Out of Darkness & Into the Light |EP259

[00:00:00] All men are created equal, but they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.

[00:00:09] By Liberty and the Beauty Club

[00:00:13] If Liberty means anything at all, it means right to tell people what they do not want here.

[00:00:30] Make America Great Again

[00:00:42] Welcome back to The Big Mig Show. I am your host Lance Miliaccio with my co-host. As you guys know, George Ballantine at my side, rise and grind working away.

[00:00:54] George, another new swag shirt I see busting out. No, that's not new.

[00:00:58] That's not new. That's not new. Just from last year.

[00:01:00] I don't know if I believe him. I want to say this to the audience. I don't always trust that he's not because he kind of wants to downplay the amount of shirts he gets.

[00:01:06] This is a Dodger original Dodger land t-shirt.

[00:01:09] I've never seen that one before.

[00:01:11] You don't pay attention to me Lance. That's what the problem is.

[00:01:13] I don't know about that, George. I'm not sure that's right.

[00:01:15] But as you guys know, we are the tip of the spear. If Liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

[00:01:21] That is our plan on this show each and every episode.

[00:01:25] We believe it's one giant Uniparty in DC, the Deep State Cabal. It's much more complicated than anybody thinks.

[00:01:31] But of course, what do they want to do? They want to hide the facts, the truth, the sauce, the evidence, the receipts, call it whatever you will.

[00:01:38] We're going to bring that to you, including the right guests tonight will be no different than other nights on this show.

[00:01:44] We are going to give you all this material.

[00:01:46] We're going to educate you and hopefully through that process, our plan, of course, you guys know is to unify the country.

[00:01:51] It doesn't matter whether you're a liberal, conservative or nonpartisan.

[00:01:55] You better pay attention because this is some nefarious shit going on in DC.

[00:01:59] And for those of you that are just assuming that you can get the right information from mainstream media,

[00:02:04] I think our guest tonight is going to tell you that that's not a possibility.

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[00:02:50] It's a monster. It's like a baby.

[00:02:52] It's not quite the size of the BeardVet energy drink that George is so enamored with.

[00:02:57] But it's big and there he is, this little bit of energy.

[00:03:00] How much of that did you have today? Let me ask that up front.

[00:03:02] I want to just find out if you're cracked out.

[00:03:04] How much did you have, George?

[00:03:06] It's classified. If I tell you, I'm going to have to kill you. Sorry.

[00:03:08] Yeah, exactly.

[00:03:10] The point is, I noticed a little bit of energy edge on him today.

[00:03:13] I think he's deep in. I'm deep into probably my eighth or nine cup of coffee for the day.

[00:03:18] So you know what that means, George? You're in trouble.

[00:03:20] Lance, I'm like this naturally first of all.

[00:03:23] So I'm actually considered bringing this to Vegas, not the whole thing, but some of it.

[00:03:29] Like a shooter, but yeah, you got to be sure you keep it under the ounce.

[00:03:32] Oh, I guess you're going to check bag. I'm not going to check bag as you have to bring equipment.

[00:03:35] Well, why are you doing all my stuff out, man?

[00:03:37] I got to talk to you afterwards. Sam has an idea that he wants to talk to us about the event.

[00:03:41] We're talking about the constitutional sheriff's event in Las Vegas.

[00:03:44] As you guys know, we're going to be streaming that event.

[00:03:47] You guys are going to get a front row seat for nine hours.

[00:03:50] Great people there. Patrick Byrne, Mike Lindell, General Mike Flynn, the Big Migs show now, Tina Peters,

[00:03:57] and many, many others. Sheriff Mack, Sheriff Darleaf, Sam Bushman from Liberty Radio,

[00:04:02] Liberty News Radio.

[00:04:04] At the end of the day, a great lineup. You're going to want to actually watch that stream.

[00:04:08] Lots of incredible information. Boone Cutler will be there. I mean, the list just goes on and on and on.

[00:04:12] It's a great event and it's going to be about nine hours long.

[00:04:16] So you'll have plenty of time to watch different pieces of it.

[00:04:19] Edge of the Knife as far as I'm concerned.

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[00:04:49] George, let's throw up the thumbnail for our guest.

[00:04:53] There he is, Mike Smith.

[00:04:56] Four-year anniversary for Out of the Shadows was yesterday.

[00:05:00] Mike Smith, I have to tell you, I had not watched the documentary before.

[00:05:03] I don't know why I hadn't, but I have watched it now.

[00:05:06] Great documentary, extremely truthful.

[00:05:09] You guys have heard us talk about Operation Paperclip and Mockingbird and many other programs.

[00:05:15] You know when it comes to the intelligence community, George and I have been fortunate enough

[00:05:18] because of my background to be tied into a lot of people that other people don't have access to.

[00:05:22] And to the day he's come out with a new documentary into the light.

[00:05:25] This guy's got a super interesting background.

[00:05:28] You want to come back on a picture?

[00:05:31] Oh yeah, I probably should do that.

[00:05:32] If you don't want to leave the skull up, maybe people would rather see the skull than my ugly mouth.

[00:05:35] Probably you're right.

[00:05:37] At the end of the day, that might be true.

[00:05:40] So I didn't know Mike Smith when I first started down this semi-rabbit hole with him.

[00:05:44] I didn't realize he was a stuntman.

[00:05:46] He worked on so many incredible movies.

[00:05:48] That is a tough ass job.

[00:05:49] Years ago, I was working on the set of Die Hard and people felt that my look was similar enough

[00:05:55] to the lead actor without even saying who he is.

[00:05:58] You guys know who he is.

[00:05:59] At the end of the day, they wanted me to do stunt work.

[00:06:02] I passed on it because I didn't want to get the crap beaten out of me.

[00:06:05] I had a martial arts background that sounds similar to Mike.

[00:06:08] I'd done a lot of MMA and other stuff.

[00:06:10] But I got to tell you, based on seeing his stunts,

[00:06:13] I don't think I could have done the majority of the stunts that I saw him in.

[00:06:18] Pretty incredible.

[00:06:19] So you guys have to know that out of the shadows as of yesterday

[00:06:22] has had over 100 million people worldwide watching.

[00:06:27] So that's shedding a lot of light on manipulation of the media and child trafficking.

[00:06:34] He's become a champion in the fight against media censorship, which I'm not surprised.

[00:06:39] I don't believe that when he went down that rabbit hole that he expected to see what he saw.

[00:06:44] I think I probably converted him.

[00:06:46] As you guys know on this show, it's God, country, and family.

[00:06:49] And when God opens your eyes up to something, sometimes you just have to shake your head.

[00:06:53] As a government contractor, there were things that I saw that I knew I couldn't participate in any longer.

[00:06:58] Kind of changed my life at that part, that and getting shot three times in the Middle East and left behind didn't help.

[00:07:04] So here we go.

[00:07:05] So listen, so this, the new movie into light took him three years to produce.

[00:07:09] He just released it in August 2023.

[00:07:12] You're going to want to watch it.

[00:07:14] I can tell you the quality of the first movie obviously is great.

[00:07:17] He grew up in Houston.

[00:07:19] He was a multi-sport athlete and I got to tell you it's very obvious from his stunts that he was a hell of an athlete.

[00:07:25] Martial arts, horseback riding, motocross, driving stunts.

[00:07:29] I saw some cars flipping that he walked away with after aerial flips of three, four times.

[00:07:35] I don't know what movie it was from.

[00:07:37] He did high diving, which I watched one of his dives.

[00:07:40] Pretty amazing.

[00:07:41] Looked at Olympic quality.

[00:07:42] He did it at Magic Mountain and MGM.

[00:07:44] He worked on movie sets, doing action stunts in Hollywood.

[00:07:47] It looks like there was only maybe one guy that's even comparable.

[00:07:50] So he did stunts for Mel Gibson, Ethan Hawke, Christian Bale, David Dacovani, Dacovani, Dachovani.

[00:07:57] I don't know how to pronounce it.

[00:07:58] I'm doing that very well with that.

[00:08:00] He's been James Bond, Batman.

[00:08:02] Yeah, James Bond and Batman as many other iconic titles.

[00:08:07] So obviously in the stunt world he was a big deal.

[00:08:11] Now I've got to tell you he had a catastrophic injury at one point that he thought he would never walk from.

[00:08:16] Lower back injury, which I can tell you is probably the worst injury you can get.

[00:08:20] Paralysis is one of the things you have to be warned about.

[00:08:23] I don't know what happened after that.

[00:08:25] We're going to ask him.

[00:08:26] I only saw it up there, but it shattered his spine.

[00:08:28] This is in 2014 and he was paralyzed from the waist down while working on this movie set.

[00:08:33] It was a stunt that was pretty innocuous.

[00:08:35] It wasn't one of his worst stunts.

[00:08:37] It was more something that he'd done many, many times previously.

[00:08:41] So out of the shadows lifts the mask on mainstream media.

[00:08:45] I don't really need to describe either one of these movies.

[00:08:48] I want to bring Mike in to do that because I don't want to leave him in the green room any longer.

[00:08:51] George, you want to bring him in?

[00:08:52] I will, but you were saying because you never heard of him because he's a stuntman,

[00:08:57] but he's the unknown guy.

[00:09:01] You know the fall guy?

[00:09:02] I'm the unknown stuntman from the fall guy.

[00:09:04] At the end of the day, the stuntman is the unknown star of the movie.

[00:09:07] Over and over again, you see the stunts.

[00:09:09] You think it's the celebrity and in fact it's somebody whose name you didn't pay attention to.

[00:09:14] They never get the credit.

[00:09:15] Listen, before I bring him on, we got some Aussie patriots in the house tonight.

[00:09:19] New Aussie Patriots.

[00:09:21] From Australia?

[00:09:22] Yes.

[00:09:23] Hello, Mike.

[00:09:24] Let's bring him on.

[00:09:25] Welcome to the Big Make Show, Mr. Mike Smith.

[00:09:27] How are you doing, sir?

[00:09:29] Mike, you're muted.

[00:09:31] Oh, he's muted.

[00:09:33] That's what a professional does.

[00:09:35] I got it.

[00:09:36] Thank you.

[00:09:37] It's all good, Mike.

[00:09:39] Listen, kind of crazy.

[00:09:41] Your history in the movie business is unbelievable.

[00:09:46] You know, and when I looked at the documentary, very well done.

[00:09:49] Obviously you had a lot of experience in front of the camera,

[00:09:52] but it looks to me like you had it just as much experience behind the camera.

[00:09:56] But before we go into the documentaries, I got to ask you,

[00:09:59] you were in Hollywood for how long?

[00:10:02] Well, I'm 30 years, about 30 years.

[00:10:05] 20 working multiple different jobs, but 30 years altogether.

[00:10:10] How many credits do you have on movies?

[00:10:13] Just curious.

[00:10:14] I didn't look at your IMDB for obvious enough reasons.

[00:10:17] I didn't jump in there.

[00:10:18] There's probably two, three, 400 down there.

[00:10:20] Wow.

[00:10:21] And I don't really keep track of that.

[00:10:25] After a while, it just became a job and I would monitor it every now and then.

[00:10:30] But mainly, you know, I've worked on hundreds of television shows and feature films.

[00:10:36] And, you know, so many, I don't even remember some of them anymore.

[00:10:40] I never thought when I started, I would be saying something like that

[00:10:44] because I was so excited to get one job and throughout my career,

[00:10:48] it kind of snowballed and just became a day-to-day what show up.

[00:10:52] What am I doing today?

[00:10:53] And we told whatever we're going to do.

[00:10:57] We're going to flip this car.

[00:10:58] We're going to do this fight or we're going to do a shootout

[00:11:01] or we're going to fall down the stairs, get hit by a car.

[00:11:05] I mean, whatever.

[00:11:07] So you were doing stunts.

[00:11:08] You were doing the fight coordination.

[00:11:10] You were doing obviously stunt choreography.

[00:11:13] It looks like you just kept moving up and getting higher levels of obligation on these movies.

[00:11:18] You know, I got to ask this.

[00:11:20] So when did you decide to do this documentary?

[00:11:23] But had you previously been the kind of guy that, and again, I'm going to use a term that they obviously like to call all of us.

[00:11:29] They call all of us conspiracy theorists.

[00:11:31] They call all of us MAGA or Christian nationalists or whatever they can do to try to pigeonhole us.

[00:11:37] We know that's all part of the strategy.

[00:11:39] That's how they use the DC narrative and they propel it into mainstream media.

[00:11:44] And then they use the paid bots, shills, social media influencers online that they've met with,

[00:11:49] whether it was on TikTok or Facebook, you know all about it.

[00:11:52] I don't even need to educate you.

[00:11:53] I'm doing that more for the audience that maybe hasn't watched our show.

[00:11:56] Hey Lance, real quick, I just want to cut the stream.

[00:11:58] So I just want to let everybody know I'm shutting all the streams down except for rumble and locos.

[00:12:02] So if you want to continue watching this great interview, come to Rumbles or Locos.

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[00:12:11] Good, Lance.

[00:12:12] So anyway, Mike, so were you like this before or were you just so focused on your work?

[00:12:17] You didn't think about anything else.

[00:12:18] You were thinking about the money.

[00:12:19] You were thinking about the job.

[00:12:20] You were thinking about your career.

[00:12:22] Did you go down any of these rabbit holes previously?

[00:12:24] Because I would have to believe you heard some of it on set or you heard it even in the line of work you were in.

[00:12:31] I am the furthest person from political politics or any of the things that you were involved with now.

[00:12:39] I didn't even care to vote very much because at most of my time, I was too busy working.

[00:12:47] I was too busy doing my job or doing what it was I was focused on and to be quite frank,

[00:12:54] I never believed that it mattered because I don't know anything about aliens.

[00:13:01] I don't know anything about the JFK assassination.

[00:13:03] I don't know really, I mean, I hear things about 9-11.

[00:13:07] There's lots of things to look at.

[00:13:09] I don't know anything about that.

[00:13:11] I don't know anything about Bigfoot.

[00:13:13] But like I said in our shout-outs, I do know about Hollywood and I do know how things are done

[00:13:21] and how things are made.

[00:13:23] And I try to say this to people when they go, wow, how did you know all that?

[00:13:28] And I said, well, it's not that I'm smart.

[00:13:30] It's just that I had a different perspective.

[00:13:33] You know, like we had a...

[00:13:35] Like most people don't have the perspective behind the scenes that someone like me gets

[00:13:39] because as a stuntman, you do a job.

[00:13:44] You do something dangerous or you do whatever your job is for the day.

[00:13:48] As a fight coordinator, you get some creative input to how the fights go.

[00:13:52] As a stunt coordinator, you get some creative input to how the stunts go.

[00:13:57] And then as an action director, you get some creative input to how the action shot.

[00:14:01] But again, there's always somebody in charge of the narrative.

[00:14:05] There's always somebody in charge of the story.

[00:14:10] And so as I...

[00:14:13] Well, you said it in your intro.

[00:14:16] When I got hurt, it changed my life because what it did was

[00:14:21] it put me in a bed and the person that I believed I was

[00:14:26] or I used to be the athlete I once was, was gone.

[00:14:30] So that ended my stunt career.

[00:14:33] But what people don't know is I was really mainly just directing

[00:14:38] and writing at that point in my career.

[00:14:42] So it really didn't...

[00:14:44] Me breaking my back and becoming paralyzed,

[00:14:47] it affected me to some degree as a stunt performer,

[00:14:52] but I was kind of already past that.

[00:14:55] So when I saw the things that I saw in the...

[00:15:01] Over a 30-year period, you hear a lot of conversations.

[00:15:05] You see a lot of situations.

[00:15:07] You have a lot of perspective that most people don't get.

[00:15:11] And it was until I really got up the ladder

[00:15:16] to where you're in the writing world

[00:15:18] or the producing world or the directing world,

[00:15:20] where you can see how those narratives are manipulated

[00:15:24] and what's greenlit and what's not greenlit

[00:15:27] and who's got an agenda and who doesn't have an agenda.

[00:15:30] And these stories and messaging from Hollywood

[00:15:34] can be used for good or bad.

[00:15:36] It just depends on who's pushing the narrative out.

[00:15:40] So, yeah, I wasn't into any of this kind of stuff.

[00:15:44] It's interesting because you obviously went down this rabbit hole

[00:15:48] without that.

[00:15:49] The reason I asked that question

[00:15:50] is because obviously for the people like us,

[00:15:52] I had a little bit of experience doing some acting years ago,

[00:15:55] but all minor roles, usually a bad guy or a military guy

[00:15:59] had a particular look.

[00:16:00] No more than ever 14 lines.

[00:16:02] So really DEF kind of quality acting, not anything special.

[00:16:07] At the end of the day, one of the big stories

[00:16:10] that circulates out there is obviously the Weinstein story,

[00:16:13] the Epstein story and now the P. Diddy story.

[00:16:17] We obviously have seen a lot of content, a lot of material,

[00:16:22] some of it on the dark web, some of it otherwise

[00:16:24] that proves the validity of a lot of the stories

[00:16:27] when it comes to trafficking

[00:16:29] and it comes to the celebrities that have been involved.

[00:16:31] Of course you can't really name them at this point

[00:16:33] because the US government is doing its best to cover it up.

[00:16:36] Did you ever, I'm sure there was a lot obviously,

[00:16:40] closing parties and all kinds of events

[00:16:42] that are related to big red carpet.

[00:16:45] Did any of the stories about Weinstein come past you

[00:16:48] that you ever heard about or you heard a story from somebody

[00:16:51] that was at a Weinstein event

[00:16:53] or how Harvey was about the way he operated in Hollywood

[00:16:56] or did you hear anything about Epstein or those any things?

[00:16:59] That's kind of off track.

[00:17:00] We'll get to the movies in a minute.

[00:17:01] I just was curious if any of that had come across your radar.

[00:17:04] Well, I mean, look, I specifically know, but I mean,

[00:17:09] but there, let me just say this,

[00:17:11] the culture of the casting couch,

[00:17:14] that's a culture that everybody that goes to Hollywood

[00:17:18] hears or experiences to some degree or some level.

[00:17:21] So when you hear crazy stories from people,

[00:17:25] it's not that you're not shocked.

[00:17:29] It's not like you're like, oh, that's so crazy.

[00:17:31] Because if you're in Hollywood,

[00:17:33] you hear all kinds of rumors and there's all kinds of people.

[00:17:39] There's good ones and there's bad ones.

[00:17:41] Yeah.

[00:17:42] So you don't know who's who.

[00:17:44] And I've definitely heard stories about certain people

[00:17:49] like that, but they're all conjecture.

[00:17:52] I mean, what is that?

[00:17:54] I mean, it's okay.

[00:17:55] Well, it could be true or it couldn't be true,

[00:17:57] but yeah, I'll never be able to prove it.

[00:17:59] But do I believe it more than likely?

[00:18:01] It's probably true.

[00:18:02] Mike, I want to know.

[00:18:04] So you were saying like you weren't into politics,

[00:18:07] you know, none of that stuff,

[00:18:08] but I'm going to bet that someone watching out of the shadows

[00:18:12] and you were actually making it and filming it,

[00:18:15] is going to put you into politics.

[00:18:17] I had to like, it's a movie that's actually going to wake people up

[00:18:20] and actually see what's really going on.

[00:18:23] I tried not to take a side of a political spectrum.

[00:18:27] I didn't try to say, hey, you know, I'm this way.

[00:18:31] Think like I do.

[00:18:32] I'm saying, hey, here's some things you may not know about.

[00:18:35] There's there's that operation mockingbird was a real thing.

[00:18:40] Yes.

[00:18:41] Creation paperclip, the real thing.

[00:18:43] MK Ultra is a real thing.

[00:18:45] Human trafficking is a real thing.

[00:18:48] Satanic ritual abuse is a real thing.

[00:18:51] I'm here as a filmmaker.

[00:18:53] My perspective is let me educate you on some things that you may

[00:18:57] not know and let you pray about it discern over it.

[00:19:01] Exactly.

[00:19:02] Exactly.

[00:19:03] So there's it's for me, I look at it's not so much you picking

[00:19:08] a political side because they're both complicit in what's going

[00:19:11] on.

[00:19:12] There is no discrimination.

[00:19:14] There's both from both sides that are involved in these on the

[00:19:16] various acts.

[00:19:18] Well, yeah.

[00:19:19] Well, like in an end of the light we touch on it and I and I

[00:19:23] start off in the beginning of the movie and I'd say, look, I

[00:19:25] don't care what what color your skin is.

[00:19:28] I don't care what religion you are.

[00:19:30] I don't care how you identify.

[00:19:32] We all believe things to be true that aren't because of the

[00:19:35] way we've received our stories over the years.

[00:19:38] So it's our job in order to fight that in order to be

[00:19:42] able to begin to fight that it's like Sun Tzu's art of war.

[00:19:46] You have to know your enemy and when you're in a fight and you

[00:19:49] don't realize you're in a fight, you're never going to win.

[00:19:53] But once you lift the veil back and you see the guy behind

[00:19:59] the curtain pulling the puppet string, you can then make

[00:20:03] it's like a magician.

[00:20:04] You know when you see how a sleight of hand trick is done,

[00:20:07] you're never fooled by that again because you've seen

[00:20:10] it.

[00:20:11] So that's correct.

[00:20:13] So into the light I was, I wanted to show people, look,

[00:20:17] I'm going to show you how you get manipulated, why you

[00:20:21] get manipulated and who's manipulating you.

[00:20:24] And then you can, you can make a decision on what you

[00:20:27] absorb and what you begin to believe.

[00:20:30] So, you know, that's, that's the position I always try

[00:20:34] to take.

[00:20:35] I'm not here, you know, like I'm a Christian.

[00:20:37] I wish everybody Christian, but that's not my job.

[00:20:41] My job is to say, let me show you some information and

[00:20:45] let, let, let, let, you know, let your, yourself and

[00:20:49] your own discernment skills, you know, determine what

[00:20:52] it is you want to focus on or not.

[00:20:55] Yeah.

[00:20:56] I think, I think you've nailed it.

[00:20:57] You know, have you read, I saw you had Mike Flynn,

[00:21:00] Mike Flynn's a friend of ours, General Mike Flynn

[00:21:02] is a friend of George and I's and I saw you had him

[00:21:04] in the film, obviously.

[00:21:06] Did have you read his new books, 5GW?

[00:21:10] Yes, of course.

[00:21:11] Yeah.

[00:21:12] Well, I mean, I'm also on the board of directors of

[00:21:17] America's Future with Joel Flynn.

[00:21:19] Oh, I didn't know that.

[00:21:20] That's great.

[00:21:21] He's a great guy.

[00:21:22] We love him.

[00:21:23] Obviously we're going to see him out in Vegas here in

[00:21:25] another couple of days.

[00:21:26] I was just at his movie premiere last night here in

[00:21:28] Nashville.

[00:21:29] Oh, that's great.

[00:21:30] Our, our, our George's personal, who was there?

[00:21:33] Was it Eric?

[00:21:34] Was there?

[00:21:35] Who was there?

[00:21:36] Kyle Comforti from Sea of Mud was there.

[00:21:39] Mandy from X was there that I know of.

[00:21:43] Yeah.

[00:21:44] I know.

[00:21:45] How do you like the new documentary?

[00:21:47] I loved it.

[00:21:48] I thought it was great.

[00:21:49] I thought, I think for the people, it was interesting

[00:21:52] because I have one daughter that follows this stuff

[00:21:54] and I have one daughter that thinks things were all

[00:21:57] crazy.

[00:21:58] So it was interesting because the one that's not

[00:22:03] really into this stuff, he saw the movie and she

[00:22:06] walked out and she was like, man, that was really good.

[00:22:10] And I was like, you liked it.

[00:22:12] And she's like, yeah, I explained a whole lot of stuff

[00:22:15] that, that, that I did not know.

[00:22:18] So I think for Gerald Flynn and some of the people

[00:22:21] out there, I think, I think this movie is going to

[00:22:24] explain a lot of things to people that are his

[00:22:27] haters.

[00:22:28] Like everybody loves to hate Gerald Flynn.

[00:22:30] Everybody loves to pick on him.

[00:22:32] But let me tell you something.

[00:22:33] The man's a hero.

[00:22:34] He stood up and he did things for him.

[00:22:37] And he's a great man.

[00:22:39] His family and him have been through a lot of really

[00:22:41] bad, bad things.

[00:22:43] And you know what?

[00:22:44] In just like Trump, just like people like me and other

[00:22:47] people that have given up things to try to tell the

[00:22:52] truth, that does come at a cost.

[00:22:54] It comes at a sacrifice.

[00:22:56] There's no doubt.

[00:22:57] And General Flynn was $8 million in a hole from,

[00:23:00] you know, the government going after him, law

[00:23:02] fair, taking his house, threatening his son, you know,

[00:23:05] $8 million.

[00:23:06] People forget that.

[00:23:08] They don't see that part.

[00:23:09] George Stone and I often talk and what George just

[00:23:12] said, honestly, I have a picture of Mike when he

[00:23:15] was a child and he, he was getting an award for

[00:23:18] saving another child from drowning.

[00:23:20] And I, I haven't lived my life like that always.

[00:23:23] I've been a selfish guy, a vain guy.

[00:23:25] At the end of the day, I haven't always been the

[00:23:26] good, the good, the guy I am now.

[00:23:28] I try to go out of my way to be a better person,

[00:23:30] but I haven't always been a good guy.

[00:23:32] At the end of the day, Mike Flynn in my opinion is

[00:23:34] a better man than I will ever be.

[00:23:36] And I strive in a way to be as good a human being

[00:23:39] is.

[00:23:40] So I see him get attacked.

[00:23:41] I see Roger Stone get attacked obviously and you

[00:23:43] can't be new to that when you're over the target

[00:23:46] like you just did in Out of the Shadows and I'm

[00:23:49] sure that the new movie is just as compelling.

[00:23:52] Tell me about that.

[00:23:53] So what brought you down that road?

[00:23:55] You decided to go down this road.

[00:23:56] I have to believe they started coming after you

[00:23:58] and started covering the topics you were covering.

[00:24:01] And the deeper you got, I'm sure the worse it got.

[00:24:04] But tell me about the experience.

[00:24:06] What brought you to that path?

[00:24:07] Why did you go down it?

[00:24:09] And how rough was it on you and your family?

[00:24:11] I'm going to tell you this and I give all of this

[00:24:14] to God honestly because had I not had Christ

[00:24:19] in my life or like again, I'm a flawed guy.

[00:24:23] I'm not a pastor.

[00:24:25] I'm not a prophet.

[00:24:26] I'm a priest.

[00:24:27] I'm a dude that likes to have a drink every now and then.

[00:24:31] I'll still cuss and definitely punch you in the face.

[00:24:34] But I'm not a perfect man.

[00:24:37] I'm just a guy that believes, look,

[00:24:39] when you realize there is a fight and you have

[00:24:42] to pick a side, you have to decide

[00:24:45] which side you're going to serve.

[00:24:46] And I believe that Judeo-Christian fundamentals

[00:24:49] that this nation was founded upon,

[00:24:51] this republic was founded upon.

[00:24:54] And so I made a choice to make a decision

[00:25:00] to walk away because I didn't want to serve that anymore.

[00:25:03] I was like, look, I would rather do nothing

[00:25:07] than continue to do serve this.

[00:25:09] Yes, the money was good.

[00:25:11] Yes, I had a nice life.

[00:25:13] Yes, I could have lived a very comfortable life.

[00:25:16] Look at Trump.

[00:25:17] He could have lived a very comfortable life.

[00:25:19] Look at Flynn.

[00:25:20] He could have done things that were easy for him.

[00:25:24] But that's not what this nation was founded upon.

[00:25:26] This nation was founded upon people

[00:25:28] that believed in freedom and were willing to sacrifice

[00:25:32] for others.

[00:25:33] And that's really what made me...

[00:25:38] I give all the credit back to God

[00:25:41] for giving me the courage to do it.

[00:25:43] And then I give the credit to those

[00:25:45] that were around me on my team.

[00:25:47] Because that guy Brad, who's the other step-man

[00:25:50] in and out of Shadows, believed me to get to the level

[00:25:53] that Brad and I were at when we walked away.

[00:25:56] Most people will probably never understand

[00:25:59] how competitive the stunt work really is

[00:26:02] to get to that level, how high it is.

[00:26:05] So that's why I did what I did.

[00:26:09] Yeah.

[00:26:10] Well, at the end of the day,

[00:26:12] I do know how competitive it is.

[00:26:14] I observed it as a minor role person,

[00:26:17] but I saw the stuntman and otherwise.

[00:26:19] I saw that there was always somebody willing to take a spot.

[00:26:22] It didn't matter what role you're in in Hollywood.

[00:26:24] There's always somebody that's willing to bend a knee,

[00:26:27] compromise for less money,

[00:26:29] to undercut whoever it is.

[00:26:31] Of course, at your level of skill, that wouldn't be easy to do.

[00:26:34] So listen, Big MacMaffey, a subscribers, listeners,

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[00:26:37] When we come back, we're going to dig into

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[00:26:40] Let's find out what made Mike Smith

[00:26:42] go down this rabbit hole.

[00:26:44] And we've got the trailer coming up too for In the Shadows.

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[00:30:12] Screw the corporations. They don't deserve it.

[00:30:14] They don't look out for us. Only the little guy does.

[00:30:16] So we got to look out for the little guy.

[00:30:18] So we got, you know, we're talking about

[00:30:20] government programs. Talking about operation,

[00:30:22] paperclip, MKUltra, operation Mockenberg.

[00:30:24] These are all real

[00:30:26] top secret programs

[00:30:28] operated by CIA

[00:30:30] probably other intel agencies

[00:30:32] where they operate

[00:30:34] with impunity.

[00:30:36] If nothing happens, there's no

[00:30:38] consequences that are going to keep doing it.

[00:30:40] So if you don't think they're still doing it today,

[00:30:42] you're sorely mistaken because there are

[00:30:44] programs that they're still doing today

[00:30:46] and sooner or later we'll find out more

[00:30:48] what's going on but you know they're still

[00:30:50] controlling the media. They're still

[00:30:52] controlling Hollywood. You know they send

[00:30:54] out the messages like Mike was in

[00:30:56] the documentary.

[00:30:58] Certain messages you see

[00:31:00] you always see symbolism.

[00:31:02] You see the commercials always with

[00:31:06] pictures of the devil, the signs.

[00:31:08] It's always the same people

[00:31:10] Hollywood elites and it's like in

[00:31:12] tears like you said in documentary

[00:31:14] like if you're in an upper

[00:31:16] on-chelan tier

[00:31:18] of actors or musicians

[00:31:20] you know you get more exposure

[00:31:22] like I was you know it's

[00:31:24] amazing how you watch some of these actresses

[00:31:26] or even singers where all of a sudden

[00:31:28] they're banged into stardom

[00:31:30] because of you know

[00:31:32] legendary legions to the devil.

[00:31:34] And often it's not because they're all that skilled

[00:31:36] it's pretty interesting. It's also

[00:31:38] interesting when you see the lineups and the

[00:31:40] guest lists that have been leaked from like

[00:31:42] Bohemian Grove George. That's one of the ones

[00:31:44] a lot of celebrities have gone through.

[00:31:46] If you look in there I believe it was Katie Perry

[00:31:48] she was used to saying what gospel music or something

[00:31:50] Mike that's true and she

[00:31:52] she wasn't nobody like

[00:31:54] nobody even knew her

[00:31:56] and then she came to Hollywood and they're like

[00:31:58] you want to be bae you're gonna do this

[00:32:00] this and that for us and look at her now

[00:32:02] and it's amazing

[00:32:04] if you look at the amount of followers they have

[00:32:06] on social media how much they actually can

[00:32:08] control can control with the message

[00:32:10] a lot of influence power and influence

[00:32:12] crazy

[00:32:14] take us down this process

[00:32:16] that you maybe you started thinking

[00:32:18] because of the injury and you were heading in a different

[00:32:20] direction or whatever you were doing what made you

[00:32:22] start to go down this

[00:32:24] and I call it a rabbit hole because that's what

[00:32:26] everybody online refers to it is

[00:32:28] but this is obviously kind of a dark place

[00:32:30] you went to because the content

[00:32:32] starts getting tougher and tougher I assume

[00:32:34] go ahead and take us through that process

[00:32:36] on out of the shadows

[00:32:38] well in the out of the shadows if you watch the movie

[00:32:40] and I'll try to make this as quick

[00:32:42] as I can but yeah my

[00:32:44] therapist was

[00:32:46] like I said earlier I was

[00:32:48] like I would say to you

[00:32:50] Mike are you a Christian I would say yeah I'm a Christian

[00:32:52] but I didn't

[00:32:54] I really didn't believe

[00:32:56] I mean I would I mean if I

[00:32:58] who wrote this how do I know you know blah blah blah

[00:33:00] and I was never

[00:33:02] like a real believer

[00:33:04] and one day she

[00:33:06] doing her therapy on me

[00:33:08] stopped me and she said hey I

[00:33:10] I feel like I need to pray for you

[00:33:12] and honestly

[00:33:14] that's when it started it was like

[00:33:16] she goes can I pray for you

[00:33:18] well she goes

[00:33:20] and I you know

[00:33:22] I'd let her do it for a few months

[00:33:24] and I let her pray and it was just like okay

[00:33:26] whatever thanks

[00:33:28] and then one day I stopped there and like I said

[00:33:30] in the movie and I said hey

[00:33:32] you realize I think you're out of your mind

[00:33:34] because I don't believe in any of this stuff

[00:33:36] and she said what do you

[00:33:38] don't believe in I said this

[00:33:40] devil in the spiritual world and all this stuff

[00:33:42] and she said Mike you know

[00:33:44] let me ask you something what do you know about

[00:33:46] satanic ritual abuse

[00:33:48] and what do you know about the occult

[00:33:50] and I said I don't want to do this

[00:33:52] and I'm like nothing I don't want to

[00:33:54] bite that into my life

[00:33:56] she goes well look

[00:33:58] let me tell you something I'm a pelvic floor

[00:34:00] therapist I treat the victims

[00:34:02] of these things

[00:34:04] after they come through

[00:34:06] after they've been

[00:34:08] what do you call it

[00:34:10] taken care of going to the hospital

[00:34:12] sexualized

[00:34:14] groomed

[00:34:16] she goes well who do you think

[00:34:18] you're going to be taking back together

[00:34:20] after it's over

[00:34:22] she goes I do

[00:34:24] it's completely real and you need to look into it

[00:34:26] and I said something just like that in the movie

[00:34:28] but I was like

[00:34:30] what is she talking about

[00:34:32] and then so I said well

[00:34:34] maybe I should look into this stuff

[00:34:36] so I started just kind of

[00:34:38] online surfing looking at different things

[00:34:40] looking at different

[00:34:42] what is this what is that

[00:34:44] and then I would start seeing things

[00:34:46] I'm hearing things

[00:34:48] reading things and I'm going

[00:34:50] I've seen that before

[00:34:52] and I've seen that before

[00:34:54] I'd see just objects

[00:34:56] and things in people's houses

[00:34:58] over the years and I'm like

[00:35:00] it can't be a coincidence

[00:35:02] there's got to be something to it

[00:35:04] and so as I got deeper and deeper

[00:35:06] then it was like

[00:35:08] God

[00:35:10] I ripped the veil off and I could see

[00:35:12] that there was a group

[00:35:14] of people surrounding people that I knew

[00:35:16] that were into dark

[00:35:18] dark stuff and they were

[00:35:20] or it's hidein' it

[00:35:22] they hid it from me I mean

[00:35:24] so my best friends were in it and I didn't know

[00:35:26] you know I mean I did not know

[00:35:28] and then

[00:35:30] so then you're like well

[00:35:32] I don't want to be around these people

[00:35:34] you know I don't want to do this anymore

[00:35:36] I'm like this is what this is

[00:35:38] and to make it higher up

[00:35:40] and move up the ladder more

[00:35:42] I got to you know go hang out with these people

[00:35:44] and I don't like really any of these people to begin with

[00:35:46] why would I do that

[00:35:48] so

[00:35:50] that was really it started

[00:35:52] that way and it was just

[00:35:54] it was really because of God coming into my life

[00:35:56] and I could see it

[00:35:58] for the first time you know

[00:36:00] and that was I was like well

[00:36:02] I'm not going to be a part of this

[00:36:04] so I'm going to do the best I can

[00:36:06] tell the truth or at least show people

[00:36:08] that you know there is evil

[00:36:10] out there and there are people that are willing

[00:36:12] to hurt children and there are people

[00:36:14] out there hurting children doing bad things

[00:36:16] and I don't care what side of the aisle

[00:36:18] you're on that should unite all of us

[00:36:22] yeah you know when you look

[00:36:24] at this kind of material

[00:36:26] I have a difficult time for it because I have

[00:36:28] some anger issues of my

[00:36:30] own that I always try to keep myself obviously

[00:36:32] so my history is

[00:36:34] a government contractor

[00:36:36] I tend to be drawn to that right

[00:36:38] but child traffic is one of those things

[00:36:40] that makes me extremely angry I don't like

[00:36:42] pedophilia especially I don't like the fact

[00:36:44] that they want to call themselves minor

[00:36:46] attracted persons now

[00:36:48] at the end of the day those people are unfixable

[00:36:50] in my book I don't know how you could be attracted

[00:36:52] to a child at the end

[00:36:54] of the day so

[00:36:56] so for me it's difficult right so I

[00:36:58] George is pretty good at handling it I have

[00:37:00] to kind of veer myself and sometimes

[00:37:02] as much as I know it's real and as much

[00:37:04] as I interact with people to tell me about it

[00:37:06] I have to keep a certain layer because

[00:37:08] you know the minute I start to think about those

[00:37:10] people my thing is you know as you're

[00:37:12] shooting this movie right and you're finding out

[00:37:14] stuff that I'm sure you have absolutely never heard

[00:37:16] before and when we all hear it the first

[00:37:18] time we all go ah come on

[00:37:20] that's got to be a bunch of BS you're

[00:37:22] freaking kidding me there's no freaking way

[00:37:24] that's legit you're telling me they do

[00:37:26] what at Bohemian Grove you're telling me

[00:37:28] they were doing this Epstein Island thing

[00:37:30] what at the parties they go down and

[00:37:32] they're sacrificed now come on man

[00:37:34] where'd you get this in the beginning that's how

[00:37:36] I acted right you had

[00:37:38] to have some dark moments as you were shooting

[00:37:40] or even some like total shock

[00:37:42] moments what were some of the worst moments

[00:37:44] for you for you and

[00:37:46] then what was some of the biggest attacks

[00:37:48] on you as you started

[00:37:50] as people started to be aware of what you were getting

[00:37:52] ready to uncover and expose

[00:37:54] what was some of the worst of the worst

[00:37:56] um well

[00:37:58] the big

[00:38:00] probably the biggest attacks came from

[00:38:02] me covering pizza gate with Liz Croken

[00:38:04] yeah because

[00:38:06] pizza gate was like you gotta remember this movie

[00:38:08] was

[00:38:10] the movie yesterday was a four year anniversary

[00:38:12] that I shot as it was released

[00:38:14] we started making that movie

[00:38:16] two years before that

[00:38:18] and I didn't really know this I never

[00:38:20] matter

[00:38:22] but I was looking you know as a filmmaker

[00:38:24] my job is people are like oh they want to label me

[00:38:26] a conspiracy theorist okay

[00:38:28] I'm a filmmaker looking into things does that make me

[00:38:30] a conspiracy theorist I don't know

[00:38:32] call me what you want I don't care

[00:38:34] but I'm trying to do

[00:38:36] is my job

[00:38:38] and so when I started looking

[00:38:40] into pizza gate I'm like is this real

[00:38:42] like why do they call it pizza gate I have no idea

[00:38:44] and then

[00:38:46] I start looking into it

[00:38:48] and it's you know and I did

[00:38:50] I thought I did a pretty fair job about saying is it

[00:38:52] factors at fiction just take a look

[00:38:54] at it and you guys decide for yourselves

[00:38:56] well when I started researching

[00:38:58] the things that Liz was actually saying

[00:39:00] because

[00:39:02] that's the one thing about out of shadows is

[00:39:04] you can attack me

[00:39:06] you can attack the messenger but you can't attack

[00:39:08] the validity

[00:39:10] of the topics and the truth

[00:39:12] in that film because

[00:39:14] whether you like it or not I mean there's

[00:39:16] some things that you could say okay that's a little bit of a stretch

[00:39:18] to make that jump

[00:39:20] but if you go look at

[00:39:22] you know the FBI has validated

[00:39:24] that pizza and all these words

[00:39:26] that are you know quote unquote pizza

[00:39:28] gate stuff it has been validated

[00:39:30] as FBI code words

[00:39:32] yeah

[00:39:34] yeah 100% you have

[00:39:36] common pizza you have pizza

[00:39:38] you have cheese you have hot dogs

[00:39:40] and then of course obviously

[00:39:42] we have all the insignias we know about the

[00:39:44] Obama event of ordering

[00:39:46] $60,000 of alleged hot dogs

[00:39:48] and then of course the

[00:39:50] Podesta brothers we've seen

[00:39:52] emails Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin

[00:39:54] lots of questions because

[00:39:56] when you start talking about bring my favorite toy

[00:39:58] my hammer, my this

[00:40:00] a lot of these emails that were leaked

[00:40:02] that have been proven to be legitimate but yet

[00:40:04] no accountability and no consequences

[00:40:06] so you're going down the dark moments

[00:40:08] did you get any like obviously

[00:40:10] some of the people we know that Hillary Clinton

[00:40:12] as an example 57

[00:40:14] suicides for people

[00:40:16] related to her that have been connected

[00:40:18] seems unlikely that any one person

[00:40:20] could have 57 people around them that committed suicide

[00:40:22] did you have anybody start trying to

[00:40:24] nudge, nudge threaten

[00:40:26] you advise you

[00:40:28] lots of course

[00:40:30] but here's the thing I'm not afraid

[00:40:32] to die for that

[00:40:34] I'm a stuntman like I'm not

[00:40:36] I'm not crazy but

[00:40:38] you know look I don't fear death

[00:40:40] like I we're all going to die

[00:40:42] well to me

[00:40:44] I don't want to die I'm not trying

[00:40:46] to die but when people threaten me with that

[00:40:48] that's not that doesn't

[00:40:50] my trigger points like that's not

[00:40:52] you know and I had

[00:40:54] I had a couple people call me up

[00:40:56] while I was still in Hollywood saying

[00:40:58] they're going to kill you

[00:41:00] were there people you knew or were they anonymous calls

[00:41:02] no there are people I knew

[00:41:04] okay not say they weren't saying

[00:41:06] they were going to kill me they said yeah

[00:41:08] we're going to come get you

[00:41:10] you should have never done that and I'm like well

[00:41:12] you know what if I didn't do it who was going to do it

[00:41:14] because there's a lot of people that know

[00:41:16] you know similar stuff but none of them

[00:41:18] you know here I get this a lot still

[00:41:20] even today and I really

[00:41:22] respect what you did I just

[00:41:24] I just can't quite the hand that feeds

[00:41:26] me I just got to keep making the money right

[00:41:28] now and I'm like

[00:41:30] okay well that's your

[00:41:32] conviction my convictions

[00:41:34] and I felt like

[00:41:36] look if you know

[00:41:38] you could play those allegory the cave

[00:41:40] if someone doesn't show

[00:41:42] the people that those are shadow figures

[00:41:44] and that they're

[00:41:46] being manipulated how are they going to know

[00:41:48] you know how are

[00:41:50] they going to wake up and

[00:41:52] and so I just felt like that was

[00:41:54] my contribution to the fight was

[00:41:56] look I'm a filmmaker I know how

[00:41:58] to make movies I know how to tell stories

[00:42:00] let me explain it to people

[00:42:02] and let them decide what they think about it

[00:42:04] and I had no idea

[00:42:06] that it would get it would

[00:42:08] get over 100 million views in the first

[00:42:10] 10 months we were so

[00:42:12] tracking the analytics but

[00:42:14] you got me kicked off with Twitter

[00:42:16] Facebook

[00:42:18] YouTube paypal

[00:42:20] uh

[00:42:22] TikTok and

[00:42:24] Instagram and Facebook

[00:42:26] and so I got

[00:42:28] pretty much every social media platform

[00:42:30] and I was like

[00:42:32] okay well I

[00:42:34] did the best I could you know it fights over

[00:42:36] you know what you know but now I'm back

[00:42:38] on X thank God to Elon

[00:42:40] and thank God for rumble and

[00:42:42] shows like this where we can

[00:42:44] have these shows

[00:42:46] but you know it's

[00:42:48] you know yeah I got a lot of

[00:42:50] attacks I mean you get death threats you get

[00:42:52] you know fine you know obviously

[00:42:54] it cost me my career

[00:42:56] and my agency

[00:42:58] immediately dropped me I was with for like

[00:43:00] you know 9 to 12 years I can't remember how long I was with

[00:43:02] them for quite a while

[00:43:04] and the

[00:43:06] day after I dropped the film

[00:43:08] I get dropped from my agent so

[00:43:10] you know I knew it was going to cost me a lot

[00:43:12] that's fine I'm willing to accept

[00:43:14] that I'm not looking

[00:43:16] and I gave the movie away for free by the way

[00:43:18] I made out of it I saw funded

[00:43:20] it

[00:43:22] and I gave it away for free

[00:43:24] yeah

[00:43:26] yeah you know that sacrifices unbelievable

[00:43:28] and most people wouldn't even consider

[00:43:30] it uh that's how

[00:43:32] important it is what you did

[00:43:34] I respect you for it there's no doubt I'm the same guy

[00:43:36] I'm relatively fearless

[00:43:38] to a fault and I don't fear death

[00:43:40] either it's one of those things I've been close

[00:43:42] enough enough times over the history

[00:43:44] of my life that I guess I've become

[00:43:46] kind of uh maybe numb

[00:43:48] to it in its own way I don't know that

[00:43:50] that's necessarily good but

[00:43:52] at the end of the day it's interesting because most

[00:43:54] people would never make the sacrifices

[00:43:56] you make did your own family ever try to

[00:43:58] talk you out of it when you made the first documentary

[00:44:00] uh my wife

[00:44:02] thought I'd lost my mind

[00:44:04] and my daughter thought I was crazy

[00:44:06] for the first two years

[00:44:08] yeah and when they started seeing it

[00:44:10] for I never tried to win some

[00:44:12] I never said hey you need to believe me

[00:44:14] but they started seeing

[00:44:16] it and they started you know

[00:44:18] because they lived it you know they saw

[00:44:20] they saw a lot of the same things and then they were

[00:44:22] starting to see it and you know it's been

[00:44:24] great because

[00:44:26] because now a lot of people

[00:44:28] that I mean I've had

[00:44:30] people come up to me

[00:44:32] I'm one of them which she

[00:44:34] she hated President Trump so bad

[00:44:36] in LA she was

[00:44:38] I can't believe you're doing what are you

[00:44:40] doing you know what

[00:44:42] we just aired into the light of Mar-a-Lago

[00:44:44] last weekend

[00:44:46] she was my guest and she is now

[00:44:48] with one of the biggest Trump

[00:44:50] supporters you'll ever see

[00:44:52] yeah

[00:44:54] complete 180

[00:44:56] complete 180 with God

[00:44:58] she's like I'm

[00:45:00] she's I'm so sorry you were trying

[00:45:02] to explain this to me for so long

[00:45:04] and I can't hear you

[00:45:06] and I want to stop you for a minute there

[00:45:08] to the audience and this is what I always tell you guys

[00:45:10] you know the more we get attacked the more we are

[00:45:12] over the target you know George and I'll get

[00:45:14] death threats in our DMs and

[00:45:16] we'll get all kinds of stuff and as a matter of fact

[00:45:18] we were both suspended on

[00:45:20] Twitter 1.0 with Jack Dorsey

[00:45:22] George and I had been

[00:45:24] uncovering a story called Italy Gate which was the

[00:45:26] Leonardo Spa satellite hack

[00:45:28] at the end of the day George still doesn't have his account back

[00:45:30] I was lucky and got my account back over there

[00:45:32] he had to start from scratch

[00:45:34] but it's one of those things that you realize

[00:45:36] that you're gonna have to make sacrifices but at the end

[00:45:38] of the day the epiphany moment

[00:45:40] when you convert people

[00:45:42] when you unite the country you took somebody

[00:45:44] that probably hadn't done the homework

[00:45:46] talked about Trump's being a misogynist

[00:45:48] or whatever the hell they always make up

[00:45:50] there's always some theory they heard on CNN

[00:45:52] or MSNBC or they read on the Daily Beast

[00:45:54] at the end of the day

[00:45:56] they end up not want they

[00:45:58] to be denied until there's that moment

[00:46:00] and thank God for people like you

[00:46:02] because at the end of the day it would never happen

[00:46:04] we would never gain those additional people

[00:46:06] I hope that the entire country is waking up

[00:46:08] and in fact I hope it's the globe

[00:46:10] I worked for lots of governments years ago

[00:46:12] and I can tell you that the operations

[00:46:14] that are run by intelligence organizations

[00:46:16] doesn't matter whether it's MI6

[00:46:18] MISAD, the Scorpions

[00:46:20] it's really inconsequential

[00:46:22] whether you're KGB or otherwise

[00:46:24] they all are running operations like this

[00:46:26] so George I don't know if you want to take a break

[00:46:28] George or you want to go through the break

[00:46:30] um...

[00:46:32] no we'll take a break in a few

[00:46:34] but I just want to let people know

[00:46:36] so Mike actually brought up a great point

[00:46:38] please

[00:46:40] one of his friends seen the movie

[00:46:42] and that's how she

[00:46:44] all of a sudden switched

[00:46:46] switch came on she got God in her life

[00:46:48] she's seen the evil side of the people

[00:46:50] so when you encounter

[00:46:52] people that don't want to believe you

[00:46:54] all you have to do is go to

[00:46:56] gointolight.com

[00:46:58] you can purchase the DVD

[00:47:00] you can rent it, buy it, purchase

[00:47:02] whatever you want to do

[00:47:04] you can watch it

[00:47:06] Out of Shadows will always be free

[00:47:08] so you can go on Inlight.movie

[00:47:10] and you can watch Out of Shadows

[00:47:12] for free

[00:47:14] and then I made the price of a cup of coffee

[00:47:16] for a 3 day rental it's $4.99

[00:47:18] or you can buy it

[00:47:20] and when you register it's there on your account

[00:47:22] we're not selling it

[00:47:24] we're not trading your data

[00:47:26] we're not doing anything with that

[00:47:28] but what we're doing is because

[00:47:30] we were kicked off of everything

[00:47:32] we had to build our own platform with our own code

[00:47:34] so that we could host the film

[00:47:36] outside of the system

[00:47:38] and have a place for people to find it

[00:47:40] it's slower because

[00:47:42] Out of Shadows you can just send the link

[00:47:44] to YouTube or Facebook or whatever

[00:47:46] but this

[00:47:48] I'm going to need your audience's help

[00:47:50] for

[00:47:52] getting people to go to Inlight.movie

[00:47:54] because

[00:47:56] you can

[00:48:00] you just lost them

[00:48:02] you're frozen up there

[00:48:04] oh there you go, you're back

[00:48:06] we're going to go to commercial break

[00:48:08] so what I'm trying to explain to everybody is

[00:48:10] if you have like a little movie part of your house

[00:48:12] invite those people that don't want to believe you

[00:48:14] and just let them watch both of them

[00:48:16] back to back if you can

[00:48:18] but that is a good way

[00:48:20] and just look at their reactions

[00:48:22] don't try to push nothing on them

[00:48:24] let the movie do its work because it will do its work

[00:48:26] it's amazing

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[00:51:30] here with your host Lance Miliaccio

[00:51:32] George Bounty and our special guest Mike Smith

[00:51:34] so

[00:51:36] Lance I'm going to play the trailer in the light trailer

[00:51:38] so people can see this actually

[00:51:40] so I'm going to play this real quick it's like

[00:51:42] few minutes so watch it and we're going to

[00:51:44] get back into it here with Mike

[00:51:46] the

[00:51:48] the

[00:51:50] the

[00:51:52] the table

[00:51:54] is tilted folks

[00:51:56] the game is rigged

[00:51:58] and nobody seems to notice

[00:52:00] nobody seems to care

[00:52:02] the table is tilted folks

[00:52:04] the table is tilted folks

[00:52:06] the table is tilted folks

[00:52:08] nobody seems to care

[00:52:10] good honest hardworking people

[00:52:12] white collar blue collar doesn't matter what color shirt you have

[00:52:14] that's what the owners count on

[00:52:16] the fact that Americans will probably remain

[00:52:18] willfully ignorant because the

[00:52:20] owners of this country know the truth

[00:52:22] it's called the American dream

[00:52:24] because you have to be asleep to believe it

[00:52:28] it's a big club

[00:52:30] and you ain't in it

[00:52:32] you and I are not

[00:52:34] in the big club

[00:52:38] the

[00:52:40] the

[00:52:42] the

[00:52:44] the

[00:52:46] most people Mike

[00:52:48] only care about what's 50 feet

[00:52:50] from their door

[00:52:52] the

[00:52:54] the

[00:52:56] the people understand

[00:52:58] we're in the middle of war

[00:53:00] and the war is for your conscious mind

[00:53:02] we've all been influenced

[00:53:04] by these types

[00:53:06] of operations or information warfare

[00:53:10] psychological warfare

[00:53:12] is the most

[00:53:14] powerful type

[00:53:16] of warfare that can be

[00:53:18] implemented in a battle

[00:53:20] it's the most insidious type

[00:53:22] of warfare because it's designed

[00:53:24] to change

[00:53:26] a person's entire perspective

[00:53:28] short term or long term

[00:53:30] that's not to be reversed

[00:53:32] well most people if they want to really

[00:53:34] dumb it down they just say sigh up is marketing

[00:53:36] I don't dumb it down that way

[00:53:38] because

[00:53:40] few marketing campaigns cause other people

[00:53:42] to kill other people

[00:53:44] only sigh up does that

[00:53:48] Hollywood advertising

[00:53:50] music sports gaming

[00:53:52] social media all those

[00:53:54] things are tools all those things are tools

[00:53:56] that they use to

[00:53:58] message

[00:54:00] now are they good or bad that depends on who's behind

[00:54:02] the message and that depends on

[00:54:04] who's driving the narrative and that battle

[00:54:06] has been going on since the beginning of time

[00:54:10] don't listen to Mike Flynn

[00:54:12] listen to this guy

[00:54:14] listen to a doctor Harari

[00:54:16] or listen to Klaus Schwab

[00:54:18] or listen to some of these other leaders that are

[00:54:20] part of this organization those are two

[00:54:22] that are very public and they're on record

[00:54:24] with their ideas

[00:54:26] their timelines and their capabilities

[00:54:28] it's very real

[00:54:32] you don't even have to take my word for this stuff

[00:54:34] you can go to

[00:54:36] in QTEL

[00:54:38] and look up their articles about artificial intelligence

[00:54:40] what they're planning on doing with the artificial intelligence

[00:54:42] in the space of voting

[00:54:44] you can go to

[00:54:46] open ai's website look at the headline

[00:54:48] what they say they want to steer us

[00:54:50] in the right direction

[00:54:52] okay who gets to determine what's

[00:54:54] good for mankind

[00:54:58] only the truth stands up to questioning

[00:55:00] so you should never

[00:55:02] ever mind being challenged

[00:55:04] or questioned

[00:55:06] so when people say all the time

[00:55:08] how do I find the truth

[00:55:10] that's how you find it

[00:55:12] challenge it question it

[00:55:14] test it

[00:55:16] and what's left standing is the only thing

[00:55:18] that matters

[00:55:24] if you look at the arc of history

[00:55:26] the most powerful, the wealthiest

[00:55:28] and the most respected people in the world

[00:55:30] they never

[00:55:32] in the end

[00:55:34] are left standing

[00:55:36] because it's always a small group

[00:55:38] a small virtuous group

[00:55:40] that has unmitigating faith

[00:55:42] that stands for

[00:55:44] truth

[00:55:46] that stands for freedom

[00:55:48] that will stand up to these folks

[00:55:58] I know the light

[00:56:00] I was searching

[00:56:04] for someone

[00:56:08] and you were by my side

[00:56:20] okay I don't know if I said it

[00:56:22] to write documentary but into the light

[00:56:24] that documentary right there

[00:56:26] so if I said the other one might be

[00:56:28] that's the new trailer for the new documentary

[00:56:30] correct

[00:56:32] Mike let's take us into this

[00:56:34] where does this pick up

[00:56:36] where out of the shadow stops

[00:56:38] where does it start and where does it head

[00:56:40] that's a great question

[00:56:42] so what

[00:56:44] because I honestly after out of shadows

[00:56:46] I wasn't going to make another film

[00:56:48] and I was like because I know

[00:56:50] the biggest problem we need is a distribution

[00:56:52] outlet

[00:56:54] distribution platform that's the real

[00:56:56] issue that's what they gatekeepers control

[00:56:58] but

[00:57:00] along the way of working on that

[00:57:02] solving that problem

[00:57:04] I felt like

[00:57:06] it was being put on my heart God

[00:57:08] or however you want to say it

[00:57:10] having this overwhelming feeling

[00:57:12] you need to explain it to them

[00:57:14] and I'm like well okay

[00:57:16] I felt like we got to explain

[00:57:18] to the people how you're

[00:57:20] manipulated why you're being manipulated

[00:57:22] right

[00:57:24] and so I went into

[00:57:26] more of how

[00:57:28] our story is the key

[00:57:30] to everything the stories that we hear

[00:57:32] is

[00:57:34] the key to what we believe or not believe

[00:57:36] and where we get our stories

[00:57:38] so I went into

[00:57:40] we will go much deeper into psychological operations

[00:57:42] and we cover

[00:57:44] things that the audience probably is not aware

[00:57:46] of like

[00:57:48] most people have heard of demographics

[00:57:50] to figure out a target group of people

[00:57:52] but

[00:57:54] as you said earlier

[00:57:56] these programs didn't stop

[00:57:58] these MK Ultra programs didn't stop

[00:58:00] they kept going well now they've evolved

[00:58:02] into what's called psychographics

[00:58:06] and psychographics are

[00:58:08] what they gather from

[00:58:10] you holding your machine your divide

[00:58:12] what you like

[00:58:14] what you dislike how long your eyes

[00:58:16] are looking at different

[00:58:18] you know

[00:58:20] tweets or threads

[00:58:22] what you're reading what you're doing

[00:58:24] what's your facial through the camera

[00:58:26] they're monitoring and building digital clones

[00:58:28] and twins

[00:58:30] of everyone and then they run payloads

[00:58:32] like different scenarios

[00:58:34] through AI to see what the clones

[00:58:36] would do in certain situations

[00:58:38] that's how they're manipulating

[00:58:40] that's like when you say

[00:58:42] I'm going to buy a new car

[00:58:44] and you pick up your phone

[00:58:46] and you're like

[00:58:48] you see people seeing that right

[00:58:50] yes

[00:58:52] so that's kind of a short example

[00:58:54] of how it works but it's much more complex

[00:58:56] than that

[00:58:58] so we go deeper into

[00:59:00] the actual manipulation

[00:59:02] techniques

[00:59:04] and tactics

[00:59:06] that we as the people

[00:59:08] unknowingly are being subjected to

[00:59:10] and we're

[00:59:12] unknowingly giving

[00:59:14] this information to

[00:59:16] these big tech companies for free

[00:59:18] and they're using that information

[00:59:20] to build a digital twin of you

[00:59:22] to run what's called

[00:59:24] payloads

[00:59:26] which a payload is a scenario

[00:59:28] a product

[00:59:30] on the twins and they can

[00:59:32] see how this group of people will vote

[00:59:34] they will see how

[00:59:36] if we want to get

[00:59:38] someone to go to the store

[00:59:40] and buy

[00:59:42] a package of Coke

[00:59:44] over Pepsi

[00:59:46] what would make me

[00:59:48] go buy a Coke versus a Pepsi

[00:59:50] and they would run these payloads

[00:59:52] until they put the right ads

[00:59:54] or the right things in front of my face

[00:59:56] until they get like a 70-30 chance

[00:59:58] of me doing them

[01:00:00] in a physical reality so now they're controlling

[01:00:02] what we're buying, what we're spending

[01:00:04] what we're going, what we're doing

[01:00:06] and the movie goes into

[01:00:08] that manipulation

[01:00:10] at a higher level and it shows it to you

[01:00:12] where you can understand it, it's a very short movie

[01:00:14] it's only an hour

[01:00:16] and seven minutes, not very long

[01:00:18] but there's a lot of information

[01:00:20] and a lot of layers of information in that movie

[01:00:22] How long is the first one?

[01:00:24] The first one is an hour

[01:00:26] and 17 minutes, the second one is

[01:00:28] an hour and 7 minutes

[01:00:30] Alright so you guys can have a movie party

[01:00:32] watch it for an hour, 17, a little break

[01:00:34] a little food snack break, popcorn, whatever

[01:00:36] and jump right back in and watch the second part

[01:00:38] It's easier

[01:00:40] Start red-pillin' everybody

[01:00:42] When you were making Into the Light

[01:00:44] did you

[01:00:46] I said when you were making the new documentary

[01:00:48] Into the Light

[01:00:50] what was your biggest surprise moment

[01:00:52] was there anything that you thought

[01:00:54] there's no way, are you telling me this is how the payloads work

[01:00:56] was it because you saw

[01:00:58] the creation

[01:01:00] of the narrative and how they were working through

[01:01:02] tech doubt or really fully manipulated

[01:01:04] was it something that Flynn said

[01:01:06] or Laura Logan said or maybe Boone Cutler

[01:01:08] you know what thing really

[01:01:10] surprised you, what really got you like son

[01:01:12] of a bitch, what the hell is this

[01:01:14] It's what Brian, hands down

[01:01:16] not even close what Brian Gamble said to me

[01:01:18] in the movie about the digital twins

[01:01:20] When I finished that interview

[01:01:22] and you gotta remember you guys do interviews all the time

[01:01:24] so you can have 2 or 3

[01:01:26] 4 hours of interview tape

[01:01:28] and you're only going to use 5 or 6

[01:01:30] minutes maybe

[01:01:32] So when you find those moments

[01:01:34] after I did my interview with Brian

[01:01:36] the first one

[01:01:38] I went home and I was like I don't want to know anymore

[01:01:40] I don't want to know anymore

[01:01:42] this is so

[01:01:44] it's freaking me out so bad

[01:01:46] because I was caught

[01:01:48] in realizing

[01:01:50] what he was showing me

[01:01:52] You want to tell the audience really quickly

[01:01:54] Brian Gamble's, I'm sorry George

[01:01:56] I didn't mean to step on you

[01:01:58] No, I just want to explain about the digital twins because I don't think people know about it

[01:02:00] Can you explain who Brian Gamble

[01:02:02] is, give us his background

[01:02:04] because the audience may not know who he is

[01:02:06] I know who he is but if you could do that

[01:02:08] Well Brian Gamble works in Intel

[01:02:10] He was a US Naval

[01:02:12] data analyst

[01:02:14] He worked in

[01:02:16] He worked at the highest levels

[01:02:18] of data analysis for the Navy

[01:02:20] and

[01:02:22] he has held some very high level

[01:02:24] security positions

[01:02:26] and has had access to programs

[01:02:28] and things that most people have no clue about

[01:02:30] and then

[01:02:32] not to overlook

[01:02:34] this one moment but Lara Logan

[01:02:36] has a moment, she has an epiphany

[01:02:38] in the middle of

[01:02:40] our interview in the middle of the movie

[01:02:42] where you actually see

[01:02:44] Lara realize

[01:02:46] I'm not going to give it away because then people

[01:02:48] won't watch it

[01:02:50] twice but

[01:02:52] there is

[01:02:54] Chum the waters Mike, chum the waters

[01:02:56] I show her

[01:02:58] I point out to her

[01:03:00] how

[01:03:02] agencies handle assets

[01:03:04] and I show her

[01:03:06] like

[01:03:08] have you ever considered this

[01:03:10] or have you considered that and I just walked her through a logic chain

[01:03:12] in the middle of it

[01:03:14] she's like oh my god

[01:03:16] I had no idea

[01:03:18] and what happened

[01:03:20] because that's what happened to me

[01:03:22] it's what happens to everyone

[01:03:24] when you realize you've been manipulated

[01:03:26] first you get disappointed

[01:03:28] you don't want to believe it

[01:03:30] then you get a little angry

[01:03:32] and then you have that decision to make

[01:03:34] well what do I do about it

[01:03:36] do I just do nothing? pretend like I don't know this

[01:03:38] or do I do something about it

[01:03:40] and so

[01:03:42] these movies you said it a minute ago

[01:03:44] I was really happy you said it

[01:03:46] show these movies

[01:03:48] these are tools to start conversations

[01:03:50] these are movies to convince people to do things

[01:03:52] it's like hey what did you think

[01:03:54] about this part

[01:03:56] what did you think about that

[01:03:58] you know what because the psychographic

[01:04:00] thing is going to freak a lot of people out

[01:04:02] because when you see the twins

[01:04:04] and you see them actually that they are already built

[01:04:06] these things are real

[01:04:08] like say if your mom dies

[01:04:10] or your aunt dies or your dad dies

[01:04:12] you can pay

[01:04:14] $29 a month to have access

[01:04:16] to your dead relative in the metaverse

[01:04:18] and talk to your dead

[01:04:20] relative through the AI

[01:04:22] that's going to freak people out

[01:04:24] but it's real

[01:04:26] we just made that up

[01:04:28] it's real

[01:04:30] so what things are real

[01:04:32] there's always a big surprise

[01:04:34] what was the guy's name you said

[01:04:36] Brian Gamble

[01:04:38] Brian Gamble

[01:04:40] Mike I have a question

[01:04:42] there's a guy that you probably

[01:04:44] should meet you may not know

[01:04:46] George and I did a bunch of research

[01:04:48] for a website from Mike Lindell

[01:04:50] have you ever heard the name Dennis

[01:04:52] Malgumry

[01:04:54] I met Dennis yes

[01:04:56] did you get any of the details

[01:04:58] they tried to discredit him

[01:05:00] you know that he disclosed 53

[01:05:02] discs in a skiff

[01:05:04] a lot of it had to do with the spying apparatus

[01:05:06] that a lot of people are unfamiliar with

[01:05:08] the Hammer Super Computer and the Hammer exploit

[01:05:10] score

[01:05:12] Hammer and scorecard

[01:05:14] Hammer and scorecard is different

[01:05:16] that's a program the Hammer Super Computer

[01:05:18] and the Hammer exploit

[01:05:20] the Super Computer is obviously a Super Computer

[01:05:22] he helped design that

[01:05:24] but the Hammer exploit actually takes a program

[01:05:26] like echelon, carnivore

[01:05:28] Hammer and scorecard you stick it into the system

[01:05:30] and the Hammer exploit

[01:05:32] actually improves

[01:05:34] the veracity of the program

[01:05:36] it's actually like putting the program on steroids

[01:05:38] but Mike

[01:05:40] Dennis Malgumry designed lots of programs

[01:05:42] but the spying apparatus information he has

[01:05:44] if you look at the case in 2006

[01:05:46] in Las Vegas and you start

[01:05:48] reading it I think it would make for a hell of a story

[01:05:50] this guy knows some stuff

[01:05:52] he actually created a program that's now

[01:05:54] declassified called Project Orca

[01:05:56] which is an underwater surveillance program

[01:05:58] but it shows they discredited him

[01:06:00] and yet years later they ask him to write this new

[01:06:02] program for the Navy

[01:06:04] very interesting guy but it talks about

[01:06:06] the complexity of the spying apparatus

[01:06:08] he talks about how deep it is

[01:06:10] there's lots of people have you ever looked at

[01:06:12] the information on

[01:06:14] Michael Corey

[01:06:16] have you ever heard of Michael Ray Corey

[01:06:18] I have he's on X

[01:06:20] yeah interesting stuff

[01:06:22] because he talks about the internet

[01:06:24] that's above the internet and the true people

[01:06:26] that are controlling the backbone

[01:06:28] of what we do see much like what you're describing

[01:06:30] he's talking about the Ericsson stuff

[01:06:32] yeah Ericsson

[01:06:34] it's pretty incredible when you start to

[01:06:36] really understand the bad actors that are involved

[01:06:38] and you see their names continue

[01:06:40] and come up in everything that even you're

[01:06:42] discussing now

[01:06:44] well think about this

[01:06:46] if information is power and information is knowledge

[01:06:48] and you can control the information

[01:06:50] control the population

[01:06:52] so if you are a

[01:06:54] like in Game of Thrones

[01:06:56] and you're the iron bank

[01:06:58] yeah

[01:07:00] iron bank controls all the kingdoms

[01:07:02] yeah

[01:07:04] like in Game of Thrones

[01:07:06] there's you know if you look a little deeper

[01:07:08] into the real world there's

[01:07:10] iron bank and

[01:07:12] control the kingdoms

[01:07:14] well lots of people

[01:07:16] allege that the agency

[01:07:18] the different trilateral commission

[01:07:20] the Clinton Foundation

[01:07:22] Davos, Bohemian Grove

[01:07:24] Com 300

[01:07:26] at the end of the day there's these different groups

[01:07:28] that they believe

[01:07:30] and I believe a lot of it's true

[01:07:32] that they influence what the true agenda

[01:07:34] of the planet is and they're the ones

[01:07:36] actually controlling the governments like the Federal Reserve Bank

[01:07:38] and that the people they get

[01:07:40] on the wrong side of like Saddam Hussein

[01:07:42] like Putin

[01:07:44] different individuals of course

[01:07:46] to get on the other side of that

[01:07:48] of course they become the world's enemies

[01:07:50] we know that most of the stuff that comes out of those stories in the Middle East

[01:07:52] I saw some of it

[01:07:54] at the end of the day most of those stories are lies

[01:07:56] they created things about WMDs

[01:07:58] we know that now

[01:08:00] so same thing

[01:08:02] so Mike let me do this

[01:08:04] so you've got the movies up now

[01:08:06] I have a great chance for the audience to know where they can find you on social media

[01:08:08] because I suspect that God's

[01:08:10] not done with you yet Mike

[01:08:12] I have a feeling you're going to get

[01:08:14] you're going to keep going here

[01:08:16] hopefully you stay safe in the process of doing it

[01:08:18] so where do they find you on social media first

[01:08:20] okay the only

[01:08:22] I'm only on two platforms right now

[01:08:24] I'm on Twitter

[01:08:26] and this would I made this account when I was

[01:08:28] super anonymous it's called

[01:08:30] at corrupts 41

[01:08:32] 50, 70, 251

[01:08:34] okay we'll definitely

[01:08:36] repost that one more time Mike

[01:08:38] slow, crux

[01:08:40] CURX

[01:08:42] 41, 50

[01:08:44] 72, 51

[01:08:46] okay

[01:08:48] put me on

[01:08:50] on X

[01:08:52] and on true social I'm at crux

[01:08:54] 1765

[01:08:56] 1765 okay

[01:08:58] and then let's talk about how

[01:09:00] they get the documentary given the website

[01:09:02] George I don't know if you want to pull the website up

[01:09:04] I actually stuck the link in there to make it easy for them

[01:09:06] it's really simple guys

[01:09:08] it's into the light

[01:09:10] not moving

[01:09:12] and to like demo and for

[01:09:14] 499 they can grab your new documentary

[01:09:16] and they can stream it right from your platform

[01:09:18] correct and it and

[01:09:20] and when they and I want to tell you when you sign

[01:09:22] up the reason you have to sign up making account

[01:09:24] is because we're hosting it on our own

[01:09:26] code it's not on Google code

[01:09:28] it's on Amazon code it's on Microsoft code

[01:09:30] it's on Microsoft code

[01:09:32] our code on our own system

[01:09:34] we're not going to sell your data

[01:09:36] but by the way if you do register

[01:09:38] and watch into the light

[01:09:40] you will be automatically

[01:09:42] signed up for our next project

[01:09:44] and we will get

[01:09:46] early access to some of our alpha and

[01:09:48] betas that we're going to show

[01:09:50] in the coming months

[01:09:52] hopefully I'm going to show some teaser

[01:09:54] behind this footage and that sort of thing

[01:09:56] Mike do you want to give everybody

[01:09:58] as we do this do you want to give them any kind of a little

[01:10:00] little

[01:10:02] detail of what the new movie is going to be

[01:10:04] are you ready to do that yet or no

[01:10:06] it's not a movie

[01:10:08] it's a

[01:10:10] solution to some problems

[01:10:12] that work

[01:10:14] I don't want to go that way yet but I think

[01:10:16] I can tell you this

[01:10:18] when people see what we've actually

[01:10:20] built

[01:10:22] they're going to be very very very happy

[01:10:24] and it's amazing

[01:10:26] you've been working on it for six years

[01:10:28] you know that's one of the things

[01:10:30] when you're a storyteller and you seem to be

[01:10:32] telling stories of bad news

[01:10:34] it's tough on our show

[01:10:36] we normally put a lot of humor in the show

[01:10:38] we normally have gifts

[01:10:40] and all kinds of crazy stuff that George and I do

[01:10:42] because we try to lighten the environment

[01:10:44] because we cover a lot of serious topics

[01:10:46] it's never easy when you're that storyteller

[01:10:48] you don't have a solution

[01:10:50] you come with the bad news

[01:10:52] you don't come with any accountability or consequences

[01:10:54] can I address that right there

[01:10:56] because please

[01:10:58] in my line of work

[01:11:00] as a coordinator

[01:11:02] as a second action director

[01:11:04] a lot of times you're dealing with life or death

[01:11:06] in the situations

[01:11:08] or major injury

[01:11:10] if something goes wrong

[01:11:12] and everybody's your critic in Hollywood

[01:11:14] I call

[01:11:16] Hollywood is full of

[01:11:18] ladder kickers

[01:11:20] there's very few people that will help you

[01:11:22] they want to kick your ladder out all the time

[01:11:24] so most of the time you have people coming to you

[01:11:26] on set

[01:11:28] especially my position

[01:11:30] I mean this is never going to work, this is dangerous

[01:11:32] blah blah blah

[01:11:34] and they'll give me all the reasons why it's not going to work

[01:11:36] or something's going to go wrong

[01:11:38] and then I'll say that's great

[01:11:40] you have a solution

[01:11:42] and probably

[01:11:44] 2 or 3 out of 10 will have a real solution

[01:11:46] and those are the

[01:11:48] people that I would always seek counsel with

[01:11:50] over time over the years

[01:11:52] what do you see? am I missing anything?

[01:11:54] can you tell me anything?

[01:11:56] so when I started making these movies

[01:11:58] I was like I can't make

[01:12:00] these movies and not have a real

[01:12:02] solution

[01:12:04] to solve the problem

[01:12:06] but

[01:12:08] to have the solution to solve the problem

[01:12:10] enough people

[01:12:12] will have to wake up and change

[01:12:14] their habits

[01:12:16] to get to that

[01:12:18] solution

[01:12:20] so that was the idea

[01:12:22] and I want to sound too preachy or anything

[01:12:24] but when God saved me

[01:12:26] I heard very clearly

[01:12:28] from the very beginning

[01:12:30] I want you to sell everything you have in LA

[01:12:32] I want you to move to Nashville

[01:12:34] I want you to build something

[01:12:36] for the Christians

[01:12:38] I have no idea what that means

[01:12:40] but first you have to wake them up

[01:12:42] and that's when I started making a lot of shadows

[01:12:44] and I thought

[01:12:46] it was interesting

[01:12:48] so I thought when I finished the first one

[01:12:50] I was done

[01:12:52] I thought okay I'm done

[01:12:54] but I wasn't done

[01:12:56] so you got to explain it to them

[01:12:58] and so that's why I did

[01:13:00] into the light

[01:13:02] but I've been working on the solution

[01:13:04] now for six years

[01:13:06] and I think when people see what we've been

[01:13:08] putting together

[01:13:10] and by the way supporting the film

[01:13:12] goes to helping find the solution

[01:13:14] the first support I get on the film

[01:13:16] the faster I keep going

[01:13:18] I'm trying to tell

[01:13:20] well I think it's important

[01:13:22] for the storytellers

[01:13:24] and the people that are exposing the truth

[01:13:26] that the average person needs to do everything they can

[01:13:28] to support them

[01:13:30] because at the end of the day this is some thankless work

[01:13:32] we do it all the time

[01:13:34] we're always grinding

[01:13:36] we're always trying to expose what the facts are

[01:13:38] but George go ahead

[01:13:40] you said something about

[01:13:42] I just put up his book just there

[01:13:44] next to him

[01:13:46] you see it

[01:13:48] yeah we did a little 3D

[01:13:50] GIF action there before you Mike

[01:13:52] oh yeah those are the DVDs

[01:13:54] yeah that's a GIF pack

[01:13:56] you get both movies

[01:13:58] you can order double DVDs

[01:14:00] for $24 or something like that

[01:14:02] so get over there

[01:14:04] go to the URL

[01:14:06] into the light dot movie

[01:14:08] go over there and buy the DVDs

[01:14:10] I mean obviously great opportunity

[01:14:12] to share them with the family

[01:14:14] you can give them as GIFs

[01:14:16] do whatever you gotta do lots of birthdays coming up I'm sure

[01:14:18] also I think George had a great idea

[01:14:20] have a movie screening party

[01:14:22] people are looking to get together in their own homes

[01:14:24] why not show these movies

[01:14:26] and take an opportunity

[01:14:28] because I think Mike's taking it from a neutral

[01:14:30] enough position

[01:14:32] look he's a storyteller here's the story

[01:14:34] you guys decide for yourself whether you think it's true or not

[01:14:36] but maybe it'll open your eyes up

[01:14:38] and maybe it'll help you in the future

[01:14:40] decide whether or not

[01:14:42] maybe there's more going on that meets the eye

[01:14:44] Mike first of all

[01:14:46] I want to thank you for joining the Big Ming Show

[01:14:48] we really appreciate the time you took with us

[01:14:50] when you get a little further along

[01:14:52] we might want to connect with Brian Gamble

[01:14:54] sounds like that could be an amazing interview for our show

[01:14:56] I will make

[01:14:58] it's funny while you were talking

[01:15:00] he was calling me

[01:15:02] I think you would be fascinated to have Brian

[01:15:04] on your show

[01:15:06] I know George well enough to know

[01:15:08] that he was thinking don't go anywhere

[01:15:10] we're going to close out here

[01:15:12] Mike we want to talk to you backstage for a minute

[01:15:14] so listen I want to thank you guys

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[01:15:22] you know we're not one of those groups

[01:15:24] take our short form content

[01:15:26] use it to wake up your friends, family, loved ones

[01:15:28] maybe your own children

[01:15:30] my own daughter is much like Mike's daughter

[01:15:32] I'd love for her to watch this documentary

[01:15:34] we're going to be very excited to see what's going on

[01:15:36] at the end of the day you guys need to do that

[01:15:38] we obviously to be the tip of the spear

[01:15:40] of course we're going to have to fight

[01:15:42] they're not going to make it easy

[01:15:44] if you want to unite the country

[01:15:46] we have to get everybody working together

[01:15:48] because DC is extremely organized

[01:15:50] they've got fomented narratives

[01:15:52] they pass down through us

[01:15:54] through sources just like Mike described

[01:15:56] Hollywood mainstream media

[01:15:58] and of course social media

[01:16:00] you don't want to be a victim

[01:16:02] we'll see you guys tomorrow night

[01:16:04] Mike it was a pleasure having you on

[01:16:06] those documentaries are amazing

[01:16:08] great work, great sacrifice

[01:16:10] God bless you and your family

[01:16:12] don't go nowhere Mike

[01:16:14] you can't leave right now

[01:16:16] oh Mike by the way

[01:16:18] now you are Big Ming Mafia

[01:16:20] we'll explain that later now as you can't leave

[01:16:22] it is what it is Mike

[01:16:24] okay

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[01:16:28] see you tomorrow night

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