Point of View May 6, 2024 – Hour 2 : Christian Educator’s Conference

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[00:00:09] And now, Kenneth Dexter.

[00:00:20] Welcome back to Point of View. We're so glad you are with us today.

[00:00:24] And not long ago, Kirby Anderson had George Barno on the program.

[00:00:29] He's got a new book out called Raising Spiritual Champions.

[00:00:33] And so I posted an article about some of the information in that book

[00:00:38] at PointOfView.net because I think it pertains to what we are going to talk about

[00:00:42] with my next guest, Mike Riddle.

[00:00:45] Because Barno says, and this is a quote from him,

[00:00:48] Today's children are not being raised in an environment in which the concept

[00:00:51] of absolute moral truth receives favorable treatment.

[00:00:55] And the widespread doubts about absolute truth are clearly affecting children.

[00:01:00] He also says that his research shows that foundational beliefs of 8 to 12-year-olds today

[00:01:05] puts them on a track to abandon biblical Christianity in record numbers.

[00:01:11] And he talks about some of the deficiency in the world view,

[00:01:15] the Christian world view of parents so no wonder the kids are having struggles.

[00:01:20] He says the fact that preteens display a higher likelihood of acknowledging Jesus Christ

[00:01:26] as the only means to eternal life than to teenagers.

[00:01:29] So preteens have a better likelihood, but as they grow up into teenagerhood,

[00:01:36] they're less likely to acknowledge Jesus Christ as the only means to eternal life.

[00:01:41] So there's just a lot of reasons for this,

[00:01:45] and we're not going to unpack every reason and go to George Barno's book for that.

[00:01:49] But we are going to talk about solutions

[00:01:51] and how do you teach the teachers to make a difference and an impact in the lives of people for Christ.

[00:02:00] I guess you could call that apologetics, and my next guest specializes in that.

[00:02:06] His name is Mike Riddle, and he is founder and president of Creation Training Initiative.

[00:02:12] And he has spoken all over the country and all over the world at universities, at NASA, at churches,

[00:02:20] and he was also a captain in the U.S. Marine Corps and a national champion in track and field.

[00:02:28] So he's got a diverse and interesting background,

[00:02:31] but he is going to be leading a conference coming up here at the Creation Research Institute in Dallas.

[00:02:40] And it's open to people from all over the country to come and hear what he has to say.

[00:02:46] I wanted to give people a preview of that.

[00:02:48] So, Mike Riddle, thank you so much for joining me.

[00:02:51] Well, thank you very much for the opportunity.

[00:02:53] Mike, you know, I just kind of told people that you've been very busy all these years,

[00:02:59] but when did you notice that Christian education was deficient in many ways?

[00:03:05] That's been quite a while there.

[00:03:08] It was, I'd say, that was the whole reason we started this ministry 13 years ago.

[00:03:13] And before that it was with the answers and genesis and ICR.

[00:03:17] So we've seen it since the early 90s, even the late 80s,

[00:03:20] that we have a serious issue with equipping the next generation.

[00:03:25] So how did you observe it then?

[00:03:27] What did you observe then?

[00:03:29] Well, I've been a teacher for many, many years,

[00:03:32] and I've been watching what's been happening at churches and friends I had

[00:03:36] and what they're being taught at home.

[00:03:40] And they couldn't answer questions.

[00:03:43] They're getting just beat up with just basic, difficult questions.

[00:03:48] I say basic.

[00:03:49] Once you learn the answer, some of them are basic,

[00:03:52] but they can be rather difficult such as who did Cain marry?

[00:03:55] How could Norford all the creatures on the ark?

[00:03:58] Why does God send people to hell?

[00:04:00] Those kind of questions, they just did not, were not prepared to answer those.

[00:04:05] Well, let me just come back to you with that, Mike,

[00:04:08] because I mean, I think some people listening probably wouldn't know the answer

[00:04:11] to those questions.

[00:04:13] Who did Cain marry?

[00:04:15] Well, the first part of the answer is that in Genesis 1.5 where it says,

[00:04:19] That he paid over sons and daughters plural.

[00:04:23] So the idea is Cain most likely married his sister a very close relation.

[00:04:29] Was that wrong?

[00:04:31] Well, today it is.

[00:04:32] It's called incest.

[00:04:33] And the reason you don't want to marry your close relations today

[00:04:36] is because of mutations.

[00:04:37] We have a tremendous genetic loading mutations in us that keeps accumulating more and more.

[00:04:42] If both husband and wife had the same mutation,

[00:04:45] that means the children could be deformed.

[00:04:48] But back then we didn't have that many mutations.

[00:04:51] God's creation started off perfect.

[00:04:53] Nothing wrong with it.

[00:04:55] So you could marry your close relation.

[00:04:57] Wasn't the book of Leviticus that God outlawed it?

[00:05:01] Marrying your close relation, brother sister,

[00:05:03] which is about 2,500 years after the creation.

[00:05:06] That would be 2,500 years of accumulating mutations that got dangerous.

[00:05:11] But before then it was perfectly fine.

[00:05:13] Yes.

[00:05:14] Okay.

[00:05:15] See, there's so many things like that.

[00:05:17] And I know that you are in some sense a scientist.

[00:05:20] And I think that we may be deficient.

[00:05:24] That may be one of our deficiencies today is just helping people understand scientifically

[00:05:30] that science and faith, for instance,

[00:05:34] are not really in opposition to one another.

[00:05:36] No, they're not.

[00:05:38] The other big area is they don't understand the Bible well enough.

[00:05:42] They're not being taught scripture in their Sunday schools

[00:05:46] or not getting enough at home.

[00:05:48] And a big part of that is the first three chapters of the whole Bible.

[00:05:51] Genesis chapter 1 through 3 of the reason the whole rest of the Bible has taken place.

[00:05:55] And they're being told that's not important.

[00:05:57] Or that the first chapter of Genesis really doesn't mean what it says.

[00:06:02] Well, that's absolutely incorrect.

[00:06:04] That shows people doing that either doing it deliberately

[00:06:08] or they just don't understand God's Word there.

[00:06:11] Because Genesis 1 clearly teaches that God created everything in six days.

[00:06:16] I know there's lots of variations of that, but only one of them can be right.

[00:06:21] So, Mike...

[00:06:22] And I'll take God's Word for what he said.

[00:06:24] Why is it so important that people understand creation and our foundations?

[00:06:30] I mean, this was one of the things I wondered when I first became a Christian decades ago.

[00:06:36] And I learned that people really were concerned that creation was not taught in the public schools.

[00:06:43] But even in the Christian schools, is it deficient and why is it important to strengthen that?

[00:06:49] Well, thank you for that question.

[00:06:53] This is one of the most important questions we can get.

[00:06:55] Why is the first chapter of Genesis so important when it talks about creation?

[00:07:00] Well, first of all, it deals with the authority of Scripture.

[00:07:03] Secondly, it deals with the gospel.

[00:07:05] People say, it's not a salvation issue.

[00:07:07] Well, maybe not necessarily.

[00:07:09] But it is a gospel issue.

[00:07:11] Here's why.

[00:07:12] Because the Bible clearly teaches death was the result of sin.

[00:07:17] The Bible clearly teaches that.

[00:07:20] If you have millions of years of time in Genesis, then what was going on for those millions of years before Adam and Eve came on board?

[00:07:28] It would be dead things, the fossil record.

[00:07:31] In other words, a belief in millions of years is a firm belief in death before sin.

[00:07:38] Because all that would have been going on before Adam and Eve came on board.

[00:07:41] And that's a serious issue with the gospel now.

[00:07:44] Because if sin is not the cause of death, why did Jesus Christ have to physically die on the cross and be raised from the dead?

[00:07:51] So you can't really answer that question anymore.

[00:07:54] Also, it's an issue of the character of God.

[00:07:57] Because all that would have been going on through the first, second, third, fourth millions and millions of years.

[00:08:04] Death, decay and disease, what am I going on?

[00:08:07] In Genesis 1.31, God will look back on all that decay and death and called it very good.

[00:08:14] Is that what God really calls very good death, decay and disease?

[00:08:18] And then it's a matter of the truthfulness of Jesus Christ.

[00:08:22] Because in Mark 10, the Gospel of Mark chapter 10,

[00:08:26] Mark 10, Jesus makes this statement,

[00:08:29] but from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female.

[00:08:33] So it was Jesus believed people were on the planet from the beginning of creation, not after millions of years.

[00:08:39] Let me jump in. We've got a break.

[00:08:41] Next up we will talk about the conference that's coming up and how you can get involved if you'd like to.

[00:08:47] This is Viewpoints with Kirby Anderson.

[00:09:02] The Prohomos campus protests could only last so long before some people in charge exercised some common sense.

[00:09:10] One of my cliches on radio is common sense is breaking out all over.

[00:09:14] We're seeing that the words and actions of people who understand what is happening.

[00:09:18] Even at Columbia University, police were called and arrested 108 protesters last month, but not much has happened.

[00:09:24] The President of the University of Texas at Austin took stronger action and was criticized by the faculty.

[00:09:29] But presidents and university administrators are starting to realize they cannot continue to function with these protests on campus.

[00:09:36] Classes have gone online and graduations have been cancelled.

[00:09:39] Bill Maher and his TV show encouraged the protesters to start protesting truly evil groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

[00:09:47] He also wondered why they weren't protesting North Korea, China, and Myanmar.

[00:09:51] On radio I've questioned why there was no protest about other Muslims being killed.

[00:09:56] These students never protested when Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad used poison gas against his own people.

[00:10:02] They've not been in the streets when Muslims in Sudan kill millions in an endless civil war.

[00:10:07] And Boko Haram kidnaps whole villages of women and yet have had a short protest 10 years ago but nothing since.

[00:10:14] Common sense seems to be breaking out in the corporate world.

[00:10:17] Google recently fired 28 employees who were protesting the company's cloud computing contract with Israel.

[00:10:22] According to the company's vice president, the employees took over office spaces, defaced our property,

[00:10:28] and physically impeded the work of other Googlers. They were all shown the door.

[00:10:32] We need more people in charge to exercise common sense and we need to tell the protesting students they are focused on the wrong cause.

[00:10:39] I'm Kirby Anderson, and that's my Point of View.

[00:11:04] Welcome back to Point of View. I'm Pena Dexter. Mike Riddle is my guest.

[00:11:08] Mike is going to be leading a conference coming up that basically is all about trading Christians to teach and defend Biblical truth.

[00:11:18] It's going to be held at the Creation Research Institute in Dallas.

[00:11:25] People from all over the country are signed up though. Mike, tell us what you're going to teach people at this conference.

[00:11:31] Yes, thank you. This will be our fourth year with the Creation Research Institute to teach this Christian Educators Conference.

[00:11:39] We do get a lot of educators from all over the country but anybody can attend.

[00:11:43] Usually we would get a college agent above. We would have two high schoolers there.

[00:11:47] But it's full three days and we teach things. We start with something like the Biblical foundations.

[00:11:54] Make sure we understand the Biblical foundations.

[00:11:57] We have a whole section on critical thinking skills and tactics.

[00:12:01] It's how to ask the right questions and turn the situation around for somebody who is challenging you.

[00:12:07] Understanding the days of creation, we go through a lot of Biblical apologetics.

[00:12:11] How to answer some of the tough questions in there.

[00:12:14] We have the science like the origin of life which is a killer to the evolution model.

[00:12:20] That's a killer. We own that one absolutely.

[00:12:23] The origin of humans, they cannot explain that one. We go into that.

[00:12:27] We do teaching for dinosaurs. How to teach grades 1 through 6 on dinosaurs?

[00:12:32] A whole section on that.

[00:12:34] We cover artificial intelligence and transhumanity.

[00:12:37] So did dinosaurs coexist with man?

[00:12:40] Yes they did. And that comes from Genesis chapter 1.

[00:12:44] God created land animals and people at the same day.

[00:12:48] All the scientific evidence supports that.

[00:12:51] Because we're finding unphosalized dinosaur bones, soft tissue in dinosaur bones, DNA, proteins, red blood cells, carbon-14.

[00:13:00] All of those completely refute the evolution model of being dinosaurs.

[00:13:05] They are not that old. They live with human beings.

[00:13:08] The evidence is overwhelming there.

[00:13:10] That's why we need to get it to our students because they're not going to get it at the public schools.

[00:13:14] Unfortunately they don't get it in many Christian schools either.

[00:13:17] Well that's what I want to ask you because I think the kind of people you're going to get there are going to be people to teach at Christian schools.

[00:13:24] At least a large quantity of those types of teachers.

[00:13:28] Are Christian schools part of the solution to some of the problems that face our culture?

[00:13:33] Yes they are. They're a big part of the solution.

[00:13:36] Because what we do, and this is biblical 2 Timothy 2-2,

[00:13:40] if you want to reach a lot of our youth, don't try and do it yourself.

[00:13:45] We have the mechanism out there called the Christian schools, the parents, the home schools groups there.

[00:13:53] The more teachers we can get trained, and this includes youth leaders,

[00:13:57] the more we can get trained, the more youth we can reach all over the country.

[00:14:01] Because those teachers will have the students for a full year and continue to teach them.

[00:14:06] So that's why we hold this conference.

[00:14:08] It gives many teachers in there.

[00:14:09] We go all over the country with our courses to train students.

[00:14:13] We even have chapters in there on what we call trans alphabet soup.

[00:14:17] It's very important right now to educate people on that.

[00:14:21] How to answer those questions?

[00:14:23] Dynamics and Christian education, one of the things we teach is how to educate for success.

[00:14:28] We have a lot of experience on educating children.

[00:14:32] So not only do they just hear the information, but they can actually use it.

[00:14:36] We call it the application level training.

[00:14:39] In other words, too much we just hear information and can't use it.

[00:14:42] But Jesus taught through application.

[00:14:46] Yeah, because you've got this conference and I'm seeing a lot. There's a lot to it.

[00:14:51] So you can only absorb so much.

[00:14:54] And I'm told that you have ways to help the student be successful in the actual learning process.

[00:14:59] Will you be using those and teaching those at this conference coming up in June?

[00:15:04] Yes, we will. We'll even have a push-up box there just as a reinforcer.

[00:15:09] So what are some of the... Can you just give us an idea what some of those effective teaching methods are for

[00:15:17] catechizing and teaching kids?

[00:15:21] Yes, yes.

[00:15:22] Passing along your faith?

[00:15:23] We will.

[00:15:24] Give us an example.

[00:15:26] One of the things we started, and I actually started this back when I was training my consult engineers,

[00:15:31] called a time checkpoint.

[00:15:33] When you cover a section of information, it could be a chapter or whatever, you stop.

[00:15:39] And then you hand out a piece of paper face down.

[00:15:42] And it's got on that piece of paper anywhere from three to maybe six questions on it over the information you just covered.

[00:15:50] And this is a closed book, closed note exercise.

[00:15:54] And it's timed, usually two to three minutes, maybe four most.

[00:15:59] Close book, close note, and you start.

[00:16:01] And they have that amount of time to finish answering all these questions.

[00:16:05] We very seldom get more than 50% of the people who will finish this, and that's okay.

[00:16:10] That's a lot.

[00:16:11] When you're all done, what you do as the instructor now is you go over the exercise.

[00:16:18] And if the students didn't get it right, they always write the correct answer.

[00:16:23] So they always end with correctness.

[00:16:25] Now this is not a test.

[00:16:27] The sky's full of repetition.

[00:16:29] It lets the students know what they know, what they don't know before they move on.

[00:16:33] And what it does, there's a whole lot of dynamics going on.

[00:16:36] One, it slows the class down for just a few minutes because it only takes 10, 12 minutes to do this whole process.

[00:16:42] The students find out what they know and they can ask questions to clarify things they don't know before going on.

[00:16:49] What we found out is this process, it brings in a whole other means now.

[00:16:54] Not only do they hear the information, now they write it, but they always end with the correct information.

[00:16:58] It's kind of like how we train on the athletic field.

[00:17:01] We only train for correctness.

[00:17:03] We don't train for failure or mediocrity.

[00:17:05] We train for the best you can do.

[00:17:08] And this is one of the processes we use in there.

[00:17:11] We use them several times throughout so the teacher see how this process is done,

[00:17:15] how to write a valid question on this exercise.

[00:17:20] So it's really, again, a disguise for repetition.

[00:17:23] We do level one testing, level two testing which are completely different what you find in some schools.

[00:17:29] But we do a lot of forms of disguise for repetitions.

[00:17:33] It gives people the students practice until they've had the repetition enough it's in their head.

[00:17:40] And then we work with them how to use this.

[00:17:43] So do you also teach people how to use this method that you've just described?

[00:17:49] Yes, we do. They only go through it but we teach the whole process.

[00:17:54] So is this what you're going to be doing in June at this particular conference?

[00:17:58] Yes, we will. We'll be doing all of that.

[00:18:01] And like we have a whole section on just the whole dynamics of Christian education.

[00:18:06] And that's one of our longer sections right in there.

[00:18:09] Do you think Christian education is failing today because when we look at some of the stats,

[00:18:17] we see that people are leaving church, young people are leaving the church.

[00:18:23] Kids are going off to college and they may be Christian.

[00:18:28] Even going off to sometimes Christian colleges and they're being derailed depending on the college

[00:18:36] because of what is being taught there. So what about that?

[00:18:40] I wouldn't say that Christian education is failing.

[00:18:43] I would say they can do a whole lot more than what they're doing right now.

[00:18:47] One of the unfortunate things is very few of our Christian schools have anybody that's qualified to teach apologetics.

[00:18:54] You don't find that in very many schools.

[00:18:57] The problem is our Christian universities don't do a very good job of teaching apologetics.

[00:19:02] What they teach too often is philosophy and the history of apologetics.

[00:19:06] That does not get you on the battlefield.

[00:19:09] Those type of questions I just went through like the days of creation,

[00:19:13] how could no fiddle with the creatures in the ark, all those kind of questions.

[00:19:17] They don't get those kind of things.

[00:19:19] But being out in the field all the time, I've spoken to over 500 churches and over 16,000 youth.

[00:19:25] These are the questions they're getting.

[00:19:27] They're not getting philosophical questions.

[00:19:29] They don't get questions about the history of apologetics.

[00:19:33] We need to do a better job and this is why we need more teachers out there.

[00:19:36] This is one of the reasons we hold this course.

[00:19:38] Teachers start it so they can see what needs to be taught in the Christian schools

[00:19:43] and start saying their teachers to be able to get well equipped to teach in the Christian schools.

[00:19:49] Very few Christian schools have this in there.

[00:19:53] This is a key thing.

[00:19:56] They don't know how to respond to the woke environment.

[00:19:59] They're getting slaughtered there.

[00:20:01] They're getting slaughtered on climate change.

[00:20:03] They can slaughter on evolutionism.

[00:20:06] We need to step up.

[00:20:09] This is about the fourth generation we're ready to lose now.

[00:20:13] Okay, Mike Riddle.

[00:20:15] We can make a difference.

[00:20:16] Can you stick with me another 15-minute segment?

[00:20:19] I have a few more questions.

[00:20:21] I want to ask you in the next segment because you mentioned the transgender type agenda

[00:20:29] that's being just forced down the throats of everybody right now.

[00:20:34] I think with Christians, people that will kind of go along with it

[00:20:41] because of something that I like to call false compassion,

[00:20:45] there's a compassion for people that are struggling.

[00:20:48] I would love to have you just give me some thoughts on that

[00:20:52] because I think that Christian educators across the board

[00:20:55] are trying to figure out how to deal with that particular issue.

[00:20:58] It just may be the issue of the day, but it's really a big one.

[00:21:01] And even Christians that I know, their grandchildren, their children

[00:21:06] are in schools and they're seeing this and they don't know how to deal with it.

[00:21:10] So maybe I can get some help and some guidance from you.

[00:21:13] And also we just want to talk a little bit more about the conference.

[00:21:16] Folks, if you want to ask Mike a question, 800-351-1212.

[00:21:21] This is Point of View, and we are talking again with Mike Riddle.

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[00:23:11] And now, here again is Pena Dexter.

[00:23:15] Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:23:17] My guest is Mike Riddle, and he runs the Creation Training Initiative.

[00:23:22] And I do want to point you back to the article about George Barna for a second at PointofView.net.

[00:23:28] There's also information there about the conference that's coming up in June,

[00:23:34] so you'll want to check that out that Mike will be running, but it's here in Dallas.

[00:23:41] But George Barna says that we are on the precipice of Christian invisibility in this nation

[00:23:49] and that we must get serious about this crisis and invest heavily in fixing what's broken.

[00:23:53] And I've noticed, Mike, in the last few years, you can really say as a Christian observing the culture

[00:24:00] that the Christian consensus is gone.

[00:24:03] We don't have a Christian consensus in this country, so people that are believers have to be strong.

[00:24:08] They have to understand what they believe, be able to communicate it, and be courageous.

[00:24:13] And I think, tell me if you disagree with any of that.

[00:24:18] Well, I agree 100% there. We do need pastors. I usually call them preachers now.

[00:24:23] This pastor has another connotation in there, they're there to protect the flock.

[00:24:27] But we have a lot of preachers, but enough pastors throughout their training their people how to engage the culture.

[00:24:34] That's one of the things we lost and you basically said it there.

[00:24:37] We no longer engage the culture.

[00:24:39] We've kind of hidden within our pulpits there and don't get out there enough.

[00:24:43] But that's why we're all from the scores. And if I could just say one quick thing here for Christian school teachers,

[00:24:48] when they come, they earn 19 continuing education units for this. That's half recertification right now.

[00:24:55] Wow. Okay. That's a good point. I'm glad you made it.

[00:24:59] And also we have enough donors. We're offering this three days full, three full days of training for $75.

[00:25:06] That's a steal these days.

[00:25:08] And you can get all his credits too. That's wonderful.

[00:25:13] But we're not engaging the culture and right now one of the big issues is this transgender.

[00:25:19] And we show in that that we have a whole section on just that.

[00:25:23] And we show that no matter what you dress up in whatever makeup you put on does not change your gender.

[00:25:29] And there's certain thing you cannot change whether you're XX or XY.

[00:25:34] You've got trillions of cells and you cannot change those.

[00:25:37] We show that the research is you have no matter what surgeries you have, you cannot change that.

[00:25:44] How much makeup you put on doesn't change you.

[00:25:47] We have also done all the research on this. The research that the transgender community uses is bogus.

[00:25:55] It's invalid for two reasons. One, they haven't had enough time to study anything come out of that reports.

[00:26:01] Then your population sampling was so small that even major groups out there saying this is not valid information.

[00:26:09] And then they see all the things they're using to intimidate our people.

[00:26:14] Their intervention methods, their surgeries that they find out the people have had those have a higher suicide rate afterwards.

[00:26:22] But the parents are told that your child is going to commit suicide unless they transition.

[00:26:28] That's totally bogus. That's a fear tactic.

[00:26:33] Absolute fear tactic.

[00:26:35] And then you're going to go back to the Bible.

[00:26:37] Both the Genesis, both the Genesis, the Bidicus, Romans and first critics all dress this issue directly.

[00:26:44] People say it's not in the Bible. It is.

[00:26:46] It comes right out and says this is an abomination, the testable act.

[00:26:51] It makes it very clear that homosexuality and all those are an abomination to God.

[00:26:57] So the Bible is very clear on this issue. It is anti-God, these issues.

[00:27:03] But we train you how to answer some of the big questions.

[00:27:07] Like why do you care so much in the first place?

[00:27:12] Can't you just leave us alone? Or you're not qualified to make those statements.

[00:27:16] I'm a woman trapped in a man's body. How to answer all those kind of questions in there?

[00:27:22] But we need to get trained teachers that want to come to a conference like this and get armed.

[00:27:29] And that's where we're really take us all over the country, this kind of teaching.

[00:27:33] We even have one day classes that will cover these individual topics.

[00:27:38] So we see it as a very important issue.

[00:27:41] You call it the transgender soup.

[00:27:45] So I noticed that there are Christians out there.

[00:27:50] Most people think it's just absurd to think that you could change your gender.

[00:27:54] But there are people who maybe they don't think you could change it, but they have so much,

[00:28:00] I guess it's compassion for people that are struggling.

[00:28:04] You said it's a very small number really, but it's gained so much attention.

[00:28:11] And so much of the psychological community and even the medical community now,

[00:28:16] they sort of funnel people in if they have a mental problem,

[00:28:20] they funnel people into considering whether it's a gender problem or a gender dysphoria problem.

[00:28:26] So it's just like the go-to remedy right now, which is I hope we get over this in our culture pretty soon.

[00:28:35] There was this cast report that came out in Great Britain that kind of debunks the really the wisdom

[00:28:42] of funneling these kids there and wants to give them a more holistic type of treatment

[00:28:49] and just analysis of these kids.

[00:28:52] So I hope that takes hold, but right now you just have so much pressure

[00:28:57] from so many professional organizations to funnel kids into trying to work on their gender

[00:29:04] or change it or maybe to consider whether they're in the wrong body.

[00:29:07] So I just feel that it's a false compassion.

[00:29:12] What do you think about that?

[00:29:13] Yes, there's three things that have killed the church today.

[00:29:16] One is what you're talking about, tolerance, apathy and silence.

[00:29:20] Those three things have killed the church.

[00:29:22] And that's why we no longer engage the culture.

[00:29:25] We've tolerated too much.

[00:29:27] The Bible says we're not to tolerate sin.

[00:29:29] That's what this is, this whole thing of this transgenderism.

[00:29:32] It is sin.

[00:29:33] We need to bring it back to them.

[00:29:35] And it's not the only sin.

[00:29:37] Everybody is a sinner, but they need to know that they're lost and they need a savior.

[00:29:44] They need to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ.

[00:29:47] That's one of the most important things that God sent his only begotten Son because we're all sinners.

[00:29:52] This is your only hope to get out of this type of situation is repent

[00:29:58] and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

[00:30:01] They need to hear that, but we need to know how to answer their questions along the way

[00:30:06] because they're going to try and use the Bible too.

[00:30:09] They're going to say, well, God may be this way.

[00:30:12] Well, yes, we're made an image life with God, but we're all sinners

[00:30:16] and yours is not the only sin.

[00:30:18] Everybody's a sinner and this is what you need and what everybody else needs.

[00:30:22] They're going to try and target their sin as the only major one we're focusing on.

[00:30:26] No, we're focusing on all sins.

[00:30:29] Everybody's a sinner.

[00:30:30] So that's one of the things, but this tolerance.

[00:30:33] We've got to stop tolerating sin and stand firm.

[00:30:36] And you mentioned at the beginning we need church leaders with boldness and courage.

[00:30:41] We don't have enough of that in the churches.

[00:30:44] There's too much silence and too much apathy.

[00:30:47] Mike, one more aspect of the, you just touched on a bit of your conference

[00:30:52] that I wanted people to know is you also, you really are about helping Sunday schools

[00:30:58] and Sunday school teachers.

[00:31:00] Those people have a lot of influence and they can be an important tool.

[00:31:05] So you give them tools to make disciples, right?

[00:31:09] Yes, we do.

[00:31:10] Tell us a little bit about that.

[00:31:12] We talk about one of the things I talk about, we actually have a whole course that covers this,

[00:31:16] is how to set up a winning Sunday school program.

[00:31:20] And all the research I've done, the number one issue if you want to energize your Sunday school program

[00:31:27] is invest in your teachers.

[00:31:30] Make sure they know how to teach, make sure they know their subject.

[00:31:35] Don't just send in their information givers, which we mostly have

[00:31:38] and everybody walks out hearing a lot of information.

[00:31:41] Let's apply what we learned in the Sunday school program there.

[00:31:45] In other words, cut back on everything you teach

[00:31:48] and spend maybe 35 minutes giving information

[00:31:51] and the other 25 practicing what you just learned.

[00:31:55] That's kind of a foreign concept to the church today.

[00:31:58] They just want to give information where they can use it or not, doesn't seem to matter.

[00:32:03] So we talk about how to set up a winning Sunday school program.

[00:32:06] In other words, we have a one-day course that covers all the communication and teaching skills

[00:32:10] called Dynamics at Christian Education.

[00:32:13] That's when we take all over the country

[00:32:15] and we'll go anywhere to teach these courses.

[00:32:17] We don't have to.

[00:32:19] And our courses are not big bucks.

[00:32:21] We lose money every time we go out

[00:32:24] and we rely on God to help us.

[00:32:27] Well, Mike, just tell people, I mean,

[00:32:30] I do have everything linked at pointofview.net

[00:32:34] if people want to find out or sign up for the conference coming up in June

[00:32:38] at the Institute for Creation Research is where you're having it.

[00:32:43] But tell us, give us a website in case people just want to go directly there

[00:32:47] that they can sign up.

[00:32:49] Okay, they can go to our website creationtraining.org

[00:32:52] all one word creationtraining.org

[00:32:55] You have a homepage that will have an icon there.

[00:32:57] You click on that and it'll take you to the page.

[00:32:59] You get to see all the information and how to register.

[00:33:02] Okay, creationtraining.org or go to pointofview.net.

[00:33:07] Mike Riddle, thank you so much for what you're doing.

[00:33:10] You're obviously performing a wonderful service,

[00:33:13] making disciples and then teaching them how to make disciples.

[00:33:16] But it goes so much deeper than that.

[00:33:18] So ladies and gentlemen, I just wanted to give you a picture today

[00:33:21] here on Point of View of what Mike Riddle and his group is doing

[00:33:25] and also give you an opportunity because you could be in one any of these roles.

[00:33:29] Sunday School teacher, teacher, pastor, student, college student,

[00:33:34] all of those are welcome at the conference.

[00:33:36] Again, go to pointofview.net

[00:33:38] and we'll be back for another segment of Point of View.

[00:33:41] Mike, God bless you and thanks so much for joining me.

[00:33:44] You're listening to Point of View.

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[00:34:03] Thanks for sticking with us here on Point of View.

[00:34:05] I'm Pena Dexter and last Friday on our weekend edition,

[00:34:09] Kelly Kirby and I talked about an article that was in the Wall Street Journal

[00:34:13] called Rural Radical Rules for Campus Radicals,

[00:34:18] sort of a la Salalinsky.

[00:34:20] And it was a good piece in the Wall Street Journal.

[00:34:22] It was kind of shocking to show how many people in these protests

[00:34:27] on the college campuses are not actually college students.

[00:34:31] They're sometimes professionals, people that are paid to do this,

[00:34:35] people that go around and get involved in protests,

[00:34:38] people that are funded by George Soros

[00:34:40] and the Rockefeller Foundation all of the above.

[00:34:43] So that was an interesting piece.

[00:34:45] I just wanted to follow up and this is going to have to be a very short treatment

[00:34:48] because we don't have a lot of time before the end of the program

[00:34:51] but the free press over the weekend came out with an article

[00:34:55] about the micro infantata.

[00:34:57] American protesters are being trained in militancy.

[00:35:00] I may, I'll be hosting on Friday again

[00:35:03] so I may put this up on the website then

[00:35:06] and talk about it at greater length

[00:35:08] because what it really is is guides

[00:35:12] that are being created by radical groups

[00:35:15] teaching pro-Palestinian students to use violence on campus.

[00:35:19] And you know we've been finding out more and more

[00:35:21] about the funding of the protests

[00:35:24] when you see all the tents that are alike,

[00:35:27] you see that they're equipped with food,

[00:35:30] they're equipped with lots of other things

[00:35:33] which are included in this article to help them in their protesting.

[00:35:37] And this article at the free press says

[00:35:40] students participating in the Gaza Solidarity encampments

[00:35:44] at universities across the country

[00:35:46] are being taught to become militants

[00:35:49] according to nine manuals obtained by the free press.

[00:35:53] The free press is kind of a new publication

[00:35:56] Barry Weiss who used to be an editor at the New York Times

[00:35:59] started it and they actually do investigative reporting

[00:36:04] so they're finding out a lot of these things

[00:36:06] and they found these nine manuals.

[00:36:08] Many of the manuals says the free press

[00:36:10] which are being shared by a phone group

[00:36:12] chats with students across the country

[00:36:14] encourage militancy and instruct protesters

[00:36:17] to break laws, seize buildings, vandalize them

[00:36:21] and then use tactics to evade police detection and arrest.

[00:36:26] So there's one guide, it's called the de-arrest primer.

[00:36:30] It teaches protesters to physically resist arrest

[00:36:33] or in some cases assault police officers

[00:36:36] or throw projectiles at them

[00:36:38] to protect fellow comrades from arrest.

[00:36:41] So you can see here we've got this lethal combination

[00:36:44] I don't know if it's lethal but violent combination

[00:36:48] of people that are professionals that are coming in

[00:36:51] to be part of the protests, anti-Semitism in this case

[00:36:56] and then you have students who've been educated

[00:37:00] mostly at fairly liberal institutions, some very elite

[00:37:05] so these kids feel a little bit like they are smarter

[00:37:09] than everybody else and they're coming in

[00:37:12] they're protesting Israel

[00:37:15] they're trying to uphold the Palestinians

[00:37:17] even the ones that are terrorists

[00:37:20] and so they have these primers

[00:37:23] and they're teaching, they're using all these tactics

[00:37:26] but they're also teaching a whole bunch of students

[00:37:29] at some of the schools it's like half of the people

[00:37:31] out there protesting are not students

[00:37:33] and the other half are

[00:37:35] but the students are learning how to use

[00:37:37] all of these methods and these basically weapons.

[00:37:42] So you have the de-arrest primer

[00:37:44] each de-arrest the guide says is a microinfatata

[00:37:47] which can spread and inspire others

[00:37:49] until we may finally shake off this noxious ruling altogether

[00:37:53] so it's really against all of society and authority

[00:37:57] not just against Israel or Jews.

[00:38:01] It's bad enough, the anti-Semitism is bad enough

[00:38:05] but it's morphing into something greater

[00:38:07] or maybe something greater inspired it.

[00:38:10] Another manual is called the do-it-yourself occupation guide

[00:38:14] it contains detailed diagrams on how to break into buildings

[00:38:17] using tools like crowbars, clamps, metal cables,

[00:38:22] chains, bolt cutters and a miniature saw

[00:38:25] called an angle grinder

[00:38:27] and there are pictures and descriptions of all these tools

[00:38:31] and you can imagine that some of these groups

[00:38:34] that are funding these protests

[00:38:36] are actually paying for the tools

[00:38:38] and providing them so people can use them

[00:38:41] so the angle grinder can be used to cut through locks, bolts and chains

[00:38:45] they also have cordless models, obviously preferable

[00:38:49] they're noisy and time consuming

[00:38:51] but they are reliable and capable

[00:38:53] bolt cutters are also one of the tools

[00:38:56] they're used to clip padlocks, lockboxes or fencing

[00:39:00] and the 18 inch length this says

[00:39:04] will perform most tasks well

[00:39:06] fit discreetly in a backpack or messenger bag

[00:39:09] so they can carry these things, these tools

[00:39:12] into the group, into the protest

[00:39:15] and now you can see how they got into

[00:39:18] Hamilton Hall at Columbia University

[00:39:22] or other places and other schools across the country

[00:39:25] because they're being provided with the tools

[00:39:28] instructions from the do-it-yourself occupation guide

[00:39:31] which was shared 24 hours after Columbia protesters

[00:39:35] broke into Hamilton Hall, this is what's provided in this article

[00:39:39] if you want to find it, it's at the free press

[00:39:43] but I think we'll try to talk about this a little bit more on Friday

[00:39:47] so I'll post it then

[00:39:49] the guide says you can use some less destructive methods

[00:39:53] like blocking things with furniture

[00:39:56] or you can use more aggressive methods

[00:39:59] like crowbars to open windows

[00:40:02] teachings from the do-it-yourself occupation guide

[00:40:05] which is written by organizers of the Occupy Wall Street movement

[00:40:09] but then they saw the need to update it this year in 2024

[00:40:13] in light of a, well I guess you could describe this

[00:40:16] as a nationwide resurgence of student occupations

[00:40:20] but many of these techniques that were employed

[00:40:23] were employed by Columbia students on Tuesday night

[00:40:25] when they stormed Hamilton Hall

[00:40:27] which is an administrative building at the heart of the university

[00:40:30] they smashed through the windows of the Hall's main door with hammers

[00:40:34] they used metal chains to lock them shut

[00:40:37] after cops arrested 119 people on Columbia campus

[00:40:41] they discovered multiple glass doors had been broken

[00:40:43] and barricaded using chairs

[00:40:46] so I guess the chairs were the less drastic methods

[00:40:50] the breaking of the doors were the more drastic methods

[00:40:53] they also used refrigerators, vending machines

[00:40:56] to block doors

[00:40:58] but it's just amazing to think of the arrogance of the students

[00:41:02] just defacing these beautiful school buildings

[00:41:07] to make their liberal leftist radical points

[00:41:13] of the 282 people arrested on Tuesday night

[00:41:17] between Columbia and City College of New York

[00:41:20] 48% are not affiliated with either university

[00:41:23] according to the NYPD

[00:41:25] I will say the NYPD is now very well aware

[00:41:29] that they have a huge problem

[00:41:31] the mayor Eric Adams said at a press conference Wednesday

[00:41:34] it's a global problem young people are being influenced

[00:41:37] by those who are professionals at radicalizing our children

[00:41:41] and he said I'm not going to allow that to happen

[00:41:43] as the mayor of New York

[00:41:45] let's hope not and let's hope that mayors across the country

[00:41:48] in some of the other cities where there are schools

[00:41:51] where people who are not being able to see the light

[00:41:56] and say that they're not going to allow that to happen

[00:41:59] and also let's hope that our department of justice

[00:42:02] begins to perhaps pay attention

[00:42:07] provide some persuasion to these cities to take care of this

[00:42:11] but at least as I said at least half the people are professionals

[00:42:15] and we are creating more well educated

[00:42:18] anarchists and radicals on campuses across America

[00:42:22] who knew at the beginning of 2024

[00:42:25] that this is what we were going to be dealing with

[00:42:28] but it is so we need to be aware

[00:42:31] and we will continue that discussion later

[00:42:34] but ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for joining me today

[00:42:37] tomorrow I believe Buddy Matthews will be your host

[00:42:40] as Kirby is out speaking

[00:42:42] and then you'll have the millennial round table

[00:42:45] later in the week we'll have a weekend edition

[00:42:48] I'll be hosting on Friday so that's the week

[00:42:51] for you here on Point of View

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