Vote Out Activist Judges, Utah's Super Law Crisis, and Soros Dark Money Exposed | 11-02-26

[00:00:04] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Vote against judges whenever you get the chance, ladies and gentlemen. It's always making sense. Yes, on an Amendment B in Utah, who's making billions from the Iran War?

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[00:01:02] All right, let's talk about this. We mentioned it last week. Vote no on Judge Jill Pullman. She basically promoted pro-death, pretty much doesn't respect life. I don't even know what a judge does in that scenario, Lowell, because the whole purpose of government is to protect life, isn't it? And a judge not getting that reality check? I don't know how to speak for her, sir. Well, I don't know how either, Sam.

[00:01:31] You know, they take this idea that a woman's right to her body, I mean, that's what they claim. And so they weigh the life of the innocent and born against the rights of the mother to have a right to her own body. And I guess they, I don't know, in some twisted way, think that the mother's right to her own body supersedes the child's right to life.

[00:01:59] I don't understand it either, but I think that's the twisted reasoning that they use. I haven't read the case myself. I just know the impact of her decision. When she was on the Utah Supreme Court, it was a four-to-one decision to defer to planned parenthood and to the right of the mother to her own body versus the right of the unborn to live.

[00:02:24] She is the only judge on the Supreme Court right now, I believe, of the original four that were pro-death. I might be wrong on that, but anyway, we need to get her off. And like you said, Sam, I vote no on all the judges. Unless I have a really good reason to vote yes, I will vote no on every single one of them.

[00:02:46] And I hope that our voters here in Utah will certainly do that too, and especially the vote against Judge Jill Pullman. Does not deserve a place on the bench, in my opinion. And anybody who agrees with Planned Parenthood on this should not be a judge in the judiciary here in Utah. Especially when pro-life is the stance of America.

[00:03:13] The whole purpose in the Constitution is to protect life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And this is just the opposite of that. Now, most people in the past have kind of said, oh, judges, just leave them alone, retain them or whatever else. But we really learned, you know, forget the polarization of President Trump for a second, Lowell.

[00:03:34] The fact of the matter is we really realized how interfering and lawfare-ish, I don't know if those are words, but there you go, that these judges can really be. We've really seen that over the last several years since he's been president. We've seen the media and their belligerent agenda, how they, you know, they say we report, you decide. Or they act like they're above partisan politics and they just report the news. We've found out that's just a manipulated lie.

[00:04:00] And we've also found out the judges are way, way, way more manipulative and political than we thought. And that's why, unless you know a judge and you know they're a good judge because you've seen great things come from them, then you need to vote against them. And this is another interesting thing. President Trump has done a lot of good things in many ways, but the judges have blocked them at every turn. And it, you know, it takes one president, but it's, you know, thousands of judges across the country. You know, one of them just seems to pop up whatever it matters against anything that makes any sense a lot of times.

[00:04:29] Now, sometimes I agree with the judges. I'm just saying a lot of times they're never Trumpers and they get so extreme. The sad part about this is, you know, most people don't realize how political they become. But when push comes to shove, that's what they do. Forget the law. They stand and become activist judges and commit this lawfare, which is problematic. And so unless you can show me something solid and good this judge has done, I'm inclined just to vote them out. Give somebody else a try.

[00:04:54] And if we had the turnover, you know, the longer judges, just like politicians, the longer they're there, the more protected they feel, the more they built up kind of a moat around themselves to protect themselves from ever getting impeached or removed or have any repercussions for their actions. And they kind of seem to be above the law. You know, the judges kind of they don't say, oh, I have to follow the law. They're like, I am the law. And this is the problem that we see. And that's why we want to spend so much time on it, Lowell.

[00:05:20] So people really begin to understand, hey, you know, just because they've been silent in the background, don't fool yourself, Lowell. Yeah. And we don't have a lot of people watching the judges and the decisions they make, you know, like we do the legislators. I mean, fortunately, we do have groups like the New American Magazine. I know that they watch the voting records of every member of Congress, all 535 members.

[00:05:49] And they also monitor the votes of all the state legislators now in all 50 states, which I think is a wonderful service that they are providing. And there are some watchdog groups. I know that here in Utah, there's a group called Utah Grassroots. And they also score each one of the legislators, all 104 state legislators.

[00:06:16] But we don't really have a lot of groups who are scoring judges on their opinions and the impact of their opinions. Now, I do believe there are some groups that, I mean, it's becoming more apparent now. And so I think there are some groups that are trying to do that. But it's a tall order to monitor all the decisions they make because they, I mean, a judge will have, you know, a day in court.

[00:06:44] They might handle, you know, 20, 30, 40 cases as they get run through the system. The courtroom has become a money-making business, really, for communities and for the judiciary and for the law enforcement. I mean, there's lots of ways that this money can be returned to the law enforcement arm, you know, police agencies and so forth,

[00:07:12] through civil asset forfeitures where judges will just make a decision in favor of the police department when opposed to, you know, $30,000 of cash. I mean, those civil asset forfeit cases, there are many, many dozens of those that come through every year. And then, you know, one in, I think it's two in 100 cases actually go to trial.

[00:07:40] It's like 98% of our cases are plea-bargained away so that they never actually go to trial. So how can you judge what a judge is doing when all of this plea bargaining is going on? You know, so it's very difficult to judge the justice that a judge supposedly meets out or doesn't meet out. I think that's just some of the problems involved in this.

[00:08:07] But when we have such a clear-cut decision rendered by a judge for death over life, I just think it's, you know, it's reason enough to get rid of them. And that's why I'm voting no on all of the judges up for retention in the election this year in Utah. And I hope that our voters here in Utah will do so as well. And I hope people across the country really realize we've got to start putting the spotlight on judges.

[00:08:36] Again, like or dislike Trump, that's one thing we've really kind of learned that, hey, we need to keep an eye on these people. It's our duty, ladies and gentlemen. All right, vote yes on Amendment B for the state of Utah. This comes to us from utahtaxvote.com. Well, yeah, this is another local issue, Sam. And I apologize to your listeners who are not in Utah. I don't because the judges are important to talk about across the nation.

[00:09:01] And then this is important to talk across the nation, too, because, you know, they may have similar things in their area. And what people need to realize is all these local municipalities have these nuances that you've got to keep a finger on the pulse of. And I think most people don't really realize, Lowell. Well, that's a good point. And it is true that there's an association of legislators that produces bills, and they send these model bills, these model legislation out to all the states.

[00:09:31] And so you get the same verbiage many times in many states. And this Amendment B in Utah is very similar, I mean, to that. I mean, it's a response to what's been happening because there are what we should call these, I guess, dark money liberal groups that want to change the laws in your state.

[00:09:54] And they want to change the laws in Utah because Utah, just two years ago, in 2024, the Utah Supreme Court made this ruling, this decision, that a citizen's initiative is law that could not be changed by the legislature. I know that sounds weird because we have supposedly a Republican form of government here in Utah where the legislators who are elected by the people,

[00:10:24] you know, they're the ones in charge of all legislation. And yet the Utah Supreme Court said that they can't touch legislation that was passed by citizen initiatives.

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[00:12:41] I'm riding shotgun this morning with your host, Sam Bushman, here on Liberty RoundTable Podcast. We're talking about this Amendment B here in Utah. And we're postulating that you might have something similar in your state. I know Utah has a target painted on its back because of this Supreme Court decision, this Utah Supreme Court decision of 2024,

[00:13:09] that a citizen initiative that is approved, well, it becomes law that the legislature may not touch. They may not change. A super law, in effect. So imagine a law that the legislative body didn't make that they can't change, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's under the guise of a citizen initiative. Now, in Utah, we have... Citizens don't make law, sir. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Citizens don't make law in the United States. That's not how it works.

[00:13:40] That's not the way it's supposed to work, Sam. Correct. All right, go ahead. I'm just making this point. I want people to understand. And I know we think, well, wait a minute. We delegated authority to them, and so we can do what we want. No, if we delegated authority to them and put all lawmaking authority with them, there's a reason. It has to do with a constitutional representative republic, not a democracy, not a mob rule, not a let's bend viewpoints and votes and everything else with money or finances or promises of whatever.

[00:14:06] However, there's a delegated responsibility on purpose because these people are supposed to take the time to measure everything they do against the supreme law of the land, the constitution on the general level and the state constitution on the state level. And that's what they're supposed to be doing, and that's why we believe a representative republic or a delegated authority is so important because those people are supposed to spend the time. Otherwise, I might as well do it myself, right? But they're supposed to... I'm supposed to vote for the guy that would do what I would do if I were there.

[00:14:33] And this is the part that's missing, and they're playing us against our legislative bodies, Lowell. Yeah, that's right. Well said. You know, in fact, there are two kinds of citizen-led efforts in Utah that are on the books. One is initiative where citizens can pass a law, and then there's a referendum where citizens can nullify some legislative decision.

[00:15:02] They can nullify a bad law, for example. Now, I've been party to a referendum, and I've also been party to an initiative. I don't like running initiatives because I don't believe in democracy. And the Supreme Court decision in 2024 tilted Utah toward a democracy, which is a horrible system, a system that the founders soundly rejected.

[00:15:31] You cannot find the word democracy in any of our founding documents in this country. And our public servants, they should be able to change any law that's on the books, even though, you know, even if they do so, they might anger some constituents. In fact, I'm thinking of about 25 years ago when there was a civil asset forfeiture initiative that barred basically as an initiative where the citizens said, we are not going to have civil asset forfeiture in this state.

[00:16:01] And that passed, and then a couple years later, the legislature reversed that law and made it legal again. So we, again, now have civil asset forfeiture in Utah. Now, I was angry at the legislature for doing that, but I recognize that having super laws is worse. And how's it worse?

[00:16:25] Well, it's worse because a citizen's initiative can get passed by a simple majority. If the citizens, you know, vote for it by a simple majority, it becomes law of the land. It becomes a super law now since 2024, since two years ago decision that the Utah Supreme Court made. And if you have a super law that you can't, that the legislature cannot change, you know, that might satisfy a small group that wants an initiative passed.

[00:16:55] But I think we're making ourselves an open target to become a democracy because dark liberal money from outside the state will run an issue, and it'll be positioned and framed as though citizens want it, but it'll be funded by liberal dark money from the outside. Right. And so they'll also be very short when they talk to people about this,

[00:17:22] and they'll go to like the front of the store and tell people about it and knock on your door, run ads in newspapers, the list goes on and on and on. And they'll have a very skewed view of whatever it is their agenda is to promote or reject for that matter. So whatever side they're on will get carte blanche backing, and the rest will be, for the most part, silent. And that's the problem with it, Lowell, is that we don't get real stories. People aren't really caught up on the complete details of something to make a fully informed vote.

[00:17:52] Right. They'll call it a citizen's initiative when, in fact, none of the Utah citizens wanted it in the beginning or in the first place. But the outside organization is the one that is promoting it. Now, you can know, it's important to know who is opposing this Amendment B because, and this comes from the website, this vote tax, I'm sorry, Utahtaxvote.com.

[00:18:21] I'm just going to quote them this one sentence here. It says,

[00:18:47] Now, the largest contributor, Sam, is the Fairness Project with over $1.6 million in donations. Unite America at $200,000 and the National Education Association at $150,000. Well, it turns out that George Soros founded and financed Open Society. And if you look at the returns from Open Society Action Fund,

[00:19:13] at least $68.15 million went to the 1630 Fund, this National Progressive Funding Hub that is funding this opposition to Amendment B. 1630 separately reported at least $2.73 million to the Fairness Project, plus grants to the Utah Donor Collaborative and to Better Boundaries right here in Utah.

[00:19:40] And Better Boundaries is the Utah organization that skewed the congressional boundaries. They're the ones that oppose the legislative bill that set the four congressional boundaries here in Utah. They skewed them in a way that we now have a donut in Utah. I'm sorry, in Utah centered around Salt Lake County. And then the other three congressional districts in the more rural comprising the rest of Utah.

[00:20:08] Right. But they did that to get a Democrat elected in Utah instead of four Republicans when less than 10 percent of Utah is Democrat. And yet they get better boundaries, gets this donut-shaped congressional district in the middle of Salt Lake. And gerrymandering to the oomph degree is the bottom line rule.

[00:20:32] This is the problem is that it's being used against the voters who don't follow the details enough to be fully informed on this. And what they're doing is they're basically playing games. The Republicans are kind of told to go along and say, hey, you got to kind of let this happen because, you know, you got to share power with the Democrats. And, you know, otherwise it's just a one-party system. And that's right. Not fair. Not fair to the people. But what you've got is a Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

[00:20:58] You've got the left and right wings of the same bird of prey, literally a uniparty masquerading as a duopoly. But the reality is Americans shouldn't even have parties for that matter. But what they've managed to do is gerrymandered themselves with all this dark money. And what they will do is change laws, change laws, change laws. And what they'll do is they'll basically eventually, if they got their way in full, it would completely take the legislative authority out of the hands of the legislators. Well, that's what would really happen over time.

[00:21:27] And it's the liberal dark money organizations that are trying to do this all over the country. Utah is not alone in this, and that's why we're talking about this. But you probably, you know, if you live in Arkansas or Tennessee or Maine or Hawaii, Alaska, some other state, you know, you've probably got this kind of activity going on in your state as well.

[00:21:52] This dark money is being used to fund local candidates and local issues in your state so that they can grab power, because, you know, the most important political activity is local political activity. And so you have – I know we've got it here in Utah, Sam. We've got, for example, Utah County Clerks race.

[00:22:15] We had a great Utah County Clerk, but he got beaten in the primary by a signature gathering candidate who is funded by just, you know, 10 to 1 funding over the citizen-supported candidate, Aaron Davidson, for County Clerk here in Utah County.

[00:22:36] And so now we don't have a good, you know, option here in Utah County for County Clerk because of that, this dark money. All this liberal money came in to fund the good guy, to fund the opponent to the good guy. So it's probably happening in your state, wherever you live, folks. So watch out for this. You've got to follow the money.

[00:23:00] Find out where the money comes from that's funding this opposition to, you know, good people in your state or to good measures in your state. Sam? Coming to the bottom of the hour, ladies and gentlemen, we've got all kinds of news the network refused to use for you. We've only been able to cover two out of six subjects we had that we wanted to cover. But one of the interesting things is, you know, Ron Paul, we'll be talking about him next, by the way.

[00:23:28] But Ron Paul was known as Dr. No in Congress because he would stop them from all their out-of-control shenanigans to steal power, to spend money, to go to war, to violate liberties and violate the Constitution left and right. And he earned the nickname Dr. No. I thought it was an incredible name and a well-deserving name. Well, now Donald Trump, you know, he's famous for giving people names. He's giving himself a new name. I don't know if you've ever heard of it, but he's giving himself a new name.

[00:23:56] It's not going to be President Donald J. Trump anymore. It'll be Mr. Vito. That's right. He wants to call himself Mr. Vito because he says if we lose the midterms, he'll be known as Mr. Vito, shutting down all their clown-style agendas. And I kind of find that fascinating. I hope he can stick to his guns on that. But when we get back, we've got an incredible column from Dr. No. We're going to talk about Lowell Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org, doing a phenomenal job.

[00:24:20] As always, Campaign for Liberty is one of the premier trusted organizations across the country standing for the sacred cause of liberty. I'm delighted to be partnering with them on this broadcast. Again, Lowell Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org. I'm Sam Bushman. Back in seconds. God save our constitutional republic.