Sheriff Mack on the $40 Trillion Debt Crisis, Federal Reserve, and America's Breaking Point | 09-02-26
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Sheriff Mack on the $40 Trillion Debt Crisis, Federal Reserve, and America's Breaking Point | 09-02-26

Sheriff Richard Mack joins the Liberty RoundTable to expose how both parties have failed America. From a staggering $40 trillion national debt to the Federal Reserve's looming interest rate hikes, the hosts break down why the economy is on the edge. They dig into Republican complicity in drifting left, the IRS whistleblower crisis, extreme heat threats to the power grid, and Trump's controversial renaming of Lake Ontario to Lake America. Plus, why state sovereignty and constitutional principles matter now more than ever. Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro: Liberty Roundtable Radio Show 0:20 - The Democrat Murder of America book discussion 1:12 - House passes funding bill, no spending cuts 2:23 - Republicans chasing the Democrat Party leftward 3:51 - Secret combinations and societies in charge 4:17 - Federal Reserve signals more interest rate hikes 5:42 - Gas prices and Venezuela oil reality check 6:21 - Governor Hochul, New York, and the nanny state 7:33 - Founders, constitutional currency, and state sovereignty 8:13 - America is practically bankrupt at $40 trillion 9:31 - Fort Knox gold audit questions 10:28 - Extreme heat and US power grid blackout risk 12:03 - Terrorist threats to grid and water supplies 12:51 - Emergency preparedness resources 15:33 - IRS audits down under Trump, but reform still needed 17:35 - IRS whistleblower abuse and Ken Cromar case 19:46 - Trump renames Lake Ontario to Lake America 20:18 - The history of the name Lake Ontario 22:36 - National debt, inflation, and closing thoughts Call to Action: Become a member of the CSPOA today at CSPOA.org to access the weekly Wednesday webinar, where Sheriff Mack takes your questions live. Get Sheriff Mack's book "The Democrat Murder of America" at murderofamerica.com. For emergency preparedness guides and kits, visit prepstartsnow.com. Watch Liberty Roundtable Live on YouTube, Rumble, BitChute, X, and libertyroundtable.com. Spread the word and God save our constitutional republic.

[00:00:04] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, the good Sheriff, Sheriff Mack is with me, Richard Mack, with his incredible book, The Democrat Murderer of America. If you really read the book, though, it doesn't only attack Democrats, ladies and gentlemen, it attacks parties.

[00:00:32] It attacks those Republicans that don't stand up against communism and socialism. And the fact is they're getting more radical by the day and must be stopped. A lot of the conservative, to some degree, moderate, whatever you want to call it, even semi-liberal Democrats are against the extreme radical stuff as well. And they don't know what to do. So what they're doing is quietly trying to not get in the way. You know, you stand in the middle of traffic with indecision and you get hit by traffic going both directions, right?

[00:00:59] And so they're trying to avoid all that. What they're trying to do is just say, well, we're not going to go against it publicly, but we're going to do our best to make sure that our big funders don't really fund it. The problem is that's backfiring because the radical extremes are getting elected like nobody's business. It is insane. So anyway, I'll just make this interesting side note. The House now passes the funding bill designed to prevent another government shutdown.

[00:01:27] They want to prevent that. The House approved what they call temporary government funding through December the 11th. It was, I guess, a 370 to 48 vote. And the Senate has already approved the measure. So now it's going to the Donald. It's going to Trump. So they avoided the shutdown. But the problem is now they're going to take it up right at Christmas time, Sheriff. They're just unwise and they didn't cut any funding. They didn't, you know, do it. They just passed it like status quo stuff.

[00:01:55] We're $40 trillion in debts or that's not what you do at this stage of the game. It let, again, guys like me go, the Republicans stand for nothing. Yeah. The problem that really scares me about the Republicans right now is that they have a historical habit of continuously chasing after the Democrat Party.

[00:02:22] So the more left the Democrats have moved, the Republicans keep inching that way because they feel like, oh, why do Republicans, and you mentioned Mitt Romney before, but even more even mainstream than Mitt Romney because he was way left. And that's how he became the governor of Massachusetts, of all places. And he, so to have that job, he had to do that.

[00:02:50] But the Republican Party has a history of doing that. When I first ran for sheriff in Utah County in 1998, the Republican Party was still saying we are the party of principle. And I told him, yeah, I just have to laugh. I know, because I told him then, I said, well, you tried to be once and you used to be, but the Ronald Reagan days are over.

[00:03:20] And, oh, they just worshiped Ronald Reagan. And they said, if you really look at Ronald Reagan, he wasn't exactly who you thought he was either. And I loved Reagan because he was so charismatic and he was bold. He was incredibly charismatic. And I also, you know, truly believe that he did what he could. You know, I think when he got shot the first time, it sent a real message, you know. Well, but you got to remember, he was only in office two and a half months when he got shot. Right.

[00:03:49] So he got straightened out right away. And so it's just mind-blowing how the secret combinations and secret societies really are in charge of what's going on in the world. And speaking of incredible, you know, secret combinations and secret societies and everything else, this secret society is hidden in plain sight, but the damage done, I don't know that people realize.

[00:04:16] Federal Reserve Chair Kevin Warsh signals that interest rate hikes may be needed. Warsh said that inflation remains too high and the feds may need to raise interest rates in the coming months. Seth, how does that make any sense? How does that make any sense? So you have inflation and inflation's going up.

[00:04:42] So to counter inflation going up, you want to charge more for loans. Interest rates want to go up. How does that make any sense? The September meetings is where they're going to decide a lot of this, right? Yeah. Well, they will. But Sam, this is just evidence again that the Federal Reserve is not part of the United States government. They were supposed to be, but they're not. That's right. They're not. And that's the problem.

[00:05:11] And I appreciate President Trump, you know, pushing back on this. But at the same time, you know, I don't think we should have a government controlling interest rates or a Federal Reserve or anybody else, a banking cartel. I think interest rates ought to have their natural play. And if people are, you know, feeling like, hey, interest rates are too high, then homeowners can start, you know, providing the loans to other people. I mean, there's a lot of ways that you can go against this. But if the Federal Reserve increases interest rates at the September meeting, it's going to add insult to injury on the economy.

[00:05:41] Gas prices are going up. Now, Trump says Venezuela is going to bring the gas prices down. He's got control of the Strait of Hormos, so they're going to go down. But experts are saying it's not going to happen very quickly at all, whether we can retool in America, whether we can, you know, reform what's going on in Venezuela. There's a lot of work that needs to be done before we can really pull oil out of there. I mean, we're years away from a real solution, the experts say. I don't know the truth. We'll just have to watch. But I don't think gas prices are going down soon. That's for sure.

[00:06:11] No, they go up fast, but they go down very slow. That's the same with the stock market because they have the Pledge Protection Team and everything else to prevent it. Yeah, there's too much money in it. And the people that are in charge of making it go down want to keep the money flowing into their own bank accounts. But Sam, earlier in the news at the top of the hour, the news talked about Governor Hochul in New York,

[00:06:39] how she was complaining and assailing President Trump for cutting back funds because they're a blue state. And Trump's always trying to extract revenge against the blue states. Sam, why don't they listen to us and join the show sometime and realize that New York, Governor Hochul, New York should take care of New York and not depend on being part of the nanny state in Washington, D.C.

[00:07:08] Well, there was never an attempt from the founding fathers to where the states were supposed to be propped up by the feds in the first place. If you change the feds down with constitutional currency, gold and silver, and you jettison this fake money creation tool called the Federal Reserve that Elon Musk over at Doge said there's money machines everywhere, and now we haven't heard a word about it since. But look, this has got to stop. And until we get rid of the secret combinations of the Federal Reserve, it won't stop. But look, the states were supposed to have balanced budgets.

[00:07:39] The federal government was supposed to balance its own budget. They were supposed to be autonomous. That was a sovereignty play. And I think the founders kind of miscalculated in the sense that they felt like people would jealously guard their sovereignty. And I guess for, you know, if you're a politician and you promise everybody a free sucker, then they'll go, you know, go for it, I guess. Right? Well, exactly. But that's exactly what we're talking about. And we're already out of money, Governor.

[00:08:05] Well, the United States of America, in all practicality, is bankrupt. You don't go to $40 trillion. It's been since like 1934, right? Yeah. Well, perhaps. But right now it's even worse because we're $40 trillion. That's actual money, not money that's been progressively.

[00:08:33] Of all the other things that we owe, it's way more than that. It's way more. And so the ridiculousness of it is a communist, now New York City and state that say, oh, the government's not taking care of us well enough because they're playing politics and revenge with our money. They're spending money they don't have, which is hurting your state worse. Other than that, it's not so bad, right? Right.

[00:09:01] And folks, again, if you think something bad to our economy is not coming very soon, then you're not looking at the truth. Because $40 trillion in debt is twice the GDP, the gross domestic product. All of the wealth in the United States of America is not even half of what we are in debt. You got that right. Right.

[00:09:26] And if you look at the Rand Paul where he said he visited Fort Knox and he says the gold's there, number one, I want a third-party audit to prove that. Third, I don't believe him. I think he just took it at face value. And I think he's trying to take credit for something and act like they did it. But even if they did, what he explains, I can't remember what he talks about, but I think it's like 150 billion ounces of gold that he saw. And, you know, he says that's half of it, so that'll be 300 billion.

[00:09:57] Anyway, when you figure it all out and times it by the amount of gold right now, it's still not even a pittance compared to what we owe. Even if it was all true. Yeah, and he wasn't allowed to take any pictures. He wasn't allowed to film anything. I mean, and how did he weigh it? Sam, if I saw 10 pallets of gold bars, would I be able to think, oh, yeah, that's 150 billion ounces? Yeah. What? I don't know how much that is.

[00:10:27] I have no clue. Well, and how do you know it's not tungsten as well and look good? Well, yeah. I'm just saying it's insane, ladies and gentlemen. When we get back, though, I want to talk about these extreme heat scenarios. We've got just extreme heat everywhere, and it's causing problems all across the country. We'll talk about it. I'm Sam. He's the good Sheriff Richard Mack. Become a member of the CSPOA today, CSPOA.org, and then you can watch the extended show, The CSPOA Posse.

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[00:12:48] We need promises made, promises kept with the Constitution at the core, at the center of the promises made. It's all about checks and balances. It's all about fidelity to the supreme law of the land, ladies and gentlemen. But we got a big problem on our hands. It's hotter than I'll get out everywhere. Headline says, blackout risk rises. As extreme heat strains. U.S. power grids. This is serious business, folks.

[00:13:16] The Energy Department, I guess, is now warning of increased blackout risks. As intense heat strains electricity. From the Midwest through the Mid-Atlantic. Anyway, including the PGM grid serving about 67 million people. It's all at risk, Sheriff, says the Energy Department.

[00:13:43] Yeah, and even President Trump came out about a week ago and warned that terrorists would be looking at attacking our grid and water supplies. Wow. Trump's finally catching up to us and realizing that that is a major threat.

[00:14:03] And again, we can thank the Biden administration for bringing in all the terrorists and cartel sleeper cells that are now monitoring our grid system and our water supplies. And have already attacked our water supplies already in about seven or eight states. So, yeah, the blackout you're talking about, is it going to be heat or is it going to be subterfuge and espionage? Intentional sabotage, yeah.

[00:14:33] Yeah, yeah. So, all those todges are going to be sabotage, espionage, and it's all going to be there, folks. And the question still remains, do you have a water supply? Do you have food supply? Do you have medicine supply? It's all just, it looks like it's the Titanic, Sam. Amen to that. And there's two websites we have that can help folks.

[00:15:03] CSPOA.org with a lot of that medicine stuff and everything else. We also have prepstartsnow.com, another website, too, that can help people get prepared now with all kinds of guides and kits and products, nothing else. CSPOA.org. And while you're there, become a member of the posse or prepstartsnow.com. But I just want everybody to realize this is serious, though. When the energy department warns about it, it's a concern. Now, the energy department was created in like 1977.

[00:15:29] I don't know what good it's done over the last 50 years, but we ought to get rid of that sucker, too. So, well, as soon as we get rid of the IRS and the Department of Education and then Department of Labor and Department of Education. Keep going, Sheriff. Yeah, I know. How long do we have, Sam? But I also want to make sure that people know that there's good news out there about sheriffs standing for freedom and fighting against tyranny in their own states.

[00:15:59] Amen to that. And we'll get to that in the webinar. I want to tease the webinar a bit and get people to sign up for it. CSPOA.org. Become a member today. And you can get the link to the incredible webinar that takes place every Wednesday. And the good part about the webinar is it's chat-oriented. So we take your questions and comments, and you become part of the webinar, part of the things we discuss, and part of the answer session and everything else in the webinar. So that happens every Wednesday right after Liberty Roundtable, Sheriff Mac version live, if you will. But I want to say this, too.

[00:16:28] There is good news, Sheriff, because I just saw an article where under Donald Trump, IRS audits are way, way down. So the IRS is harassing people less under President Trump than under former administrations. That's good news, too. It really is, Sam. But it still highlights the need to have an IRS brought in and reined in.

[00:16:52] And Congress, both Republicans and Democrats, if you would create a fair and honest tax system, you wouldn't even need the IRS. Don't you want to save $20 billion a year? Get rid of them. Don't you want to make the American people happy? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And live in freedom again? Because we don't mind paying our fair share of honest, appropriate taxes, Sheriff. No, of course not.

[00:17:21] It's just when they become bullies and abusers and stuff like that, that America just starts to say, no, this is out of control. This has got to stop. That's why they dumped the tea in the harbor, right? I mean, we're about at that reality check with the income tax right now. We need to have another Boston Tea Party nationwide.

[00:17:40] But, yeah, Sam, if we did a show on your network and did the Posse webinar onto it and did a show every day of the week with you and just had the abuses of the IRS talked about and have people call in that have been abused, or you and I could just look them up, and probably just the ones you and I know of.

[00:18:03] Well, it would be like they did in the 90s when they had everybody on TV talking about this, when the Republican Revolution took place, kind of in the mid-90s or whatever. They had people that would come on TV talking about the IRS, and then they'd cover their faces and distort their voices. The IRS attacked me. It was crazy. They ruined my whole life. And then somebody else would come on. The IRS. It was horrible. It was almost a clown show. But the problem is people were too afraid.

[00:18:29] Those were IRS employees that they were muffling their voices and hiding them behind partitions. I know. They were employees of the IRS. Well, yeah, dude, but you want to stand up against the IRS and be a whistleblower and go to jail forever? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sure. I mean, look at Ken Cromar, a dear friend than anything else. Miraclesandgodwetrust.com is his website, and he's been abused big time. He's already been in jail for over 1,000 days, three-plus years.

[00:18:57] And now they're thinking about a halfway house for him and everything. And what did he do? He decided that he didn't owe IRS taxes. Then he tried to go to a jury, and the jury got manipulated information from the judge. I was there. The judge literally cut me off at the knees and basically lied to the jury about who I was and what I stood for and basically prevented my testimony from getting to the jury is what he did. So much for telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Yeah. You just tell partial truth, my friend.

[00:19:26] You just tell enough truth not to let people know the whole story, you know. That's the truth in our court, don't you know, sir? It's just crazy town what they do. All right. So Donald Trump changed the name of Lake Ontario. It's now called Lake America, and on Google U.S. Maps it's changed. Google says its maps now display Lake America following Trump's, quote, executive order changing

[00:19:54] the U.S. geographic designation. Now, in Canada, though, on the maps, it's not changed. It's still Lake Ontario. But now MapQuest has come out, and they're not changing the name. They're keeping it Lake Ontario. And believe it or not, they're starting to see a surge in people backing MapQuest now, which is very strange. Sheriff, what do you think of this?

[00:20:20] I would like to tell Mexico that if we called the Gulf of Mexico Gulf of America, that that is actually accurate, because Mexico, you're in America. You're in the North American continent, okay? Latin America is South America. You're in North America. America is in United States of America. Yeah, we're there. It's in North America. So is Canada.

[00:20:48] Ontario, you're in Canada. Canada is in North America. So if we call it America, and who names them? Is it like the name Lake Ontario? Who named it? And that person gets to sue if somebody tries to change that name because you own it? Nobody owns those names, but please show me how I'm wrong. But anybody can call them what they want.

[00:21:16] If maps don't want to change them? Okay. Who cares? I don't. I agree. The only issue is it creates a little bit of confusion when we change names for everything. Yeah. You know, that creates difficulty for people, and it turns it into a political scenario. And I don't know that the president has executive order authority to do that in the first place, right? Well, I mean...

[00:21:44] Lake Ontario, by the way, comes from an indigenous name rather than by a particular European explorer. The French encountered, and then all kinds of different terms. Ontario means beautiful lake, great lake, or sparkling waters. French maps in the 17th century adopted the, quote, indigenous name. And it eventually became Lake Ontario.

[00:22:10] So it's kind of a takeoff of different words, but it came from the indigenous tribes, and eventually the French kind of called it that. And therefore, it kind of continued. So the question becomes, hey, in America, can we adopt that name by Europeans just by default? And then can Trump change that? You know, that's kind of the question. And, you know, I don't understand the value of changing the name anyway. I don't really see the value at this point. Yeah. What... To me, what difference does it make?

[00:22:40] But I don't... Yeah. Well, what I think we need to do in Utah is get rid of the state of Utah and go back to Deseret. If we can change names, let's just go back to what we wanted to be in the first place. Let's call the state Deseret. Yeah. It's fine with me. How did Arizona get its name? I don't know. I always said it was Arid Zone. Because it's so... Yeah. So Arizona? Hot, dry... I mean, it's next to Death Valley. It's brutal, folks. Yeah.

[00:23:09] It's just... You know, but in the winter, in all their defense, though, in the summer, it's just brutal. In the winter, though, Arizona is a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful place. Yeah. I just need a winter home in Arizona, don't I? Yeah. Then that's what I want. I want five months in Utah, five months in Arizona, and two months in Hawaii. All right. Now you're talking, Sheriff. Yeah. We'll try to get that set up. The problem, though, is cash. You know? Oh, yeah.

[00:23:38] Unless Donald's going to throw a bunch of cash our way, it's going to be thin. Well, they could throw all the money they want. They should be able to give us all a million dollars real easy because just add it to the national debt. They don't care what stupid projects go off the national debt. So why not us? They can, but a million dollars won't do you any good if everybody has it. Because then the price of things will just adjust to that reality check. And a million dollars will be like five bucks. Thanks. We're already almost there when we talk about billions and trillions, folks.

[00:24:06] Just compare it to seconds and you'll see what I'm talking about. Well, then give me and you two or three. Now you're talking. Thanks for being alongside, ladies and gentlemen. The webinar starts in mere seconds. Everybody who can stay there if you can't become a member of the CSPOA, and then you can. CSPOA.org. You can also check out murderofamerica.com. Liberty Roundtable Live is everywhere, folks. YouTube, Rumble, BitChute. We're on X. I mean, just everywhere.

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