Romney, Massie, and Vance All Blame GOP Losses | 11-05-26

[00:00:04] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. I'm calling it an incredible shocker, strange bedfellows, if you will. Romney, that's former Senator Mitt Romney. Thomas Massie, former Congressman Thomas. J.D. Vance, current Vice President.

[00:00:34] Sam Bushman, all on the same page. What the heck? Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. I'm Sam Bushman with hard-hitting news and network reviews to use. It all starts now. Kirk Crosby, affectionately known as the Honeyman, well-known, long-time, liberty-minded personality, joins us. Localhoneyman.com. Welcome back, sir. Buenos dias. Greetings and salutations. Howdy, howdy, howdy. Thank you, Sam. A lot of people think the elections are over.

[00:01:04] Yes, indeed, election night, Operation Slaughter. That's what I'm calling it. Did happen last Tuesday night. But there's still some things up in the air. Most people aren't aware of this. It's shocking but true. Republicans absolutely picked up at least 24 seats in the House, seven seats in the Senate. The Democrats are on a roll. The Republicans are on the ropes. But honesty is starting to come out of the Republican camp, which I applaud. Reality is starting to set in.

[00:01:33] Donald, in my humble opinion, still delusional. And that's the state of affairs. But let's break down some of these details, Kirk. Looks like Senate races in Mississippi and Alaska remain uncalled. Kansas and Alaska governor contests also await winners. Kurt? Yeah, according to the NBC Newsboys, and of course that's a fine source,

[00:01:57] they say that Scott Colum, I guess is his name, or Colum, he's a Democrat. He's up at 49%. And then the incumbent Republican, Cindy Hyde Smith, one of those hyphenated last names, is at 48.9%. With some independent getting 2.1% there, Sam.

[00:02:25] They say there's only 95.6% of the votes in. I'm just wondering where those other ones are. I mean, who's got them in their trunk? You know what I mean? Yeah, Kurt, they're somewhere, and they're probably working on trying to decide how many of them they need to manipulate before they turn them in, Kurt. Well, that's the way it is. You know, you just keep counting until you win, right? You know? It's a tragic reality check, folks.

[00:02:53] And so you've got big, in my opinion, this is a big deal. You've literally got this situation with Alaska, Mississippi, and Kansas, or the three states where it's like, what the heck is going on? There's more problems in Alaska, interestingly enough, Kurt, than anywhere. Alaska has kind of become the new Florida hanging Chad scenario. You don't know who the governor is. You don't know who the senators are. You've got this Dan Sullivan scandal happening. I mean, it's just a disaster in Alaska.

[00:03:23] Of all places, why Alaska, Kurt? Well, it's a smaller state. I'm talking about people-wise. You know what I mean? Yes, of course. So then what happens is, you know, a few people can basically upset the apple cart, kind of like, you know, if you turn Guam into a state, then you've got two more senators, you know.

[00:03:47] And, you know, that kind of thing, that's what attracts, I think, you know, the George Soros-likes folks or whatever to there. Because then, you know, if you can manipulate the thing and get another senator or two, hey, you know, it means a difference. That's right. And they think some cheating is bad, but other cheating is fine, you know. It all depends on how you cheat and who defines cheating, right? Well, yeah, of course.

[00:04:14] And if you make cheating legal, I mean, you know. Now you're talking. I mean, once it's legal, it's not cheating. Amen to that, ladies and gentlemen. Now, here's the deal, though. The Republicans are on the ropes, kind of. But I think some truth is coming out of the Republican Party, Kurt, for once. Yeah. Or at least in modern times. You know, I'm not here to just bash everyone. But I really do believe that parties are criminal enterprises, Kurt. I really do.

[00:04:40] Because they have a special privilege at government, more than you, more than me. Wait a minute. We're the ones that delegated authority to the government in the first place. If you want to have a private party that, you know, wants to hurrah and wave the flag and, you know, wave your pom-poms and all that. And, you know, even have a party that says, hey, we believe in this cause. That's great. I'm fine with all that. I believe in free association, in other words. Free association is a good thing.

[00:05:04] But my problem is when these parties get rules and laws and funding and it goes on and on and on to where they become the insiders with more power than anybody else, that is where I have the problem. And that's what they've done. But anyway, the truth is coming out to some degree. Even Senator or former Senator Mitt Romney and Thomas Massey both blame Republican losses on, quote, failed policy and broken promises. I couldn't agree more, Kurt.

[00:05:34] I couldn't agree more with that. Former Senator Mitt Romney and Representative Thomas Massey say Republicans brought their midterm defeat upon themselves. As Democrats won control of the House and Senate. Now, Romney specifically pointed at tariffs, the Iran war, deficits, and what he described as corruption.

[00:05:59] Not to mention immigration enforcement and failures of accountability. And this is where I kind of agree again. Okay, first off, tariffs are only the problem when the president wields them like a samurai sword. You know, the fact is tariffs are great, but Congress should have worked with the president. So the president didn't have to just do his best. And you could create longstanding, safe, stable tariffs.

[00:06:27] But Mike Johnson and company in the House and, you know, clown buffoon, I mean, thoon or whatever in the Senate. These guys just didn't play ball. They were just absolutely on vacation, not even in the mix. The Iran war, we should have never got in it. There's not congressional approval. You say, well, Sam, it was necessary. Okay, then get Congress aboard if it's necessary. Just follow the rules and you won't have an opposition party from me. Okay? Just follow the rules. Deficits, corruption, immigration problems.

[00:06:56] See, and now Trump is saying he'll work on immigration. We'll talk about that. He called for a, quote, course correction for both the country and his party. Again, I agree. But I'd rather abolish the party. See, the party can't have a course correction. Because the very nature of their partisan politics is the problem. Their very nature of getting special privileges is the problem. Problem.

[00:07:22] Massey says voters were holding Republicans accountable for abandoning campaign promises. Wow. He said we should have put Americans first. We should have avoided another war. And we should have prosecuted sex traffickers. Kurt, again, I couldn't agree more. Both blame the losses as a clear rejection of Republican leadership's decisions. That's the problem.

[00:07:50] See, these parties, they have a party agenda. And the party agenda is not what the Constitution agenda is. Anyway, do you want to sound off on this one, Kurt? What do you think of all that analysis? Well, I mean, at least if you're talking to Mitt Romney, I would simply say it's pretty hard for that guy to lecture us.

[00:08:17] I couldn't agree more with that, but at least he's right. Well, you know, in some ways. But I mean, the guy, the only time the standard media would bring him up, you know, like, for example, they're doing now, is when he comes out against President Trump. And, you know, the guy, I mean, he never would pass up an opportunity.

[00:08:42] And yet, you remember those times when he'd basically beg and plead for, you know, Trump's approval or his support. And, you know, it was just painful, in my opinion. And you should see the responses or the replies to his tweets, if you will.

[00:09:07] But I would like, the main thing I'd like to focus on here is the simple phrase that you talked about where you mentioned George Washington and how in his farewell address to the nation in 1796, you know. Basically, he gave two primary warnings in his speech. First was his global concern about permanent alliances with foreign countries.

[00:09:34] The second warning concerned putting political party interests ahead of the interests of the nation. And, you know, and that is, I mean, wouldn't it be grand just to hear him say, look, you know, let's just eliminate the whole party system. Amen. And that's where they won't go far enough. Thomas Masson nor Romney did that. But they should.

[00:09:56] I'm just saying, when you admit the Republican losses are your own fault, and when you basically explain that we're holding voters, or voters are holding Republicans accountable for broken campaign promises, particularly putting America's first, staying out of the war and sex trafficking, I really think the unwinding for MAGA started when Trump decided he kind of waffled and said, oh, let's get the Epstein files. Then he said, no, we're not getting them. And then he really attacked anybody who wanted to get them.

[00:10:22] And over the war and the Jeffrey Epstein files is why Thomas Massie is not in the House right now. And I personally believe Thomas Massie would have been a huge benefit in the House. Well, I've got some at least concerns about Thomas Massie myself. I did like a lot of things he did. Hold on. Quick pause. We'll talk about it.

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[00:12:34] All right, we're talking about Mitt Romney and Thomas Massey. They're explaining the reasons they believe that we lost the midterm elections. And I think a lot of what they have to say is right. But Kurt has concerns about Thomas Massey. Kurt? Well, you know, I do like, at least in the past, I liked his kind of independent role, if you will.

[00:12:59] But my problem was so many times it seemed like when he could have been a support and a help to the president, he had to basically do the kind of Mitt Romney kind of plan where, you know, he would basically oppose what the president was doing

[00:13:19] and therefore get, you know, coverage by the insider media and, you know, just cause more problems, if you ask me. And, you know, then there's, you know, at least in my opinion, some personal things that shouldn't, you know, family-wise and or, you know, what would you say, just outside the bonds of marriage kind of stuff that, you know, concern me about what he's done.

[00:13:48] Now he's calling for the, basically the impeachment of Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War. Or, yeah, that's right, the defense, they call him Defense Secretary, but I think it's Secretary of War. You know, and I, you know, I just don't, he's saying it's his fault because of the war, and I just don't follow that. I just feel like that's just more grandstanding and more, you know, stuff that doesn't need to be done.

[00:14:18] Right now there's a whole lot of things that need to be done before, you know, during this, if you will, lame duck thing, and that's not one of them, in my opinion. All right, Ed Galrean is the one that's taking Massey's place, from what I understand, come 2027, January. So we'll keep an eye on that ball as well. And, you know, there's just different opinions that everybody has about a lot of these things, and everybody can advocate for their reasons and their opinions,

[00:14:45] and I think there's positives to a lot of what people say. You know, for me, for example, I agree, Massey's got some problems, but I don't know of a politician up there that doesn't really. And, you know, Donald Trump has a lot of the same problems that Massey has. So, you know, now Romney, I doubt he cheats on his wife. And so at least in Romney's defense, at least from that point of view, he's somewhat of a moral point of view. Now, Mike Johnson I've been very critical of. A lot of people like Mike and think he's done a great job as Speaker of the House.

[00:15:14] But Mike Johnson will not seek House Republican leadership come the new term. He'll stay a congressman, but he won't be a House leader, and he's not in contention for it. Kurt? Well, that's very welcome, if you ask me. You know, there's a guy that, I mean, if I were to say, hey, is he a worker and get things done, I would say, boy, that's way down on the list there. You know, I'm hoping. He's cheating on his wife.

[00:15:44] Yeah, you know, there you go. I'm not that I know of. And I'm hoping for a good replacement like Jim Jordan, myself, who, you know, seems to me to be much more of a fighter. I would support Jim Jordan for that spot. Agreed. There's also who, John, somebody is the other guy vying for it. What's that guy's name? I know there's a couple other ones, you know. I'd have to look it up. But Jim Jordan, I hope, gets the spot. Time won't tell if he really does.

[00:16:14] And I think Jim Jordan would get a lot done if they didn't have his hands tied personally. And this is kind of what I mean. But Vance blames the Iran war for Republican losses as well. Trump defends his position and said, if I had to do it again, I'd do it. I have a little bit of concern with this, too. Again, I do believe the reason for the loss was the war. First off, we didn't follow the Constitution in going to that war. And that's a big problem in my mind. But a lot of people are saying we had to. Trump did what he had to and he should do it over.

[00:16:44] But even J.D. Vance has his reservations about that. What do you think, Kurt? Do you think we should have gone to war without congressional approval? Well, let me ask you this question. If you knew that some guys were going to get a nuclear bomb and that they would kill millions of people with it, would you try to stop it? The answer is, of course. The problem is that I can't do preemptive crime.

[00:17:12] In other words, I can't become the thought police and say that I know is the issue. Secondly, if it's really true that there was a bomb and that they were really going to get one and it was really a threat to the world that we're claiming that it is, I don't have a problem. That's not a stretch for me to go there. However, then you should go to Congress. You should make your case and you should get Congress aboard and follow the law. So even my issue isn't so much whether we should be there or not as much as it's how we get there. And if you say, well, Congress won't go along, I understand.

[00:17:42] But the law still stands, right? Well, I agree as well. And, you know, when it comes to the Constitution where we're supposed to declare war and that kind of thing, you know, I mean, that's one of those arguments that we've had forever. I mean, we should follow the Constitution in every aspect. But there's so much of it that doesn't get followed.

[00:18:08] I just know that if I were in President Trump's spot and I knew that, you know, the situation was going to be millions of people die or I do this, then I would have done what he did. Right. Even if it meant, you know, I'd lose a bunch of the House and a bunch of the Senate, you know, who, in my opinion, he's lost them anyway because most of them are, you know, they're opposing them anyway.

[00:18:39] That's one of my points is that they're like, oh, now we got the Democrats. It's going to be really bad. My response is how bad? I mean, we've already got it where they don't obey him and they undermine him. That's been my point. I've actually defended Trump in a lot of ways where people don't give me credit for defending Trump. They think I'm just a Trump attacker. But it's not true. I think Trump's done a lot of good. And I think what we should have done is if Congress would have came to the bat and said, Trump, show us what you've got. If this is really this big of a threat, Mike Johnson could have done this.

[00:19:07] If this is this big of a threat, let's sit down and bring us into the loop, catch us up on enough to where we can make some decisions. Let's get you some support. And even if they couldn't get it passed because the Democrats are too destructive, you could have at least had, I don't know, 215 Republicans or something or 200 Republicans or something make a joint statement. We have reviewed the documents that President Trump has or the intel that he has. We have been brought into the loop per the Constitution. We think that he needs to be there.

[00:19:36] And here's why. Make the case to the American people. That's the reason that it's in the Constitution like that is to make sure that. We have put together these plans for President Trump to carry it out. But these Democrats are in our way. See, if you would have articulated that to the American people in a proper way, I believe we probably would not have lost the election. Like I say, I don't know if we need to be in that war or not because I don't have the intel. I don't know. And I'm going to trust President Trump and say that he's probably correct and we probably need to be there.

[00:20:04] So then let's get there the right way is all I'm kind of saying. And so it's interesting. But I think we could have made a much better case to the American people about it, Kurt. And I think we could have put people on the line that were responsible for holding it up if we really need to be there. But, you know, Sam, at least to make the case to the American people, you have to have. Yeah, call me. Well, I know. But, I mean, you've got the friendly media that, you know, at least there's a few of us.

[00:20:34] And then you've got, in my opinion, you've got the enemies amongst us. Yes, you do. But you can kick the enemies out and not go to them with stories and information. You could elevate us a ton and they would by nature fall away. You could have, you know, all I'm telling you is there's a lot there that we could really do. And that's not in criticism of Trump. But anyway, a lot of people are saying that the war is one of the reasons we lost. And I think in the American people's minds, we shouldn't be there because the case hasn't been made properly like I believe that it should.

[00:21:03] And I believe that it could. Now, Democrats. Well, yeah. But if you before you leave the war real quick, if if the price of gas and then all the other related increases, if that hadn't changed, if that had still been the price we saw, the prices we saw before the war, I believe the war wouldn't have been the problem.

[00:21:33] You know, or you're saying, hey, if the economy was fine, the war wouldn't be an issue. Well, that's that's the old phrase we got taught so long ago by Bill. Yeah. Bill Clinton. And I think you're right. I think if if the economy had their pockets squared away, then we wouldn't have near the problem we had. I think you would lose a lot of people over the war still. But I agree with you that we probably still would have won if the economy was intact.

[00:21:55] If you make that case, though, about the war, I believe once you really like a while back, he said something like, well, I, you know, I'd hate to see L.A. and San Diego or something taken out. Well, the bottom line is he must have had some kind of understanding that with the right delivery system, you could nuke those cities. And I think that's a fair point.

[00:22:21] And that's why I say all we got to do is work on the way the Constitution is supposed to work and said, hey, bring these people into the loop, set apart, set aside policy, partisan politics, even if Congress won't go aboard because the Democrats will just reject anything. Trump and the Trump haters make your case to the American people directly. You don't have to give all the secrets away, but you have to give us enough information to where we understand the threat. And that's the way it was designed to make sure that we're not going to be in endless wars without, you know, et cetera.

[00:22:51] Well, it turns out the Democrats won or lead in most of the Republican redistricting. So they tried to redistrict and I call this gerrymandering. I know they call it redistricting, but I don't agree. When you have these special privilege groups at the trough and they get to divide up the spoils, if you will, and then guys like me or you or anybody else, we don't have a say. Why? Because, see, I'm not a Republican or a Democrat, so I'm just disenfranchised all the way down the line.

[00:23:20] But you look at that and you go, why do they get to sit at the table and split the spoils, meaning the votes? Why do they get to do that? What gave them special privilege as private organizations to do that? See, in my mind, that's criminal. That's vote, election, fraud. It's gerrymandering. And when the Democrats do it, the Republicans say it's gerrymandering. When the opposite is true, then they say the Republicans are gerrymandering. And both of them are really gerrymandering is the truth. They just tell the truth when it's not their camp, right? Right. How would you do it?

[00:23:47] For example, like, you know, as you say, I don't even know how you'd separate and do districts in states and things like that. Well, hold on. So we have precincts, right? Right. Why do we need partisan precincts? Well, they don't have partisan precincts. They have partisan. I thought when you go to a precinct, you go to the Republican one or the Democrat one for primaries and stuff. Uh, that's your, like, your neighborhood or whatever, you know, stuff like that. Hold on.

[00:24:16] We'll talk about it, ladies and gentlemen. We've got to stand our ground. We've got to learn correct principles. And that doesn't mean Sam and Curt know all of them either. We're going to check this out, break this down on the other side. Stay with us. Hard-hitting news that networks abuse use continues. This is the one and only Liberty RoundTable Podcast. We say the party's over. When will you join us? God save our constitutional republic. It's worth it when you try.