Radio Show Hour 2 – 12/24/2024

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[00:01:22] It is Christmas Eve day.

[00:01:25] I am Sam Bushman, Lance Migliaccio, George Ballantyne, the Big Mig gentleman with me,

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[00:01:34] Check out the Big Mig TV version anywhere.

[00:01:37] All over the place.

[00:01:39] X, Rumble, all kinds of social media.

[00:01:42] Just look for the Big Mig.

[00:01:43] You got her done.

[00:01:45] If Donald Trump's overwhelming election victory made one thing clear, it's the legacy media

[00:01:53] has failed completely, gentlemen.

[00:01:57] Outlets like ours are the future.

[00:02:00] Hey, they cannot continue to, quote, claim neutrality.

[00:02:04] While displaying liberal bias at every turn.

[00:02:08] People are sick and tired of journalists and, quote, fact checkers who spew lies

[00:02:15] and double down when called to the carpet on their duplicity.

[00:02:18] So, if you value truth, common sense, and you want to have a little bit of fun with your facts,

[00:02:24] there's a website called NotTheBee.

[00:02:29] They say it's the news outlet for you.

[00:02:33] How much do you guys know about the NotTheBee?

[00:02:37] I literally know nothing about it.

[00:02:40] Haven't heard a word about it.

[00:02:42] Well, so the Babylon Bee or whatever is around.

[00:02:46] You've got all these fake sites and you've got this and that.

[00:02:49] Look up NotTheBee.

[00:02:51] I find that interesting.

[00:02:51] That's their pitch.

[00:02:52] I just saw an ad for them.

[00:02:54] And that's what their ad says.

[00:02:56] And I happen to agree with a lot of what's in the ad.

[00:02:59] So, I find this an interesting thing that, you know, maybe our listeners can email us and tell us more about this.

[00:03:05] You got YourNews.com, which is a new news organization doing a pretty good job, too.

[00:03:10] You've got NotTheBee.

[00:03:12] You're starting to see a real launch of more and more and more offerings in the media space.

[00:03:20] Okay?

[00:03:20] You got Trump with True Social.

[00:03:24] You got X.

[00:03:26] And now you're starting to see NotTheBee.

[00:03:28] You're starting to see YourNews.

[00:03:29] You're starting to see Tucker Carlson's Daily Caller.

[00:03:32] Everybody and their dog wants to get into the media now.

[00:03:34] I've been in it with my own network since 2009, gentlemen.

[00:03:37] These guys are trying to catch up and they're starting to do a pretty good job.

[00:03:41] What do you say, Lance?

[00:03:43] Well, you know me.

[00:03:44] I want transparency.

[00:03:46] I want the truth.

[00:03:47] That's what our show is all about.

[00:03:48] That's why we say it's tip of the spear.

[00:03:50] And if liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

[00:03:54] Our thing is about doing all the research and finding the evidence and facts.

[00:03:57] So, yes, I love websites.

[00:03:59] I love shows.

[00:04:00] I love platforms.

[00:04:01] They're all about the truth.

[00:04:03] The funny thing is that it's taken this long, it seems, for a lot of the American public to catch up.

[00:04:08] Because let's face it.

[00:04:10] Mainstream media is in serious trouble.

[00:04:13] Their ratings are tanking.

[00:04:15] They're having to take pay cuts.

[00:04:17] People are getting fired.

[00:04:20] We know that there's media companies that are up for sale that would have never thought about selling before.

[00:04:25] And I think that's going to continue to happen.

[00:04:26] I think we're kind of at a tipping point.

[00:04:28] I think the American public is sick of the garbage and the BS.

[00:04:31] And they want the truth, Sam.

[00:04:32] They want to see the facts.

[00:04:35] So I'm all about this.

[00:04:36] I'm 100% support.

[00:04:37] I'm looking at the Not The Bee website right now.

[00:04:39] And it's interesting.

[00:04:40] I like the play on it.

[00:04:41] It looks to be kind of the alt of the Babylon Bee because it says Not The Bee.

[00:04:45] And it's using kind of like a Babylon Bee version of their little bee logo.

[00:04:49] Well, because Babylon Bee, a little bit of a satiric sight or whatever.

[00:04:56] A little bit?

[00:04:57] No, it's full satiric sight.

[00:04:59] Well, you know, it depends on how you compare it.

[00:05:03] I mean, is The Onion more so?

[00:05:04] Anyway, the point is those folks tried to buy and take down Alex Jones and so far failed too.

[00:05:08] This epic battle is on, George.

[00:05:11] No, it is on.

[00:05:12] I mean, let's just so, yeah, Not The Bee and seems like a nice good site for alternative news.

[00:05:19] But I still think like we have to make a presence on cable news and figure out how to take over maybe another station or somehow.

[00:05:28] Because you have the young generation that mostly get their news from their phones, websites.

[00:05:34] But you still have the older generation that turn the TV on and get their news that way.

[00:05:39] And those are the people where we still need to fight and show them what's going on.

[00:05:42] And that's a big problem because most of the media, not most, all the media on cable news is biased anyway.

[00:05:49] So coverage.

[00:05:51] And let's look at Alex Jones.

[00:05:52] They're trying to cancel him.

[00:05:54] They tried to do a fake sale, auction it off.

[00:05:57] And they awarded to some company that doesn't even have the money to buy it and wasn't even the highest bidder.

[00:06:04] And so that got stopped.

[00:06:06] A lot of shenanigans.

[00:06:07] They'll go to any lengths.

[00:06:09] But, you know, if you look at Alex Jones' case and you think about this, whatever happened to free speech?

[00:06:17] Why?

[00:06:18] Doesn't he?

[00:06:18] Isn't Alex Jones entitled to free speech?

[00:06:22] Absolutely.

[00:06:23] Why did he get sued?

[00:06:23] I did a video in defense of Alex Jones.

[00:06:25] I agree 100%.

[00:06:26] So when you say this is a total satirical site, it's satirical.

[00:06:31] I agree.

[00:06:31] That's why they say it's kind of willing to kind of fudge the facts a little bit on some things.

[00:06:36] But a lot of the news they have there is truthful.

[00:06:39] Yeah, it is.

[00:06:39] It's just that their take on it is funny oftentimes.

[00:06:42] So, for example, one of the headlines says this.

[00:06:45] Trump says he's going to change the name of America's tallest mountain back to Mount McKinley.

[00:06:50] Well, that's a factual news piece, right?

[00:06:53] Now they have kind of a hilarious twist on it or whatever else.

[00:06:56] But, you know, anyway, it's very interesting.

[00:06:59] Do you think he's going to change the name of that mountain back, Lance?

[00:07:01] You know, I don't know.

[00:07:03] I haven't really seen much information about that.

[00:07:05] So it's hard for me to say yes or no that that's going to happen.

[00:07:08] What is our tallest mountain, by the way?

[00:07:10] Mount McKinley.

[00:07:15] Yeah, what's the mountain called right now?

[00:07:17] It's not Mount McKinley.

[00:07:18] He wants to change it back.

[00:07:19] It used to be Mount McKinley.

[00:07:21] What's it called right now?

[00:07:23] What's it called, Lance?

[00:07:23] Do you know?

[00:07:24] No, I don't.

[00:07:27] Where's it at?

[00:07:30] America's tallest mountain.

[00:07:33] Look up America's tallest mountain and you can find out.

[00:07:38] I don't know.

[00:07:39] I'm not an expert in this.

[00:07:40] But what I find interesting is this idea that, hey, Trump just wants to change it back.

[00:07:44] Okay.

[00:07:45] Who changed it in the first place?

[00:07:46] Where do these people get all these authorities just to change the names of everything?

[00:07:50] Oh, Denali?

[00:07:51] America's tallest mountain is Denali right now.

[00:07:53] Yeah.

[00:07:54] It's located in Alaska.

[00:07:56] Reaches the height of 20,310 feet tall.

[00:08:01] Huh.

[00:08:02] Interesting.

[00:08:02] Above sea level.

[00:08:03] It's part of the Alaska Sea Range.

[00:08:07] It's the highest peak in North America.

[00:08:09] So he wants to change it back to Mount McKinley.

[00:08:11] That's the way I used to know it and saw it.

[00:08:13] This other name I don't even know.

[00:08:14] So it's kind of interesting.

[00:08:15] So here I got it.

[00:08:17] Barack Obama changed the name and allegedly in honor of Alaskans native community.

[00:08:27] I don't know.

[00:08:29] Denali?

[00:08:29] I mean, how does Denali?

[00:08:31] I don't know how the name Denali is associated with Alaskans native community.

[00:08:36] You got to go study all that and figure it out.

[00:08:38] But all I'm telling you is, hey, Donald wants to name it back.

[00:08:40] I can, I just, I mean, I understand what he's trying to do.

[00:08:43] He's trying to preserve our historical reality.

[00:08:45] But then he's got to start putting up a bunch of statues those suckers yanked down too.

[00:08:49] Right, Lance?

[00:08:51] Listen, I don't like what they did.

[00:08:53] I don't like this whole cleansing of our history.

[00:08:56] So there's no doubt in my mind.

[00:08:58] I want all that stuff back.

[00:09:00] And I don't want the George Floyd statues up.

[00:09:02] I want those things taken and melted down.

[00:09:04] I don't think you should glorify some, you know, scum like George Floyd in all these statues.

[00:09:12] And they've done a lot of that across the country.

[00:09:14] I think enough is enough.

[00:09:15] I want to get back to our historical record.

[00:09:17] And I want everything replaced the way it was.

[00:09:19] I wasn't unhappy with it.

[00:09:21] Listen, Confederate America, regular America, it all is part of our history.

[00:09:25] And we should never deny our history.

[00:09:27] It makes us look weak and stupid.

[00:09:29] Now, it's smart to not repeat some of the negative things we've done in history.

[00:09:32] I go there and get that.

[00:09:33] But what better reminders than historical reality, right?

[00:09:37] No doubt.

[00:09:38] No doubt.

[00:09:39] And at the end of the day, this whole ideology that's been, you know, pushed through everything

[00:09:45] from our school system all the way up to our highest levels of government, I'm over it.

[00:09:50] It's kind of like that one congressional member, the one with the purple hair.

[00:09:53] Can't think of her name right now.

[00:09:54] But that lunatic.

[00:09:56] Yeah, she's goofy.

[00:09:57] Yeah.

[00:09:57] I mean, you know, is this the brightest and best?

[00:10:00] Is this the best we have to offer?

[00:10:01] And then, of course, what do we need to do?

[00:10:02] We need to cover up what actually happened in our history?

[00:10:05] No, I don't think so.

[00:10:07] You know, if we want to clean something up, how about cleaning up the New York subways?

[00:10:10] What about that, Sam?

[00:10:13] I think that's called Mount Musk.

[00:10:15] What do you think of that?

[00:10:15] Listen, I could care less about the mountain's name.

[00:10:18] Who cares?

[00:10:19] It's a waste of time, anyway.

[00:10:21] I mean, it was named after a former...

[00:10:23] Hold on.

[00:10:24] Hold on.

[00:10:24] It's a culture discussion about changing everything we have, breaking us away from our historical

[00:10:31] familial ties and our historical reality, though.

[00:10:34] So it matters because once you take that away, there's no grounding for people.

[00:10:39] Okay, so you want to go historical.

[00:10:42] Wasn't it before McKinley was named after him?

[00:10:45] He was a president.

[00:10:46] It was assassinated in 1901.

[00:10:47] What was the name before McKinley?

[00:10:48] The mountain.

[00:10:49] Let's go historical.

[00:10:50] Let's go back.

[00:10:52] Don't know.

[00:10:53] Ah.

[00:10:54] Right?

[00:10:54] Look it up.

[00:10:55] Yeah.

[00:10:55] Okay.

[00:10:56] So, I mean, there you go.

[00:10:57] So here's the point.

[00:10:58] We didn't have a discussion in America about this kind of stuff.

[00:11:01] It doesn't mean that Sam or George or somebody else knows everything.

[00:11:04] It's a matter of us all learning.

[00:11:06] It's a matter of us all discussing.

[00:11:07] It's not like we're removing the mountain, Sam.

[00:11:08] What should we do?

[00:11:10] What should we do?

[00:11:12] Put our statues back up.

[00:11:14] Preserve history.

[00:11:16] Get rid of the Floyd statue.

[00:11:18] That's, you know.

[00:11:19] I think that Trump's face in Mount Rushmore is historic.

[00:11:26] Imagine.

[00:11:26] The liberals would go crazy.

[00:11:28] Oh, my God.

[00:11:29] Now, if Trump can get people to donate to it and keep the federal money, government,

[00:11:36] money out of building his, putting his face on it, he's got to be good to go.

[00:11:42] Well, as long as the government don't got to pay for it.

[00:11:45] Well, and that's kind of the question.

[00:11:47] We've got to work through and talk through all these different things and stuff like that.

[00:11:50] But I just find that fascinating because if we're going to change the name back to Mount McKinley,

[00:11:56] I agree with George.

[00:11:57] Hey, let's maybe look even earlier than that.

[00:11:59] But let's also look at a lot of our land grabs that have gone on between Barack Obama, Bill Clinton,

[00:12:06] all these different clowns.

[00:12:07] And let's, you know what, give the land back to the states where it belonged constitutionally, Lance.

[00:12:12] Listen, no doubt.

[00:12:14] I mean, let me say this to you.

[00:12:16] You know, right now, this sort of thing is what's really ruining the country, in my opinion.

[00:12:21] It's all these changes that are based on some crazy, you know, new narrative rhetoric of DEI.

[00:12:28] And we're going to unify the country.

[00:12:31] And really all it is is creating more division.

[00:12:33] Because at the end of the day, when a country is embarrassed or uncomfortable or wants to hide the origins of that country

[00:12:41] through some kind of an idea for a statue, you know, like I said about George Floyd,

[00:12:46] that's when you're really in trouble.

[00:12:48] Because I think you have to be proud of the country.

[00:12:50] And I think you have to be proud of the state you're in.

[00:12:52] It used to be that our country was extremely proud.

[00:12:55] And we used to, when you went around the globe,

[00:12:57] it used to be that Americans were welcomed into open arms and respected and appreciated.

[00:13:02] And now we've become a laughingstock.

[00:13:05] And I think a lot of that's got to do with the highest levels of our government being as corrupted as they are.

[00:13:11] The rest of the globe knows it.

[00:13:13] They know we don't have a fair election system and we're just not looking good.

[00:13:16] And these kind of choices of getting rid of statues and, you know, drag queen story hours

[00:13:21] and all the rest of this garbage that's in the news is destroying us from within.

[00:13:27] I agree.

[00:13:27] I don't know if you know this, but before Utah became a state, it was a territory.

[00:13:31] Utah was controlled by the Mormons or the leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[00:13:35] It was called Deseret, named after a honeybee and after industry.

[00:13:39] And to become a state, they forced it to be renamed Utah because that, you know,

[00:13:43] kind of gave grace to the Indian population or the native populations as well.

[00:13:47] So maybe we just ought to change the name back to Deseret too for Utah.

[00:13:51] Sure, why not?

[00:13:52] But I'm going to do a history lesson here on the roundtable.

[00:13:57] Okay, what was Mount McKinley called before?

[00:14:00] So prospectors along the Yukon River started calling the mountain Densmore, Mountain or Densmore Peak.

[00:14:06] Mount McKinley emerged after a gold prospector named William Dickey,

[00:14:11] who admired President-elect McKinley, used the name in 1897 in a New York Sun article.

[00:14:17] So, but the mountain was always commonly referred to by its Koykegon,

[00:14:24] had its passion named Denali, by the Alaskans, mountaineers and Alaskan natives.

[00:14:30] So, the history is it's really the name Denali.

[00:14:36] Yeah, so do you want to change it back?

[00:14:38] Do you agree with Trump?

[00:14:39] That's the question.

[00:14:40] No, I don't agree with Trump.

[00:14:42] Leave it to Denali.

[00:14:42] All right, so Lance wants to change it back.

[00:14:45] Well, Lance has got to say so in this.

[00:14:47] I just did the history lesson.

[00:14:49] You want, listen, you can't go back to,

[00:14:51] you can't say you want to bring things back to history and then pick and choose.

[00:14:53] We don't do that here.

[00:14:55] Well, that's what Trump wants to do.

[00:14:57] You don't know?

[00:14:58] You know, I'm tired of the shenanigans.

[00:14:59] I'd rather call it Mount Musk.

[00:15:01] No.

[00:15:02] What do you think?

[00:15:04] No, believe it or not.

[00:15:05] That's what it was before McKinley.

[00:15:08] He's the biggest richest dude in the world.

[00:15:10] It makes sense.

[00:15:12] Call it Mount Musk.

[00:15:13] Nah.

[00:15:17] See, ladies and gentlemen, we got a lot of discussions to deal with when it comes to Trump.

[00:15:22] There's a lot of what he wants to do that's very controversial and very difficult to navigate

[00:15:26] and get your arms around oftentimes.

[00:15:28] For example, will TikTok be banned is the next question.

[00:15:32] Yeah, the billionaire guy by the name of Frank McCourt, I think is how you say his name.

[00:15:38] Frank McCourt wants to buy that sucker with a group of investors and stuff.

[00:15:42] He's the former owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers, and he wants to purchase TikTok.

[00:15:50] He's founder of Project Liberty and the executive of McCourt Global.

[00:15:57] He says, hey, he wants to save TikTok from ruin because it's going to get shut down or destroyed

[00:16:02] or whatever else unless somebody buys it, and he's ready to go.

[00:16:05] See, I told you everybody wants to get in the media business.

[00:16:06] George?

[00:16:10] Listen, you can get in the media business, but I don't know how long you're going to survive

[00:16:14] unless you start telling the truth.

[00:16:15] There's a big difference.

[00:16:18] You're right.

[00:16:19] It's a good point.

[00:16:21] Anybody can make a podcast.

[00:16:23] It doesn't mean it's a good podcast.

[00:16:24] There's a lot of people that have podcasts that shouldn't really have podcasts.

[00:16:28] Yeah, I don't know if Frank McCourt is a good dude or not.

[00:16:29] I don't know anything about the guy except for I know that he wants to buy TikTok now.

[00:16:33] So now we've got to kind of dig into him.

[00:16:34] He's founder of Project Liberty, so that's a good sign.

[00:16:36] I mean, I believe in Liberty.

[00:16:38] Frank McCourt?

[00:16:39] Yeah.

[00:16:41] M-C-C-O-U-R-T.

[00:16:45] McCourt.

[00:16:47] What do you think?

[00:16:48] Will TikTok be banned, Lance?

[00:16:50] I sure hope so.

[00:16:52] I think TikTok is one of the worst things that's happened to this country in a long time,

[00:16:56] and we allowed it to infiltrate, you know, every place that you can possibly think of.

[00:17:04] It's on every social media platform because people are constantly taking posts off of there.

[00:17:07] And what it's done to the youth of America, that it's more important to dance in the aisle and block some guy from doing his job.

[00:17:15] It's more important to do a challenge that you walk around in public bathrooms and then lick the soles of your shoes.

[00:17:21] It's more important to, you know, have some dumb dance contest than educate yourself.

[00:17:28] I think, I'll be honest with you, if I was Donald Trump, I wouldn't give anybody the opportunity to sell TikTok.

[00:17:33] I'd tell the company that controls TikTok right now, just take TikTok with you and we're done.

[00:17:38] Sure, a lot of people will get upset because they've been making money, you know, promoting stupidity.

[00:17:44] But I think done with TikTok, I'd stick a fork in that.

[00:17:47] I wouldn't let anybody buy it.

[00:17:48] And I sure as hell wouldn't let it continue in its current model.

[00:17:52] Well, what about Facebook and Instagram?

[00:17:54] I mean, those are the ones that gave $400 billion to the Kamala or whatever the campaign was, Hillary Clinton and whoever else back in 16 and all this kind of stuff.

[00:18:04] I think, I think criminally that Zucker, Mark Zuckerberg should face the consequences of the Zuckerberg situation.

[00:18:11] So that's a different event.

[00:18:12] I don't think that Facebook, not that I'm saying Facebook and Instagram and these other platforms are great,

[00:18:19] but TikTok takes stupidity and disgusting behavior to a whole new level.

[00:18:26] I don't think we need it.

[00:18:28] I don't think it's important to the country.

[00:18:30] And I think we have to start making, let me finish, George.

[00:18:31] I think we have to make decisions that are competent for the children of this country.

[00:18:36] And I think having something like TikTok that influences our kids to participate in toilet bowl licking challenges

[00:18:42] and other dumb assery where they're, you know, oh, you got to do a shot of Everclear

[00:18:47] and then you got to, you know, drink some of this sardine juice and then this is the challenge.

[00:18:51] We don't need this garbage, Sam.

[00:18:53] It's unnecessary.

[00:18:53] And I think at this point, allowing it to continue is doing a disservice to everyone in the country

[00:18:59] because we have a major problem in this country right now with what's happening with our youth.

[00:19:06] Now, here's the interesting thing.

[00:19:07] Can I chime in?

[00:19:08] Can I chime in?

[00:19:08] Yes.

[00:19:09] No, I want to chime in.

[00:19:10] I want to stop this.

[00:19:11] Yes.

[00:19:12] So what's to stop anybody else from making another app that allows the kids to do this?

[00:19:17] That's number one.

[00:19:18] Right.

[00:19:19] They got to create one called Georgie Porgy.

[00:19:20] I mean, you're talking about TikTok about kids.

[00:19:22] Let's talk about Snapchat too.

[00:19:23] That's no safe haven for kids.

[00:19:25] Oh, my.

[00:19:26] I think they got to call it Georgie Porgy.

[00:19:28] It'll be a new app to replace TikTok.

[00:19:30] Haven't you heard?

[00:19:30] You know.

[00:19:30] As long as I get a percentage of the, that's fine using my name.

[00:19:33] But so even if this got run up and down the clock, even if he buys his TikTok, he's still

[00:19:41] going to have to deal with the algorithms and how to fix all that.

[00:19:46] Because let's face it, Elon Musk owns X and he still hasn't fixed X's algorithms and stuff.

[00:19:53] So, you know, we're still facing those challenges on X.

[00:19:58] And I think at the end of the day, if TikTok took the hit, it's the same thing.

[00:20:02] No accountability, no consequences.

[00:20:04] Right.

[00:20:04] I think that if TikTok took the hit and we banned TikTok in the United States, because let's

[00:20:09] face it, if you look at TikTok in China, if you look at the videos coming out of TikTok

[00:20:13] China, they don't compare.

[00:20:14] They don't allow this garbage in China.

[00:20:16] They have a different outcome there, buddy.

[00:20:18] Yeah.

[00:20:18] In China, their educational programs, their fitness competitions, you can't post this garbage.

[00:20:23] Lance.

[00:20:24] Why can't you finish?

[00:20:25] No, no, no.

[00:20:25] You interrupt me.

[00:20:26] I'm going to interrupt you.

[00:20:27] I was making a statement.

[00:20:28] I'm making a statement.

[00:20:29] Here's my statement.

[00:20:30] My statement is, it doesn't matter.

[00:20:32] Hold on, George.

[00:20:33] Make them pay the consequences.

[00:20:35] And at the end of the day, George, let's see if somebody wants to invest their money

[00:20:38] to duplicate stupidity.

[00:20:39] And maybe they'll face the same consequences.

[00:20:41] At the end of the day, we continue to allow this stuff under some excuse or some justification.

[00:20:45] And what we're really talking about is garbage in, garbage out.

[00:20:49] Go ahead, George.

[00:20:51] So, what's to stop the new guy from buying TikTok and actually figuring it out and then

[00:20:55] using those algorithms so you don't get all that stupid stuff on TikTok then?

[00:20:59] It could be done.

[00:21:00] Again, my personal opinion is TikTok doesn't deserve to survive.

[00:21:05] I've spent time over there looking around and I think that 90% of what's on there is

[00:21:10] total frigging garbage.

[00:21:12] I agree with that.

[00:21:13] But I support the free market to a great degree too.

[00:21:15] And this is kind of interesting.

[00:21:16] So, Joe Biden, they say, passed legislation.

[00:21:19] Now, Joe didn't pass any legislation, just so you know.

[00:21:22] But they want you to believe that Joe Biden passed legislation banning TikTok.

[00:21:26] Guess when?

[00:21:27] January the 19th, 2025.

[00:21:29] A day before, gentlemen, the inauguration.

[00:21:36] What do you think of that?

[00:21:39] That's going to create a little bit of turmoil for folks.

[00:21:43] Because you won't be putting inauguration videos on the talk there if it gets banned.

[00:21:47] The question is, does anybody have any authority to stop it at this point?

[00:21:51] Will it be banned?

[00:21:52] Will it be purchased?

[00:21:52] What will happen?

[00:21:54] Can you use a VPN and still get TikTok then?

[00:22:00] Well, that's the debate.

[00:22:01] It depends on how, you know, what kind of controls the United States government has on people's

[00:22:06] freedoms.

[00:22:08] See, my concern about this, I'm not a TikTok fan.

[00:22:10] I think it's a, I agree with Lance on that.

[00:22:12] At the same time, I'm not really for government banning stuff because pretty soon they'll ban

[00:22:15] TikTok next they'll ban Liberty News Radio, right?

[00:22:21] Awesome.

[00:22:22] You know, I guess, Sam, I guess we can go that distance if we want to.

[00:22:26] But let me ask you this.

[00:22:27] Here's a question for you.

[00:22:28] Do we continue to allow institutions and companies to apparently set up businesses that their whole

[00:22:38] focus is to destroy our country from within?

[00:22:41] Because at the end of the day, if you look at the subversive nature of TikTok and if you

[00:22:44] look at the subversive nature of what's posted over there and the behavior it's promoting,

[00:22:49] is this really what we want the youth of our country to be involved in?

[00:22:54] Is this something we really want them to participate in?

[00:22:58] No, certainly not.

[00:22:59] So now you're bringing up in my mind some real discussion points about, hey, when do we

[00:23:04] determine something's a threat?

[00:23:06] When does it go beyond the First Amendment?

[00:23:08] Now, I'm going to use violence as a great example, gentlemen.

[00:23:11] I can say something violent and they can say that's hyperbole because I'm not doing anything

[00:23:17] violent.

[00:23:18] I'm just saying things.

[00:23:18] There's a lot of latitude when it comes to speech.

[00:23:20] There's a lot less latitude when it comes to violent actions.

[00:23:23] How does that relate to TikTok and some of these other discussions?

[00:23:27] You know, when is something deemed different beyond the First Amendment but yet, hey, a threat

[00:23:31] to societal norms and cultural realities and everything else?

[00:23:35] And I agree with Lance that I think the line's been crossed there to a great degree by TikTok.

[00:23:40] I think there's truth to that.

[00:23:42] I mean, it's literally feeding information from all the consumers and everything all the

[00:23:45] way back to the communist Chinese.

[00:23:47] But so is this other thing.

[00:23:50] What's it called?

[00:23:51] I got to look this up.

[00:23:53] They've got control of the telecommunications network, too.

[00:23:57] And is that worse than TikTok?

[00:23:59] We'll talk about that operation in just a second and see how it relates.

[00:24:02] Also, they're claiming, and we'll get to this, too.

[00:24:04] Elon Musk has the biggest megaphone of anybody on the planet.

[00:24:09] Bigger than Donald by far.

[00:24:11] We'll talk about that repercussions of that reality.

[00:24:13] That's why we ought to just name everything Musk.

[00:24:16] Just kidding.

[00:24:17] Just making a point.

[00:24:18] How much will we let Musk take over?

[00:24:21] He's never even ran for office, right?

[00:24:23] Hang tight.

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[00:30:32] All right, ladies and gentlemen, Lance Miliacho, George Valentin on your radio.

[00:30:37] Hey, Joe Biden, they say pass legislation.

[00:30:40] He's in the wrong branch of government.

[00:30:41] He ought to be impeached.

[00:30:42] But anyway, they pass legislation that would shut down TikTok if it's not sold by January the 19th, the day before the inauguration.

[00:30:49] I find that very interesting timing, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:30:54] But the FBI issues an alarming warning about SMS security breaches, so text security breaches, relating to the CCP, Communist Chinese Party hacking group, Salt Typhoon.

[00:31:08] I don't know how much you guys know about this, but this breach.

[00:31:10] So are you more worried about Salt Typhoon, more worried about TikTok, or more worried about your own government spying on you, Lance?

[00:31:18] I mean, look, I think you always have to worry about this government spying on you.

[00:31:23] You know, I think it's interesting, this Salt Typhoon compromise.

[00:31:27] It's a big deal.

[00:31:29] But is it something that we have to pay attention to?

[00:31:32] Well, absolutely.

[00:31:33] In this day and age, when you live online, when all your information lives online, let's face it, the amount of information in people's cell phones is extremely dangerous.

[00:31:43] You know, Apple just made an announcement about accessing information on cell phones.

[00:31:48] And there's some real vulnerabilities that are going on right now.

[00:31:51] They just came out with it.

[00:31:52] I think they just made the announcement a couple, maybe a day or two ago.

[00:31:55] This is a big issue.

[00:31:56] When you live your whole life digitally online, you have to worry about that.

[00:32:00] But look, I think TikTok's an issue.

[00:32:01] I think there's lots of things.

[00:32:02] It's a multi-front war, and we have to pay attention to everything going on around us.

[00:32:06] I think there's a lot to be concerned about.

[00:32:08] Are you more concerned about your government, the FBI, the CIA, the Department of Justice, or the Communist Chinese Party via Salt Typhoon or via this TikTok app?

[00:32:18] Or, you know, what are you the most worried about, George?

[00:32:22] Well, our government.

[00:32:27] Yeah, I'm with you on this.

[00:32:28] You know why?

[00:32:29] Because they're in bed with CCP China anyway.

[00:32:32] It's all in one, my opinion.

[00:32:35] And that's kind of the point that I'm making with this discussion.

[00:32:38] If we fix our government, we don't have to worry about.

[00:32:41] They'll go after CCP if we fix our three-letter agencies.

[00:32:45] Yeah, now they're threatened by this.

[00:32:47] They're threatened by this so much so that Elon Musk, they say, who has never been elected to public office, now has the largest megaphone.

[00:32:57] Even larger than Donald Trump himself, they say.

[00:33:00] And they go in and say the president-elect has 96.2 million followers on X, while Mr. Elon Musk has 207.9 million viewers on X.

[00:33:16] Musk is also far richer than Trump, according to the Bloomberg Millionaire's Index.

[00:33:24] I guess it's the Billionaire's Index is what they call this thing.

[00:33:27] They say, you know, Musk is worth $458 billion.

[00:33:32] $458 billion.

[00:33:33] Where Trump is, I guess, only worth like $6.6 billion.

[00:33:38] He's kind of a pauper in comparison.

[00:33:41] A pauper.

[00:33:42] $6.6 billion.

[00:33:44] Barely getting by with that little $6.6 billion.

[00:33:47] Just barely speaking by.

[00:33:48] Compared to, you know, $400-plus billion, though, hey, it's all relative.

[00:33:52] The question becomes, are you concerned about Elon Musk, George?

[00:33:56] Am I concerned about Elon Musk?

[00:34:02] Right now, not so much because he's on our side.

[00:34:06] But, you know, listen, it's capitalism.

[00:34:11] You can't say you want capitalism and then want to hurt the guy that's, you know, making it through capitalism.

[00:34:21] So, yeah, but how much capitalism do we got?

[00:34:25] In other words, how much free enterprise versus, you know, this naked capitalist deal where, you know, money's king over all morals and use government to pull the lever in your favor and partner with government and everything else?

[00:34:36] So, I don't know, man.

[00:34:38] At some point, is it really capitalism, Lance?

[00:34:42] You know, at the end of the day, first of all, who is they?

[00:34:47] Who's saying that they, that Elon Musk has more influence than Trump?

[00:34:50] So, I'm always going to look at the source first.

[00:34:52] So, when you ask me a question like that, I'm thinking, okay, well, who's they?

[00:34:55] We've heard they a lot.

[00:34:57] Yeah, that's a fair point.

[00:34:59] I think this is one of those situations.

[00:35:01] The mainstream press.

[00:35:03] Well, I want to make a comment.

[00:35:05] They don't trust them.

[00:35:05] Let's talk about the press for a second.

[00:35:07] Did everybody notice how quiet, right after the election, after they got their butts handed to them, everybody went quiet.

[00:35:14] You know, the big media sources went quiet.

[00:35:17] All the different, you know, online social media influencers that have been talking trash, they went quiet.

[00:35:23] And I have a theory on that.

[00:35:25] I have a theory that they went quiet because the pay contracts they had and the pay agreements they had to perpetuate these narratives, they were unsure of.

[00:35:36] They weren't sure they were going to get paid anymore.

[00:35:37] You know, Harris wasn't going to be paying anybody.

[00:35:39] She was $20 million or $10 million in debt.

[00:35:41] After her $1.2 or $3 billion campaign run, she spent money like it was going out of style, paying people like, you know, Oprah Winfrey $10 million for a town hall, paying Beyonce $10 million for four minutes on stage.

[00:35:57] Things like that, right?

[00:35:58] We know about that now.

[00:35:59] So the they, to me, when they come out and they attack a guy like Elon Musk and they say, oh, he's got more influence.

[00:36:06] Oh, he's a danger to America.

[00:36:07] He's a danger to our democracy.

[00:36:09] You know, that's one of their famous lines, right?

[00:36:11] When they controlled all those news stations.

[00:36:14] Let me tell you something.

[00:36:15] I'm not buying any of it.

[00:36:16] At the end of the day, I don't really know Elon Musk.

[00:36:19] I only know what I know of him online.

[00:36:20] And my point is that the guy seems to want to fix the country.

[00:36:24] Now, is it self-serving?

[00:36:25] Sure.

[00:36:25] If the country goes belly up, you know, Elon Musk's businesses are going to be dramatically impacted.

[00:36:31] If the U.S. dollar fails, Elon Musk's business is going to be dramatically impacted.

[00:36:35] So does he have a reason to want to fight for America?

[00:36:38] Personal reasons?

[00:36:39] Self-serving reasons?

[00:36:41] Absolutely he does.

[00:36:42] But at the end of the day, he seems in his own right to really want to fix the country just like Donald Trump.

[00:36:47] So, of course, when Sam Bushman wants to fix the country, well, then Sam Bushman's a danger to our democracy.

[00:36:54] When Elon Musk wants to fix the country, Elon Musk is a danger to our democracy.

[00:37:00] Donald Trump, oh, Project 2025, and oh, he's going to stop all abortion, and he's going to ruin the country, and he's going to take away Social Security.

[00:37:08] You know, those are the narratives, right?

[00:37:10] But the truth is, Social Security, well, this current government stole $2.2 trillion from Social Security, and they've never once mentioned how they're going to pay it back.

[00:37:18] That means all the people out there, this is great for the listeners, all the people out there that are on Social Security, did you guys know you should be getting nearly double right now if they hadn't stolen that money?

[00:37:28] You're right.

[00:37:28] You know you'd be getting nearly double the payment you're supposed to get?

[00:37:30] So when does they become just a bunch of more garbage?

[00:37:34] To me, they is one of those things.

[00:37:34] Well, they are.

[00:37:35] And here's the proof in the headlines that they read, or that they write.

[00:37:39] They say, hey, he's never been elected to office.

[00:37:44] But he has the biggest megaphone everywhere.

[00:37:48] Well, was it a prerequisite to build a big media company or to buy a big media company to hold office?

[00:37:53] They make it sound like he's done something wrong by, well, he hasn't held office, but now he controls the whole world.

[00:37:59] No, this is Twitter that got sold.

[00:38:03] They literally tried to force Trump to buy it.

[00:38:06] They claimed Twitter was going, Twitter was going to fail, that Twitter was just under his hands was a nothing burger.

[00:38:12] And they painted that all day long.

[00:38:14] Now they say he's got the biggest megaphone in the world.

[00:38:16] And how dare he because he hasn't ran for office before?

[00:38:19] Who are these psychotic clowns?

[00:38:21] You don't have to run for office to have your free speech and your First Amendment.

[00:38:25] He has every right to buy and build and run whatever media company he wants to.

[00:38:29] So do I and so do you.

[00:38:31] And this propaganda that somehow he's a big threat because he's done well.

[00:38:35] Well, they said that, hey, Trump was going to ruin the economy.

[00:38:38] Quite the contrary.

[00:38:39] Now they're saying, oh, Twitter's nothing.

[00:38:41] It's going to fail under his horrible leadership.

[00:38:43] Everybody's going to leave the country and leave Twitter.

[00:38:46] And it's going to be.

[00:38:46] And now they're like, oh, my gosh, it's bigger, badder, better than ever.

[00:38:50] Now what do we do?

[00:38:51] So they write propagandistic lies and want you to believe that somehow he's got to run for office to have a big media outlet.

[00:38:59] Why does he have to do that?

[00:39:01] I don't need to run for office.

[00:39:02] I've never run for office.

[00:39:04] I don't intend to run for office either.

[00:39:06] But I hope to have influence.

[00:39:07] Maybe I'm not as big of an influence as some of these other people.

[00:39:11] It doesn't matter.

[00:39:12] My point is they're manipulating the masses with absolute gaslighting, George.

[00:39:19] Yeah, they're just afraid of him.

[00:39:21] But you know what?

[00:39:22] What about how come they ain't denouncing George Soros?

[00:39:25] Because they love George.

[00:39:27] That uses his influence and money to buy DAs and get them elected.

[00:39:31] Didn't he just buy a whole radio station network to influence the media that way?

[00:39:38] No, I don't hear anybody crying about that saying all that.

[00:39:40] Good point.

[00:39:41] Good point, George.

[00:39:43] Yeah.

[00:39:43] Yeah.

[00:39:44] Exactly right.

[00:39:45] Make Elon Musk great again.

[00:39:47] That's all I'm going to say.

[00:39:49] Well, all I'm saying is he has every right to own this company.

[00:39:51] He has every right to run it the way he wants.

[00:39:53] He has every right to fire a bunch of employees and make it profitable again.

[00:39:56] He has every right to use that megaphone any way he wants to.

[00:39:59] This is American freedom, and if you don't like it, build your own rag.

[00:40:02] Build your own media company.

[00:40:04] Okay?

[00:40:05] I've built my own media company.

[00:40:07] Now, it's tiny compared to these guys, but that isn't the point.

[00:40:09] The point is, hey, I have every right that he does, and I'm going to defend his right just like I have.

[00:40:15] Same thing with Alex Jones.

[00:40:16] Hey, why force him to sell his media company?

[00:40:20] If you say he crossed the line, liable and slandered people, fine.

[00:40:23] Charge him the penalty and move on.

[00:40:25] But, see, they're afraid of us, and this is proof, Lance.

[00:40:29] I mean, no doubt.

[00:40:31] They do not want us to fight back.

[00:40:33] It's done through coercion and intimidation.

[00:40:35] You know, we had John Eastman, Trump, you know, Dr. John Eastman on last night on the show,

[00:40:40] Trump's ex-attorney who's being prosecuted all across the country for him coming up with constitutional arguments

[00:40:47] of how they could overturn the criminal election.

[00:40:51] Of course, that's not what the media says, right?

[00:40:52] The media says, oh, it was a free and fair election.

[00:40:54] That Joe, dementia, Alzheimer's, Biden won legitimately.

[00:40:58] You know, that he worked from the basement of his Delaware home and took more vacations than any other person in history.

[00:41:05] And he is capable of becoming president of the United States.

[00:41:08] He got the most votes ever in the history of the United States.

[00:41:10] We know that to not be true.

[00:41:12] We've seen more and more evidence come out.

[00:41:13] But yet here's John Eastman having to defend the attacks because they don't want John Eastman in play.

[00:41:18] Why?

[00:41:18] Because he's highly intelligent, highly articulate, well-spoken, well-educated.

[00:41:23] And he's a guy that's taking Trump's side saying, well, legally, the Constitution, here's how it works and here's what should be happening.

[00:41:30] Of course, Mike Pence, the coward, you know, was in opposition to what needed to be done because he didn't have the fortitude or the honesty or, in fact, was probably already compromised for his own sexual proclivity.

[00:41:44] So, of course, they probably use that.

[00:41:46] But that's the point, right?

[00:41:47] They don't need or want Sam Bushman in play because Sam Bushman, who's been in the business for a very long time, is highly educated, focuses on investigative journalism.

[00:41:56] Oh, he's dangerous.

[00:41:57] So, oh, he's a danger to our democracy.

[00:41:59] Of course, they've got to go after Elon Musk because here's a guy that not only has a brain, who obviously is highly intentional.

[00:42:07] I mean, let's face it, the guy's doing rockets.

[00:42:09] I mean, he's created the most successful, you know, electronic, you know, electric vehicle on the planet as far as comparisons.

[00:42:16] I think the value of Tesla now exceeds the value of all other big car manufacturers, U.S. car manufacturers.

[00:42:23] I think it's got a higher valuation.

[00:42:24] So here's a guy that walks the walk, talks the talk.

[00:42:28] He has a serious armory of money, the richest guy on the planet currently.

[00:42:34] So, of course, they're afraid of Elon Musk because he's also very outspoken because, let's face it, you know, I can't use those words on radio, but we know what he told media when they told him he couldn't do something and they were going to pull all their advertising from X.

[00:42:49] He was very vocal about it and correctly so.

[00:42:52] They have used their power.

[00:42:54] The government has used its power.

[00:42:55] And big corporate America has used its financial influence to hamstrung many businesses, including our own.

[00:43:01] Let's face it, conservative media.

[00:43:03] How difficult is it, Sam, to get money invested when you're conservative media?

[00:43:09] It's very difficult because nobody wants to, you know, it's the chicken and the egg kind of discussion.

[00:43:13] Everybody wants a profit, but yet they want you to be big so they can get a profit, but yet they don't want to help you to get big.

[00:43:18] You know, it's a little bit insane.

[00:43:21] The liberals have found ways to scrape money from the government to do their bidding.

[00:43:25] The liberals put money where their mouth is oftentimes.

[00:43:28] Conservatives haven't really done so, like a George Soros, until an Elon Musk.

[00:43:33] And at first, when it was a Mark Zuckerberg and the George, you know, clowns, George Soros and all these people, they didn't mind that the big guys had control.

[00:43:44] Now that a Musk and a Trump and these people have some control, now they're going, wait a minute, hold on, what do we do?

[00:43:50] Well, look at the investment of our own government.

[00:43:52] And the sad part is I see them just gaslighting everyone.

[00:43:54] Look at the CIA and Grafica and Department of Homeland Security.

[00:43:58] We saw it in the Twitter files.

[00:44:00] We know that they're deeply ingrained into Facebook.

[00:44:02] We've even heard the point that the CIA has invested money in Facebook.

[00:44:06] If you take a look at the staffing over at Facebook, there are tons of ex-CIA employees working for Facebook.

[00:44:12] I don't know if they retired earlier or if they were, you know, positioned over there.

[00:44:16] My point is that, of course, they don't want Elon Musk to have the influence he has.

[00:44:20] Of course, they're going to say he's more powerful.

[00:44:22] Of course, they're trying to – what they're doing is trying to use Elon Musk to get Trump to be irritated that, oh, gosh, is Elon Musk – because we know Trump has an ego.

[00:44:30] They're trying to create some kind of, you know, kind of conflict in between Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

[00:44:35] Hopefully, Donald Trump won't bite.

[00:44:36] I hope he doesn't because at the end of the day, we have a country to save.

[00:44:39] But this is what's going on.

[00:44:40] And at the end of the day, Musk has every right to advocate – I can be thorough against the bill.

[00:44:46] 100 percent.

[00:44:47] And Musk can be for and against the spending bill.

[00:44:50] And somehow they want you to believe that somehow he's somehow exploited and taken advantage of our system.

[00:44:57] And they kind of want you to believe somehow it's wrong, it's immoral, it's borders on criminal.

[00:45:02] And it couldn't be further from the truth.

[00:45:04] Now, I do have the desire to kind of attack Tucker Carlson a little bit here.

[00:45:10] Tucker Carlson delivered a strong message to Republican senators during a speech at Turning Point USA last weekend.

[00:45:18] Carlson made it very clear that, hey, any Republican senator that stands against Tulsi Gabbard, you know, Trump's director of national intelligence, would be considered a, quote, enemy to the country.

[00:45:31] Now, I'm not here to debate whether Gabbard should be there or not necessarily.

[00:45:36] I like a lot of what she does.

[00:45:37] I'm concerned on her lack of pro-life stance.

[00:45:41] But, look, there could be senators that vote against that for their own reasons.

[00:45:45] That doesn't mean they're an enemy to the country.

[00:45:46] This is ultimate gaslighting by Tucker, and it's got to stop.

[00:45:53] What do you say, Lance?

[00:45:55] Is it really if you vote against Tulsi, you're an enemy to the country?

[00:45:57] Tucker Carlson, you know, he's a very outspoken guy, you know.

[00:46:02] What do I say?

[00:46:03] You know, I'm never surprised at what Tucker Carlson has to say.

[00:46:06] I think most of the time he's over the target.

[00:46:09] And I will say this.

[00:46:10] He's also extremely well, you know, let me say this.

[00:46:16] Let me think about how to say this.

[00:46:18] He knows a lot of stuff that's going on that the rest of us don't.

[00:46:21] So when he comes to a conclusion, it's usually because his sources have provided him information that the rest of us don't have.

[00:46:28] I agree.

[00:46:29] Because there is no doubt that what I have heard from people that know Tucker Carlson personally,

[00:46:33] I happen to know somebody that talks to Tucker Carlson a couple times a week on a regular basis.

[00:46:38] And he tells me that the amount of sources and people that come to Tucker Carlson with information is just—

[00:46:45] Oh, it's tremendous.

[00:46:45] It's a tsunami of information.

[00:46:48] But I'm just saying, I might vote against Tulsi if I was a senator, but it doesn't mean I'm an enemy to the country is the point.

[00:46:53] Yeah, I get you.

[00:46:54] I understand what you're saying.

[00:46:55] And we need to be very careful when we start making, you know, statements like that that, in my opinion, are propaganda.

[00:47:01] They're gaslighting people.

[00:47:02] They're making you believe that, you know, besmirching someone's vote for whatever reason.

[00:47:07] I've also got a big old shame to Steve Bannon.

[00:47:10] He backs increasing taxes on wealthy Americans.

[00:47:14] Did you see this?

[00:47:14] He doubled down in defense of this and says, hey, he's backing this tax increase for the wealthy.

[00:47:20] And I don't want to run around and tax the other guy harder.

[00:47:22] Let's just cut spending, Lance.

[00:47:25] I agree.

[00:47:26] At the end of the day, I think that every time they—you know, let's face it.

[00:47:29] When you start adding in payroll tax, property tax, sales tax, income tax, state and federal, capital gains tax, inheritance tax,

[00:47:39] you start looking at all these taxes and you start really analyzing how difficult it is to get your money to the bottom line of your savings account for your own personal needs.

[00:47:49] It's ridiculous.

[00:47:50] I'm tired of it.

[00:47:51] I don't want a bloated government.

[00:47:53] I don't want to—this government we've got is absolutely beyond the scope of anything I'm interested in having.

[00:47:58] I want reduced government.

[00:48:00] So when I hear that Doja, when I hear that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk want to focus on taking us down to under 100 government agencies, I'm all for it.

[00:48:09] I don't need all this garbage out of there.

[00:48:12] I don't need the FDA and the Board of Education and all these other departments with a bunch of employees.

[00:48:17] Right now, do you know we're spending $15 billion a year on leases, government leases for government buildings, where the occupancy rate is below 10% by the staff?

[00:48:31] It's insane.

[00:48:32] And I suspect it's just going to do nothing but get worse, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:48:36] I don't know really what to do about it, but I look at the Rand Paul report that just got released, for example.

[00:48:43] Senator Rand Paul unveils what they call the 10th annual Festivus, highlighting basically that they spend over a trillion dollars in government waste, cocaine for rats, all kinds of weird crap that they spent money on and everything else.

[00:48:58] And Rand says, hey, here's the report to help Doja get started.

[00:49:01] And I say amen to that.

[00:49:07] What do you say to that, George?

[00:49:09] You're for the start with the Rand Paul report?

[00:49:12] Let Doja go to town?

[00:49:14] I, hell yeah, let Doja go to town.

[00:49:16] We got to start, listen, we got to get this done.

[00:49:20] We have less than two years to get things done and moving.

[00:49:24] Because let's face it, we don't know what's going to happen in our next election if we'll hold the House or Senate.

[00:49:31] Who knows at this point?

[00:49:32] But we need to get it done.

[00:49:35] If Mealy, Argentinian President Mealy can do it in a year, so can we.

[00:49:42] We definitely can.

[00:49:43] We just need to get rid of the dumb people that are talking, that are fighting it, and just get it done.

[00:49:49] I mean, let's probably abolish the IRS.

[00:49:55] Let's get rid of them.

[00:49:56] If you need some IRS, all right.

[00:49:57] But make the code where you don't have all these phrases and all this literature in there just to confuse people.

[00:50:05] They do it on purpose.

[00:50:07] Just make it a simple code if we're going to have to keep it.

[00:50:11] Well, let's not have direct taxes, though.

[00:50:12] Let's just put tariffs at the border and emboss the IRS.

[00:50:14] That's all.

[00:50:16] I'm game for that.

[00:50:16] All you got to do is figure out the dollars and have a net, not a gain or a loss, just a net reality switch over, and you're done, Lance.

[00:50:23] I mean, look, at the end of the day, I agree with that.

[00:50:26] Let's get rid of the Fed.

[00:50:28] I like Rand Paul.

[00:50:29] I like the theory behind this.

[00:50:30] Enough's enough.

[00:50:31] Since when do we need companies like the IRS and like the Federal Reserve that are independent?

[00:50:37] Let's face it.

[00:50:37] The IRS is a collection arm for the interest that we're getting charged to print our currency and paying interest on money that has no backing.

[00:50:47] The Federal Reserve is a scam, and enough is enough.

[00:50:50] I want to put that scam to bed.

[00:50:52] I'm done with it.

[00:50:52] I don't really – I think those people should all be put on the international terrorist watch list, and at that point, you could go military deployment, and I think we should seize back all their money and all their financial assets they made on the back of our country.

[00:51:05] So at the end of the day, I'm in agreement.

[00:51:07] I think the IRS being a collection arm for the Federal Reserve, enough is enough.

[00:51:13] Well, we should get rid of the Federal Reserve, too.

[00:51:15] Why not?

[00:51:15] Let's just –

[00:51:16] Yeah.

[00:51:16] Agreed.

[00:51:18] Audit and abolish the Fed.

[00:51:20] So, George, how much do you think Trump will get done?

[00:51:22] He's got so much on his plate.

[00:51:24] We've got to be fair.

[00:51:24] He's only one guy.

[00:51:25] We can all help, and we're offering our services at this very moment.

[00:51:28] How much do you think will really get done?

[00:51:30] Because what they've done now is they've managed to wait while he's in office about 60 days, and then he's got to go ahead and renew the government spending deal, and that's going to be very difficult indeed.

[00:51:39] And I think they should have shut the government down.

[00:51:41] I highlighted this.

[00:51:41] They should have shut the government down, handed Joe a complete failure.

[00:51:46] Well, I think it's –

[00:51:47] But no, they gave Joe kind of wings, and they're going to make it difficult for President Trump now.

[00:51:51] Well, let's – I think it's – let's see what they're going to do when they vote for who's going to be Speaker of the House and how that goes.

[00:51:59] And that would just be a telltale sign.

[00:52:01] He's going to be the man.

[00:52:02] Ivan Raiklin wants to be Speaker of the House.

[00:52:04] Did you see that?

[00:52:06] All right.

[00:52:08] Now, some are saying that Elon Musk or Vivek Ramaswamy should be Speaker of the House.

[00:52:12] No, Elon Musk won't do it.

[00:52:15] The dude's got – he's so busy, he don't got time for that.

[00:52:18] He ain't going to do it.

[00:52:19] He don't need to do it.

[00:52:22] Yeah.

[00:52:23] I don't know.

[00:52:24] Anyway, it's very – it's very interesting.

[00:52:26] We're going to watch this even unfold.

[00:52:26] How about Matt Gaeth for Speaker of the House?

[00:52:29] Well, I support it.

[00:52:31] Well, me too.

[00:52:33] I support it.

[00:52:34] Like I say, he did a lot of good getting rid of the first thug, and then he ran into a buzzsaw.

[00:52:38] He's going to follow his own team for Mike Johnson, but I'm for getting rid of Mike Johnson, too.

[00:52:41] He's a clown.

[00:52:42] All right.

[00:52:42] Let's talk about getting Trump's agenda through.

[00:52:44] Because if you see what's going on right now with the way some Senate Republicans want to vote no for some of Trump's nominations,

[00:52:55] that's just a sign of, like, what's to come.

[00:52:58] The Republicans, there's no unity.

[00:53:00] One thing I give credit to the Democrats is no matter what, when it comes to Bill, they vote together.

[00:53:06] Let's face it.

[00:53:07] That's right.

[00:53:08] They're the only reason why this bill, this spending bill got passed, because they voted for it.

[00:53:14] Yeah, and they shouldn't have done it.

[00:53:15] They should have shut it down.

[00:53:16] Last quick point that Lance brought up on one of the last breaks.

[00:53:19] Hey, is it going to really be Joe Biden turning over the reins to Donald Trump, or will it be Kamala?

[00:53:26] Lance?

[00:53:27] Well, there's a lot of chatter.

[00:53:30] You know, I'm looking at it even right now as we're speaking.

[00:53:32] I've been looking around.

[00:53:34] There's a lot of people talking about that Biden's going to quietly step down.

[00:53:39] Now, I feel like he's already done that.

[00:53:41] I feel like he's already not making the decisions that are going on there.

[00:53:44] Not that I think he's made those decisions for a very long time.

[00:53:46] But there are a lot of people saying that Kamala Harris is still going to have an opportunity to be president of the United States.

[00:53:52] I don't think so.

[00:53:53] You know why?

[00:53:54] Because that put in jeopardy everything he's just done, like signing Hunter's pardon.

[00:53:59] They could say, oh, he wasn't right frame of mind and use that to pull that back and other pardons and all that stuff.

[00:54:04] So I'm saying no.

[00:54:06] I'm giving it to wait and see.

[00:54:08] I'm going to give it to wait and see.

[00:54:09] What's another 20-something days with some Adderall and drugs in him to keep him going?

[00:54:14] I don't know.

[00:54:14] We shall keep an eye on the ball is the bottom line.

[00:54:17] You want to know why?

[00:54:17] Because this is Liberty News Radio, baby.

[00:54:20] Tell you that right now.

[00:54:21] A lot of topics up in the air.

[00:54:23] It's uncharted territory, to say the least.

[00:54:26] Keep an eye on the ball.

[00:54:27] Keep your constitution and your powder dry, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:54:30] Make sure you have food, because pretty soon there might be a famine in this land, too.

[00:54:33] We didn't get to it, but man, that's a serious threat as the price of eggs are through the roof,

[00:54:38] and everybody and their dog has had all kinds of recalls of food products.

[00:54:42] Are you worried?

[00:54:43] All right.

[00:54:44] God save the republic, and Merry Christmas.