Radio Show Hour 2 – 12/17/2024

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West.

[00:00:18] You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:01:17] The Liberty Roundtable Live, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:01:48] My name is Sam Bushman, hard-hitting talk at your fingertips.

[00:01:52] Our goal always, unique from any other program, that is to promote God, family, and country,

[00:01:58] and to protect life, liberty, and property, and to do so in the traditions of our founding fathers.

[00:02:03] This is the broadcast for Tuesday, December the 17th, in the year of our Lord, 2024.

[00:02:09] And speaking of 2024 and the year of our Lord and everything else, I heard Steve Bannon.

[00:02:15] He's starting to say in the year of our Lord this and that now, too.

[00:02:18] I wonder who he's listening to, Sheriff Mack.

[00:02:23] I hope he's listening to you and me and all the other constitutional-oriented public officials across the country.

[00:02:34] Well, we know that he is from his response when you were on his program.

[00:02:38] Sheriff Mack on Steve Bannon.

[00:02:41] Kind of an interesting deal.

[00:02:43] You've been able to be on his show several times over the last couple of days, or a couple of weeks, I should say,

[00:02:49] because people are really listening, aren't they?

[00:02:52] It appears so.

[00:02:53] And, yeah, it seems to be a message that's resonating with a lot of people in high places.

[00:03:03] All right, I'm going to play this soundbite.

[00:03:05] It's the Steve Bannon show.

[00:03:07] Sheriff Mack joins Steve Bannon.

[00:03:09] Here it is, then we'll talk about it.

[00:03:14] Sheriff Mack, by the way, good call the other day, sir.

[00:03:16] I know the president thinks very highly of you and your organization.

[00:03:21] I'm sure he took that to heart in this decision.

[00:03:25] Walk me through.

[00:03:25] Your complaints were not just about Democrats, but also you have some very specific ideas about DEA having worked with them.

[00:03:34] What are the characteristics that the president should be looking for for the head of DEA?

[00:03:43] Well, first and foremost, thank you for helping us with that, because this was a very poor choice,

[00:03:50] and Trump would have lived to regret it later.

[00:03:52] So we're glad Chronister's out of the way.

[00:03:55] He should have never been considered.

[00:03:57] And I'm really glad, though, Steve, I've got to tell you, I'm really glad that the president is looking at sheriffs to be part of his administration.

[00:04:06] If we're going to really clean up Washington, D.C., we've got to have a, quote, new sheriff in town,

[00:04:13] and someone who's not involved in Washington, D.C. politics and the elitism of Washington, D.C.,

[00:04:19] and who's a dedicated lawman and has experience in working drugs, especially near the border or at the border and across the border.

[00:04:30] And so, yes, I really praise President Trump for his leadership here and that he's looking at sheriffs.

[00:04:38] And one name that I told you already, if it were me, I would totally pick Sheriff Mark Lamb to be there.

[00:04:47] He's a dedicated lawman.

[00:04:48] He's honest.

[00:04:49] He's constitutional.

[00:04:51] And he's very experienced at the border.

[00:04:54] He's worked with President Trump before, and he would be a great choice.

[00:05:00] There are others.

[00:05:01] There's other great sheriffs in Florida.

[00:05:03] Sheriff Rick Staley would be great.

[00:05:05] Sheriff Grady Judd from Polk County would be great.

[00:05:09] Sheriff Dar Leaf, L-E-A-F, from Michigan would be a butt kicker for this administration.

[00:05:19] Just not DEA, but other positions, because you named a lot of sheriffs there that would be great to be in other parts of the administration,

[00:05:28] DHS, maybe even assistant over the FBI, because Cash is going to clear a clean house there.

[00:05:35] What other parts of the government do you think the sheriffs are to be part of?

[00:05:41] Definitely anything to do with helping Cash.

[00:05:44] Get him some deputies and assistants that are sheriffs from all walks of life and are all parts of the country.

[00:05:55] Sheriff Mark Lamb, probably, I don't think anybody could beat him at all.

[00:06:02] I told you before, even when they picked Cash, that I thought Sheriff Mark Lamb should be a part of it, part of the Justice Department, part of the FBI.

[00:06:13] DEA, absolutely.

[00:06:15] The DEA has had some corruption problems in the past.

[00:06:19] They're deep state people, and getting a sheriff in there to clean it up is absolutely vital.

[00:06:25] So, yes, I would love to volunteer my services to President Trump to help him pick someone who he would totally trust and would have his back in all of this going on.

[00:06:40] And I would recommend, I've already done this with Tom Homan, I recommend that he get some sheriffs to help him.

[00:06:49] There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:06:51] That was Sheriff Mack on the Steve Bannon Show.

[00:06:54] And, you know, we've issued several press releases over the last couple of weeks, a couple of months, and everything else.

[00:06:59] We have been listened to at the top echelons of what's going to be the United States government, how we endorsed Cash Patel.

[00:07:08] Steve's friend got a hold of me and said, hey, would you consider supporting, you know, Cash?

[00:07:13] I said, of course I would.

[00:07:14] And he goes, well, man, Cash doesn't really know it.

[00:07:17] I positively talked about him on the radio, and then he goes, yeah, you know what?

[00:07:21] If there's an endorsement, it would be great.

[00:07:23] I didn't even think about it.

[00:07:25] I'm like, sure, I'll put one of those in writing.

[00:07:26] So I did so.

[00:07:27] Sheriff Mack decided he wanted to do so.

[00:07:29] We literally put out a press release to support Cash Patel.

[00:07:32] And now we're basically saying, hey, let's have some influence on not only the DEA but the FBI on the proper role of law enforcement.

[00:07:40] Let's talk about how sheriffs can help across the country with border issues and a whole lot more.

[00:07:45] So we're supporting and involved with and in touch with Tom Holman on this kind of stuff.

[00:07:49] Tom Holman has said, hey, he wants to work with us.

[00:07:53] Donald Trump, through Steve Bannon, said, hey, appreciates the CSPOA and what Richard Mack has done and that he wants to work with us.

[00:08:00] What I find fascinating, Sheriff, is the whole world knows it.

[00:08:04] From Steve Bannon to, I mean, I can keep going.

[00:08:07] You've been on what?

[00:08:08] How many shows in the last year?

[00:08:11] Oh, the last year, probably 500.

[00:08:15] How many in the last month or six weeks or whatever it is?

[00:08:19] The last three months, it's been right around 130, 140.

[00:08:25] So think about that, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:08:27] That is massive, massive numbers.

[00:08:31] I'm just the CEO of the CSPOA, and I get calls from all kinds of places.

[00:08:36] Fox News, NPR, everybody else, their dog has contacted me, and I don't get half of the involvement that Sheriff Mack ends up getting calls about and focused on and everything else.

[00:08:46] But here's what's fascinating.

[00:08:48] There's a reporter that got a hold of you, Sheriff, right?

[00:08:51] Yeah, and he's one of the – I was just going to mention, there's been three different reporters and media outlets from London.

[00:09:01] And David Gilbert is the one.

[00:09:03] I think he's from Wired.

[00:09:06] That's right.

[00:09:07] Many of them are liberal outlets.

[00:09:10] I don't vet them.

[00:09:14] I'm open to anybody from across the globe.

[00:09:17] If they want to talk to us and hear the truth, obviously, they have a reason for contacting us and the CSPOA, which is fine.

[00:09:28] It shows that we're not just national, but we're moving international with all of this.

[00:09:34] Australia sent reporters here to talk with Jerry Sheridan and me during the campaign.

[00:09:42] So that was just – I'd say that was two months ago, two and a half months ago.

[00:09:47] And by the way, you were seriously involved in the third largest campaign for sheriff in the country, and he won.

[00:09:53] Yeah.

[00:09:53] Get a lot of that.

[00:09:54] And as a matter of fact, tomorrow, Sam, is his – Jerry Sheridan's – sheriff-elect Jerry Sheridan, his swearing-in ceremony.

[00:10:08] And Don and I have been invited to attend that, and so we canceled a couple of interviews tomorrow so that we could be downtown Phoenix at the sheriff's office where he's going to be sworn in.

[00:10:21] And it was a huge part of our lives.

[00:10:23] His campaign was a huge part of our lives.

[00:10:26] And I've never worked that hard on a campaign since the last time I ran for office.

[00:10:32] And I'm really thrilled.

[00:10:34] One is – I think I told you this.

[00:10:37] I told Jerry that I would not endorse him until he got the approval of his campaign and highest advisors, including his wife.

[00:10:47] And he came back, and he said, everyone wants your endorsement.

[00:10:51] Yeah, so put that in your pipe and smoke it, you liberal clowns in the media.

[00:10:55] Let's go.

[00:10:57] From Steve Bannon to Jerry Sheridan and right on through, we're making a difference, and we're taking names, and we're absolutely helping with the cause.

[00:11:04] It's important to know that sheriff in Florida that Donald Trump almost got in place was a disaster.

[00:11:10] We are the only sheriff's organization to speak truth to power on that, get national recognition for it, and stop the appointment, Sheriff Mack.

[00:11:19] Now, I'm not saying we're exclusively responsible.

[00:11:22] Others helped as well.

[00:11:23] But we cannot pretend we didn't have a role in that.

[00:11:26] Well, some of the others that helped were our people in Florida, the CSPOA members in Florida that went after it also.

[00:11:33] And then there was a citizen that really put it out nationwide, and he had 100,000 or so hits.

[00:11:41] And there were people who were concerned, people who live in Hillsborough County, which is the greater Tampa area.

[00:11:49] And they know this man.

[00:11:50] And Chronister has been used by me and you in many of our presentations to give an example of what a good constitutional sheriff is not, and that he's just the opposite of what we wanted.

[00:12:07] I compare him with Sheriff Glenn Hamilton.

[00:12:10] I said this is the tale of two sheriffs.

[00:12:12] On one hand, we have Sheriff Chronister, who arrested a pastor for simply having church in the United States of America for having church.

[00:12:21] They arrested a pastor in America.

[00:12:24] The hall of shame, people.

[00:12:25] The hall of shame for that one.

[00:12:26] Yes, of course.

[00:12:27] And then we compare him to Glenn Hamilton, who in New Mexico did just the opposite for a pastor who told him,

[00:12:34] I'm not going to close down.

[00:12:36] The government doesn't run my church.

[00:12:38] Jesus Christ runs my church.

[00:12:39] I'm not going to close it down.

[00:12:41] And I want to know what you'll do to protect us.

[00:12:44] So, of course, he did.

[00:12:46] And Sheriff Hamilton stood up to the state police and told him that he deputized everybody in the church and that they're under his authority and that they will remain open.

[00:12:56] The state police left and never came back.

[00:12:58] And he never heard another word from them because he was courageous and creative enough to defend this man, just the opposite of Chronister.

[00:13:06] And we did not want the opposite of a good constitutional sheriff to be in any part of the Trump administration.

[00:13:13] Trump was humble enough to recognize that there was a mistake made and that he trusted somebody within his transition team to prick Chronister when there couldn't have been too many other even staunch Democrat sheriffs that could have been worse.

[00:13:32] And yet he calls himself a Republican, but he doesn't do anything according to the Republican Party or their platform or the constitutional sheriffs and our platform.

[00:13:45] Nothing.

[00:13:45] He is the opposite.

[00:13:47] And so glad we got help to get rid of him.

[00:13:50] Amen to that.

[00:13:51] Now, by the way, this is classic, though.

[00:13:53] What they do on one hand, Sheriff, is on one hand, they try to say you're a nobody and you don't matter and you've been out of being a sheriff for so long, you're completely irrelevant.

[00:14:01] And they say the same things about me.

[00:14:03] Sam, you know, your talk show is tiny.

[00:14:05] You don't matter.

[00:14:06] A hell of beans.

[00:14:07] And, you know, whatever you say is extreme and crazy.

[00:14:09] But what's fascinating about this is on one hand, they make those claims when they want to, you know, detract from us.

[00:14:17] But the fact is, when push comes to shove, we matter so much.

[00:14:23] They literally spend war chests.

[00:14:25] They literally spend all their time and efforts trying to stop us from.

[00:14:29] Yeah, we don't mean anything.

[00:14:31] The things we're doing.

[00:14:31] It's fascinating.

[00:14:33] Yeah.

[00:14:33] No one asked you to call me.

[00:14:35] Leave me alone.

[00:14:36] Quit lying about me in your periodicals.

[00:14:39] And quit talking to me.

[00:14:41] Okay?

[00:14:42] They can't.

[00:14:44] Because they know the truth.

[00:14:45] And people say, Sam, how do you know how many people are listening?

[00:14:48] Or how do you know?

[00:14:48] I don't keep track of that like all the other clowns.

[00:14:50] And the reason that I don't is because, again, I don't know if you know, but Telegram just had to.

[00:14:55] They said AI helped them get rid of 15 million groups over the last year.

[00:15:01] Well, I sure hope those groups weren't my listeners because they'd be all gone now.

[00:15:04] 15 million groups?

[00:15:05] You can't count on that stuff.

[00:15:06] Yeah.

[00:15:07] There's 15 million groups?

[00:15:09] That's what they say, 15 million groups.

[00:15:11] And then they say an individual.

[00:15:12] So you've got to kind of wonder what that means, right?

[00:15:15] How many groups?

[00:15:16] How many individuals?

[00:15:17] But nevertheless, it's a huge number of their base.

[00:15:21] And you kind of go, okay, Facebook has done the same thing.

[00:15:23] So has a lot of these groups.

[00:15:24] How many?

[00:15:25] Anyway, I digress, except for my point is I look at the action taken.

[00:15:30] And when I hear comments that I make parroted by big talk show hosts, I know that I'm having an impact.

[00:15:36] When I make a suggestion and I get absolutely flack because I'm right over the target, I know that I'm having an impact.

[00:15:43] I know when they basically start to say, Sam, the Southern Poverty Law Center to Congress, Richard Mack, Sam, James Edwards, our friend.

[00:15:53] You know, you guys are the nexus of hate and anti-government in America.

[00:15:55] Think about the word the nexus.

[00:15:57] That's on the congressional record two years in a row.

[00:15:59] And I call my congressman and my congressman says, yes, it's all true.

[00:16:03] It's there, but I can't do anything for you.

[00:16:05] And then I talk to the Southern Poverty Law Center and push back and threaten to sue them.

[00:16:10] On one hand, they say I'm a nobody.

[00:16:12] Sam, you're so inconsequential, you don't even matter.

[00:16:14] But then I'm thinking, why would you have on the congressional record that Richard Mack and Sam Bushman are this threat?

[00:16:22] Why would you literally?

[00:16:23] Okay, I don't even understand that.

[00:16:25] If I'm a nobody, why would you even give me the time of day?

[00:16:28] Anyway, the point is it's not about me, but sheriffs are starting to have the same attitude towards us.

[00:16:34] And we're starting to really vet who's who, Sheriff Mack, is the whole point.

[00:16:38] Yeah, but Sam, I'm a little bit patient with some of the sheriffs that are off target and some of them off their rockers.

[00:16:46] Because the national media brainwashing that has been very constant about the CSPOA and you and me, we know that propaganda schemes and brainwashing works.

[00:17:03] Yes, it does.

[00:17:04] And one, these sheriffs don't want the same to them.

[00:17:06] They don't want to be attacked like you and I've been attacked.

[00:17:08] So they don't want to be involved with us.

[00:17:10] And the other part is, and I don't mean this as a put down as much as just literal.

[00:17:17] There's so many of the sheriffs are so ignorant as to what really is going on and what they're really supposed to be doing and what they should be doing to save America.

[00:17:29] They don't even know, they're not even in the same planet when it comes to understanding their responsibility to protect liberty and protect the rights of their citizens.

[00:17:39] They don't get that.

[00:17:40] You're right about that.

[00:17:43] David Gilbert, he's over at Wired, emailed us and you specifically and said, hey, do you want to be able to respond to this?

[00:17:51] I don't know if you want to give the sheriff's name who said this or not, Sheriff.

[00:17:54] That's up to you.

[00:17:57] Yeah, I don't care.

[00:17:59] I don't care.

[00:17:59] So Sheriff Wilmont is his name.

[00:18:02] He's in Arizona.

[00:18:03] Yuma County, Arizona.

[00:18:05] All right.

[00:18:05] And so this David guy with Wired said, hey, Wilmot, what do you think about Sheriff Mack's idea that the sheriffs should be used to carry out mass deportations?

[00:18:19] Response from the sheriff.

[00:18:21] No one listens to him.

[00:18:23] He hasn't been a sheriff in a long time.

[00:18:25] He is not engaged with sheriffs across the country.

[00:18:29] He's not involved in any of our decision making.

[00:18:33] Wow.

[00:18:34] And he pushes his own agenda.

[00:18:36] Now, if that's not a hardcore effort to slam, I don't know what is.

[00:18:41] I don't know why Wilmot would say such a thing when President Trump and Steve Bannon seem to be willing to listen.

[00:18:48] This sheriff's flat out out of touch.

[00:18:51] And so Sheriff Mack wrote back in response to the comment that was made.

[00:18:56] And, you know, hey, we want you to be able to have a chance to respond, says David.

[00:19:00] And whether David's from a liberal organization, Wired or not, at least he honestly came to you and let you put something in writing that I think was just absolutely hit it out of the park stellar.

[00:19:11] Sheriff Mack makes 18 points followed up with a paragraph of how relevant what we're doing really is.

[00:19:20] Whether Wilmot is ignorant of it or not is kind of a reality check on this thing.

[00:19:25] But these 18 points are huge.

[00:19:28] And it starts out, does he know that?

[00:19:30] Is what Sheriff Mack says.

[00:19:31] And then he points out these 18 things.

[00:19:34] I want to go through them because they're so consequential.

[00:19:37] And the difference we're making is shocking.

[00:19:40] And again, they always want you to tell you we're nobody.

[00:19:42] We're so insignificant.

[00:19:43] And it just doesn't even matter.

[00:19:46] And then why would Wilmot say that?

[00:19:48] I mean, if Sheriff Mack really is not consequential and doesn't matter, why wouldn't he just say, you know what, I love Sheriff Mack, but hey, he hasn't been around for a while and let it go.

[00:19:57] Why would he use such a venomous attack?

[00:20:00] Oh, my gosh, Sheriff Mack's out of touch.

[00:20:02] No one listens to him.

[00:20:04] He's irrelevant.

[00:20:04] He's and we go on and on and on.

[00:20:06] He isn't involved in any of our decision making.

[00:20:09] Well, he's involved in the president's decision making, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:20:13] Steve Bannon just said so live on nationally syndicated radio.

[00:20:18] The guy we decided we didn't want to fill the DEA slot is not there.

[00:20:24] OK, so Wilmot is just absolutely out in the weeds, completely ignorant.

[00:20:29] And I don't mean to attack him, but you bring up this point.

[00:20:32] He doesn't even know you.

[00:20:33] Does he, Sheriff?

[00:20:34] Do you even know this guy?

[00:20:36] We've never met and we've never spoken.

[00:20:38] And I've heard of him and you've heard of him because he was one of the few six or seven handful of sheriffs that actually conducted a criminal investigation on election fraud.

[00:20:48] And we commend him for that, by the way.

[00:20:50] Yeah, we did.

[00:20:51] And I left him a message at his office that we totally supported what he was doing.

[00:20:56] He actually made two or three arrests.

[00:20:58] But what I want to still ask him is that in the media that talked about his investigation, it said that he had more than a dozen warrants still yet to be served.

[00:21:12] And yet nothing was ever talked about regarding the result of those warrants.

[00:21:19] Did they get served?

[00:21:20] Did they get quashed?

[00:21:22] What happened?

[00:21:23] We don't know.

[00:21:23] And you've got to wonder if somebody got to him, too.

[00:21:25] I'm not being rude by this, but I'm just kind of saying then for him to just when you leave a voice message and the only interaction you've had with this guy is, hey, good job.

[00:21:31] We support you.

[00:21:32] And then he writes back and says, oh, Mac's completely out in the weeds, not relevant at all.

[00:21:36] It's like, why would he say such a thing is what I'm not getting?

[00:21:40] Yeah.

[00:21:41] In fact, are you going to read the 18 points?

[00:21:43] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:21:44] So I wanted to highlight that.

[00:21:46] So does he know that?

[00:21:47] And Sheriff Mac's just kind of asking the question.

[00:21:49] And I think somehow we ought to set up a meeting between Sheriff Mac and this good sheriff, because I agree with Sheriff Mac that, look, we don't want to be angry or hate filled.

[00:21:57] I'm not trying to attack this guy.

[00:21:59] But I am trying to set the record straight, though.

[00:22:01] He's a decent guy.

[00:22:02] Yeah.

[00:22:02] Go ahead.

[00:22:03] Okay.

[00:22:03] No, I think he's a decent guy.

[00:22:05] I agree.

[00:22:06] And that's why I highlight it like this.

[00:22:08] I'm not trying to attack him.

[00:22:09] I'm not bringing this out to attack him.

[00:22:11] But I am bringing this out, as you point out, Sheriff Mac, to show how much the media brainwashes people.

[00:22:17] Mac's a nobody.

[00:22:18] But he's everybody.

[00:22:20] Sam's worthless.

[00:22:21] But yet, hey, he's this.

[00:22:23] How is it both?

[00:22:24] And the answer is they don't know what to do.

[00:22:26] When we don't want to sue them, we're nobody.

[00:22:30] But when we threaten to sue them, then they say, well, you guys are rock and roll celebrities, baby.

[00:22:35] You can't sue us.

[00:22:36] It's like, which is it?

[00:22:37] I don't really care.

[00:22:39] Because to me, the mission is what's important.

[00:22:41] The Constitutional Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association and this radio program have an overlapping mission, which is to promote God, family, and country and protect life, liberty, and property.

[00:22:50] Right?

[00:22:50] Anyway, here's the 18 points.

[00:22:53] One, Sheriff Mac says, I was the first sheriff in America to sue the federal government, take it all the way to SCOTUS, and win my case for states' rights.

[00:23:06] Now, I don't know how you say that to nobody, Sheriff.

[00:23:09] How many sheriffs have done that in the country?

[00:23:12] Seven.

[00:23:13] And they were with you.

[00:23:15] And six joined, and the others, six joined me in that lawsuit, yes.

[00:23:20] It's the only time it's ever happened in American history.

[00:23:22] So I thought that Wilmot said nobody really worked with you or anything like that.

[00:23:26] Seven, you and six others went to the Supreme Court.

[00:23:28] Sounds like six of them are working with you.

[00:23:30] Now, you could say compared to the 3,000 sheriffs, that's a tiny sliver.

[00:23:34] It's true.

[00:23:35] I agree.

[00:23:36] Six out of 3,000 is tiny.

[00:23:38] But what an impact that tiny sliver has, huh, people?

[00:23:41] It's changed the whole game on gun rights for the last 25 years, Sheriff.

[00:23:45] The other 3,080 didn't know what it was, didn't understand it, and didn't have the courage to join us or do it.

[00:23:52] They wanted to kind of just stay anonymous.

[00:23:54] And that's to your second point.

[00:23:56] Does he know that six other sheriffs joined Sheriff Mack in this lawsuit from across the United States?

[00:24:02] Tiny sliver, but oh, so impactful, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:24:07] Three.

[00:24:07] We'll get to three in a second.

[00:24:09] Sheriff Mack, right coming out of the gate, will refer to these.

[00:24:11] These are impactful.

[00:24:13] These are incredible.

[00:24:14] And again, we're not trying to toot our own horns.

[00:24:16] What we're trying to do is let you people know that as members of the CSPOA, this is the cause, the sacred cause, that you're helping us advance.

[00:24:25] That's the whole point.

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[00:30:29] A huge hallelujah for Merry Christmas and the season we're enjoying right now and the focus

[00:30:35] on the Savior Jesus Christ.

[00:30:38] That's why we promote God, family, and country on this radio program.

[00:30:41] And a big old huge hallelujah to the Supreme Court win where Sheriff Mack and six other sheriffs

[00:30:48] went to the Supreme Court and won.

[00:30:51] Yes, indeed, this decision written by Justice Antonin Scalia was the most powerful 10th Amendment

[00:30:59] decision ever written in U.S. history.

[00:31:02] Does the good sheriff, attacking Sheriff Mack, realize that?

[00:31:06] Has he ever read the case is the next question Richard Mack asks the gentleman.

[00:31:10] Have you ever read the case?

[00:31:12] You got to read it.

[00:31:13] You got to be familiar with it.

[00:31:14] You got to know.

[00:31:14] By the way, if y'all want a copy of the summary of the case, cspoa.org, you can get a copy.

[00:31:21] It's great, great reading.

[00:31:22] Help you understand the greatest 10th Amendment decision ever rendered.

[00:31:26] Five, does he know that this battle was to protect the office of sheriff from federal overreach?

[00:31:32] And that's really something that I don't think most sheriffs really understand about Richard

[00:31:36] Mack's win.

[00:31:37] All they hear is, oh, Richard Mack had a win at the Supreme Court that was so narrow it

[00:31:42] doesn't hardly matter from the mainstream press lies, right?

[00:31:45] Six, does he know that the case has been named the, quote, anti-commandeering case, and it

[00:31:52] was to prevent the feds from commandeering the sheriffs nationwide?

[00:31:56] Sheriff, I put those two together because they're directly related, but your comments on those.

[00:32:02] Yeah, I mean, the reason we filed the lawsuit is because the federal government doesn't have

[00:32:07] any authority to tell us what to do in the first place.

[00:32:10] And by the way, we have Sheriff Scott Jenkins in Virginia that we want everyone to be praying

[00:32:18] for right now and all day.

[00:32:21] He's actually testifying his own behalf in a corruption charges.

[00:32:26] This is really going to floor you.

[00:32:27] I know you know this, but everybody else I'm telling this to on the show today.

[00:32:33] Um, he's actually been charged with public corruption from the worst public corruption organization

[00:32:38] on the planet, the FBI.

[00:32:41] And I tried talking to his lawyer about challenging their authority and he wouldn't do it.

[00:32:46] Uh, and I, uh, maybe he plans to keep his bar license in good shape, Sheriff.

[00:32:51] That's right.

[00:32:51] I don't know.

[00:32:52] I really don't understand him at all.

[00:32:54] But, um, uh, Sheriff Jenkins texted me this morning, said he's going to be on the stand

[00:33:00] and that he appreciated so much the help that I've been giving him.

[00:33:03] Um, of course, why would he be a sheriff?

[00:33:07] Why would he listen to me?

[00:33:08] But anyway, really appreciate it.

[00:33:10] Because he knows the truth that he's familiar with your case and he realizes that the guidance

[00:33:13] is valuable.

[00:33:15] Sheriffs across the country that have listened to Sheriff Richard Mack have beat back the feds

[00:33:18] on multiple, multiple occasions.

[00:33:20] And many of them in our conferences stand up and tell all about it, by the way, uh, especially

[00:33:25] the sheriff, for example, that shut down, uh, the government in New Mexico that was trying

[00:33:30] to stop them from having church.

[00:33:31] That sheriff, um, is really grateful to Sheriff Mack and has spoke at our conferences.

[00:33:36] I mean, I can keep going on and on, but I digress.

[00:33:39] Number seven, does he know that the Brady bill, which we sued the federal government to

[00:33:45] stop, threatened to arrest all sheriffs that failed to comply?

[00:33:49] That's critical, Sheriff Mack, because it can happen again.

[00:33:54] If, if, I'll tell you what, Sam, if we had lost that, uh, there'd really be no need

[00:34:01] to go through the motions of electing a sheriff because whoever it is just has to answer to

[00:34:07] the federal government, do whatever they're told by Congress or, or the BATF.

[00:34:11] It looked like the BATF was going to be over us because they're the ones that came to our

[00:34:16] meeting and handed us our marching orders as to how we were going to enforce the Brady

[00:34:20] bill.

[00:34:21] Oh boy.

[00:34:23] There you have it.

[00:34:24] It's really important to understand that ladies and gentlemen, eight.

[00:34:28] Does he know that the ex director of the national sheriff's association, the NSA is not a current

[00:34:35] sheriff and has not been for a long time.

[00:34:38] This is in response to them saying Sheriff Mack hasn't been a sheriff for a long time.

[00:34:41] It's true, but he's been working with sheriffs across the country as a consultant.

[00:34:44] Uh, he's been helping sheriffs understand the proper role of government.

[00:34:48] If you move from being a sheriff to a trainer of sheriffs, I don't know that that takes you

[00:34:53] out of the game.

[00:34:54] Like he's suggesting.

[00:34:55] It reminds me of a guy that, that plays basketball and then he gets a little too old to play basketball.

[00:35:00] And so he becomes a commentator on the radio or he becomes a coach or he becomes, that doesn't

[00:35:05] mean they're out of the game.

[00:35:06] Sheriff.

[00:35:06] It just means, well, I'll give you an example.

[00:35:08] Brad Rogers was a sheriff, but then at term limits now he's a County commissioner.

[00:35:12] Is he less of a sheriff now?

[00:35:13] See, I don't think so.

[00:35:14] He's still got that incredible experience.

[00:35:16] So it's a slight that has no merit is the point.

[00:35:20] Well, why did they make all the movies about Wyatt Earp?

[00:35:22] He's not a U S Marshall anymore.

[00:35:25] Not a good point.

[00:35:26] Yeah, but no, it's kind of silly.

[00:35:30] This is number nine.

[00:35:32] Does he know that over 80% of all sheriffs races in this country, uh, involve citizens

[00:35:41] and candidates bringing up the issue of quote constitutional sheriffs or the constitutional

[00:35:50] sheriffs of peace officers association.

[00:35:52] This is huge because it just articulates how relevant the CSPA really is.

[00:35:57] Sheriff Mack.

[00:35:59] Yeah, Sam.

[00:36:00] In fact, the, the, the greatest, uh, testimony of that principle of that truth came from a

[00:36:09] reporter from the Detroit news by the name of Craig.

[00:36:13] I can't remember his last name, but anyway, Detroit news called me and said, sure.

[00:36:19] Mack.

[00:36:19] I've got to tell you, I've been all over the state of Michigan and how did you do this?

[00:36:25] And I said, do what?

[00:36:26] He goes, you have influenced every single sheriff race in this state.

[00:36:32] I said, well, how do you know?

[00:36:35] And he goes, because I've been to him and every single one of them made mention of you,

[00:36:42] the CSPA and the constitutional sheriff movement in this country, every single one.

[00:36:48] He said, bar none.

[00:36:50] And I said, well, wow.

[00:36:52] I appreciate you telling me that.

[00:36:53] Thanks.

[00:36:54] He wasn't after a story.

[00:36:56] He literally called me just to let me know that how impressed he was.

[00:37:00] Because he was so astonished is why.

[00:37:02] And by the way, almost no mention of the national sheriffs association,

[00:37:06] the NSA ever even comes up.

[00:37:08] Sheriff Mack.

[00:37:09] No, no, no.

[00:37:10] No.

[00:37:11] And so then the NSA has probably 30, 40, 50,000 members.

[00:37:18] Most of them are former sheriffs, by the way.

[00:37:21] And I'm even one of them, even though the NSA is completely worthless.

[00:37:25] They're in bed with all the federal agencies and the bureaucracies and they get a lot of money from them.

[00:37:31] It's like the unions.

[00:37:33] The leadership has nothing to do with the rank and file in reality.

[00:37:36] Yeah, exactly.

[00:37:37] Exactly.

[00:37:38] So and and the board of directors are mostly current sheriffs.

[00:37:42] And the president is kind of a in name only thing.

[00:37:48] But but he still has to get to a lot of meetings and do some work.

[00:37:51] The president is a full time sheriff from Idaho of the National Sheriffs Association.

[00:37:57] What the only thing I question there is, how do you have time to do that and be the elected sheriff of your county?

[00:38:06] So I don't understand that.

[00:38:08] That's the problem.

[00:38:09] If you stand up for America, then they say you don't have time to do both.

[00:38:12] But in this case, you somehow do.

[00:38:14] Number 10.

[00:38:15] Does he know that a huge majority of U.S. sheriffs support the Second Amendment, but the NSA does not?

[00:38:23] That's really critical to know, too.

[00:38:25] In fact, these sheriffs that are all members of this thing ought to take note and decide the mutiny sheriff.

[00:38:31] Yeah, yeah, I don't.

[00:38:33] The only reason why most sheriffs stay with the NSA is the sheriffs like to rub elbows with each other and make contacts and do some networking.

[00:38:41] But as far as providing anything of substance of any consequence, really, the meetings don't.

[00:38:48] The national conventions don't.

[00:38:49] They're just where sheriffs get together and and talk with each other.

[00:38:54] They do provide the updated technology in law enforcement and the technology in running jails and technology in in some training issues.

[00:39:05] But they provide nothing whatsoever as far as supporting the Constitution, what the oath of office means, why we take an oath.

[00:39:14] What's the role of the sheriff in preserving liberty in America and preserving our constitutional republic?

[00:39:20] Most of them don't even know that we have a constitutional republic.

[00:39:23] So it's there's nothing of any substance, really, except for technical training issues.

[00:39:29] Due process is critical.

[00:39:31] They don't focus on that much either.

[00:39:33] Now, you say 11.

[00:39:34] Does he know?

[00:39:35] But I think it should be changed to does he remember that he was one of a handful of sheriffs who investigated election fraud?

[00:39:42] And the CSPOA backed him.

[00:39:46] A hundred percent, even though the NSA did nothing in that regard.

[00:39:49] Does he remember that?

[00:39:50] Just wondering.

[00:39:52] Does he know that he was the only sheriff?

[00:39:56] In Arizona that conducted that kind of an investigation.

[00:39:59] He was the only one and we commend him for it.

[00:40:02] But see, and my point is this opposite.

[00:40:04] With asking that, do the other sheriffs get mad at him for leaving them behind or making them look bad that they didn't do it?

[00:40:15] He was the only one.

[00:40:17] And that happened to me when I was the only one suing in Arizona against the Brady Bill.

[00:40:22] Some of the other sheriffs took issue because their constituents kept asking him, why aren't you doing that?

[00:40:28] Well, I know what happened in his case, too.

[00:40:32] Go ahead and skip the break.

[00:40:33] And so the question becomes, does he realize that, you know what, if they attack him, just saying, oh, man, he's a conspiracy nut because he investigated election fraud.

[00:40:42] Well, those are the same dishonest rhetoric lines being used against us, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:40:49] Thirteen, does he know that Sheriff Mack endorsed the new sheriff-elect of Maricopa County, Arizona, Jerry Sheridan, and that he worked on the campaign for the last year?

[00:41:02] That's critical, too.

[00:41:03] That's critical, too.

[00:41:03] It's the third largest sheriff of the nation.

[00:41:06] Not only is listening to Sheriff Mack, but said, I want your support and endorsement.

[00:41:10] Even though Sheriff Mack Warnerman said it could get politically divisive.

[00:41:13] Are you sure?

[00:41:14] He doubled down and said, absolutely.

[00:41:16] So when Wilmot says no one's listening, okay, good luck with that conversation, Sheriff.

[00:41:23] How about 14?

[00:41:24] Does he know that Sheriff Mark Lamb, who's partnering with the CSPOA and with Sheriff Richard Mack, just got back from Los Angeles where the Claremont Institute just named who?

[00:41:38] Sheriff of the Year?

[00:41:39] A Texas sheriff.

[00:41:41] Sheriff.

[00:41:41] Who is it?

[00:41:45] Bill.

[00:41:48] Gosh.

[00:41:49] Tarrant County, Texas.

[00:41:52] It's okay.

[00:41:53] There's 3,000 of them, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:41:55] His name is Billy Slips Armand, but he's a Texas sheriff.

[00:41:57] By the way, Texas sheriffs are listening to us all across the state.

[00:42:01] By the way, the director of Claremont has never been a sheriff either, just so you know, just saying.

[00:42:07] But they're listening, that's for sure.

[00:42:09] 15, does he know that the CSPOA is working with sheriffs and counties all over Florida to become constitutional counties?

[00:42:20] And then we had a huge seminar there, and sheriffs stood at the pulpit and told the tale of truth?

[00:42:25] Does he know that?

[00:42:26] Maybe he ought to watch the conference in his spare time.

[00:42:29] How about 16?

[00:42:30] Finally, does he know that Sheriff Mack has done over 350 interviews in just the last three months alone?

[00:42:39] All over the country.

[00:42:41] All over the world, I should say.

[00:42:43] From London to Australia.

[00:42:45] Just about every state in the USA as well.

[00:42:47] And if you look at shows like Steve Bannon, it's in every state.

[00:42:50] So you've really been in every state, Sheriff.

[00:42:52] Yeah.

[00:42:58] Well, keep going.

[00:42:59] Well, so you say finally, because that was the last kind of point.

[00:43:02] And then you make some points that bring in other people, which I really, really love.

[00:43:06] You say this.

[00:43:08] My agenda is not mine.

[00:43:11] It is the agenda of our founders.

[00:43:15] It is the oath of office that they require each of us to take.

[00:43:20] It's our allegiance to America, to liberty, and to the people that pay our salaries.

[00:43:27] That, in my opinion, is the most quintessential point that I think Sheriff Wilmot must have forgot, Sheriff Mack.

[00:43:34] He doesn't remember that, I guess.

[00:43:37] No.

[00:43:38] The question is, did he ever know it to begin with?

[00:43:40] Because most sheriffs don't get that.

[00:43:42] But most sheriffs summarily ignore the oath that they swear to the ceremony that I'm going to tomorrow.

[00:43:51] Jerry Sheridan will not forget his oath.

[00:43:54] And that's why I'm so involved with his campaign.

[00:43:58] And I'm not going to let him forget it.

[00:44:01] You know, sometimes you can get so involved in so many different things going on in your sheriff's office.

[00:44:07] And as you alluded to, it's a huge sheriff's office.

[00:44:10] And he has thousands of employees.

[00:44:12] In fact, he's short about 1,200 employees right now.

[00:44:16] So he's got to look at that and how they can get that back.

[00:44:20] And then who's going to help him and have his back within the organization?

[00:44:25] Yeah, he's got a lot of work to do.

[00:44:27] And you can forget sometimes, going through all the logistics of running an office, what you're really there for.

[00:44:36] Well, Sheriff Wilmot, remember the people elected you, my friend, and they did so based on this oath that you swore to.

[00:44:43] And that's really important as Sheriff Jerry Sheridan understands his oath tomorrow.

[00:44:48] As far as I understand, he'll be sworn in, right?

[00:44:50] Is it tomorrow?

[00:44:51] That is correct.

[00:44:52] It's the 18th.

[00:44:53] That is fantastic.

[00:44:54] Sheriff Mack will be there.

[00:44:55] I wonder if Wilmot will be there because he could, you know, shake hands with Mack and they could meet and Wilmot could come on the program next Tuesday and we can have a discussion and all that kind of stuff.

[00:45:03] It would be phenomenal.

[00:45:04] That brings up another point, Sam.

[00:45:07] Yeah.

[00:45:08] You're going to need to do this puffy.

[00:45:12] Oh, I'm all over it.

[00:45:14] You got it.

[00:45:15] I'm ready to go.

[00:45:16] Let's get her done.

[00:45:17] All right.

[00:45:17] Good.

[00:45:17] So 18 is interesting.

[00:45:20] Does he know that the CSPOA was the only national organization to oppose Chad Chronister's nomination?

[00:45:27] And then we talked about, you know, Sheriff Mack was on the war room with Steve Bannon talking about that where Trump through Steve Bannon thanked Richard Mack and the CSPOA removing Chad Chronister from the list.

[00:45:41] And then you talk about since leaving the sheriff's office 27 years ago, you've been to all 50 states training sheriffs.

[00:45:52] You've written what, eight books?

[00:45:57] Yeah.

[00:45:57] And conducted over 100 plus seminars and conventions with all kinds of public officials.

[00:46:06] And then he politely says, may I invite you, Sheriff Wilmot?

[00:46:09] Hey, come and see our class for yourself.

[00:46:13] Don't just, you know, read the propaganda.

[00:46:15] Why don't you come and learn?

[00:46:16] And so what I like about Sheriff's Mack's response is it isn't full of anger.

[00:46:20] It isn't full of, oh, I don't know what you want to call it.

[00:46:23] Just we're going to shoot across the bow at the other guy.

[00:46:27] And it's really a more of are you aware of all these things, Sheriff?

[00:46:31] Please come and join us.

[00:46:33] Please learn about us.

[00:46:34] Don't just accept what you hear out there about us.

[00:46:36] Please come and learn for yourself.

[00:46:37] And if you still feel that way, by all means, you have the right to your views.

[00:46:41] But please give us a chance.

[00:46:42] Please learn who we are.

[00:46:43] Please look at me in the eye and shake my hand and learn from the inside and understand.

[00:46:47] Because when Sheriff Scott Williams of Texas did that very thing, he had the same kind of an attitude as Wilmot.

[00:46:54] But then when he came, he changed his heart and his tune and said, you know what?

[00:46:58] There's something here that matters.

[00:47:00] And that's what sheriffs are discovering all across the country.

[00:47:02] And they've been discovering it for 15 years.

[00:47:05] The CSPOA has been alive.

[00:47:06] And really for the last 24 years, Sheriff Mack has been on the campaign trail for God, family, and country.

[00:47:12] Sheriff Mack, wrap up your thoughts on this.

[00:47:14] It's really an invitation for the good sheriff.

[00:47:17] Not a challenge.

[00:47:18] Not a...

[00:47:18] But more of a...

[00:47:19] Are you aware of all these things and would love to get to know each other?

[00:47:25] Yeah, I would like that.

[00:47:27] And the plea to all sheriffs in this country, Sam, is the same.

[00:47:33] Instead of just sitting back and reading things off the Internet and complaining about me and deciding who I am,

[00:47:42] the first comment I made was, he doesn't know me and I don't know him.

[00:47:47] And we have never spoken.

[00:47:50] Which, you know, there's 3,086 sheriffs in America, which is going to happen.

[00:47:55] I still speak frequently, anytime I want, with some sheriffs here in Arizona.

[00:48:00] And obviously, I am very close with one of the biggest sheriffs in the country,

[00:48:06] one of the biggest in the United States of America, Maricopa County.

[00:48:12] And I'm very close with him and have been invited to his swearing-in ceremony tomorrow.

[00:48:18] This is what I would say, though.

[00:48:19] So, if you're willing to stick your neck out and your reputation out to criticize me,

[00:48:30] then come and see my training.

[00:48:33] This is the same training we'll tell anybody.

[00:48:35] Whether you criticize me or not, whether you know of me or not,

[00:48:38] we simply ask the message be the same for everyone.

[00:48:43] Come and see for yourself.

[00:48:45] And then, if you don't like what you see,

[00:48:48] then go ahead and criticize me all you want.

[00:48:51] But at least know what we're about first

[00:48:53] and know what our training presents to America and to the sheriffs of this country.

[00:48:59] Well, and at least acknowledge, too, in my mind that, you know what,

[00:49:02] your agenda is the agenda of the Founding Fathers.

[00:49:05] Your agenda is the oath that they all take.

[00:49:07] Like, this is not, and I'm not trying to steal your thunder,

[00:49:11] but I'm trying to make a point.

[00:49:11] This is not Richard Mack's agenda you're against.

[00:49:15] You're against your oath of office.

[00:49:16] You're against due process.

[00:49:17] You're against the Founding Fathers.

[00:49:19] Because everything that we teach and focus on comes from the Constitution.

[00:49:22] The oath, the proper rule of government, separation of powers,

[00:49:26] the Supreme Court case decision.

[00:49:28] I mean, I can keep going, Sheriff, but, I mean, you get the point.

[00:49:30] It isn't that you're really attacking Richard Mack, if you understand the message.

[00:49:36] Yeah, it is.

[00:49:37] And that's why it is quite narrow-minded.

[00:49:41] Because first and foremost, the only reason any sheriff in this country has ever heard of me

[00:49:46] is because I sued the federal government.

[00:49:49] I sued the Clinton administration, lived to tell about it,

[00:49:53] and won at the United States Supreme Court.

[00:49:57] My name is in the history books about that.

[00:49:59] But as far as sheriffs go, no one has ever done that before or since.

[00:50:05] And so I was doing what I felt was absolutely what I was supposed to be doing.

[00:50:14] And if you take God out of it, I was doing what I felt was right.

[00:50:20] But there was no question that there was some divine intervention that got me to that point.

[00:50:26] No question.

[00:50:28] And my wife knows it, and I know it.

[00:50:30] And it was very personal between she and me.

[00:50:33] And there was just no question that she was inspired.

[00:50:39] And she touched my heart when she said, yes, now we know why you were supposed to be sheriff.

[00:50:46] You're doing what you're supposed to be doing.

[00:50:48] And so it was all very spiritual, very touching, and miraculous.

[00:50:56] This whole thing was just one vivid miracle after another that even brought me to marry her

[00:51:04] and that brought me to running for sheriff was a total miracle.

[00:51:11] And then what brought me to going to the Supreme Court and actually winning.

[00:51:16] Sam, there were so many miracles along the way, some very small,

[00:51:21] and then a giant group of small ones, and then some huge, I mean huge ones,

[00:51:29] being there and standing in the Supreme Court,

[00:51:32] sitting right across from James Brady, for whom the Brady Bill was named,

[00:51:38] and the incident with Ronald Reagan being shot,

[00:51:42] and his press secretary, James Brady, being shot in the head

[00:51:45] and confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life,

[00:51:48] and then dying a little bit too early in his life.

[00:51:52] And I'm grateful that I knew him.

[00:51:54] And all these miracles put together, Sam, just spelled one thing.

[00:51:58] And it was the reason why I was sheriff, and it was the reason why I was born.

[00:52:05] And there's no question.

[00:52:07] This is what I was supposed to be doing.

[00:52:09] Why did I go to Provo Police Department?

[00:52:11] So I could be trained how to be sheriff.

[00:52:14] So I could be trained in the law enforcement aspect of being a sheriff.

[00:52:18] I didn't know that at the time.

[00:52:20] But looking back, I told my wife, I said,

[00:52:23] Do you know why we worked at Provo PD for 11 and a half years?

[00:52:27] She goes, No.

[00:52:28] And I said, So I would be ready to be sheriff.

[00:52:31] She goes, Oh, yeah, huh?

[00:52:33] And I don't mean this to be sacrilegious,

[00:52:35] but we started out with the song, Mary, Did You Know?

[00:52:37] And now I got a question.

[00:52:39] We're going to change your statements a little bit,

[00:52:41] and we're going to say, Sheriff, did you know?

[00:52:44] Yeah.

[00:52:45] I think that applies, Sam.

[00:52:47] I think it's a real good metaphor.

[00:52:51] And I didn't know at the time all of it.

[00:52:54] But looking back now, Sam,

[00:52:56] and it's the reason why I really want to do a movie and a documentary.

[00:53:02] Talking to Glenn earlier made me just want to ask him,

[00:53:05] Okay, how do I do this?

[00:53:08] And you and I already know enough people that we could put this together.

[00:53:11] But do we have the money to do it?

[00:53:13] That is the question.

[00:53:15] Well, we certainly need the support from across the country,

[00:53:18] cspoa.org, to get that done.

[00:53:19] But I'm really led to say, Sheriff, did you know?

[00:53:21] And I'm really feeling inclined to take your response

[00:53:25] that was meant to kind of be a private response to a reporter

[00:53:28] to get to a sheriff and kind of turn it into a public article

[00:53:31] that would go on the website that would basically be like,

[00:53:33] Sheriff, did you know?

[00:53:35] You know what?

[00:53:36] We need all sheriffs in the country to know about these things.

[00:53:39] They can agree, disagree, but it's an invitation to learn.

[00:53:42] It's a did you know about all these facts?

[00:53:44] And then are you willing to learn more?

[00:53:47] And I really think that that's something this season

[00:53:50] we need to really double down and focus on

[00:53:52] because that's our invitation.

[00:53:54] As Donald Trump becomes the next president of the United States,

[00:53:58] as we have Kash Patel at the helm of the FBI

[00:54:00] and his reform is on the agenda,

[00:54:02] Sheriff, did you know?

[00:54:05] Did you know how this movement got us started?

[00:54:07] Do you know what the movement's about?

[00:54:08] Do you know what we're trying to accomplish?

[00:54:09] Are you willing to be part of it?

[00:54:12] A lot of questions in the wake of that.

[00:54:13] I'll tell you that right now.

[00:54:15] Sheriff Mack, thank you so much.

[00:54:17] You're welcome, Ben.

[00:54:18] Thanks so much.

[00:54:18] See you soon.

[00:54:19] There you go.

[00:54:20] CSPOA.org.

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[00:54:23] That was Sheriff Richard Mack responding to a reporter

[00:54:26] and we thought it was worth an hour of great radio,

[00:54:29] to say the least.

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