Radio Show Hour 2 – 11/11/2024

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West.

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[00:00:23] Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.

[00:00:25] This is the broadcast for November the 11th in the year of our Lord, 2024, Hour 2 of 2,

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[00:00:34] using the supreme law of the land, the constitution for our guide,

[00:00:37] rejecting revolution unless it's a Jesus revolution,

[00:00:40] standing on principle always.

[00:00:42] It's always about principle above politics, ladies and gentlemen,

[00:00:45] and it's principle above profit as well, I might add.

[00:00:48] Lowell Nelson with me, campaignforliberty.org.

[00:00:50] Welcome to the broadcast. He always does a phenomenal job.

[00:00:53] I just want to say there's a couple of quick stories before we get to topics at hand.

[00:00:59] Jamal Simmons is saying that, hey, all Joe Biden needs to do is resign the presidency.

[00:01:04] In the next 30 days, then Kamala becomes president for, you know,

[00:01:07] hey, when you're a little kid, they're like, hey, do you want to be the principal of your school for a day?

[00:01:13] You can go ahead and whatever.

[00:01:15] It's like you want to be president for 30 days?

[00:01:17] And they're saying that Joe can step down.

[00:01:19] Kamala will be the first woman president.

[00:01:21] And then Donald will lose the opportunity to be 47.

[00:01:25] He'll have to be 48 because, see, Kamala, what do you think?

[00:01:28] It sounds like a joke, but they're serious about this.

[00:01:31] Possibly, Lowell.

[00:01:32] Yeah.

[00:01:34] Boy.

[00:01:35] Hubris, I guess.

[00:01:36] I don't know.

[00:01:38] But I don't know.

[00:01:40] If Joe truly is not able to perform the function of the office, I mean, at least we need somebody in there with, you know,

[00:01:47] who purportedly has capabilities of doing that.

[00:01:51] But I don't know.

[00:01:53] I guess it's hubris more than anything.

[00:01:55] They just want to be able to say, yeah.

[00:01:55] Here's the question.

[00:01:56] I think Joe will really do it, though.

[00:01:57] It's really not that far of a stretch.

[00:01:58] If Joe just said, listen, I've got to step down and let Kamala take over and, you know.

[00:02:03] Yeah.

[00:02:04] That's not much of a stretch.

[00:02:05] I mean, I see it.

[00:02:06] It could easily happen, sure.

[00:02:08] I mean, that's the way for them to put a feather in their cap saying, yeah, we had the first female president from the Democratic Party.

[00:02:15] You know, kudos to us.

[00:02:18] Anyway, I just find it very fascinating.

[00:02:20] I also want to bring this up to you.

[00:02:22] They're looking for the Senate leader, Senate majority leader, and the Gateway Pundit endorses Rick Scott.

[00:02:28] They're going to decide this thing on Wednesday.

[00:02:31] It looks like the clowns are trying to put somebody in there who would be on opposition to Trump, which I don't want to see.

[00:02:39] But if they're really going to focus on cutting taxes and reducing the size and scope and whatever government and get government out of our lives like they're talking about, they've got to put somebody who understands that we need to reduce spending.

[00:02:49] There's nobody better than a Rand Paul.

[00:02:51] So Sam Bushman endorses Rand Paul for Senate majority leader.

[00:02:54] But this is interesting.

[00:02:55] They announced this on Monday, really, or over the weekend.

[00:03:00] But, I mean, there's only a couple of days, and they're going to install the leader on Wednesday.

[00:03:03] There's no debate or discussion.

[00:03:04] So I bring this up to Dr. Scott Bradley last hour, and I said, hey, I think we ought to have Rand Paul.

[00:03:09] And Bradley brought up a wise point.

[00:03:10] He's not even on the list.

[00:03:13] So it's not that Dr. Bradley doesn't agree with me.

[00:03:16] He's just saying, we don't even have that chance in this election, not an election.

[00:03:20] Now they're selecting this leader without even debate or discussion.

[00:03:23] And, I mean, I appreciate Rick Scott, but he hasn't been the let's reduce spending guy, has he?

[00:03:28] Well, I don't think so.

[00:03:30] I mean, and, you know, who determines who's on the list?

[00:03:34] See, I think that in the, well, in the State House legislature, I think they, you know, if you want to run, you can run.

[00:03:43] So I think if Rand wanted to run, he could put his name on the list.

[00:03:47] But I also think that, you know, anybody who runs needs to do some calculus beforehand to determine, you know, whether they, you know, what their chances are of success, you know, in taking that seat.

[00:04:00] And, you know, I think Rand is popular among Patriots.

[00:04:06] And I think that if we, if he was willing to do that, we could have a groundswell of support for him.

[00:04:15] You know, you know, Mike Lee would support him and many and several others.

[00:04:20] But, you know, would a majority of the chamber support him?

[00:04:23] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:04:24] Not without a lot of support, you know, from the grassroots pushing on the senators.

[00:04:29] Well, yes, but is Rick Scott going to get a lot more support than a Rand Paul or Mike Lee would get?

[00:04:32] I don't know.

[00:04:33] I don't think so.

[00:04:33] So it's a battle.

[00:04:35] And what they're really trying to do is undermine this and get a senator, a Senate leader that's kind of in opposition to Trump.

[00:04:41] Yeah.

[00:04:41] That's what they're really kind of gunning for, right?

[00:04:44] Yeah, I think so.

[00:04:45] If they can, again, they're working to blunt Trump's effectiveness on every street corner there in Washington, D.C., the swamp, right?

[00:04:56] I mean, they want to blunt his effectiveness in the Senate and they'll blunt his effectiveness in the House by choosing a House speaker that's anti-Trumpistic.

[00:05:06] And, you know, that's just how the swamp works, you know, unfortunately.

[00:05:11] Yeah, amen to that.

[00:05:11] And it looks like Mitch McConnell on his way out is trying to basically play the spoiler here to try to get, you know, it's almost a conspiracy to make sure that we don't get a friendly person to Donald Trump in that position.

[00:05:22] It's strange to say the least.

[00:05:25] Anyway, I digress, but I wanted to kind of vet that with you because I think Rand Paul should be the guy.

[00:05:30] Yeah, I agree.

[00:05:31] And you bring up a really good point.

[00:05:33] And this is a part of politics that is not widely understood.

[00:05:37] I mean, even among people who are in politics, who are active in politics, I didn't know about this until, oh, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago.

[00:05:46] Actually, it was probably 2005 the first that I realized that our state legislators are basically patrons of whoever they choose as speaker of the House, you know, in our state legislature.

[00:06:02] We've got 75 state legislators in the Utah House.

[00:06:07] And if they want to get anything done, basically, they have to bow and scrape to the speaker of the House because the speaker of the House determines and chooses who's going to chair the various committees.

[00:06:22] And most importantly, the rules committee.

[00:06:23] Because the rules committee in the statehouse determines what bills get out to, you know, to the various committees for consideration.

[00:06:31] The rules committee can bottle something up in rules and never let it out.

[00:06:37] And that's why I think the leaders are so critical in this regard because people don't understand that.

[00:06:43] They think all senators are equal.

[00:06:44] But I'm telling you right now, whoever heads up this, quote, majority leadership really, in my opinion, controls the whole docket of the Senate, if you will.

[00:06:57] So there you have it.

[00:06:58] I'm praying for Rand Paul.

[00:06:59] I know he's not even on the list is the sad part about it.

[00:07:02] But Dr. Rand Paul.

[00:07:04] Yes, sir.

[00:07:04] One other point before getting to the Rand Paul column.

[00:07:09] But is this.

[00:07:10] I just cited what we do in the Utah House.

[00:07:15] But it's also the case in the U.S. House.

[00:07:18] We're talking about, you know, half of Congress now.

[00:07:22] The U.S. House, since 1859, they have gone to this system of patronage.

[00:07:29] But before 1859, the whole House would vote on the chairmen, the chairs of the various committees in the U.S. House.

[00:07:39] But the powers that be, the dark powers, even as early as 1859, this is slightly before the war for Southern Independence occurred, that the dark powers decided, you know what?

[00:07:56] We can't control what goes on here if we let the whole House decide who chairs these various committees.

[00:08:02] We need tighter control.

[00:08:04] And so it's been a few years now, Sam, but I've actually read the documents.

[00:08:11] I've read the rule change, the rules from 1859, the U.S. House, as they got ready for their session.

[00:08:19] And it was at that time they decided that the speaker would appoint members of, you know, or chairs of the various committees.

[00:08:27] And what has turned out right down to the present day, Sam, is that the control of the U.S. House is in the hands of just a few very select individuals, the speaker, the majority leader, and, you know, maybe several others behind the scenes.

[00:08:45] They control the agenda for the U.S. House.

[00:08:49] And so if you want anything done.

[00:08:51] Yeah, a few committee chairmen and women because they control what goes to their committees first.

[00:08:55] And then oftentimes they vet it in committee, and if they shut it down, it can't see it a lot of day, not only in their committees, but in the open Senate or open House in this regard either.

[00:09:03] And so it's very, very serious, and people need to understand this.

[00:09:06] And what shocks me about this is that they're literally moving so quickly that there hasn't even been a discussion about this.

[00:09:13] No, they don't want a discussion.

[00:09:14] Never mind.

[00:09:15] And a few people that want Rick Scott, like the Gateway Pundit, bringing this to the attention of the American people.

[00:09:20] But they want this whole thing decided and announced as if you don't have a choice, making it a selection more than, you know, kind of a weigh-in by the American people.

[00:09:29] You know, what would we like to see?

[00:09:30] And there's no discussion on this that I can see outside of the Gateway Pundit right now and Liberty Roundtable Live.

[00:09:37] Nobody's talking about this.

[00:09:38] But if we want to cut spending in America, I'm telling you, Rand Paul's the only guy that could really be the leader of the Senate successfully to accomplish that goal.

[00:09:48] And that's one of the overarching goals of everything else for this administration.

[00:09:52] If we don't get that done, we're going to lose big.

[00:09:54] Yeah.

[00:09:55] And just to remind our listeners of what Rand Paul has proposed in the past, he's proposed actual cuts to the budget, not cuts to the increases in the budget, but actual cuts.

[00:10:06] So if you spent $100 last year, Rand Paul was suggesting the penny plan, let's just cut 5 cents off of that or 5%, right?

[00:10:16] So if you spent $100 last year, let's spend $95 this year.

[00:10:20] That's what Rand proposed several years ago, it's been five or six years ago now.

[00:10:25] And now if we want to tackle the increasing national debt, we have to cut 6%.

[00:10:30] So we're saying 6 cents out of every dollar, let's spend 6 fewer cents this upcoming year than we spent in the current year.

[00:10:39] That's Rand Paul's plan.

[00:10:40] That's a cut in spending.

[00:10:41] That's an actual cut.

[00:10:43] Not a cut in the increase, but an actual cut compared with what we spent last year.

[00:10:48] So that is a viable plan, absolutely viable.

[00:10:52] And yet, you know, our senators, our representatives in Congress are so unwilling to do that that, you know, that plan just never passed.

[00:11:03] But if he were the majority, if he were the Senate president, the majority leader in the Senate, like you say, Sam, good things would happen.

[00:11:12] We'd actually see a Rand Paul tax cut.

[00:11:14] And like you said, that is the key to taming our budget crisis because if we don't cut spending, we'll never be able to cut taxes and get out of the hole.

[00:11:27] Anyway, that's why I endorse Ron Paul for this because, folks, we've got to, you know, really take this kind of stuff seriously.

[00:11:35] And right now I just see that if you're not very careful, you're going to have a Mitch McConnell virtually appoint somebody on his way out for this position.

[00:11:42] But Ron Paul writing very cogent columns.

[00:11:46] I mean, it seems like the older he gets, the more spot on he gets, if that's even possible.

[00:11:50] Lol.

[00:11:52] That's right.

[00:11:54] He's one of the older guys, even older than Donald and everybody else.

[00:11:57] And, man, he's just nailing it, sir.

[00:12:00] Yeah.

[00:12:00] Boy, the accumulated wisdom in his mind and heart are just phenomenal.

[00:12:06] In his column last week, which is posted at campaignforliberty.org, he makes a number of really, really great points.

[00:12:15] I want to highlight just a few of them here on this show.

[00:12:17] First, with his observation that the mainstream media has not mentioned anything of real significance during the presidential campaign.

[00:12:26] I guess nobody's surprised about that.

[00:12:28] In fact, neither presidential candidate.

[00:12:31] Let me just tell you, though.

[00:12:31] Liberty Roundtable has, and this is an example right here, this discussion about Rand Paul and this discussion about who's going to lead the Senate.

[00:12:38] This is in the daily, the Gateway Pundit gets credit.

[00:12:42] Liberty Roundtable gets credit.

[00:12:43] We're talking about the real issues, and we always have people.

[00:12:45] So just know who is and who isn't.

[00:12:48] In the campaigns, none of them did, really.

[00:12:51] That's right.

[00:12:52] And neither presidential candidate did either.

[00:12:54] And it turns out the leftist media was what I call the lame stream in media.

[00:13:01] They were in the tank with the Democratic candidate.

[00:13:04] Quote, according to the conservative Media Research Center, mainstream media coverage of the Trump campaign was 85% negative,

[00:13:14] while its coverage of the Harris campaign was 78% positive.

[00:13:19] Right?

[00:13:19] So, end of quote.

[00:13:22] I mean, that tells you a whole lot right there.

[00:13:24] Now, what Rand Paul felt was missing from the campaign was the men and discussion of real issues.

[00:13:32] I mean, real issues that we are facing, issues that he broached when he was on the campaign trail, I must say.

[00:13:38] You know, issues that brought thousands and thousands of college students to hear him wherever he spoke.

[00:13:44] He talked about the real issues of the day, you know, like ending the Fed and getting control of our spending.

[00:13:50] And people flocked in the thousands to hear him speak.

[00:13:56] No matter where he was, thousands of people came to hear him speak about the real issues.

[00:14:01] Now, Ron mentioned some of those issues in his column here.

[00:14:05] Quote, the destruction caused by interventionism in our economy, in our lives, and in the rest of the world.

[00:14:12] There was no talk about the Federal Reserve and how it hurts the middle class, helps the wealthy, and greases the war machine.

[00:14:20] End of quote.

[00:14:21] Now, here again, boy, he hits really hard on a real issue.

[00:14:25] Well, and then he notes that J.D. Vance enters the scene, right, after Trump chose J.D. Vance as his running mate, as his vice presidential candidate.

[00:14:37] J.D. Vance mentioned some of these good ideas.

[00:14:41] Quote, Vance mentioned last week that he had come to the view that the Federal Reserve was not the benevolent force for good that its supporters claim.

[00:14:50] He didn't say it in those exact words, but that was his point.

[00:14:53] And then Trump surrogate campaigner Elon Musk made an announcement that no doubt terrified the D.C. swamp, where he, to get the government efficiency job Trump suggested, he'd start with a bang, cutting $2 trillion from the federal budget.

[00:15:10] End of quote.

[00:15:11] Wow, that is truly an amazing statement.

[00:15:13] Of course, Sam, one that I hope will come true.

[00:15:17] Dr. Paul then wrote some encouragement to Elon Musk on X, formerly known as Twitter, and Musk responded, quote, that he would be happy to have me, meaning Ron Paul, join him in looking for places to cut.

[00:15:31] End of quote.

[00:15:32] Now, just imagine if Ron Paul and Elon Musk got together to cut spending and then you put Rand Paul as the leader of the Senate.

[00:15:39] I mean, you actually might get somewhere, Lowell.

[00:15:42] Yeah, we might actually have some actual cuts in spending.

[00:15:46] That would be totally awesome.

[00:15:48] I mean, that would be unprecedented.

[00:15:50] I don't think in the last, I don't know, five decades that we've actually had actual cuts in spending.

[00:15:56] This would be, you know, historic.

[00:15:58] Historical, I tell you.

[00:16:00] Very historical.

[00:16:00] Ron Paul continues here, quote, while the last thing I'm looking for is another job, I'm encouraged by the outpouring of support and happy to help any effort to correct the wrong path within going down, a path toward total bankruptcy.

[00:16:18] End of quote.

[00:16:20] And then Ron Paul concludes his column with a paragraph that relates to something that our group host, Sam Bushman.

[00:16:26] This is rich, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:16:28] Go ahead, sir.

[00:16:31] His last paragraph relates to something that our host, Sam Bushman, has been saying for years.

[00:16:37] Something about the alternative media taking center stage.

[00:16:41] Paul writes this, quote, perhaps the most encouraging development this election cycle is the well-earned decline in the influence of the corrupt mainstream media.

[00:16:52] When Elon posted, speaking of Ron Paul, Ron Paul's talking here.

[00:16:59] When Elon posted a funny meme of the two of us cutting government on his Twitter slash X platform, it garnered some 50 million views.

[00:17:09] Five zero million, right?

[00:17:11] 50 million views.

[00:17:12] Compare that to the steady decline of mainstream media viewership.

[00:17:17] An alternative way of reporting and analyzing the events of our time is emerging on the ruins of the legacy media, and it's driving them insane.

[00:17:27] Good.

[00:17:28] Period.

[00:17:29] End of quote.

[00:17:30] It says Ron Paul.

[00:17:32] Amen to that.

[00:17:33] When you think of the mainstream legacy press, you're like, na, na, na, na.

[00:17:37] Hey, hey, hey.

[00:17:39] Goodbye.

[00:17:41] Wow.

[00:17:43] Wow.

[00:17:43] Anyway, Ron, that's what I mean, though, is Ron Paul is so spot on with everything he points out.

[00:17:49] And he does talk about, you know what, with J.D. Vance and Elon Musk and RFKJR and all the new media taking center stage.

[00:17:58] Look, ideas are back in this campaign.

[00:18:01] And I do love that point.

[00:18:03] And we've got to bring these ideas to reality by getting involved.

[00:18:07] Look, we should have a huge push for Ron Paul to lead the Senate, folks.

[00:18:10] We should say this ain't over yet.

[00:18:13] Just imagine a Hail Mary getting that done, Lowell.

[00:18:16] Yeah, that's, you know, I'm going to write Mike Lee today and say, Mike, we need Rand Paul as Senate leader, you know, majority leader.

[00:18:24] Not, I mean, Rick's got to be okay.

[00:18:26] But do we want just an okay leader?

[00:18:29] Why not have a dynamic leader who has proposed actual cuts to our spending, you know, leading the Senate?

[00:18:36] That's what I'm going to say.

[00:18:37] What an opportunity for Trump, too, to kind of embrace Rand Paul, who ran against him in 16 for the, you know, presidential bid and stuff like that.

[00:18:45] What a way to bring some of those kind of people into the cabinet.

[00:18:47] Reject Haley and some of these other clowns, Mike Pompeo, which is Donald Dunn, good for him.

[00:18:53] But then move forward and embrace Rand and Ron in meaningful ways because, boy, howdy, have they been soldiers in defense of the truth and honor for a long time.

[00:19:04] Thus, the whole organization of CampaignForLiberty.org get involved with their incredible work today.

[00:19:10] They also have Young Americans for Liberty, which is a sister organization, doing a phenomenal job on college campuses all across the country.

[00:19:16] And I've been really talking to a lot of college youth for a lot of reasons lately and really tapping them into that organization because that's really, in my opinion, where they can gain significant ground and have increased influence.

[00:19:29] This next question by Judge Andrew Napolitano is a scary question to ask.

[00:19:35] I don't even like asking the question at the same time.

[00:19:38] It must be asked, lol.

[00:19:41] What if voting is fruitless?

[00:19:43] That is his question.

[00:19:45] And you Napolitano, what if voting is fruitless?

[00:19:48] Now, I don't like asking that question because I don't believe all voting is fruitless, Sam.

[00:19:54] Some of it may be, you know, there's a lot of votes that got canceled in 2020 and also in the 2020 election.

[00:20:01] Let me stop and interrupt, though.

[00:20:02] I don't think even under the most dire conditions can you say it's fruitless.

[00:20:06] And I'll explain why in a minute.

[00:20:07] But I don't believe so under the most dire circumstance.

[00:20:10] Now, can it be circumvented?

[00:20:12] Do we got a lot of work to do to protect it and everything else?

[00:20:15] Absolutely.

[00:20:15] But the idea is it fruitless?

[00:20:17] I'll explain my views in a second on this, but I don't think ever is it fruitless.

[00:20:21] And I want to really make that point.

[00:20:22] So it's a great question to ask to vet the details.

[00:20:25] But we've got to keep firmly in mind it's never fruitless.

[00:20:28] We'll talk about it.

[00:20:29] I totally agree, Sam.

[00:20:31] And part of the function of a title to an article is to capture your attention, right?

[00:20:37] And so both Sam and I looked at this and it captured our attention.

[00:20:41] But we both agree that voting is never fruitless.

[00:20:45] And, you know, I'll explain further down here as well.

[00:20:50] But Judge Andrew Napolitano does something in this column that Ron Paul did occasionally

[00:20:55] when speaking to his colleagues there in the U.S. House, when he was on the House floor

[00:20:59] in the well of the House.

[00:21:01] Sometimes his speeches would be just an endless string of questions.

[00:21:06] You know, he'd ask question after question.

[00:21:08] Now, why would he do that?

[00:21:10] And why did Andrew Napolitano do that here?

[00:21:12] Well, I believe, Sam, it induces our listeners to think more critically about the issue, right?

[00:21:21] And if you're just telling a person what you think, maybe they'll be less inclined to think

[00:21:27] critically about the subject.

[00:21:29] But if you ask a question, then maybe they'll be inclined to think more critically about the issue.

[00:21:35] So Judge Napolitano starts this way.

[00:21:37] He says, what if you were allowed to vote only because it did not make a difference?

[00:21:43] What if no matter how you voted, the elites always got their way?

[00:21:47] What if the concept of one person, one vote was just a fiction created by the government to induce your compliance?

[00:21:55] End of quote.

[00:21:56] Now, I must admit that he is at least partially correct when you consider the swamp in Washington, D.C.,

[00:22:03] because no matter who we send to the swamp, the direction taken by our federal government rarely changes course.

[00:22:10] No matter which party has a majority in Congress or which party's candidate occupies the White House,

[00:22:16] the direction of this regime, this U.S. hegemonic regime, basically remains the same.

[00:22:25] But I don't agree with this 100%.

[00:22:28] I do believe that one good man or one good woman serving in public office can make a big difference.

[00:22:34] In some cases, look at the difference Thomas Massey is making, a single representative from Kentucky.

[00:22:41] He makes a huge difference there in the U.S. House.

[00:22:44] One of the most important differences is that he always votes right.

[00:22:48] And so I'm telling Mike Kennedy, this new congressman from Utah,

[00:22:52] that you watch how Thomas Massey votes, Mike, and you make sure that you vote with Thomas Massey.

[00:22:59] And if you think that he's wrong, you better have a discussion with him because he is right 99% of the time.

[00:23:07] That's what I'm telling our new congressman from 3rd District.

[00:23:11] What about Roe v. Wade?

[00:23:13] That was overturned, for example.

[00:23:15] That probably would not have happened.

[00:23:18] That's an obfuscation.

[00:23:19] It would probably not return Roe v. Wade had it not been for the appointment of Justices Kavanaugh, Barrett, and Gorsuch,

[00:23:26] which occurred during Trump's first term.

[00:23:29] So do our votes have consequences?

[00:23:31] Oh, absolutely.

[00:23:32] You know, another example, Sam, even though Utah currently allows anyone who collects signatures to run in a party's primary and thus bypass the caucus-elected delegates in convention,

[00:23:46] 80% of the convention winners this year went on to win in the general election, Sam.

[00:23:52] Yeah, so yeah, there were several convention winners, high-profile convention winners who lost in the primary.

[00:23:58] But most of the little guys, they won.

[00:24:01] They won a convention.

[00:24:02] They went on to win the primary.

[00:24:03] They went on to win in the general.

[00:24:05] So elections still matter.

[00:24:08] Sam?

[00:24:08] Yes, they do matter.

[00:24:09] When we get back, I'll expound my views on why it's never fruitless for votes.

[00:24:15] We're going to talk about that, ladies and gentlemen, and it has to do with eternal hope in God Almighty.

[00:24:20] We'll talk about it.

[00:24:21] We've got a lot ahead of us, folks.

[00:24:23] Not enough time, but a whole lot of talk right here on your radio.

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[00:34:29] some ways and i get all that but i love it it's one of my favorite series of all yeah i love that

[00:34:34] movie too sam in fact our family grew up on it we we've watched that probably a dozen times

[00:34:40] all right well then great movie and i re-watch it and everything else and

[00:34:44] here's the quintessential discussion ann is very dramatic and she says i am in the depths

[00:34:51] of despair and it's quite comical and you kind of laugh at her and everything i'm in the depths of

[00:34:57] despair it's so horrible i'm just i'm beyond saving almost is her attitude and camilla has the great

[00:35:03] response that is poppycock that's hogwash to be in utter despair is to turn your back on god

[00:35:12] she says yep don't ever do that and so to turn our ideas about elections into thinking it's fruitless

[00:35:21] or being in utter despair if you will is to turn our back on the proper role of limited constitutional

[00:35:29] government looking to god instead of government see that's the unique experiment that the founding

[00:35:35] fathers embarked on let's look to god and have the people then who have all you know rights given to

[00:35:41] them by god uh delegating authority to government let's okay that is a unique form of government i

[00:35:48] will never turn my back on that to turn your back on voting and my mind is to have utter despair and

[00:35:55] turn your back on god never do it people never do it and by the way that relates to the calm after the

[00:36:02] storm lull

[00:36:05] it sure does sam because you know we believe that the uh the trump victory uh being elected is is a great

[00:36:15] victory and and i think certainly better than the alternative um the u.s stock market surged last

[00:36:22] week because of trump's election bitcoin hit an all-time high of over 75 000 federal reserve notes per

[00:36:29] per coin hamas calls for an end of the war with israel uh this all has happened since uh you know last

[00:36:36] last tuesday's election results have been reported putin is ready to end the war with ukraine zelensky called

[00:36:42] uh donald trump and elon musk to talk you know it looks as though peace is breaking out everywhere sam

[00:36:49] and and you know i i welcome that i embrace that i'm happy you know peace i hope it's real i hope it's

[00:36:56] not just talk and i hope we really do back away but but your point's well taken and it's a tremendous

[00:37:01] start giving us tremendous hope right that's exactly right and so i asked the question of of us

[00:37:09] of our listening audience sam are we good now can we just go back to sleep and now that trump is elected

[00:37:15] uh let him take the wheel and all of our troubles are now going to be solved that's my question sam can

[00:37:23] we just go back to sleep now and and uh forget about uh being involved in politics now that the good guys

[00:37:28] are in charge what do you think sam i think this is the time you wrote to double down i'm going to say to quadruple down

[00:37:38] absolutely not this is the time for us to take courage this is not the time for us to be in utter

[00:37:42] despair and turn our back on god this is the time to have well as kirk cosby our former co-host would

[00:37:49] say i'm going to jump in the boat and take the tartar sauce with me there you go yeah because you know

[00:37:56] after a victory like this generally speaking the electorate goes back to sleep right after after

[00:38:03] bush won the white house in 2001 um or 2000 was it i can't remember that's 2000 then then we said

[00:38:12] okay well it happened even when newt gingrich was in congress in uh 94 right this contract with america

[00:38:19] we had both the house the senate and the presidency or maybe we didn't have the prince i can't remember but

[00:38:23] anyway after the good guys get elected then all the the supporters of the good guys we go back to sleep

[00:38:29] that's usually what happens but folks we must not let that be the case this time right you know it is

[00:38:37] said that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance and i believe that i really believe that we must be

[00:38:43] vigilant um all the time not just when the good guys uh are not in power but but especially when the

[00:38:51] good guys are in power that's when we have to double down or quadruple down as sam says and um i want to

[00:38:58] quote john philpot quran or kukuran i don't know how to say his last name kuran john philpot quran he's

[00:39:07] the one who's who's who gave us that statement basically he said this quote the condition upon which

[00:39:13] god has given liberty to man is eternal vigilance which condition if he breaks servitude is at once the

[00:39:21] consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt end of quote right that's where this uh this

[00:39:28] quote comes from the price of liberty is eternal vigilance and so this is the time to double down to

[00:39:34] work even harder in the cause of liberty and i believe sam the most effective place we can work

[00:39:41] is at the local level in our school boards our our hoas city councils county commissions county

[00:39:49] clerks county sheriffs county other county offices and even our legislatures and our governors and so

[00:39:55] forth because you know washington dc in my view is like a giant aircraft carrier in the thick ocean

[00:40:02] making a 180 degree turn it will take a lot of time and a lot of energy to change its course now compare

[00:40:11] that ship with a little jet ski or a jet boat you know you can turn a jet ski in just a matter of a few

[00:40:18] seconds you know if you're tooling along on a jet ski in the ocean at 45 miles an hour you just slow down

[00:40:26] and you turn around in seconds and and that's the difference between washington dc and your local

[00:40:34] you know school board or your local hoa or your local let's make america states again people

[00:40:41] that's right see your involvement in your local community can have a much much bigger impact than

[00:40:47] you might imagine and and so i want to give an example here sam the best example and the most

[00:40:52] current example i can give is the musical chairs occurring right here in my own congressional district

[00:40:57] my own senate district and my own house district it turns out that see john curtis has served in

[00:41:03] his third congressional district for the past several years he ran for the u.s senate to replace

[00:41:09] mary who chose not to run for another chairman office and around john won the general election well

[00:41:15] that meant that his seat in the house the u.s house would be vacant and so my current state senator mike

[00:41:22] kennedy ran for john's seat in the u.s house and he won it in the general election well that meant that mike's

[00:41:29] seat in the utah house or utah senate would be vacant and so my current state representative brady

[00:41:37] brammer ran for mike's seat and won it in a special senate district election well that meant that brady's

[00:41:43] seat in the utah house would be vacant and so the utah county republican party will be holding a special

[00:41:48] election in house district 54 to fill that vacancy now let me just explain that here in utah is a

[00:41:56] the the party with whom the office holder is affiliated chooses his replacement and then that

[00:42:05] replacement gets appointed by the governor to fill that seat and so in this case mike kennedy is associated

[00:42:10] with the republican party so the republican party selects his replacement and ditto for brady brammer

[00:42:16] in my house district now how is this replacement selected well the vacancy in senate district 21

[00:42:24] is decided by the county delegates who reside in senate district 21 well i happen to live in senate

[00:42:32] district 21 so i was one of the 274 county delegates who voted on mike's replacement and by the way county

[00:42:41] delegate is a resident of a precinct and meaning a neighborhood of no more than about a thousand

[00:42:48] registered voters who is elected in a precinct caucus and is delegated authority to vote in convention

[00:42:54] elections and special elections such as the ones i'm describing here well i also live in house

[00:42:59] district 54. house districts are roughly a third of the size of our senate districts in the state of utah

[00:43:05] which means that i will be one of about a hundred county delegates who select the next legislator in

[00:43:12] house district 54. you see what a difference one involved person can make folks the strength of my vote in

[00:43:20] this house district where there will be roughly 100 votes cast is three times as strong as my vote in the

[00:43:27] senate district where 274 votes were cast which is a thousand times as strong as my vote in the third

[00:43:35] congressional district where over 300 000 were cast well typically you know when you

[00:43:43] bottom line ladies and gentlemen this is not a spectator sport is the point right right this is a

[00:43:49] participated sport and so i'm just telling you that if you're involved in the political process

[00:43:56] that you know who knows um what might happen in your district who knows why and you you live in a

[00:44:05] number of districts you live in a house district and also a senate district and also in a congressional

[00:44:09] district and also state that district meaning the state of you know whatever state you live in and so

[00:44:16] you know voting um is is is absolutely important and i might add sam that voting at the special

[00:44:23] senate district election was done by credential delegates who voted on paper ballots which were

[00:44:30] counted by hand while being observed by whole watchers same day same same hour at a table in the middle

[00:44:39] of the gymnasium floor very very transparent we know the names of each of the 274 voters we know that

[00:44:47] they live in the senate district in other words they're not fandom voters they're dead voters they're

[00:44:52] not voters who have moved from the district they actually live here and they voted in person on paper

[00:44:58] and their ballots were counted by very little chance if any for fraud yep absolutely right so i just cite

[00:45:05] that sam as an example of why voting is important why being involved in the political process

[00:45:13] is important you just never know when your vote is going to count for so much like i tell you sam

[00:45:21] there's going to be a big about 100 people choosing the next state representative and we only have 75 of

[00:45:30] here in the state of utah there's going to be about 100 of us delegates choosing that representative

[00:45:36] that is power sam you know it's serious power and it just shows why we should never think voting is

[00:45:42] fruitless why we should never turn our back on the god-ordained representative constitutional republic

[00:45:48] that we have we must get involved we must realize there's a comment for the storm but it's going to

[00:45:55] ratchet up and it's time for us to take courage to have hope to have faith in and involvement in

[00:46:03] double down ladies and gentlemen and make your efforts count now there's a sad column but a true

[00:46:11] column written by john and nisha whitehead dear friends um post-election truths is the headline the

[00:46:19] things that will not change and i don't think that we should take this as gospel but i do think we

[00:46:25] should have a reality check on this lull in that he's probably right but let's focus on what we can

[00:46:31] change uh and let's you know things that we think we can't change let's try and create an upset on those

[00:46:38] things right yeah yeah that's exactly right now the last 10 minutes our discussion has been centered

[00:46:45] around the idea that our involvement will result in good outcomes right and in other words it's a carrot

[00:46:53] we're not going to get involved because we have the hope of good outcomes now this column here the

[00:47:01] whiteheads are warning us that you know regardless of who won the election things are really really not

[00:47:06] going to change and unless we get involved now this is an important caveat to everything that the whiteheads

[00:47:13] put in their column because they they they say look this is what's going to happen this is and it's not

[00:47:19] going to change unless you know good people get involved at every level and so well what's not going

[00:47:27] to change that's that you got to be thinking that now what what is what are the whiteheads saying is

[00:47:32] not going to change because you know look at the stock market last week look at the calls for peace

[00:47:37] last week looks like great change is on the horizon well the whiteheads write this they say

[00:47:44] uh despite the billions spent to create the illusion of choice culminating in the reassurance ritual of

[00:47:50] voting for donald trump or kamala harris when it comes to the most of the big issues that keep us in

[00:47:56] bondage to authoritarian overlords not much will change and he writes this war will continue drone

[00:48:04] killings will continue surveillance will continue censorship of anyone who criticizes the government will

[00:48:10] continue the government's efforts to label dissidents as extremists and terrorists will continue police

[00:48:17] shootings will continue slot team raids will continue highway robbery meted out by government officials

[00:48:24] will continue corrupt government will continue profit-driven prisons will continue and the

[00:48:30] militarization of the police will continue these problems have persisted and in many cases flourished

[00:48:37] under both republican and democratic administrations in recent years the outcome of this year's election

[00:48:43] changes none of that end of quote wow i mean sam this is a sobering summary of the column he puts the summary

[00:48:51] right up top at top of his column and i think it is especially true if we go to sleep on our country or if

[00:48:59] we are not vigilant and if we fail to involve ourselves in the politics of our communities so sam there i'm underscoring the importance of involvement right

[00:49:09] if we if we go to sleep now thinking that okay trump won the election we can back off and things will be good

[00:49:16] we will uh you know suffer uh a terrible fate this country will suffer a terrible fate if we go to sleep now

[00:49:26] we cannot go to sleep we must not go to sleep we must stay involved and actually double down redouble our efforts

[00:49:33] to get good people doing good things in government right and so the whiteheads then list seven dark efforts

[00:49:41] uh we're not gonna have time to go through all seven of them sam um but uh so let me just highlight all seven of them though and

[00:49:48] people can go read the column uh as well yeah it's a campaign for liberty no it's at ronpaul institute.org right

[00:49:55] that's right yep and also at lourockwell.com so the seven points he makes uh just are these

[00:50:02] undermining the constitution will continue the war against the american people will continue the deep state will continue to rule

[00:50:10] and you know and let me just uh highlight this one here briefly uh he talks about how the deep state

[00:50:17] basically controls the presidency uh regardless of you know and and he he actually gives examples of how

[00:50:24] the deep state um you know rule uh controls the presidency in uh in his example i think was uh trump

[00:50:32] wanted to release he promised to release the papers the jfk papers as the cia has but then the deep state

[00:50:40] came came and talked to him and persuaded him not to for reasons national security right well he promises to release him again this time

[00:50:48] but you you watch sam they will not get released because the cia does not want that uh uh that information out there

[00:50:56] anyway so that that's just to highlight the fact that the deep state is is who's really running the country

[00:51:02] um number four crises will be manipulated to expand government power endless wars will continue uh

[00:51:10] government corruption will continue and government tyranny will continue those are the seven points

[00:51:15] that he makes in this article sam but again with the caveat unless more citizens get involved and i say

[00:51:23] primarily at local levels and so i i and my commentary about this column stand this way sam our our state

[00:51:30] is in our hands that's the way i view this sam i couldn't agree more and that's why i say look

[00:51:38] hope springs eternal we gotta have hope in the system we've got to have trust in the system is it a

[00:51:44] perfect system no no no is it the best system we've got by a long shot yes yes yes our ultimate salvation is

[00:51:54] in waiting for king jesus to return not in any other supposed savior understand that we will not save the

[00:52:00] republic in washington so i am grateful that donald trump won compared to a kamala harris

[00:52:06] and i hope there's going to be good changes at that level but we need to work local and realize that

[00:52:11] our local government is top top down means the president's last in line in a real sense if we

[00:52:17] have local and state and county and laws that are appropriate and we uphold the principle of and rule of law

[00:52:23] uh and bring make all things state again uh we need to make america state again and look the states

[00:52:30] have the majority of the power delegated if you study the dual constitutional reality and republic that

[00:52:35] we live in your state is a republic it has a state constitution we've delegated plenty of authority

[00:52:40] there very limited and defined authority to the general government we need to educate the citizenry to

[00:52:45] look at it like that and demand that be the case when we do we take power back in very meaningful

[00:52:51] law-abiding ways and i will never turn my back on god and lose hope will not do it i'll stand uh for

[00:52:58] god family and country forever and i'll use every influence in every sphere i have to encourage others

[00:53:05] to do the same law absolutely right sam and like i said last week um i think number one we need to pray

[00:53:14] that trump's life will be preserved and over the next two months uh while he's you know preparing to

[00:53:21] take the office of the presidency who knows uh what a fascination attempts might be made on his life again

[00:53:28] uh already there's been a couple and um there'll probably be more because they don't want him to take

[00:53:35] office i i know that for sure i mean i feel that i don't know that for sure but i believe that's the case

[00:53:41] um and then if he if once he takes office if the only thing he does if the only thing he's able to

[00:53:47] accomplish is to free the innocent the political prisoners from prison that would be worth it right

[00:53:54] the j6 uh peaceful protesters who are who are languishing in prison right now um and and other

[00:54:02] and and you know if that's the only thing he's able to do then his election would be worth it sam but we

[00:54:10] need to pray amen to that charlie kirk and others and steve bannon are really pushing on that right

[00:54:15] now we can talk about that another show but there's tremendous work being done we got to back that

[00:54:20] and get involved in every meaningful way as well campaign for liberty.org get involved thank you lol

[00:54:26] you're welcome sam he always does a phenomenal job on your radio ladies and gentlemen i'm telling you

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