Radio Show Hour 2 – 11/04/2024

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:00:24] All right, and happy to have you along, my fellow Americans, Sam Bushman live on your radio.

[00:00:29] Hard-hitting news that I refuse to use, no doubt, continues now.

[00:00:33] This is the broadcast for November the 4th in the year of our Lord, 2024.

[00:00:38] This is Hour 202, the goal always to protect life, liberty, and property, to promote God, family, and country,

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[00:01:03] And a quick tidbit before the broadcast starts here in earnest.

[00:01:08] Tomorrow night, election, all day.

[00:01:12] At the end of the election coverage, though, or at the end of the election night, I should say, we'll be providing coverage.

[00:01:19] Liberty News Radio teaming up with the Big MIG Rumble Channel.

[00:01:22] So it'll be radio and TV.

[00:01:24] Liberty Roundtable.

[00:01:26] Well, let me say this.

[00:01:27] LibertyNewsRadio.com.

[00:01:29] LibertyNewsRadio.com for the radio portion.

[00:01:31] And then look for the Big MIG Rumble channel for the video portion.

[00:01:35] And it's going to be a bunch of us talking about the elections and breaking it down as it unfolds.

[00:01:41] They're now claiming we might not even know who's president by the end of the night.

[00:01:45] Isn't it a disgrace, folks?

[00:01:46] Growing up, they never had digital mail-in, early voting, all this shenanigans.

[00:01:52] And we knew the answer every time at the end of the elections.

[00:01:54] Now they claim, well, we can't hand count because, man, it would take too long.

[00:01:58] But yet, now they can't even give us the answers same night like they used to.

[00:02:03] And to me, it's just a way of cheating.

[00:02:05] But that's my humble opinion.

[00:02:07] But anyway, we'll have election coverage.

[00:02:09] It'll be 7 Eastern to midnight or 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. mountain time.

[00:02:13] Check it out.

[00:02:14] LibertyNewsRadio.com.

[00:02:15] By the way, Lowell Nelson, who's with me now, will be there helping us break that down,

[00:02:20] along with Dr. Scott Bradley, George Ballantin and Lance Migliaccio with Big MIG,

[00:02:26] Scoop Stanton and crew, Walter Yerkew with Radio 75, James Edwards and some people with him.

[00:02:34] Lowell Nelson will be there.

[00:02:36] Lou Moore will be with us.

[00:02:38] Just so many great people that will break down the elections.

[00:02:42] Lowell, welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live, sir.

[00:02:45] Well, thank you, Sam.

[00:02:46] Good to be with you.

[00:02:47] My connection is kind of choppy.

[00:02:49] I'm not sure if you can hear me very well.

[00:02:52] But hopefully.

[00:02:54] It's not very good.

[00:02:54] I'm going to have my producer call you on the phone line if that works.

[00:02:57] Yeah, let's do that.

[00:02:58] Thank you.

[00:02:59] And we'll get that done.

[00:03:00] Go ahead and call that, will you, Liz, really quick.

[00:03:04] Meanwhile, I just want you to understand that, folks, there's so much going on in the elections.

[00:03:10] And, you know, they're saying that Harris found guilty of election violations.

[00:03:15] We're just there's just more and more and more evidence of concern.

[00:03:20] People are saying that, hey, got to lock down D.C.

[00:03:24] They're afraid of violence for the elections.

[00:03:27] I want no part of that, folks.

[00:03:29] I want to encourage any of you from any side of the aisle anywhere.

[00:03:33] Do not be violent no matter what happens during the elections, even if you believe they've cheated and done wrong.

[00:03:40] Okay.

[00:03:40] Put your trust in God Almighty.

[00:03:42] Do what you can to create accountability.

[00:03:44] And but don't know violence for the elections.

[00:03:47] I don't care who wins or loses.

[00:03:49] Lola, you back, sir?

[00:03:50] I'm back.

[00:03:51] Sam, thanks for your patience.

[00:03:52] No problem.

[00:03:53] One of the biggest points I'm making for the elections right now is, hey, no matter who wins, we don't need violence.

[00:03:59] We don't need people going crazy.

[00:04:01] We don't need we've got to stop that mentality.

[00:04:05] We've got to be honorable people and hold the moral high ground, Lola.

[00:04:09] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:04:10] Right.

[00:04:10] Sam, regardless of what happens, let's be civil.

[00:04:13] Let's remain a republic.

[00:04:15] Let's let's not go crazy.

[00:04:17] Even when the government gaslights you folks like they do on so many topics, you can't go crazy.

[00:04:23] You've got to stop the gaslighting and stop them from doing that with education.

[00:04:26] But we've got to really realize.

[00:04:28] And in fact, Ron Paul writes an article.

[00:04:31] Government gaslights people about the economy.

[00:04:35] Government economic figures hide the truth about the economy.

[00:04:40] Ron Paul, what a tremendous spot on article before the election.

[00:04:44] Well, well, that's for sure, Sam.

[00:04:46] And I must say before diving into this, that it's it's because of outlets like like Liberty Roundtable that the people can know the truth about what's going on.

[00:04:58] And so, yeah, they may gaslight us in the mainstream media.

[00:05:01] They may do all kinds of things.

[00:05:03] But it's because of outlets such as Liberty Roundtable that people can know the truth.

[00:05:10] And in fact, the mainstream, you know, lamestream, they have lost their so much of their credibility.

[00:05:18] I mean, Joe Rogan's podcast or Tucker Carlson's, you know, big broadcasts, they are trusted by far much, much more than like the New York Times or ABC News or CNN.

[00:05:35] And that's just it's astounding to me that I mean, you said this for years, Sam, but I always thought, well, that, you know, that that's not going to happen.

[00:05:43] I mean, they just have their big thumb on us too heavily that people will always believe CNN.

[00:05:50] But that's shifted.

[00:05:52] The sand has shifted.

[00:05:53] And what I'm finding is that people don't trust CNN anymore.

[00:05:58] They don't have their credibility, but they do look to shows like yours here on Liberty Roundtable and Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan and others for their news.

[00:06:09] And it's kind of exciting, Sam.

[00:06:13] I don't know what you want to say about that before we dive into Ron Paul's column, but I think that's happening.

[00:06:21] Yeah.

[00:06:21] You know, it's something that I've been telling people about for years because I see it.

[00:06:26] I see what's really happening everywhere.

[00:06:28] And I realize that, you know what, they're losing credibility so fast it's not even funny.

[00:06:33] It's to the point where, look, Donald Trump will even be late for a rally that he's speaking to thousands of people so that he can be on the Joe Rogan podcast.

[00:06:41] It's not even traditional media at all.

[00:06:44] Now, I'm not really a super fan of Joe Rogan, but he is there to make the point, though.

[00:06:48] It's just one guy that does a podcast.

[00:06:51] 20 years ago, you didn't even know what a podcast was, people.

[00:06:56] I happened to watch the opening of the Arizona show, you know, where Tucker Carlson on tour with Donald Trump.

[00:07:05] And so I watched the first hour of that yesterday.

[00:07:08] It was delightful.

[00:07:09] I mean, Jason Hewlett, who's a comedian that Utahns know about, most of the nation had never heard of him before.

[00:07:15] Of course, we've known about him for years.

[00:07:17] He opened that Arizona show and about 45 minutes long opening.

[00:07:24] And he was only scheduled for 25, but extending his time, extending his time because he was so funny and so interesting and so entertaining.

[00:07:34] Anyway, you know, they had, what, 75,000 people at that rally or something?

[00:07:42] Just massive, my friend.

[00:07:44] It was massive.

[00:07:45] So we are having a big impact, we meaning the alternative media, if we call ourselves alternative media.

[00:07:52] And I just wanted to put that out there, that the government, which is gaslighting us about the economy, people don't trust the government figures much anymore.

[00:08:01] It's kind of like they're going down the same, you know, hole that credibility of the lamestream media.

[00:08:09] They're following that pathway.

[00:08:11] And I guess I view that as a good thing.

[00:08:14] And the government, you know, this Brownstone Institute research paper, it describes how the federal government understates inflation,

[00:08:24] while at the same time making wages, profits, and economic growth appear stronger.

[00:08:30] And so the case that Ron Paul is making here is, you know, he says that the U.S. economy has been in a recession since 2022.

[00:08:40] So that's like two full years, over two and a half years probably.

[00:08:44] The government claims...

[00:08:45] Yes, let's be clear.

[00:08:46] We've been telling you that, folks.

[00:08:48] The mainstream press has denied it, denied it, denied it.

[00:08:50] Oh, yeah, inflation is a little bit persistent, but hey, the economy is still good.

[00:08:54] In fact, we don't need to even lower the interest rates.

[00:08:57] Then they come back and they say, oh, Joe, he's not capable of doing anything.

[00:09:00] And by the way, we've got to lower interest rates immediately.

[00:09:02] Things are going south.

[00:09:03] But they lied for literally two years about it.

[00:09:11] For two years, Lowell, they lied.

[00:09:19] Oh, did we lose Lowell?

[00:09:22] All right, yeah, we're checking on Lowell, but they lied about it for two years.

[00:09:27] They literally made you believe the economy was fine.

[00:09:29] Yeah, inflation is a little bit persistent, but hey, it's short term.

[00:09:33] Turned out to be long term and say that it's not persistent.

[00:09:36] Turned out to be persistent.

[00:09:38] They're gaslighting the American people, folks, on not only the economy, but on all kind of things.

[00:09:42] If the dollar loses its world reserve currency status, America would face a world economic crisis.

[00:09:51] A major one.

[00:09:52] It could lead to the collapse of the warfare and welfare state.

[00:09:58] And I guess it could go two ways when that happens.

[00:10:02] You know what?

[00:10:02] We could basically spiral down into, oh, my gosh, let's trade our security for liberty.

[00:10:10] And then we'll have neither.

[00:10:11] Go ahead and call him back.

[00:10:12] I think he was trying to call you or something maybe at the same time.

[00:10:16] But anyway, we could either have it spiral down and people will trade their liberty for security and they'll wind up with neither.

[00:10:22] That would be the bad scenario.

[00:10:25] It could also result in a turn towards respect for the principles of liberty, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:10:31] Limited government, free markets, and a foreign policy of peace and free trade, which is what I'd like to see.

[00:10:39] Right?

[00:10:40] Anyway, hang tight.

[00:10:41] Quick pause.

[00:10:42] I am Sam Bushman.

[00:10:43] We're talking about this incredible column from Ron Paul.

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[00:13:03] Well, thank you.

[00:13:04] Ladies and gentlemen, hi, this is Lowell Nelson.

[00:13:06] I'm Sam's guest this morning, riding shotgun with Sam Bushman here on the Liberty Roundtable Live.

[00:13:12] And by the sounds of that last ad, I need more reliable internet.

[00:13:16] And I apologize to you good folks out there that my connection is so poor this morning.

[00:13:22] But Sam summarized the column very well, I'm sure.

[00:13:25] And I just want to highlight one point here.

[00:13:28] You know, the decisions that lawmakers make, that politicians make, they're based only on the information that they have at hand.

[00:13:35] And so if they get flawed information, the decisions that they make are going to be flawed as well, right?

[00:13:40] And so, I mean, if you think about it, if you're a politician and you get the report that GDP is rising,

[00:13:46] that it's actually improving, and that incomes are improving, increasing, and so forth,

[00:13:51] then you're not going to think there's any problems going on in the economy, right?

[00:13:55] But if you do have the correct information, that GDP is actually falling and that purchase is declining, then you know you have a problem, right?

[00:14:04] And so politicians are only as good as the information that they have at hand.

[00:14:09] And so we need to, as a population, as citizens, we need to make sure that they have their correct information.

[00:14:16] So that's why it's important for us to always stay in touch with them and help them understand that, yeah,

[00:14:21] the economy is terrible or, you know, it's really worse than it is.

[00:14:26] And so by staying tuned to alternative outlets such as Liberty Roundtable Life, we can know the truth, right?

[00:14:33] We can know that GDP is not rising.

[00:14:37] And we've actually been in a recession the past two years.

[00:14:40] And communicating that to our politicians helps them, you know, if they're sincere, if they're honest,

[00:14:46] and if they're willing to make those necessary changes, then they will listen.

[00:14:51] And, and, and, and by the way, if they're not listening, then give a new one, you know, get a, you know,

[00:14:57] elect to somebody who will listen and who will keep a, you know, we've got state legislators who,

[00:15:04] who do listen to, to us.

[00:15:07] And, and so it's, it's a good thing because then we help, we help them make good law when we're involved in the conversation.

[00:15:15] So anyway, that's just what I wanted to say about in conclusion, Ron Paul's column before going on to the next thing on my list, Sam.

[00:15:26] So ladies and gentlemen, just one more comment on this.

[00:15:28] It's very hard to gaslight the American people when they listen to Liberty Roundtable Live because we throw down,

[00:15:33] we are truth tellers on your radio, ladies and gentlemen, and we don't let them get by with much.

[00:15:37] And so if you listen to the truth tellers, you know, on Liberty News Radio and that kind of stuff,

[00:15:42] you really begin to understand things in a different way.

[00:15:46] Three ideas from the weekend make the point very well, Lowell.

[00:15:49] Well, county delegates in Utah Senate District 21 held a special election on Saturday morning to fill the vacancy there.

[00:15:59] Well, the vacancy was, is caused by Mike Kennedy, who's likely to win a seat in the U.S. House for Utah's third congressional district.

[00:16:09] He's likely to win that seat tomorrow in tomorrow's election.

[00:16:13] And, and so contingent upon who's winning that seat, we held an election to fill the seat that he's vacating in the Utah Senate.

[00:16:22] And so that's, that's neither here nor there, but after the election, I was talking to a number of acquaintances,

[00:16:28] discussing some ideas that I just thought I would mention briefly.

[00:16:31] I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but, but there are ideas that may have come up before.

[00:16:36] One of them is a brand new idea.

[00:16:37] Anyway, the first idea is for Congress to forfeit their paychecks if and when, or as far as long as the government is shut down.

[00:16:44] And, you know, not just hold them until later, like back pay, but actually forfeit their salary for the two week period or the month period.

[00:16:51] I don't know how often they're paid, but it may, if it's monthly, then they just forfeit that check that month.

[00:16:57] If, if, if Congress shuts down the government, this might help induce Congress not to shut down the government.

[00:17:04] But of course, you know, you and I both know that when the federal government does a shutdown, they really don't want to stop working.

[00:17:10] They just close the national parks and they're saying services, which causes a public outcry, which gives Congress the pretext to end the shutdown.

[00:17:19] Right.

[00:17:19] So I don't know, Sam, if you have any more to say about that idea or not.

[00:17:23] Well, the only idea that I would have is this.

[00:17:25] I mean, I appreciate that, but I want the government to shut down, especially the unconstitutional portion of government.

[00:17:30] I want it to shut down all the time.

[00:17:32] So I would say this, you know what, if you guys will shut down unconstitutional government.

[00:17:36] I mean, I say we give you guys a little bit of a bonus for every government agency you shut down permanently.

[00:17:41] There you go.

[00:17:42] I like that.

[00:17:43] I get the new American article I read last night said that if government were constitutional, the federal government were constitutional only, it would be only 20 percent of its current size.

[00:17:54] I've always been saying like, like maybe 1 percent of its current size and reach.

[00:17:59] If it was, if it only did.

[00:18:00] I would say 10 percent, because again, we, we've overlooked the interest that we pay on the debt.

[00:18:04] And a lot of those kind of things, too.

[00:18:07] And just think how much extra effort it takes to maintain all those programs and things.

[00:18:12] And so whether it's 20 percent, 10 percent, 1 percent, who knows?

[00:18:15] But we'd get rid of 80 percent at a minimum of government and obligations.

[00:18:19] And so I think we ought to just say to, you know, politicians, hey, look, I'll give you a bonus if you shut down a government agency.

[00:18:25] For everyone you shut down, we'll go ahead and give you a bonus.

[00:18:28] But it's got to be permanently shut down.

[00:18:29] And it's got to be an unconstitutional agency.

[00:18:32] So don't don't beat us up on the proper rule of government over the altar of this lie.

[00:18:36] Be honest.

[00:18:37] Shut down unconstitutional agencies that we don't need to bring back.

[00:18:40] And we'll give you a bonus for everyone.

[00:18:42] You do.

[00:18:42] I don't know how much we'll give you.

[00:18:43] Five hundred bucks, whatever it be.

[00:18:44] Thousand bucks for everyone.

[00:18:45] You know, they'd get rich and would get out of debt.

[00:18:48] Would change the game in an instant.

[00:18:51] Right.

[00:18:51] But right now, you got us tweedledee and tweedledum up there and stuff.

[00:18:54] And both of them have spent us into oblivion is the point.

[00:18:58] Yeah, that's for sure.

[00:19:00] Well, that's a that's a column by Andrew Napolitano.

[00:19:04] And, you know, some of our listeners are not going to like what Andrew Napolitano wrote in this column, Sam.

[00:19:09] All right.

[00:19:09] Now, let me just set the record straight.

[00:19:11] I love what he wrote.

[00:19:13] I know.

[00:19:14] I know.

[00:19:14] Me, too.

[00:19:16] You and I love this column because he's spot on.

[00:19:20] Andrew Napolitano is spot on with this.

[00:19:22] But but a lot of our some of our listeners are probably not going to like it.

[00:19:26] But understand, we don't gaslight on this program, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:19:29] We're truth tellers.

[00:19:30] And so, you know what?

[00:19:31] It is what it is, people.

[00:19:33] We we we channel Patrick Henry, who said it's natural to man to indulge in the illusion.

[00:19:39] He says we are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth and and listen to the song of that siren until she transforms us into beasts.

[00:19:49] Is this the part of wise men engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?

[00:19:56] Are we disposed to be of a number of those who having eyes see not and hear not the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?

[00:20:07] For my part, comma, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst and to provide for it.

[00:20:17] End of quote.

[00:20:19] I love that.

[00:20:20] You know, he didn't put that in his column, Sam, but I just had to bring that out.

[00:20:24] That certainly came to mind as I read this column.

[00:20:28] He just now, he talks about the two major policy, the two major party candidates for the office of U.S.

[00:20:34] president.

[00:20:35] You know, he's talking about Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.

[00:20:38] He calls them Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

[00:20:41] Now, I'm not sure why he calls them that.

[00:20:43] I'm not familiar with those two characters, but I can use my imagination.

[00:20:47] I'm pretty sure Judge Knapp is not complimenting those two candidates.

[00:20:52] He says he hasn't voted for a Republican or a Democrat since he voted for Ronald Reagan in 1976.

[00:20:58] Since those days, he says, quote, the Democrats have gravitated to principles of the government that would make FDR blush.

[00:21:06] And the Republicans have abandoned all principles.

[00:21:09] End of quote.

[00:21:10] He writes that Democrats do not believe that the Constitution restrains the federal government.

[00:21:16] They say so, and they act upon it.

[00:21:19] They believe that Congress is a general legislator that can right any wrong, tax any event, regulate any behavior,

[00:21:25] and intrude upon any relationship so long as there is a national political will for them to do so.

[00:21:34] Most Republicans believe the same, but don't acknowledge believing it for fear of sounding like the Democrats,

[00:21:39] whom they profess to hate.

[00:21:41] End of quote.

[00:21:42] It's just so much fun to read Judge Napolitano when he's speaking like this.

[00:21:46] Yeah, because he's entertaining.

[00:21:48] He's hardcore.

[00:21:50] He's an absolute truth teller, but he puts it in kind of fun prose that make sense.

[00:21:54] Let me kind of make the point for you to help out a little bit.

[00:21:57] Tweedledee and Tweedledum, ladies and gentlemen, are characters from Lewis Carroll's literature.

[00:22:02] You ever heard of The Looking Glass, for instance?

[00:22:05] Yeah, it's 1871 Looking Glass novel.

[00:22:07] Mm-hmm.

[00:22:09] Is the sequel to the famous Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, right?

[00:22:17] Alice in Wonderland, okay.

[00:22:18] Anyway, in The Looking Glass, they encounter two identical brothers,

[00:22:24] and those brothers are twiddly, twiddledum, known for their playful and somewhat nonsensical behavior, right?

[00:22:32] Okay.

[00:22:33] Anyway, they recite poetry and engage in comical arguments, whimsical, an uncertain nature of Carroll's

[00:22:40] and Magisterial world.

[00:22:41] Anyway, then they say synonymous with, and this is where it kind of comes forward,

[00:22:46] two people who act and behave in identical, non-distinguishable, different, but inconsequential ways.

[00:22:55] Right.

[00:22:55] Okay.

[00:22:56] And so there you have it.

[00:22:58] Well, then I think that characterizes Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

[00:23:03] Yeah, because they're totally different.

[00:23:05] They're totally different in so many ways.

[00:23:07] Yeah.

[00:23:08] But, and here's what he highlights where they're twiddledy and twiddledum.

[00:23:13] Lowell?

[00:23:15] Yeah, they both favor war against countries and against people that pose no threat whatsoever to us here in the U.S.,

[00:23:23] and they do so because it appears either domestically popular or financially beneficial to their campaigns.

[00:23:31] You see, and that's, we've talked about that before, right?

[00:23:34] I mean, the tremendous influence that the big pharma has on politicians and that the defense,

[00:23:41] you know, the armaments manufacturers have on our politicians.

[00:23:45] You see, I think that, I don't think war is domestically popular.

[00:23:49] I think that people are tired of the endless wars around the world.

[00:23:54] It's because they get campaign contributions from armament manufacturers that they continue to vote for more war

[00:24:01] and to send more money to Ukraine and to Israel and so forth.

[00:24:05] That's what I think is really happening behind the scenes in Congress, Sam.

[00:24:10] Tweedledee and Tweedledum would both spin us into oblivion is the point Judge Knapp is making.

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[00:30:14] From atop the Rocky Mountains,

[00:30:16] the crossroads of the West,

[00:30:18] you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:30:25] Thank you, and welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:30:27] This is Lowell Nelson riding shotgun with your host, Sam Bushman,

[00:30:31] here on Liberty Roundtable Live today.

[00:30:34] We've been talking about Judge Napolitano's column last week

[00:30:38] about Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

[00:30:40] Both of these candidates for U.S. President,

[00:30:43] Donald Trump and Kamala Harris,

[00:30:45] want to spin this into oblivion.

[00:30:47] They both believe in giveaways for the poor,

[00:30:50] tax breaks for the middle class,

[00:30:51] bailouts for the rich,

[00:30:52] bribes for the states,

[00:30:54] just to maintain themselves and their parties in power.

[00:30:57] Neither one believes in the values

[00:30:59] that underlie the Constitution.

[00:31:02] One candidate wants to amend the First Amendment

[00:31:04] out of existence, basically,

[00:31:07] to enable Congress to criminalize flag burning.

[00:31:10] That same candidate wants to amend the Fifth Amendment,

[00:31:13] which guarantees a fair trial, right,

[00:31:16] before the government can take life, liberty, and property.

[00:31:19] That candidate wants to permit local police

[00:31:21] and federal agents to administer corporal punishment

[00:31:24] at the scene of a crime.

[00:31:26] Never mind that they might beat the daylights

[00:31:28] out of the wrong person.

[00:31:29] Never mind that they might completely misinterpret events

[00:31:32] that occurred before they arrived on the scene.

[00:31:34] And never mind that one man's punch in the gut

[00:31:36] is another man's kiss on the cheek.

[00:31:38] This candidate wants the Constitution

[00:31:40] to permit this, quote-unquote, rough justice.

[00:31:44] Where's that going to lead to, folks?

[00:31:45] I think you and I both know.

[00:31:49] So to one candidate,

[00:31:51] rights are not natural to persons,

[00:31:53] but are granted by the laws of a place

[00:31:55] where one's mother was physically located

[00:31:57] at the time of her birth, right?

[00:31:59] Tell that to Thomas Jefferson and James Madison,

[00:32:01] who, in writing the Declaration of Independence

[00:32:04] and the Constitution,

[00:32:05] underscored the fact that one's natural rights

[00:32:08] comes from our Creator, right?

[00:32:11] Now, also, one of the candidates,

[00:32:13] Tweedledee, Tweedledum,

[00:32:14] wants to permit mothers and their physicians

[00:32:16] to kill babies in the womb

[00:32:18] up to the moment of birth

[00:32:20] for reasons of convenience.

[00:32:22] Basically, this candidate

[00:32:23] somehow equates baby killing

[00:32:25] with personal autonomy.

[00:32:27] He even calls this killing, this murder,

[00:32:29] a right that a woman has.

[00:32:32] Well, this candidate needs to understand

[00:32:35] that the greatest human right

[00:32:37] is the right to live.

[00:32:39] And that's part of the gift of the Creator

[00:32:41] who loves all life.

[00:32:43] Well, the other candidate

[00:32:45] is not too far behind

[00:32:47] because that candidate

[00:32:49] would also permit baby killing,

[00:32:50] but only up to 16 weeks

[00:32:52] of pregnancy, you know?

[00:32:54] Judge Knapp and I believe

[00:32:56] that killing a baby at any time

[00:32:58] should be just unfathomable.

[00:33:00] It's murder.

[00:33:02] So anyway,

[00:33:03] so those are some of the highlights

[00:33:05] of this column.

[00:33:07] Both candidates want to spend

[00:33:08] more on military

[00:33:08] than the next 10 countries

[00:33:10] combined spend on their military.

[00:33:12] So does it really matter

[00:33:13] who's president?

[00:33:15] Well, it certainly does emotionally.

[00:33:17] Half the country wants one

[00:33:18] and half the country wants the other.

[00:33:19] You know,

[00:33:20] Tweedledee or Tweedledum.

[00:33:22] But it doesn't matter constitutionally.

[00:33:25] Both Harris and Trump

[00:33:26] will kill innocents.

[00:33:27] They'll borrow billions,

[00:33:29] trillions really

[00:33:30] and crush liberty

[00:33:31] just to please their supporters

[00:33:33] and to stay in power.

[00:33:35] That's the bottom line

[00:33:36] from this column.

[00:33:37] Now,

[00:33:37] I have a slightly nuanced,

[00:33:40] you know,

[00:33:41] feeling about this.

[00:33:42] You know,

[00:33:43] even though I've probably offended

[00:33:44] all of our listeners,

[00:33:45] Sam,

[00:33:45] I would suggest to voters

[00:33:47] in battleground states,

[00:33:48] still,

[00:33:49] they ought to vote for Trump.

[00:33:50] Why?

[00:33:51] Well,

[00:33:51] both parties hate him.

[00:33:53] The deep state hates him

[00:33:54] and is likely behind the attempts

[00:33:56] to assassinate him.

[00:33:57] The lamestream media hates him.

[00:33:59] So at some level,

[00:34:01] he must be doing some things right.

[00:34:03] And plus,

[00:34:04] in retrospect,

[00:34:05] what about the overturning Roe v. Wade,

[00:34:07] right?

[00:34:07] The Dobbs decision

[00:34:10] probably wouldn't have happened

[00:34:11] without Neil Gorsuch,

[00:34:12] Brett Kavanaugh,

[00:34:13] and Amy Coney Barrett

[00:34:14] on the bench.

[00:34:15] And he appointed all three

[00:34:17] of those justices.

[00:34:19] And just final parting shot here,

[00:34:21] Sam,

[00:34:21] if Donald Trump

[00:34:24] takes office

[00:34:25] and does nothing more

[00:34:27] than pardon

[00:34:28] some of these innocents

[00:34:29] who are in prison,

[00:34:30] like Tina Peters,

[00:34:31] the former county clerk

[00:34:32] of Mesa County, Colorado,

[00:34:33] who helped expose

[00:34:34] the perfidy

[00:34:35] of the Dominion voting machines,

[00:34:37] right?

[00:34:37] How about Ian Freeman,

[00:34:39] who just simply sold Bitcoin

[00:34:40] there in New Hampshire?

[00:34:42] What about Ross Ulbricht,

[00:34:43] the founder

[00:34:44] of the Silk Road website?

[00:34:45] And what about

[00:34:46] all of the J6 prisoners?

[00:34:49] Silk Road's being chief among them.

[00:34:51] Absolutely right.

[00:34:52] I mean,

[00:34:52] if that's the only thing

[00:34:53] that Trump does

[00:34:54] on his first day in office,

[00:34:56] then his election

[00:34:57] will have been worthwhile,

[00:34:59] in my opinion.

[00:35:00] And I agree with your point.

[00:35:01] And I would say this,

[00:35:02] though,

[00:35:03] constitutionally,

[00:35:03] the reason I love his column

[00:35:05] is because he constitutionally

[00:35:06] has a point

[00:35:07] that you can't argue against.

[00:35:09] But I will say this.

[00:35:10] It's not so much

[00:35:11] that Trump will do

[00:35:11] as much of the right things

[00:35:12] as we would want him to.

[00:35:13] It's that he won't do

[00:35:15] as many of the wrong things

[00:35:16] as Kamala will.

[00:35:18] That's really the point here.

[00:35:19] Donald Trump will not

[00:35:20] take us down

[00:35:21] some of the dark roads.

[00:35:21] Kamala will.

[00:35:22] He just won't.

[00:35:23] And we at least have evidence

[00:35:24] of him being the president

[00:35:26] to know that he won't.

[00:35:27] Okay?

[00:35:28] And that's something

[00:35:28] really, really,

[00:35:29] really important.

[00:35:30] Now,

[00:35:30] the way that Judge Knapp

[00:35:32] finishes,

[00:35:33] I really like

[00:35:33] because I think

[00:35:34] this is the point

[00:35:35] that we need to take

[00:35:35] home from this.

[00:35:37] We need constitutional

[00:35:38] people, folks.

[00:35:39] Where are you,

[00:35:40] Thomas Jefferson

[00:35:41] and James Madison?

[00:35:43] Question mark.

[00:35:44] The nation turns

[00:35:45] its lonely eyes

[00:35:46] to you.

[00:35:47] Amen to that.

[00:35:49] Because that's what

[00:35:50] we really need, though.

[00:35:50] We need the Dr. Scott Bradleys

[00:35:52] and the Lowell Nelsons

[00:35:53] and the Campaign

[00:35:54] for Liberty people

[00:35:54] and the Young Americans

[00:35:56] for Liberty people

[00:35:56] and the people

[00:35:57] that are involved

[00:35:58] in the John Birch Society

[00:36:01] and people that are involved

[00:36:02] in all these organizations

[00:36:04] to really step up

[00:36:05] and run for office.

[00:36:06] Okay?

[00:36:07] That's what we need.

[00:36:08] So Judge Knapp

[00:36:09] is making the point

[00:36:09] that we need to look

[00:36:10] to new candidates

[00:36:11] and right now,

[00:36:11] hey, the election's tomorrow.

[00:36:12] You've got two choices

[00:36:13] or you can write in somebody.

[00:36:15] That's your deal.

[00:36:16] I know there's a couple

[00:36:17] more people on there

[00:36:17] you can vote for Jill Stein

[00:36:18] or some other clown act

[00:36:20] but all I'm saying is,

[00:36:22] look,

[00:36:22] we have got to put

[00:36:23] better candidates up

[00:36:24] and that's his main point

[00:36:25] that we need

[00:36:26] constitutional people

[00:36:27] to vote for

[00:36:28] and boy,

[00:36:28] howdy do I agree

[00:36:29] with that, Lowell.

[00:36:30] Oh, 100%.

[00:36:31] I'm with you 100%

[00:36:32] on that, Sam.

[00:36:33] Absolutely.

[00:36:35] And, you know,

[00:36:36] I think that,

[00:36:37] you know,

[00:36:38] vote for Joel Skousen.

[00:36:39] If you don't live

[00:36:40] in a battleground state,

[00:36:41] yeah,

[00:36:41] vote for Joel Skousen.

[00:36:43] That guy understands

[00:36:44] the Constitution

[00:36:45] better than the rest

[00:36:46] of the candidates combined

[00:36:48] and, you know,

[00:36:49] he might not be

[00:36:50] a Scott Bradley

[00:36:51] but boy,

[00:36:52] he's certainly knowledgeable

[00:36:53] about the Constitution.

[00:36:55] He knows who

[00:36:55] the deep state actors are.

[00:36:57] He understands history.

[00:36:58] I mean,

[00:36:59] tremendous reasons

[00:37:00] to vote for Joel Skousen

[00:37:01] for president

[00:37:02] but does he have a chance?

[00:37:03] No.

[00:37:04] He doesn't have a chance

[00:37:04] of being elected

[00:37:07] but we need to get there

[00:37:08] and I really appreciate

[00:37:09] judging him.

[00:37:09] I believe he's a good,

[00:37:10] honest, wise person

[00:37:11] we could vote for.

[00:37:12] That's right.

[00:37:13] Absolutely.

[00:37:13] Yeah.

[00:37:14] So anyway,

[00:37:14] the point though is

[00:37:15] that I think that

[00:37:16] this column is great

[00:37:17] because it really makes

[00:37:18] you wake up and think.

[00:37:18] It really focuses

[00:37:19] on the constitutionality

[00:37:20] of candidates

[00:37:21] and it really focuses

[00:37:22] on what we need to do

[00:37:23] is make sure

[00:37:23] that we have better choices

[00:37:25] going forward.

[00:37:25] It does matter

[00:37:26] who's president,

[00:37:27] ladies and gentlemen

[00:37:28] because I really believe

[00:37:29] that Donald will not do

[00:37:30] a lot of things

[00:37:31] that Kamala will do

[00:37:32] and it's what he won't do

[00:37:33] more than what he will do

[00:37:34] that really kind of

[00:37:35] in my opinion

[00:37:36] puts Donald Trump

[00:37:37] in a better position

[00:37:38] than Kamala

[00:37:39] even though he's far

[00:37:40] from what I would want

[00:37:40] him to be.

[00:37:41] That is a reality check

[00:37:43] that I think we need

[00:37:43] to really understand.

[00:37:45] We also need to kind of

[00:37:46] go ahead.

[00:37:47] And one other point

[00:37:48] I want to make there Sam

[00:37:48] is that here in the state

[00:37:50] I think the state elections

[00:37:51] the local elections

[00:37:52] are even more important

[00:37:53] than the presidential election.

[00:37:55] I know that we talk

[00:37:56] about the presidential election

[00:37:57] this is a national show

[00:37:59] but your state elections

[00:38:01] your local elections

[00:38:02] you know for commissioners

[00:38:03] county commissioners

[00:38:04] or for city councilmen

[00:38:05] or for school board

[00:38:06] I think a school board position

[00:38:09] is maybe one of the most

[00:38:11] important positions

[00:38:12] you have to elect

[00:38:14] but anyway

[00:38:15] local elections

[00:38:16] your state legislators

[00:38:17] is where the action really

[00:38:19] where our attention

[00:38:20] really ought to be focused

[00:38:21] and I'm happy to say Sam

[00:38:22] that here in the state

[00:38:23] of Utah

[00:38:24] 80% of the people

[00:38:27] that the party supported

[00:38:30] won their offices

[00:38:32] in convention

[00:38:33] meaning

[00:38:33] by local

[00:38:35] precinct elected delegates

[00:38:37] you know

[00:38:38] we have a caucus

[00:38:38] convention system

[00:38:39] here in Utah

[00:38:40] we don't elect

[00:38:41] everybody by primary

[00:38:42] we elect them

[00:38:43] using our caucus

[00:38:44] convention system

[00:38:45] and it's such a

[00:38:47] it's a much

[00:38:48] much better way

[00:38:49] unless they commit fraud

[00:38:50] like they did with

[00:38:51] Phil Lyman

[00:38:51] but you're right

[00:38:52] for the most part

[00:38:52] that's what we do

[00:38:53] I'm going to the elections

[00:38:55] tomorrow primarily

[00:38:55] to vote no on the amendments

[00:38:57] to vote all the judges out

[00:38:58] and to write in Phil Lyman

[00:39:02] for AG

[00:39:03] and for Carlton Bowen

[00:39:06] for U.S. Senate

[00:39:07] because these guys

[00:39:08] they truly understand

[00:39:09] the Constitution

[00:39:10] and that's the most

[00:39:12] important thing

[00:39:12] you can do tomorrow

[00:39:13] if you let me use them

[00:39:14] Who did you say

[00:39:14] for AG again?

[00:39:15] Let's make sure

[00:39:16] people heard that

[00:39:17] Austin Hepworth

[00:39:19] Austin Hepworth

[00:39:20] yep yep

[00:39:20] and Carlton Bowen

[00:39:22] for the U.S. Senate

[00:39:23] to replace Mitt Romney

[00:39:24] so

[00:39:25] anyway

[00:39:25] there's a lot to do

[00:39:26] later and then

[00:39:26] I mentioned John

[00:39:27] Birch Society Campaign

[00:39:28] for Liberty

[00:39:29] Young Americans

[00:39:29] for Liberty

[00:39:30] and a variety

[00:39:31] of other groups

[00:39:31] that are doing

[00:39:32] a phenomenal job

[00:39:33] you know

[00:39:34] we really need

[00:39:35] to make America

[00:39:35] states again

[00:39:37] you know

[00:39:37] it seems like

[00:39:38] it's just

[00:39:38] everything is federal

[00:39:39] these days

[00:39:40] and that's got

[00:39:40] to change

[00:39:41] Lowell

[00:39:42] yeah for sure

[00:39:43] and I'm glad

[00:39:44] that you mentioned

[00:39:45] that Sam

[00:39:46] the new American

[00:39:47] magazine headline

[00:39:49] of the October

[00:39:50] 14th edition

[00:39:51] was make America

[00:39:52] states again

[00:39:53] now this is a play

[00:39:55] on the slogan

[00:39:56] you know

[00:39:56] make America

[00:39:57] great again

[00:39:57] make America

[00:39:58] healthy again

[00:40:01] and it's spot on

[00:40:02] because in order

[00:40:03] to make America

[00:40:04] great again

[00:40:05] we must make

[00:40:05] America

[00:40:06] states again

[00:40:07] I mean

[00:40:08] that's the

[00:40:09] double entendre

[00:40:11] there

[00:40:11] and I believe

[00:40:13] that

[00:40:13] in fact

[00:40:14] I have a radio show

[00:40:15] as you know

[00:40:15] Sam

[00:40:16] entitled

[00:40:16] Path to State

[00:40:17] and Local

[00:40:18] Sovereignty

[00:40:18] where I discuss

[00:40:19] the importance

[00:40:20] of state

[00:40:21] and local

[00:40:21] jurisdictions

[00:40:22] nullifying

[00:40:23] the unconstitutional

[00:40:24] acts of the

[00:40:25] general government

[00:40:26] and that's what

[00:40:26] the articles

[00:40:27] in this edition

[00:40:28] of the new

[00:40:29] American magazine

[00:40:30] are saying

[00:40:30] you know

[00:40:31] this

[00:40:31] let me just

[00:40:32] quote this

[00:40:33] part from

[00:40:34] from Gary Benoit

[00:40:35] the editor

[00:40:36] in the introduction

[00:40:37] he says

[00:40:37] the U

[00:40:38] well yeah

[00:40:39] we probably need

[00:40:39] to go to break

[00:40:40] though Sam

[00:40:40] but

[00:40:41] skip the break

[00:40:42] continue sir

[00:40:43] okay

[00:40:43] yes he says

[00:40:44] this

[00:40:45] the U.S.

[00:40:45] constitution

[00:40:46] created a new

[00:40:47] government

[00:40:47] based on

[00:40:48] the astounding

[00:40:48] principles

[00:40:49] that all men

[00:40:49] are endowed

[00:40:50] by their creator

[00:40:51] with certain

[00:40:51] undeniable rights

[00:40:53] unalienable rights

[00:40:54] and that the

[00:40:54] government derives

[00:40:55] its just powers

[00:40:56] from the consent

[00:40:57] of the governed

[00:40:58] and to prevent

[00:40:59] this new government

[00:41:00] from exceeding

[00:41:01] its proper authority

[00:41:02] and devouring

[00:41:03] the rights

[00:41:04] it is supposed

[00:41:04] to protect

[00:41:05] only a few

[00:41:06] limited powers

[00:41:08] were delegated

[00:41:09] to the federal

[00:41:09] government

[00:41:10] by the constitution

[00:41:10] and even

[00:41:11] those few

[00:41:12] powers

[00:41:13] were subdivided

[00:41:14] among three

[00:41:15] branches

[00:41:16] while most powers

[00:41:17] were retained

[00:41:18] by the states

[00:41:19] and yet the federal

[00:41:21] government

[00:41:22] its delegated

[00:41:23] powers

[00:41:23] endangering

[00:41:25] our freedoms

[00:41:25] and is long

[00:41:26] past time

[00:41:27] for the states

[00:41:28] to assert

[00:41:29] their retained

[00:41:30] powers

[00:41:30] and to rein

[00:41:31] in unconstitutional

[00:41:33] federal

[00:41:34] overreach

[00:41:35] end of quote

[00:41:36] and so

[00:41:37] then he recommends

[00:41:38] you know

[00:41:38] read these four

[00:41:39] articles

[00:41:39] they're all

[00:41:39] cover story

[00:41:40] articles

[00:41:40] this whole

[00:41:41] edition

[00:41:42] of the

[00:41:42] New American

[00:41:43] is full

[00:41:43] of articles

[00:41:44] about

[00:41:45] state sovereignty

[00:41:47] about nullification

[00:41:48] the principles

[00:41:49] of 98

[00:41:50] federalist

[00:41:51] number 45

[00:41:52] federalist

[00:41:52] number 46

[00:41:53] he talks

[00:41:54] about how

[00:41:55] we can

[00:41:56] nullify

[00:41:57] he talks

[00:41:57] about the

[00:41:57] importance

[00:41:58] of nullifying

[00:41:59] of local

[00:42:00] jurisdictions

[00:42:00] nullifying

[00:42:01] the unconstitutional

[00:42:02] acts

[00:42:02] of the federal

[00:42:04] government

[00:42:05] and he says

[00:42:06] sadly

[00:42:07] one of the

[00:42:08] statements

[00:42:08] in one of

[00:42:08] these articles

[00:42:09] I just got

[00:42:10] to quote

[00:42:10] this

[00:42:10] quote

[00:42:11] sadly

[00:42:11] as a result

[00:42:12] of lies

[00:42:13] repeatedly

[00:42:14] taught

[00:42:14] in government

[00:42:15] schools

[00:42:15] and by

[00:42:16] the media

[00:42:17] Americans

[00:42:18] have been

[00:42:18] led to believe

[00:42:19] that all

[00:42:20] laws

[00:42:21] passed by

[00:42:21] Congress

[00:42:21] and signed

[00:42:22] by the

[00:42:22] president

[00:42:23] and presidential

[00:42:24] executive orders

[00:42:25] all federal

[00:42:26] regulations

[00:42:26] and decisions

[00:42:28] opinions

[00:42:28] of the

[00:42:29] supreme

[00:42:29] court

[00:42:30] rulings

[00:42:30] are the

[00:42:31] supreme

[00:42:32] law

[00:42:32] of the

[00:42:32] land

[00:42:33] and must

[00:42:33] be

[00:42:33] implemented

[00:42:34] by the

[00:42:34] states

[00:42:35] who are

[00:42:35] subordinate

[00:42:36] to the

[00:42:37] federal

[00:42:37] government

[00:42:38] end of

[00:42:38] quote

[00:42:38] this is a

[00:42:39] huge

[00:42:40] misunderstanding

[00:42:41] and so

[00:42:42] amen to that

[00:42:43] and I made

[00:42:43] the point

[00:42:43] last hour

[00:42:44] with Dr.

[00:42:44] Scott Bradley

[00:42:45] that I'll

[00:42:45] highlight

[00:42:46] here

[00:42:46] because I

[00:42:46] think it

[00:42:46] really is

[00:42:47] relevant

[00:42:47] think about

[00:42:48] how many

[00:42:48] thousands

[00:42:48] of laws

[00:42:49] they have

[00:42:49] everywhere

[00:42:50] from the

[00:42:51] general

[00:42:51] government

[00:42:51] to the

[00:42:52] state

[00:42:52] world

[00:42:53] whatever

[00:42:53] to the

[00:42:54] county

[00:42:54] to the

[00:42:54] city

[00:42:55] I mean

[00:42:55] even in

[00:42:56] Utah

[00:42:56] they have

[00:42:57] about a

[00:42:57] thousand

[00:42:57] bills

[00:42:57] that hit

[00:42:58] the

[00:42:58] docket

[00:42:58] every year

[00:42:59] and about

[00:42:59] 500

[00:42:59] pass

[00:43:00] or whatever

[00:43:00] every single

[00:43:01] year

[00:43:01] 500

[00:43:02] I'm

[00:43:02] 50

[00:43:02] plus

[00:43:03] years

[00:43:03] old

[00:43:03] think

[00:43:03] about

[00:43:03] how

[00:43:04] many

[00:43:04] that

[00:43:04] is

[00:43:04] just

[00:43:04] in

[00:43:04] one

[00:43:05] state

[00:43:05] and that

[00:43:06] because

[00:43:06] commandments

[00:43:06] of government

[00:43:07] are a gazillion

[00:43:08] but God

[00:43:09] has basically

[00:43:09] two great

[00:43:10] commandments

[00:43:10] love the

[00:43:10] Lord

[00:43:11] thy God

[00:43:11] with all

[00:43:11] thy heart

[00:43:12] might

[00:43:12] mind

[00:43:12] and strength

[00:43:12] and love

[00:43:13] thy

[00:43:13] neighbor

[00:43:13] as thyself

[00:43:14] and really

[00:43:14] what other

[00:43:15] commandments

[00:43:15] could you

[00:43:15] break

[00:43:16] if you

[00:43:16] keep

[00:43:16] those

[00:43:16] two

[00:43:18] isn't

[00:43:18] that

[00:43:18] in comparison

[00:43:19] to make

[00:43:20] the point

[00:43:20] right

[00:43:21] yeah

[00:43:22] yeah

[00:43:22] you know

[00:43:23] and I

[00:43:24] think it's

[00:43:24] Hugh

[00:43:24] Nibley

[00:43:25] who said

[00:43:25] that you

[00:43:25] can gauge

[00:43:27] the decadence

[00:43:28] of a

[00:43:28] civilization

[00:43:29] by the

[00:43:30] amount

[00:43:30] of refuse

[00:43:32] well I think

[00:43:33] you can gauge

[00:43:33] the decadence

[00:43:34] of your

[00:43:34] political system

[00:43:35] by the

[00:43:35] number of

[00:43:36] laws

[00:43:36] that they

[00:43:36] impose

[00:43:37] on the

[00:43:37] people

[00:43:39] so

[00:43:39] very

[00:43:40] interesting

[00:43:40] I appreciate

[00:43:41] that point

[00:43:41] very much

[00:43:42] yeah

[00:43:42] just two

[00:43:43] great

[00:43:43] commandments

[00:43:44] that back

[00:43:45] it up

[00:43:45] I mean

[00:43:45] it just

[00:43:45] provides

[00:43:46] a little

[00:43:46] bit more

[00:43:46] clarity

[00:43:47] for specific

[00:43:47] things

[00:43:48] that they're

[00:43:48] calling

[00:43:48] out

[00:43:49] to kind

[00:43:49] of

[00:43:49] double

[00:43:50] support

[00:43:51] it

[00:43:51] but I

[00:43:51] mean

[00:43:51] if you

[00:43:51] love

[00:43:51] your

[00:43:51] neighbor

[00:43:52] you'd

[00:43:52] never

[00:43:52] steal

[00:43:52] from

[00:43:53] them

[00:43:53] if

[00:43:53] you

[00:43:53] love

[00:43:54] your

[00:43:54] neighbor

[00:43:54] you'd

[00:43:54] never

[00:43:55] bear

[00:43:56] false

[00:43:57] witness

[00:43:57] against

[00:43:57] them

[00:43:58] or

[00:43:58] commit

[00:43:58] adultery

[00:43:58] or

[00:43:59] okay

[00:43:59] and so

[00:44:00] the

[00:44:00] two

[00:44:00] great

[00:44:01] commandments

[00:44:01] of that

[00:44:01] God

[00:44:02] gives us

[00:44:02] two

[00:44:02] guidelines

[00:44:03] and if

[00:44:03] you keep

[00:44:04] those

[00:44:04] two

[00:44:04] guidelines

[00:44:05] man

[00:44:06] just imagine

[00:44:06] if we were

[00:44:07] all self-government

[00:44:07] enough to keep

[00:44:08] those two

[00:44:08] guidelines

[00:44:09] we wouldn't

[00:44:09] need any

[00:44:09] other

[00:44:10] rules

[00:44:11] that's

[00:44:12] for sure

[00:44:12] Sam

[00:44:12] wow

[00:44:16] well

[00:44:16] the

[00:44:17] but it makes

[00:44:17] the point

[00:44:18] we need to

[00:44:18] make America

[00:44:19] states again

[00:44:19] because we

[00:44:19] need the

[00:44:20] checks and

[00:44:20] balances

[00:44:20] that the

[00:44:21] states

[00:44:21] provide

[00:44:21] we do

[00:44:22] have

[00:44:22] 50

[00:44:22] republics

[00:44:23] ladies and

[00:44:23] gentlemen

[00:44:24] we must

[00:44:24] not forget

[00:44:25] that reality

[00:44:26] writes the

[00:44:26] new

[00:44:26] American

[00:44:27] and boy

[00:44:27] are they

[00:44:27] spot on

[00:44:28] lol

[00:44:28] yeah

[00:44:29] and if

[00:44:29] you aren't

[00:44:29] subscribing

[00:44:30] to the

[00:44:30] new

[00:44:31] American

[00:44:31] magazine

[00:44:31] I

[00:44:32] urgently

[00:44:32] and

[00:44:34] adamantly

[00:44:34] suggest

[00:44:35] that you

[00:44:35] do

[00:44:35] it's

[00:44:36] very

[00:44:36] reasonable

[00:44:37] it's

[00:44:38] like

[00:44:38] for less

[00:44:38] than 100

[00:44:39] bucks

[00:44:39] a year

[00:44:39] you get

[00:44:39] this

[00:44:40] twice a

[00:44:40] month

[00:44:41] a great

[00:44:42] magazine

[00:44:42] you learn

[00:44:43] constitutional

[00:44:44] principles

[00:44:45] you also

[00:44:45] learn

[00:44:45] history

[00:44:46] I always

[00:44:46] have an

[00:44:47] article

[00:44:47] in here

[00:44:47] about

[00:44:48] some

[00:44:49] historical

[00:44:50] event

[00:44:51] or

[00:44:52] history

[00:44:53] that we

[00:44:54] need to

[00:44:54] understand

[00:44:54] the one

[00:44:55] in this

[00:44:56] one

[00:44:56] was about

[00:44:57] the great

[00:44:57] emancipation

[00:44:58] in this

[00:44:59] edition

[00:44:59] October 14th

[00:45:00] edition

[00:45:00] was about

[00:45:02] the great

[00:45:02] emancipation

[00:45:03] right

[00:45:04] and how

[00:45:05] the founding

[00:45:05] fathers

[00:45:06] set

[00:45:07] into

[00:45:07] motion

[00:45:08] the

[00:45:08] elimination

[00:45:09] of

[00:45:09] slavery

[00:45:10] nobody

[00:45:10] has

[00:45:11] taught

[00:45:11] that

[00:45:11] in

[00:45:11] today's

[00:45:12] school

[00:45:12] Sam

[00:45:12] everybody

[00:45:13] believes

[00:45:13] that

[00:45:13] the founding

[00:45:14] fathers

[00:45:14] are old

[00:45:15] white

[00:45:15] guys

[00:45:16] who

[00:45:16] loved

[00:45:16] owning

[00:45:17] slaves

[00:45:18] and

[00:45:19] imposing

[00:45:20] their own

[00:45:21] tyranny

[00:45:21] upon

[00:45:22] these

[00:45:22] slaves

[00:45:23] that's

[00:45:23] not

[00:45:23] true

[00:45:24] and

[00:45:25] this

[00:45:25] article

[00:45:25] in

[00:45:26] the

[00:45:26] American

[00:45:26] talks

[00:45:27] about

[00:45:27] that

[00:45:27] so

[00:45:27] it's

[00:45:27] just

[00:45:28] a

[00:45:28] sampling

[00:45:28] I'm

[00:45:28] just

[00:45:35] more

[00:45:35] the

[00:45:36] new

[00:45:36] American

[00:45:36] dot

[00:45:36] com

[00:45:37] check

[00:45:37] it

[00:45:37] out

[00:45:37] the

[00:45:38] new

[00:45:38] American

[00:45:38] dot

[00:45:38] com

[00:45:39] one of

[00:45:39] the

[00:45:39] best

[00:45:39] magazines

[00:45:39] on the

[00:45:40] planet

[00:45:40] right

[00:45:40] now

[00:45:41] when it

[00:45:41] comes to

[00:45:41] understanding

[00:45:42] the proper

[00:45:42] role of

[00:45:43] limited

[00:45:43] constitutional

[00:45:44] government

[00:45:44] and

[00:45:45] education

[00:45:45] and training

[00:45:46] and guidance

[00:45:46] towards helping

[00:45:47] that become

[00:45:47] a reality

[00:45:48] they do

[00:45:49] phenomenal work

[00:45:50] over there

[00:45:50] and this

[00:45:50] article

[00:45:51] is just

[00:45:51] proof

[00:45:51] positive

[00:45:52] now you

[00:45:52] went to an

[00:45:53] incredible

[00:45:53] meeting

[00:45:53] Friday night

[00:45:54] right

[00:45:54] it was

[00:45:55] the

[00:45:55] Highland

[00:45:55] meeting

[00:45:56] held in

[00:45:56] Highland

[00:45:56] Utah

[00:45:57] our guest

[00:45:57] speaker

[00:45:58] was a

[00:45:59] young

[00:45:59] lady

[00:46:00] who

[00:46:00] described

[00:46:01] life in

[00:46:01] communist

[00:46:02] Cuba

[00:46:03] and what

[00:46:04] a refreshing

[00:46:04] change

[00:46:05] it was

[00:46:05] for her

[00:46:06] family

[00:46:06] when they

[00:46:07] left

[00:46:07] Cuba

[00:46:07] went to

[00:46:08] Spain

[00:46:09] and

[00:46:09] thereafter

[00:46:10] came to

[00:46:10] the United

[00:46:11] States

[00:46:11] Sam

[00:46:12] her name

[00:46:13] is

[00:46:13] Gabriella

[00:46:13] and she

[00:46:14] is

[00:46:15] a

[00:46:15] delightful

[00:46:16] person

[00:46:16] you would

[00:46:17] never have

[00:46:18] known her

[00:46:18] background

[00:46:18] by looking

[00:46:19] at her

[00:46:19] she lived

[00:46:21] in Havana

[00:46:21] Cuba

[00:46:21] for 18

[00:46:22] years

[00:46:23] with her

[00:46:23] family

[00:46:24] she grew

[00:46:24] up there

[00:46:25] basically

[00:46:26] before her

[00:46:27] family was

[00:46:27] allowed to

[00:46:28] leave Cuba

[00:46:28] they were

[00:46:29] able to

[00:46:29] leave

[00:46:29] because

[00:46:30] they somehow

[00:46:32] were able

[00:46:32] to become

[00:46:32] citizens

[00:46:33] of Spain

[00:46:34] due to

[00:46:35] their

[00:46:35] Spanish

[00:46:36] ancestry

[00:46:37] like

[00:46:37] her

[00:46:38] grandma

[00:46:38] and grandpa

[00:46:39] were both

[00:46:39] from Spain

[00:46:41] or lived

[00:46:41] in Spain

[00:46:42] or something

[00:46:42] so they

[00:46:43] were able

[00:46:43] to become

[00:46:44] citizens

[00:46:44] of Spain

[00:46:45] and then

[00:46:46] for some

[00:46:46] reason

[00:46:47] Cuba

[00:46:47] let them

[00:46:48] go

[00:46:48] they let

[00:46:48] them

[00:46:49] out

[00:46:49] they

[00:46:49] couldn't

[00:46:50] leave

[00:46:50] if they

[00:46:51] were citizens

[00:46:51] of Cuba

[00:46:52] but because

[00:46:52] they were

[00:46:52] citizens

[00:46:53] of Spain

[00:46:53] they were

[00:46:53] able to

[00:46:54] leave

[00:46:54] and she

[00:46:55] said

[00:46:55] that

[00:46:55] she

[00:46:56] was

[00:46:56] very

[00:46:56] skinny

[00:46:57] you know

[00:46:57] when she

[00:46:58] left Cuba

[00:46:58] they were

[00:46:59] just skin

[00:46:59] and bones

[00:47:00] you know

[00:47:01] like some

[00:47:01] of these

[00:47:01] pictures

[00:47:02] you see

[00:47:02] of holocaust

[00:47:03] victims

[00:47:03] right

[00:47:04] I mean

[00:47:04] that was

[00:47:05] basically

[00:47:05] their

[00:47:06] description

[00:47:06] of herself

[00:47:11] we're going

[00:47:12] to get

[00:47:12] all back

[00:47:13] really quick

[00:47:14] but her

[00:47:15] presentation

[00:47:16] was so

[00:47:16] captivating

[00:47:18] and her

[00:47:19] personal

[00:47:19] person so

[00:47:20] charming

[00:47:21] that they're

[00:47:22] going to have

[00:47:22] her back

[00:47:23] to speak

[00:47:23] again as

[00:47:24] well

[00:47:24] ladies and

[00:47:25] gentlemen

[00:47:25] at the

[00:47:27] Highland

[00:47:28] meeting

[00:47:29] meeting

[00:47:29] it's so

[00:47:30] important

[00:47:30] she did

[00:47:31] such a

[00:47:31] great job

[00:47:32] and she

[00:47:32] really

[00:47:32] highlights

[00:47:33] her

[00:47:33] experiences

[00:47:34] in Cuba

[00:47:36] she's

[00:47:37] passionate

[00:47:37] about

[00:47:38] warning

[00:47:38] especially

[00:47:39] the young

[00:47:40] people

[00:47:41] in America

[00:47:42] about the

[00:47:42] evils of

[00:47:43] communism

[00:47:43] and socialism

[00:47:44] and the

[00:47:45] life that she

[00:47:46] had to lead

[00:47:46] in Cuba

[00:47:47] she's

[00:47:48] raising a

[00:47:49] warning voice

[00:47:50] about the

[00:47:50] evils of

[00:47:50] Marxism

[00:47:51] and all

[00:47:52] these quote

[00:47:52] isms

[00:47:53] whenever

[00:47:53] there's an

[00:47:53] ism it

[00:47:54] isn't good

[00:47:54] ladies and

[00:47:55] gentlemen

[00:47:55] she's a

[00:47:56] voice that

[00:47:57] our young

[00:47:57] people in

[00:47:57] America need

[00:47:58] to hear

[00:47:59] lol are you

[00:47:59] back

[00:48:02] all right

[00:48:02] we'll go

[00:48:03] ahead and

[00:48:03] keep working

[00:48:03] on getting

[00:48:04] lol back

[00:48:04] here

[00:48:06] but really

[00:48:06] she highlights

[00:48:08] her life

[00:48:08] in communist

[00:48:09] Cuba

[00:48:09] and talks

[00:48:10] about how

[00:48:10] they didn't

[00:48:10] have anything

[00:48:11] and it was

[00:48:11] just a force

[00:48:13] it was evil

[00:48:14] it was difficult

[00:48:15] it was hard

[00:48:17] and when they

[00:48:18] went to Spain

[00:48:18] it was much

[00:48:19] better but she

[00:48:19] still saw some

[00:48:20] of the evils

[00:48:20] in Spain

[00:48:21] and she came

[00:48:21] to America

[00:48:22] and thought

[00:48:22] America was

[00:48:23] wonderful

[00:48:23] she got an

[00:48:24] education up

[00:48:25] at BYU

[00:48:25] or I

[00:48:26] I think

[00:48:27] it's Idaho

[00:48:29] and she

[00:48:29] talks about

[00:48:30] many of the

[00:48:30] regulations

[00:48:31] and controls

[00:48:31] that she

[00:48:32] experienced

[00:48:32] in Cuba

[00:48:33] less so

[00:48:33] in Spain

[00:48:34] less so

[00:48:35] in the United

[00:48:35] States

[00:48:35] are starting

[00:48:36] to come

[00:48:36] to a theater

[00:48:37] near us

[00:48:37] and so

[00:48:38] she says

[00:48:39] many of the

[00:48:39] regulations

[00:48:40] and controls

[00:48:40] that resemble

[00:48:42] the regulations

[00:48:43] and control

[00:48:44] that they had

[00:48:44] in well

[00:48:47] they're being

[00:48:47] put in place

[00:48:48] in Utah

[00:48:50] and all

[00:48:51] around the

[00:48:51] United States

[00:48:53] okay

[00:48:54] she's warning

[00:48:55] us not to

[00:48:55] tolerate those

[00:48:56] things

[00:48:56] we need

[00:48:56] to heed

[00:48:57] her warnings

[00:48:59] really poignant

[00:48:59] testimony

[00:49:00] about the

[00:49:01] evils of

[00:49:01] communism

[00:49:02] and a lot

[00:49:02] of people

[00:49:02] speak out

[00:49:03] about this

[00:49:03] but we

[00:49:04] don't

[00:49:04] oftentimes

[00:49:05] listen

[00:49:05] we want

[00:49:06] to dismiss

[00:49:06] this

[00:49:06] as if

[00:49:07] it's not

[00:49:07] important

[00:49:07] or oh

[00:49:08] it's

[00:49:09] it's

[00:49:09] it's not

[00:49:09] really

[00:49:10] that close

[00:49:11] to us

[00:49:11] or you

[00:49:12] know

[00:49:12] we don't

[00:49:12] really have

[00:49:13] to worry

[00:49:13] about it

[00:49:13] or someone's

[00:49:14] just being

[00:49:14] kind of

[00:49:15] extreme

[00:49:15] or you

[00:49:16] know

[00:49:16] they act

[00:49:17] like the

[00:49:17] sky

[00:49:17] is

[00:49:26] really

[00:49:26] see

[00:49:26] an

[00:49:27] understanding

[00:49:28] that you

[00:49:29] don't get

[00:49:29] when most

[00:49:30] people speak

[00:49:31] about it

[00:49:32] yeah

[00:49:33] that Gabrielle

[00:49:34] just opened

[00:49:34] our eyes

[00:49:35] I mean

[00:49:35] I have

[00:49:35] heard

[00:49:36] stories

[00:49:36] of

[00:49:37] you know

[00:49:37] communist

[00:49:38] China

[00:49:38] I've heard

[00:49:39] stories

[00:49:40] about Germany

[00:49:40] and the

[00:49:41] Nazi

[00:49:41] regime

[00:49:41] but to hear

[00:49:42] it fresh

[00:49:43] since the

[00:49:44] revolution

[00:49:44] of 1959

[00:49:47] Cuba

[00:49:47] and people

[00:49:48] who live

[00:49:48] in Cuba

[00:49:49] have had

[00:49:49] no freedom

[00:49:50] I mean

[00:49:50] it was

[00:49:51] illegal

[00:49:51] to even

[00:49:52] slaughter

[00:49:52] a cow

[00:49:53] for your

[00:49:54] starving

[00:49:54] family

[00:49:55] if you

[00:49:55] owned a

[00:49:55] cow

[00:49:55] and slaughtered

[00:49:56] it for

[00:49:56] food

[00:49:57] you've

[00:49:57] got

[00:49:57] several

[00:49:57] years

[00:49:58] in prison

[00:49:58] for your

[00:49:59] crime

[00:49:59] I mean

[00:50:00] what she

[00:50:00] described

[00:50:01] Sam was

[00:50:01] horrendous

[00:50:03] and so

[00:50:04] they got,

[00:50:06] their food

[00:50:07] was rationed

[00:50:07] right the

[00:50:08] children

[00:50:09] would go

[00:50:09] to school

[00:50:09] from early

[00:50:10] in the

[00:50:10] morning to

[00:50:11] late

[00:50:11] afternoon or

[00:50:12] early

[00:50:12] evening they

[00:50:12] got

[00:50:13] one meal

[00:50:13] at school

[00:50:14] it was

[00:50:15] mostly rice

[00:50:15] and

[00:50:16] a

[00:50:16] little water that

[00:50:17] was

[00:50:17] it store

[00:50:18] shells

[00:50:18] were

[00:50:18] bare

[00:50:19] they

[00:50:19] got

[00:50:19] rationed

[00:50:20] their

[00:50:20] food

[00:50:21] they

[00:50:21] got

[00:50:21] a

[00:50:21] chunk

[00:50:22] of

[00:50:23] stale

[00:50:24] bread

[00:50:24] they

[00:50:24] got

[00:50:25] some

[00:50:25] maybe

[00:50:26] some

[00:50:26] rice

[00:50:27] that

[00:50:28] was

[00:50:28] the

[00:50:28] ration

[00:50:28] day

[00:50:29] after

[00:50:30] day

[00:50:30] year

[00:50:30] after

[00:50:30] year

[00:50:31] Sam

[00:50:31] the

[00:50:32] Cubans

[00:50:32] could not

[00:50:33] even go

[00:50:33] fishing

[00:50:33] in the

[00:50:34] ocean

[00:50:34] for

[00:50:34] food

[00:50:35] they

[00:50:35] could

[00:50:35] not

[00:50:36] grow

[00:50:37] gardens

[00:50:37] openly

[00:50:38] they

[00:50:39] could

[00:50:39] raise

[00:50:39] a

[00:50:39] cow

[00:50:40] or a

[00:50:40] pig

[00:50:40] so long

[00:50:41] as the

[00:50:41] proceeds

[00:50:41] of the

[00:50:42] animal

[00:50:42] went to

[00:50:42] the

[00:50:43] state

[00:50:43] so

[00:50:44] man

[00:50:44] I mean

[00:50:45] she said

[00:50:45] they didn't

[00:50:46] even have

[00:50:46] toilet

[00:50:46] paper

[00:50:47] she grew

[00:50:47] up in

[00:50:48] Havana

[00:50:48] and most

[00:50:49] of the

[00:50:49] time they

[00:50:50] did not

[00:50:50] even have

[00:50:51] toilet

[00:50:51] paper

[00:50:51] unless her

[00:50:52] father

[00:50:53] was

[00:50:53] successfully

[00:50:54] enabled to

[00:50:55] steal

[00:50:56] some from

[00:50:56] his place

[00:50:57] of

[00:50:57] employment

[00:50:58] I mean

[00:50:58] it was

[00:50:59] bad

[00:50:59] just really

[00:51:00] really bad

[00:51:01] Sam

[00:51:01] and so

[00:51:02] Gabriella

[00:51:03] described

[00:51:03] her life

[00:51:04] and then

[00:51:06] when they

[00:51:07] got to

[00:51:07] Spain

[00:51:08] she

[00:51:08] actually

[00:51:09] tasted

[00:51:09] her

[00:51:09] first

[00:51:10] hamburger

[00:51:10] at

[00:51:10] McDonald's

[00:51:11] she

[00:51:11] actually

[00:51:12] wondered

[00:51:12] how to

[00:51:13] get

[00:51:13] into

[00:51:13] a

[00:51:13] supermarket

[00:51:14] because

[00:51:14] the

[00:51:15] supermarket

[00:51:15] had

[00:51:15] automatic

[00:51:16] doors

[00:51:16] that would

[00:51:17] open

[00:51:17] when she

[00:51:18] got

[00:51:18] close

[00:51:19] and she

[00:51:19] was afraid

[00:51:19] to go

[00:51:20] in

[00:51:20] because

[00:51:20] they

[00:51:21] might

[00:51:21] close

[00:51:22] and never

[00:51:22] open

[00:51:23] up

[00:51:23] and let

[00:51:23] her

[00:51:23] out

[00:51:23] again

[00:51:24] Sam

[00:51:25] and

[00:51:27] you

[00:51:27] know

[00:51:27] and

[00:51:29] she

[00:51:29] noticed

[00:51:30] the

[00:51:30] woman's

[00:51:30] cart

[00:51:30] was

[00:51:31] full

[00:51:31] of food

[00:51:31] in the

[00:51:32] supermarket

[00:51:32] and she

[00:51:32] told her

[00:51:33] dad

[00:51:33] that

[00:51:33] person

[00:51:34] must

[00:51:34] be

[00:51:34] very

[00:51:34] rich

[00:51:35] and

[00:51:36] of

[00:51:37] course

[00:51:37] her

[00:51:37] dad

[00:51:37] explained

[00:51:38] to her

[00:51:38] well

[00:51:39] no

[00:51:39] everybody

[00:51:39] can

[00:51:40] buy

[00:51:40] food

[00:51:41] here

[00:51:41] food

[00:51:41] is

[00:51:41] not

[00:51:42] that

[00:51:42] expensive

[00:51:42] so

[00:51:43] anyway

[00:51:44] family

[00:51:44] ended up

[00:51:46] leaving

[00:51:46] Spain

[00:51:46] after a

[00:51:47] while

[00:51:47] moved

[00:51:47] to

[00:51:47] Florida

[00:51:48] Gabriella

[00:51:49] herself

[00:51:49] went

[00:51:50] to

[00:51:50] school

[00:51:50] obtained

[00:51:51] a

[00:51:51] graduate

[00:51:51] degree

[00:51:52] in

[00:51:52] Rexford

[00:51:52] Idaho

[00:51:53] and

[00:51:54] Sam

[00:51:54] she

[00:51:54] is

[00:51:54] so

[00:51:55] passionate

[00:51:55] about

[00:51:55] warning

[00:51:56] people

[00:51:56] especially

[00:51:57] the

[00:51:57] young

[00:51:57] people

[00:51:58] of

[00:51:58] America

[00:51:58] about

[00:51:59] the

[00:51:59] evils

[00:52:00] of

[00:52:00] communism

[00:52:00] the

[00:52:01] evils

[00:52:01] of

[00:52:01] socialism

[00:52:02] and

[00:52:03] that's

[00:52:03] why I wanted to mention her experience here on the show Sam

[00:52:05] she is raising a voice of warning

[00:52:08] about

[00:52:08] you need to get her on the radio with us lol

[00:52:10] invite her as a guest

[00:52:12] yeah okay

[00:52:13] I'd be happy to do that because we want her back at the highland meeting

[00:52:16] early next year

[00:52:17] and we're going to publicize the meeting

[00:52:19] we're going to invite all of the youth that we know

[00:52:22] the young people

[00:52:22] the teenagers

[00:52:23] the college age students

[00:52:25] the young married

[00:52:26] and help

[00:52:28] you know let her

[00:52:29] set them straight

[00:52:30] on socialism

[00:52:31] because they're coming out of our high schools today Sam

[00:52:34] believing that socialism is good

[00:52:36] you know

[00:52:37] and it's

[00:52:37] it's

[00:52:38] you know

[00:52:38] they need to hear

[00:52:39] from somebody who's actually lived it

[00:52:42] lived communism

[00:52:43] in order for them to believe maybe that

[00:52:46] you know maybe socialism and communism is bad after all

[00:52:48] and I shouldn't

[00:52:50] you know

[00:52:50] look

[00:52:51] look to change

[00:52:52] our country

[00:52:53] into a socialist country

[00:52:54] so anyway Sam

[00:52:57] that was

[00:52:57] it was wonderful

[00:52:58] wonderful presentation

[00:52:59] you will be

[00:53:00] delighted to

[00:53:01] to speak with Gabriella

[00:53:02] I'll give her contact information

[00:53:04] and we can get her on the show

[00:53:06] many

[00:53:07] many of the

[00:53:08] and

[00:53:09] last

[00:53:09] last thing I'll say about

[00:53:10] she raised the warning voice

[00:53:12] and said

[00:53:12] look you guys

[00:53:13] a lot of the things that are happening in America today

[00:53:17] happened in Cuba

[00:53:18] after the revolution

[00:53:19] of 1959

[00:53:20] the regulations

[00:53:21] and the controls

[00:53:23] are ominously similar

[00:53:26] today

[00:53:26] the ones that are being put into place around us right now

[00:53:28] here in Utah

[00:53:29] and across America

[00:53:31] and she is warning us

[00:53:32] Sam

[00:53:33] she is warning us

[00:53:34] not to tolerate

[00:53:35] those controls

[00:53:36] and those regulations

[00:53:37] Sam

[00:53:40] well folks

[00:53:41] there's what's called a witness

[00:53:43] and a warning

[00:53:43] ladies and gentlemen

[00:53:44] and she's providing both

[00:53:45] I'll tell you that right now

[00:53:46] and we ought

[00:53:47] take heed

[00:53:48] and as Dr. Bradley

[00:53:49] and I focused on last hour

[00:53:50] and we'll let you have the last word on this Lowell

[00:53:52] we talked about God Almighty

[00:53:54] we need to turn to God

[00:53:55] and pray

[00:53:55] I don't care what the election outcome is

[00:53:57] necessarily per se

[00:53:58] and I hope it goes for the Donald

[00:54:00] but really

[00:54:01] the biggest difference

[00:54:02] that we can make

[00:54:03] is turn to God

[00:54:03] and repent

[00:54:04] and He'll heal our land

[00:54:05] and protect us

[00:54:05] God Almighty

[00:54:07] is the key to the exercise

[00:54:09] Lowell

[00:54:09] absolutely right Sam

[00:54:11] that is the key

[00:54:12] regardless of what happens around us

[00:54:14] let's maintain

[00:54:15] our belief in God

[00:54:17] our faith in God

[00:54:19] He is a God of miracles

[00:54:20] and that's one thing

[00:54:21] that Gabby said too

[00:54:22] she believed in God

[00:54:24] because one of her grandmothers

[00:54:25] was Catholic

[00:54:26] and so you let that belief

[00:54:28] stay strong in her heart

[00:54:30] and look how it turned out

[00:54:32] how life has turned out

[00:54:33] for her Sam

[00:54:33] God bless you all

[00:54:34] thanks for your great work sir

[00:54:37] you're welcome Sam

[00:54:38] good to be with you

[00:54:39] campaignforliberty.org

[00:54:40] always doing a phenomenal job

[00:54:41] Young Americans for Liberty as well

[00:54:43] John Burt Society

[00:54:44] check it all out

[00:54:44] and God save the republic