Radio Show Hour 2 – 06/09/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard-hitting news the networks refuse to use and no doubt continues now. All kinds of things going on. It's just amazing what happens in the country. I don't even know where to start. This is the broadcast for June 9th, 2025.

[00:00:39] 2025, I should say in the year of our Lord, 2025, right? Amen to that. We need the Lord. That's the problem in America today. We don't seem to turn to the Lord enough. If we would, we could have solutions galore. I'll tell you that right now, ladies and gentlemen. But good news, Lowell Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org with me. Welcome back to the broadcast, sir. It's been a long time, and thanks for your patience. Uh-oh, we're going to have to try to get Lowell back. I don't know what happened with that.

[00:01:10] Liz, if you could work on that, that would be great. In the meantime, at the next hour, great, great hour, though. We talked about his Q&As on the Constitution, weekly seminars every Thursday evening online. And the Q&A webinars are available at 7 p.m. Mountain Time, 9 Eastern. If you go to freedomsrisingsun.com, you can sign up and be added to his email list. He'll fire you off an invite to the webinar.

[00:01:36] And that's pretty cool because people ask questions and get answers and learn about the Constitution and the proper role of limited government, about the role of Americans in our society. What can we do? How do we preserve the nation? How do we restore the republic? How do we, you know, stand for the rule of law and understand checks and balances? And, you know, great, great, great stuff.

[00:01:56] And we talked about the Supreme Court tosses Mexico's $10 billion lawsuit claiming U.S. gunmakers have, well, they say that the U.S. gunmakers have fueled cartel violence. But it's not really true. Anyway, we talked about that with a good doctor. We talked about the ex-Biden press secretary, Jean Pierre, switches from Democrat to Independent.

[00:02:21] She's trying to save her own bacon and not get caught in the aggressive action, hopefully, by Cash Patel and Pam Bondi and others. Trump's big, beautiful bill turns out to be a boondoggle. Physical disaster or smart strategy is what I ask in my video. Elon Musk calls it a disgusting abomination. I mean, everybody's talking about that. Go to LibertyRoundTable.com to see my video on that. We also talked about the U.S. Army plans to flood its forces with drones every division by 2026.

[00:02:51] U.S. Army plans $36 billion overhaul, they say, is the largest in the last 50 years. The interesting thing to me about that is I thought we weren't supposed to have a standing army. Trump administration signals it will slash funds for the long-planned rail project in California. Trump orders the military and justice officials to quell riots in L.A. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. We had a great hour, covered a lot of good information.

[00:03:20] It finished with Cash Patel, I guess, got swatted at his home. He told the story about that on Joe Rogan. Back to LowellNelsonCampaignForLiberty.org. Welcome to the show, sir. Well, thank you, Sam. It's good to be back with you. Can you hear me okay now? Yes, you're sounding perfect now, my friend. Thank you so much. There's so much going on. Do you want to comment on what's going on really quick in L.A.? I don't have any additional intel on L.A.

[00:03:49] I focus, I guess, a little bit more on the drone attack deep in the Russian territory and the various topics related to that. So, yeah, and part of the big, beautiful bill, I want to talk about that a little bit more. But, yeah, I think it's crazy for these guys to play political games with defunding the police when chaos is breaking out everywhere.

[00:04:15] I think police can do a lot to quell those types of activities. Amen to that, ladies and gentlemen. You know, here's the problem. What they want you to do, and I wanted to cover enough of the L.A. stuff. We did that with Dr. Scott Bradley last hour a little bit. But what I don't want to do, folks, is just be swept into their rumor slash media mill where everything they say and do you've got to focus on to the point where everything else that's critical is left untouched.

[00:04:45] That's kind of part of the Communist Manifesto. Overwhelm us with so much we can't deal with what's really true or what needs to be focused on. So Ron Paul was right as the headline campaign for liberty executive John McCardell highlights this. And this is really important because if we get swept up in everything that they have in the media, we won't be able to focus on some of these critical, critical points.

[00:05:12] And this is an incredible situation that John's bringing to discuss because we need to really realize that think how many things we can avoid if we just pay attention to people who end up being right. Yeah, you're exactly right, Sam. And here's another classical distraction. You know, the bill is really what we should be focusing on. And instead, the news media, they take this fight that broke out between Elon Musk.

[00:05:40] It's a disagreement between Elon Musk and President Trump. That's what they're focusing on. But that's a distraction. What we really ought to be worrying about is this massive increase in deficit that this big, beautiful bill will bring on. So Elon Musk, he looked at his bill. And, of course, he looked at the work that Doge had done and recommended to Congress. Of course, nothing that Doge did made a difference.

[00:06:08] It takes Congress because Congress has the purse strings. Congress is the one that has to make the changes. They have to put into effect the cuts that Doge recommends. Well, you know, they're not doing that. Elon is upset with this big, beautiful bill. He says you can't have big and beautiful. It's got to be a slim, beautiful bill, meaning, you know, we need to quit spending so much money. And then it could be a beautiful bill.

[00:06:37] And as you know, Sam, I think this is an ugly bill. Obviously, I follow the state legislation here in Utah fairly closely. And, of course, I have my list of good bills. I have my list of bad bills. And then, of course, I have a list of ugly bills. And that's a category of bill that is both good and bad, right? It's kind of a mixture of good and bad.

[00:07:03] And that's why I call it ugly because, you know, you just can't bring yourself to vote for it because it's got so much bad inside of it, even though it does have some good. And that's what this big, beautiful bill has. It has some good, but it has a lot of bad. And that's why it's an ugly bill. It's not a beautiful bill. And so that's the real problem.

[00:07:31] And, well, that's why, in my mind, Green basically changed her position. She voted for it, which she shouldn't have. But she then said, hey, wait a minute. I didn't know these provisions were in it. And then a lot of us are kind of saying, well, you should have read it. But the problem is when a bill is too big to read, you should vote no on principle every time and say, look, this is too big. I can't personally read it. I'm not going to rely on my 10 staffers to take a paragraph each and look at it or whatever. We want thin, clean, simple up-and-down bills where not only the congressmen and senators can know what they're voting for,

[00:08:01] but the people can understand the bill and let their representatives know. Right now, though, I can say vote against the bill, but that's all I can say. The bill is so complex. It's over 1,000 pages. It's so huge I couldn't read it. And even if you say, Sam, why don't you sit down and read it? You can't, Lowell. What happens is they say we're going to replace this section of this code with this section. And unless you go look up every code reference and everything else, you don't understand what it's changing or saying exactly in the first. But you can't really read these bills these days. It's not possible. You're exactly right.

[00:08:31] And Representative Thomas Massey nailed this really on the head last week when he pointed out the insanity of how we pass these bills. He said, quote, major provisions of the big, beautiful bill are still being negotiated and written. And yet we're being told we'll vote on it today. And he's right. I'm continuing the quote here.

[00:08:54] For years, massive spending bills have been bundled into omnibus packages with thousands of pages, no time to read, and no line item veto to cut the junk. Turns out Republicans only hate omnibus when the other guys are doing it. And so Massey reminds us here, folks, that if House leadership would simply pass separate bills, then the president could veto individual pieces of bad legislation, could keep the good, and he could avoid the government shutdown.

[00:09:23] You know, all the while while actually trimming the fat. And so here's a post that Thomas Massey put on X here on May 29th. He said this, SCOTUS, meaning the Supreme Court of the United States, ruled years ago that line item veto is unconstitutional.

[00:09:43] But if Speaker Johnson brings separate spending bills to the floor instead of an omnibus continuing resolution, Trump can veto any of them individually. And this would give Trump flexibility without shutdown scare. And the other thing is that congressmen in the House and Senate could go to their constituents and say, look, here's a single up-down bill. This is why I'm for it or this is why I'm against it.

[00:10:09] And it could be clear and easily understood by the American people and by their representatives. But when you get these big bills, you know, Massey votes no, just for instance. And then everybody's like, by golly, that's horrible. We're going to decrease this. We're going to do the tax break. Man, Massey's against the tax break, isn't he? Well, no, see, that's a big old lie. Okay? Because it's not a straight up and down clear bill on concepts or ideas. We need single issue. Skip the break. Go ahead. We need single issue bills here so that they can do that.

[00:10:38] Right now, though, I mean, Massey can lay it out the best he can. But it's so vague for people that don't understand because they're hearing so much propaganda from both sides. And it's so big nobody really knows. So Massey's spot on on this. We've got to have small, I call them single item or single issue bills. Right, Sam. And you know this bill passed the U.S. House by a single vote. The vote was 215 to 214.

[00:11:06] Just a single vote, Sam. Guess how Utah's four representatives voted. I'm sure all the clowns betrayed us all, including Mike Kennedy, which I'm really disappointed about. Yeah, exactly right. And I'm glad to... Because I've sat at dinner tables with Kennedy, and he knows better, Lowell. Yeah, yeah. Well, we need to continue to push on him. I still believe that he can be taught to listen to us.

[00:11:35] You know, but he said going into Congress, he says, I'm not going to vote for continuing resolutions. I'm not going to vote for deficit spending. I'm not going to vote for raising the debt ceiling. And so, but he's already done it, you know. And so, we need to take him to task on that. And we'll have an opportunity to do so this Saturday, this coming Saturday. He's going to attend a little constituent, kind of like a town hall.

[00:12:03] It's going to be in the park at midday here on June 14th. I guess that's Flag Day. We're celebrating Flag Day. And so, at Pheasant Hollow Park in Highland, if you're anywhere near Utah County and want to visit with Mike Kennedy about this, which I intended to go there and talk to him, then please join me there. You know, and I listened to a video from Celeste Malloy, six and a half minutes long,

[00:12:30] where she talked about all the good things in this big, beautiful bill. And I think she's misled, too. I mean, yeah, there's some good things, right, in it, but there's so much bad that you just can't bring yourself to vote for it. I'm going to say this to Celeste. First, you give me a list of the good things, and I want a single bill on each one of them. And I'll vote yes. Sooner, the better. Let's go. If they're good, why not put them on a single bill? And why not then highlight who's against it and why every time?

[00:13:00] Yeah. See, they can do that, but they don't. Well, and we need to pound that principle over and over again with our reps. And it's my understanding, according to what Massey said, that the House Speaker is the one that puts all these bills together in an omnibus package. That's right. Shame on Johnson. Yeah. And so we need representatives to push back against him for doing that. We need separate bills.

[00:13:27] And, you know, that's exactly what we need to push for. In the words of Conor Boyack... Before you go to Conor Boyack, the sad part about this in my mind here is this. They've had five months. They could have passed dozens of individual item bills by now. And it wouldn't even be up against the wall with this crisis, right? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And they're getting close to the September deadline, right, when they said they'd have this all worked out. But it sure doesn't look to me like it's getting worked out.

[00:13:57] So Conor Boyack, author of the Tuttle Twins book series, said this in an email over the weekend. And, quote, at first glance, this bill looks like a glittering package of tax relief for the little guy. Permanent extensions of the 2017 tax cuts, no taxes on tips and overtime, and a higher SALT deduction cap. For working families, those are real benefits.

[00:14:22] But scratch the surface and you'll find the same old Washington disease lurking underneath. Reckless spending, bloated government programs, and a complete disregard for the debt we are passing on to our children. To be clear, this is not a Doge-inspired cost-cutting bill. It's a spending bill.

[00:14:43] Even though it does trim some social programs like Medicaid and SNAP through stricter eligibility, the Congressional Budget Office estimates the bill will add up to $5 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. Right, the next 10 years. The worst part is that this isn't just numbers on a spreadsheet.

[00:15:04] It's a direct hit on your family's future purchasing power, your kids' opportunities, and the stability of the entire economy for a very long time. End of quote. So, yeah, I mean, we need people to cut through the chase, cut through the fog, and understand the badness in these bills. Or even if they don't, to vote against it because they don't have time to understand it.

[00:15:33] You know, when they're getting told it is big and beautiful, I mean, that's an oxymoronic statement because you can't have both big and beautiful. You can have slim and trim and beautiful, but you can't have big and beautiful. Well, there's the rub. Now, Ron Paul, in my opinion, gave the best quote of all related to this, Lowell. Yeah, yeah, he really does. Now, let's see him. It says this. Go ahead, yeah.

[00:16:03] Well, yeah, he said that, well, you're talking about the 1%. And decade after decade, the Republicans disappoint us. They can control all levers of government, and they still disappoint. And that's really the takeaway from this, in my opinion, Lowell. That's the bottom line. The Republicans want to blame the Democrats. The Democrats want to blame the Republicans. The Republicans get power. Promise, promise, promise, promise.

[00:16:32] And then they, on the surface, deliver on a couple of promises, but betray us, stab us in the back, on the back end. And Ron's absolutely right. $1 trillion is added to the debt every 100 days. A trillion dollars. I can't even imagine that kind of money. But in my opinion, Ron nails it with that quote, though. We cannot just think because they're Republican that it's okay. Donald Trump's wrong on this. Musk is right. Rand Paul is right.

[00:17:01] Ron Paul is right. We're right. Thomas Massey's right. Green is right to change her vote and say when it comes back around, I'm going to vote against it. I pray she does. We need more and more people to stand up and realize this is an absolute boondoggle scandal. It is. And if you want to take pieces of it that are good and tell me they're good, then fine. Break them out and vote on them. Let's go. Why didn't we do that January 3rd or 4th or whenever they started? Why do we waste all this time? Okay. And that's the proof.

[00:17:30] The Republicans are going to fail just like they did in the 96 Republican Revolution that took place. You know, it was a big failure, too. They had a contract with America. It turned out to be a contract on America's head. It was a disaster. And they're following the same track. And Elon Musk is right to stand against this. Yeah, totally right. And so let's go to another quote from Ron Paul who is so right as rain on this issue. He mentioned it in a column that he posted last Monday, Sam.

[00:18:00] Quote, President Trump has dubbed this the big, beautiful bill. The bill also has new tax cuts, including repeating federal taxes on tips and overtime. The bill offsets the lost revenue from the cuts by making some cost-saving reforms in domestic welfare programs, most notably Medicaid and food stamps. However, it increases spending in other areas, most notably military spending.

[00:18:25] According to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, the big, beautiful bill would increase the national debt by at least $3.3 trillion over 10 years. This number is likely to rise because several moderate Republicans are threatening to vote against the bill unless the Medicaid and food stamp reforms are limited or dropped. The tax cuts are always worth supporting because they advance liberty and sound economics by ensuring the people have more and the government has less.

[00:18:54] However, tax cuts that are not combined with real spending cuts are simply delayed tax increases. This is because cutting taxes without cutting spending leads to more debt, which leads to higher taxes. These tax increases are likely to come from the Federal Reserve's monetization of debt, which weakens the dollar's purchasing power. This inflation tax benefits political and financial elites while hurting most Americans.

[00:19:21] The reason Republicans are finding it difficult to offset their tax plan in a way that is politically palatable is that they are following exactly the opposite of the politically smart path to cut spending. Instead of starting by cutting welfare for the poor, Republicans should have started by cutting welfare for the rich, particularly the military-industrial-congressional complex.

[00:19:47] Congress should be giving the people more tax cuts and offsetting them with deep cuts in military spending. Cutting spending wasted on a futile pursuit of a global empire is not just a fiscal necessity. It is also the best thing Congress can do to promote peace and prosperity. Congress should then begin phasing out welfare programs in a manner that does not harm those currently reliant on the programs.

[00:20:16] Congress should also rein in the welfare-warfare state's greater enabler by auditing and then ending the Federal Reserve. It should also repeal the 16th Amendment. These actions would free the people from 1913's great mistakes, fiat money, and income taxes. End of quote. That's a long quote I know, Sam, from Ron Paul.

[00:20:40] But I find that everything he says is so right on, correct, and salient, cogent. And he puts it in a few words. The cool part about it to me is it's super simple and clear, too. Like, everybody can understand that, right? Yeah. Everybody. No question. I'm going to print this quote up, and I'm going to take it to the Saturday meeting with Mike. I'm going to talk to him about, number one, Ron Paul's quote here, this long quote that I just read,

[00:21:10] plus the fact that those bills, they need to come out as separate bills, not as a single omnibus, you know, big, big package. Well, all I can tell you is this. You know what? When you have Trump attacking Musk, Trump attacking Rand Paul, everybody attacking Thomas Massey, everybody attacking virtually, you know, I mean, even Glenn Beck is saying this is disaster.

[00:21:35] Sam Bushman, you know, you can look at 20 different people where they stand on this bill and know what's right and wrong based on who you can trust. Campaign for Liberty is against it. Sam Bushman is against it. Now, that should tell you enough. Now, I'm not saying don't do your due diligence, but I am telling you that you can look at why would I be against the bill if it was good? What do I have to gain or lose? Nothing. What about you and Campaign for Liberty? They have nothing to lose or gain except to, you know, stand for their principles, right?

[00:22:04] Now that a trillion dollars is added to the debt every 100 days, if we don't reduce spending quickly, lull, I'm convinced we're going to be forced into it. Well, you know, and sometimes I find myself hoping that the dollar will die sooner than later because it would result in more peace through, you know, globally, I think. I mean, it would result in some chaos, certainly.

[00:22:29] But, you know, the U.S. empire grows simply because of the Federal Reserve and because of the strength of the dollar. You know, just think of what might happen if we didn't have the dollar so we couldn't print up money and create a thin air. We'd probably have to pull in our horns, right? We'd have to shrink our footprint on the global, on all the nations on the planet.

[00:22:56] And we'd probably end up intervening less in the foreign affairs of other countries. And that probably would be a really good thing. You know, I hate the chaos. Even Donald Trump said we could take the trillion dollar war spending and reduce it to a half a trillion easily. And I agree with him. Why don't we just start there? Why don't we just simply say military spending is a bill? How much should we spend? Here's the, you know, we could have one bill about military spending. Is it fine to spend a trillion?

[00:23:24] No, no, that's more than all nations together combined in the world. No, we're not going to spend that much. Okay, how much should we spend? How much can we reduce right here? See, this gives us the chance to discuss each individual bill. But now what we're saying is, oh, are you against military spending? Are you against the military? How dare you leave our troops in harm's way? It becomes that kind of a discussion. No, the real discussion is, hey, what in that trillion dollars are we spending and what's justified? We're not even supposed to have an army for more than two years at a time.

[00:23:53] No, you're exactly right. And Caitlin Johnstone has a column, which I did not put in the show notes, talking about the reason Donald Trump is not doing the right thing is because he's on the Epstein flight logs. He's being coerced, Sam. And some are saying that's why they're not releasing those like they had promised. And I don't know the truth there. Again, it's hard to break this down, but you can't ignore these things. When we come back, Lowell breaks it down.

[00:24:22] I want to talk about the Golden Dome because that's one of the big pieces of military spending, right? All right, hang tight. I'm Sam Bushman. We've got Lowell Nelson with me, CampaignForLiberty.org. Always doing a phenomenal job on your radio. Check out my short videos as well at LibertyRoundtable.com. Hang tight. Or in seconds, Lowell and Sam on your radio.

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[00:25:18] Police and National Guardsmen were hit with rocks, bottles, and other objects. Cars were burned. Major thoroughfares blocked amid a looting spree. All about turmoil, prompting President Trump to deploy the National Guard. In response to the unrest in California, the President said the deployment was necessary, and he's prepared to send in more troops. We're going to have troops everywhere. We're not going to let this happen to our country. We're not going to let our country be torn apart. California's Governor called the National Guard deployment unlawful.

[00:25:46] Meanwhile, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth wrote online that active-duty Marines were on high alert. Greg Clugston, Washington. And on Truth Social, the President vowing to, quote, liberate Los Angeles. Mr. Trump's budget and spending priorities taking center stage this week on Capitol Hill. As Senate committees continue to release their proposals for the House-passed reconciliation package this week, the House plans to vote on President Donald Trump's proposals to rescind foreign aid and other spending, including for public broadcasting.

[00:26:16] House Majority Leader Steve Scalise said in a statement, quote, The rescission's request sent to Congress by the Trump administration takes the federal government in a new direction, where we actually cut waste, fraud, and abuse, and hold agencies accountable to the American people. The House also takes up bills this week targeting local operations in Washington, D.C. Bernie Bennett in Washington. Coast Guard search underway after a plane, six people on board, crashed in the Pacific off San Diego.

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[00:30:13] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is Lowell Nelson. I'm riding shotgun this morning with Sam Bushman, your host here at Liberty Roundtable. We've been talking about the big, ugly bill.

[00:30:37] People have been liking to call it the big, beautiful bill, but there is no such thing as a big and beautiful bill. Hey, well, I'm calling it the big, bogus boondoggle, my friend. That big, bogus boondoggle bill is truly what it is. It has some good, but it has lots and lots of bad. And that really should be our focus.

[00:30:59] But I found it also interesting, Sam, that this tiff, this dispute between Musk and Trump, it turns out that Elon Musk is right as rain on this, and Trump is in the wrong. Elon Musk, he sent a series of tweets last week. I didn't put this in the show notes either, Sam, but this is really interesting.

[00:31:21] Elon Musk tweeted about Mike Johnson, right, Speaker Mike Johnson, because in 2018, February of 2018, right, that's just, what, seven years ago, Mike Johnson said, at some point, Congress has to stop this endless cycle of out-of-control deficit spending. And Elon Musk tweeted out that quote from seven years ago. Elon said, I super agree with this guy, right, Mike Johnson.

[00:31:51] And then he followed that up with- And maybe not years ago, Donald Trump would have said the same thing, though. Yeah, we'll get to that. Mike Johnson in 23, just two years ago, said the federal debt has just topped $31.4 trillion, and the Congressional Budget Office now estimates federal spending for fiscal year 2023 will be totaled $6.221 trillion, or more than $197,000 per second. And then he said, this is not sustainable, right?

[00:32:20] This is what Speaker Mike Johnson said, this is not sustainable. So Elon Musk tweeted, where is the Mike Johnson of 2023? Right? And so that's a good question. And then he recalled the words of Donald Trump himself, where Donald Trump in 23, in January of 23, said, I cannot believe the Republicans are extending the debt ceiling. I am a Republican, and I am embarrassed.

[00:32:48] And so Elon Musk had retweeted that and said, look at these wise words. And then he retweeted this one, too, where Donald Trump said back, he said, no member of Congress should be, I'm sorry, this is, that first one was 2013, this one was 2012. Donald Trump said, no member of Congress should be eligible for re-election if our country's budget is not balanced. Deficits not allowed.

[00:33:16] And Elon retweeted that one from Trump's feed from 2012. And then he said, where's the man who wrote these words? Was he replaced by a body double? Right? It's just hilarious. And then, of course, everybody's, you know, Donald Trump is accusing Elon Musk of turning against him when he saw that the big, beautiful bill contained cuts to his electric vehicle, right? Substitutes for his electric vehicle.

[00:33:45] Well, Elon Musk then retreats himself from 21, where he said, get rid of all subsidies. We don't need the $7,500 EV tax credit, right? And so he says, I've been trying to get rid of those subsidies for years. And so, in other words, Elon Musk did not turn against Trump because the big, beautiful bill got rid of the subsidies.

[00:34:13] Elon Musk has been willing to get rid of those for years. And here's my response to that. Let's just say that Elon Musk did go against it for that reason. Let's say that he did. This is not about Elon Musk. Okay? Correct. This is not about Donald Trump. This is not about one person attacking another, some internal whatever, who cares, feud. It's not about the Hatfields and the McCoys. This is about the government has been downgraded in its credit ratings by all three credit rating agencies. If it continues to happen, we'll be in trouble. Our interest is more than a trillion dollars a year now.

[00:34:43] Unsustainable. Okay? This is not about any individual. This is about reducing spending. And when you jettison that, we'll attack you. When you stand for that, we'll embrace you. That is a very simple principle. Yeah. Well, you know that our credit rating dropped last week. Did you know that, Sam? Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. So this is what I mean. It's not about people. This is about the reality on the ground of what's happening here. Yeah.

[00:35:09] And it's going to come back around and bite families because we're killing the future purchasing power of the dollars. And whatever they might be worth now, they're going to be worth far less 10 years, 5 or 10 years from now. And it's going to hurt families big time. Even though they think that they're helping families today, it's going to turn around and bite us in the you-know-where later on in years ahead.

[00:35:34] So anyway, I just wanted to throw that in there about the big, beautiful, ugly bill, boondoggle. Because, well, it also contains the Golden Dome, right? I mean, that's what this additional $1.5 billion or what was it? Anyway, they're bringing the military budget up to a full trillion dollars in this big boondoggle bill. Well, and for what? Well, it's for the Golden Dome.

[00:36:02] The Golden Dome, right? What is that? Well, it's this idea that the United States mainland, right, can be protected against all nuclear attacks or ballistic missile attacks. Basically, Eric Margulies talks about that in his column where he says it's a rerun of President Reagan's Star Wars missile shield, which never really got off the ground but was extremely popular.

[00:36:30] And then he quotes Frederick the Great of Prussia, who said in the 18th century, that would be in the 1700s sometime, Frederick the Great said that he who defends everything defends nothing. That's kind of an interesting quote in this context because Margulies continues in his column writing, quote, A national missile defense system to cover the entire nation would be impossibly expensive for a nation already deeply mired in debt.

[00:36:59] The always powerful military industrial complex will see Trump's Golden Dome fantasy as a second Christmas, though the basic technology has yet to be proven, end of quote. Right? And why did he say that? Well, then he got into some of the details, which we won't go into, but just in summary, Russia's ballistic missiles can alter course. They can change altitudes. They can switch targets.

[00:37:23] And what about electronic countermeasures that can fry our communications and guidance systems? Right? So you have to have a hardened grid, right, which, you know, ostensibly the military's communications is hardened. I hope that's the case. But Margulies ends his column with this. He says,

[00:37:48] It would be far more prudent for the U.S. to pursue disarmament talks and effective inspection regimes with its rivals than pie-in-the-sky defensive systems that will certainly enrich military companies but fail to protect North America. What's more, having even a partial anti-missile system will likely make the U.S. more aggressive and prone to wars, end of quote. Sam, that was Eric Margulies talking about the Golden Dome. Well, and Eric's right.

[00:38:17] We're behind on technology. And even if we were up on technology, I submit that we need to quit basically betraying America and transferring our technology to everybody in their dog. But a lot of these people are ahead of us now. What we need to do is put our nose to the grindstone in terms of internal technology, keep it quiet to ourselves. In other words, walk softly but carry a big stick. But what we need to do is work on the diplomatic relations because I think most of the time we could de-escalate our way out of most of this.

[00:38:41] The Founding Fathers had that view, and I maintain that view going forward, along with Ron Paul and many others, including Lowell, right? That's right, Sam. Absolutely right. Yeah. So we need to talk about this attack on Russia last week, Sam. And maybe you've talked about that already. But David Stockman has a great column about that. David Stockman was Reagan's budget director from 1981.

[00:39:09] So he's intimately familiar with our U.S. budget. His columns provide very cogent arguments for cutting the budget. In fact, he was the one, Sam, you were talking about cutting it in half. David Stockman believes we could actually cut to 7% of what it currently is without forfeiting the necessary defensive posture of our military.

[00:39:37] So he knows the numbers, and nobody believes him, but that's what he says. Anyway, he's talking about this drone attack, this Sunday drone attack, which was eight days ago, right? According to Zelensky himself, was nearly 20 months in the making. So it was surely hatched, kitted, trained, and pre-positioned with heavy-duty support from U.S. covert operations,

[00:40:01] and then actually triggered, launched, and guided by U.S. intelligence assets, right? That's what he's saying in his column. He explains that Trump would love to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. After all, Obama got it within a few months of taking office. Trump would like to trump that, I'm sure. But these hits on Russia's strategic bombers by the swarms of drones, about 120 devices in total,

[00:40:27] he writes, account for upwards of 25% of the bomber-led of Russia's triad nuclear deterrent. I mean, that's pretty serious, Sam. When you take these drones and dismember one-fourth of the long-range strategic, what they call a nuclear triad,

[00:40:52] Russia's triad nuclear deterrent, when you cripple a fourth of the bomber of Russia, that's real serious. In fact, Paul Craig Roberts talks about this in another column where he says, the attack on Russia and strategic forces by Ukraine, with or without President Trump's knowledge, and with or without help from Washington and the British,

[00:41:16] could have been the most dangerous event in east-west relations during my lifetime. The reason is that recently revised Russian war doctrine states that an attack, even by a non-nuclear country on the Russia's strategic triad, requires a strategic response. And strategic usually means nuclear, or at least a disabling response.

[00:41:42] Now, Paul Craig Roberts goes further into his column talking about the reason why Putin did not respond in a nuclear way, because he just labeled it a terrorist attack. In other words, if he can call it a terrorist attack, that means he doesn't have to respond with a nuclear response, because he doesn't know who to hit. He doesn't know who to shoot his missiles at if he calls it a terrorist attack.

[00:42:11] Well, by so doing, by calling it a terrorist attack, Sam, he is emboldening those who launched that drone strike. And so he's simply inviting more attacks on Russia by whoever instigated these drone attacks. And, you know, most likely the U.S. was involved. And probably Trump didn't even know about it before the fact. And there was an attack on Putin's helicopter,

[00:42:38] and fortunately he was safe from that. I don't have the details on that. But anyway, I don't think Trump knew that Putin's helicopter was targeted. And so probably the deep state, in fact, that's the name of this column by David Stockman, the deep state's drone attack was aimed to escalate the Ukraine war, right?

[00:43:07] And if we were wise, though, when Reskis calls it a terrorist attack, if we were wise, we could use that as a reason to de-escalate. Yeah, absolutely right. Yeah. And so Stockman says, The simultaneous launch of 120 of these little buggers, yep, that's what he wrote, 120 of these little buggers at the same moment across thousands of miles of Russian territory

[00:43:32] was indeed the result of an intricate Washington-driven plot and conspiracy. No Ukrainian cowboys could have pulled this off on their own steam, end of quote. I love the way Stockman writes. He's very vernacular. Anyway, he has several pictures in his column. His column can be found at ronpaulinstitute.org, by the way. Basically, you know, he's saying the deep state pulled this off

[00:43:59] and probably didn't even notify Trump what they were doing before the fact. And so what can President Trump do? Well, Stockman says Trump should shut off the spigot that funds Ukraine. No more money, no more weapons, intelligence or operational support. Demand a ceasefire. Invite Zelensky and Putin to Camp David and keep them there until they agree to dismantle the handicraft of Lenin, Stalin and Khrushchev. After all, he says, the latter, he's talking about Lenin, Stalin and Khrushchev,

[00:44:28] they were the actual bloody authors of today's dubious borders and a Ukrainian state that had never existed before in all of history prior to 1922. It shouldn't take long to partition the map and allow Crimea and the four provinces of the Donbass and South to go their separate ways back to Mother Russia. And the only guarantees that would be needed would be a Russian pledge to not allow the partitioned provinces to attack the rump of Ukraine and for the U.S. to guarantee that the shrunken state of Ukraine

[00:44:57] will not join NATO or attack the lost provinces. As it happens, that's all that Putin ever wanted. And for the U.S., it would mean not only choosing another hideously stupid chapter in the forever wars, but also the chance to start down a new path toward global peace and disarmament that might actually offer the Donald a real chance to get his Nobel Prize. End of quote. Amen. Adam Dick articulates the solution that Thomas Massey is wanting to put in place.

[00:45:27] Trump attacking Massey, but Massey's staying tall. And if we follow Thomas Massey's plan, according to Adam Dick, we could decrease this escalation instantly. Well? Well, we're talking about the audit of Fort Knox, folks. Thomas Massey introduced the U.S. Gold Reserve's audit bill. You know, we've often talked about audit the Fed. This is a bill to audit Fort Knox.

[00:45:52] I mean, according to official reports, Sam, the U.S. possesses 261 million troy ounces of gold in its gold reserves. But since when could you believe an official report from the government, right? They lied to us all the time. So Trump talked about auditing Fort Knox when he was campaigning, but he hasn't said anything about it since. That's kind of odd. Well, that's exactly what Thomas Massey's bill would do.

[00:46:17] It's the Gold Reserve Transparency Act, H.R. 3795, for those of you who are taking notes, H.R. 3795. Massey's bill requires the Comptroller General to contract with a qualified independent third-party external auditor to conduct and complete a full assay, inventory, and audit of all gold reserves within nine months of the bill becoming law and every five years thereafter.

[00:46:44] The auditor would also report on other gold reserves-related matters, including the sufficiency of measures for the physical security of the gold reserves, all encumbrances on the gold at present or entered into over the last 50 years, all sales, purchases, disbursements, or receipts of gold over those 50 years, along with identification of the terms and parties for those transactions,

[00:47:10] and a full accounting of all third parties held gold in which the U.S. government, including the Federal Reserve, has a direct or indirect interest. You know, and so that's the guts of the bill right there, Sam. Be a great way to find out how much gold we have at Fort Knox, right? And to whom that gold has been promised, right? I mean, that's a pretty important thing over the past 50 years. Where is that gold and to whom has it been promised?

[00:47:39] That's pretty important because physical gold really is a true security for the country. And if we don't have it, boy, we need to know sooner than later where our gold reserves stand. By the way, Thomas Massey is an advisory member of the Ron Paul Institute for Prosperity and Peace. Well, thank heavens because he deserves to be there, and his example is stellar, and we need to stand with him on that. Ron Paul and Thomas Massey both doing a good job on that.

[00:48:09] I would also say we need to back into an audit of the U.S. aid in detail and find out who spent money. I mean, they say there's up to a trillion dollars in missing money. Where'd that go? So we need to have accountability for that as well. And ultimately, if we created the Federal Reserve by fiat, we can reject it by fiat as well and just say, hey, the debt was created out of thin air, and so the solution will be paid out of thin air. And then we need to move towards honest constitutional currency. The sooner the better.

[00:48:38] Ron DeSantis did great in Florida saying we're going to stand with honest money and made a great move there. It's a start. It's not enough, but we're getting somewhere. And we need we the people to help us get there. Lowell? Yeah, you're absolutely right, Sam. And, you know, honest money is becoming more and more popular every day. Gold backs. We get more and more headlines, more and more popularity.

[00:49:00] We have state legislatures around the country who are clearing the way for their state to use gold and silver coin as currency, eliminating the capital gains taxes on them. We still have a federal capital gains tax, but hopefully we can get rid of that soon, too. So, yeah, sound money, honest money. It's coming back into vogue now because the fiat currency is so becoming so worthless. Right. Its value is decreasing every day.

[00:49:30] If you put your savings into paper, you're going to have less savings five years from now than than than you have now. So it's pretty, pretty sad. And this last column, Sam, Andrew Napolitano talks about the right to be left alone. And I just must say that his columns on this, the right to privacy, the Fourth Amendment, are excellent. We can't we have enough time to go into every detail here.

[00:49:59] But he talks about the fact that our rights come from our humanity. Right. They come from our creator, not from government. And and that's absolutely true. These rights were postulated by Aristotle 360 years before the before Christ was born. The natural law teaches that there are aspects of human existence and thus areas of human behavior that are not subject to the government.

[00:50:27] Aristotle's views would later be refined by Cicero. They would be codified by St. Thomas Aquinas. They would be explained by John Locke. And they'd be woven into the Anglo-American jurisprudence by British and American jurists and revolutionaries and constitutional framers. And thus, our rights to think as we wish, to say what we think, to publish what we say, to worship or not, to associate or not,

[00:50:51] to defend ourselves from crazies and tyrants, to own property and to be left alone, are all hardwired into our human nature by God. The and nature is the means through which God passes along his gifts to us. We come about by a biological act of nature and every step of which was ordained by God. His greatest gift to us is life. And he tied that gift to free will.

[00:51:20] Such a great column, Sam. I just love reading Andrew Napolitano's column. And then he brings us back to the Fourth Amendment. And he quotes one of the Supreme Court justices. His name was Louis Brandeis, who argued that government surveillance constitutes a search under the Fourth Amendment. And thus, per the express language of the amendment, cannot be conducted by the government without a warrant issued by a judge.

[00:51:49] He famously, talking about Brandeis here, Justice Brandeis, he famously called privacy the right most valued by civilized persons and described it as the right to be left alone. Wow. Pretty important stuff here. And so the thing is that Andrew Napolitano goes into here is that currently our government is surveilling us, right? They're doing it.

[00:52:17] He says, today, the National Security Agency, America's 60,000-person-strong domestic spying apparatus, captures every keystroke on every desktop and mobile device and every conversation on every landline and mobile device and all data transmitted into, out of, or within the United States. That's what the NSA does today.

[00:52:43] They don't have a search warrant to do so, but they do it today, and nobody even, you know, makes a stink about it. So my question is, when is Cash Patel going to arrest all these clowns for their violation of the law? Yeah. I mean, he should be the one to do it. Napolitano says, you'd be hard-pressed to find a geographic area that is not covered by police using hardware that tracks the movement and use of mobile phones.

[00:53:11] The government spends hundreds of billions of dollars annually just to watch us and follow us. Who authorized this? And why do we tolerate it? Whatever the answers to these questions, warrantless spying on Americans just got a lot worse. So, end of quote, Sam. Folks, this is another reason to call your public servants in Congress, right? They're the ones who could stop this warrantless spying on Americans, but they don't.

[00:53:41] They're gutless, they're cowards, and they don't want to go up against the surveillance state, which is really part of the deep state, which has control over us, Sam. Tell you what, President Benson was right years ago when he said if we don't stop them now, there's going to be a lot of more blood to run in the streets years later from now when they've gotten control over us, when the secret combination has gotten above us. They are above us, folks.

[00:54:09] And there's going to be a price to pay, Sam. Ezra Tab Benson also wrote a book to highlight this called An Enemy Hath Done This. And boy, howdy does that title tell it all. Let's stand for freedom. Let's de-escalate. Let's get out of wars. Let's return to honest money. We, the people, can make it happen if we stand together and keep the commandments of Almighty God. For Lowell Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org, and yours truly, LibertyRoundtable.com, we are syndicated by the Loving Liberty Radio Network, LovingLiberty.net. Spread the word, share the love,

[00:54:38] and God save the Republic of the United States of America.