Radio Show Hour 2 – 05/23/2024

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[00:01:03] You know, ladies and gentlemen, we believe that the checks and balances are one of the most brilliant things we have in America.

[00:01:08] That is one solution at our fingertips today.

[00:01:12] We the people can use our greater numbers to affect change in a very peaceful, productive, law-abiding, checks and balance style way in the traditions of our founders.

[00:01:22] One of the leaders doing that very thing is with me now.

[00:01:26] Mr. Pete Sepp.

[00:01:27] He's president of the National Taxpayers Union.

[00:01:31] NTU.org.

[00:01:33] And NTU is the voice of America's taxpayers.

[00:01:37] Mobilizing elected officials and citizens on behalf of tax relief and tax reform.

[00:01:44] You got to have it.

[00:01:46] Pete, welcome to the broadcast, sir.

[00:01:49] Always great to be here, Sam.

[00:01:52] The twists and turns in Washington are insane, but there is the voice of reason in the mix and it is the National Taxpayers Union, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:02:03] So NTU, that's the National Taxpayers Union, suggests reform to House Energy and Commerce Privacy Bill.

[00:02:12] Wow, when you say energy and commerce privacy bill, that's a massive mouthful first of all, Pete.

[00:02:18] Yeah, it certainly is.

[00:02:20] And the House Energy and Commerce Committee for your listeners benefit is really a kitchen sink committee when it comes to jurisdiction.

[00:02:30] They have jurisdiction over energy policy, trade policies within the United States, commerce as the name implies among the several states.

[00:02:40] But there's also a big health care policy role that energy and commerce has.

[00:02:46] And they regulate things like the powers of the Federal Trade Commission.

[00:02:51] So there are all kinds of things that energy and commerce does.

[00:02:56] And one of them is the subject of privacy.

[00:03:01] How do consumers protect their information when it's used on the Internet, through telecommunications like your cell phone,

[00:03:10] when your medical records have privacy considerations?

[00:03:15] And so the majority working with the minority on the committee, so this is Republicans and Democrats, are drafting a framework

[00:03:24] and it's called the American Privacy Rights Act.

[00:03:28] Why should taxpayers care about this?

[00:03:31] Well, we can certainly get into why they should.

[00:03:34] One of them is, and first and foremost, it's a flaw of the legislation,

[00:03:39] governments would be exempt from the privacy and data security requirements that this bill would impose on the private sector.

[00:03:50] That's a red flag for us right off the bat, considering that the Veterans Administration,

[00:03:57] the Office of Personnel Management, the Internal Revenue Service have all had huge data breaches,

[00:04:05] huge problems protecting the privacy of Americans that interact with them.

[00:04:11] Our message, of course, is government needs to clean up its act first

[00:04:16] and should be a model for the rest of the private sector rather than throwing more regulations on the private sector

[00:04:23] that could be counterproductive, but there are a lot more aspects to this bill.

[00:04:29] And it's strange, a lot of the healthcare companies have been getting hacked recently, right?

[00:04:35] Yes.

[00:04:36] That's something that we really got to deal with, these health companies are getting hacked

[00:04:39] and a lot of personal private information is getting leaked.

[00:04:42] If you get healthcare, I don't know that you can stay out of their systems though, Pete.

[00:04:46] Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the two-edged sword.

[00:04:50] The electronic form of data and record keeping was supposed to make the system more efficient,

[00:04:57] and it certainly has.

[00:04:59] It's a lot easier to take your medical records wherever you go,

[00:05:04] they get transmitted between your primary care doctor and the specialists

[00:05:09] or between the emergency room and a specialist and back and forth because it's all electronic now.

[00:05:17] But the downside, of course, is that a malevolent actor might be looking for that data

[00:05:24] and while it's being transmitted all over the place,

[00:05:27] they might intercept it and compromise it and use it for evil purposes.

[00:05:33] And this bill is trying to get a handle on a nationwide standard for data protection.

[00:05:41] There are good aspects to it, but again, problems here.

[00:05:46] For one thing, it hasn't yet gotten to distinguish between what sensitive and non-sensitive data is.

[00:05:54] It kind of throws a blanket across all of it and says,

[00:05:58] Well, your music streaming information is as important as your health records,

[00:06:04] so the entire economy has to obey this federal standard we're going to set for privacy.

[00:06:11] And so when does it really back a privacy play and categorize that data into reality

[00:06:17] and have real hardcore guidelines for serious sensitive data and not on everything?

[00:06:24] It almost seems like rather than nuancing that in a way that's productive,

[00:06:27] they're just trying to say, let's just control the whole thing.

[00:06:30] Well, yes, and of course, speaking of control,

[00:06:35] there's a section in the bill that empowers the Federal Trade Commission

[00:06:40] even further to oversee all of this data protection.

[00:06:45] And here's a line right out of George Orwell,

[00:06:49] Section 17 of the bill creates an FTC Bureau for Privacy Enforcement.

[00:06:57] That certainly doesn't sound like something we as taxpayers want to be shelling out money for.

[00:07:05] I think that we do need some federal role here because the data is moving across state lines.

[00:07:13] States have their own standards.

[00:07:15] And even internationally, so we have to represent the United States when that happens as well.

[00:07:21] That's right. That's right.

[00:07:23] And so we need to be careful though in creating new bureaus with untested powers

[00:07:31] that might backfire on American citizens.

[00:07:34] I mean, this is another section of the bill.

[00:07:36] It would say that this new Bureau for Privacy Enforcement can pursue actions

[00:07:42] even when it merely suspects that a particular algorithm has what are called

[00:07:48] quote discriminatory effects, unquote.

[00:07:52] That's a pretty wide area that the federal government could use quite possibly against us.

[00:07:59] And we don't want that.

[00:08:01] The guidance I would use in a discussion like this, Pete,

[00:08:05] and tell me if I'm off base or if this has merit,

[00:08:09] I would use the term offensive and defensive government here.

[00:08:13] Government has a defensive role.

[00:08:15] Government should be supporting the protection of privacy.

[00:08:21] But when we start using enforcement as opposed to protection,

[00:08:25] we've crossed the line from defensive proper role of government

[00:08:28] to offensive gaining more power or giving more power to government.

[00:08:34] We need to think offensive and defensive here.

[00:08:37] Government has an appropriate defensive place in this.

[00:08:40] We agree, but this offensive idea, this enforcement idea is when it runs off the chain.

[00:08:47] Yes, absolutely so.

[00:08:49] And very interestingly, Sam, the European Union has what they call

[00:08:55] the General Data Protection Regulation and many problems with that.

[00:09:00] But you know, they are ahead of us as far as this bill is concerned in Congress

[00:09:06] because the GDPR applies to both private and governmental entities.

[00:09:13] This bill in Congress does not.

[00:09:16] And again, that's a problem because governments in the United States

[00:09:22] are actually among the worst violators of privacy rights at this point in time.

[00:09:29] So where do we go with a discussion like this?

[00:09:32] Where does the bill stand?

[00:09:33] You guys are recommending reforms.

[00:09:35] Reforms, and I would start with the language.

[00:09:37] Let's just go through the bill first and put government into defensive role

[00:09:41] rather than offensive role, first of all.

[00:09:43] Secondly then, let's go through the bill and start to categorize.

[00:09:46] You know, if I text somebody, that's not the same as my banking information

[00:09:51] or my personal health information or details about my marriage or my life.

[00:09:57] Okay, we need to really get a handle on this.

[00:09:59] There's already bills and already all kinds of information out there

[00:10:03] that categorize data in appropriate buckets

[00:10:06] so that we can intelligently respond accordingly.

[00:10:08] This isn't new.

[00:10:10] They just seem to not have spent the time or have obliterated this reality, right?

[00:10:16] Yes, exactly.

[00:10:18] That's where we start.

[00:10:19] We also look at what governments need to do to protect data.

[00:10:24] Put that in the bill.

[00:10:26] We need to think about not creating new federal agency powers.

[00:10:31] And we need to think about this private right of action

[00:10:34] that lets anybody sue over data breaches.

[00:10:37] That's where we start.

[00:10:39] All right, let's skip the break.

[00:10:41] This is just too important.

[00:10:42] So when we talk about this, who are the ones that put this bill together

[00:10:45] and are they listening to guidance and direction

[00:10:47] from those of us who would like to see reform on it?

[00:10:50] Oh yes, these are members of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce

[00:10:55] and the chair is Kathy McMorris Rogers.

[00:10:59] She is working with a colleague on the Senate side

[00:11:03] in the Senate Commerce Committee with Maria Cantwell,

[00:11:07] Senator from Washington State.

[00:11:09] And they've put together this framework.

[00:11:12] It's been introduced.

[00:11:14] It's only at the committee level,

[00:11:16] not necessarily going to the House floor soon.

[00:11:20] But today, this very day,

[00:11:23] there is what's called a markup of the legislation

[00:11:26] in the House Energy and Commerce Committee

[00:11:28] where they're going to consider amendments

[00:11:31] that we are suggesting in this memo to the committee.

[00:11:35] Here's hoping that they very, very significantly

[00:11:40] make a course correction on some of the elements of this bill.

[00:11:44] It's a great thing that they're focusing on privacy,

[00:11:48] that they want some kind of national protection going on,

[00:11:53] but there's still a lot of work to do with this bill.

[00:11:57] All right, now I've got a couple of suggestions that, you know,

[00:12:00] I don't know, hopefully somebody's listening

[00:12:03] that can put these suggestions in the hopper.

[00:12:05] But here's my first suggestion.

[00:12:07] Your headline says NTU, that's the National Taxpayers Union,

[00:12:10] NTU.org, suggest reforms.

[00:12:13] I agree 100%, 1,000%.

[00:12:15] I couldn't agree more.

[00:12:17] And then it's this, two,

[00:12:20] and then they call it House Energy and Commerce Privacy Bill.

[00:12:26] It's a mouthful, but here's what I would say.

[00:12:28] Why don't we look at this and say,

[00:12:30] look, we don't want a single bill for this?

[00:12:33] Energy needs to be dealt with by itself.

[00:12:36] Commerce is too broad of a discussion,

[00:12:39] so that should be out.

[00:12:41] Privacy should be dealt with on its own.

[00:12:44] And if you have economic realities that must be dealt with,

[00:12:47] you can take that commerce general term

[00:12:50] kind of define more what you mean in relation to this

[00:12:53] because you just can't have such broad terms.

[00:12:56] You'll never get your arms around that are a handle on it.

[00:12:59] And so to me, what you do is you divide and conquer this bill

[00:13:02] into a bunch of separate pieces

[00:13:04] where people can know what they're talking about

[00:13:06] and have common sense on a topic.

[00:13:08] If you're not careful, these huge broad terms

[00:13:10] seem to conflict with one another.

[00:13:12] It reminds me of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

[00:13:15] In the beginning, it was like,

[00:13:16] hey, let's make sure there's wheelchair ramps

[00:13:17] in your buildings.

[00:13:18] Now they're literally suing websites

[00:13:20] that aren't compliant,

[00:13:21] even though the websites are trying to get rid of them

[00:13:23] and get compliant because there's no guidance.

[00:13:25] And attorneys are frustrated,

[00:13:26] and some attorneys who are exploiting this

[00:13:28] are getting rich,

[00:13:29] and the poor businesses are getting beat up,

[00:13:31] and it's so vague and broad

[00:13:33] that no one even knows how to respond.

[00:13:35] We can't let that example happen here, Pete.

[00:13:38] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[00:13:40] And I think you're right about this

[00:13:42] because the whole economy, when you think about it,

[00:13:46] is driven by data now.

[00:13:48] And if you're going to try to write a bill

[00:13:51] to encompass all of that at once,

[00:13:54] you're basically saying,

[00:13:56] let's regulate the entire economy

[00:13:58] and the flow of information in it.

[00:14:00] How about we reverse course and say,

[00:14:03] what are the pain points in the economy

[00:14:06] where data privacy is most important

[00:14:09] and it's not being protected?

[00:14:11] And what limited role can the federal government pursue

[00:14:17] to help make things better?

[00:14:19] And I think that looking at this sector by sector

[00:14:24] and saying, this is important,

[00:14:26] this is less important,

[00:14:28] this is not important at all,

[00:14:30] and focusing legislative energy

[00:14:32] where it'll do the most good

[00:14:34] will not only help taxpayers,

[00:14:36] it will help protect our privacy rights

[00:14:39] without government growing too big.

[00:14:42] I would also recommend a separation

[00:14:45] based on jurisdictions.

[00:14:46] This international discussion is a worthy discussion.

[00:14:49] But it's not the same as a national

[00:14:51] or a general government discussion

[00:14:53] for the several states,

[00:14:55] which has jurisdictional separation

[00:14:57] from each state as well.

[00:14:59] And so we need to have jurisdictional boundaries here too, right?

[00:15:03] Yes, we absolutely do.

[00:15:06] And sure, they of course interact with each other.

[00:15:11] I mean, even a small town

[00:15:13] and the data that might be going back and forth

[00:15:17] among healthcare entities at a rural hospital

[00:15:21] might find its way somewhere overseas.

[00:15:24] We don't know, but we do have to try

[00:15:27] and not bite off more than we can chew here.

[00:15:30] And we need to use the resources that Congress has,

[00:15:35] divide up the labor,

[00:15:37] and think about each piece.

[00:15:40] The other way to look at this, ladies and gentlemen,

[00:15:43] is if you have each piece nuanced

[00:15:46] as Pete wisely points out into these different sectors

[00:15:49] on a variety of separations,

[00:15:51] jurisdictional being one of them,

[00:15:53] obviously there's overlap

[00:15:54] and you need to deal with what happens when data does,

[00:15:57] follow the money they say,

[00:15:59] but follow the data in this case.

[00:16:01] When the data crosses these lines,

[00:16:03] then it invokes these different jurisdictions.

[00:16:05] That's one way to look at it.

[00:16:06] But the other way to look at this separation

[00:16:08] that I'm talking about is

[00:16:09] if you have a bunch of bills that do this

[00:16:10] that are separately debated and discussed,

[00:16:12] you're likely to get a lot tighter,

[00:16:14] better, more appropriate,

[00:16:16] more defensive role language in those bills.

[00:16:19] And then later, if there is a blip in a piece of it,

[00:16:22] then you can take on that little bill piece

[00:16:24] and reform or change that,

[00:16:26] but you don't have to open it up

[00:16:27] to this broad omnibus discussion.

[00:16:30] That's looking down the road, Pete.

[00:16:32] Yeah, yeah.

[00:16:34] And this is the way the private sector

[00:16:36] generally does things, Sam.

[00:16:38] You know, it's an iterative process.

[00:16:40] Oh, that's where I come from.

[00:16:41] That would make sense, huh?

[00:16:42] Yeah, yeah.

[00:16:43] You know?

[00:16:44] That's right.

[00:16:46] You make some changes, see how they work.

[00:16:50] If they don't work, fix them.

[00:16:52] I mean, governments are pretty bad at that.

[00:16:55] Let's admit it.

[00:16:57] They want some grand solution.

[00:16:59] They put it into place.

[00:17:01] They walk away from it.

[00:17:02] Five years later, Congress holds an oversight hearing

[00:17:06] and finds that everything's broken down.

[00:17:08] They don't know what to do.

[00:17:10] So why not take a different approach

[00:17:11] where you have several pinpoint bills

[00:17:15] and you can keep an eye on them,

[00:17:17] constantly monitor them,

[00:17:19] figure out if something breaks down,

[00:17:21] how to quickly fix it and move forward?

[00:17:25] You know, in an area like this

[00:17:27] where there's technology and data changing hands,

[00:17:32] we have to resist the tendency to over legislate.

[00:17:38] Amen to that.

[00:17:40] Amen to that.

[00:17:41] All right, before we move along

[00:17:42] because there's several other bills

[00:17:43] and things that are happening in Congress

[00:17:45] and et cetera that I want to get to,

[00:17:46] where does this stand

[00:17:47] and what can the people do right now about this?

[00:17:49] Like it seems so big right now

[00:17:51] that I don't know that there's anything

[00:17:52] I can really do as an individual

[00:17:54] except to call for reform,

[00:17:56] except to point out some of these things on the radio

[00:17:58] and say, hey, here's a great road to go down.

[00:18:00] Think defensive, not offensively.

[00:18:02] Hey, you know what?

[00:18:03] Divide and conquer this thing

[00:18:05] so that it's not so omnibus in nature

[00:18:07] or so big nobody can understand

[00:18:09] or deal with it or the smaller the bills are,

[00:18:12] the less likely that people sneak pork into them

[00:18:15] and everything else.

[00:18:16] That's the guidance I would give,

[00:18:18] but I feel like my hands are kind of tied

[00:18:20] in terms of doing anything effectively with this.

[00:18:23] Obviously that's not true,

[00:18:24] but it feels that way.

[00:18:26] Yeah, it sure does.

[00:18:29] It certainly does

[00:18:31] and the fact that it's at the committee level right now

[00:18:34] means that we have to focus

[00:18:37] on the dozens of committee members

[00:18:40] on the Energy and Commerce Committee

[00:18:43] that are marking it up today.

[00:18:46] Soon the Senate Commerce Committee

[00:18:49] will mark up its own legislation

[00:18:53] or this House legislation.

[00:18:55] That's an important point to weigh in,

[00:18:58] weigh in with the chairs,

[00:19:00] and that's Kathy McMorris Rogers on the House side,

[00:19:04] Maria Campwell on the Senate side.

[00:19:07] But also contact your own lawmakers

[00:19:10] and say, look, I'm watching these bills

[00:19:13] as they move through the process

[00:19:15] and as a taxpayer I am very concerned

[00:19:18] that number one, the bill is overbroad.

[00:19:21] Number two, governments are exempted

[00:19:23] from any provisions.

[00:19:25] Number three, it empowers new bureaucracies

[00:19:28] to enforce rather than protect.

[00:19:31] That's a pretty simple message

[00:19:33] to take to your lawmaker

[00:19:35] and take it loud and clear.

[00:19:38] And if your lawmaker is knee-deep in the bill,

[00:19:41] they know exactly what you're talking about.

[00:19:43] If they're not knee-deep,

[00:19:44] they haven't really focused on this yet,

[00:19:46] then this gives them a heads up

[00:19:48] that their constituents are on top of this thing

[00:19:51] and they better be too.

[00:19:52] So you're sending a clear, concise, appropriate,

[00:19:55] peaceful, clear message of our desires

[00:19:58] and effects as they serve us.

[00:20:00] You want to do so, get a hold of Congress,

[00:20:02] 202, or wow, 202-225-3121

[00:20:08] or 202-224-3121,

[00:20:11] depending on if you want the House or Senate side.

[00:20:13] It doesn't matter really which number you call

[00:20:14] because the capital switchboard

[00:20:15] will get you where you need to go for sure.

[00:20:17] But you've got to get involved in this.

[00:20:21] Is this thing going to slow walk

[00:20:23] or is it going to bust out

[00:20:25] and be signed into law before we even know it?

[00:20:27] What do you think is going to happen here?

[00:20:30] Well, it seems Congress has trouble

[00:20:32] doing mostly anything these days

[00:20:35] and we can talk about that

[00:20:37] when it comes to tax relief.

[00:20:39] It's happening in fits and starts.

[00:20:42] We had thought that this bill

[00:20:44] would be introduced in late 2023,

[00:20:48] early 2024, wasn't introduced until very recently.

[00:20:55] So my guess is that this will see markup

[00:21:00] and probably will be shelved at least until June,

[00:21:06] perhaps even after the July 4th recess.

[00:21:10] But keep an eye on it because the problem is

[00:21:14] when the House gets stymied

[00:21:17] in one area of legislation,

[00:21:19] they immediately turn their attention to another.

[00:21:22] So if the appropriations process breaks down,

[00:21:25] they'll say, okay, can't do anything there.

[00:21:28] Hey, let's look at this privacy bill

[00:21:30] and suddenly it'll come to the floor.

[00:21:33] So it's a very important thing to keep an eye on.

[00:21:37] So the point is beware, be involved,

[00:21:40] be polite, be persistent.

[00:21:42] That's what we need the American people to do.

[00:21:45] It's positive and negative.

[00:21:47] If we push this off, it's good

[00:21:49] because the bill's not right for passage.

[00:21:51] But it's bad because the American people

[00:21:53] continue to suffer because there's no guidance

[00:21:55] on this privacy and there's no framework

[00:21:58] that can protect us.

[00:22:00] So it's negative even though I don't want it

[00:22:02] to go forward in its current form,

[00:22:04] it needs reform, it's negative that it just

[00:22:06] gets shelved as well though, Pete, right?

[00:22:08] That's right.

[00:22:10] The issue should not get shelved

[00:22:13] even if the legislation needs to be shelved.

[00:22:17] And that is the quintessential point,

[00:22:20] ladies and gentlemen.

[00:22:21] All right, tell your senators,

[00:22:23] I'm going to say that three times,

[00:22:25] tell your senators, taxpayers need relief now.

[00:22:31] There is an act.

[00:22:32] What is this thing called?

[00:22:34] It's the Tax Relief for Families and Workers Act.

[00:22:39] The Tax Relief for Families and Workers Act

[00:22:42] would benefit American taxpayers

[00:22:44] and stimulate economic investment.

[00:22:47] Now I don't really want the government

[00:22:49] to stimulate anything or promote anything

[00:22:51] because that's the offensive role.

[00:22:53] I want it to be defensive,

[00:22:55] but when we say it'll stimulate though,

[00:22:57] there's a lot of defensive measures

[00:22:59] that can be placed that can create

[00:23:01] stability in the marketplace

[00:23:03] and create consistency where people can invest

[00:23:06] and know and count on what they're doing

[00:23:08] and that's what we're talking about, right Pete?

[00:23:11] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:23:13] In the true defensive sense,

[00:23:15] we're asking government to do less of something

[00:23:18] which is take less of the American people's money.

[00:23:22] That's what the Tax Relief for Families

[00:23:24] and Workers Act is all about.

[00:23:26] It gets the government to stop taking as much

[00:23:30] and leaves that money in the hands of families,

[00:23:33] small businesses, large businesses,

[00:23:36] all Americans in the private sector.

[00:23:38] So number one, we can have more money

[00:23:42] to combat the effects of inflation

[00:23:45] which was also started by government ironically.

[00:23:49] Number two, we'll have investment capital

[00:23:52] so businesses can continue to grow

[00:23:55] and provide jobs.

[00:23:57] Number three, families will have more money

[00:24:00] in their pockets to decide how they want to spend it,

[00:24:04] put it away for college,

[00:24:06] perhaps purchase a new home,

[00:24:09] perhaps help to feed their kids even.

[00:24:13] These are all important parts of tax relief.

[00:24:16] They help the economy, they help families

[00:24:18] and Congress just needs to act on it.

[00:24:21] The House has already passed it.

[00:24:24] All right, when we come back,

[00:24:26] we need to put pressure on the Senate.

[00:24:28] The question is will Grandpa Joe sign it?

[00:24:30] We're going to talk about the status

[00:24:32] and again you need to call your senators,

[00:24:34] urge them to pass this bill right away.

[00:24:36] 202-225-3121.

[00:24:39] We'll talk more with Pete Sapp,

[00:24:41] president of National Taxpayers Union,

[00:24:44] NTU.org, in seconds on your radio.

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[00:30:09] Back with you live,

[00:30:10] ladies and gentlemen,

[00:30:11] Pete Sepp is with me.

[00:30:13] Pete Sepp is president

[00:30:14] of the National Taxpayers Union,

[00:30:16] NTU.org.

[00:30:19] We're currently talking about,

[00:30:21] you got to tell your senators

[00:30:23] to work on this with us.

[00:30:24] Taxpayers need relief now,

[00:30:25] ladies and gentlemen.

[00:30:26] What are we talking about?

[00:30:28] The tax relief for families

[00:30:30] and workers act.

[00:30:32] It would make a big difference.

[00:30:33] It's already passed the House.

[00:30:35] It's being held up in the Senate.

[00:30:36] Call your senators now,

[00:30:38] 202-225-3121,

[00:30:41] and say, you know what?

[00:30:42] Please people, get this done.

[00:30:44] We need the relief and we need it now.

[00:30:46] It would make a tremendous difference

[00:30:50] and our greater numbers of We the People

[00:30:52] can peacefully change the game on this

[00:30:54] if we all get involved, Pete.

[00:30:57] Yeah, that's absolutely right.

[00:30:59] These were elements of the 2019

[00:31:02] Tax Cuts and Jobs Act

[00:31:05] that passed under President Trump,

[00:31:08] I'm sorry, 2017.

[00:31:10] And that's really an important point

[00:31:13] to make.

[00:31:14] Republicans in the Senate seem a little

[00:31:17] reluctant to move forward on this bill.

[00:31:20] Well, many of them supported

[00:31:22] the original bill that made

[00:31:24] this tax relief possible.

[00:31:26] We need to extend it now.

[00:31:28] We're talking about allowing

[00:31:30] businesses full and immediate

[00:31:32] write-offs for investments they make.

[00:31:35] We're talking about keeping the child

[00:31:38] tax credit that many people depend upon

[00:31:41] for tax relief at its current level.

[00:31:44] We're talking about allowing R&D expenses

[00:31:48] to be immediately taken rather than

[00:31:51] amortized over a number of years.

[00:31:54] These were important provisions

[00:31:56] of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017.

[00:32:00] They've expired and businesses

[00:32:02] and families are hurting.

[00:32:04] Republicans and Democrats in the Senate

[00:32:07] need to get together on this

[00:32:09] like they did in the House of Representatives.

[00:32:12] We had said just before the break

[00:32:14] would Biden sign this?

[00:32:16] Well, it passed the House

[00:32:18] with 359 votes, a veto-proof majority.

[00:32:22] If we can get that kind of majority

[00:32:25] in the Senate, say 60-65 votes,

[00:32:29] the president will have no choice but to sign it.

[00:32:33] That's what we want and that's what I mean

[00:32:35] by our greater numbers, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:32:37] If we get involved, the other thing

[00:32:39] to remember is that we have a narrow

[00:32:41] window between now and November

[00:32:43] when Biden is up for election,

[00:32:45] which means he's going to want to do

[00:32:47] something that makes the people feel

[00:32:49] like he's on our side to some degree.

[00:32:51] Now is that strike while the iron's hot?

[00:32:53] That's what we're saying, right, Pete?

[00:32:55] That's right, and the iron's going to

[00:32:57] cool quickly too as we approach

[00:32:59] the Republican and Democratic

[00:33:01] conventions in August.

[00:33:03] The activity in Congress is going to

[00:33:05] slow down. There won't be much

[00:33:07] going on past July.

[00:33:10] Amen to that. All right,

[00:33:12] Brian Reilly over at NTU.com wrote

[00:33:14] an incredible article.

[00:33:16] Agriculture Committee Should Make

[00:33:18] Significant Changes to Farm Bill.

[00:33:20] This again is what we're talking about.

[00:33:22] Same principles in the earlier

[00:33:24] segment that we mentioned about

[00:33:26] dividing and conquering the bill

[00:33:28] based on a variety of thinking

[00:33:30] defensive instead of offensive.

[00:33:32] That's what's needed on this same bill.

[00:33:34] The same principles apply, right?

[00:33:36] Yes. This is a memo,

[00:33:38] actually, to the House

[00:33:40] Committee on Agriculture. Much in

[00:33:42] the way we sent a memo to the

[00:33:44] House Energy and Commerce Committee

[00:33:46] on their privacy bill, but this one

[00:33:48] is about the Farm, Food,

[00:33:50] and National Security Act

[00:33:52] of 2024.

[00:33:54] The Farm Bill is a source of

[00:33:56] a lot of federal spending,

[00:33:58] not just on subsidies

[00:34:00] for farming and various

[00:34:02] commodities, but also

[00:34:04] what's called the nutrition title,

[00:34:06] the SNAP benefit program,

[00:34:08] food stamps, effectively.

[00:34:10] That amounts to tens of billions

[00:34:12] of dollars in expenditures alone.

[00:34:15] And so we made a number

[00:34:17] of recommendations about

[00:34:19] how you have to expand

[00:34:21] trade so that our products

[00:34:23] get a fair shake abroad

[00:34:25] and that we're exchanging them.

[00:34:27] That helps farmers far more

[00:34:29] than handouts give them markets,

[00:34:31] open those markets overseas

[00:34:33] so they can sell their goods.

[00:34:35] In the SNAP title,

[00:34:37] the nutritional benefits,

[00:34:39] we need to do a far, far

[00:34:41] better job cracking down

[00:34:43] on fraud and improper payments,

[00:34:45] which can represent in some cases

[00:34:48] one, even two dollars

[00:34:50] out of every ten that can be

[00:34:52] spent there.

[00:34:54] We need to start thinking about

[00:34:56] how we properly structure

[00:34:58] the loan guarantees

[00:35:00] and whatnot.

[00:35:02] Those are very, very risky

[00:35:04] undertakings for

[00:35:06] American taxpayers because

[00:35:08] if something happens

[00:35:10] in a given region of the country

[00:35:12] where crop prices go down

[00:35:14] and natural disaster

[00:35:16] or something like that, in many

[00:35:18] cases taxpayers are the

[00:35:20] backstop.

[00:35:21] We need to have a much more

[00:35:23] sustainable system, and because

[00:35:25] this farm bill only comes around

[00:35:27] for discussion every few years,

[00:35:29] you know, five or seven years

[00:35:31] is usually how these programs

[00:35:33] are authorized for, we have

[00:35:35] to take advantage of this

[00:35:37] opportunity now.

[00:35:40] Amen to that.

[00:35:41] Call your House members, your

[00:35:43] senators.

[00:35:44] We need significant changes

[00:35:46] to the bill.

[00:35:47] We need to be much more

[00:35:48] defensive as opposed to

[00:35:49] offensive.

[00:35:49] We need to be much more

[00:35:51] opening of markets and growing

[00:35:53] the pie rather than penalizing

[00:35:55] those who have a piece of the

[00:35:57] pie.

[00:35:58] That's what we've got to work

[00:36:00] on.

[00:36:01] We need your support.

[00:36:02] Final point that I want to

[00:36:04] make, and then anything you've

[00:36:06] got really quick, Pete, NTU,

[00:36:08] National Taxpayers Union,

[00:36:10] urges yes, a resounding yes

[00:36:12] on HR 4763, the

[00:36:14] Financial Innovation and

[00:36:16] Technology for the 21st Century

[00:36:18] and the 21st Century.

[00:36:20] We're going to have a link to

[00:36:22] that on NTU.org on it, but

[00:36:24] let's have Pete kind of

[00:36:26] highlight this for us.

[00:36:27] We need to get this done too,

[00:36:29] right?

[00:36:30] Yes.

[00:36:31] This is legislation that

[00:36:33] would establish a streamlined

[00:36:36] and also limited regulatory

[00:36:38] regime for what are called

[00:36:41] crypto securities and

[00:36:43] commodities.

[00:36:44] You know, what's happening

[00:36:45] now is that the U.S.

[00:36:47] Commission and the FDIC, the

[00:36:49] whole alphabet soup of the

[00:36:51] federal government, even the

[00:36:52] IRS is trying to get into the

[00:36:55] business of regulating

[00:36:57] cryptocurrency and

[00:36:58] crypto securities.

[00:37:00] We need to, again, as we've

[00:37:02] been talking about throughout

[00:37:04] this program, adopt a

[00:37:06] defensive protective stance

[00:37:08] for the role of government

[00:37:10] rather than an expansive

[00:37:12] overreaching one.

[00:37:13] That's what this legislation

[00:37:15] does.

[00:37:16] It establishes clear

[00:37:18] boundaries for which agencies

[00:37:20] regulate what kind of

[00:37:22] activity and how they need to

[00:37:24] regulate it in the interest of

[00:37:26] taxpayers and Americans rather

[00:37:29] than the interests of

[00:37:30] government.

[00:37:31] And government does have an

[00:37:33] interest in many of these

[00:37:34] things.

[00:37:35] The bureaucracy loves to expand

[00:37:37] and not only fill the

[00:37:39] vacuum, but make the vacuum

[00:37:41] bigger through its own laws

[00:37:43] and then fill it again.

[00:37:45] It's a circular process.

[00:37:47] Wow.

[00:37:48] We've really only got a

[00:37:50] couple of minutes left with

[00:37:52] Pete Sepp.

[00:37:53] He's busy, but he's taking

[00:37:55] time out of his schedule for

[00:37:56] us.

[00:37:57] Pete, what else do we need to

[00:37:58] be keeping an eye on the

[00:37:59] ball regarding right now in

[00:38:00] Congress?

[00:38:01] And what should we be

[00:38:02] focusing on locally?

[00:38:03] Give me kind of a, you

[00:38:04] know, hey, what else have we

[00:38:05] overlooked?

[00:38:06] Well, it's appropriations

[00:38:08] season again here in

[00:38:09] Washington, D.C., and that

[00:38:11] means we need to start

[00:38:13] worrying about whether

[00:38:14] Congress is going to do its

[00:38:16] job and legislate spending

[00:38:18] bills that will start to

[00:38:19] pull back on the rampant

[00:38:21] federal overspending that is

[00:38:23] driving our national debt.

[00:38:25] So we're going to be

[00:38:26] keeping an eye on all of

[00:38:27] those bills.

[00:38:28] Chances are the schedule is

[00:38:30] going to slip.

[00:38:31] We already have Memorial Day

[00:38:33] coming up.

[00:38:34] Normally appropriations bills

[00:38:36] would be written and heard

[00:38:38] in committee and being

[00:38:39] prepared for floor action.

[00:38:41] We're nowhere close to

[00:38:42] that.

[00:38:43] That may work in our favor

[00:38:45] later this year in the form

[00:38:47] of an omnibus bill that has

[00:38:49] limited spending, but we're

[00:38:51] definitely watching those.

[00:38:53] And at the state and local

[00:38:55] level, there is lots of

[00:38:57] ballot measure activity

[00:38:58] going on for this election.

[00:39:00] A huge measure that's on

[00:39:03] the ballot already in the

[00:39:05] state of California that

[00:39:06] would strengthen the

[00:39:08] protections enacted almost

[00:39:10] 50 years ago now.

[00:39:12] Under Howard Jarvis and

[00:39:14] Proposition 13, the property

[00:39:16] tax protection measure.

[00:39:18] Those are important

[00:39:20] activities that we often

[00:39:22] overlook because we're

[00:39:23] focused on candidates and

[00:39:25] people, but there are

[00:39:27] citizens around this country

[00:39:29] qualifying for state and

[00:39:31] local ballots, interesting

[00:39:33] laws that could limit the

[00:39:35] size and scope of

[00:39:36] government in their own

[00:39:37] backyard.

[00:39:38] Definitely take a look at

[00:39:40] those for folks to see

[00:39:42] what's happening on ballot

[00:39:44] measure activity.

[00:39:45] You are likely to find

[00:39:47] you'll be able to volunteer

[00:39:49] for something near you.

[00:39:51] Ladies and gentlemen, we

[00:39:53] need to keep our hands,

[00:39:55] both hands on the wallet

[00:39:57] and not let them spend us

[00:39:59] into oblivion.

[00:40:00] National security is at

[00:40:02] stake with that.

[00:40:03] A moral hazard has been

[00:40:05] entered into for far too

[00:40:07] long.

[00:40:08] We the people by our

[00:40:09] greater numbers can solve

[00:40:10] that.

[00:40:11] Secondarily, you need to

[00:40:13] look local and think

[00:40:14] local.

[00:40:15] Local and state can set the

[00:40:17] standards, set the pattern

[00:40:18] as it trickles downstream

[00:40:20] to the national.

[00:40:21] The national taxpayers

[00:40:22] union, NTU.org, is ready

[00:40:24] to partner with you at

[00:40:26] every jurisdictional

[00:40:27] reality in your journey.

[00:40:29] From all the way local to

[00:40:30] all the way federal and

[00:40:31] beyond, they're available

[00:40:33] to support us.

[00:40:35] NTU.org.

[00:40:36] Thank you, Pete.

[00:40:38] My pleasure.

[00:40:39] Take care.

[00:40:41] There he goes, doing a

[00:40:42] phenomenal job as always.

[00:40:43] Quick pause, I'm Sam

[00:40:44] Bushman.

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[00:43:16] live, ladies and

[00:43:17] gentlemen.

[00:43:18] The next piece I want

[00:43:19] to highlight before

[00:43:20] the end of the hour

[00:43:21] is this incredible

[00:43:22] story in Western

[00:43:23] Journal.

[00:43:24] Jack Davis wrote the

[00:43:27] article, tremendous

[00:43:28] article, great work

[00:43:29] by Jack by the way.

[00:43:31] The Western Journal

[00:43:32] ladies and gentlemen

[00:43:33] is just a wonderful

[00:43:34] breakout news service.

[00:43:35] If you're not keeping

[00:43:36] an eye on the Western

[00:43:37] Journal, you need to

[00:43:38] be because they have

[00:43:39] some tremendous stories

[00:43:40] in their great

[00:43:41] publication.

[00:43:42] But Jack Davis over

[00:43:43] at Western Journal

[00:43:44] puts this together.

[00:43:45] Headline says this,

[00:43:46] Catholic group sues

[00:43:47] Biden administration.

[00:43:48] That's right, Catholic

[00:43:49] group sues Biden

[00:43:50] administration.

[00:43:51] Over quote,

[00:43:52] blatant violation of

[00:43:53] the law.

[00:43:54] And that's what

[00:43:55] the Western Journal

[00:43:56] is about.

[00:43:57] So let's look at

[00:43:58] this article.

[00:43:59] This article is about

[00:44:00] the Western Journal

[00:44:01] and the White House

[00:44:02] and the White House

[00:44:03] and the White House

[00:44:04] and the White House

[00:44:05] and the White House

[00:44:06] and the White House

[00:44:07] and the White House

[00:44:08] and the White House

[00:44:09] of the United States

[00:44:10] and the White House

[00:44:11] and the White House

[00:44:12] and the White House

[00:44:13] and the White House

[00:44:14] in the first amendment.

[00:44:15] That's right.

[00:44:16] This is huge.

[00:44:17] You know,

[00:44:18] the Catholics

[00:44:19] got beat up a lot

[00:44:20] by the FBI,

[00:44:21] the Justice Department

[00:44:22] because the

[00:44:23] Southern Poverty

[00:44:24] Law Center told

[00:44:25] a bunch of lies

[00:44:26] about the Catholics.

[00:44:27] And then

[00:44:28] the courts literally

[00:44:29] rejected it.

[00:44:30] The FBI realized

[00:44:31] over 20 state

[00:44:32] attorneys general

[00:44:33] said,

[00:44:34] which is good news, right? But the abuse of religious organizations continues. The Catholics,

[00:44:42] sadly, are at the heart of it, but they're standing up. And I commend them for standing

[00:44:50] up. The headline or the sub-headline on this, the Knights of Columbus are fighting back.

[00:44:57] They're fighting the Biden administration so that a Catholic mass

[00:45:00] can be said over the honored dead on Memorial Day at what they call

[00:45:14] Poplar Grove National Cemetery in Petersburg, Virginia. This is huge in my opinion. So they're

[00:45:25] simply saying, look, we want to be able to say mass. And they're not able to. I don't really

[00:45:30] understand why they wouldn't be able to, but that's the deal, right? They say although the tradition

[00:45:39] of a Memorial Day mass at the cemetery dates back to the 1960s, it turns out the National

[00:45:47] Park Service is saying no, religion is against the rules. But see, Joe's only reading part

[00:45:55] of the First Amendment, folks. The policies and positions blocking the Knights of Columbus

[00:46:03] from continuing their long-standing tradition is a blatant violation of the First Amendment

[00:46:11] and Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the Catholics say. I couldn't agree more.

[00:46:20] I couldn't agree with the Catholics more on this. Okay? The policy and decisions blocking them

[00:46:27] from their standing religious tradition is a blatant violation of the First Amendment

[00:46:32] and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. John Moran, partner at McGuire Woods,

[00:46:49] said in a statement about this, he's saying, look, this is an absolute blatant violation.

[00:46:56] He's right as rain about this. The National Park Service is way out of line, they say.

[00:47:05] This is the kind of unlawful discrimination and censorship that our founding fathers warned us

[00:47:14] against. First Liberty is helping fight this as well, and good for them for doing so.

[00:47:23] The motion for a temporary restraining order says, hey, it's unconstitutional the way they're being

[00:47:30] treated. It's unnecessary. It's got to stop. Anyway, there you have it. By prohibiting the

[00:47:38] Knights from exercising their religious convictions and expressing their patriotism,

[00:47:46] by praying for and by honoring the fallen through a Catholic mass held inside the cemetery,

[00:47:59] is legitimate. We filed suit against the National Park Service, they say,

[00:48:08] and good for them for doing so. And you think about this, what would the National Park Service

[00:48:12] be involved in opposing Christian religion for? We filed suit against the National Park Service,

[00:48:22] we'll be in court on Thursday. That's today, folks. Please join us in praying for a quick and

[00:48:30] favorable resolution. I love it. That's exactly what we need going on, folks, in America.

[00:48:42] People peacefully pushing back, using prayer, using their First Amendment right to express

[00:48:52] displeasure with this. First Liberty Institute at First Liberty is involved big time to help

[00:48:59] this case move forward. The motion notes that federal policy lumps religious services with

[00:49:08] demonstrations and saying that they could be disruptive. Well, that's the difference,

[00:49:16] ladies and gentlemen, that I highlight all the time about peaceful assembly versus, listen,

[00:49:26] demonstrations or protests. They say that they can be disruptive. But look, a peaceful Catholic

[00:49:36] mass praying over the dead and praying for the living is a good thing. They say it relates to

[00:49:45] demonstrations and bans it on the grounds. So see, we've got to avoid that language of protests,

[00:49:54] of demonstrations, of, okay, we're talking about the First Amendment highlights the right

[00:49:58] to peacefully assemble. And in my opinion, this Catholic mass long historical tradition

[00:50:06] is good. Now, folks, I'm not a Catholic, but they're right. I'm not a Catholic,

[00:50:12] but they have every right to pray over and support the dead and the families that are living

[00:50:17] that have lost loved ones. Okay? And I support the Catholics a thousand percent in this.

[00:50:21] Their right is reign. And this assault by the Biden administration must stop. Thus,

[00:50:27] the stand by the Catholics, by the Knights of Columbus to sue and say, look, you can't do

[00:50:35] this to us is appropriate and necessary. And I hope somebody can do friend of the court briefs

[00:50:42] in this. I just don't have the money or the time or the knowledge or the skills, but somebody

[00:50:46] needs to file a friend of the court brief saying, look, they've done this forever and they have

[00:50:52] every right. All they're doing is praying and having concern for. I think it's awesome.

[00:51:00] And I wish there was a way for me to help. I'd love to travel there and support them in

[00:51:03] this. I just can't. I don't have the money. I don't have the time. I don't have all that it

[00:51:08] takes, but I'd sure like to write. And I think we all should want to do the same.

[00:51:18] We all should get involved in productive ways. And I would hope we would, but we don't seem to

[00:51:26] be willing to do those things. It seems to me, it seems to me like we just want somebody

[00:51:31] else to take care of the problem and solve it. But you Catholics should be proud of this group,

[00:51:39] not only what they've been doing for praying for those who have lost loved ones and praying for

[00:51:46] those who are gone before us and doing this Catholic mass. We should be applauding this

[00:51:52] effort to not only one stand for what's right in the first place and do a good thing,

[00:51:57] but more importantly, to reject the violation of the first amendment and to stand up and sue

[00:52:04] and say, no, Joe, no park service. We're not going to allow you to do this. And we need

[00:52:11] greater numbers on this now. I'm sure the Catholics need funding. I'm sure they need

[00:52:16] support. I'm sure they need national news coverage. I'm here to help provide it because

[00:52:24] I believe that they're right. The Catholics are right on this one and they should be

[00:52:29] commended and thanked and supported. There's a lot of work we can do,

[00:52:34] ladies and gentlemen. I know when you listen to a lot of talk show hosts,

[00:52:37] they make you feel like, hey, there's not much we can accomplish. Well, I submit to you,

[00:52:42] that is an absolute big lie. There's a ton we can do, ladies and gentlemen,

[00:52:48] for the sacred cause of liberty, supporting the Catholics, speaking out, spreading the word,

[00:52:53] letting people know about the stories, calling your members of Congress, involving yourselves

[00:52:57] with the National Taxpayers Union, buying constitutional currency from the folks over at

[00:53:04] I always have to remember this new name they've got here, freewatercoinco.com.

[00:53:10] And you've got a friend in the honest money business by constitutional currency,

[00:53:14] stabilize your portfolio, get involved and call your members of Congress and help the

[00:53:18] National Taxpayers Union. Get involved with this Knights group that's making such a difference

[00:53:24] in standing up and suing the Biden administration over the First Amendment

[00:53:27] and their protections there too. We have got to stand up in all these arenas and there's

[00:53:32] a place for you, my fellow Americans, in this battle. We can peacefully fight and stand

[00:53:38] for what's right and moral and good and honest and true in the culture war.

[00:53:43] You can make popular that which is good and make unpopular that which is evil. In modern society,

[00:53:51] they want to call evil good and good evil. You and I can hold the line and tell the truth.

[00:53:57] And the best news is the truth shall make us free. That's what I'm talking about.

[00:54:07] We got a lot of work to do, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm depending on you. By the

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