Radio Show Hour 2 – 04/15/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, happy to have you along my fellow Americans, Sam Bushman, Sheriff Richard Mack on your radio. This is the broadcast for April the 15th in the year of our Lord, 2025. You know what? It's tax day. You got your taxes filed, Sheriff?

[00:00:43] I am going to plead the fifth on that, Sam. I think they just need to throw you in the clink, buddy. I mean, come on. What the heck is up with you? Yeah, I filed for another extension. Well, here's my question. Donald Trump's all over tariffs, and I support tariffs, although I think they're a congressional responsibility, not a presidential responsibility. So I think Congress needs to get after it. I think they're slow walking.

[00:01:13] I think that Mike Johnson's an enemy to the president. He's slow walking everything Donald wants to do, which is a disgrace. But I look at this and I go, hmm, how come we're so focused on tariffs adding another tax to the American people? And we're not getting rid of the IRS. You know, Donald's kind of hinted at it. But here comes another filing season. Yeah. Right?

[00:01:36] Well, and Mike Johnson has said several things, and the reason I had such hope for defunding Planned Parenthood was because of Mike Johnson, not President Trump. Because Mike Johnson said it during the campaign. And I think right after Trump won that Planned Parenthood was on the list to be chopped.

[00:02:00] And so what has he said since this Congress has now reconvened this year? Kind of crickets, but he was the one bringing it up and did bring it up. And so why they're being so slow and getting rid of this taxpayer problem? Because they love the IRS. That's why.

[00:02:27] You have to make that conclusion, Sam. Anybody would, because Democrats and Republicans alike have done everything they can to keep the IRS there and to keep Planned Parenthood funded. Yeah, man. In fact, our friend, former Congressman Steve Stockman, literally tried to take on Lois Lerner and hold her accountable for attacking conservative organizations. And Steve's gone and Lois was untouched. Right. Right? He went to jail. Steve went to jail. Yeah.

[00:02:56] And Lois was untouched. She was fine. Yeah. She went to Tahiti. And I say that because she went on vacation. She got a retirement and went on vacation. Yeah, I still am amazed that they allowed this to happen. They're examining and investigating the IRS. She was the head of the IRS. And she testified before Congress. She raised her right arm and swore to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. And you already know what a farce that is.

[00:03:26] But she did that. And she goes, I have done nothing wrong. I am pleading the fifth. And I'm resigning. Goodbye. Goodbye. And they actually allowed her to do that. Right. So, no. They should have said, sit down or you're going to be held in contempt. You will answer these questions. You're not under arrest. And you're not going to be arrested.

[00:03:50] We, as your employer, demand that you answer these questions that we're asking. And, no, she just walked away. No? Okay. Okay. And the pleading the fifth does not apply to employee-employer relationships. And there's a case law about that. And so, here we go again. The deep state just runs amok and does what it wants.

[00:04:20] And that was one of our complaints about Trump the first term, his first term. He said he was going to get rid of the deep state. Then he kept appointing deep state people in his cabinet. I would submit that he may have one or two this time as well. But I think that maybe they're not.

[00:04:40] Maybe they're just go-along people like Kristi Noem, who I met in Rapid City, South Dakota, at the Freedom Fest there when CSPOA was very involved in it that year. And, you know, we made a huge splash there, as you well know. But regardless, the true constitutionalists in South Dakota do not like her at all.

[00:05:10] And the farmers that are really fighting for land rights don't like her at all. So, you know, I do know, but I don't understand why she necessarily got so much favor with Trump. But it is simply this. She really campaigned for him. Yeah, that's right. And he's either naive to the deep state or, you know, I don't know if he's part of the deep state. It's hard to say.

[00:05:39] But here's the next headline of interest. Barack Obama and Joe Biden implicated in Russian collusion scheme, according to a bombshell report. I got a question mark on this headline because is it true? Who knows? And secondly, even if it's true, what are you going to do about it? I mean, what's going to happen? There's not going to be any accountability for Joe and Barack. You can't even find out if Barack has a real birth certificate.

[00:06:09] No. Or that he lied about it and that he fabricated one. Even worse. Yeah. You know, so, yeah. No, the buddy system in the deep state, going after them, you can only go so far before you run into brick walls. And maybe that's what's happening to poor Sheriff Jenkins.

[00:06:38] I don't know, but I'm not getting it. But anyway, it's the corruption. And we could call it just that. The corruption of Washington, D.C., whether you call it the deep state or whatever you want to call it, runs so deep. And it runs all the way to your local school board, by the way. Yes, of course.

[00:06:58] Because AOC now is going after Congresswoman Greene, saying that she just bought a bunch of stock in companies right before they passed legislation. Well, AOC didn't complain about Nancy Pelosi, who's done the same damn thing for decades. Yeah, but you've got to understand Greene's not part of the deep state. She can't do that. Yeah, exactly. I mean, come on.

[00:07:25] And both Republicans and Democrats go into Congress with a little money or none, and they come out all multimillionaires. And supposedly Elon Musk and Doge is going to drill into that. I appreciate that. But until figuratives heads roll and people go to prison, it doesn't impress me, Sheriff. Because you're just going to come back and go, oh, yeah, there was a ton of people that got rich. We traced their money. They did it illegally. Now what? They'll be like, so what are you going to do about it?

[00:07:56] Yeah, exactly. So what? Nancy can do that. AOC can do that. Greene can't. Senator Ernst, the lady that always smiles, just showed her supporting an audit on the IRS. And so I'm going, okay. Yeah, but as long as there's no audit, it's a good thing to be on the side of, Sheriff. Yeah.

[00:08:26] Right? When are we going to go into Fort Knox? I thought we were going to roll in there with headlamps and stuff. Well, yeah, that was next on my list. It's not happening. Because they made this huge story about checking the gold. And then we got a story that was going worldwide that bankers were frantically trying to get money back to America. And then all of it dropped. Why? Where? What? Yeah.

[00:08:53] And so just like Patrick Henry said in his famous Give Me Liberty speech, I'm willing to know the truth. The whole truth. I'm willing to know it. And do whatever we have to. Whatever the truth exposes. We're willing to address it and take care of it. So, but they wouldn't even show us how much of the American people's gold is not in Fort Knox anymore.

[00:09:22] And, you know, it makes you very suspicious. You know, we've all been suspicious about Fort Knox, that the gold is not there. Okay? So, what are you going to do about it? And that seems to be the backdrop of the whole show today. We see all these things. You can't do anything about it. Neither can I. Nobody can. Nobody will. Even those who can, won't, or can't. You know, who knows? And, you know, that's the deal.

[00:09:51] And then here's the Lone Ranger. Sometimes the Lone Ranger is Senator Rand Paul. But I've got stuff on him, too. And I've got a little stuff on Tom Massey. Same thing. Tom Massey, a Kentucky congressman, and Rand Paul and Ron, his dad, would do nothing to help Sam Gerard, an innocent Amish farmer that went to prison.

[00:10:20] And got a six-year sentence, but served four and a half years in prison, federal prison, because he made a lotion out of chickweed. Went to prison for that. Yeah. And he never committed a crime in his life. Would Tom Massey do anything about it? No. Not that I know of. I even talked, I sat down next to his wife talking about this. Because she was at a rally with me for Sam Gerard.

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[00:13:07] I'm just telling you, I'm losing faith in that we can never restore the republic with an immoral people. Murdering babies just doesn't end. Barack Obama, Joe Biden implemented, implicated in a Russian scheme. Is that going to take off and have wings like it did on Donald? I doubt it. But now I get an email from Senator Rand Paul begging me for money. Poor Rand's just out of cash. Maybe you ought to go back and be a doctor.

[00:13:35] Anyway, Senator Rand Paul, quote, new bombshell report leads me with more questions for Anthony Fauci. Okay, I support that. I get it. I see what you're saying, Rand.

[00:13:49] But then he says, Sam, a recent military report indicated that seven Americans may have contracted the coronavirus in October 2019 at the World Military Games in Wuhan a few months before the supposed start of the pandemic.

[00:14:10] It's rumored that the virus was making its way around Wuhan for months before the military members even contracted the virus. But to make matters even worse, the Biden administration tried to prevent this information from coming to light. All of this brings about more questions for Anthony Fauci. Did the NIH know about this virus before the Americans caught it in Wuhan?

[00:14:36] Was the pandemic a result of dangerous gain-of-function research? And did the lab leak it? I say the lab released it on purpose. That's my opinion. What did Anthony Fauci know and when did he know it? That's a good question. And then it goes on. Anthony Fauci thought that he'd sail off into the sunset and all would be just fine. He would escape mobility for his role in the pandemic and the COVID cover-up.

[00:15:07] But he says, this is Rand Paul. I have vowed to ensure that he accounts for his actions. I appreciate it, Rand. But Rand can't do anything else except for beg for money for this. He can't get anything done. He can't create an accountability for Anthony Fauci, can he? It doesn't look like it.

[00:15:31] But Rand Paul was the one I work with the most of any politician in Washington, D.C. And Sam, as you'll recall, I went door-to-door to all the offices in Washington, D.C. They're huge. They are so huge that I imagined trying to hit a golf ball from one end of the hallway down to the other because it was so far. They're huge.

[00:16:00] And I thought, well, because I played a little golf, I said, I wonder if this could get, without hitting any sidewalls or doors, that I could hit a golf ball all the way down to the other end. Maybe that was the longest putt in the world. I should notify Guinness World Book of Records. But that's what I imagined walking those halls, Sam.

[00:16:25] But I went to over 85 congressional offices, including Senate and House of Representatives. The only one that invited me back was Charles Schumer. And then he canceled it the next day. Yeah, which is just to make you feel good running around the barn plan. Yeah. It wasn't genuine in the first place, right?

[00:16:50] His staff met with me for a minute just to let me know that Charles Schumer changed his mind. That old Chuckie's too busy for you, sir. But the thing of it is, Sam, Rand Paul was the one who I worked with after that and before. I met with him in person at a fundraiser for a senatorial candidate that he came to stump for out here in Arizona. So I paid the $250 to shake hands with him. I asked him if he knew who I was.

[00:17:19] And he said no. I said, well, Sheriff Mack, Richard Mack, you know, did. Which I don't mean to be rude. If he's in the freedom movement, he doesn't know who Richard Mack is. Because there's something wrong there all by itself, right? Yeah. Because you don't even know his dad. His dad and I are very good friends. But anyway, so I told him who I was real briefly. And I said, and I'm now working with an Amish farmer in your state by the name of Sam Derrod. He's been given six years by Judge Danny C. Reeves.

[00:17:50] And I believe he was appointed by a Republican. But I don't care. They're all corrupt. And I said, so I want your help to get him pardoned and to get him out of there. And I dealt with his head guy, you know, chief of staff. And what the crazy thing of it is, Sam, of all the emails that he and I shared, they all disappeared.

[00:18:20] They're no longer. Right after that, I mean, just a few months later, all of his emails had some sort of tracking deal that they got erased. I don't know if that's a government thing that they did or they did it on their own or even how they do that. I didn't know it could be done, but it happened. And so then they stopped all contact with me as well. But we had for months I was in contact with them. And they gave me, you know, oh, you need to go. You need to contact the Justice Department.

[00:18:50] And they have an office for pardons. I said, I want you guys to do that. They don't. Obviously, no one paid any attention to me. The one that was the rudest to me, Sam, was Senator Jeff Sessions. And his office all but threw me out.

[00:19:11] And I said, I told his staff, I said, just a year ago, your boss asked me to get a bunch of sheriffs there for a press release, press conference for him. And I got about 30 sheriffs there to stand behind him while he was talking about. I don't even remember what he was talking about. And Bunny Welch was one of them.

[00:19:39] Sheriff Bunny Welch from Chester County, Pennsylvania. She was one of them. And there were several others. Jeff Christopher, I believe, was one of them too. So this was some time ago, obviously. And then when I want help for an innocent Amish farmer, they basically were very rude. And I said, so you're basically just telling me to get lost, aren't you? And they just looked down and didn't respond to me.

[00:20:06] And so this is, you know, folks, you want the reality of the wonderful people that represent us and stand for freedom and would not allow the injustices to take place? You can thank Rand Paul and you can thank his dad, Ron Paul, for doing nothing to help an innocent Amish farmer. And you also blame people like Andy Biggs, who is my congressman. He did nothing either.

[00:20:35] And so right now, I certainly hope and pray that this does not happen the same to Sheriff Jenkins. Yeah, and I was thinking about Chuck Jenkins right when I was saying that because he got attacked too. But for some reason, his charges got dropped. And his was gun related. So did Hunter's. Yeah. Hunter's all good. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:21:04] Anyway, I just find it interesting. And I don't mean to be discouraging on the show, ladies and gentlemen, but I do want to be real about this. It's gotten to where, look, at some point, we're just going to have to say America is just going to, at least at the general government level, they're just going to fail. They're too criminal at everything they do. And, you know, everybody hoped Donald could save it. Let's give him a second chance. The first time, hey, he didn't mean to do bad, but he got kind of swamped by the deep state or whatever. You know, his canoe turned over. Give him a second chance. He knows better this time.

[00:21:32] And we're almost, it's the 15th. So we're what, 95 days in, Sheriff, about? Yeah. Close because February doesn't have the right number of days. So it's, anyway, I don't know how many. I'd have to figure it out. But it's 9,500 days. What have we got done? Actually, in a lot of ways, some major happenings. Let's talk about them. Deportation. Okay. So let's talk about deportation for a second. How many people have been deported?

[00:22:02] Thousands. Do you even know how many, though? I don't know if they've come up with it. It seemed like the other day that they came up with another number, say, like 33,000 was mentioned a few weeks ago. But, yeah, I mean. And I appreciate that. But 33,000, if they keep up that pace, I mean, they won't even get the first million gone, much less the 20 million that came in under Joe. However, because of their strict enforcement, it appears that people are self-deporting.

[00:22:30] And I don't know if they'll have any numbers on that. The other great thing is that the bleeding has stopped at the border. That is a great thing. The border is very secure. And sheriffs along the border have mentioned that it is. And border patrol agents who were really discouraged by what Biden was doing are now very complimentary about the president. Yes, now we're safer. Our country is safer.

[00:22:59] People are being prosecuted who have committed crimes, illegal immigrants who have committed crimes. And the, I don't know, the relationship is strained, obviously, with the president of Mexico. But other presidents in Latin American countries have actually joined with Trump, like President Bukele.

[00:23:25] Yeah, and I don't understand why the Mexican relationship is strained, though. No, I don't. Well, I do to an extent because she is too close with the underground in Mexico. She didn't get in there because she was fighting the cartels.

[00:23:46] And as I've told you before, when I talked to college professors all throughout Mexico and asked them, how close is the government to cartels? And they said 100%. They're one and the same, basically, is the problem. She's part of that. Yeah, some are saying we ought to start bombing Mexico. No, no. Yeah, that's what literally Trump and others are kind of saying. They want to basically find the drug cartel strongholds and bomb them.

[00:24:18] Yeah, very interesting indeed. All right, when we get back, I got two news stories about the media that are of interest. One's good, one's bad. How's that? All right, you're listening to Liberty Roundtable Live. Sam Bushman, the good Sheriff Richard Mack. And I don't mean to be negative, ladies and gentlemen, but 100 days in, let's talk about it. There are some good news gains, and we want to highlight those. But, man, for the most part, I think we're just in a big old quicksand scenario. Are we not?

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[00:29:59] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Radio Talk Show. Sam Bushman, Sheriff Richard Mack on your radio.

[00:30:27] We're talking about, you know, the state's just got absolute control. It's crazy. We've got to break through this. And I don't bring this up to trash Donald Trump. I think he's done a lot of good. And we need to recognize that good. The border being one of them. No question about it. Do we need to deport more people? Absolutely. But have we stopped the red of, you know, hey, the invasion? Yes, we've decreased or stopped it significantly. We have experts saying so. We need to deport more for sure. Donald Trump has done some good too. Tariffs are valuable and good.

[00:30:56] We just need to get rid of the IRS though. But I've got two media stories that I find very interesting in light of all this. Again, the media, the new media is taking center stage. Here it is. Look who's joining the team at Salem Media. Matt Vespa over at townhall.com has the piece. And here's the details. Salem Media Group announced a significant new partnership

[00:31:22] with Donald Trump Jr. and Laura Trump. Salem acquired a 30% stake in Donald Trump's, or Donald Trump's JR's, what they call this thing, MXM News, which I'm not really caught up on the MXM News yet,

[00:31:47] but MXM News, and they entered a long-term partnership with him focused on taking conservative media into the next era. I think it's pretty cool. Salem Media is positioned to become the home for fearless, unapologetic conservative talk content, if you will, says Donald Trump Jr. I'm excited to help grow its audience,

[00:32:18] and I'm ready to push back against legacy media with reality and authenticity. Salem Media, they're really growing. And now they've basically added Donald Trump Jr. and Laura to the mix, not to mention Charlie Kirk and Larry Elder and Mike Gallagher, and I can keep going, Dennis Prager. I mean, they're building a juggernaut with their news, their text news, if you will. In other words, the news website, with their talk radio,

[00:32:47] with their videos, with their townhall.com. I mean, it just, this is getting huge as the new media starts to take center stage. That's a good news piece, in my humble opinion, because instead of having clowns like The View, you're going to have people like Donald Trump Jr. and Laura Trump and others bringing the news to you. Now, are they perfect? No, but will they do way better than what we've seen? Without question, Sheriff. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's definitely good news.

[00:33:16] And, you know, conservative talk is making a huge, maybe comeback, since the Biden administration put so many clamps on them. So, yeah, great. I would really hope that Liberty Roundtable will expand also, and gain notoriety and listenership. And I think that my show,

[00:33:45] called the CSPOA webinar, we need to change that to a podcast and invite everybody to come in, listen. Right now, it's just CSPOA posse members. I'd like to make it much bigger than that. And anybody who wants to come in, let them come in. But I don't think that needs to be a benefit for people who pay for membership. Yeah, just so people understand, there's a webinar right now where you're joined by Zoom.

[00:34:14] You can listen to us. We put up videos and texts and things you can see on the screen, and then you can basically chat with us. Sheriff Mack and Jack usually do the show. Sometimes I fill in. And it's really kind of a way that the posse can get guidance and direction and support from the CSPOA literally weekly. Yeah, I'd like to see that expand. And so I'll be discussing that with you. Yeah, the best way to make it expand is to keep doing the video part

[00:34:44] because you can show things on the screen and it's pretty neat. And then all we got to do is hook Zoom to YouTube and get it on YouTube and then rumble and stuff like that. That's where we need to go. Right. Anyway, there's a lot that we can do for that. I just found it great, though, that Donald Trump Jr. and Laura Trump are going to be with Salem News. That's huge, in my opinion. The next piece of good news, if you will, it's kind of bad news, good news, just depends on which part we're focusing on. Headline, Congress to decide fate of NPR

[00:35:12] and PBS funding, Sheriff. Trump administration officials want legislators to rescind $1.1 billion for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which provides some support for the public media. Anyway, they say they're going to do their very best to defund this thing. And my question is, do you think Congress will actually get something done? It says Congress is going to decide the fate. That doesn't mean

[00:35:42] they're going to shut it down. They're just going to look into it. I really need to see Congress do something here. Why am I trying to build my own media service at my own expense? And I'm funding PBS and National Public Radio and I'm funding the other side to compete against me, Sheriff. Yeah, that's, Sam, the government has no business. I mean, that's almost trite to say that. But it's an absolute absurdity that taxpayer dollars fund

[00:36:11] PBS, NPR, and that's not our job. That's not the role of government, let alone the proper role of government. It's not even close to being any type of role for government to get involved in. And so why don't they fund CSPOA and any other organization? Or Liberty News Radio or whatever. Now, here's the interesting detail. When you dig down into the story, here's what it says. Trump's asking Congress to get this done. If Congress decides to defund it,

[00:36:41] then it'll be defunded. If Congress decides to keep the funding in place, Donald will be forced to spend the money. Well, hopefully he'll veto any of that and then to overwrite his veto would be very difficult. Possible, yes, but still very difficult. So I don't know. I just... Government just doesn't understand. Good ideas and good intentions are not their business,

[00:37:10] not their job, not their prerogative. Oh, this is a good idea. Okay, let's do it. I believe they've actually funded NAACP as well, but... Of course they have. But the reason I'm praising the Trump administration on this one is because instead of Trump discreeting executive order or letting Doge or something do it, which, you know, every bit of that's being challenged, Trump administration officials want Congress, want legislators to rescind this money. That's the right way to go about it.

[00:37:38] Now where's Mike Johnson to deliver, Sheriff? Yeah, for sure. Well, he's... Yeah, it's... A lot of it is in his hands, so no question about that. Hope they get going on that. But if Congress doesn't understand what their role is or even what form of government we have, democracy, if they don't understand those two principles, then they're never going to return us to the constitutional republic

[00:38:08] that the founders had established. Well, if they don't go into Fort Knox and see if the gold's there and move us to a constitutional currency, we're done too. The fix is in. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's just a matter of time. Anyway, all I can tell you is I pray that Congress will stop the spending of government money, our tax dollars, 1.1 billion for government media. It's got to stop, people. It's just got to stop. All right. All right. Kevin Roberts,

[00:38:37] he's got a PhD and he's the president of the Heritage Foundation, Sheriff. And he issued a new interesting headline. The deep state is laughing at you, he says. Yeah. Deep state's laughing at you. I think he's right about that. And then he says this. There's a bombshell report out of the Daily Signal that just confirmed what we've long feared. Nearly half of Washington, D.C.'s federal workforce

[00:39:06] has vowed to resist the Trump-Vance administration. What do you think of that? Nearly half of D.C.'s federal workforce has vowed to resist the Trump-Vance administration. How can you work with the government and say I'm just 50% of the people are just flat out saying we're going to oppose our boss? Yeah.

[00:39:36] That was pretty iffy. And I'd actually... What do you mean it's iffy? What are you going to do about it, Sheriff? Well, right after I take care of Sheriff Jenkins, if that ever materializes, I'm just so discouraged about that. And so then I'll have to add this to my list because really top of my list still is defund Planned Parenthood. And so how do we get

[00:40:05] rid of something that is so evil like that and yet even the churches don't unite against that horrible criminal... Problem is their tax exempt status might go away, Sheriff. That's the deal. Can't be tampering with that. Good. You don't need permission from government to do that. That's already guaranteed. You know, they don't need... That politicians... That's just part of the corruption, Sam. That politicians

[00:40:34] can play that like a football passing it around. No. No. That's wrong. Out of the question. No way. All right. Hang tight, ladies and gentlemen. Doctor... I'm sorry. Sheriff Richard Mack with me. CSPOA.org. You're listening to Liberty Roundtable Live. This April 19th, you're invited to a powerful celebration of American courage

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[00:43:03] All right, I got an email from Joseph Lipp. Who's that guy you made ask? Well, he's the CEO of Live Action. And he says this, we can finally defund Planned Parenthood If We Act Now. Joseph Lipp, liveaction.org. I really like this headline. I think it's great. I hope we can get it done. I pray he's correct. He says this, did you know

[00:43:33] that Planned Parenthood receives nearly $700 million in taxpayer funding every year? Every year. last year alone, ladies and gentlemen, they murdered 392,715 pre-born lives last year alone, Sheriff. Yeah, the numbers are staggering, Sam. And so he says the killing must stop.

[00:44:02] Infanticide continues. Thank you, United States Congress. Now, let me be very clear. America's churches. Let me be very clear. I agree that America's churches are the problem. Congress is the problem. But President Trump has really done his best to stand for pro-life. He's one of the first presidents that has ever gone to any pro-life events or, you know, at least a January event, the big pro-life events. Okay. He's also then, as far as I understand, put some executive orders in on the Mexico Accord or whatever it is where we fund

[00:44:33] abortions internationally. He stopped that. Biden put it back. Trump stopped it again. He's really done his best in many ways with an executive order saying, hey, you know, we're not going to be funding Planned Parenthood and different things. But the problem is Mike Johnson and Congress is just slow walking everything Trump's trying to do. That's what I mean. I'm not trying to beat up on Trump. I just think the deep state's got too much control when 50% of the employees literally go, we're going to oppose you at every turn, boss.

[00:45:02] Then you kind of go, whoa, we're in some deep doo-doo, Sheriff. Yeah. Yeah. Sam, you mentioned that you didn't want to be just totally negative today and I feel the same way. But in reality, Sam, there's so many horrible things going on and if we cannot stop the killing

[00:45:32] of such innocent, precious life, then really, I say the rest of it is immaterial. You know, I'm glad that's happening at the border but the evil of forcing taxpayer dollars to this murderous organization and then we go to jail if we stop paying that money. No, Sam, that is the epitome of evil.

[00:46:02] It is wrong. but it's not about to go away, is it? It doesn't appear at this point it doesn't appear that it's getting much traction. So, that's why I'm going to get that email ready for my church leaders and that's why I still want to meet with you and Dr. Bradley and go to Salt Lake City and have a press conference about it and I'm willing to take that stand and I think we need to move forthwith

[00:46:32] on that and be counted on the side of people who are standing for life and for God and for the many untold deaths of innocent precious babies. Amen to that. I got good news though, Sheriff. Ready for it? Headline says Crook yells at witness. Hey old man, get the blank

[00:47:01] the F star star out of here or else I'll shoot you. Problem is old man's a concealed carry guy. The blaze has this piece and I guess it talks about in Chicago these thugs were creating a carjacking and this man basically said he's going to stop it so the gunman quickly began firing but so did the old man because he had his concealed carry permit. Yeah, he's a valid firearm owner had his concealed permit

[00:47:32] he drew his weapon and he shot he said I moved as fast as I could I returned fire and the neighborhood cell phone I guess a neighbor's cell phone captured the suspects ducking behind a car amid the shootout so anyway then they got into Alexis fled the scene but the bottom line is hey it's not clear if the two males that were the criminal got wounded

[00:48:03] but the concealed carry guy was hitting the leg but he stopped them and he ran them off sheriff and this is a story that the blaze is willing to tell you but the mainstream press isn't willing to touch it of course yeah the lying media that covers up so much stuff like that Sam just is so astonishing the subterfuge I remember Wolf Blitzer once said and we will continue at CNN to report the news

[00:48:33] fairly and honestly and expose the truth and that is such a lie it's so agenda and political partisanship that drives CNN and Fox also just the opposite but you know but it is astonishing what I told my high school students watch five minutes of CNN and five minutes of Fox and hopefully get the

[00:49:03] same story or no story Fox is telling the story and CNN will not even ever touch the same stories that Fox is talking about why now your report to me is to tell me why and I think that's a legitimate question to ask everybody on our show today on your show today and everyone should know the answer to that and you'll run into one thing corrupt

[00:49:32] media dishonest criminal media and that kind of destroys the people to be notifying us as to what is really going on and they're part of the corruption yeah now one good thing that I hear is Congress is supposed to be working on a you know retroprocity across the country where you can you know have your concealed carry

[00:50:02] weapon available I get it I'm just saying they're saying hey Congress has got to come out and do something and I'm not saying they do I'm just saying at least there's some effort to roll back some of the Biden gun control I don't want to call them laws because they're not pretend legislation or whatever you want to call it and at least Trump's working on that too so again I'm that are enemies of Trump and they're the ones basically bogging

[00:50:32] down his agenda I don't agree with everything Trump's doing either but a lot of it I would say hey unless the people start to get literally involved I don't see Trump being successful not because he's not right on a lot of issues but because the deep state is literally setting him down and we the people aren't doing anything about it right but one thing I want all our listeners to understand Sam you don't have to get the real ID driver's

[00:51:02] license you can use your passport your passport is fine they even said that but now they're kind of having some problems with the passport and that's kind of been up there too and Senator Ernst the lady that always smiles and looks kind of weird because she never stops smiling she actually wants the IRS to account for why they spent tens of millions of dollars on firearms and ammunition the last several years which I

[00:51:45] I pray we get something done about it and I pray we take action and everything else I got a good news piece for the end of the hour sheriff you ready for it you bet headline says 81 year old waitress couldn't afford to retire so a stranger raised over $300,000 so she could retire tell him you do that for me all I'm saying is I think it's very cool and I agree we need more pay it forward we need more of that kind of stuff

[00:52:15] but I'm just saying that's a start at least that's good news that's a pay it forward like I've never got stuff like that

[00:52:45] and more power to her and God bless her but I think I'm going to be waiting tables when I'm 81 you said she was 81 right yeah man 81 years old and all I'm saying is that hey you know what just because it hasn't happened to me I'm glad it's happened to somebody else the reason I bring it up is because sometimes you get cars because then you won't have to have an old

[00:53:15] man shoot at you don't do that but do if you have the money or the ability to help someone retire or help pay it forward to somebody or whatever else those are good things and we need more of them that's why I'm bringing them bunch you're starting to get a

[00:53:45] juggernaut of news buddy of truth tellers that are better than most by a long shot well man what a great two hours all right well I appreciate your time sheriff and we always need people to be part of the CSPOA let's strategize on see how we can't make that webinar available to everybody turn it into a podcast spread the word share the love that's what we got to do all the time and when it comes to the CSPOA posse event really it's it's a reach out

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