Radio Show Hour 2 – 02/24/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard-hitting news the network refused to use, no doubt, continues now. This is the broadcast for February the 24th in the year of our Lord, 2025. This is Hour 202, Promoting God, Family, and Country,

[00:00:40] protecting life, liberty, and property in the traditions of our Founding Fathers. It's who we are and what we do. We reject revolution unless it's a Jesus revolution. Then we're in because we follow the Prince of Peace. And remember, ladies and gentlemen, the checks and balances brilliantly put in place by the Founding Fathers so that you and I have a seat at the table. We better start using them and fast. Welcome to the broadcast. Low Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org is with me. Welcome back to the broadcast, sir. Wow. Great to be back, Sam.

[00:01:08] Thank you for having me on this Liberty Roundtable live. Before we get to the topics that you've laid out here, incredible stuff, by the way, I want to just highlight one little tidbit, get your take. Headline says this, House advances budget plan to fund Trump's full agenda. Buyyournews.com. I don't know how I feel about this. I don't like this. Okay.

[00:01:36] They say that they're set to vote on a resolution allocating trillions to support Trump's policies while the Senate pushes an alternative plan. Do you want to respond to this? To me, this is a disgrace. Lowell? Yeah. Well, it depends what Trump's full plan is. I mean, but that sounds pretty grandiose. And anybody that, you know, with an ego as big as Trump's, I'd be worried.

[00:02:06] Because if you want to, you know, fund this whole plan, boy, I just don't know. Plus the fact that legislature, meaning the Congress, really should set the budget, not the president. You know, but the president might have some wishes on a wish list, but it's really the Congress, really the U.S. House that's only part of Congress. The U.S. House is really one responsible for spending money. All revenue bills shall originate in the U.S. House, for example.

[00:02:35] That's in our Constitution. And so when presidents come along and ask for their wish list, I just don't think that's the right direction, the right thing to take. I think Congress, their U.S. House specifically, should be the one setting the budget, Sam. Well, and my problem with this whole thing, and the reason I spend time on it right now, is if Trump is really, with Doge, reducing government, reducing government, reducing government,

[00:03:01] why do we need to approve trillions out of the gate with a single omnibus, massive, they call it a big, beautiful spending bill? Why do we got to do that? Why can't we just say, hey, while we cut on the bloated side through Doge and through cutting U.S. AID, et cetera, et cetera, we're going to go ahead and pass little piecemeal bills that literally fund the proper role of limited government. And on both ends of this, we're going to work towards the middle. Now, I mean, isn't that like an intelligent plan? Yeah, I think so, Sam.

[00:03:29] I think that's what I would do if I were in the U.S. House. Yep. So anyway, I just look at this and I just go, boy, by the time we spend trillions under Trump, I really don't understand it. Anyway, the reason I brought this up is because it relates directly to what Ron Paul is writing about as well, Lowell. And I think the two are absolutely hand in hand. Oh, I agree. You know, two Thursdays ago, President Trump said, quote,

[00:03:55] one of the first meetings I want to have is with President Xi of China and President Putin of Russia. And I want to say, let's cut our military budget in half, end of quote. Now, of course, the warmongers who work in the Beltway back there in the District of Criminal, they shrieked in despair at this, at Trump's suggestion that there was no reason for the U.S. to be spending a trillion dollars on defense.

[00:04:20] I mean, chopping that in half to spend only $500 billion on defense? I mean, we'd still be at the very top of the list in terms of spending for defense. And most of that, by the way, is not on traditional defense, by the way. I mean, it's very offensive what they're spending for, meaning where it's not just purely for defense, the funds that the defense defensive funds are spent on.

[00:04:49] So anyway, Ron Paul wrote this. He said with this statement, President Trump blew up one of the biggest myths of our time. So kudos to him for that, basically. Continuing his quote, he says, particularly among Republicans, that spending more on the military is essential to keeping us safe. There is a vast and well-funded network of political and industrial interests that depend on maintaining that myth from the weapons manufacturers to the mainstream media

[00:05:19] to the think tanks and beyond. Why? Let's go. Yeah, because most of what is called defense spending has very little to do with defending this country and a lot to do with enriching the politically well-connected. End of quote. So, Sam, you remember we discussed this last week when we were talking about Joel Salatin's column describing what really happens when the U.S. gives foreign aid to other countries.

[00:05:47] We observed that, you know, when we give commodities, then we cripple the native producers of those commodities in that country because they cannot sell to people, you know, who are getting commodities from the U.S. for free, right? They can't. If you're getting something from free, you're not going to buy it, you know, from somebody else. And so we cripple the commodities producers in that country when we give them our free commodities.

[00:06:13] And then when we give them money, then the U.S. corporate world flocks to that country and basically sells their goods and services to that country, which simply enriches the corporations. It's basically a transfer of wealth from U.S. taxpayers to big corporate interests in the United States. It's a transfer payment. So, you know, when we – so this foreign aid, you know, just like we discussed last week, foreign aid to other countries –

[00:06:40] It's an unconstitutional international theft of money. Mm-hmm. Absolutely right. And so foreign aid, defense spending, yeah, very little difference in the effect that it has on the countries that we claim to help. And it reminds me of what Ronald Reagan said, the nine most terrifying words in the English language are, quote, I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Right? Yeah, just leave me the heck alone.

[00:07:08] But the good news about all this, ladies and gentlemen, and this is why I would basically cut on the doge side from the top, and then on the bottom or whatever you want to say, the simpler plan, I would have Congress pass single issues, one item, vote up, vote down bill so you can see who's for and against certain things. And I would start with only constitutional government. And the reason why is if you have this big omnibus spending bill, you might spend a bunch of money on things that doge would cut if you get ahead of doge, if you will. That's a disaster. Okay?

[00:07:37] So understand, thanks to doge, we're learning what's really going on, Lowell. Well, I'll say – and there's a column by Chris Rossini posted at ronpaulinstitute.org that illustrates this very fact. He observes, first of all, that we Americans have become what we seceded from. Meaning the British Empire. One of the complaints against King George III in the Declaration of Independence says, quote,

[00:08:01] quote, he has erected a multitude of new offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. End of quote. So we broke free from British tyranny only to create our own. You know, much worse than before. That's the bad news. But the good news here is that doge is exposing one fraud after another. Yep, yep. Why? But then he gets to the real cause of the problem.

[00:08:28] He asks, why all this fraud, waste, and corruption? Is it because of the bureaucracy? Well, it's here that Rossini makes a very insightful comment. He says the bureaucracy is not the cause. It's the symptom. Or it's the effect, right? He says, quote, bureaucracy is the result of not following the U.S. Constitution. End of quote. So exactly what you've been saying, Sam. Triple amen to that, sir. Yeah.

[00:08:55] If we just follow the blueprint for liberty, then we would find liberty. We would have liberty. And so then he asks the question, why haven't we followed that blueprint? Well, it's because the people, that's you and me, Sam, and our fellow citizens, we don't care. For the most part. Politicians pander to voters and they promise unconstitutional things. Voters who want something for nothing vote for such politicians.

[00:09:23] That is the heart and the soul of this column, Sam. And he observes that, yeah, this is our human nature coming out. It's the base part of our human nature that only a small percentage of people are able to resist. We all like free stuff, he says. In order for the politician to deliver the unconstitutional stuff to voters, new offices are created and new people are hired to do the things that should not be done in the first place. End of quote. Yeah.

[00:09:51] So who's to blame for our fall from the peace of liberty into the slavery of tyranny? It's us, folks. We the people. We are responsible for our own demise. And so even after Doge trims the fat out of government, you know, even if they cut one or two trillion dollars, you know, out of spending this calendar year, will we be safe? Well, yeah, Chris Rossini doesn't think so.

[00:10:17] He says, no, we will not be safe unless we populate Congress with statesmen like, well, actually, I said this. He didn't say this. Unless we populate Congress with statesmen like Larry McDonald of Georgia, Ron Paul of Texas, and Thomas Massey of Kentucky. But how likely is that, right? I'm asking that question. Not very likely. And so what can be done? Well, Rossini has an answer, which I like, fam. We'll talk about it in seconds, ladies and gentlemen.

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[00:13:04] This is Lowell Nelson here on Liberty Roundtable Live Writing Shotgun with your host, Sam Bushman. We've been talking about this great column by Chris Rossini posted at ronpaulinstitute.org where he talks about even though Doge trims the fat out of government, he says, will we be safe, right? I mean, that's a big, big question. Well, yeah, we're not going to be safe unless we turn to the answer that Rossini posits here. And the answer is sound money.

[00:13:33] Quote, politicians are able to promise unconstitutional stuff to garner votes because the Federal Reserve will counterfeit new dollars to pay for it. Without a counterfeiter, the politician is hogtied. Hogtied politicians cannot promise whatever they want for votes anymore. From 1913 to this very day, we've been living with the philosophy of, well, the Fed can just print the money. The Fed, which is itself unconstitutional,

[00:14:03] has financed the monster that Doge is trying to slay. The counterfeiting must end, or bureaucracy will continue to be America's ball and chain. End of quote. Boy, Sam, I love this column because it really identifies the nuts and bolts reason that the U.S. has a monstrous bureaucracy today. $36 trillion in debt with very little hope of recovery in sight. But if we'll do what Ron Paul suggested we do,

[00:14:32] which is to audit the Fed and then end the Fed, then we will have some real hope for a restoration of our republic. Sam? Sam? Sorry, say that again, Lowell? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. You cut out this for a second. Yeah, if we will audit the Fed and then end the Fed, as Ron Paul and others have been suggesting for years, then we will really have some real hope for a restoration of our republic.

[00:15:01] Well, sound money is really the key. And what people don't understand is when we talk about chaining men down with the Constitution, these are some of the things we're talking about. Look, if you have dishonest money that you can just print, there's no end to the mischief you can create. That's not chaining them down with the Constitution, okay? But when you look at this reality check and you look at what's been happening with taxpayers' money, we've been lied to forever, ladies and gentlemen. And I appreciate Doge cutting the bureaucracy,

[00:15:31] but again, we need to go back to sound money, okay? Sound money can bury this thing. Good money can chase out bad money. And sound money backed by constitutional currency or honest weights and majors, as the Bible describes it, really can make the difference here. And that's what people don't understand. So when I'm criticizing Congress because the House wants to just back all of Donald Trump's plans, on one hand, Donald says he's cutting everything. I appreciate that. But then why do we just need to have one omnibus,

[00:15:59] big, beautiful spending bill and spend trillions? Why don't we go back and say, wait a minute, let Doge find all the problems and shut that down. For the proper rule of constitutional government. And let's go ahead and audit and end the Fed. Let's go ahead and dig into Fort Knox and find out what's really there. Let's just start with accountability and truth on the table. And then let's say, hey, the best way to chain these clowns down isn't to agree to spend Trump's trillions.

[00:16:28] The reality is let's put the Federal Reserve back in the closet, shut it down, get rid of it. And then let's have honest money force the real straightening out of the system. It will by its very nature. Chris is right on this, Lowell. As right as rain, Sam, because in the beginning, of course, the general government had only the money that the states sent to the general government, right?

[00:16:54] I mean, you had the 13 states and they would, well, actually it came from imports and tariffs on stuff that came into the country, right? And so that's the only money that the general government had to spend. And so if they don't have any other way to spend money, then they are restricted, right? They're hogtied according to using Chris Rossini's language.

[00:17:22] They're hogtied because they can't do anything if they don't have the money to spend. And if they only have money obtained from tariffs, then that's the size of government. And government today would be less than a hundredth of its current size. If we had followed the blueprint of liberty all of these years, these 200 years we've been a country, had we followed that pattern from the very beginning up until the present day, then we wouldn't hardly even notice the federal government.

[00:17:51] They would be so small, Sam. Amen. And we need to understand that, again, if we were to put them on the constitutional currency of the founders, that would be chaining them down with the Constitution. They would have limited money they could spend. It wouldn't be just a question of, hey, do we want to spend this or vote to spend this or whatever else? It would be like, no, like your family, you would have a reality check on the funds that you have. And that's what we don't have. The bureaucracy is not the cause. It's a symptom of the cause.

[00:18:20] We're learning what's going on with taxpayer money, ladies and gentlemen. We've been lied to. We've been lied to for decades, which is the primary problem, right? We need an audit of all federal agencies. None should be untouched. And that's where we need to start with this thing. Look, we've become what we've seceded from when it comes to King George, Lowell. Yeah, we certainly have. We have, you know, we didn't like the tyranny of King George,

[00:18:46] so we independently formed, you know, our own sovereign states here. We put together a compact. We worked together on this. And now that government, that general government, has grown so big and its reach has extended so far that the bureaucracy and the tyranny under which we live today is worse than that under which the colonists lived in the late 1700s, Sam.

[00:19:17] The good news, though, is that Doge is exposing it. The question is, when we the people know about it, in other words, when we correct the lies, will we demand a change? Will we demand accountability? And right now I don't see it. Right now I see everybody going, yeah, Doge is going to give me a big old dividend payment of up to five grand. Elon's pushing for it. The Donald's talking about it. And man, wouldn't that be great if I got $5,000 in my account? And the answer is no. We're 36 plus trillion dollars in debt. Now, I agree it's fake debt. So we can abolish it with an executive order probably.

[00:19:47] Just, you know, demand by executive order. We're going to create one big coin. It's worth $37 trillion. We'll give you guys just a little extra to pay it back. We'll give you this coin and we're out of your debt. You can say, well, Sam, you can't do that. Yeah, they created it with fraud. You can just shut it down as well. But look, this author observes that we, the American people, have become what we seceded from. One of the complaints about King George III is, hey, you know what, he's eating out our substance. He directed a multitude of new offices,

[00:20:16] sends a swarm of officers to eat out our substance and everything else. We broke free from the British tyranny, but only to create our own much worse than before. That's the bad news. The good news is Doge is exposing it. And the question is, what will the American people do with the truth, Lowell? Boy, howdy. You're right, Sam. And, you know, obviously I'm happy with what Doge is doing. I'm delighted. And I think that they will expose a lot of fraud, waste, and corruption. And I do believe that there will be some agencies shut down.

[00:20:45] There will be a lot of workers laid off. And hopefully they'll go find jobs in the private sector and become more productive. I think we're going to find a lot of this money has been going to dead people, you know, to people, you know, I mean, live people, but using the names of people who have since passed died, right? I mean, I saw this headline the other day, Sam, it said there are more people, I mean, there are more active Social Security accounts than we have people in the United States. What's that tell you?

[00:21:15] That's kind of like the voter rolls, my friend. Yeah, exactly. We've got a lot of fraud going on. And hopefully Doge can sniff this out and put a stop to it. You know, so I'm happy about that. But I'm telling you that, you know, in the long run, four years from now, you know, nothing's going to change unless we return to sound money, just like Chris Rossini said and like Ron Paul's been saying for years.

[00:21:40] Well, I know Elon Musk, Mike Lee, Charlie Kirk, of all three floated Ron Paul to be the head of the Fed so that he can go ahead and, you know, bring truth to power on this sucker. I would support them 100%. I'm just waiting for Donald to give the nod. What's going on, Don? If you want to move fast, pop that dude into the mix and see how the liberals react to that. Oh, that would be totally awesome. I really hope that happens, comes to pass, you know.

[00:22:09] He's not the Secretary of the Treasury, but, boy, he could certainly, you know, get in there and cut some fat. He knows where all the fat is. I mean, he worked in the general government for 24 years or so as a congressman, so he knows where all the, you know, where we should be looking for the fraud, waste, and abuse. So, yeah, absolutely, Sam. All right.

[00:22:37] When we come back, I want to talk about this incredible article, how USAID assisted the, quote, corporate takeover of Ukraine's agriculture. John Clark with the piece, and it's a riveting piece. And I want to dig into this because, you know, Lowell has been saying for the last several weeks on the radio, and I concur with him 100%, all this money that goes to USAID or goes overseas, it creates problems, folks. When we bring all this new farming equipment in,

[00:23:06] they don't know how to use it. It's too expensive to operate. They eventually say that's just not helpful at all. And what happens is we sell a bunch of, you know, just simply put, say, new plows to these foreign entities. And then, hey, the American or whatever corporations, international corporations get rich because they sold all these things. But they're not helping at all. In fact, they're just displacing the farmer, making it harder for farm workers and people on the ground to do things. And we've got to stop this.

[00:23:36] USAID is at the core of so much pain and suffering around the world. It's not even funny. And we, as ignorant Americans, cloak this as, oh, my gosh, think how ambivalent we are. We're just sending money, all these places, helping out. I mean, after all, when much is given, much is required, by golly, we've been blessed in America. We're the breadbasket of the world. We've got to go ahead and, no, that's not the way it works. That's forced stealing, theft from my family wallet,

[00:24:07] forcing it to USAID. Unconstitutional as all get out, wreaking havoc around the world. Now, true, terrible solutions are the answer. We'll talk about that, too, coming back. You're listening to Liberty Roundtable Live with Lowell Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org, and yours truly on your radio.

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[00:30:12] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, this is Lowell Nelson, riding shotgun this morning with your host, Sam Bushman, here on the Liberty Roundtable Live. Sam gave a great introduction, overview of this column by John Klar,

[00:30:38] describing how USAID has helped with the corporate takeover of agriculture in Ukraine and many other countries, and just started decades ago. The USAID's clandestine imaginations have long focused on controlling local and global food supplies. As soft colonization by multinational chemical, agricultural, and financial corporations, European farmers revolting against climate, wildlife, and animal rights policies

[00:31:07] are harbingers of this tightening globalist noose. The roots of the current globalist plan to save humanity from climate change linked directly to the infamous Kissinger report, which called to control world food supplies and agricultural as part of a globalist collaboration between nation states and NGOs to advance U.S. national security interests and save the world from human overpopulation using fertility reduction technologies.

[00:31:37] Kissinger's 1974 report was created by USAID, the CIA, and various federal agencies, including the USDA, end of quote. And so, you know, fast forwarding now to the Iraq War of 2003, which was justified by claims of the existence of weapons of mass destruction, along with a bunch of lies about the need to rescue the Iraqi people,

[00:32:01] quote, the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq became a rapacious profiteering smorgasbord for colonizing corporations husbanded by USAID. Iraq is heir to the birthplace of human civilization made possible by early Mesopotamian agricultural. Many of the grains, fruits, and vegetables that now feed the world were developed there, period.

[00:32:28] Iraq's farmers saved back 97% of their seed stocks from their own harvests before the U.S. invasion of 2003. Under Paul Brimmer, Rule 81 never fully implemented, sought to institute GMO cropping and patented seed varieties as Car Deal, Monsanto, and other corporations descended upon the war-ravaged nation

[00:32:53] using American tax dollars and USAID, end of quote. And so Clark, I mean, this article is just packed full of great information. He goes on to say this playbook was really quietly implemented during the Ukraine war, once again orchestrated by USAID. Well, let me just quote this again. He says, before the Russian invasion in February of 2022, Ukraine was the breadbasket of Europe,

[00:33:21] prohibiting GMO technologies and restricting land ownership to Ukrainians. Within months of U.S. intervention, USAID assisted in the dismantling of these protections in the name of land reforms, free markets, financial support, improved agricultural efficiency, and rescuing the Ukrainian people.

[00:33:44] In just two years, over half of Ukraine's farmland became the property of foreign investors. GMO seeds and drone technology were donated by Bayer Corporation and companies such as GMO seed seller Syngenta and German chemical manufacturer BASF. They became the dominant agricultural stakeholders in war-torn Ukraine.

[00:34:10] Yes, Russia may withdraw, but Ukraine's foreign debts, soil degradation, and soft colonization will remain. End of quote. Holy mackerel, Sam, this is sobering information. I mean, this war must have been about a lot more than just the Russian, so-called Russian invasion. I mean, the breadbasket of Europe, now taken over by corporate interests,

[00:34:37] who are now injecting GMO seeds and chemical fertilizers and stuff. I mean, basically, they're destroying the area of the world that fed Europe, basically. You know, Clark goes on to say, Americans watch European farmers protest from afar, largely oblivious to the fact that most of all,

[00:35:02] most all of U.S. agriculture was absorbed by the big ag Borg generations ago. Currency control linked to a social credit scorecard promises the fruition of Kissinger's demonic plan. Control the food, control the people. Yeah, that plan from 1974, Sam. Control the food, then you control the people.

[00:35:26] Well, it's happened here in the United States, and this Ukraine-Russian war apparently was the way to make it happen in Ukraine, to take over the food production capital of Europe. And so now they're going to hogtie Europe, and just the same way they've hogtied America, Sam?

[00:35:46] I think we're in dire straits that we just don't realize how dire the food production system is, you know, to us. I think most people live by going to the grocery store and buying their food from grocery stores, and that's a recipe for disaster. If that chain went when and if that food distribution chain breaks down, then there's going to be a lot of people hurting, Sam, big time.

[00:36:16] Well, we've got the same thing happening via USAID around the world, but the same thing happens domestically as well. And there's a movie actually made about the harassment of American farmers and ranchers. They're trying to shut them all down in exchange for, hey, corporate control and ownership of land. And oftentimes it's not even American ownership. It's common as Chinese ownership or it's Bill Gates' ownership of land or whatever else. There's a movie about this called The Great Pocatello Land Grab Movie.

[00:36:46] The question is, have you seen it? Anyway, if you want to learn more, go to wjustice.org. But for some teaser details, Lowell has got them for us. Lowell? Because, yes, Vicki and I went to Pocatello last week, the President's Day weekend, to visit family up there. For folks that don't know, Pocatello is a city in Idaho, southeastern Idaho.

[00:37:12] And it's where ISU is, Idaho State University. It's where the mini dome is, one of the first mini domes in the country. Anyway, Pocatello, Idaho. So it's surrounded by a lot of farmland, and there's two farms or ranches, one owned by the Rupp family and one owned by the Hart family. And so Vicki and I, we saw this movie with family last weekend. It's called The Great Pocatello Land Grab.

[00:37:40] And this really is a local manifestation of the global problem that we've just been discussing, where government forces farmers and ranchers off of their property, binding them in ways that prevent their productive use of the land. So they can't water it. They can't harvest it. They can't, you know, graze cattle on it. I mean, it's sickening.

[00:38:00] The website that Sam just gave you, wjustice.org, says this, corruption, collusion, and greed are exposed as two generational ranching families in southeast Idaho fight against the complex web of institutionalized fraud and racketeering to save their land. Investigators, lawyers, and family friends work together to bring this story to light.

[00:38:27] And I might say, Sam, this movie that we saw is the first of four. Apparently it's a docu-series. It would be four parts. We saw part one. And it blows your socks off just watching the first part. It features, like I said, the Rupp and the Hart families who live right near Pocatello. They reached out to Western Justice. That's the website, wjustice.org, Western Justice.

[00:38:53] They call themselves the NRA of the Western lifestyle, right? Anyway, these two families, they reached out to Western Justice for help with their land rights issues. And the president of Western Justice, his name is Duquet, Duquet, Duquet, Duquet maybe? I don't know how to say it's a French name. Thinks it made the biggest RICO and racketeering situation in his lifetime. Boy, it's a fascinating documentary, Sam.

[00:39:19] In fact, it really hits close to home, Sam, because my roots, as you know, are in a 400-acre ranch farm in the mountains of Idaho near the city of Salmon. That's where I grew up. That's where I put in, you know, two decades of my life, my blood, sweat, and tears. And we experienced the BLM pushing us off the range where our cows had been pastured for years in the summertime, you know.

[00:39:45] And we saw a lumber company where my dad worked put out a business because some liberal judge in Hawaii enjoyed the harvest of trees purchased by this lumber company. And so I have a taste of what these two families are going through right now, Sam. And I can't wait to view the rest of the series as they are produced and published. Sam? It's a great series. There's no doubt about it, ladies and gentlemen. You've got to watch this movie, okay?

[00:40:14] Have you seen the great Pocatello Land Grab? Wjustice.org to learn more and to watch the four-part series. But let me tell you where I cut my teeth on this stuff. I've worked with all kinds of land rights groups over the years and defended ranchers. Ammon Bundy and family. Go ahead and skip the break. Ammon Bundy and family have dealt with this issue. That's what the big Bundy Ranch battle back in 2014 was all about.

[00:40:39] But I really cut my teeth on this because we had some rancher families come to one of the Constitutional Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association event. And we went to the, believe it or not, to the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. And we had, I don't know if you remember Helen Chenoweth. She was a congresswoman. And Wayne Hague, he was a rancher. They were married. And they had a ranch. And the government literally destroyed their ranch and destroyed everything they held dear.

[00:41:05] They got in a big old lawsuit with the government, multi-generational, the third generation in that lawsuit from what I understand. I don't have her name in front of me, but Miss Ramona. I think it's Ramona. Anyway, and she spoke about this. And she said, hey, we've been fighting this for three generations. And in the last round of litigation, she testified that, hey, the judge said, federal government, you're absolutely out of line here. Bring your checkbook. You're going to owe this family a lot of money. And they basically charged the general government with racketeering.

[00:41:35] This is no joke. But Ramona Hague basically said at the end of the day, she said, you know, they owe us a bunch of money, but how do you get them to write the check? And that was the end of her speech, showing that, look, they're criminals through and through, but how do you stop them? Even when you win in court, you can't get the money. I mean, the judge said, bring your checkbook, but they still haven't received a penny. And so they're destroying ranchers all over, domestically speaking. They're doing the same thing internationally. And at some point, you say nothing in politics happens by accident, lull.

[00:42:05] Nothing in politics is an accident, Sam. You're exactly right. This is all engineered. It's orchestrated. And these bad people, these evil people, they do it because they're greedy. They want land. They want money. They want power and influence. And it's a real problem sometimes. You know, even though, like you say, that you get a ruling in your favor, how do you make them write the check?

[00:42:35] And that's the bottom line. And you got to wonder, too, ladies and gentlemen, hey, they're grinding the face of the poor with this all around the world and pretending that they're the arbiters of truth and salvation and stability and safety. It's a complete lie. We need to visit the old school of our founding fathers, though, to kind of put this in perspective. No, I don't want a revolution. Now I want a restoration. Because since we have the framework, the general government guidelines in the Constitution and each state constitution, we have the framework for solutions.

[00:43:04] So we don't need a revolution again. What we need is a restoration of these principles. But to visit what the founding fathers understood, you just got to go to Michael Bolton, 10th Amendment Center, Lowell. That's right, Sam. His article a couple weeks ago was about Jonathan Mayhew. Now, Sam, have you ever heard of Jonathan Mayhew? Yeah, I sadly admit I have not. Yeah, same here.

[00:43:28] I was chagrined to find out that I had not known about Jonathan Mayhew, but so grateful to Michael Bolton at the 10th Amendment Center for enlightening me. In 1750, Jonathan Mayhew delivered a sermon on resisting tyranny. His sermon was widely read but mostly forgotten. He challenged the notion of blind obedience to authority, basing his argument on both scripture and upon reason.

[00:43:56] His ideas not only shaped the ideological foundation for resistance to British rule, but also laid the groundwork for broader principles of liberty and self-government. In fact, Sam, I don't think we know who inspired this slogan, rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

[00:44:16] But this Jonathan Mayhew may have been the one who actually inspired this slogan because that's basically the essence of his sermon is captured in those seven words. Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. Mayhew said that resistance to tyranny is a moral duty. Submission to government is conditional or only when the government acts justly and within its lawful bounds.

[00:44:47] You know, so when our public servants abandon these limits and exercise power contrary to the people's rights and liberties, then we have no duty to obey them, right? Obedience not only ceases to be required, but it also becomes a moral obligation to resist. You know, and Sam, that's an important point. You know, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, when I was first studying and learning more and more about liberty,

[00:45:15] I knew intuitively that I was under no obligation to obey a lawless government, you know, an illegal order or an unlawful order. I was under no obligation to obey. But I didn't realize at that time, you know, 30, 40 years ago, that I had a moral obligation to resist. You see, I had never heard of Jonathan Mayhew. I'd never read his sermon.

[00:45:43] But now I am in the past 5, 10, 20 years, I've come to realize that we do have a moral obligation to resist tyrannical government. And so whenever it colors outside the lines, whenever it exceeds the bounds of its constitutional authority, we have a moral obligation to resist.

[00:46:01] We, meaning the state governments, the local governments, the sheriffs, the county clerks, the, you know, we have a moral obligation to resist this kind of tyranny. Now, Mayhew also spoke of the gift of self-defense. And in his view, quote, people who permit oppression by failing to resist are complicit in their own enslavement, end of quote.

[00:46:29] He emphasized that self-defense is a God-given natural right. And so he framed resistance not as an act of unlawful rebellion, but as a moral imperative to preserve liberty. And so, Sam, you can see how his writing, how his sermon, you know, was basically the fabric of understanding of the founders of these 13 original states, right?

[00:46:55] The founders of our country who put together, based on this notion that not only do we have a, not only don't we have a duty to obey lawless tyranny, but we also have a moral obligation to resist, right?

[00:47:10] These two key concepts grew out of Mayhew's sermon of 1750 and permeated the colonies in the 1750s, 60s, and 70s, which gave rise to this war for independence. Well, as you might imagine, Sam, Mayhew's rhetoric drew a great deal of criticism from the establishment of his time. Of course it did. He threatened their power. That's right.

[00:47:39] He was called a dangerous radical. He was accused of stirring up rebellion. And so you might wonder, well, how did he respond to this criticism? Turns out he just merely dismissed it, saying he neither read their criticism nor cared for their opinions. Well, we could. This guy doesn't seek for power. He seeks to pull it down, and they don't know what to do. Tenth Amendment Senator Michael Bolden doing a phenomenal job on this.

[00:48:08] The sermon that laid the groundwork for the American Revolution. Very, very critical stuff. And this is what I mean by it. It's one thing to study the Constitution. It's another thing to study all the Founding Fathers' writings and the debates and the discussions and the concerns that they had. That's really where a lot of this pay dirt for understanding is. You put things in its proper context and more. And I want to end on something that I think is super critical.

[00:48:35] Trump, on February the 19th, backed Elon Musk's plan to audit the gold reserves at Fort Knox. We're going to go into Fort Knox to make sure the gold is there, Trump told reporters on Air Force One. You know we're going into Air Force One. Did you know about that, he says? Well, Senator Rand Paul chimes in, says it's an awesome thing. And I support Senator Rand Paul. He says this. Let me try to get this number right.

[00:49:04] 4,580 tons of gold, equivalent to $425 billion, sits at Fort Knox. And the government wants us to believe it's there, sight unseen. It's been more than 50 years since someone audited Fort Knox.

[00:49:26] And Rand Paul says, I've attempted to make appointments with the Treasury multiple times to see the gold, to see if it's really there. And nothing has kind of come of my request for visits to date. This is critical. Do you really believe Trump will get it done, Lowell? Because I sure pray so. Yeah, I think he will. I think that he's piqued the interest of Americans across the country on this.

[00:49:53] I remember when I was a kid, Sam, this was back in the 60s and 70s, that Fort Knox was a big deal. I remember talking about it, and I remember efforts to get it audited. I remember hearing the headlines of people who tried but failed because the government refused to let them get in and audit the thing. So, I mean, it's big news. I mean, I'm delighted. I mean, where did Trump come up with the idea?

[00:50:23] I think it's fantastic. From Ron, I assume. Yeah, maybe Ron, maybe Rand. But it's an idea that deserved to be resurrected. Maybe listen to all of our incredible reports on Liberty Roundtable. Maybe that's where you got it. I don't know. I am optimistic that he will get it audited. You know, I think it's 90 days. They have, like, 90 days to get their gold in order, get their books in order, whatever. But, you know. I wouldn't give them 90 days, man.

[00:50:52] What I'd do is, you know how they want to attack individuals and violate due process and just kick in the door? Yeah. You know, they just send a SWAT team and just kick in the door. Why don't they do that to the Federal Reserve and do that to the Fort Knox? Just kick in the door and say, we want to see what's here and we want to see it now. And if you guys have coated some of these, you know, bars that aren't really gold, making them look like gold or whatever, we're going to basically, you know, do some third-party testing and confirm it's real gold, too. In other words, we can't just see it and go, oh, it's good.

[00:51:21] No, we've got to test it and make sure it's really gold. We're not being snookered on that end, too, Lowell. That's exactly right. You need to take that bar and you need to weigh it, make sure it weighs correctly. You've also got to test it and make sure it's really gold, that it's not some painted thing. Exactly. I used to mock and say we could put tungsten in there and paint it and make it look like gold, you know. One of the funniest things I noticed in these movies about pirates and their treasure chests of gold, you know,

[00:51:49] they'll be carrying a big, like an apple box-sized chest of gold, you know, one pirate on one side and one pirate on the other. And they have no idea how much gold really weighs. If you take just five or six gold bars, it would take two men to carry, you know, five or six gold bars because it is so heavy. So I just laugh and laugh when I see those movies. But Sam, yeah, I'm optimistic that we'll get in there.

[00:52:18] I think that the Federal Reserve is probably frantically looking for all of the gold that they can scrounge together to make Fort Knox look like, you know, they still have the gold. I'm afraid they don't have it, Sam. I really think that we've probably sold a lot of our gold overseas to other countries. I'm worried. Yeah, what we need to really realize, too, is we can't let them basically borrow a bunch of gold from the banks and move it there

[00:52:46] and then let us go ahead and inspect it and then leave and then the gold moves out, too. Yeah. Part of the problem is we just can't trust anybody in government anymore, Lowell. Well, and we never should have in the first place. As Thomas Jefferson said, put to not put your confidence in men. Right. Don't trust them, but bind them down by the chains of the Constitution, which is sound money. That's the real chains of the Constitution.

[00:53:12] If we just get back to sound money, they would be bound by the Constitution. Sam. Well, all I can tell you is this. It's good news that all these things are on the table. And you can say they're just talk, but I believe that Pat Buchanan set a lot of the groundwork for what's happening now. I also submit that Ron Paul set so much of the groundwork for what's happening right now. Look, nobody even discussed the Federal Reserve in realistic terms. I mean, they always just talk about the Fed. Oh, that's God.

[00:53:41] And they can decide and they're independent. Nobody can control them. Ron Paul was the first one to kind of stand up and say, wait a minute, people. Congress has the responsibility for honest weights and measures, constitutional currency, gold and silver. And this Federal Reserve doesn't fit. And we've got to, you know, and he went on the national campaign stage. So even if you don't win when you run for office, you've got to realize you're there to one-win if you can. But you're also there to force discussions to the table that might not be there without you. And to educate, educate, educate.

[00:54:10] So understand that running for political office has a lot of good reasons and people need to do more of it, Lowell. Final word to you, 20 seconds. Yes, legal tender laws are another hinge point here, Sam. Sam, the Congress, you know, delegated the Federal Reserve the printing of fiat money. And then they passed legal tender laws which allowed their use. So U.S. Congress is to blame for as much of the pain we feel today. Sam? We've got to right the boat, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:54:40] We can do it together if you get involved. Thanks so much to Lowell Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org. God save the republic.