Radio Show Hour 2 – 02/21/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, Sam Bushman on your radio. You know, live radio behind the scenes is just sometimes just absolutely crazy. And hopefully we deliver on the air and take out some of the craziness and deliver a professional broadcast.

[00:00:40] But wow, so many incredible things going on. Just a summary of last hour. Dr. Scott Bradley is with me both hours today. freedomsrisingsun.com doing a phenomenal job as always. We also have Peter Scoop Stanton with us last hour, host of the 75 radio show, reporting live from CPAC. 75radio.org, a big old shout out to the folks at 75 radio. 75 radio.

[00:01:06] We also talked about CPAC kicks off with Trump and Vance speaking at the four-day event, right? I guess speaking at the event, Steve Bannon, many others as well. It's a, you know, star-studded event. I would love to have been there, folks. The problem is it just costs me so much money to every event that I go to. I just cannot be everywhere. I don't have the funding. Anyway, so there you have that.

[00:01:36] Steve Bannon accused of making a Nazi salute during CPAC speech. I think that's completely bogus. I reject it. I don't think that's really what's going on. But there you have it. That's how they play. And then last hour, we had an incredible guest. Christopher Martini was our guest, ladies and gentlemen. He's a writer, a director, a producer, a cinematographer, relentless patriot.

[00:02:01] He's a filmmaker who started as a child actor, and then he was an editor for over 15 years. And now he owns a company called TripleMartiniProductions.com. That's TripleMartiniProductions.com. And Mr. Martini has directed a bunch of shorts. I'll list them in the show notes for you because they're incredible. And we're talking about incredible stories told by talented filmmakers.

[00:02:29] He worked for the studio, kind of like Angel Studios, but they've got a little bit different trajectory. GlobalAscensionStudios.com. So check that out. And finally, we ended talking about Christopher's hat. He's got a hat on as he runs around CPAC, which says, make movies great again. Boy, howdy, do I agree with that? Dr. Bradley, what do you think? Make movies great again? That medicine, I think, right now.

[00:02:56] I mean, we've had so much of a, I don't know what you'd call an avalanche of trash that's come into the environment. Boy, is that an understatement, sir. I think everything is so woke and DEI and all that kind of nonsense that, I mean, you know, you talk about airplanes that are crashing and all sorts of disastrous things with presidential assassinations attempted anyway with DEI.

[00:03:25] And it's just, you've got these crazy, whacked out athletic events where boys are beating up girls. And you have to say, well, why don't we try and restore the foundation and the stuff that really is American? And you've got Disney with all sorts of efforts to try and, in spite of what the original script said, make it a, I don't know,

[00:03:53] a video about skin color rather than anything else. I mean, it's just bizarre to me how twisted we've become. And we could surely use a little refreshing new response. And I don't know what this guy does with all of his movies. I mean, kind of a triple martini concept is a little bit different than what I would have envisioned. You know, you talk about the triple martini lunch and people come back a little tipsy.

[00:04:20] But, you know, because of the name and everything, I can understand that. But holy cow, I mean, we need some memorable kind of movies that maybe even carry a hopeful message, as he said. If you give people hope, maybe we can figure out a way to keep this going. That is the hope, ladies and gentlemen. Hope springs eternal. If it's not hopium, which means you believe in things that aren't real and that aren't really going to pan out.

[00:04:47] Tell me about the weekly Q&A, the webinar. It happened last night, right? Well, it did indeed. We have always, we took about an hour and 15 minutes of, you know, I try to keep it to an hour, but I can never do it. I'm a failure at that, an abject failure. But a lot of things that came out, you know, I'm just going to kind of hit some highlights, if you will, or the Doge rebate checks that are being talked about, the Kash Patel confirmation,

[00:05:15] some of the things that are happening in the Ukraine war, and how Zelensky is really not doing a good job interview with Trump. And there have been some offense given, stuff along the border. The executive orders are out there. Those kinds of things are on people's minds, you know. And so we kind of do what we can to, you know, give a perspective on that. And you always wonder if it makes any sense.

[00:05:42] I mean, you know, I wave my arms around a lot and everything and talk, and hopefully there's some message in there. So those were kind of the, you know, general topics that were hot as we had our webinar last night. It's astonishing to me how fast so many things are moving. I mentioned in the last hour, by the way, that I did a little bit of binge watching on CNN.

[00:06:11] And had there been a camera on me, my eye rolls would have been probably the prominent feature that people would have noticed. I was absolutely astounded. I don't usually look at CNN, but I got in there about the time Kash Patel was up for vote. And, oh, ain't it awful? They're going to all die? We're just going to fail as a nation?

[00:06:33] And there was nothing in there but an agenda-driven, loaded set of words that they were just dragging things through the muck. But they were just, they were using, you know, kind of radio, TV, host kind of, you know, expressions. But every one of them was a loaded failure is what it was. I was just astonished.

[00:06:58] I usually don't get, I have a lot of news sources I use to kind of get a view of across the spectrum and everything. And you can pick your news source based upon the, you know, the agenda you want. But I was struck by something. I'll just mention this and then we can move on if you want. But many, many decades ago, as a young man, I was a missionary.

[00:07:22] And I was trying to take the message of Jesus Christ to people that we had interaction with. And I'd never thought about a perspective that came up with a young man that was learning about the Savior for the first time. And, you know, you always figure, I mean, everybody knows who Jesus is. Come on. But this young man was profoundly deaf, profoundly deaf. He had been in an isolated world his entire life.

[00:07:49] And, in fact, I had no idea how isolated you would be if you could not use your hearing sense to pick up. I mean, you hear little nuances, a child's voice or a drop of a pen or music or whatever. Whatever is in your world and that connects you somehow. And there was talking about Jesus. Well, who was Jesus and what did he do?

[00:08:15] And this young man that had been so isolated in his life, he said, well, I don't know who he is, but he must have been a horrible man because everything I've ever seen about it, they were killing him. And it was like, holy cow, how can you be so isolated to never have that inkling about, you know, what our Savior did for us? And, I mean, this opened up a whole new world.

[00:08:44] But the fact of the matter is, I thought about that when I was watching CNN yesterday. And that's kind of a strange linkage, I guess. But some people get only their information from such a biased, completely upside down and backward source that I can see how people are completely isolated from the truth.

[00:09:09] I mean, if you can live your whole life until your early 20s and you've never heard of Jesus, well, think about what if you got your news source from CNN or some of these other like ABC, NBC, CBS, whatever. Or you never learned anything but what they taught in school about, you know, the United States government and how horrible we are as a nation. And, you know, all this stuff about we're racist and the 1619 thing, the critical race theory.

[00:09:39] If all you've ever heard is that nonsense and you have never opened up your horizon to be able to say, well, what is this really about? I mean, if you can come into your 20s and Jesus doesn't even have a thing to do with your life, that's what we're doing with our whole society, with our education system. Oh, yeah. It's everywhere.

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[00:10:34] And, you know, these things can save the nation. That's really what we're talking about. There's no question that this is, you know, an avenue that's almost completely empty in American society. We've become irreligious. Let's take a quick break. We'll come right back and continue to break things down just for you. It is a freedom-loving, fantastic, faith-filled. We're taking America back one heart, one mind, one issue at a time Friday. Hang tight.

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[00:13:09] All right, back with you live, ladies and gentlemen. We were talking about the webinar last night for Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com. Sign up and become part of the webinars every Thursday night. Q&As on the Constitution and more. Anyway, then we went kind of far afield. We went to this idea about how important it is to bring the Savior into all aspects of our lives and how we try to do that on the radio and watching CNN. Hey, God's not in this place is the experience Dr. Bradley basically had.

[00:13:37] But back to the webinar, what were the key topics? Because, man, I got a bunch of topics, too. But I want to see what everybody else is talking about first. Well, like I said, we kind of gave you just a real, you know, 50,000-foot view of that. This Doge rebate check thing was the first thing that came up. Okay, well, I reject it. We don't need Doge rebate checks. Well, here's the deal. There's some dangers involved with that, too. I mean, just because we're talking about that. They say in general, and this is very much superficial also,

[00:14:07] 20% of the rebate will go back to taxpayers, 20% to pay the debt down, then 60% to get next year's funding process. Well, here's the deal. And we could talk about each one of those individually if you wanted. But the 60% next year process, here's what I see happening. Okay, and just quickly, let's say there's a husband and wife. They're a single-family income. They're living off of that income. And the other spouse decides to get a job.

[00:14:38] Well, suddenly, they get a job for $25,000 a year. It's not exactly the highest-paying job and everything like that. But they say, hey, we've got $25,000 more to play with. Let's go buy a boat. And let's get a new car. Sure. And while we're at it, we need a vacation to Cancun, whatever, okay? And first of all, you need to understand that you're talking about $25,000 gross amount. You've got to take taxes out of that. You've got to take clothes. You've got to take transportation. You've got to take meals out of that. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

[00:15:06] If we just abolish the income tax entirely really quick, before everybody has to file in April, then there won't be any taxes anymore that you have to pay that way. Okay. You're taking a side trip here, Sam, that's distracting me. I am. Hold on. I am, but it's not distracting. My point is, ladies and gentlemen, we don't have to have all these things that we talk about. We can change the game. So I'm not supporting stimulus checks in any way. Don't misunderstand me.

[00:15:32] But what I am saying is, hey, all you've got to do is get rid of the IRS. All you've got to do is shut down a lot of these taxes, and then tariffs won't be a problem. See, tariffs on top of our taxes is a problem. But if you really got rid of the IRS and got rid of a lot of these taxes and regulations and decreased the size and scope and spending of government, and then you said, hey, we're going to put these tariffs in place, it can work great. We don't need a stimulus check if you do it right, doctor. Well, that's very true, but you're not going to have that happen in seven weeks,

[00:16:02] so don't go spend anything right now. Because you don't, well, realistically speaking, Sam, I mean, you don't wave a magic wand and a whole institution that's been around for 120-plus years. They waved a wand to put it in place? They did, but let me tell you something. It's kind of like trying to get out of the Paris Climate Act or something like that, or the United Nations. I mean, the problem is that the institutions are embedded.

[00:16:33] And yes, we've got to work for it. Oh, you're right about that. But you're not going to have it in seven weeks. All right, we probably want to get it done in the next year, and then basically we've lost all of it because Congress will all be fired and replaced with the Democrats, and then they'll just basically create a lame duck session for the next couple of years, and then Trump will be out and the next clowns will be in. If we're not careful, that's the reality. So I get that we can't get it done in a couple of weeks. At the same time, we could never get anything done. That's the problem. Well, you do have one. You were talking about the IRS,

[00:17:01] and if you do want to go back and find out how we can overspend the Doge rebate, but let me just tell about the IRS since that came up. They say that, I believe it's today, they're supposed to get rid of 3,500 IRS agents. And I've got to tell you, CNN had a stroke over that because, oh, my goodness, we need the money. It's so bad, and you're getting rid of the people that are collecting our money from us. I mean, it's not like there's not enough Sheriff of Nottingham's out there

[00:17:31] pulling everything in. But the fact of the matter is that they need to lose a lot more than 3,500 IRS agents. And as you point out, Sam, ultimately and finally, we don't really need the IRS. But that's some good news today that they're supposed to lose 3,500 IRS agents. So, you know, maybe that's something that's positive. Yeah, they're calling it the Doge dividend is what they're calling it.

[00:17:58] And basically, Trump floated sending refund checks from Doge savings. So President Donald Trump is considering a plan that would give, they say, 20% of savings identified by Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency, Doge, back to Americans potentially, you know, saving a lot of money, helping people out and everything else. I think, and I understand what they're trying to do.

[00:18:28] They're trying to give Americans a shot in the arm. The economy a shot in the arm. I get all that. But in my opinion, that just spends us into oblivion when you're in this kind of debt, 36-plus trillion dollars, and our credit is starting to tank. And this group out there, what's it called? It's the new group competing for the currency. What's that called? Bricks? You mean the digital currencies? Bricks.

[00:18:55] Oh, the bricks that want to do another basket of currencies. Yeah, okay. They're challenging the United States. The dollar's starting to have problems. So we don't want to do that. What we want to do is we want to decrease the burden on the backs of the American people. By reduced regulation, less general government involved in everything, and we can lower taxes, and we can create tariffs and things like that that will shift those expenses to other people.

[00:19:23] And you can say, well, no, Sam, the American people still pay them. Yes, they do, but not directly. Not to harass my life, steal my house, and put me in jail kind of stuff, right? And that's what we've got to get away from before anything else. So I appreciate a lot of these ideas, but a dividend is when you have a profit, doctor, not when you're in debt to the hill. Well, and as I started to say, there's a lot of dangers, as you've nibbled around the edges about, because they can go into great depth.

[00:19:50] But they're saying 60% of the findings of this dividend, will they want to put to next year's revenue to be able to spend. And it's like, no, hold on for a minute. As I was pointing out, all of this is just smoke and mirrors. There's no real money there. And to give Congress the impression that they've got billions upon billions of extra dollars

[00:20:19] that they can spend next year, because, golly, there's never enough money. We want to spend these things. And so let's take the gloves off. Let's start looking for ways to spend these. You know, I can always buy more votes back in my home state and blah, blah, blah. Pretty soon, all we've done is completely thrown off the things that we thought we were going to save. And then the other thing is they usually do 10-year projections on these things. They say, look at this.

[00:20:46] We found five, no, let's say 50, $50 million that we're going to save in this area. Over 10 years, that's a half a billion dollars. Look at that. We've just saved the nation a half a billion dollars over 10 years. I have never, in all of my born days, so to speak, ever seen these projections that have been projected out for 10-year periods.

[00:21:10] I've never seen, never once in government, seen savings or some kind of benefit that can be projected for 10 years because it gets flittered away. Yeah, because it's alive from the get-go. They're putting it off until the next, I mean, in 10 years, you've got five replacements of all of the house. You've got at least cycling through the whole Senate time and a half over, whatever you want to call it, kind of a thing. And so they know they won't have any responsibility or accountability. I want to see $3 trillion saved in the first year.

[00:21:40] That's kind of why I say we've got to abolish the IRS in seven weeks if we're going to have any lasting change happen. We've got to take serious action and make serious changes that can't be unwound. And we can't just have the president do it by executive order. We've got to have Congress double down and codify these things. We're smoking hopium, Sam, is not going to happen in today's world. Half of the Senate, half of the House is voted every time against anything Trump has wanted to do.

[00:22:08] I mean, you look at Kash Patel's kind of shifting gears here. Nomination. What was it, 49 to 51? Yeah. And that's the thing is we had, I mean, even if you say, oh, the Republicans are all voting. No, all the Democrats are against whatever Trump is doing. And two or three of the Republicans always cross over. I mean, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski on this Kash Patel confirmation.

[00:22:34] So, I mean, there were one vote away from having to have Vance break the tie. But you could have easily have had, you know, Mr. Kentucky, McConnell, I mean, McConnell cross over to it. And he would have made it an even-steven kind of thing. You have half of the Congress that hates anything that Trump comes up with. It is not, the IRS is not going to be abolished in seven weeks. We're smoking hopium if we think we can't.

[00:23:04] We've got to work towards that. But holy cow, right now, half the country hates the other half of the country. And there's no good reason for that. You're right on every count. So here's my question for you. What would your proposal be for the Donald? I'm saying abolish the IRS. Then you don't need to give a refund. You can't do it. I've got to be realistic. So what's your proposal? You just can't do it. I get it. I agree. I don't disagree. I agree. However, I'm still, you know, in a Pollyanna way, to some might say. But in a realistic way, pointing out what's got to happen if we want to change the trajectory of the country.

[00:23:33] Whether we can do it or not, we've got to, you know, like Kirk Cosby says, I'm going to take the tartar sauce with me, right? What would your proposal be? If you were Donald, what would you do? You can't burn down the Capitol and walk away, Sam. You've got to be realistic about this. There has got to be. What would you do? I would go to Congress and I'd say, look, you guys are saving this money here.

[00:23:54] And we are not going to support anything that comes out of your leadership that says we are going to do anything besides cut, cut, cut, cut. We will not have a reconciliation bill that spends like they have in the past. And it will not be signed. The president has to draw a line in the sand, if you will, or in the concrete or whatever it is. And it's got to be some bare knuckle, hard nose kind of stuff.

[00:24:22] But I don't think you're going to get anything more than that. I wonder if Trump will do it. He sounds like he's doing it already, at least if you believe in the mainstream press. But in my opinion, we're ruling by executive order, which eventually at the end of the day means by fiat. That came up too, by the way. All right. When we come back, we'll let you respond to that, Dr. Bradley. Hang tight. Liberty Roundtable Live. Hard-hitting talk, I'll tell you what. We deal with the real issues, don't we?

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[00:25:21] Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, voting no as well. But it wasn't enough to derail the confirmation of Patel. Housing markets still struggling, although there are some signs of recovery. The National Association of Realtors reports sales of previously occupied U.S. homes fell by 4.9 percent in January, dampened both by rising prices and mortgage rates, deterring many would-be homebuyers despite greater inventory.

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[00:30:13] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Dr. Scott Bradley and Sam Bushman in the studio, ladies and gentlemen. Scoop Stanton live at CPAC right now. Sitting next to the award-winning headshot photographer of all time, Barry Morgenstein, ladies and gentlemen. You want to learn more?

[00:30:42] BarryMorganstein.com. And there's so much about this guy that's interesting. He's basically done photography for just about everybody under the sun. Donald Trump, Steven Tyler, Aerosmith. I mean, I can go up Meryl Streep. I can keep going. But I won't. What I'll do is welcome you to the broadcast, sir. Hey, thank you. Thanks for having me. Love being here. Tell me first about this because I think it relates to your growing up. On your website, I see the crazy life of a kid from Brooklyn.

[00:31:11] That's an interesting story in and of itself, right? Well, that's actually my dad's book. My dad wrote a biography about growing up in Brooklyn, which I was born in Brooklyn. But, yeah, that's my dad's autobiography that he wrote. So, yeah, he had an interesting life also. But, yeah, I'm actually coming out with my own book. It's my rock and roll images in the fall. So, yeah, that's my dad. So tell me about the crazy life from Brooklyn, how it was growing up with a dad like that. Oh, well, he was great. He was very supportive of my career. He was also a big conservative like me.

[00:31:40] So although I started off growing up in the 70s as a rock and roller, I was a big Democrat liberal until I did my complete 180 and turned around and probably became even more conservative than he did. So that made him happy. You and Donald Trump are just about everybody else on the planet, right? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, yeah. All right. Tell me your thoughts of CPAC. As a photographer, you've got an eye for it. What do you see? Put it in words for me.

[00:32:09] Oh, I see a lot of happy people, a lot of positive energy. People are celebrating. The vibes are just so great. You know, America's back. We saved it. We were at the brink. And, you know, I just see a lot of great patriots. And I love coming every year and just hanging out with my buddies. I have a lot of clients here, making new friends and stuff. And it's just a lot of great, cool, happy patriots. I love being around it. Anything that shocked you while you've been there?

[00:32:40] No, nothing. Everything is as expected. Literally, we were coming. My wife and I came. And we knew this was going to be the best year yet because Donald Trump is president. And just everybody, like Carrie Lake just said in her speech, we all sleep a lot better. So, yeah, nothing surprising. Just all good. Scoop? Barry, I really love your work as a photographer. Thank you, sir.

[00:33:07] Who was the most, who was the favorite rock star you were able to photograph? And who was the least favorite rock star you were able to photograph? Actually, who was your favorite one to photograph? We're going to drop any names on that. Scoop, he hasn't even taken my head shot yet. He can't answer that. Go ahead, sir. Well, as far as musicians, that would have to go be Paul McCartney because I'm a big Beatles fan. So that was pretty cool. That was very cool. Nice. It was a quick shoot, but it was Paul McCartney. So it was great.

[00:33:35] But I photographed a lot of people that I admire, some great musicians, Stevie Ray Vaughan, some legend, Chuck Berry, B.B. King. So a lot of music I listen to, so I love it. Is it hard for you to photograph people that you idolize? Yeah, well, yeah, funny story is when McCartney first, I don't know if I could use this word on radio, but when he first walked in the room, he was kind of clear across the room, and I kind of just was dumbfounded. I looked at him, and I thought to myself, oh, my God, there's a Beatle. And I just looked at him and said, holy S. You know, so that's all I can muster up.

[00:34:04] So, yeah, so it was kind of intimidating at first. Wow. What got you into photography? It was actually music. It was rock and roll. I was a play guitarist when I was in my 20s. I loved music. You were a kid listening to Bad Company, weren't you? Exactly. I love Bad Company. I love Bad Company, absolutely. Absolutely. The Zeppelin, the Stones, Beatles, all that stuff. So, you know, but I realized I wasn't going to have a career as a musician, and then I started to realize, and I was in a band, and my girlfriend at the time was a singer of the band.

[00:34:35] I picked up a camera. I started photographing her. I started photographing fellow musicians who are friends who are musicians, and I realized, you know what? Because I love music, I have an eye for this, so I know how to capture these people. So that kind of led into my career as a rock and roll photographer, which eventually led to a headshot photographer. Oh, okay. So roundabout way I got into it, I guess, through music. Right, right, right. Because, you know, it's funny. A little bit about me, I got into talk radio from listening to, you know, WNEW in New York. Oh, yeah. Great.

[00:35:04] Scott Muni, the whole crew, love it. Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, obviously I can't play, so I can barely talk, but if you listen to the bumpers, it's all like, I start off with Led Zeppelin's How Many More Times. Oh, that's a good one. Right. And all the songs, more or less, are things you don't hear on regular terrestrial, quote-unquote, classic rock radio. But anyways, enough about me. Yeah.

[00:35:31] What made you go from a hardcore liberal Democrat from the city of New York to the conservative that you are today? Well, my first answer I always give is, well, I found out the girls were prettier. But that's not the serious answer. Ha, ha. Hey, but you're not lying, sir. Yeah, but actually on a more serious note, it was actually 9-11. I did almost, it was 9-11. I just started watching Fox News coverage, and I realized, you know, I just wasn't a liberal anymore.

[00:36:00] I became very serious about the homeland, about law enforcement, about the military, about veterans, and it was almost an immediate turnaround. So, yeah, unfortunately it was a sad situation that brought me to the right way of thinking. But that was it. Right. Now, what has been the reaction from people in the circles? I'm sure you did the entertainment circle and photography and media about you going from, you know,

[00:36:27] a far-left liberal Democrat from Brooklyn that happens to be Jewish, a member of the Jewish faith, to where are you at today hanging out with people from Libby News and Radio? Yeah, well, in the entertainment field, trust me, I could talk about this all day, but I've been boycotted, I've been canceled, I've been bad-mouthed, I've been called a Nazi, which, as you pointed out, being Jewish is kind of funny. I always find that humorous. Yeah, by the way, I'm a blind person. I don't know if you know that, Barry, and they call me a racist.

[00:36:58] Like, what the heck's going on around here? He's not joking either. Yeah, no, I care all the time. But you know what? People say to me, because I am outspoken, as you may know, Scoop, on social media, and I have no problem giving my opinion, and people say, well, aren't you worried about losing business? You'd shoot a lot of actors. I'm like, you know, I said, no, I care more about my country, and actually it really does balance out because I'm the go-to guy for conservatives,

[00:37:26] veterans, law enforcement love coming to me for photos. So, you know, I have the best clients. And Donald Trump, Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, many others will go ahead and come to your aid too, right? Yeah, exactly, exactly. So, yeah, so I'm happy with my opinion. So, you know, I'm a proud patriot, and I'm going to keep on speaking out. What does your wife say about all this? Is she political? Oh, is she? Oh, my God, yeah, she's here with me. And she backs me. She supports me.

[00:37:56] Yeah, I could never marry a liberal. So, yeah, no, she's a conservative. Yeah, so just like me. We talk politics, and, you know, we're having a great time here at CPAC, seeing all the speakers and seeing all of our friends. So, yeah, no, I'm lucky. I'm lucky. All right, I got a question for you. Did you see Elon Musk's – or, I'm sorry, did you see Steve Bannon's speech? No, I didn't. I missed it. I saw Elon Musk, but we missed Steve Bannon. All right, because it's all over the Internet that he put a Nazi salute up at the end. I'm not buying it. I think they're playing games. I wanted to get your take.

[00:38:27] Steve Bannon did? They say Steve Bannon did, yeah. Is that seriously what they're saying? Yeah. That's what they're saying, yeah. I don't believe it's true, but that's what they're saying. Well, yeah, I mean, as much as Elon Musk gave it, I guess, it's the same. Yeah, same influence, which means you didn't really do it, but they'll just claim any gesture you make as that. An exuberant, excited gesture becomes a Nazi salute every time for this guy. I know. If I can speak to somebody across the hall right now, I'll probably get accused of giving a Nazi salute. Yeah, you're doing a Nazi salute. Dr. Scott Bradley's with us as well.

[00:38:56] Do you want to ask a great New York headshot photographer questions, Dr. Bradley? Well, this is a niche that I've had very little experience in, but I am fascinated by the fact that, you know, you've had a lot of people who are in the United States,

[00:39:23] and I'm just wondering how do you transition from that kid that really was just kind of on the street, and I'm maybe overplaying that, but now you've got people clamoring to have you do this. Obviously, we'd like to do this with leadership people in a political way to get their attention and help kind of shape going forward with America,

[00:39:52] and you've done it in your industry, and that's a fascinating thing to me, to think that you came to this pinnacle, if you will. How did you do that? You know, I guess, again, when I started doing headshots, I started doing news people, local news people, and then I had a friend who was a makeup artist at Fox News, and she kind of started telling some of the anchors there about me, and they came to me, and they loved my work, and they started recommending to other people, and then I kind of became, now I do a lot of the Newsmax folks,

[00:40:21] their anchors, and people just knew. I guess they were real comfortable coming to me that I was not a liberal photographer in New York, and they'd be safe in my studio, and they knew they were with a like-minded person, so I guess I just built up that reputation, luckily. So are you going to make headshots great again then, Barry? Exactly. I use that tagline for sure. I think one of the keys to this is we need to start to stick together.

[00:40:51] Yeah. Barry, and what I mean by that is we need to start using each other's services and pass the money around the people who believe in God, family, and country, right? That's really where it starts. Right. Yes. No, I agree. Absolutely. I do agree with that, and that's kind of a— I think I'm lucky that people—I have loyal people that try to help me out, and if I know somebody who's a conservative or a patriot, I'll certainly recommend them for business, too, for whatever they do. So, yeah, no, I agree. We have to stick together.

[00:41:20] Now, you're Jewish, right, Barry? Yes, sir. Okay. What they try to do is divide the conservatives. They say, oh, Barry's a Jew and Sam's a Christian, and therefore they—and they try to paint this divide. This divide doesn't exist, does it? No. No, we're brothers and sisters. No, Christians and Jews are, you know, we're together, you know, on everything. We're just, you know, we're related. And, you know, I get a lot, too, being Jewish, and a lot of my folks are on the left side, I guess,

[00:41:49] which is very frustrating to me and a pet peeve of mine. Just pray for them, brother. Yeah, exactly. So, which I don't get that, you know, being very— if you're pro-Israel, how you could be on the left or how we—it just blows my mind. You know, how you cannot love President Trump, who's the greatest friend Israel ever had, greatest friend of Jews. What do you think? Is Trump Jewish or is he Christian, or do you know? I think he's got a little bit of both in him. All right. Yeah. Yeah. He's just—he's American, so yeah.

[00:42:19] Right. So tell me this. You grew up in New York. Your dad tells stories about how crazy it was growing up. So I grew up in New Jersey. I actually grew up in New Jersey. You grew up in New Jersey. All right. My studio's in New York, so I grew up in New—I'm a Jersey boy. Oh. It's your fault. Yeah, right. So I guess here's the question. As you take that away, as you go from the— I don't want to say the streets, but you know what I mean. As you go from being an average Joe to virtually being a rock star, headshot photographer for celebrities and everything else, what would you say is the biggest takeaway along the way?

[00:42:46] In other words, you wrap it all up and go, hmm, as I look back. What's the biggest takeaway you'd tell America? From what? I'm sorry. Can you say that again, please? What's the biggest takeaway that you would tell America about your whole experience? From my career? Yeah. Well, you know what? I guess the greatest—when I first started, yeah, my goal was I want to hang out with rock stars and actors, and they're the coolest people.

[00:43:12] But as I went along and, again, became more conservative, to me, the heroes were photographing military veterans and law enforcement, and they just have—I guess the takeaway is they're the most—they're the real heroes and they're the most humble, too. So let me ask you, what percent of these rock stars, when you meet them and everything, are gracious and humble and respectful and appreciative and put you on the level, if you will, versus what percent kind of go, hmm, I'm the rock star in the room and you're not?

[00:43:41] What percentage? What do you see? Good question. I just wanted to ask that because I've found in my career that the most humble or the nicest ones are the ones who are the most famous, actually, and the most successful, like a McCartney or an Elton John or somebody like that. I don't know, and sometimes people who are maybe not quite—you know, they might be a little famous, but not to that level. It seems like maybe they have a little more of an attitude. I don't know if it's an insecurity thing or whatever, but that's kind of what I found. Interesting.

[00:44:12] Where do headshots go in the future? Like, is AI going to interrupt a lot of this? You know, I hope not. I'm not a fan of AI, as you can imagine. Yeah, so I try to encourage people to stop using AI. You know, to me, it's fake looking. It's, you know, it's just, yeah. And it would put me out of business, so. So, yeah. So I'm hoping that. I'm hoping that. I'm a fan of AI if it's used properly. I'm not a fan of AI if it's—you know, we think every new thing to the table is disruptive and going to change the whole world.

[00:44:40] And as long as we put it in its proper support, if I want to write a complicated email that's very—I've got to walk a fine line and this and that. Hey, to get a draft from that and then for me to finish it off is really good, right? Right. No, I agree with that. I'm like—I'm thinking photo-wise that, you know, you see people who do it and just don't look like them. Like, I did a post the other day on my Facebook page, and I said, you know what? I gave in. I decided to try AI, and I posted a photo of a young Paul Newman. I said, hey, I like the results. See, that's great.

[00:45:09] And I think for fun, as a digital assistant in some way, AI has its value. But hey, I don't think an AI presentation is about to replace a person like you or a talk show host like me anytime soon either. You know, hopefully not, because, you know, it's part of the—when people come to me for headshots, it's part of the experience. We got a—we have a jukebox going. I'm playing good music. We have the atmosphere. We're talking. We're chatting. We have makeup artists and assistants, and we're all getting along. It's like a fun time.

[00:45:37] And so, you know, so they definitely want the experiences along with the great headshots. You know, behind-the-scenes photos they get. So what kind of dollars does this take to make happen? Is it like an expensive proposition, or is it something that mere mortals can do? No, you know, I think people tell me I'm reasonable. People always say, yeah, you should raise your prices because you're so good. And I try to keep it reasonable. So, you know, you can get great headshots for under $1,000 for sure. Okay. So it takes a little bit of money, but it's not crazy.

[00:46:03] Anybody who's serious and needs a headshot for legitimate, you know, marketing and promo reasons and everything else, it is easy to back into, right? Yeah, sure. I have a few packages. One, you know, some cheaper packages, too, for just like a one look, you know, or if you want two outfits or three outfits, that type of thing. So I work with people. All right. Excellent. And I do give discounts to veterans and military personnel. And blind people, right? Yes. I'm just kidding. I'm just having fun. Not really. I'm just joking. Yes.

[00:46:34] Are you going to speak at CPAC? Do you have a booth? No. What are you doing there? Just walking around? I'm just hanging out, networking. Again, just talking, meeting friends and clients, making new friends and new clients. Talking on Libby Roundtable. Yeah, exactly. Now I made the big time, my friend. Yeah, I love it. I'm just kidding. Thank you so much for being with us. We appreciate all you do. It's fascinating to talk to experts in different fields and learn what makes them tick and learn. How they got into the business and what they do.

[00:47:03] And obviously your talent is, well, people can see it everywhere, right? Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. I got one last question before we let you fly. What was the worst experience you've ever had with someone? The worst? There might be a few examples of that. I mean, one, I remember I was photographing a soap opera actress and she had almost like a breakdown and started sobbing during the shoot because she wasn't happy with her wardrobe. So it was a little awkward.

[00:47:33] There was another time when I used to shoot a lot for soap opera. Did you sit down, have an espresso, hang tight, hold on? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I kind of tried to talk her down like a therapist. I had a few episodes like that. Yeah. So that might have been nothing terrible, I guess. Yeah. Oh, there was one time I did forget. Back in the film days, I did a major shoot. It was on a TV set and it was a major scene with a helicopter doing a rescue from an island and I was snapping away on a rowboat. And when I got back to the island, I realized I didn't load the camera with film. So that kind of sucked. Oops. Yeah, right. That's no fun.

[00:48:03] What's the best time you've had? What's the most fulfilling experience where you go, you know what? This is why I do what I do. I just keep going back to it. I meet some great heroes. People like Chris Tonto, Pronto. He's one of the Benghazi guys. We became great friends. When you photograph heroes and they're just good guys, those are always the most exciting for me. Thank you so much for your time, sir. Hey, thank you. You guys were great. I really appreciate it. Appreciate you, sir. There you go.

[00:48:33] All right. Thank you, Scoop. We'll talk soon. Dr. Bradley, what do you say to all this, man? We're having on people who, in my opinion, are different segments of the media than I am. But you know what? We're all working together to make great films, to put together good, honest, moral, great photography. We're putting together great radio shows and short videos. And I mean, the arts are taking off in a very meaningful, productive way. And people are getting the moral compass side of this discussion, Dr. Bradley.

[00:49:02] Well, so much of what we've talked about today has really been out of my wheelhouse. I mean, I'm kind of a bare knuckles, hardcore, let's see what we can do to save the nation. And this is kind of with a softer lens, what we've done today. In fact, I... Maybe those movies get pretty hard hitting. Watch The Chosen and tell me if it's a soft lens. Well, it is a soft lens because we are not taking the critical view of the Savior's mission.

[00:49:29] It's trying to present it in a way that it can be digested by a large audience around the world. And so it's hard hitting in that sense. But a lot of these guys think it's got to be gritty and it's got to be, you know, angry. And it's got to be, you know, all these, you know, violence and explosions and everything. It's presented in a very kind of a way that allows people to kind of bring it into their life.

[00:49:59] Probably a lot of different people take it in different ways in The Chosen, but it's not something that just is in your face. You can take it or leave it. And that's, I think, what life really kind of usually is, you know. Well, and it's a way to really make a difference. And, you know, we're starting to branch out as the liberty movement gets bigger and you take people who used to be liberal and become conservative. And, you know, you've got to look at people exactly where they are.

[00:50:26] And some of these people may not be as far along, but they get the ideas. And now it's up to people like us to foster them, to encourage them, to support them, to love them, to befriend them, and to guide them and train them, help them understand. And, you know, it's all that kind of stuff. Two quick stories before the end of the hour. Remember, Kash Patel confirmed as FBI director. What do you think of that, doctor? And then Judge rejects challenge of the firing of government employees. So Trump can fire employees. Judge says, I won't stop it.

[00:50:55] And Kash Patel got nominated. In my mind, two good news pieces. Well, the second one first, the idea that Trump says, okay, we'll honor these injunctions against us and we'll continue to fight them and we'll prevail. And that's a very reasonable approach to how he's doing this. And it's actually playing out that way. There's a delay and it's not moving as fast as, you know, some people would say it ought to happen.

[00:51:20] But it's a way that is, it's got to be, hey, we won fair and square. Let's just go ahead with this. Okay. So we would have expected that outcome. In fact, I always did expect that outcome. But it just takes a few more weeks to get it through the system. The Kash Patel thing was a very interesting discussion we had, I think, last night on the webinar that many of those that are opposing it are opposing it for the most asinine reasons.

[00:51:49] You know, the fact, oh, he was never an FBI agent. He doesn't know. Well, maybe we need somebody from the outside to look at this thing. The FBI is the luster of the FBI has been, if there was ever supposed to be one, because it's an unconstitutional process that they've morphed into. But they need somebody that somehow you look at the senior leadership who isn't tainted that's there now. And I'm sure there's probably some that are not tainted. I just don't know them.

[00:52:19] And the rank and file agents, I think a lot of them will welcome another view. But the lame brain, you know, traditional media guys are saying, oh, these guys are not going to survive there under this new guy, this Kash Patel guy. You know what? I think many of them and some of the FBI agents I've known have chafed under the politicized view,

[00:52:45] the weaponized view that the FBI has come into, where they're going out and they're getting, I mean, they're violating the Constitution for crying out loud, but with warrants that are not warrantable, if you will. You know, you think about what happened with, you know, the FISA 702 stuff and everything during the Trump campaign. These FBI agents that are really, truly patriots to try and preserve everything we love about this country, they're going, holy cow.

[00:53:14] Our own people are violating what we took an oath to uphold. So I, but the lame brain traditional media is just having a stroke over this thing with Kash Patel. And they were so sad that, you know, Mitch McConnell didn't cross over and maybe another Republican and they would have lost and everything. But it remains to be seen what all is going to come out of this.

[00:53:38] But let's hope that there are some major changes to kind of bring this, reign this thing in that's been a rogue agency for too many years now. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Wow, I almost choked to death. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. I know it's a softer side. I get it.

[00:54:12] Wow, I get it, ladies and gentlemen. It's a softer side in some ways. At the same time, the liberty movement gets bigger. And when it gets bigger, you have people that aren't as educated and as dedicated and as experienced to be solid true blue. How do we enlarge the tent and not lose our values in the process? That's really the question.

[00:54:32] And the answer is to guide these people and to love them and defend them and protect them and, you know, help them learn how to get their sea legs under them and promote God, family and country. Thanks, everybody. LovingLiberty.net. God save the republic.