Radio Show Hour 2 – 02/19/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard-hitting news the network refused to use and no doubt continues now. This is the broadcast for February the 19th in the year of our Lord 2025. This is Hour 2 of 2, and that means James Edwards with me.

[00:00:41] ThePoliticalSesspool.org, his website, his incredible book, Racism Schmaisism. We're talking about hypocrisy in the 21st century and more. KFC to move corporate headquarters from Kentucky to Texas. Just trying to save money on taxes. When are these crazy states going to get a clue, man? Hey, people want freedom. People want to be left alone. People don't want to be taxed into oblivion, ladies and gentlemen. All right. Just understand that and be clear.

[00:01:09] Trump is cutting thousands of IRS employees. That's great news. This comes a day, a single day after Elon Musk announced Doge has begun their audit of the IRS. You know, how do they like being audited for a change? And I think we need to abolish the organization, though. It's literally been criminal for so long. It's been a weaponized government unconstitutional agency. Shut that sucker down. All right. I want to move to another interesting topic, James.

[00:01:38] And I want to get your take on this topic. Headline says this. Lawmakers rally for AM radio for every vehicle act. The National Association of Broadcasters is kind of the one focusing on this thing. And so, you know, what do you think about Congress mandating a law? This is what I mean by Congress is out to lunch on this. Donald's doing a tremendous job. But I look at this and I go, what the heck is up with these people?

[00:02:07] But lawmakers are calling for AM radio in every vehicle by law, James. What do you think? I mean, I thought that cars did have AM radio. Well, they do. But now the car makers are wanting to take them out in the next generation of vehicles. Oh, interesting. I didn't even know that. So Congress is rioting now and saying, hold on a minute. Wait, we've got to pass a law that says you've got to have an AM radio in every vehicle. And I get the debate. I understand the debate. What they would say is, listen, in emergency times, you really need an AM radio. And I can see some of that.

[00:02:37] At the same time, Congress doesn't have any authority to mandate a radio be in my car. Well, I mean, you know, I guess. Where do they get authority to mandate I have a radio in my car? Pretty soon they'll say you have to have a toothbrush in your bathroom, James. Well, which probably wouldn't be a bad idea, nor would having the radio be a bad idea. Well, the idea is a good one. The mandate is the bad idea. Okay?

[00:03:02] I agree that if you want to have this debate publicly in society and encourage car makers to have an AM radio for legitimate reasons, hey, look at the hurricanes that have come across and how valuable it was for people to get information and how great of a job the broadcasters did for that. I get pushing for it. I support a radio, an AM radio in cars. I don't think it's time to let AM radio go. At the same time, I'm not foremandating it at the government level, James. Well, you know, of course, it could be good for safety.

[00:03:28] AM radio could reach in places where potentially, you know, your phone battery. I mean, I think they had a mandate that Liberty News Radio is in every single car. Well, there you go. Well, you know, I think, you know, Trump was quoting Napoleon earlier this week, which was, I think, fitting. He said if it's good for the country, it cannot be against the law. So that was a Napoleon quote. But, yeah, so we should probably ask for that. But, no, I mean, you know, listen, I guess of all the issues, that would be a nitpicky one. But, of course, you can understand.

[00:03:58] Hold on. I get the point. This is what Congress is spending their time on right now, James. Oh, yeah. Well, it should definitely. There's definitely other things. See the point. Okay. Well, I think, yes, there are other issues that probably rank above that one. Of course, I would imagine the left would like to see AM radio gone because it is dominated by, you know, right-of-center people. But I tell you, talking about all this stuff going on, I mean, where do you even start? Talking about Napoleon.

[00:04:25] You know, I think, for all of its purposes, the war in Ukraine is just about to wind down. That's another thing that we have nobody's even talking about with all the other stuff, with all the bloodletting and the bureaucracy. And then Putin and Trump are going to be meeting. But Russia diplomats and the United States diplomats met yesterday, and Zelensky wasn't invited. This goes straight to Napoleon.

[00:04:47] There was a time when Napoleon met, I think, one of the Russian leaders in a boat on a river, and the king of Prussia was told to wade over on the shore. He couldn't even go back to the meeting. That was like Zelensky yesterday. So, I mean, there was just so much happening. So much happening. Well, and that's why I'm saying, are we really going to talk about AM radio? Yeah, exactly. That's the reason I brought that up. Are you kidding me right now? I mean, whether we want it in a radio or not. Look, that's not even a discussion for right now.

[00:05:15] What Congress needs to do is they need to create at least, at the least, a resolution, better yet, an appropriate law that says, hey, you know what? Doge has the authority to carry out this mission. President Trump has every obligation to scrutinize the expenses under his leadership. He is the CEO. He's also the CFO, the chief financial officer of the country.

[00:05:38] And if he's going to spend money in the Constitution that says that he needs to execute, you know, all with faithfulness to the Constitution, he has an obligation to make sure every expenditure is correct. But what we need right now, because they're debating it and they're trying to undermine it with the courts, we need Congress to stand up and give the president. I don't want to give him increased authority, but back that plan and say, listen, that's right. We allocated money to be spent and we want to make sure that it's spent properly and good for Donald.

[00:06:08] All presidents should have done this since the beginning of time. Congress needs to step up right now, James. Speaking of money and it being spent properly and money in general, I mean, this was something I saw the other day. I agree with you 100 percent. Obviously, there's not even anything else for me to add to that. Yes. But Elon Musk pushing Ron Paul to be the Fed chair. So you had a trifecta there.

[00:06:33] You had Charlie Kirk, Mike Lee and Elon Musk all together pushing for Ron Paul to be the head of the Fed. And I say, oh, we need Trump's authorization. Let's go. Well, here's the here's the thing. So I'm reading from Barron's magazine. This is the headline. Ron Paul wants to lay bare the Fed's inner workings. Musk is pushing him as Fed chair. And then the sub headline reads in an interview with Barron's.

[00:06:58] Paul called for an audit of the Fed that would reveal how the central bank conducts its monetary policy. And so again, now, look, I mean, Ron Paul is 89 years old. I texted Lou Moore. Ron Paul's former campaign manager. Good friend of mine. Good friend of yours, Sam. And now he's got his program on this network. And if you're not listening to Hour of Decision, and by the way, folks, you should. And if you listened to a couple of episodes ago, you're going to catch none other than Sam Bushman there with Lou Moore. And I listened to all of that one, and it was wonderful.

[00:07:28] But Lou Moore ran his historic presidential campaign in 2008. And I texted Lou about these headlines that prop up this week. He said it would be the quickest career ever. Ron would fly to Washington, shut it down in one day, and then retire. But if he could have his way. Amen to that. But I'm telling you, I support this 1,000%. And look, when you get Elon Musk, Mike Lee, Ron Paul, Rand Paul.

[00:07:58] Rand Paul, yeah. All in a room together and say, let's take on the Fed. You've never had such mojo. Now, this was started by Patrick Buchanan. This was started by Ron Paul, highlighting this as necessary in modern times or whatever. I pray this gets done. Well, I was looking. I was looking. Let's just say it did get done. I mean, because this is serious. I mean, Elon Musk isn't really one. Yes, he baits and he triggers and he does things to spark media.

[00:08:27] But he doesn't really talk about things that he doesn't do. I haven't really seen a lot of examples of that. Normally, when he says something, it's sad. The only time that he does that is when it comes to his business. And in defense of his business, you know, he's trying new, untested things. He's a world-class scientist. He's a world-class entrepreneur to the point where when he tries sometimes new things, sometimes it doesn't go as well as he had hoped. So he talks about a lot of technologies that don't come to fruition. You can't fault him for that.

[00:08:56] That's what entrepreneurs do. That's what scientists and people who bring new technology to the table do. Sometimes things work out like you expect. Sometimes things don't. Sometimes other technologies supplant this. So what's this new Chinese AI thing called? What's that new thing called? Oh, yeah. I don't know the name of it. I've seen it. I have to look up the name of that thing. Anyway, Elon Musk has already said he's already created a better mousetrap than theirs that was supposedly disruptive. I believe he's probably correct, James. Right.

[00:09:24] When you're talking about theoretical things in terms of business and future projects and things you might want to do. Yeah, you've got to give him a pass for those things is what I'm saying. It's called DeepSeek. DeepSeek is the Chinese. So DeepSeek took the world by storm, said even though you deny us chips, we can develop this technology with much less chips, many less computer chips, much less expense. And the whole world freaked a couple of weeks ago about that. Now Elon Musk has already came back and said, oh, I just beat DeepSeek. Yeah, I mean, he is a genius. He is a world-changing figure.

[00:09:53] There's just no doubt about it in business and technology and now in politics. I mean, space exploration. But this thing about – well, I didn't look. I mean, yeah, talking about when he says something, he doesn't. It went from Twitter poll about auditing the IRS to they were in the building within a week. But this thing about Ron Paul, of course, is, you know – Yeah, that's better than Elvis' in the building, James. I don't think it's total smoke and hyperbole. I think he's probably interested on some levels in Ron Paul doing this.

[00:10:23] The only thing is Ron Paul is 89 years old. I was looking, you know, Ron Paul is 89, Pat is 86, and if they're pushing 90, that means I'm a lot older. I understand that Ron Paul is still doing a news show every day, though, James. Well, I mean, you could – look, Frankie Valli is 90 and he's still on a rock and roll tour. Yeah, he still seems better than James does, I'm saying right now. So, no, there are some people who can still function at 90, whereas I'll be gathered into my father's probably decades prior to hitting that mark.

[00:10:51] But anyway, no, I mean, imagine – my God, Sam, imagine Ron Paul as the Fed chair. Basically, that was like one of the three entire pillars of his whole campaign. Now, again, would he just go and shut it down? That's what he always said he would do. You know, maybe that's what they want. Again, part of this is such red tape, though, and part of this you get all these weird, you know, left-field lawsuits and this and that, and it might be harder to shut down than we did.

[00:11:20] But if you have – Yeah. Number one, you'd get education about the proper role of constitutional currency and the moral hazard of dishonest money. You would get that at the least, James. So maybe that's the other side of it. If it can't be shut down, how about letting this guy be in charge of it and, you know, reforming it and using it for good to the extent that it can be? I mean, that's the other thing. What gave government – what gave the senators and congressmen and what gave them the ability to delegate that authority?

[00:11:49] The Constitution says the authority to make coins and determine the value thereof and all that is generally a congressional responsibility. Who gave them responsibility to send it to some third-party clown banking cartel? That's right. And then to create it like the Coke recipe. Like, no one knows how they come up with this stuff, right? It's like more secret than the Coke recipe, James. Well, that's right. That's what they're saying is, hey, you can't have that going on. But when you start tinkering with these organizations, that's when you have political assassinations. That's when you have world wars.

[00:12:17] I mean, this is getting straight to the heart of everything when you start talking about central banking. Amen. My response to this, honesty demands it, James. Sometimes accountability demands it. You know, that really would be the only thing that could stop this party train right now that I can see is the assassinations of people like Trump and Musk, God forbid. You know, but I'll tell you what has happened before. I pray everybody stays alive. I don't even want to assassinate our enemies.

[00:12:47] I want everybody to be peaceful. I wish some of our enemies who are clown shows would just go home like Mitch McConnell and Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and just retire in peace, please. But there's an interesting tidbit that I think is worthy of discussion now that we're talking about Ron Paul for a second. Headline from Ron Paul. This is his latest article. So he prolific. He's a prolific writer, even still, even though he's 89 years old. And he does a news show that's incredible. And I keep track of his stuff every week. Okay.

[00:13:14] Because Lowell Nelson Campaign for Liberty dot org is the Utah chair for Ron Paul's organization and is on the radio with me weekly. But anyway, I digress, except to say this. Ron Paul wrote an article that says this. Ron Paul, quote, can we really cut half of the military budget? You bet, says Ron.

[00:13:37] Ron Paul, quote, can we cut half of the military budget? Do you know how much we spend in the military every year, James? Tell me. Trillion dollars.

[00:14:07] A trillion. And so if we cut half of it, according to Ron Paul, hey, I'm interested in saving $500 billion and decreasing our military. We don't need to be the world's police force. We can defend the homeland and defend the greatest country on the face of the earth. And we can even have the Monroe Doctrine to prevent marching to our doors and all that kind of stuff. But we don't need to run around and fund all these things. Get rid of a half of a trillion dollars. And that's just talking military.

[00:14:37] We haven't even talked foreign aid from USA that we can get rid of. I mean, right now, the target environment is incredibly rich. And I think that Elon Musk probably had an idea of how much it could be potentially cut. Not necessarily realistically, but it was going to be a ballpark probably on the high end of the ceiling of it. But even if you get anywhere in that universe of cuts, it's going to be great.

[00:15:04] And as he has said, you know, individuals can go bankrupt and so can nations. And it's amazing that America hasn't. We need to start challenging at the state level, too, ladies and gentlemen, and just saying, hey, you states shouldn't be receiving money from the federal government at all. That's an upside down scenario that's had purse strings attached and control and manipulation attached for decades, a.k.a. the Education Department, for starters, James. Yep, that's exactly right. I mean, and again, you're talking about organizations now that can actually be shut down.

[00:15:33] I mean, you know, how did Americans ever compete and learn anything before there was a federal Department of Education to indoctrinate? Well, they actually knew how to read before that, James. Was it better? You know, were people, were Americans more intelligent? I think, you know, certainly you can go back even to within the last century and you would find people at a junior high and early high school level

[00:15:56] that had more knowledge and intelligence than, you know, obviously the vast majority of even college age students now. So, listen, again, I mean, we're saying now, you know, go, go, go, go, go. Oh, wait, you know, let's do this, this, this. And maybe that's coming. I mean, who knows what's coming because it's only been a month. You know, it seems like there has been enough that has happened in this month that would have been a pretty busy four-year administration for any other president.

[00:16:26] It's only been a month. I mean, where does it go from here? Now, I'm not for any increased expenditures, James. I'm really not. Except for one area. Headline. Tom Holman has said that mass deportation is going to cost $86 billion. I support the expense, James. I cut out just for a second. What was the expense? Tom Holman says that mass deportation is going to cost $86 billion. And I would say that I approve the expenditure, sir.

[00:16:55] Of course we would approve that because it's going to save you money in the long term. It's paying more. It's paying a little bit up front to save a lot more later because the cost of these people on your account. Well, how much are we spending yearly on illegals across the country? It's more than $86 billion, I think, anyway. Exactly. You know, again, I mean, one of the things that I've talked about in the past is not only give them a ride home, but, I mean, you could even give them a stipend. To encourage them to leave voluntarily.

[00:17:26] I mean, there's a lot. And even that, I mean, that's probably pushing it a little bit, but even that is debatable. But in terms of the increased up front expense to facilitate their remigration, absolutely. That's something you need to spend up front because it's going to save you exponentially more down the line in terms of social services and welfare and all of the other set-asides and goodies they've been getting. So, yeah, that's a no-brainer.

[00:17:54] 1,500 to 2,500 precious unborn babies are murdered by Planned Parenthood, James. And, you know, we need to defund murder falsely labeled as abortion. We need to defund Planned Parenthood once and for all. And myself and Sheriff Richard Mack and others are working on a national press release to this effect. Let's just defund Planned Parenthood today, James. We need to use that money to go ahead and kick the illegals out of the country. What do you say?

[00:18:23] I would love to see that done on a federal level, no doubt about it. But I think, you know, this may be another thing where you see happen on a statewide level where the Republican states, which is going to be the majority of the country, already is. I mean, you know, the Democrats get all their electoral votes from New York and California. And so, you know, if you look at the country, it's blood red except for just a handful of states.

[00:18:48] So if you even kick these things back, which has already happened with abortion, by the way, basically, I mean, the red states, the Republican states are it's very difficult for you to murder your baby in those states now. Whereas, of course, before the Supreme Court ruling, you know, it was wide open. And so you could have something on that level with this issue, too, where just with Planned Parenthood or whatever, just gets kicked back to the states.

[00:19:20] Well, all I can say is I hope so. Trump officially calls for the end of the income tax, maybe the first POTUS in history to ever do so. This can't be taken lightly either, James. So I think we might just might get rid of the IRS. We might replace it with something more refreshing. None of us mind paying our fair share of taxes to fund the proper role of government, James. What we don't want is waste and what we don't want is the Gestapo coming down on us as a political weapon. Take away those realities.

[00:19:50] And you know what? We're not as anti-government as they claim, are we? Not at all. We're anti-abusive government. We're anti-tyrannical government. But we're not opposed to a – and I'm not saying that, you know, Trump is running a Christian, you know, administration, but they are friendly to Christians. We're Christian than the administrations I've seen lately, I'll tell you that. Exactly right. Exactly right. Certainly open and favorable. And no, so you're not against that.

[00:20:20] But I would say, I mean, could you imagine? And of course, as anybody who knows anything knows, and there's not entirely a lot of Americans who know much anymore, but this listening audience is certainly an exception, the income tax, the federal income tax does not always exist. And in fact, in the history of the republic, it's a relatively new thing. And if we got by without it before, and Trump has mentioned this, certainly we could do it again. Why not? Yeah, and the sooner the better is all I can say. But there's good news.

[00:20:49] There's good news on this pro-life issue, though, because Senator Josh Hawley introduced what's called the Anti-Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act. I guess – let me say this act again. I hate how they give these big, long names to things. Yeah, yeah. All right, this thing is called Abortion Providers – or let's see – to end taxpayer funding for Abortion Providers Act.

[00:21:19] And the bill would defund Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers across the nation. And so I called my congressman, and I said, can you please introduce a companion bill in the House? And I'm waiting for them to come back. They say, you know, defunding Planned Parenthood, easy to say, hard to do, writes NPR back in 2017. I am 100% for this. Just shut it down, James. Shut it down. That's a mojo and a bill to do it. Yeah, just shut down the funding entirely.

[00:21:50] Shut it down, take it away. And you've got me so excited about this prospect because it has been floated. I mean, this isn't something like, well, wow, everything is going so good. How about what if this could possibly happen? And I'm talking about, of course, getting rid of the federal income tax. That has been something that has been mentioned by Trump. And I'm not so sure that this whole thing about going into the IRS, what if they go in there,

[00:22:19] and it wouldn't be unimaginable to imagine that they find just rampant corruption and political persecution and everything else. And then they will. Hold on. Hold on. Steve Stockman, our dear friend, was the one that called the whistle on Lois Lerner back in the day. That's the big reason they put Steve Stockman in jail over the very, very, very topic. So all you've got to get is a guy like Steve Stockman, have him testify on Capitol Hill and dig into this thing under the direction of Steve Stockman. And he'll, I'm telling you right now, he'll show you where the dead bodies are, buddy.

[00:22:48] And you could just get to the bottom of this sucker and you'll find out exactly what you're saying is the facts. See you again. See, here again. All right. I'll take that at face value. When they find this sort of corruption, because Steve Stockman, excellent case for you to bring up. I'm glad you thought about that. And Lois Lerner should be in prison right now, people. And that's just one. And wouldn't he like to be the poster boy for the dismantling of the IRS as he should be? But I'm just saying, let's just say when they go in there and they find all this.

[00:23:19] And again, you know, when you're talking about. All the people murdered by legal aliens, you don't you don't give blanket statistics. You you you pair it down to one Lake and Riley. OK, that's one. And then, you know, there have been other cases where you've had other legislations, but you tie it to a single case that people can relate to. Puts a name and a face to the to the cause. And, you know, so maybe Steve Stockman will be the case for this or there'll be something else where somebody was politically persecuted.

[00:23:46] And they use this as sort of like the impetus to to go after the IRS. And they find this this corruption. And then they shut down the organization as a result of these findings and abolish the income tax. If they abolish the income tax, you know, I couldn't ever see how this party would lose. For as long as that went elections well into the future. That's for sure. Again, I'm all for the tariffs, but I'm not for tariffs on top of the current abuse we have.

[00:24:15] Get rid of the income tax, replace it with tariffs. And now we're getting somewhere. We're moving back to the constitutionality of our founders. That's what's something we've been pushing for for literally decades on your radio. It is about God, family and country. It is about accountability and transparency. It is about punishing the bad guys and putting them in jail and freeing the good people everywhere to stand for the constitution. Hang tight. You're listening to Liberty Roundtable Live with James Edwards and yours truly on your radio.

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[00:25:19] A country is no different from an individual in that if an individual overspends, an individual can go bankrupt. And so can a country. Musk and the president interviewed by Fox News host Sean Hannity. Mr. Trump says he inherited a $2 trillion annual deficit from the Biden administration. That's what he faced when he assumed office last month, along with inflation that remains stubbornly high. Fourteen Democrat state attorneys general have failed in a bid to halt the work of Doge.

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[00:30:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Live and on your radio, ladies and gentlemen, James Edwards, ThePoliticalSesspool.org. Check out his award-winning broadcast every Saturday night or on demand at your heart's content. Liberty is available. ThePoliticalSesspool.org. Listen up. You'll enjoy the broadcast. James, how many prisoners do you think the United States has in America?

[00:30:44] Oh, that's a great question. This is like the Price is Right closest without going over. I couldn't even begin to imagine. More than any other country for sure, but I don't know how many. About 1.2 million. Wow. Okay? The number's just gargantuan. We're way above any other nation, including the communists, okay? Anyway, how much do you think it costs on the average to keep a prisoner in prison per year? Do you have any idea about that? I saw this not long ago.

[00:31:10] It's about the same, I believe, as the average American income. All right. The average is between $30,000 and $60,000 a year. Yeah. It just depends on, you know, the details of, you know, what, you know, how locked down the prison is. I can't remember the term for that, but anyway, it depends on how tight the prison is. It depends on all kinds of different things, okay? So I'm going to just take 40. $60,000 a year. So, you know, if it's on the high end of that, that's certainly more than the average American income.

[00:31:39] Yeah. Yeah. And I'm going to take the average of $45,000 because that's right in the middle. $30,000 to $60,000, I'll take $45,000. $45,000 times 1.2 million prisoners, James. $54 million a year alone. That's not even counting the illegals, buddy. Anyway, I bring all this up because this is another example where what we need to do is work on prison reform in America. Anybody who's in prison that's not violent really ought not be there, James.

[00:32:07] You can use ankle bracelets and modern technology and everything else and probation officers. And why not have them at home where we don't have to spend money on them? And out of that $54 million that I just mentioned, what about all those who could actually bring taxpayer dollars in because they can work and support their families? And, I mean, untold, unless somebody's literally violent where they're not safe on the streets, why have them imprisoned at our expense in the first place? Why?

[00:32:35] A blindfold and a cigarette is cheaper than all of it. But. Well, there you go. But I'm just saying, you look at that and you go, that alone. I mean, I can just point to item after item. So the reason that I bring this up for Doge is because Doge literally asked the American people, what other ways do you think we can look at this? And I'm going to look at it and say, why don't we free a bunch of prisoners? I mean, we're supposed to be the freest nation in the world, not the most prisoned nation in the world. OK, so let's start there. Do prison reform.

[00:33:03] I mean, even Kim Kardashian and everybody else is going to be aboard for this. And look, all the nonviolent criminals. Why should they be in prison? Well, all right. So nonviolent. Well, OK. So what about the violent ones, though? Well, you got you got to send them to Guantanamo Bay or send them to, you know, some of these places or keep them in our prisons. I'm not saying everybody should be released. Yeah. But but the nonviolent ones. Why should they be in prison, James? What good is it going to do to have them in there? Right. At our expense.

[00:33:32] What good does that do? Well, I think we should definitely let people who are in prison from the IRS. Probably the Chris. OK, go home. OK, but what about the ones who go home? What about the ones that add marijuana? No, whatever. Yeah. Well, that's illegal now, isn't it? But I get your point. I get your point. Or what about, you know, ones that got caught in some kind of financial issue? You know, most of those people, you know, you can say they can't have a license to operate in the financial world.

[00:34:02] You can say a lot of things. Hey, you're going to have an ankle bracelet. You're on probation. Whatever. You know, you're at a house arrest. You can't leave your house. Or will know. I mean, I don't have any problem with continuing sentences for some of the wrongs done. But putting them in prison where we have to feed them horrible food and subject them to violent thugs. What's the value of doing that? No, that's right. No, I would be OK with that. I haven't really thought about that issue. I mean, what the other got a dear friend of mine. I'm telling you right now, he's a friend of mine like you are, James. He's been to my house. We've eaten dinner together.

[00:34:30] We've I've literally helped him through some financial negotiation deals for his business. And great, great, great guy. Not a big guy. Just a small guy. Never committed a single act of violence in his life. Never done anything. OK, he got on the wrong side of the IRS. Now they've already stolen his home. And now he's in prison with hardened thug criminals and gang members right now to the point where they had to throw in the hole called solitary confinement because they threatened him. These thug gang threatened him. And so the prison's decision was, hey, put this guy in the hole.

[00:34:59] And so now he's in solitary confinement. But yet, I guess that's a blessing because it's better than being out with the guys that want to rape him in prison. Right. And everything else. And so you go, why is this even happening in America? Does that mean this is it? Well, you know, it's solitary confinement is just so psychologically damaging. I mean, if anybody's ever read reports on that, if you spend more than a few days in there, I mean, you start to deteriorate, you know, weeks and months. Yeah, but that's what we've got going on in America now. You might not ever come back. Well, no. So, yes.

[00:35:28] So things like, well, and just to give another example to where people can, yeah, running afoul of the IRS and you're going to prison for years. Yeah, there can be other punishments, restitution, home arrest or whatever. How about these J6ers? Even service hours, you know. And I don't have any problem. I'm not saying that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying there can't be accountability. What I'm saying, though, is you've got a lot of these people that are literally in prison with these hardened thugs. Well, here's the other thing with regards to all right.

[00:35:57] So there's that. Yes. People who went to Charlottesville, they're doing, you know, years and years in prison, J6 years and years in prison. But they weren't violent. They just ran afoul of the government and the government made examples of them. Yes. You know, if there is a true crime and it's not just political persecution, restitution, house arrest, community service, whatever. But then, you know, you're talking about these violent people.

[00:36:23] If you are guilty of murder and maybe even rape, take one of these, you know, young thugs from Chicago inner city or something like that. You know, so, you know, let's just say they murder somebody when, you know, they're in their 20s. You've got to they have to be executed. I believe that.

[00:36:42] I mean, why are you going to, you know, if some guy kills some little kid in a drive by and the bullet, you know, inadvertently hits, you know, some kid, he's got to die. I mean, why would you let him, why would you pay to house him and feed him and take care, give him medical care for the next 50, 60 years until he dies of old age, which happens all the time? I mean, that's the other extreme to this thing you're talking about.

[00:37:09] If you if you have more executions for capital crimes, which, you know, I think that should be something that's that's, you know, very much discussed again. And then you you don't put the violent offenders. You're definitely going to cut into that budget as well. You know, we spent a lot of time on this, but that's the way you cut into it. Yeah. And they say that about violent criminals and they say that just over half of the prisoners in prison, 50, 50 to 60 percent are there for violent reasons.

[00:37:37] So in my opinion, you know, you've got about 500,000 people or 700,000 people that you could just literally let out of prison and deal with way less expensive ways to deal with their crimes. And there would be no harm to society if you did that. In fact, you would prevent innocent people from being abused or or being turned into prisoners. So my friend isn't going to be a prison. I mean, isn't going to be a criminal. He just doesn't believe in it, but he might get harmed and abused and and suffer unnecessarily.

[00:38:03] What's the value of doing that to two thousand hundreds of thousands of of Americans? So anyway, my whole point to Doge, if you guys are listening, you want to survey or you want to know what we think. That's what I think. I think if you could have on President Trump's watch, he would be the president of freedom forever. Hey, I let out all nonviolent criminals and I went ahead and put plans in place to reform the prison system. It's not now a get rich jail scheme.

[00:38:33] It's it's it's it's a reality when when people are bad, they got to be separated from society. But the rest don't, even if they've made mistakes or done wrong. And it's a huge, huge, huge opportunity to save money and put President Trump in the driver's seat for the president of freedom in modern times. Anyway, I digress. You could definitely you could definitely cut down on that one point five million by doing your scheme on on one hand.

[00:38:57] And then more swift capital punishment for the if we're sure about that. And it's not here saying, you know, we've got to make sure evidence isn't tainted. And that's one of some of the big problems, too. But if we're really positive and sure, I agree 100 percent by all means. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying we don't need to be spending this kind of money and be known as the greatest prisoner nation in the world. That's what I got grace. I got one for you just came in, just came in while we were on the air talking about saving money.

[00:39:25] This just came in on the air while we were on the air. Trump is doing some sort of a press briefing right now. And it looks like he's 100 percent done with Zelensky. He cites martial law in Ukraine, refusal to seek peace, lack of elections and a four percent approval rating as the reasons that only the U.S. and Russia are at the negotiating table. So this war is ending. And how much money is that going to save? And Trump just released a statement on truth social. And this is what it reads talking about saving money. How much money is this going to save?

[00:39:52] This is what Donald Trump wrote just a little while ago. Think of it. A modestly successful comedian, Vladimir Zelensky, talked the United States into spending three hundred fifty billion dollars to go to a war that couldn't be won, that never had to start. But a war that he without Trump and the United States will never be able to settle. The United States has spent two hundred billion dollars more than Europe. And your money is guaranteed while the United States will get nothing back.

[00:40:20] Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden demand equalization in that this war is far more important to Europe than it is to us? We have a big, beautiful oceanist separation. On top of this, Zelensky. Listen to this, Sam. It goes directly to what you're talking about. On top of this, Zelensky admits that half the money we sent him is missing. He refuses to have elections. It's very low in Ukrainian polls. And the only thing he was good at was playing Biden like a fiddle.

[00:40:45] And he said that Zelensky wants to keep the gravy train going. I love Ukraine, but Zelensky has done a terrible job and his country is shattered and millions have died unnecessarily. So it's all, you know, that's a big amount of money. That's not going to be the funding for that immediately. But I would say for Donald, hey, you need to get out of the middle of that. You don't belong in the middle of that war in the first place. You have no authority for that war in the first place. So quit spending the money and back away for sure.

[00:41:13] And the sooner you do it, the better. All right. The U.S. House, James, is in the news. There's a group called the D.C. Daily Journal. I don't know if you're familiar with them, but the D.C. Daily Journal has the goods here. Headline says U.S. House drops mind-blowing expose implicating Joe Biden in treason. That's the latest headline.

[00:41:40] The dirt on the Biden admin is coming fast and furious. Admin meaning administration. It's worse than anyone thought, says the headline. Because the U.S. House just dropped a mind-blowing expose that implicates Joe Biden in treason. China, I guess, has an espionage campaign going on. They call it China's growing espionage campaign under Joe Biden's watch is what they're saying. They say it's growing and growing and growing.

[00:42:12] Two years ago, they say revelations emerged suggesting that Joe Biden's family had received millions of dollars in payments linked to communist China bringing up concerns. Now, they say, as new evidence emerges, hey, they've got evidence now Joe Biden's guilty of treason. Question for you. Is it real, James? Number one. Number two. Do you think anything's really going to happen?

[00:42:42] Again, a lot of times the old saying is certainly true. When something seems too good to be true, it usually is. However, a lot of things have been delivered on in just this first short month that would lead you to believe that things have changed. Now, would he go after Biden?

[00:43:01] I mean, politically speaking, there was probably a reason, by the way, that Biden pardoned everyone he ever met before he left office, all of his associates and kids and everything else, probably because they were involved in treason. That wouldn't surprise me at all. And I don't think that's too direct of a word. But politically speaking, Trump is rolling to such an extent. Would they deserve it? Yeah. Yeah.

[00:43:30] But, you know, you're going after at this point, you know, somebody that for years now should have been in a nursing home, probably doesn't know what planet he's on. I just, you know, it would be a bad look politically. Should he be going to prison for treason? Probably. But I don't know. But I don't think so. And I'll tell you why. Because he pardoned a bunch of people that should be going into prison in his stead who have taken advantage of him as well. He should be on our side on this thing. That's true.

[00:43:58] So listen carefully to the point, the details they provide here. The House Homeland Security Committee issued their report just last week. And it sheds light on China's growing surveillance efforts documenting more than 60 espionage operations across 20 U.S. states, James. Hmm.

[00:44:25] So you can say, well, it'll be a bad look. Well, I say you get Joe on the stand that if he's not competent to tell you the story, then you say he's also not competent to provide pardons for these people. Okay. But it happened on Joe's watch.

[00:44:52] And either Joe knows about it and he's competent or he's not. We need to know that once and for all. Because, I mean, Joe still says he could have won and he's just fine. See? The Democrats said he was just fine until they said he wasn't. Even Mike Johnson for a year knew he wasn't fine but kept his mouth shut as if he was. Okay. So we've got a lot of people's heads that need to roll over this thing. And if Joe's not competent, fine. Let him go home peacefully and let Jill take care of him. Good. Good.

[00:45:18] However, all these other people can't be shielded by Joe that's incompetent to stand trial for his own actions, much less anybody else. Okay. You can't have it both ways. And somebody's got to bring truth to power on this thing. And they've got to do it now. You've got China's growing espionage campaign being used against the United States flourishing under the Joe Biden administration, James. Yeah, that's a good point.

[00:45:38] And I do believe the story about what Mike Johnson said about Joe having no idea what he was signing and what he was doing perhaps the entire time, but certainly the last year or more. And you bring up a very good point. If he didn't know what bills he was signing or executive orders and things of that nature that he was signing. Well, Mike Johnson testifies he didn't have a clue. And I believe that.

[00:46:06] That's totally believable just as an observer. And the way Mike told that story with such detail, it's totally, totally believable. I would almost certainly take that as true. And if that's the case, you could certainly bring up the argument. If he had no presence of mind and no agency and didn't know what he was doing, how could he – how can these pardons hold up? I mean, if you wanted to fight that battle, and I don't know if you want to do that right now because you're steamrolling them at every turn. But if you did, you could make that argument.

[00:46:35] Well, Congress is doing nothing, so they might as well do something, is all I can say. So there you have that. But listen carefully to more details about this. Chinese espionage in the United States under Joe Biden. Listen carefully. These operations have exposed the sheer scale of Beijing's ongoing efforts to steal America's intellectual property and military technologies,

[00:47:01] raising the alarm that Joe Biden and team has literally created a serious crisis in America. Okay? You had that Chinese spy balloon that flew over, right? It was controversial, right? I remember that, yeah. Well, now they say it likely contained technologies from multiple U.S. companies, and that information likely stolen.

[00:47:30] There are still people that see China as our most favored nation trading partner. They're not that, notes Mark Green. I guess he's the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee and all this kind of stuff. He says, hey, the Chinese have a strategy for dominance. They want to take over the world. China's leadership under Xi Jinping or however you say it is clearly focused on a position of global dominance.

[00:48:00] And they want to reshape the world's order to their advantage. And what Joe and team has done is further those efforts like nobody's business. And so to counter these efforts, Green and others have been proactively raising awareness about this. Because, hey, if you're transferring sensitive, especially military technology, this isn't child's play. This must be dealt with in addition to federal measures.

[00:48:26] Green applauded the efforts of states like Texas and Virginia who have actually taken action to limit the use of some of these Chinese interventions. States need to act. Local governments need to act. And we need to understand that local governments are particularly vulnerable to Chinese cyber threats. Anyway, there you have it.

[00:48:54] I just look at this, James, and I go, wow, this is a real story. Unless we're not going to have accountability. Then it's not. So, Doge, I don't know how you do it, but you've got to look into this, too. Right? Yeah. A lot to do. A lot has happened. And since the floodgates are wide open now, you begin to wonder, well, where can we go from here and what more can be done? I mean, there's only so many hours in the day. I mean, you've got to imagine, you know, coming in.

[00:49:22] Imagine if you were coming in as the incoming president. You'd picked all of your lieutenants in your cabinet and you were getting ready to go to work. I mean, where would you even start? I mean, that's really, I think, where this administration has found itself. I mean, just corruption and rot at so many, on so many levels and in so many places. I think what they've been able to do so far has been amazing, and there's still so much more that could be done.

[00:49:51] And we'll see day by day and week by week and month by month over the next two to four years what they can do. But I'll tell you what, it's exciting. It's exciting to know that there is this appetite for change that we've never seen before. And it almost makes you elated and giddy to imagine where it goes from here. And I would temper that with reality because we've got to get the right things in place. And I don't criticize when I say we've got to temper with reality. I'm just saying we've got to get the support.

[00:50:19] So Congress really needs to double down and back the president here so that nobody can complain checks and balances were violated. But listen to the last phrase of this whole article, which I just find incredible. So Christopher Wray's a thug, as we all know, FBI former director. However, even FBI former director Christopher Wray recently called China's espionage activities, quote,

[00:50:42] the greatest long-term threat to our nation's information and intellectual properties and to our economic vitality. That's why we've got to take action on this seriously. Even the Democrats are starting to come to the table and acknowledge the problems that Joe has caused. That's right. Yep, we've seen it.

[00:51:04] And if you can clear Ukraine and Russia off the deck, that gives you more space to square up and stand toe-to-toe with China on, you know, what's certainly going to be not necessarily a military threat, but certainly is the other poll out there that, you know, you're going to be dealing with through trade and other measures as the world superpower.

[00:51:35] Where do we go from here, James? What do you think me and you can do to further the cause? In my mind, it's to really urge the American people to demand their congressmen and senators get involved and back President Trump in these efforts. That's what we should be doing. Any other thoughts? Continue to do what we've done. I mean, you know, we'll never know. The first one over the gate, the first one over the wall is going to always be the one that takes so much damage.

[00:51:59] But in taking that damage, it opens up opportunities for other people to move forward and succeed beyond the extent to which, you know, people like I have. But I would never believe that some of the things we say and some of our – well, certainly the things that we have said and the things that we have advocated for and on the radio all these years are basically state policy now.

[00:52:27] So continue to do that because you never know who's listening, whether credit is ever given or not. You know, thankfully I'm a collectivist when it comes to this and not after looking out for number one. And in the meantime, you know, explore different ways to tap into these current developments and how our ideas and issues can be advanced. You know, have meetings, get together with folks where you can have this exchange of ideas and solutions present themselves.

[00:52:56] But it's a whole new ballgame right now. And the opportunities for advancement exist in ways that have never been opened before. And I'm sure there are things that are out there that we have not even considered yet as we're still trying to come up with a consensus and wrap our minds around the way things are turning and turning so quickly over the course of the past month. So we'll continue to find out and let these things develop week to week. But it is exciting. Well, I'm going to say this. I'm going to make a very bold statement.

[00:53:26] I don't know how much, you know, President Trump understands about the Constitution. And a lot of the decisions he makes concerns me. For example, trying to take over Gaza and turning it into a playground for the rich. OK, whatever. I don't think we should be involved in that whatsoever. But I bring this up to say this. No matter what you think about President Trump or his intentions, he has done more to promote in the last 30 days of what I've been saying for the last 30 years

[00:53:55] than any single human on the planet. And that is not debatable. James, final thoughts to you. 20 seconds. And that means a lot coming from Sam Bushman. Because, of course, folks, as regular listeners of this broadcast and this network, Sam was, I don't want to use the word skeptical, Sam always was very objective when assessing Trump. He was not one of these Trump acolytes and sycophants. And so for him to say, hey, he's doing a good job now, that comes from a guy who always was very level-headed in his review of Trump.

[00:54:24] And let's make sure that we help Trump keep it up is my last statement. James Edwards, thank you so much. DeepPoliticalSessable.org. LovingLiberty.net. Spread the word. Share the love. Donate liberally and God save the Republic of the United States of America.