Radio Show Hour 2 – 02/06/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard-hitting news the networks refuse to use, no doubt continues now. This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for, wow, it's already February the 6th. In the year of our Lord, 2025. 2025.

[00:00:43] This is Hour 202. The goal all way is to protect life, liberty, and property, to promote God, family, and country. The Newswani Radio and the traditions of our founding fathers using the supreme law of the land, including the checks and balances, to make America great again. I want to make America moral again. I mean, great's one thing, but you know what? We're not going to have great unless we have moral. That's my humble opinion to which I'm entitled, right? Anyway, there you have it.

[00:01:10] There's so much going on in the news, it's really hard to focus. Last hour, I talked in great detail. We pray for success. Attorney General Pam Bondi, sworn in, vows to end the weaponization of the Justice Department. I pray for her success. I believe the Justice Department has been weaponized. And it's not just been Joe Biden. It's been years in the making.

[00:01:38] The problems we have in America have been years in the making. And really, it's not a political discussion, most of it. It's a moral discussion. We need to really understand that. I want to make America moral again. And we do that by just, you know, having general respect for one another. Anyway, I digress, except I think that's really the stage I want to set for the discussion today as well.

[00:02:02] So my guest today, Michael Harrison, he's the founder and president of Talkers Magazine, talkers.com. He's the founder and president, but it's not just Talkers Magazine for radio anymore like it used to be. It's really the Bible of talk radio, but it's also the new talk media because it's everywhere. I mean, it's Facebook, it's Instagram, it's TikTok, it's, I mean, it's everywhere. Conversations are proliferating.

[00:02:32] And it's amazing to me how it seems like we have more ways to talk than we've ever had before. But the sad part is people are talking, discussing, politely disagreeing a whole lot less. That's the concern. Michael Harrison, welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live, sir. Hey, Sam, it's really nice to be with you. Thank you for having me on the show. You're very welcome. I want to take a very controversial issue. I want to brief you on it, but I want to try to take the controversy out of it. How's that?

[00:03:02] Okay, let's see if we can do that. Is that crazy? That's difficult. But I think we can do it. Here's the deal. There's a headline, and I don't know much about this group because it's new. Put 50501 as your word. 50501. It's just a string of numbers. 50501. I think they're calling it 5051.

[00:03:29] They say, quote, build the resistance, quote. It's a new group that's been in existence for like three weeks. I just read about it. I don't know a lot about it yet. But they call it the anti-Trump 5051 movement, which originated online, calls for 50 protests in 50 states on the same day. That's today. That's today.

[00:03:58] The moderators also partnered with a group called the Political Revolution Pack, which has been around since Bernie Sanders didn't get treated right in the 2016 election. They say in a joint press release they're calling for the removal of President Trump. Investigations into administration, they go all through this big list.

[00:04:24] Our goal, they say, is to unite the American people against our, quote, common enemy. That's the Trump administration or anyone involved in dismantling our democracy, whatever that means. And anyone who wishes to divide us on our differences rather than unite us on what makes us American, the joint press release states.

[00:04:48] Now, I don't want to get into the controversy of this except to say I would like to take a step back. Because when does a peaceful assemblage, which is what our First Amendment really says, you have the right to peacefully assemble, turn into a protest, turn into riots? And I remember the big old riots that took place in the summers of past years. I remember the summer love stuff in the 60s. And I look at that and I, you know, hey, I understand showing your displeasure.

[00:05:18] You have the right to do so. But it's how we do it. This is the discussion at hand here. So I've openly called on all these people with this 50-51 movement. The reason I'm hesitating is because 51-50 means you're crazy. Like in communications and the police work and, you know, over the radio or whatever. It's like, hey, 51-50, they're crazy. We got a 51-50 here. This person's just nuts. That's what that's about, huh? Well, this is the opposite, though.

[00:05:47] This is 50-51. Oh, okay. I don't know if that means they're not crazy, but I'm calling on all of them. They're crazy if they think anybody is going to stop to figure that all out. Well, that's another story. Exactly. But I'm just simply saying this. What I think we need to do is step back and try to identify what we can agree on. Now, if we find things we disagree on, can we agree to disagree agreeably? Can we set that aside and see how much common ground we can build?

[00:06:17] And so I've invited all these people on the radio with me to openly discuss that, Michael. So what has happened? Have they accepted your invitation and you're going to have to take out an arena? No, it just happened today. These people are only two weeks old. This group is only like two weeks old. And so I just read the story today, and I'm making this invitation publicly on the radio today. I would love to have arenas and have speakers speak and say, listen, what common ground can we find?

[00:06:44] I mean, we can all say, look, we'd all like to be fed. We'd all like to have a roof over our head. We'd all like to have clothes and fuel so that we're not super cold in the ice storms and super hot in the summer. And I mean, we can start there, can't we? Well, certainly we can. And what aspect of this do you want me to comment on? How you think we best do that? And the reason that I bring you into this discussion is because you have been brilliant in the talk world arena

[00:07:13] to take some of the left talkers, some of the right talkers, some of the people in the middle. And when I've been to your events, everyone's friends, even the people who are completely on different sides of discussions. Everyone sits down at tables. They talk. They shake hands. They give hugs. They say hi. They're old friends. I mean, I think of that and I think you've done something, sir. That's a very interesting insight. We can take your microcosm and broadcast that idea to the nation, sir.

[00:07:41] Well, one of the ways that I have been relatively successful at helping facilitate a community of broadcasters who have different points of view, sort of a community behind the community behind the scenes, is that I focus on the things that people have in common.

[00:08:02] And the thing that these broadcasters that you are so fascinated to, you know, be part of the generally good vibes when they get together, is that they're all in the broadcasting business. They're all in the same industry. They work for basically the same companies and operate under the same industrial paradigm.

[00:08:24] And I think that they're all in the same way. And I think that's a very interesting thing. I think that's a very interesting thing. I think that the people have been doing this in the same way, but I think that's a very interesting thing.

[00:08:54] point over some of these things. It could happen. So I think that you really answered the question is that we should always be peaceful. The right to protest is a deeply American characteristic. I think protesting and dissent are very American. I would never talk my fellow citizens or broadcasters out of encouraging it when it's warranted by their truths, whatever

[00:09:23] their truths happen to be, as long as it's authentic, it's not contrived, and it's not malicious. On the other hand, I think that we all have a responsibility to remain as civil as possible, to keep our society civil, to keep our airwaves civil, and not to do anything that can be a rabble-rousing, harmful type of influence. I think you said it before. I think it's common sense, Sam. I really do.

[00:09:51] There are always people that want to capitalize on strife and disagreement and want to bring things down because either they don't have a life of their own or they're just malicious individuals. I don't know. Or they're crazy, as you pointed out, turning the numbers around. But I think you hit it on the head, and that's all we do. But I find that behind the scenes, broadcasters are cut from the

[00:10:17] same mold. They're entertainers. They're interested in what's going on. They care about the radio industry. They care about all these other industries that have been offshoots of talk radio. We call it talk media. And I think they understand also that if everybody is saying the same thing, well, then it isn't a very effective platform, is it? Amen. We're going to talk more about this because not only have you

[00:10:41] brought people together in kind of a microcosm, it's all about, you know, the talk media, not only were people polite and respectful, even some of the disagreements that people had, most importantly, what I heard people do is listen. You know, they say it's important to first listen to try to understand before trying to be understood. And I really, when I went in that room with all of you, people were listening to one

[00:11:09] another. They really were. Yeah. And, and you were part of the you. I mean, you were not separate from it. And I was delighted to be part of it. You were a very welcome. I know that was your first time at the, at the annual talkers conference. And people enjoyed meeting you and the very refreshing and original approach to broadcasting, the very important, authentic approach to broadcasting that you create

[00:11:34] was very well respected and very appreciated by your colleagues. Now you reached out to many of us and put together a project. And it's based on your music band, Gun Hill Road. It's basically a pop music ensemble. It's attracted hundreds of thousands of worldwide followers and viewers. And I mean,

[00:11:58] they've got a growing repertoire of issue oriented music. And you're part of that band. Tell me about that band because that band does a lot to bring people together to believe it or not. Yeah, we have a knack for attacking issues in a way that every side relates to it. There's a great, a great literary art to the lyrics in our songs. And the music videos are kind of eye popping.

[00:12:25] Dunhill Road has been around as a group since the late sixties. So we're kind of dating ourselves. And way back in the old days, when I was a, an FM album, rock disc jockey in New York, I used to play them a lot and became friends with the guys and they've all kind of stuck together over the decades. And, um, which, by the way, let me interrupt for a second. That is a huge feat

[00:12:50] in and of itself, Michael. I know they do have day jobs because obviously Gun Hill Road is not a household name, but it is an amazingly, um, popular and dynamic, um, band considering the age of the, um, of the players, the sound of the music and the kind of success this band is achieving on the internet. And the thing that really makes it interesting for guys like you and me

[00:13:18] is that most of the attention that the band is getting is not from music radio. It's from talk radio. Talk radio has been playing the heck out of this band. And we have, um, we have a number of albums that go all the way back to the old days, uh, when we sounded like a, you know, a 1971, 72 progressive rock band. Some listeners may remember back when my hair was short, which was a top 40

[00:13:44] single by the group in 1973, very creative band, but I've been a member of the band for the past 10 years and I've applied my insights to talk radio and current issues, um, to the writing. And I do singing as well. And, uh, there are four of us right now, uh, in the band, uh, Steve Goldrich, uh, Paul Reich, Brian Coonan and me, Michael Harrison, my son, Matthew B Harrison is the producer of the videos that are

[00:14:11] very popular on, uh, on YouTube. And, um, we've been making songs about idiocy being dangerous for democracy, artificial intelligence, and what it could possibly mean. We have a song out right now that celebrates talk radio. It's called don't stop talking. It's our current hit. Uh, we have, um, a song out called damn spammers and, uh, you know, and we can all unite against the spammers,

[00:14:40] ladies and gentlemen, actually scammers. I miss, I misspoke. It's, you know, well, the scammers and the spammers, they're one of the same, right? Yeah, exactly. And, um, another of a number of other songs. And so I'm just having a really good time. It's a very creative outlet for me. I'm very proud of it. And we're having, um, we're, we're, we're having the good feeling of

[00:15:05] contributing material to, um, our readers, uh, of talkers and, uh, our, our, our constituents. And the talkers.com is the website, ladies and gentlemen, don't stop talking is the statement. And, uh, that's the name of the song, the video, et cetera. And the reason that that's so important, and that's how I kind of started out this segment is look in a place where we have more ways to talk

[00:15:30] than we've ever had before. People are starting to not listen. Therefore they won't talk to one another. That in my opinion is a greater threat than AI. It's a greater threat than spam or whatever. It's serious. This song is an uplifting and infectiously catchy tune about the vital role of talk radio and the role that plays in supporting American freedom and values, freedom of speech,

[00:15:58] the first amendment, all of the above. Here it is. We'll talk about it in seconds. Go ahead, Liz. All right. We're getting this together here. All right. While Liz works on that, we'll continue talking. It's a great, oh, there we go. All right. Here it is.

[00:16:33] Across America, talk radio and the voices of freedom. Don't stop talking. Don't stop sharing. Don't stop laughing. Don't stop caring. As long as you've got a voice, don't ever stop. Make our freedom shine longer.

[00:16:57] Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. Wow. You got to dig it.

[00:19:53] Michael Harrison and team Gun Hill Road. It's not only a song, but it's a video. We'll get to the video part in a second, but I want to speak to the lyrics for a second. I believe don't stop talking. Don't start. Don't, you know, start laughing. Start sharing. Wrap yourself in your neighbor's love. You know, all these different phrases relate to the genius of America, Michael.

[00:20:15] Oh, I'm very, very proud of that. And I'm very grateful for your kind remarks because I played a major role in the lyrics and I'm surrounded by major, major musicians. These guys are really good. And we had some really talented female singers joining us this time around, giving it a nice, well-rounded pop vibe. A little bit like the old Spanky and our gang and Mamas and the Papas.

[00:20:45] So thank you for the fun. Thank you for playing it. And thank you for the kind of watching. It reminded me of the family days of old TV. Yes. Didn't it, man? It's got that vibe. I don't know. I don't know if we're ever going to go back to those days of what we call family entertainment or, you know, sweet, sweet stories without them being saccharine or fake. But we do live in a very coarse time compared to the times that many of us and many of your listeners grew up in.

[00:21:17] And, you know, I mean, I am a realist and I certainly don't like to varnish or sugarcoat things. But sometimes I think we're a little bit more coarse than we need to be in terms of our pop culture. Amen. And that's why kind of Lucy and the football comes to mind when you hear that song, too. Anyway, it brings back a vibe, but it tells a story like nobody's business. And the lyrics in my mind really kind of sing. And I'll tell you an interesting story.

[00:21:44] When I went to your event, there was a debate between Tom Hartman and who was debating Tom? Mike Gallagher. Oh, yeah. Mike Gallagher. That's right. Okay. So I agree with Mike Gallagher probably, I don't know, 80 percent more so than I do Tom Hartman. But here's the deal. I don't know Mike personally, but I agree with a lot of what he says. I do know Tom Hartman personally. He's a dear friend. He's been on my show. I've been in his studios.

[00:22:13] Okay. Now, it's funny. When I heard the debate, I kind of found myself rooting for Tom, even though I disagree with him. The reason why is the debate was so educational, so uniquely formatted to where it wasn't hostile in any way. It really brought out something that you got to love, which is talk radio and the different views expressed. It was an incredible debate.

[00:22:40] It was the most contentious event at that day's conference. Yes, it was. And it was set up to be that way. It was moderated by Lee Harris. Lee Harris is a legend in New York City where he anchored the mornings for decades at WINS, the big news station. And now he is one of the chief executives at America News Now.

[00:23:03] I may be blanking on the name of the channel, the new cable news channel out of Chicago that tries to be objective. So he handled it very well. But I do think one of the reasons you might have been leaning toward Tom Hartman was because I think most of the audience was cheering Gallagher. And Hartman is such a nice person. And he's such a scholarly man. He's so wealthy.

[00:23:33] He's a great guy. We didn't want to see him getting too beaten up by the crowd. There's no question that most of the news talk hosts in America are conservative. However, not all of them are. And not all of them are even radical or opinionated. Some of them talk about things from the middle and other subjects as well. Look at Joe Rogan to make the point. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:24:01] I don't know that Joe Rogan was a super conservative guy his whole life. I'm not here to attack Joe. I'm just making a point that, hey, he's crossed that and kind of said, can we talk? I mean, it's the old, you know, female daytime TV show. Can we talk? You know, kind of a discussion. Can you stay with me longer, Michael? I can a little bit longer. All right. We'll keep you a little bit longer. We'll let you go at like 45 or whatever, if that's okay. Okay. All right. Hang tight, ladies and gentlemen. We've got a whole lot more to talk about. I want to talk about the video side of this thing.

[00:24:30] I want to talk about some other takeaways that I've had from some of these experiences and some of the hopes for the future of this great country we all live in. There's nothing like it, ladies and gentlemen. Can we agree on that? Hang tight. Michael Harrison, talkers.com in seconds on your radio. Pursuing liberty. Using the Constitution as our guide. You're listening to Liberty News Radio.

[00:25:00] News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Rich Tomason. Taking a cue from her boss. That would be President Trump. Newly confirmed Attorney General Pam Bondi has hit the ground running, coordinating with Homeland Security to crush drug cartels. Bondi is also cutting Sanctuary City money and is investigating Trump targeting lawfare. Prayer on the breakfast this morning for President Trump. The president spoke at two prayer breakfast events,

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[00:30:13] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. It's called News Nation, ladies and gentlemen. One of America's fastest growing networks. Why am I bringing that up? Because Lee Harris joined them. They're doing a great job. A lot of people are trying to say, hey, let's go back a little bit to the center.

[00:30:39] Even if you have extreme whatever views, you can take a step back. And it's, my mom used to say, Sam, it's not what you're saying. It's how you're saying it. I used to say, okay, mom, whatever. Now, I get her point, though, right? Content communication would be, say what you mean, mean what you say. But then they'd say, hold your tongue. How do you make sure that what you say makes sense in an appropriate way, even if you disagree? How do you deliver it without insulting somebody?

[00:31:09] We've got to practice that as Americans, ladies and gentlemen. Talk radio in many ways, hopefully taking the lead to accomplish that. Michael Harrison, my guest, founder, president of talkers.com. It's really the new media taking center stage, that's for sure, blended with talk radio. But this music video, Don't Stop Talking, in my opinion, is uplifting. It's infectious. It's a catchy tune. The lyrics are incredible. And by the way, I hope you guys go back and listen to the lyrics.

[00:31:37] Because in my opinion, those lyrics really define how America can come out of this divide, hostile, in my opinion, backwards narrative. It's uneducated to behave like that. We can be kinder. We can be more patient. We can be more forgiving. We can be more benefit of the doubt. You know, give somebody a little bit of grace. Right? Anyway, I digress. Except for the lyrics are incredible.

[00:32:04] And you've got to pay attention to them and think about what would the world be like, Michael, if everybody applied those lyrics in the whole world? What would happen? Well, it would certainly be a more pleasant place. It may not be as entertaining. People would be laughing, though. You might have entertainment on different topics, though. It might not all be political. It might be, hey, we're going to talk about recipes. And we're going to talk about family history. And we're going to talk about different cultures. And we're going to – it's endless, right?

[00:32:31] Yeah, no, I completely agree with you. And, you know, it certainly is a good compass direction. It's a good ideal that we should always aim that way. But, you know, Sam, we human beings are a very complicated species. On one level, we're capable of the highest concepts. We're like caught between the brutes and the creatures of the muck and the angels of heaven. We're somewhere in the middle of a journey.

[00:33:00] And I think that we should always strive toward the highest goals and these ideals. Even the United States, it says in order to form a more perfect union. It doesn't say that we are a perfect union. It says in order to form one, that it's a north star. It's a direction that we head in. It's our intention. And we should always have that intention to answer to our better angels, to our higher spirits.

[00:33:27] Because that's where we could be down the road. Our grandchildren, our great-grandchildren. That could be our legacy. Or we could take the wrong turn and annihilate ourselves. So that's where the true drama is. And that's where the challenge lies. A more, a more, a more perfect union. Like a little kid saying, I love you more. A more, a more, a more. That's what we should be striving for in this country as we go forward.

[00:33:54] In a lot of ways, we've made some tremendous strides that are really incredible to see as well. Now, tell me about the video side of this thing. Because that's kind of a new foray for you guys, right? Well, you have to know video to know audio nowadays. Without trying to show up the really great video and film artists in Hollywood. I use that as a basic term. We're in the age of grassroots video.

[00:34:22] And people with YouTube channels. And just about every talk show out there on radio has some type of video component. So we see these videos as a very important part of getting the music and the message across. And the music and the message is the most important part. But the video has certainly been helpful in getting attention. And in this particular video, I'd say one of the highlights, and your listeners will certainly enjoy this, is they get to see you in it. You're one of the people in the video. That's right.

[00:34:52] Yeah. We have almost a lot. Yeah, because you reached out to everybody. You didn't just say, I'm going to pick my favorites. You didn't say, I'm going to pick the liberals. I'm going to pick the this. You reached out to everybody and said, hey, who wants to contribute to this thing, right? Oh, yes. Yes. This thing has people from all over the spectrum of talk opinion. And, I mean, Howard Stern is there. We have African-Americans. We have women. We have men. We have liberals. We have conservatives.

[00:35:20] And we have sports talkers, which is a very, very important venue of American discourse, the sports world. And it gets pretty coarse as well. These sports talk guys, they don't take prisoners. So that's a rough arena. They actually, I don't know if they like each other. We were talking before about this. I think a lot of it's dialogue for entertainment. And believe it or not, they'll be doing that.

[00:35:49] And then they'll be at the bar together, too. That's possibly as well, of course. And I hope that that's the case. But I think that listening to the song and watching this rapid fire, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, pictures of talk show hosts from all around the country, some very famous, some less known, creates a very stunning impact.

[00:36:13] And that's why, you know, I don't want to do shameless promotion, but I really encourage your listeners to check out the video. And they can do that by going to talkers.com. And there's a banner ad for Don't Stop Talking right at the top of the homepage. Or they could go to talkradioforever.com and plug right into it. And I certainly hope that they do because. And four spelled out, F-O-R, forever? Yeah, forever.

[00:36:41] Yeah, no four, no number. It's the word forever. Got it. Talkradioforever.com, ladies and gentlemen. Anyway, I'm not into selfless, shameless promotion either, and I'm in the video. But the reason that I'm bringing it up is because I just read this story the first hour, prepping for the show. I read this article, and it went into all this kind of stuff. And, you know, our goal is to unite the people against our common enemy, Donald Trump. Well, hey, man, 51-plus percent of the country elected him, right? So I don't know that it's a common enemy. That's a wow.

[00:37:11] And so I step back and go, wait a minute. I've got Michael on this next hour talking about the 100% opposite of this. How – I don't believe in coincidences, Michael. Well, I don't believe in coincidences either, but that's a whole other cosmic aspect of things. I do think that it's dangerous to tell people that the government or that the president is the enemy. Enemy is a strong word.

[00:37:40] But I also wasn't very happy when Donald Trump was calling the media the enemy of the people either. Well, I agree. The problem is – and I know that you're a very even-handed player, so I feel comfortable saying this to you. And I suspect your audience is even-handed because talk show hosts tracked the audiences that they deserve. And you obviously have an intelligent, even-handed audience. They have their opinions, but they're fair.

[00:38:05] I think that both sides, the left and the right, have been behaving very badly when it comes to accusing the other side of being demonic, of being enemies, of being really heinous. I don't think that's necessary.

[00:38:22] And one of the reasons I'm able to appear neutral, even though I always state my opinion – I have opinions, but I appear neutral – is compared to the rhetoric out there, I just don't believe that everybody is as horrible as everybody who disagrees with them says they are. I just don't think it's that bad. I think that we have to be vigilant. I think that discourse is important, as you point out. And I think that protest is a part of our way.

[00:38:51] But when you protest, you must behave in a way that respects other people and respects the civility and the peace that we need to have to have an effective nation and community. You got that right. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a great video.

[00:39:08] Michael Harrison doing a great job over at Talkers, bringing people together in a room on one hand of thought leaders, of professionals, of consummate lifelong broadcasters and all this kind of stuff from the lowly to the greatest among them.

[00:39:25] And then doing so via this catchy tune and this video on a worldwide scale now because of the new media, because of the internet, because of – anybody in the world can see this parade of people saying, hey, we can disagree, but we can join together in this video and do so agreeably. Final thought on that, Michael, then we'll let you fly. Well, I'm very, very grateful again for you pointing that out. I think that we're in a very new media age.

[00:39:53] There is no more mass media. When I hear terms like the legacy media and the mass media, I roll my eyes. The media of the NBC, ABC, CBS, New York Times, Hollywood, and going to the movies and all that stuff is long ago and far away. It's in a faraway land known as the 20th century. We live in a society where people live in their bubbles and their cultural bubbles. Most people could not tell you who won the Oscar.

[00:40:21] Most people cannot tell you who won the Grammy. Most people cannot tell you what the number one bestseller in the country is. We do not have a common culture. I think the only vestige of a common culture left via the media in America is the Super Bowl. And I think that that's a very troubling situation. We need to have more common ground. You pointed that out, and I agree wholeheartedly. And peace after the game we're calling for. Michael Harrison, thank you, my friend. We'll have you back. Thank you, Sam.

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[00:43:05] I've been talking two hours about civility primarily, about solutions, about coming together, about forgiveness, about respect, about appreciation, about, man, we can build on what we have in common. And believe it or not, people have way more things in common than they don't have in common. I get that we're a multicultural society. I get that we're a multicultural society. I get that we have really strongly held opinions. I understand all that. And I agree with that. And by the way, I mean, I've got, I don't know, maybe I'm a little too timid. I've got a few strong opinions of my own, if you know what I'm saying.

[00:43:35] But see, we can be agreeable. We can, okay. Anyway, there's an article relating to this that I found so fascinating. Here's the headline. A second Trump presidency brought to you by YouTubers, podcasters, including, and then they say Joe Rogan and they named some other people. And they say this.

[00:43:56] As Donald Trump was sworn in as the 47th U.S. president, he was surrounded by his family, donors, and wealthy tech executives. But just sitting a few feet away was a, quote, political newcomer who's been credited with encouraging lots of votes. His name is Joe Rogan.

[00:44:17] The fact that Rogan, the host of, you could debate, but close to, if not the world's popular podcast, looked on. Listen, as Republican luminaries like Ron DeSantis and others were confined to the overflow Joe sat front and center. Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it?

[00:44:42] Now listen, over the past couple of years, a set of very now influential podcasters cemented themselves as they knew or the new mainstream in news. They used source of information for millions of, and they say young men, but I would say young women too, right?

[00:45:09] And they used their perch to promote Trump. Now that's interesting, right? But in an effort to understand the media via the, quote, new generation, Bloomberg watched this thing over and over. They watched videos from nine different prominent YouTubers. And that's why they're saying, hey, YouTube took this thing over.

[00:45:39] I don't believe it was really YouTube. I think Rumble had a lot more to do with it than they're giving credit. I think X had a lot more to do with it than they're giving credit. I think that Truth Social had a whole lot more to do with it than they're giving credit. But nevertheless, they talk about YouTube specifically.

[00:45:55] And they say this, listen, Bloomberg reporters reviewed nearly 1,300 hours of footage from their channels, mapped out the podcasters, guest networks, et cetera,

[00:46:12] and then quantified the frequency of, quote, key political messages that they distributed to tens of millions of subscribers each day. See, that is something, people. Reporter reviewing 13,000 hours. What do they?

[00:46:36] They say this, to hear these conservatives tell it, America is in a desperate place. Yeah, migrants streaming across the border, inflation, we can keep going, right? The millions of third world wars, you know, this kind of stuff. Gender politics has gotten way out of hand. While schools of, you know, medical professionals literally duped the public.

[00:47:04] And they go on and on with this description of what these people, you know, were saying. Establishment, duped, public, same-sex attraction. Now that Trump's back in power, these podcasters, broadcasters, are supporting his efforts, turning grievances into policies. They say, believe it or not, in the months up to the election,

[00:47:35] hosts had more politicians and pundits on their shows and discussed the issues much more frequently. Now that to me is a response to, and this is kind of the sad part, that's in response to this idea that, hey, elections need to start when the other election ended. Right? It used to not be that way. It used to be, hey, when the election was over, everybody would take a rest,

[00:48:04] but now the election starts the second the other one ends. In other words, Donald Trump got elected on November the 5th. They're already working on the next election. See? And elections are 24-7, year-round activities now. I mean, you got the Super Bowl and they only have a football season, but see, they got elections 24-7 year-round. Why don't we create election season again and step back a little bit and say, hold on, I don't need to know what my politician thinks. I'm not going to even vote for that guy for two more years.

[00:48:33] I get it if you want to start three, four, whatever months, five months in advance. But it's become exhausting. I'm exhausted. Right? Anyway, they said the broadcaster's videos that reached over 1 million views on YouTube during the time that Bloomberg reviewed this, more than a third of the videos mentioned elections and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Right? I find that interesting, too.

[00:49:02] I find that really an interesting, I don't know what you want to call it, side note, maybe, on this topic? Because it's just interesting how much of it was political. Well, a buddy of mine, Lance Migliaccio, is saying, hey, you know what? This political stuff is for the birds. It's just everybody wants to argue. No one wants to fund or promote or do this or that. I agree with him. He's right. So he's like, hey, let's talk about a bunch of other topics.

[00:49:33] Right? Let's talk about other things. And I think he's on to something with that. Anyway, I digress. But the reason that I bring this up is because it's talking about nine popular YouTubers. Of the big ones, over a million views, more than a third of it were hosts calling on listeners to vote, and then they promoted specific candidates for the most part as well.

[00:50:03] Now, 37% of highly viewed videos mention voting or elections. That's a huge number. Hosts and guests frequently discussed voting in election over the past two years. Anyway, as the election got closer, they talked about it more and more and more. It was a ramp up, if you will. Now, this is Bloomberg, and so they're not going to write a very favorable article to Trump or to the conservatives that backed Trump.

[00:50:33] But I would like to come back and say, hey, Joe Rogan tried to interview Kamala Harris and tried to interview Donald Trump. Trump went for it. Harris rejected it. Well, I think that we all ought to start talking more and interviewing people from different viewpoints, different sides of the discussion. Don't think of them as the enemy. Don't think of them as would like to sit down and get to know each other on a personal level. I tried to do that to my buddy over Tim at Rolling Stone. He refused. I tried to take him out to lunch. Rolling Stone doesn't like me very much.

[00:51:03] But I tried to sit down and actually try to humanize our discussion in a way that would be like, hey, me and Tim can completely disagree. Me and Rolling Stone can completely disagree. But, you know what, we can walk away and go, you know what, I have respect for you and your thoughts. You have every right to them, and I support them. Right? We got to get to that, in my opinion. We really need to get to that.

[00:51:23] Anyway, I digress except to say that I think we need to invite people and discuss and learn and respect, try to understand before being understood. And I think we need more of that. And so I'm spending two hours literally today saying let's back away from hardcore protests that could border on riots. Let's back away from hardcore criticisms of one another.

[00:51:47] Let's deliver in a more gentle, kind, friendly, humble way, building on our differences, saying I get that we're different, but I also get that we have way more in common. Anyway, this YouTube discussion, this second Trump presidency brought to you by YouTubers is kind of an interesting twist on this whole deal, isn't it? They say how nine YouTubers helped Trump win a second term. I think that you could say that a lot of people helped Trump win a second term.

[00:52:17] You know, I was for Trump more than Harris. I have every right to do that. Right? But I bring this up because there's so much to this civility idea and movement. There's so much to building on what we can agree on. Even back in the day when I went to Washington for the Republican convention, I think it was, and they had these women out there and they had these, I think they're called pink vagina hat. Pink vagina hats. I don't mean to get graphic on the radio. I'm just saying that's what they were called.

[00:52:45] And I tried to talk to a couple of those women to see if they would come on the radio with me and discuss. And I wasn't going to bring them on and beat them up and tell them how wrong they are and tell them they're baby killers or anything. I was just going to bring them on and learn. How did you guys start your organization? Why did you start it? What are your goals? What do you want to accomplish? How can people help accomplish that, you know, in a meaningful way? You know, I was going to ask open, fair, and this is what Michael Harrison brought up earlier. You know what?

[00:53:13] We might have our opinions, but we're fair. And that's what I'm really hoping everyone can come back and do. Have their own opinions. That's great. Convince a man against his will. You know, you've not convinced him still, right? We get that. You can have your own opinions, but can we be fair? Those people have an agenda. So much so that they created these hats to demonstrate solidarity with their agenda. They further went to Washington, D.C., and they had their own protest.

[00:53:43] They had their own focus. They had their own. I don't even know to this day, to be honest with you, what they're about. I mean, I know in general it's probably women's rights. I get that. But what specifically do they want to accomplish? Because now I've kind of seen that they've, for the most part, vanished at least. I haven't heard much about the pink hats lately. But again, they might have had some things that we could agree on. They might have had some. Why don't we listen? Talk radio needs listeners.

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