Radio Show Hour 2 – 01/17/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow American, Sam Bushman, live on your radio. Hard-hitting news the network's refused to use. Continues this freedom-loving, fantastic, faith-filled. We're taking America back one heart, one mind, one issue at a time. Friday, this is the broadcast for January the 17th in the year of our Lord, 2025.

[00:00:42] 25, hour two of two. Last hour, if you didn't get to hear it, man, you got to go download it as soon as the show is up. Live from prison, we had our guest on, Tina Peters, political prisoner, former Colorado elections clerk and more. The truth matters, ladies and gentlemen. We pray for pardons for Tina Peters, Steve Stockman, Stuart Rhodes and many others. Ken Cromar, all kinds of people. Let's abolish the IRS.

[00:01:08] Let's come out of the gate on January 20th, rocking and rolling. I wish it was true, but I pray, pray, pray it's true, but I have my doubts. Anyway, Mark C. Pacheco, dear friend of Tina's, helping from the outside, was our guest last hour as well, along with Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com. Tina's gone from gold star mother to political prisoner, ladies and gentlemen. You got to stand with Tina Peters. She's an elected official.

[00:01:36] She was a whistleblower, doing a tremendous job. TinaPeters.us. Donate and support her in any way possible. She needs your support. And as Dr. Scott Bradley wisely said last hour, we have got to make sure Trump knows and that the profile of Tina Peters increases to the point of you just simply cannot ignore. All right, without further ado, Dr. Bradley with me this hour as well. Welcome back, sir.

[00:02:01] We openly call for a humble, security-minded Trump inauguration. Doesn't look like we're going to get it, but that's what we're calling for because we want everyone to be safe. Meanwhile, last night you had your weekly Q&As on the Constitution, your webinar, Thursdays, 7 p.m. Mountain Time with Dr. Scott Bradley. If you want to sign up for that and get your email invite, go to freedomsrisingsun.com, sign up, and you can be part of the incredible webinars.

[00:02:30] What was going on last night, Dr. Bradley? We had a free-for-all. I'm not surprised. No, I mean, it wasn't like there was a riot or anything like that. But I got to tell you, there's a lot of stir right now, and there's a lot of people that have grave concerns about so many broad-spectrum kind of issues that are going on. With reason, by the way, right? Good reason.

[00:02:58] I know there's a lot of people that are kind of feeling the stress of so much stuff. I mean, and then there's others that are, I don't know if they're smoking or injecting hopium, but they say that with Trump in there, this is, you know, they can go back to sleep and the world's going to be fine. Kumbaya, you know, happy days are here again, all that kind of stuff. I don't believe that that is the condition that we'll end up seeing going forward.

[00:03:27] You know, there's just think for a moment. Most people that think of MAGA, make America great again, they think of that as kind of an inwardly focused bringing America that we knew when we were kids back in the 50s. Maybe you weren't then, but at any rate, you know, this was a place you could go out and play baseball in your neighborhood or whatever, you know. Yeah, peace, apple pie, and baseball. Come on.

[00:03:56] Yeah, and father knows best, and, you know, mom and apple pie, all that kind of stuff, okay. But, you know, I just am shocked at how far we have fallen in this nation, and it isn't happy days are here again. And, okay, so I was talking about MAGA, how that inward look for the nation. And we're going back to looking at ourselves.

[00:04:23] And I'm a little concerned with some of the things that Trump is doing that has an outward appearance. We're going to go for a grander empire in America. It's more of an empire building kind of a, shall we say. Expansionist. Yes, but it's international in school. Globalism under the guise of nationalism kind of an idea, right?

[00:04:46] Well, that's what's really, I mean, I don't know if people have overtly, consciously come to that understanding at this point. But some of the things in recent months, or recent weeks, I guess I should even say, that are being offered by Donald Trump himself. It looks like he's kind of verging on the globalist empire building kind of thing, you know. I mean, and you say, holy cow.

[00:05:14] No, no, I didn't vote for that MAGA is what a lot of people are, I think, in their hearts are starting to say. They were hoping for this, you know, glow of liberty to settle upon the land instead of an imperialistic kind of approach to things. And I'm really concerned about how some of these things are going to play out.

[00:05:37] And I don't know if the uneasiness that some people are feeling can be absolutely attributed to what I just spoke about. But there's a lot of people that are astir. I mean, you know, we've got, I mean, Trump, excuse me, Biden's farewell address. I don't know if you got that was one thing that came up. Well, we got that. We'll get to that in just a second because it's a doozy, to say the least. It is. And I wished I had an hour and a half to speak about it because it was 12 and a half minutes long. And what a deflection.

[00:06:07] Wait a minute. It's 12 and a half minutes long and you want an hour and a half to speak about a 12-minute talk? Yeah, because it was absolutely fabricated, how shall we say, disingenuous stuff. We got the Hamas-Israel ceasefire. We got the election. Yeah, you're right about that. Let's get into that in a minute. But first, it just got announced at the top of the hour. However, Supreme Court rules in favor of federal ban on TikTok. They say Sunday they're going to shut it down.

[00:06:36] Now, Donald's thinking about an executive order to stop it. But my problem is several-fold. A lot of people would say, well, he doesn't have the right to do an executive order to stop it. Others would say he's the president and he can do what he wants. Others would say, like me, hey, I don't think the legislative body can create a law that bans TikTok in the first place. All I can tell you is this is very, very strange territory we're in when it comes to the TikTok discussion. At first, you attack the Chinese and you say, well, I wasn't Chinese, right?

[00:07:05] And then pretty soon, it's like, hey, they attack Sam Bushman and I go to jail after Tina Peters. They're like, I'm not Sam Bushman or Tina Peters. Pretty soon, there's nobody left for you people. I mean, isn't that really kind of what this smacks of, doctor? Well, you know, I have – and if the ruling was just made, obviously I have not read the ruling. But my kind of – on a broad brush kind of thing, the whole TikTok thing that came out of the Congress –

[00:07:31] and I'm guessing that the Supreme Court ruled that it was passed legislatively and therefore has the law, but the Congress overstepped their constitutional authority to do anything that they did, okay? In other words, they don't have authority to make that kind of a law is the point. That's right. The Congress made an unconstitutional law. They stepped in stuff they should have never stepped in. And the Supreme Court is probably using that messy step to take their next step.

[00:08:00] So it seems to be a domino or a kind of a step-by-step process into falsehood. And it's like Judge Roberts with the Obamacare thing. When the Obamacare thing got passed, it was totally unconstitutional. But when it got to the Supreme Court, Judge Roberts wrote an opinion that says, well, the power to tax is part of our constitutional authority with the Congress, and so therefore this is a tax.

[00:08:30] The law specifically says it's not a tax, but they take these little hold-your-mouth-just-the-right-way kind of things to justify things. And I think, again, having not read the Supreme Court ruling, my guess is that they probably justified it in saying Congress made the law, we're going to uphold the law. And I think it's an error because we're treading on thin ice.

[00:08:57] If you don't like what something is, let's just make a law that, you know, the Constitution doesn't say you can even walk in that territory, but we'll make a law and suddenly it's okay to do that. You know, just because it's legal does not make it moral or correct. Well, and that's the problem that we face all across the board. And so, you know, I don't know if Trump will save TikTok with an executive order or not. I don't think it's right to shut TikTok. Well, it depends on what you mean by how. He just writes it out and they do it.

[00:09:27] No, that's the problem, Sam. I mean, we have a rule of law. The Constitution is the sound foundation. And if we start, I mean, if you say, well, yeah, the Constitution is a good thing. I'm not defending writing an executive order. I don't think he has any authority to write executive orders at all. No, I agree with you. I hear what you're saying, but people need to stop and think, what the heck? Well, because here's the other question. Does it get shut down on Sunday and then after he's president, he creates the executive order and it's brought back on Monday?

[00:09:56] Or does he write a pre-executive order and it's kind of pre-approved a few hours early? I mean, you've got questions there, too, all up and down the line. I mean, this is just insane. Everything they do is uncharted territory now, intentionally so, to subvert the system, sir. Well, and it goes back. The first time I wrote, I ran for the United States Senate. And that's a long story. I don't need to explain the whole thing.

[00:10:20] But the fact of the matter is I had a – what began as an intelligent conversation with an individual at an event. And he wanted to see my platform. And I gave him a copy of the Constitution. I said, this is the platform. And every one of us swears an oath to do that thing. And he said, oh, I love the Constitution. Go ahead, sir. He says, I love the Constitution. Oh, it's so wonderful and everything. He goes, well, then you'll love my aspect of it. This was back when the Iraq-Afghanistan war was going on.

[00:10:50] Go ahead and skip the break. And so, anyway, I said, well, then you'll be happy that I really believe that we've got to stop our military adventures. Oh, you can't do that. He says, those wars have to happen. He says, they're just – well, that's the thing. I says, well, just a minute. The Constitution, Article 168, Clause 11, specifies that Congress declares that. But what you're saying is the president could do it. Oh, wait, the president had to. Congress wasn't going to do it. No, he doesn't have authority.

[00:11:19] He had to be thrown in prison as a work criminal if he does against Congress. And so, anyway, we had this discussion. And I said, sir, you need to understand that because you think it's a good idea, and I think something else is a good idea, that maybe whether it's medical care for everybody or redistribution of wealth to the cities, whatever, pick a subject. If it's outside the bounds of the Constitution, who's to say my idea or your idea takes precedent

[00:11:47] and who's to say some other ideas can't be incorporated? Oh, he could not see it. But, people, we need to understand that when you make exceptions, regardless of how – oh, how wonderful it sounds it might be, and we could read you some stuff out of George Washington's farewell address if you wanted, how he says that sometimes it may sound like a good idea, but it's the way we destroy our nation. But that's what's happening right now with TikTok and countless other subjects.

[00:12:15] And so, people, I think, have a kind of an innate sense of, oh, trepidation. I don't know what it is. But, honestly, that's kind of what happened with the webinar last night. I kind of felt like – years ago, you remember when I was doing a radio program on your network, and I did interviews, long-form interviews.

[00:12:40] And I was doing an interview when Obamacare had just been passed, and I got a – it's a long story for this, too, but I got Jane Orient on as an interviewee. Yeah, Dr. Jane Orient from California, great lady. She is a firecracker, man, I'm here to tell you. A physician that really knows her stuff. Well, anyway, when I got her on the air, I felt like I lost control of the interview.

[00:13:10] I mean, she just took the reins, and she was going to ride that horse to the end of the row. So – and, honestly, she had so much to say, and I was happy to let her say it. But the fact of the matter is that's kind of what happened – not exactly, but kind of what happened with the webinar last night is people came out of the woodwork that, you know, usually it's a little bit of a steady pace and stuff and everything. Suddenly, I was getting questions that were like epistles, you know,

[00:13:37] about how complex some of the issues were, and people have this kind of an undertow of uneasiness, I guess. Yeah, that's right, and for good reason. And I will say this, you know, it is uncharted territory. They're doing that on purpose. They're trying to basically find ways around everything. They're trying to – but really, you know, and they say it's complicated, and I don't disagree that understanding the ins and outs can be complex. However, I want to make this very simple.

[00:14:07] We are God Almighty and repent, and we're a humble, intreatable people to God's law. In other words, first law of heaven is obedience. Okay, the first principle is faith. If we have faith unto obedience, then we do have reason for true hope. Not hopium, but true hope. You don't run it through that directive first. You can say MAGA all day long, you're going to make America great again, but you're smoking hopium because you don't have fundamental principles in place

[00:14:37] for a likely outcome of success. You've got to – you know what? We're just going to shoot first and ask questions later. You know, we're going to – what do they say? It's normally ready, aim, fire. You know, it's fire, ready, aim. You can have an idea that way, and it goes south literally every time. So I submit to you that Trump is promoting globalism under the name of nationalism, under the title of nationalism. And we better be very careful, and we better watch out for it. Now, I don't know.

[00:15:06] Is Trump going to do an executive order? I agree that he can't, but he just might do it. To me, that would add insult to injury. Now, both are wrong, but what do you do in this situation, doctor? Well, I'll dovetail with the last few sentences you said there. You know, you talk about turning to Almighty God. I absolutely endorse and uphold and seek that. But I'm going to be a little more specific even. I mean, we just don't say pray for mom, apple pie, and everything like that.

[00:15:36] I absolutely – and the founding fathers agreed with me in this. They felt the hand of God, the power of his influence, as they wrote the Constitution. I really am absolutely convinced that that document is the will of God for the cause of liberty in this land and for all people, literally. But the fact of the matter is that we say, oh, we're going to support God. Well, okay, I'm going to go back and read, you know, Genesis 1, whatever.

[00:16:04] I think we need to understand, from my perspective and from more than 50 years of in-depth immersion in this thing, that I support the United States Constitution as a godly document. It's the best document that's probably ever been brought forth on earth for the cause of liberty, the great agency of mankind, for us to choose our path and to live in peace and freedom.

[00:16:31] And that includes worshiping God and taking care of our fellow man and living in our families with prosperity and peace, all of that stuff that is embodied in this document of liberty. And if we lose that, which we're well along the path of doing, I think we have abandoned a gift that God gave our nation nearly 250 years ago, and we've squandered it. And so, yes, I say, pray to God. Follow his plan.

[00:16:57] His plan includes this magnificent cause of liberty because he wants his children to be free to choose and to follow him and to worship him and to take care of all of their family needs and their fellow man and everything else. It's a pretty all-encompassing document. And I think if people... And religious liberty is the mother of all liberties. We need to remember that. And then we also need to remember the founding fathers pointed to this God-directed freedom movement that they spoke of.

[00:17:25] And they attributed, hey, they would not be successful without God and without obedience to his commandments. And I mean, they clearly taught the point, the link that you're making, and the rise of liberty and the rise of that nation directly related to the religious viewpoints and increase in religion amongst the people. It was a religious revival tied to this too. People need to understand all those things. I agree. And so this is... And I really don't believe, you know,

[00:17:54] people talk about coming to a circumstance where, you know, God can reign among us or rule among us and so on. I believe that his rule we based upon his love of our liberty. And we will give loyalty to him in large part because we love him not only for all he did in the atonement, but because he allows us to be free. I mean, all of these things, I think, we can't enter a period of time where God is king,

[00:18:24] if you will, Lord of lords and king of kings, spoken of in the scriptures, unless and until we as a people come to understand that the theft of socialism is a violation of everybody's liberty, for example. I mean, that's just one of hundreds, you know. If we can't come to understand that living as a moral and a righteous people is really, truly being free. I mean, I just... We've talked before about how important morality is

[00:18:54] and that can't be overplayed. And by the way, that's very much going in this debate about who's going to be our secretary of defense. There was a... Tim Kaine, I think, was the senator that was grilling Pete Hespeth about this, about his fidelity to his wife. And his... I mean, and again, he resonates with a lot of things. How can we trust you if your wife can't? You know, I mean,

[00:19:23] these things are really key points that are being made right now. And how could we trust Bill Clinton if his wife can't, you know? These things, they say, oh, well, that has nothing to do with governance. Yeah, it has a lot to do with it. I mean, your oath of office is sacred. And if your oath of the fidelity is not sacred, can we trust you to fulfill your oath of office? All of these things are in a mix right now.

[00:19:53] And I think there's some very good questions being asked by both sides of the aisle. You got that right. Now, you spoke of Joe Biden's 12-and-a-half-minute farewell speech to the nation. And most of it was propaganda, for sure. There's actually something I found in it that I agree with and like and want to warn about, too. We'll get to that in a minute. But, Dr. Bradley, why don't you start there, though? I mean, he covered a ton of subjects,

[00:20:21] propaganda was, for the most part, the order of the day. Very interesting stammerings from Joe. Well, absolutely. He did a pretty good job. Pretty good. Not really good, but pretty good job of reading his teleprompter. He got to do his hand gestures. I mean, I'm sure they kind of rehearsed this thing to the nth degree, and it was just really overly orchestrated.

[00:20:48] But most of the stuff that he took credit for could be easily discounted. But one thing I'll just mention, and I've held this concern personally, but as I've thought about it, and certainly he didn't temper it to me, and I was already along another path. But one thing he talked about was how bazillionaires were taking over the nation, were going to be oligarchs, and they were going to rule and reign

[00:21:15] from their positions of power economically. And I said, oh, I've thought about that too, but here's the thing. George Washington was probably, in his, I mean, absolutely in his day, he was the richest American. And he probably, in terms of purchasing power, everything else like that that's equated over the years, he probably is to this day the richest American that served as president.

[00:21:43] But he was ruling based upon principles. And the principles are what's important. It's not what your bank account looks like. And so while I've said, oh man, if we get all these bazillionaires to run the country, that's a bad thing. But if the bazillionaires are operating within the correct principles, it doesn't matter if they've got a big bank account. And he was saying, it was kind of a Marxist philosophy that he was promoting. You know, the boys,

[00:22:13] wah, we've got to, you know, seize the power back from them. Let's go with the proletariat. Blah, blah, blah. He didn't use those terms. But that's, it is Marxist in its origins. And he was railing against prosperity is what he was. And so, so over the time that I've thought about these bazillionaires that are being called to office, and certainly many of them are many, many multiple millionaires or big, you know, celebrities or something. That's not the problem.

[00:22:43] The problem is whether or not they follow the principles. And that's what I'm going to be watching is are the principles followed not by the bank account as he would have us rail against those that are more prosperous than we. Let's follow the principles. And that was one of the things that really stuck out to me is how he was fragmenting the nation based upon prosperity and wealth. And it should be, I mean, there was another division factor that he was trying to do

[00:23:12] as a proletariat versus the bourgeois. And that's not the way to do it. Let's go back to the baseline. It will be okay. Biden did warn about this. He warned about and he calls it enormous concentration of wealth and power and a, quote, oligarchy of the, quote, ultra wealthy. He says it was emerging in America sounding the alarm about, quote, unchecked power as he, you know, gave a farewell speech to the nation. Now, I agree that we don't

[00:23:42] want to divide on wealth. We don't want to look down on people that are poor. We don't want to look up with hatred and anger and whatever against the rich. And we don't want to divide on classes. I agree 100%. However, and this is kind of an interesting question, at what point when we put people in power that are either one, government, two, famous and rich, and that's all you put in government. At some point, have you created

[00:24:12] a problem? I don't want to divide over the classes, but I do kind of want to focus on this a little bit. When we come back, there's another quote Biden made that's very interesting. Let's break this down. I agree that we need to focus on the principles, but I don't see some of these rich and famous people having any more principles than the other guys. They just have their own framework of reference that they like to promote. Neither of them seem to be following the supreme law of the land and God's laws in my humble opinion. Hang tight, Dr. Bradley with me.

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[00:30:13] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. So myself and Dr. Scott Bradley talking about Donald Trump, talking about Joe Biden's address before he ends. Why does that relate to Donald Trump? Donald Trump's about to push an executive order to overturn the TikTok ban. I don't even know

[00:30:42] how to deal with that. Both sides are wrong. They shouldn't be able to shut down TikTok in the first place. Second issue is this executive order deal. But Eisenhower coined a phrase and Biden just, quote, retooled that phrase is the point. Ike warned of a, quote, military industrial complex. I still warn of that, by the way. But Biden retooled it now and sees a, quote, tech industrial complex.

[00:31:12] John Johnson over there at newser.com with the piece. But Biden warned of an enormous concentration of wealth and everything else. And to some degree, when you put big wealth and big tech together and then you only put people in your administration that are either super uber wealthy, super uber, you know, popular from a popularity contest point of view, famous people, generally in government, everybody that Donald Trump's got in his administration, and I can't really think of many exceptions, is an attorney,

[00:31:40] is super uber wealthy, is, and at some point are we just basically creating a wealthy ruling class? I mean, I don't want to have class warfare, but at some point there's a question about that. And when you merge that with tech now, hey, does Elon Musk have more power than many others because of his wealth and because of his, quote, tech, I don't know what you want to call it, assets? You know, you've got to kind of wonder some of this and say, I mean, is Joe Biden partially right on this, you think, doctor?

[00:32:10] No. And I'll say, who was more super uber wealthy and popular than George Washington in his day? So it can be done, but the principles have to be at the basis of it. And we take that with our oath of office to limit our actions to the scope and bounds of the United States Constitution. And so I, you know, I hear what he's saying. I have more concern about the tech side and honestly,

[00:32:40] they were the guys that were censoring us. They were the ones that were shadow banning us. They were the ones that were taking us off the air. And some of the people, Zuckerberg is nowadays saying, oh, we're going to be all MAGA now, buddy. Yeah, we're not going to do that now. But the fact of the matter is Mark Magaberg. The fact of the matter is that we are on a cusp right now of technology

[00:33:10] becoming kind of center stage. I mean, you look at what AI's doing. I mean, you could be made to sound like you said almost anything, Sam. I mean, people really believe how they're creating that. I've even cloned my own voice and tested it and it's scary to say the least. But here's the difference in my mind and why I'm a little bit, I'm not on Joe Biden's side, but I do think there's something to what he has to say. Let me explain what I mean. If we had the checks and balances that made America great, I wouldn't worry about somebody getting wealthy

[00:33:39] because they'd be getting wealthy within a framework of honesty, integrity, morality. Okay, you're going to get wealth on your own hard work. I don't have any problem with any of that. But when you have a fiat money system, when you have a system of laws that protect certain people above other people so you don't have a level playing field and you have dishonest money and you have these other things in place, because of the violation of the principles now, you've given people special privilege at the trough at the expense of others. That's kind of my big concern. So the principles solve it.

[00:34:09] I concur 100% if you obey them. But the problem has been created by what Joe left out. So his point has validity to some degree as long as you bring in the point that you and I are making, which is how do we get off the rails? By violating the principles. How do we return to the solution? By obeying the principles. Right? I mean, that's really the takeaway here. Well, and the fact of the matter is that the playing field or the rules, the paradigm, whatever you want to call it,

[00:34:38] that's been created is based upon a fascist perspective. Now you say fascist. What the heck are you talking? This isn't Nazism. This isn't Mussolini on the stage again. No, fascism basically is a blending of government and business for the favorites. So we're picking favorites. If you decided that you're going to emphasize solar power or wind power, for example, you're giving rebates

[00:35:07] on buying a Tesla car or something like that. What has happened now is the government has picked the winners and the losers. And that's where the basis has really gone astray. It violates the principles. Government cannot take that mode constitutionally. They have done it. They've done it for a long time. And as you point out, some of these guys that are the big tech winners right now became big tech winners

[00:35:36] because government picked them as a winner. And they took our taxpayer money and they funded them and encouraged them and Molly coddled them along. That's virtually how Elon Musk got all of his wealth. Well, and he's not the only one. I mean, you look at all of these guys that are trying to dictate, I mean, whether it's a vaccine policy that Bill Gates is pushing, I mean, these guys got their preeminence because of a government picking that. that is a violation of policy and policy principle.

[00:36:05] And we need to understand that you can't do that. And really, what's happening right now is kind of the antithesis of that where the Congress, the House and the Senate and the Supreme Court and the President previously encouraged this idea of banning TikTok. Well, maybe they don't like what you do on Liberty News or Liberty Roundtable or whatever. By golly, that guy is just blabbing his mouth off all the time about vaccines or about this

[00:36:35] constitutional nonsense or whatever. And pretty soon, if they can ban this company, why can't they ban your company? And that's an intervention of government in an area that should not be. That's for sure expected to get worse, ladies and gentlemen. And if you think that Trump's going to be the guy to shut that down, I don't think so. Trump's his big tech and big business and big whatever is the rest of us. And I don't, again, have any problem with the people building wealth. As long as the playing

[00:37:04] field's there, as long as contracts are honored, as long as government doesn't pull the lever in favor of a few at the expense of the many, as long as we have honest money, as long as, okay, but we don't have those things. And so we are entering, in my opinion, I think Joe's right on this, we are entering a scenario where you know what? They're going to avoid the principles like you've never seen before and they're going to enumerate a massive concentration of power. And I'm afraid under the nationalist banner, America first, they're promoting

[00:37:33] globalism like you would not believe, ladies and gentlemen. For example, New York City mayor, Eric Adams, for example, he's got a federal indictment in play right now and anything else. I don't know if you know this, he just flew down to Mar-a-Lago to hang out with Donald. Donald, why is Trump meeting with Adams? But yet, Trump doesn't have time to meet with us? Trump doesn't have time to meet with Tina Peters, Steve Stockman, Stuart Rhodes, many of the other people that need pardon? I mean, come on now. But that's what

[00:38:03] I'm talking about. But I have a little bit of good news, Dr. Bradley. FBI quietly closes the DEI office in anticipation of Donald Trump. Christina Layla over at thegatewaypundant.com has the news. Now, I think it's great news on one hand. On the other hand, I'm convinced they're not getting rid of their DEI policies. They're just going to rename them and crank them up in the background in secret under some other, you know, I don't know what you want to call it, government division program, whatever. I don't think they're

[00:38:32] really getting rid of it like we're being told. It's good that they shut it down, but we've got to keep an eye on that ball, I'm telling you right now. Well, absolutely. And you look what happened when the courts ruled that the, it really was discrimination it was discrimination against white guys and Asians and stuff where they said, no, you can't do that on academic stuff. Well, the, the, the universities continue to do it. It's just on a little different, we don't actually,

[00:39:02] it's wink, wink, nod, nod, you know, hold your mouth a certain way and it still happens. But I'm afraid that will happen too. But, but you look at what, what everything's going on fidelity wise. I mean, I don't know as we've got very many that sit in the high places that are being faithful to their spouses and so how can they be faithful to their constitutional responsibility? And we can name some very

[00:39:32] prominent names. Yeah. That's what I'm saying is they don't care about the principals, they're just interested in making sure they stay rich, that they hang out with the rich and famous and all this kind of stuff. And I don't think Joe Biden is the poster guy for telling this story. He basically got rich in 50 years of criminal activity in government with zero accountability too. So don't get me wrong, I'm not defending him. I'm just merely saying that we've got to really kind of keep an eye on these balls. And once in a while when somebody's half right, you've got to at least highlight the points that they're making and admit that there's some true good things about that. Now Trump also now

[00:40:01] appointed three Hollywood stars. He says he's going to restore the golden age of Hollywood. Doctor, I don't mean to be rude but this is just look, the golden age of Hollywood. You know, Sam, this is the wrong headed view that I'm talking about. We're not turning to God now, we're turning to Hollywood and making Hollywood great again? Well, that's the thing. If you look at the private lives, if you will, of virtually anybody, I mean, Jimmy Stewart,

[00:40:32] you know, John Wayne, I mean, Errol Flynn, I mean, pick anybody except for maybe Shirley Temple. Marilyn Monroe. No. Yeah, I mean, you look at this, I mean, this is, is debauchery to the nth degree. That was Hollywood in its golden era? I mean, come on, what are we going to do about this thing? It's just, this guy's dinking around, meddling with almost everything. And by the way, I wish there was Tom. Almost everything that's irrelevant, though. And why do we want to spend our time on Hollywood when we need to

[00:41:01] abolish the IRS? When we talk about abolishing the IRS, Donald Trump comes back and says, well, I want to create an external IRS. Well, that's for, an external, yeah, you know, service, whatever, ERS. And I'm just thinking, I mean, I'm fine with, but we already have ways to receive tariffs and everything else. We need to focus on abolishing the IRS, but he's not even focused on, as far as I can tell, anything that's really critical to what we need done at this point that I see. Well, you know, for the last couple of years while he was

[00:41:31] running for president, he made a lot of promises and I've said many, many times that he's overpromised and he will underdeliver and it will make and he's already backing away from many of them, even the mainstream press is finally admitting. Well, but the thing is, there's like, like almost a dozen things that he said he's going to do on the first day of office, okay? And some of them are very laudable to try and get some things done but holy cow, he's going to have writer's cramp from signing all his executive orders, you know? Well, and again,

[00:42:01] the problem that I have is they're unconstitutional. We need to continue to hammer that home. However, there's people on the stage that are trying to get, you know, confirmed by the Senate for the appointed positions or the recommended positions that Donald Trump has for them. Marco Rubio is one of them and I'm not a Marco Rubio fan really. However, his, I don't know what you want to say, stint on the stand was quite interesting to say the least, Dr. Bradley. Here's the details and I want to get your take on this. Secretary of State nominee Marco Rubio

[00:42:31] warned during his confirmation hearings on Wednesday night that it will take China less than 10 years to virtually control every aspect of Americans' lives if the U.S. fails to change course. Rubio said the Chinese communists or the CCP has a stronghold over key industries and America will become entirely dependent on China if they aren't already for a variety

[00:43:01] of products from medicines to films to everything in the future. Do you want to respond to that one? That's kind of an interesting statement from Marco Rubio. Well, I think that of course the context and everything but let's just take it as a broad brush statement. I think they're already well on their way and it's a self-inflicted wound again. When back in the days of Ronald Reagan we gave most favored nation status. Here they are they can trade

[00:43:31] with us without any penalties or risks or anything like that. They can gobble up our economy and it's a slave labor based economy in China literally and that used to be probably still is on the books but back in the 1930s we passed a law that said we could not import goods and services made by slave labor. Well, they say well we pay them 17 cents a month I mean what do you want us to do? I mean I'm overstating that a little bit but the fact of the matter

[00:44:01] is that we have cut our own throats basically our steel industry is owned by them we have some others in Asia too that we buy from also but we basically passed off down in your neck of the woods and Eva Steel was sold to them lock, stock and barrel every nut and bolt of that facility was taken apart shipped to China and reassembled so that they could do steel when you build a 60 ton tank a battle tank where are you going to get your steel kids?

[00:44:31] I mean think about it for a minute I mean steel is a pretty good armor I mean it's necessary in our defensive world but we have basically off shore where do we get most of our boots? Some are out of Asia probably okay so we're going to put our people in boots but they were made in Asia I mean our fabric our clothing our electronics I remember back in the 80s and I can get far afield on this the Chinese were coming to our

[00:45:00] big computer shows they'd have us take the skins off of our devices and they photographed them every angle they possibly could pin layouts they did solid state boards layouts they looked at how we did they took they reversed engineered everything we did and now you know we're talking 30 40 years later they're beating the socks off of us for a lot of things and we've been foolish enough to continue to trade

[00:45:30] with them on that basis and we've basically sold our nation for a mess of pottage well you gotta ask the question to Marco Rubio if he's gonna say if we don't change courses immediately how do you propose changing course Marco Rubio and I don't mean to be rude with this question but I'm just saying you know what do you propose to do well I'd like to hear some solid substantive answers I mean these broad brush well the first answer is abolish the Federal Reserve and get rid of fake money so you have a real economic engine that's

[00:46:00] based on honest money honest transactions I mean that's at the center of everything else isn't it you're going back to principles again Sam come on I mean you know you're being a little bit just the second thing you do is you simply say we're not giving foreign aid to anybody period end a paragraph from a financial point of view anymore well foreign aid is a huge problem but it's it's not just foreign aid it's domestic I know but if you can't send money if you get into the Federal Reserve and then you shut down foreign aid hey we're off to the races now all you got to do is start a

[00:46:30] boss in the IRS and the education department just shutting them down shutting them down because you got to get in if you have honest money you got to get into the ability that we have to spend and that that's true but it used to be 200 years ago illegal for foreigners to buy land in the United States and it should be now there's a thought isn't there I mean of course then you got the people that will be shell companies and everything

[00:46:59] don't care but we have sold our economy we've sold our heritage we have sold our liberty we have abandoned our country's voter base I mean every single thing is today is right but the good news is Jesus is still going to come and we need to prepare people for his return and that's what we are doing on your radio talking about principles and I you know so I commend Marco Rubio for throwing out this warning I kind of wonder what he's done though to put us in the right

[00:47:29] track since he's been in government for quite some time part of the problem is they you know they break it for years and then when they get in authority or power or position they act like oh here's the solution please put me in place to provide the solution when you know they're the ones that broke the thing in the first place in many many many many ways you know the death of a thousand cuts kind of an idea comes to mind but there's a final story I want to get to before the end of the hour because this is shocking RFKJR hopefully will get nominated

[00:47:58] and approved by the Senate and everything it's going to be a battle I can promise you that but the reason I bring this all up right now is because headline says this cancer hitting women young women young people more often new stats show in a they call it a shocking shift and so you've got this situation where women now are getting cancer way more than men and it's young women and young men and women are getting cancer for they claim

[00:48:28] unknown reasons this is something that we are getting a starting point but all I'm telling you is this is a huge discussion coming up where do we land well I'm just looking for a text I sent out yesterday when this issue came up about these turbo whatevers that are happening

[00:48:58] the idea nobody not in academics not in medicine not religious leaders not media people not anybody that's out there will admit there might be something that we're doing differently than we did before and nobody will equate with the jab nobody will say try the jab try our manipulated fake food too that we're growing these modified foods and everything else put that together with the jab and you've got a disaster in the making

[00:49:27] you're playing God sir it's the tower of Babel all over and every industry under the sun it truly is but the fact of the matter is that nobody I mean I'm talking about the highest levels of any of the industries that are out there will admit that you know what there may be something different I mean these turbo cancers these autoimmune diseases these strokes and heart attacks with young men that's where it's particularly there I just found one the other day that was well I didn't find it

[00:49:57] it was sent to me on a text about a young mother just had twins everything was all thumbs up all the way around happy family the kids were doing good and the mom's doing great boom gone heart problem when does a 20 something year old mom suddenly have a heart attack I mean this kind of stuff was unheard of kill jab my friend that's exactly right and the well I'm you know and the fact that nobody will

[00:50:26] will equate that to the death jab and here we have I've been doing it since day one our government has put 176 million dollars if my source is right towards a bird flu vaccine our federal government has now and Newsom has declared an emergency in California over the bird flu I mean panic rules and reigns and we can't even seem to recover from the big problem we just had and people have such short memories

[00:50:55] how horrific the impositions were upon everything from our economy to our personal lives we were all put in in lockdown we were in solitary confinement in our own homes and then we came up with this warp speed jab that Donald Trump put out and it was and that's going to be one of the big litmus tests for the Donald does he come out of the gate backing RFKJR and starting to tell the truth on vaccines and admitting that he made a serious mistake before or does he just double down

[00:51:25] in defense of it anyway time will tell but that's again we need to see what kind of change and we're going to see it now by the way Donald Trump said right now according to the blaze preserve and retain preserve and retain all records Trump issues dire warning to FBI staff isn't it a day late and a dollar short for that doctor well I think that Hillary Clinton found the message

[00:51:54] to be one she could take care of with hammers on her hard drives and bit bleach or bleach everything like that but by the way you talk about what's Trump going to do on the jab thing his surgeon general is a jab monger I mean she is the queen of the vaccine world here's his chief doctor if you will for the nation I don't think you're seeing a shift from what we had you know

[00:52:23] four years ago and I'm sorry to say that but it just seems to be what we're what's coming out of the woodwork I pray that we don't turn into a you know they don't turn Trump into the world war president but I'm fearful that's what they're going to do too I think that the gloves are coming off come Monday well like I say though I mean we're talking about MAGA I mean a lot of us assumed that was a let's turn inward let's do the right things in America and things will be good again you know the DEA gets

[00:52:53] gotten rid of these onerous taxes you know all these things he's talked about but it but he's been it just he's turned it outside and it's become imperialistic almost and you can't make America great by conquering other lands that is not what our nation's about so yeah there's there's some grave concerns and I know we're about out of time but I guess it depends on how you define great if you're talking to Alexander the Great or the great you know pharaohs and the great whatever you know you turn

[00:53:23] you can have a worldly greatness that'll be fleeting to say the least or you can make America moral again and have a real change for true greatness following the Prince of Peace that's the reality check well and and in my book and in my book I talk about the spiritual roots of America and I talk about the moral basis of our liberty and without those focuses we might be great economically or some other means you know militarily we we hold preeminence among the nations of

[00:53:53] the world in some worldly measurement but we are going to fail in our own personal liberty if we don't do it right and eventually that means failing everything over time because you can't turn your back on God and have success it doesn't work that way people anyway there you have it I testify that Christ did rise from the dead and he invites all of us to follow him and in doing so we find the greatest peace stability safety protection and liberty there's no other way dr.

[00:54:22] Bradley freedoms rising sun.com thank you you are listening to Liberty Roundtable live have a delightful weekend we will be on the air Monday to kick off right before the inauguration so we've got a couple of hours of breakdown for you on Monday for that stay tuned check out my videos as well at liberty roundtable dot com short videos on a variety of subjects got almost 40 of them up now God save the republic thanks everybody