Radio Show Hour 2 – 01/13/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard-hitting news that I refuse to use, no doubt, continues now. This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for January the 13th in the year of our Lord, 2025.

[00:00:39] This is Hour 202 and the goal always to protect life, liberty, and property, to promote God, family, and country on your radio in the traditions of our founding fathers using the supreme law of the land, using the checks and balances put in place by the founders, and best of all, rejecting revolution unless it's a Jesus revolution. Then we're in. Our buddy Lowell Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org with us. Welcome back, sir. And Trump says we need Greenland very badly. So now Denmark saying it's not for sale.

[00:01:09] Denmark's saying they're going to keep control of it. Greenland's saying we want independence from Denmark. Trump saying I'm ready to buy it. The question becomes, how much do we buy it for? How much is it worth? And then people are looking at Alaska, and people are looking at the Virgin Islands, and all these other examples, and they're having a hard time kind of deciding if it's a big, you know, part of our economy, then it's worth more than if it's just for the minerals. And the debate rages on. Number one, should we buy Greenland? And number two, how much?

[00:01:37] My problem with it is, back in the day, Lowell, they tried to build this North American Union, and we all rejected it, wisely so, because it was regional and global governance. Now we seem to be expanding into Canada, into Mexico, into Greenland, into the Panama Canal, and we're not calling it globalism. We're saying it's in the name of nationalism. And I'm seeing that they're bringing back the North American Union. They're basically promoting globalism under a nationalism banner. What do you say, sir?

[00:02:07] Well, I say that freedom and liberty is more easily protected by the smaller states, meaning nation states. Typically, right, if you have a homogenous nation that's huge, then you've got this top-down authority, tyranny basically, imposed from the top down on all the little people. And that doesn't happen when government is close to the people. And so if you have smaller nation states, then that government can be closer to the people and remains closer to the people.

[00:02:36] I think liberty is more easily preserved when the government is close to the people and they get to choose, you know, how to be governed. So, yeah, so I'm not in favor of a union like the North American Union that you mentioned. I'm not in favor of the European Union. I'm much more in favor of independent, sovereign countries in Europe acting sovereign. And the same goes for countries in North America.

[00:03:04] I want Canada to continue to be its own independent, sovereign country. You don't want to just take it over, buddy, and make it the 51st state? No. No, I don't think that would be wise. In fact, even if Canada wanted to join up with us, you know, we would want to take its provinces as, you know, allow them to be independent, sovereign nations.

[00:03:28] And because Saskatchewan is not the same as Ottawa, you know, Canada, Quebec, right? I mean, they're very different. And so could Quebec be its own independent state? Well, yeah, I think so. I think Saskatchewan could be its own independent. British Columbia, its own independent nation, right? I mean, so I think that for the sake of liberty, I think it's a bad idea. Yeah, you'd have to change that thing to America, Columbia, right? Yeah, right.

[00:03:57] We'd have to, I don't know, I so like the idea of a big conglomerate of trying to unify under one great head, right? Under one great head. Amen. Well, forget expansion. Doge is the objective to do the exact opposite, right? Well, certainly it could have an effect because Doge, D-O-G-E, right, the Department of Government, what is it? I can't remember. Efficiency.

[00:04:28] Efficiency, there we go. Is going to probe into, you know, where can money be, wasted money not be wasted, right? Where are we currently wasting money that we don't have to waste, right? Well, these guys think that already some of the $1.4 trillion could be saved, meaning not wasted, simply by doing some very simple things. That's a huge number.

[00:04:54] I mean, that's a thousand billions, and a billion is a thousand million, so we don't even understand the size of that number. I mean, $1 trillion is an astronomical number. Well, $1.4 trillion could be saved just in the first year of Trump's presidency if they're able to do what, you know, they want to do. And Rand Paul even highlighted himself a trillion dollars of savings, put together a blueprint for him and everything.

[00:05:24] Yeah, exactly. And so if they're able to do this, right, then what that means is there'll be less money for the government to waste, and that means less money for them to, like, spend on buying Greenland, for example, or to, you know, buy the Panama Canal back, right? Or to bring the troops home and actually take care of them, for crying out loud. Amen, brother. So it's something that needs to happen.

[00:05:52] So Ron Paul writes in his column last week, he refers to a book that Robert Higgs wrote called Crisis and Leviathan. I guess Robert Higgs, I don't know Robert, but apparently he's a libertarian thinker, and he pointed out that the state uses crises to ratchet up its power and control over the citizen. Now, let me just add to this. The CSPOA, we always refer to the crisis of the day, right? It doesn't matter what it is.

[00:06:22] They always put it into the crisis, man, the crisis of the day. And, you know, we've got to be smart enough not to fall for the crisis lie of the day. Ninety-nine percent of them aren't even crises, right? That's right. In fact, are we under 17 emergencies right now, Sam? Oh, yeah, because there's crises everywhere, you know. And which apparently gives the president emergency powers. The only crisis is the lie about the crisis. Yes. That's right.

[00:06:50] The Constitution, in the Constitution, the states did not grant to the general government any authority at all to do things differently in a crisis or in an emergency than in the normal, routine, mundane life. In fact, they provided guidance and warning that in the crisis mode is when we need to be most strict adherent to the Constitution. Not that we need to not do that all the time. Of course we do. But the point is the Constitution, the checks and balances, the intentional division of authority

[00:07:20] and power were to prevent crisis and handle crisis when it came, right? Right. If we stick to that blueprint for liberty, the Constitution was written by the 13 states, you know, representatives from the 13 original states, we would not be having these problems today, Sam. If we would simply follow the blueprint, right? How often do we go back and look at that?

[00:07:48] Well, you know, you and I go back and look at that every day probably, but Congress doesn't, right? They think, well, if it's something that's going to be good for my pocketbook and for my campaign, then let's do it because I just need to stay in this seat because I'm a good guy, they think. And, you know, the Constitution be damned pretty much. Who cares about that old archaic document? We're just going to do what's right. We're going to do what's good for the country.

[00:08:16] That's in the best interest of our national security. And they go on and on with this diatribe, and we end up losing freedom after freedom. So crises are the way typically the governments grow. And so Ron Paul cites the 9-11 crisis. And out of that, we got this Director of National Intelligence. We got a Department of Homeland Security. We got the Patriot Act. Numerous infringements upon our liberty. He mentions Russiagate, right?

[00:08:46] This crisis invented by the Hillary Clinton campaign to try to defeat Trump in 2016. Well, even though Trump won, the crisis certainly slowed him down and basically hobbled his presidency, as Ron Paul puts it. Well, out of that crisis, the government decided that the First and Fourth Amendment does not apply here to us anymore. They've decided that consuming certain media should not be allowed, Sam, and they do that for our own safety. Right?

[00:09:15] They have denied Americans the right to access media from countries that the U.S. government considers enemies. Now, in the name of fighting imaginary foreign meddling in our elections, Americans are the ones who have found that their rights are being curtailed. And then basically he ends his column talking about the GEC, the Global Engagement Center,

[00:09:38] whose stated purpose was, quote, to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed at undermining or influencing the policies, security, or stability of the United States. And it was created by Barack Obama via executive order in 2016. Criminally so. Why Trump didn't overturn it, don't know. Why Congress didn't have a fit and impeached the president over it, don't know.

[00:10:05] But now that program, just like George Bush predicted, oh, we're not spying on the American people. It's only for international phone calls with terrorists. And then he admitted, well, he was spying on everybody with it. Instead of prosecuting him to the fullest extent of the law, they gave him a pass. They gave Barack a pass. And now we have this behemoth that Ron Paul is saying we need to jettison. And I concur, but we need to hold criminals responsible for creating it and abusing us with it in the first place. That's spot on, Sam. Go ahead and skip the break, Lowell. Go ahead.

[00:10:35] The GEC was caught red-handed, apparently. And so funding for the GEC was cut from Speaker Johnson's 1,500-page omnibus spending bill. And yet, the beast lives on, Sam. Yep, the Biden administration renamed the GEC to the Counter-Foreign Information Manipulation and Interference Hub. That's a mouthful. The Counter-Foreign Information Manipulation and Interference Hub.

[00:11:03] Well, so they renamed the GEC to that, retained the same old GEC employees. And now, so we've got the same people doing the same job just under a different name. And domestically, too, right? That's exactly right. Yeah. They defund the GEC, but then they fund this Gini Hub. Right? So it's just a show game for them, Sam. Well, and that's my fear about the Education Department.

[00:11:31] They may very well basically be able to post publicly that they abolished the Education Department. But if you're not very careful, here's what will happen. Let's say all the mental discussions about mental illness and health care and all these things in the government schools, medications by nurses, boys wanting to be girls, crisis management. If they take that out of the Education Department and put it under the National Institutes of Health or the Drug Enforcement Agency or whatever, it's going to be 10 times worse because they're

[00:12:01] going to have now kind of an... Instead of just saying it's the Education Department, they're going to say, well, this is medical. This is necessary. This is... You know... And so if you're not very careful, they're going to put everybody through a mental evaluation through the education system. But it won't be the Education Department. They abolish that, don't you know? And so they'll take all these pieces of the Education Department, put it under other government agencies that are much more sinister and abusive and hostile and hate-filled and can be, you know, pointed domestically at the people in a hostile, weaponized way.

[00:12:31] But will run around just saying, we got rid of the Education Department. Isn't that incredible? You suckers have been deceived. Yeah, they pat themselves on the back and they brag that they've eliminated the Department of Education. Whoopee, right? But basically, the employees there, they'll just start... They'll continue their work under a different name, under a different department, whatever. And, you know, that's why, Sam, I really believe the solution here is what Thomas Jefferson

[00:13:00] James Madison outlined in the Principles of 98 and 99. Basically, that states need to act like states, which are sovereign entities and independent of, right? And then they can shut down. They don't have to take money, you know, from the federal government. They don't have to be puppets on a string to the general government. And if states would just stand up and reject this nonsense coming out of Washington, D.C., then we would be much freer, right? We'd have more local control... Couldn't agree more.

[00:13:30] ...than we have now. Yep. Amen. Amen. Couldn't agree more. And when Ron Paul wants to get rid of the Global Engagement Center or GEC, amen, let's get it done. Ron Paul, good for you. Great column. And we agree. But I'm really disappointed in Elon Musk already. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Because they're starting their own efficiency podcast, the Doge podcast. They shouldn't do that. They should just rely on us, the external media, for that. Mm-hmm. But here's the deal. Here's the shame story, in my opinion.

[00:13:58] Musk backtracks on goal of $2 trillion in cuts. He says, but cutting half that amount for the budget would still be a huge win. So he's already dropped this $2 trillion proposal down to a trillion. Mm-hmm. RobQuinnNewser.com. I think it's good that we're still looking at a trillion dollars in savings, but we just chopped it in half. You don't do that before you start negotiating, lol. No. All that does is make the top number a trillion, not two trillion now.

[00:14:27] I mean, he's already lost the battle, and he hasn't even begun to negotiate. Why would you do that? He hasn't begun to fight yet, doggone him. You know? I don't know. But you're right. I'm disappointed, because the goal should still be to cut $2 trillion, right? I got to increase it to $3 trillion. Come on. Yeah. Before COVID, you know, the government was spending $4 trillion every year, but bringing in $3 trillion in tax revenues, right? Basically. And big, big round numbers.

[00:14:56] And then COVID came along, and they bumped that up and spent COVID. They added COVID expenditures, which basically doubled from $4 trillion to $8 trillion. Which never went away, by the way. And has not gone away. So they really ought to be cutting at least $4 trillion from the budget in real cuts, not cutting the increases, but actual cutting the actual money being expended, right? Right? That's the number that they should be shooting for. Not $2 trillion.

[00:15:23] It should be $4 trillion in cuts that they should be targeting. But he already dropped it to $1 trillion. We're not even close now. Doge is already a failure almost. Now, they might get a few things done, but we've got to watch them very carefully, because it might be a magic trick, like I explained with the education department. But all I can tell you is if we're not very careful, he's not getting anything done. He's put his top number at $1 trillion now, which means we'll probably get, you know, half a trillion, which I'm not saying is not significant money, but I'm saying it doesn't begin to solve

[00:15:52] the problem, really. And if Doge is going to end a year and a half later, how much are they even going to get done? They're going to fight and whine and complain. And at the end of the day, I don't see a whole lot coming out of it. I don't mean to be negative from the start, but I'm just telling you right now, when you're the negotiator and you start by chopping your bid in half before you even sit down to the table, you've already shown weakness and inability to carry the ball. We also need to remember it's Congress that has the purse strings of the government.

[00:16:20] And so Doge can, even if Doge were to identify $4 trillion, that could be cut. It really comes back to Congress. Congress has to actually, you know, they're the ones that appropriate the money. But they're never going to push for more than than Elon Musk is calling for. So if he's already dropped to a trillion, I'm just telling you, that's the top number, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. But but let's hold let's hold Congress accountable because they're the ones who actually make the decision. It's not the president. It's not the judiciary. It's not the Doge.

[00:16:50] It's the Congress. And specifically, it's the House, the 435 members in the House. They're the ones who are appropriating money. It's not the Senate, not the senators. They can approve an appropriation of money and they should they should vote against any appropriation that that, you know, where this year's budget is greater than last year's. But it's the U.S. House, the 435 representatives. They're the ones who are ultimately responsible.

[00:17:18] They're the ones whose feet we need to hold to the fire, Sam. Amen. The CCP is a serious threat. We're told so. And it's true. I think domestically we're in bed with the CCP and that's a whole nother threat and a whole nother can of worms. But for now, I guess there was a defector from China that spoke at a local Highland meeting and was very candid about the threat law. Absolutely, Sam. This was a highlight of my week last week.

[00:17:46] I hosted the meeting last Friday night. The young man there, he goes he took on the name Alvin. We're just going to call him Alvin. He came to the United States six years ago, Sam, after graduating from high school there. So he's a very young man. He's about 24, 25 right now. Not married yet. He wants us Americans to wake up to the fact that we are inching our way toward communism every single day.

[00:18:13] And he was able to point out the similarities that are occurring right here in America that occurred in China years ago. Right. And so just at a very early age, Sam, Alvin was in elementary school in China where students are taught that the free spirit is a sin. Right. Free. In other words, a free thinking. Right. If you think independent thoughts, if you think and talk about anything other than what

[00:18:41] the Communist Party of China wants you to think, then you are outside the line. You're outside the expected norm. And so you deserve to be shamed and embarrassed in front of others. Sam, they are required to pledge their allegiance to the flag of the Communist Party of China every single morning. Well, when we talked about that, I began thinking in my own mind, what about the pledge of allegiance to our flag? I mean, is that maybe sort of communistic? I don't know.

[00:19:10] We can talk about that later after I kind of summarize the meeting. But when Alvin was young, people wondered, well, how is it that Alvin got out of China? Well, when Alvin was young, his grandfather was ordered by the Communist Party to destroy a bunch of Bible. Well, he did that, but he managed to smuggle one copy home. And Alvin began to read the Bible.

[00:19:35] Well, the power of the words in the Bible, the power of the message in the Bible awoke within him. It sparked in him this hope, this understanding, this desire to believe in God. You know, because they don't believe in God. I mean, in China, basically. They believe in their Communist Party. In government, the arm of flesh. Exactly.

[00:20:03] Well, so Alvin continued to read the Bible, and he essentially became a Christian in his early youth growing up, right? In elementary school, middle school, high school. And he even sort of ran a Christian underground in his high school, where he would have Bible study with fellow students there in his high school. Well, somebody snitched on him eventually, and he was called into the principal's office, and he was asked, do you know why you are here?

[00:20:32] He said, well, no, he replied. And the principal said, because you are sharing Christianity with your classmates. I'm sharing Bibles. Somebody snitched on me, right? That's right. And so the principal told him that if he continued to do that, there would be consequences, right? You would be expelled from the school. And if you get expelled from the school in Communist China, Sam, you don't get a job, right?

[00:21:00] And you have to go work underground, and you become a gangster or whatever. I mean, if you don't work for the Communist Party in China, you basically, your life is very poor. And you almost want to be in jail for at least three squares a day to some degree, right? Yeah, apparently, yeah. So anyways, Alvin, you know, as he approached high school graduation, well, actually much earlier than that,

[00:21:30] because every morning of this pledge to the Communist Party, he grew to understand, he came to understand that the Communist Party was killing Christians, right? Was responsible for the murder of numerous Christians in China. And so here he was expected to pledge his allegiance to the flag of the party every morning at school, pledge allegiance to a party that was killing Christians, and he himself believed himself to be a Christian.

[00:21:58] And so he couldn't do it, right, Sam? He went through the motions of the pledge, but he did not sincerely pledge his allegiance to the party. Now, after high school there in China, you're expected to sign a manifesto. And in this manifesto, you basically pledge your loyalty to the party, to the government, to the Communist Party of China, to the government. And if you don't do that, Sam, there will be consequences.

[00:22:26] Yeah, it's like the mafia on steroids, buddy. Yeah, he always used this word consequences. And they vary, of course. Consequences for a school student would be public shaming or visits to the principal's office or maybe being expelled from school. But consequences for an adult were really quite different, far more severe, right? I mean, if you had a job, you might lose your job, Sam.

[00:22:53] And for a man in the workforce, you know, the consequences could be dire. It might be a free trip to the re-education camp where party doctrine would be pounded into you day after day, hour after hour, right? Concentration camp, work camps, where you might never see the light of day again, Sam. Those are the kinds of consequences that people in Communist China today suffer if they don't tow the party line.

[00:23:21] You know, Alvin said that after he was born, his mother became pregnant a second time. But at that time, this would have been about 20 years ago, right? The law in China at that time forbade a second child, right? They had a one-child policy in China. Well, what happened? They forced her, right? Somebody snitched on her, right? They forced her to abort what would have become Alvin's younger sibling, which I think he said was a baby sister.

[00:23:50] I think it's so sad, Sam, that his mom had to kill, murder the child within her because of Communist policy in China. Well, and she won't be responsible for it because it was force. Left her her agency, she would have had the child. So bless the mother. Shame the government. Bottom line with this story, ladies and gentlemen, we need to understand that when this defector came to the Highland meeting,

[00:24:18] he warned that this is coming to a theater near you is the way I'll say it. Lowell will pick it up in seconds. You are listening to the one and only hard-hitting News the Network's Refused to Use talk show. Liberty Roundtable Live. Lowell Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org on your radio.

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[00:30:13] Casting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is Lowell Nelson riding shotgun this morning with Sam Bushman, your host of Liberty Roundtable Live. We've been talking about the Highland meeting the last Friday evening here in Highland, Utah, where a defector from Communist China spoke.

[00:30:42] He's a young man, about 24 years of age, and he was describing life in Communist China and what challenges he faced. Now, he defected from China. He was able to successfully leave China, and that was quite a story in and of itself. But the thing we were discussing was the fact that China had this one-child policy. And in recent years, like in the last 10, 20 years,

[00:31:11] they've begun to realize that their aging population cannot be supported by their one-child policy. And so they began to allow parents to have two children. And then finally, now I think the number is three, which I believe is the current limit. Alvin, the name of our defector is Alvin. Alvin still has a pretty thick accent, so I don't think I understood 100% of what he said all the time, maybe 90%, but he explained that the Communist Party,

[00:31:41] they're basically the government in China, controls behavior there by, you know, by consequences. If they see a behavior they don't like. With consequences, that's right. They first defame the behavior, then they shame the behavior, you know, this is a public shaming, and then they censor anything related to that behavior or idea, and then they finally criminalize that behavior, right? That's the progression.

[00:32:07] Defame, shame, censor, then criminalize. And so, you know, we have to ask ourselves the question, do we see any such trends here in America? Yes, big time. You have to answer the question, yes. I mean, all around us, examples everywhere. You know, for instance, let's just think briefly about boys competing in girls' sports programs, right? Well, here in Utah, Natalie Klein, who is serving on the Utah State School Board,

[00:32:37] spoke out against that. What happened to her? Well, she got defamed and then shamed in social media posts and in the newspaper. In fact, the Utah legislature even passed a resolution censoring Natalie for her courageous stand, you know, for protecting young ladies, right? And she was, and plus she was not reelected because of that public defamation and shaming. And so, yes, right here, living color, Sam,

[00:33:03] we have a real-life example of this very thing going on right here in America today. So, yeah, it's all around us, folks. And that's just one example. Sam could give you 20 more. So the description of life in China, let me talk about that for just a second. Alvin spent a few slides on that. He said that school children attend school from 7 in the morning to 10 p.m. at night, six and a half days per week. Can you believe that, Sam?

[00:33:33] So that's like every single day they go to school and they pledge allegiance to the Communist Party. They're there for, what is that, 12, 15 hours, 7 in the morning to 10 p.m., six and a half days. The only time they get a break from that and time to spend with the family is like half of a day every week. So that's right, like basically two days a month is the only time they can spend with family.

[00:34:01] The rest of that time they're in class, in school, government school, and having to conform their behavior to whatever the Communist Party wants them to do. Pretty sick. Well, the workday for adults is essentially the very same, 7 in the morning to 10 p.m., six and a half days a week. Well, Alvin said that students who fall asleep in class, they first get publicly humiliated. They shamed in front of the whole class, right?

[00:34:29] And so consequently, they have to drink a lot of coffee. I mean, this is just the nuts and bolts of what happens over there. And even then, you know, after prolonged use, coffee is not going to work for them to keep them awake. And so instead, Sam, you would not believe this if you didn't see it for yourself,

[00:34:50] but instead they begin to eat the ground coffee beans, you know, the unprocessed grounds, right? I mean, when you think of coffee grounds, what I think of is the grounds that exist after you've made a pot of coffee. I don't know much about coffee, but I think that they grind the coffee beans into, you know, so that you then can soak them in hot water and then make coffee out of that, I guess.

[00:35:16] Anyway, they would eat the coffee grounds without liquid because chewing on the ground coffee beans would help to keep them awake in school. Sam, can you believe that? Well, it's just typical of what tyrannical regimes do, Lowell. And throughout history, we've seen this. And any nation that turns away from God eventually ends up with this type of depravity. It's that simple. Wow. Yeah.

[00:35:43] And then another example, Sam, of what goes on over there, his grandparents, one side of his grandparents had, they lived in rural China, and they were able to build a foundry, you know, because it was so far out from, it was kind of like not on the radar for the Communist Party. And so this family built a foundry and provided jobs for a village of Chinese,

[00:36:12] and this little community basically prospered. And then the Communist Party caught wind of it, and they went in, and they delivered consequences to this village. Basically said, you can't be productive here. The Communist Party owns this foundry, not you. And they began dictating work schedules and policy and so forth.

[00:36:40] And so before you knew it, the consequences had their effect. And so Alvin showed us a picture of the before and after condition of that village. The before picture was of a productive community around a still meal, right, and people with jobs, people with food, eating and having at least some quality of life. The after picture, on the other hand, showed basically slum housing, no mill, no production,

[00:37:09] no jobs, trashy neighborhoods. And Alvin said that without jobs, then the only thing people can turn to to stay alive is gangs and sex work. That's how they feed their families. If you don't have a job with the Communist Party, then your only option, Sam, is you get in a gang and start terrorizing the neighborhood, stealing, basically, turning to a life of crime and not getting caught by the party.

[00:37:37] Or you do sex work. You sell your body for money to purchase what little goods you can find to feed your family. Sam, it just breaks your heart. It does. It's brutal. And the best way we can combat it, ladies and gentlemen, is make America great again by turning to God Almighty and becoming a light on a hill. And our greatest export ought to be the supreme law of the land, the Constitution, with all of its checks and balances. If people learn across the world that their sovereign nation should be pointed to God Almighty,

[00:38:07] that the people there need to repent and turn to God and pray hard and then get up and go to work and demand accountability, hey, we can teach the Chinese to do the same, and they can throw off a tyrannical government. But I'm telling you that it starts with turning to God Almighty every time, Lowell. You will not be successful without it. Look at the difference between the United States Revolution and the French Revolution. What was the difference? Ours was a godly turn-to-God revolution. Theirs was not. And you see a clear contrast to what happened. So we've got to point people to Christ.

[00:38:37] You're exactly right, Sam. You know, Alvin is the only member of his family in America. He was able to, with a passport, he said he was able to go to the airport, and he didn't show his passport to a person because they had just installed electronic readers of passports. And so he said, he just shoved his passport underneath the electronic reader.

[00:39:05] He was so scared as a little 17-, 18-year-old boy leaving China without anybody to be with him, knowing no English, by the way. He just put his passport underneath the card reader, and magically the doors opened in front of him. He scampered through the door, got on the plane, flew 18 hours, and 18 hours later landed at the O'Hare Airport in Chicago. And then he began studying English, right?

[00:39:33] He got his little dictionary of, I think he said, 60,000 words, and he would take 200 words every day and try to learn English. And basically he self-taught himself English, and his English is pretty darn good for having studied it for just six years. He does talk to his family still, and he said that his mother now is reading the Bible, and she wants to talk about it, of course, with Alvin,

[00:40:02] because she's excited to share with her boy what she's learning in the Bible. But Alvin always shuts down the conversation immediately when she starts piping up about it because he's afraid that his mother will suffer consequences if the party discovers her newfound interest in Christianity. And just like in the United States, right, the party over there, they capture all communication, just like they do here in the United States.

[00:40:29] Every single word you say on the radio or into a phone or that you text or on social media, that is captured and stored in a huge database right here in the United States, Sam. Amen to that. Let's go ahead and skip the break and continue where we're leaving off here. All I'm telling you is this is serious. It's really critical to hear from one of these people that are telling you from the inside the reality check.

[00:40:55] And his fair warning to us, Lowell, is that, you know what, he sees us heading down the same road, right? That's exactly his warning to us. You know, one other question he was asked during the Q&A portion of our meeting was whether he fears for his own life, you know, for his own safety here in America. I mean, he even had a student, a fellow student in Iowa University before he came to BYU,

[00:41:23] out him and said, boy, if you ever go back to China, I am going to tattle on you. And so Alvin believes that he will never, Sam, be able to return to China else he would be taken, imprisoned in a re-education camp if not killed. I mean, his organs might be harvested and then he'd be left to die. I mean, that's what's happening to Christians in China today.

[00:41:49] And so he doesn't believe that he will ever, ever be able to go back to China. And so, I don't know, Sam, it's so sobering. I mean, it is sobering to listen to Alvin talk about life in communist China today. And we have to believe that North Korea is the same way, right? We have to believe there are numerous communist dictatorships in Cuba, right?

[00:42:13] We had heard from Gabby two or three months ago talk about life in communist Cuba. It's the very same story. And imagine us having these people as our most favored nation trading partner. Imagine us shoveling billions, trillions of dollars their way over the last three decades. And imagine this, you know, maybe longer, four or five decades since the 70s, 80s kind of reigned. So five decades or four at least.

[00:42:40] And you look at that and you go, and we're building their greatest military to enforce their will everywhere around the world. And they're pushing to now possibly take over Taiwan. They're basically having police stations in the United States. We've covered that. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. But you ain't seen nothing yet with their tyrannical goals. They want to destroy America. And they're hell-bent on it, Lowell.

[00:43:03] Yeah, you know, the only saving grace we might have, Sam, is that because their people are taught to not think, they do not innovate. They don't have entrepreneurs. And you and I both know that all the great ideas of humanity come through entrepreneurial spirit, through creative thinking. And they don't have creative thinkers in China. So the only way to get the technology is to buy it or steal it.

[00:43:30] And we both know that the U.S. has been selling our technology to China for years. And that's the reason they can compete on the world stage militarily with us is because they, you know, they don't invent it, but they steal it. And then they improve what they get. The Japanese are really good at this, too. They can take anything and improve upon it. And so that's how they get their technology.

[00:43:59] That's why China is a threat militarily to the world today. And, you know, because they get their technology from us. Amen to that. One last comment on this. Then we've got a couple of other stories I want to get to really quick before the end of the hour. A shout-out to Christians everywhere. Have you put your trust in God forever? Because that's what it's going to take to beat communism, ladies and gentlemen. All right. Jimmy Carter has been celebrated. Hypocritical to say the least.

[00:44:29] Lowell. Yeah. You know, he ordered U.S. athletes to boycott the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow, Russia. Why? Well, because the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in 1979. So one year later, we'd place ourselves back in 1980. The athletes from the U.S. were told, you can't go to Moscow. You cannot compete in the 1980 Summer Olympics.

[00:45:05] Can you imagine? It would be a huge disappointment to these young athletes not to be able to go. Well, you know, Sam, I would think, you know, I would. Why did they go anyway? The president has no authority to deny a citizen the right to travel, right? In a free society. In this article, I'm taking this from an article by Jacob G. Hornberger.

[00:45:32] He says in a free society, people may travel wherever they choose. They interact with anyone they want. Amen. So that's the first problem with Carter's order. Carter, Jimmy Carter had no authority to order the U.S. athletes not to go to Moscow, Russia, right? That's number one. That's the big problem with his order. I would really like to, I would have liked to have seen what would have happened had the U.S. team gone to Moscow, Russia anyway, right?

[00:46:02] Well, the answer is we would have set the stage for more liberty, for more understanding, had we not been so war-headed or so war-minded of warlike people, and we led with Christianity and led with the light on a hill mentality. You know, we probably could have a different outcome than we have right this very second, for that matter. Yeah. And the final note on this story, by the way, it's ironic that in issuing the boycott order to protest Russia's invasion of Afghanistan,

[00:46:30] Carter was demonstrating that, well, he was hypocritical, because Carter was the one that provoked the Soviets into attacking Afghanistan in the first place. In other words, they wanted to mire Soviet Russia down in Afghanistan, just like the U.S. got mired in Vietnam a couple decades earlier. And so that's the hypocrisy. Well, Jimmy Carter's meeting his maker now, and, you know, I pray his hands are clean and his heart is pure. That's all I can say about it.

[00:46:59] But shame on the hypocritical nature of that. And the reason we bring it up now is because there's leaders that have similar hypocritical realities in our day that we need to be savvy about and stand against, to say the least. We got good news from the Eagle Forum. Lul? Yeah, we always like to share a little bit of good news. And this is an email I got from Chris Ullman, president of the National Eagle Forum. I won't read the whole email because it would take up the rest of our time.

[00:47:28] But basically there was a decision made in the U.S. District Court in Eastern District of Kentucky. And the court basically said that they struck down the Biden administration's proposal that gender identity be included in the definition of sex in Title IX. In other words, Biden administration wanted boys in girls' sports,

[00:47:56] and this court in Eastern Kentucky said, no way, we're not doing that, folks. They said it's abundantly clear that discrimination on the basis of sex means discrimination on the basis of being a male or female. Now, expanding the definition to include gender identity turns Title IX on its head. The entire point, I'm quoting the judge now,

[00:48:23] the entire point of Title IX is to prevent discrimination based on sex. Throwing gender identity into the mix eviscerates the statute and renders it largely meaningless. End of quote. So that's the win, Sam. Basically, boys playing in girls' sports being forced upon schools that accept government money.

[00:48:50] If this decision stands, then basically that oppression will not be pushed upon us. So that's the good news, Sam. Amen. Love it. Need more of it. And the last line basically says this. You know, we look forward to working with the incoming Trump administration to further protect children from harmful queer ideology in the classroom

[00:49:19] and to prevent the medical abuse of children that suffer from gender transphoria. Anyway, the bottom line is we're just saying, hey, let's just abolish the education department and start there, huh? Anyway, we got a solution for health. Lowell? Yeah, this is kind of a fun article. Out of Japan, there's a professor emeritus at a university in Tokyo who's talking about a protocol for health and longevity, right?

[00:49:46] So if you want to be healthy and you want to live a good, long life, then listen up. He calls it the 110, 100, 1000, 10,000 protocol for health and longevity. So what do those numbers mean? Well, basically, you read one piece of writing. This is a daily basis, a daily regimen. The one stands for reading one piece of writing. You laugh 10 times. You breathe deeply 100 times.

[00:50:15] You write 1,000 words. And you walk 10,000 steps. That's the regimen. Read something every day. Laugh out loud 10 times every day. Breathe deeply 100 times every day. Write 1,000 words every day. And then walk 10,000 steps every day, right? So this is a fun regimen. So what do you mean? Well, to read a piece of writing means at least read at least one article every day.

[00:50:43] It could be a newspaper article, a magazine article, a book that you're reading, whatever, because this improves the thinking process. It improves cognitive function. Several parts of the brain are actively involved when you read. And this includes the prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for thinking and memory. What about the next step? You laugh 10 times out loud.

[00:51:06] A Japanese survey of more than 20,000 older people found that those who laugh more frequently every day had lower rates of cardiovascular disease. Laughter boosts immunity and inhibits infection. Laughter increases endorphins in the brain, which makes you feel happier. What about deep breathing 100 times? Deep breaths every day.

[00:51:31] So deep breathing expands every corner of the lungs and brings ample oxygen into the blood, providing sufficient oxygen to the whole body. Deep breathing can also increase the activity of parasympathetic nerves, bring mental stability, lower blood pressure, and slow the heartbeat, reducing the burden on the cardiovascular system. And so deep breathing.

[00:51:58] Dr. Jensen, let me just digress briefly from your article and say that Dr. Jensen recommends deep breathing as well. And so I've known this for a long time. And you can deep breathe while you walk. And so he takes in three breaths. I'm sorry, he takes in one breath over three steps. And then you hold it for three or four steps. And then he exhales for three or four steps. And that forces you to breathe deeply during the inhale.

[00:52:27] You hold your breath for a few seconds. And then you exhale over a number of seconds slowly. And that's a great, great, great exercise. Writing, a thousand words every day. This is the fourth part of the regimen. Cognitive function can be significantly improved through writing. And its effect can be a worthwhile personal experience as well. I mean, you can write in your journal. You can write an article. You can write letter to your congressman. You can write a letter to a beloved family member.

[00:52:58] That's what writing will do for you. It improves cognitive function. Finally, you walk 10,000 steps. And if that's too hard, then at least walk 5,000. But in all cases, try to go outside and walk as much as possible. The Japan Medical Association points out that the feet are called the second heart. And walking helps to promote the return of blood from the legs to the heart. And walking not only helps prevent and improve metabolic syndrome, but also activates the brain,

[00:53:26] enhances memory, and helps to prevent osteoporosis. And, folks, it's never too late to start this regimen. You read, laugh, breathe, write, and walk. That's the regimen, Sam. 110, 100, 1,000, and 10,000. It's all yours, baby. And you write articles relating to the culture war. And you stand on the right side of the culture war. And you focus on God, family, and country. And protecting life, liberty, and property. And then you talk. You write. You stand up. You get involved.

[00:53:56] You run for office. You do all these different things that can promote the sacred cause of liberty. After all, that's what great health is all about. Liberty. Freedom. To move about. To freely associate. To love your God. And to teach your family to do the same. This is the one and only Solutions Oriented Liberty Roundtable Live. Lowell Nelson, Campaign for Liberty.org. Thank you so much, sir. My pleasure, Sam. It's always good to be with you.

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