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[00:01:17] This hour, we have Steve Stockman with us.
[00:01:19] Former congressman, dear friend, liberty-loving, freedom fighter.
[00:01:25] You want to check out his work?
[00:01:27] At Steve Works, the number four, the letter U.
[00:01:30] Steve Works for you.
[00:01:32] Is how you can get a hold of him on, what, X now? Is that what you call it?
[00:01:34] There you go.
[00:01:36] And you can keep up with what he's doing, because, man, he's doing a tremendous work,
[00:01:40] even after being in Congress two times.
[00:01:42] Steve Stockman has the unique experience of being in Congress twice, but several years apart.
[00:01:49] Like a little height, almost like Donald Trump's example.
[00:01:52] Welcome to the broadcast, Steve.
[00:01:55] Thank you.
[00:01:56] By the way, that's Y-O-U, not just the letter U.
[00:01:58] Oh, Y-O-U. Got it.
[00:02:00] And then the number four.
[00:02:02] So it's Steve Works, the number four, and then Y-O-U.
[00:02:05] And that's...
[00:02:06] Got it.
[00:02:07] At sign, Steve Works for you.
[00:02:09] The number four.
[00:02:10] And then Y-O-U. Got it.
[00:02:13] I actually didn't do that.
[00:02:15] That was something that my friends put together for me, and I appreciate it.
[00:02:21] Steve Works for you.
[00:02:24] All right.
[00:02:25] All right.
[00:02:25] So tell me, how was it being in Congress, leaving, coming back?
[00:02:31] Because that's really what Donald's going to be experiencing, right?
[00:02:35] Yeah.
[00:02:36] The reason I left is right after I got elected the first time, my mother died.
[00:02:41] And literally, I got sworn in.
[00:02:43] And four weeks later, she passed away.
[00:02:45] And I made a commitment.
[00:02:47] If my father got ill, I would take care of him.
[00:02:51] And so I did that.
[00:02:53] And he took ill, and he had dementia.
[00:02:58] And I didn't know.
[00:02:59] That's a horrible disease, by the way.
[00:03:00] Anybody dealing with that knows it's horrible.
[00:03:02] Reagan had it, obviously.
[00:03:04] And I thought it would just be a number of months, and it turned out to be a long time,
[00:03:11] quite a few years, where they slowly, gradually disappear.
[00:03:16] And it's quite sad.
[00:03:17] And it's very, very emotionally draining.
[00:03:20] And so that's what happened in intervening years.
[00:03:23] And I decided to run again.
[00:03:24] And Sam, they said I couldn't win.
[00:03:26] And the papers declared, he has no chance of winning.
[00:03:29] He has no campaign manager.
[00:03:32] He's coming to race late, blah, blah, blah.
[00:03:34] And then, of course, because of the good people and the patriotic people, rallied to my side.
[00:03:41] And we won.
[00:03:42] And we defeated a lot of other people.
[00:03:44] Yeah, against the typical mainstream press propaganda.
[00:03:47] They didn't want you to win, so they manipulate things to try to prevent you from winning.
[00:03:51] Kind of a, I don't know, maybe an indirect way of election fraud, you might say, huh?
[00:03:57] It is election fraud.
[00:03:58] When they try to manipulate people, and oftentimes they do.
[00:04:01] I never understood how a nonprofit newspaper can endorse.
[00:04:06] We worked with a newspaper, and we got taken to federal court, and that's one reason why I was in prison.
[00:04:13] So if a conservative creates a newspaper, endorses, you go to prison.
[00:04:17] But if a liberal does it, you're cheered.
[00:04:20] So it really is, like everybody's talking about, it is really a double standard in so many levels.
[00:04:26] But they particularly hated me because I went after, I was the first one to call for the impeachment of Obama.
[00:04:31] And as you saw, the policies of Obama are still in place.
[00:04:34] He released a bunch of people from Gitmo.
[00:04:38] Biden doesn't have the ability to even think, let alone do something like that.
[00:04:42] And that's a continuation of Obama's desire to release prisoners that are terrorists.
[00:04:47] And we're seeing it time and time again.
[00:04:49] And there should be an outcry of what's going on right now with this undermining Trump.
[00:04:57] I mean, taking 200, what is it, 240 million acres off of the oil thing as Trump declared he wanted to drill.
[00:05:04] And so they're trying to do everything to undermine him before he gets into office.
[00:05:08] And it's horrible.
[00:05:11] All right.
[00:05:12] Let's talk a little bit about this because right now there's a Proud Boys leader.
[00:05:19] I guess the ex-Proud Boys leader, Enrique Terrio, or Terro, Terrio, I guess is how you say it,
[00:05:28] is asking for a pardon.
[00:05:31] Think he should get pardoned?
[00:05:33] Yeah, I think he should.
[00:05:35] He's, first of all, they call him a white supremacist and he's not even white.
[00:05:40] Let me just stop you there for a minute, Steve.
[00:05:42] How on earth is that?
[00:05:44] In America, I mean, how do you call this guy a white supremacist when he's not white?
[00:05:48] I mean, I don't even understand that.
[00:05:50] He got convicted, by the way.
[00:05:52] He got convicted for January 6th and he wasn't even there.
[00:05:57] Right.
[00:05:58] That's what I'm saying is this guy needs to be pardoned big time.
[00:06:01] And Trump needs to double down and say, you guys say this is a racist discussion.
[00:06:05] He's not white.
[00:06:07] Secondly, he wasn't there.
[00:06:09] He didn't go into the Capitol.
[00:06:10] He wasn't even there.
[00:06:12] So like or dislike the Proud Boys view or whatever else, that's irrelevant.
[00:06:16] The fact is he has not been proven guilty of anything, right?
[00:06:21] Yeah.
[00:06:21] Yeah.
[00:06:21] In fact, they use they use his example of why they say there was guns at the rally because he had a gun at his house and he wasn't there.
[00:06:30] And you hear the left.
[00:06:32] He's allowed to have a gun at his house.
[00:06:34] This is America.
[00:06:35] Well, apparently, apparently under the left, if you're conservative of any kind or you love your country, you're not allowed to have a gun.
[00:06:41] You don't allow to have rights, which everybody else has.
[00:06:44] You're different.
[00:06:46] You've got to be treated.
[00:06:47] And this is the thing that they're upset now with Facebook doing community notes, taking a page out of the X page, you know, Elon's efforts to stop censorship.
[00:07:00] And they're replicating this.
[00:07:03] And the left is going nuts.
[00:07:05] They're saying, oh, this is horrible, you know, free speech.
[00:07:08] And, of course, you know, in England and Canada, they're really stepping on free speech.
[00:07:14] And America's the last bastion.
[00:07:16] If we lose America, Sam, we lose it all.
[00:07:20] Amen.
[00:07:21] There's no question about it.
[00:07:22] So now Trudeau's being forced to step down.
[00:07:24] Donald joking that Trudeau could be the next mayor of the 51st state.
[00:07:30] How much of that's hyperbole versus how much do you think they really want Canada to join the United States?
[00:07:35] I think he was tweaking him.
[00:07:37] He likes to tweet people like that.
[00:07:39] He's trolling them.
[00:07:41] And I think it was quite funny.
[00:07:43] When Trump did that, people don't realize Trump clearly has a sense of humor.
[00:07:48] I mean, that was hilarious.
[00:07:49] Well, on one hand, on the other hand, back in the George Bush days, they wanted to create the North American Union,
[00:07:53] which was the United States, Mexico, and Canada all working together.
[00:07:57] And so, you know, if you just annex Canada, you've got one of those three out of the way, right?
[00:08:02] So maybe it's not so much hyperbole.
[00:08:05] But I like cutting Canada in two because the right half would be very far left.
[00:08:10] And the left half, you know, very much conservative.
[00:08:12] Yeah, you'd give that to France, wouldn't you?
[00:08:14] Pardon?
[00:08:15] Yeah.
[00:08:16] You'd give that to France.
[00:08:17] That's right.
[00:08:18] Well, as you know, Quebec, they only speak French there in Quebec.
[00:08:22] Right.
[00:08:23] That's what I'm saying.
[00:08:24] It's very interesting.
[00:08:26] What about Greenland?
[00:08:28] Don Jr.
[00:08:29] Right now is headed to Greenland.
[00:08:31] They say because we need to, you know, buy Greenland because it's the national security issue.
[00:08:36] How real do you think that is?
[00:08:37] Don Jr.
[00:08:39] Literally going to Greenland today?
[00:08:40] Well, this is not the first time.
[00:08:43] People forget.
[00:08:44] We talked to and should have pursued it more strongly during World War II that we should have really pushed for ownership for that while.
[00:08:54] I mean, it's a territory of Denmark, but there's very few people living on what essentially is an island.
[00:09:02] And it would be the Chinese are trying to get control of it, just like they try to get control of Iceland.
[00:09:10] And we're in control of the Panama Canal, you mean?
[00:09:12] Yes, they do.
[00:09:14] They're both ends.
[00:09:15] And so what Trump's doing, he's circumventing the Chinese and trying to prevent more strategic threats to the United States.
[00:09:23] And I think it's a smart move.
[00:09:24] The Danish are so stupid in that when it comes to global war, they're going to be begging us to help them like they did in World War II.
[00:09:32] And they would be smart to look ahead, not play checkers, but play chess and realize strategically it'd be very smart to set up a base there.
[00:09:41] And in fact, unfortunately, one of the things that the British did was give away a very important island in the Atlantic.
[00:09:48] And now the Chinese are going to move in it.
[00:09:50] So it gives you the Chinese an Atlantic base, which is alarming.
[00:09:54] It is hugely alarming.
[00:09:57] And there was a big, you know, what are they called?
[00:09:59] I think it's the Monroe Doctrine or whatever.
[00:10:01] Hey, we don't want the communism to spread to our hemisphere, right?
[00:10:05] Right.
[00:10:06] And the Chinese are very heavily involved in Venezuela.
[00:10:10] So are the Iranians.
[00:10:13] This flooding of terrorism, of gangs into our country is part and parcel of, you know, a plan of the Marxists to undermine America.
[00:10:24] And we can deny it.
[00:10:25] It's there in front of you.
[00:10:27] I mean, we saw the gangs, the Venezuelan gangs coming in here.
[00:10:32] And if they mocked.
[00:10:33] All right.
[00:10:33] Crunch time.
[00:10:34] I want you to think about this and answer this right after the pause.
[00:10:37] Steve Stockman with me, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:10:38] Former congressman doing a phenomenal job.
[00:10:42] Steve works for you.
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[00:10:47] Check out his handle all over the Internet.
[00:10:50] The question is, will we get Greenland?
[00:10:52] Will we take back the canal?
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[00:13:04] Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:13:06] Former Congressman Steve Stockman with me.
[00:13:08] So, Steve, do you think that we will buy Greenland?
[00:13:12] Do you think we will annex Canada?
[00:13:15] Do you think, what do you think is going to happen with all this stuff?
[00:13:17] When we take back the Panama Canal, these are real issues that, you know, when you hear them in their totality, you go,
[00:13:23] whoa, Trump's getting crazy.
[00:13:24] However, these discussions and national securities at stake,
[00:13:28] the Monroe Doctrine being kind of core among it all,
[00:13:31] these discussions have been happening for a long time.
[00:13:33] The American people might not be, as you wisely pointed out,
[00:13:36] privy to this, thinking, oh my gosh, this is all new.
[00:13:38] No, it's not.
[00:13:39] These conversations have been going on forever.
[00:13:41] The question is, will we really get anything done here this time?
[00:13:45] Well, it's kind of amazing, the very person that caused to turn Iran into a terrorist state
[00:13:50] and to give away the Panama Canal is Jimmy Carter.
[00:13:53] Yeah, and if you listen to his eulogies, you'd think he was, you know, a second coming.
[00:13:58] He was a horrible president.
[00:13:59] And I think he lived long enough to see that he was no longer as horrible as president in the United States,
[00:14:05] if that's proper terminology, that Biden succeeded.
[00:14:09] Yeah, he was horrible.
[00:14:10] Barack was worse.
[00:14:12] And Biden was even worse.
[00:14:14] Yeah, correct.
[00:14:16] So it's really horrible what the foundation that Carter laid for us.
[00:14:22] I mean, we have so much terrorism because of what he did in Iran.
[00:14:26] He overthrew the Shah.
[00:14:27] He was very deliberate about it.
[00:14:29] And that was in part because Rosalind Carter didn't like Iran.
[00:14:33] And so, and then the policies are giving the Panama Canal away.
[00:14:38] And then now China controls both ends and controls the flow and the charges.
[00:14:44] And, of course, America's getting overcharged.
[00:14:46] And Trump's right when he says we're getting ripped off.
[00:14:50] We are a nation that's a very forgiving nation.
[00:14:54] And we've done a lot in this world.
[00:14:56] And the fact is, is that there's evil out there.
[00:14:59] And they want to end the United States the way we know it.
[00:15:03] And it came pretty close.
[00:15:04] It won the election.
[00:15:07] And we, I think, Sam, you'd be there to be prosecuting you too.
[00:15:11] You'd be, you know, taken off the air and probably thrown in the jail.
[00:15:15] Oh, there's no question.
[00:15:16] No doubt about it.
[00:15:17] Yeah.
[00:15:18] I have no illusions that that's not true.
[00:15:20] They've already reported me to Congress twice.
[00:15:22] Yeah.
[00:15:23] Me and my dear friend James Edwards basically claiming we're the nexus.
[00:15:27] Think about that word.
[00:15:28] The Southern Property Law Center uses the word nexus for me and James Edwards
[00:15:32] saying we're the nexus of hate and anti-government in America.
[00:15:36] And it's been put on the congressional record twice.
[00:15:38] I'm the guy that has a website called callforcivility.com, Steve.
[00:15:44] Well, yeah, but you should take that Southern Poverty Laws thing and frame it and put it on your wall.
[00:15:48] Because they're disgusting people.
[00:15:51] And, you know, you're known by your enemies.
[00:15:53] I was put on their list in the 90s.
[00:15:56] And I had no idea who they were.
[00:15:58] And they are a criminal organization that gets their funding.
[00:16:02] And by and large, the media, the leftist media, including all the mainstream media,
[00:16:08] gets their cues from them.
[00:16:09] And they had a long history of persecuting conservatives.
[00:16:13] They're really bad.
[00:16:14] Our friend Zodiades, who was put in prison by and large by the Southern Poverty Centers,
[00:16:20] blatant disinformation.
[00:16:23] And he was the number one mailer against Obama.
[00:16:26] And so Obama took him out.
[00:16:28] But one of the things you and I talked about is I'm D.C.
[00:16:32] is I'm trying to get a pardon for myself.
[00:16:35] And I know you have a lot of listeners that have connections and support.
[00:16:40] And if they can direct message me on X or Twitter or whatever you want to call it
[00:16:45] and see if they have any contacts with the president, that would be wonderful.
[00:16:50] We need a pardon because we're still being pursued.
[00:16:54] So we want to talk about that.
[00:16:56] So you didn't get a pardon the first time.
[00:16:59] But because of what?
[00:17:00] COVID you got let out?
[00:17:01] Is that right?
[00:17:02] No, no.
[00:17:03] I got a commutation from the president, which I'm very grateful for.
[00:17:08] He commuted my sentence.
[00:17:12] Ironically, they convicted me of 283 years.
[00:17:15] They did exactly what they did to Trump.
[00:17:16] They stacked the charges.
[00:17:18] In fact, the same person went after me, Jack Smith.
[00:17:21] So the guy that went after Trump, had people paid attention to what they did to me,
[00:17:26] I don't think Trump would have been charged because it was really outrageous what Jack Smith has done.
[00:17:32] He really needs to be in prison.
[00:17:34] And everything that he's done to other people should be done to him, I believe.
[00:17:38] And so anyhow, we got committed.
[00:17:40] So people understand a commuting of a sentence basically means,
[00:17:44] hey, we're going to take away a significant portion of the punishment.
[00:17:48] But it still stands as a conviction, right?
[00:17:51] Right.
[00:17:52] Well, and also stand to take you take away your voting rights, take away your gun rights.
[00:17:56] You get sued.
[00:17:57] I got sued by the IRS.
[00:17:58] I mean, it still leaves you liable for a lot of stuff.
[00:18:02] And the thing is, it was 283 years, and the judge gave me 10 years for something normally that, even if I was guilty, would be like 18 months.
[00:18:12] And it was outrageous what they did.
[00:18:18] And in fact, it was unconscionable.
[00:18:22] I mean, I went after Lois Lerner, and the judge ordered that I can't ever talk about who I went after.
[00:18:28] And they were the very people in the courtroom who were prosecuting me for me going after Lois Lerner.
[00:18:33] And the same goes for, at that time, I called for impeachment of Eric Holder and for the impeachment of Obama.
[00:18:41] And those are the people who are prosecuting me.
[00:18:44] And I was barred from communicating that.
[00:18:47] It was just a really, very bad situation.
[00:18:51] And one guy who was the key witness said, I feel I participated in a true Soviet-style trial, and I feel guilty that I have participated in it unwillingly.
[00:19:07] Because they also restricted what he could say.
[00:19:09] He wasn't allowed to give answers to the judge ordered, and he only had to say yes or no.
[00:19:14] So it was really horrible.
[00:19:15] I went to court defending a friend on the IRS charges just recently, and I was there as a character witness.
[00:19:21] And when the victim of this asked me questions, because I was a character witness for the victim, and he started asking me questions.
[00:19:35] And I tried to build a kind of a contextual understanding.
[00:19:39] Hey, this is why I think this guy is an honest person.
[00:19:41] This is why these are the experiences that I've had with him.
[00:19:44] I've known him for 30 years, and we've been through this and this.
[00:19:46] The judge literally stopped me, literally removed the jury from the room, and said, Sam, you cannot say all that.
[00:19:56] And I said, Your Honor, I swore to tell the truth, the whole truth.
[00:20:03] And he said, Sam, you don't know what that means?
[00:20:05] I don't want you telling all that.
[00:20:06] He said you don't know what the whole truth means.
[00:20:08] Yeah, you don't know what that means.
[00:20:10] I don't want you saying all that.
[00:20:12] You need to clearly answer the question, yes or no, or short answers that are to the point, and nothing more.
[00:20:18] And he then brought back in the jury.
[00:20:20] And he said, before he brought back in the jury, I'm sorry.
[00:20:22] He said, And if you don't, Sam, I'll just kick you out and hold you in contempt of court.
[00:20:26] Then he brought back in the jury, and he said, Don't listen to a single word this guy says.
[00:20:30] Dismiss everything he said.
[00:20:33] Wow.
[00:20:34] Yeah.
[00:20:34] That literally happened to be in court like two months ago.
[00:20:38] Yeah, the judge has much more power than what I think the Constitution really gave them.
[00:20:44] Well, instead of the judge having to adhere to the law, the judges believe they are the law now.
[00:20:49] That's part of the problem.
[00:20:50] So we need to not only get you not only a commuted sentence, but we need to get you a complete pardon.
[00:20:56] How come Trump didn't do that the first time?
[00:20:57] Do you know?
[00:20:59] I think it has to do with the fact that I ran against one of the highest senators in the United States, which was John Corning.
[00:21:08] And we came fairly close to defeating him.
[00:21:11] I think I would have had certain things gone a certain way.
[00:21:14] But, I mean, that's a discussion for another day.
[00:21:16] But I don't think Corning wanted me back out.
[00:21:19] And I also don't think Obama wanted me back out.
[00:21:21] I think I'm very good at campaigning, as you heard earlier, where I discussed my skills.
[00:21:28] And I think that was part of the problem.
[00:21:31] In all these prosecutions that you're seeing, the J6ers and everything, there's a lot of politics played.
[00:21:39] And it was, I mean, people remember in the summer of 2020, we had massive, like three to five hundred riots.
[00:21:47] And not a single one of those people that rioted and burnt stuff, shot cops, took over parts of Washington State.
[00:21:55] Yeah, they literally created a city within a city called Chaz at the time, right?
[00:21:59] Yeah.
[00:21:59] Yeah.
[00:22:00] And none of those people, they burnt federal billions.
[00:22:03] They even shot a cop.
[00:22:04] They literally ran the police department out of their own offices?
[00:22:08] Yeah.
[00:22:08] Burned down buildings.
[00:22:09] Three billion dollars worth of destruction.
[00:22:11] And then Black Lives Matter raised millions, if not a billion dollars.
[00:22:15] And none of it went to rebuilding the blacks that were suffering from the riots.
[00:22:19] And yet none of those people were held accountable.
[00:22:22] And in the mind of the left, there's only one riot, which had, by the way, they keep saying there was guns there.
[00:22:28] I challenge you, the only gun that was there was the one that killed Ashley Babbitt.
[00:22:33] By the way, we should need to rename it Ashley Babbitt Day because she's unarmed, basically trespassing, and got shot and murdered.
[00:22:42] Well, and you can even debate on the trespassing part because as far as I understand, if you study this, she was getting smashed and there was all these people.
[00:22:49] And she was trying to escape the crush of what was happening around her, right?
[00:22:54] Well, I'm saying even if you take the left's view that the biggest charge you could charge it with is possible trespass.
[00:23:00] And I agree with you.
[00:23:02] It wasn't even that, really, because it's the people house.
[00:23:06] Prior to time delay, which was the whip, we used to travel back and forth together.
[00:23:12] He had bodyguards, the leadership.
[00:23:14] In fact, Steve Scalise is the bodyguard, the one that saved Republicans from being murdered on a baseball field.
[00:23:21] So both of Tom DeLay's guards were murdered, and their plaque is hanging in the building, the congressional building there at Capitol Hill.
[00:23:30] And since then, the security has buttoned up.
[00:23:34] But prior to that, anybody could walk into the Capitol basically any time you wanted, really.
[00:23:39] It was quite...
[00:23:39] Yeah, in fact, Joe did back in the day and got arrested even.
[00:23:42] Yeah.
[00:23:45] It's amazing to me that they've changed the rules so much and taken away the people's house.
[00:23:50] And the thing is, they had a right to demonstrate.
[00:23:53] And I think it's wrong that they went so far.
[00:23:56] All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are advocating for a Steve Stockman pardon like nobody's business.
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[00:24:15] But ladies and gentlemen, I want to come back and talk about this pardon because you know what?
[00:24:19] Usually presidents pardon people kind of at the end of their term.
[00:24:23] How common is it at the beginning?
[00:24:26] Because Donald Trump says he's going to pardon a bunch of J6 prisoners.
[00:24:30] And I hope he does because they deserve it.
[00:24:33] Also, I hope he pardons Steve Stockman.
[00:24:35] Let's talk more with Steve about it in seconds and answer that question on your radio.
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[00:25:04] If you had any doubts about it being winter, well, think again.
[00:25:08] Temperatures this morning, international falls 14 degrees below zero.
[00:25:12] Chicago is a little warmer.
[00:25:13] Temperatures are only in the lower teens.
[00:25:15] Minneapolis, temperatures are right around zero.
[00:25:17] So very cold air across parts of the Dakotas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa.
[00:25:22] Pretty typical temperatures for a very cold air mass at the moment.
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[00:25:27] Bob Orovac, lead forecaster with the National Weather Service.
[00:25:30] A lot of cold air in place across the country.
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[00:25:53] Also at townhall.com, Congress notified by the Biden administration of a planned $8 billion weapon sale to Israel.
[00:26:03] The sale includes medium-range air-to-air missiles to help Israel defend against airborne threats,
[00:26:10] 155-millimeter projectile artillery shells for long-range targeting,
[00:26:15] Hellfire AGM-114 missiles, 500-pound bombs, and more.
[00:26:20] It would add to a record of around $18 billion in military aid that the U.S. has provided Israel since the war began more than a year ago.
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[00:30:14] Atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.
[00:30:24] Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, my guest, former Congressman Steve Stockman.
[00:30:29] I hope he becomes a congressman again, by the way.
[00:30:31] Steve Works, the number for you.
[00:30:33] Steve Works for you is the hashtag to follow him on all kinds of social.
[00:30:37] James Edwards, my dear friend, gets credit for this question, but I reiterate it.
[00:30:42] So, you know, normally presidents, you know, do the pardons at the end of their administrations and everything else, but Trump's going to kick off.
[00:30:48] Like first day, he says he's going to pardon people.
[00:30:51] That seems kind of unprecedented.
[00:30:54] What do you think?
[00:30:55] Is that a common thing or is that something that we expected?
[00:31:00] What do you think about this, Steve?
[00:31:03] I think it's great, and I think actually I propose and wrote an article on this every Friday because, you know, Christ on the cross on Friday forgave one of the prisoners that was hanging next to him and said,
[00:31:17] this day you'll be in paradise with me.
[00:31:19] I think it would be nice on Good Friday or every Friday, actually turning into Good Friday every Friday,
[00:31:25] is that the people that are inappropriately imprisoned should be pardoned.
[00:31:30] And, you know, you watch what Biden has done, really Obama-Biden.
[00:31:34] We shouldn't say Biden.
[00:31:35] I think Biden has oatmeal for, you know, brains or whatever.
[00:31:40] But the thing is that the people he's pardoned are rapists, child molesters, spies, terrorists.
[00:31:47] In fact, he just moved, what, 11 terrorists out of Gitmo.
[00:31:50] You're seeing a broad brush of pardoning evil people,
[00:31:54] and there's also a broad brush of people that are improperly held in prisons that need to be let out.
[00:32:02] People don't understand the breadth of the political persecution of people because a lot of people are persecuted,
[00:32:08] like a minister up in Dallas who didn't make a lot of news,
[00:32:12] but he ended up going to prison because he preached against Obama.
[00:32:16] And then there was another minister down that I served time with down here in South Texas that was a black man.
[00:32:24] And I think the worst thing for the left is when an African-American steps off the Democrat plantation and becomes a Republican.
[00:32:33] Yeah, how dare they, huh?
[00:32:35] Yeah, and they prosecuted him and his family.
[00:32:38] It was over the top and just outrageous what they did.
[00:32:41] Yeah, pretty soon they'll call him a white supremacist, huh?
[00:32:44] By the way, yeah, exactly.
[00:32:46] It's crazy.
[00:32:47] By the way, it's called the Public Integrity Section, and it's PIS,
[00:32:51] and they hate being called that because you referred to it as the PIS division of the DOJ,
[00:32:57] and it's very hyperpolitical.
[00:32:59] I mean, Jack Smith's wife is dear friends with Michelle Obama that made a movie together and stuff.
[00:33:05] I mean, it's just incestuous corruption.
[00:33:07] It's a real cesspool.
[00:33:09] So is it common for presidents, though, at the start of their terms?
[00:33:13] No, no, no.
[00:33:14] He's right.
[00:33:14] It's not common, is it?
[00:33:16] No, no.
[00:33:16] James is right.
[00:33:17] They do it like what Biden's doing now, all this disgusting stuff that they don't want anybody to do anything about.
[00:33:23] They do it between the election and the time they step down.
[00:33:26] But to think that the president's going to come out of the gate pardoning people who justly deserve it,
[00:33:30] highlighting the criminality that you speak of so well and the incestuous abuse going on and stuff like that is refreshing, Steve.
[00:33:37] Oh, it's wonderful.
[00:33:39] I just hope he does it.
[00:33:40] I know he's already got people in government that are trying to dissuade him from doing it,
[00:33:46] and some of them are our friends that are trying to dissuade him, but I think it's absolutely wrong.
[00:33:52] They all need to be pardoned.
[00:33:54] But the thing that someone, I'm trying to remember, the gentleman that was a doctor who got prosecuted,
[00:33:59] he was a really great guy, and he pointed out something the other day which I found astounding.
[00:34:03] He said, all those people you see breaking the windows, they're all dressed in black.
[00:34:07] They didn't arrest a single one of those guys.
[00:34:09] And I don't know, historically, you look at the people dressed in black, they're in TIFA.
[00:34:13] But I think this was a large part between the FBI who was there and knew of all this stuff going on,
[00:34:20] because they had a bunch of people now admittedly in that crowd that were working for them.
[00:34:26] And I think that they, in part, were instigators in this, just like they did in Michigan,
[00:34:32] where they had more FBI agents than they did people perpetrating the crime,
[00:34:37] and the FBI agents were encouraging them to do the crime.
[00:34:40] Well, the government admits that 26 FBI agents were there.
[00:34:45] Only a couple of them were supposed to be there on, quote, official business.
[00:34:48] The rest attended on their own, but they went into unauthorized spaces.
[00:34:52] They did all kinds of different things, but nobody's prosecuted.
[00:34:55] But we never got what they were there to do or what they did when they were there, number one.
[00:34:59] And number two, what about all the other government agencies?
[00:35:02] So what about Justice Department personnel or Homeland Security personnel or CIA personnel?
[00:35:08] We don't know how many government officials were there or government employees were there.
[00:35:13] We just have this limited FBI slice, is all we know.
[00:35:16] Now, is Cash Patel going to get to the bottom of this, you think?
[00:35:19] Well, you know who's definitely afraid of Cash Patel is every one of those guys.
[00:35:25] Cash is an awesome guy, and I can't praise him more.
[00:35:29] I don't know if you know this, but me and Sheriff Richard Mack officially in writing issued a press release endorsing Cash Patel.
[00:35:35] Well, that's wonderful.
[00:35:37] But I think he's got a pretty spotless record.
[00:35:42] In fact, his record's really impressive.
[00:35:44] I think he's going to have, even though his record's perfect, they're going to give him a hard time.
[00:35:49] But man, once he gets in there, I hope he kicks butt.
[00:35:53] I really do.
[00:35:53] One guy that I wish they would pick in the DOJ is, oh man, it was his name, Jeff.
[00:35:59] They went after him.
[00:36:00] He's a former DOJ.
[00:36:01] His name just slipped me.
[00:36:03] But he was a former DOJ official, and he needs to be back in there because he knows where all the corruption is.
[00:36:10] They turned on him.
[00:36:11] He was a DOJ official that didn't walk the walk, the political walk, and they tried to prosecute him.
[00:36:16] I think they're still prosecuting him, I believe.
[00:36:19] He needs to be appointed in the DOJ.
[00:36:22] All right.
[00:36:22] The inauguration's coming up in, what, 13 days, I guess?
[00:36:27] Yep.
[00:36:28] And a lot of people are very concerned I'm one of them.
[00:36:33] You know, I went to the 2016 inauguration.
[00:36:36] I was at the Republican convention before that.
[00:36:40] CNN was bringing me water.
[00:36:41] I mean, I literally had a booth right across from CNN.
[00:36:44] Literally, they were.
[00:36:46] CNN fed me breakfast and gave me water and everything.
[00:36:48] I got a photo of me sitting in the CNN booth at like one of their news guys and stuff like that.
[00:36:53] Because I went up to the CNN guys.
[00:36:54] They were actually really nice.
[00:36:55] And I went up in there and I'm like, hey, man, your booth is empty.
[00:36:57] Can I go in there and take a picture?
[00:36:58] They're like, sure.
[00:36:59] So I cruised in there and I'm sitting at the CNN desk, man.
[00:37:02] Now, I'd never worked for CNN, but the point was funny.
[00:37:05] Anyway, I digress except to say I've been there, done that.
[00:37:08] But the concern now, Steve, is this.
[00:37:13] Since his victory in November, Trump's allies have raised well over $200 million
[00:37:20] through a bunch of groups that will do a bunch of things.
[00:37:22] One, take care of the inauguration, his political operation, and eventually his, quote, presidential library.
[00:37:29] Now, I'm concerned that it's been too quiet on the home front.
[00:37:35] Right?
[00:37:36] They didn't disrupt January the 6th.
[00:37:38] They even made this big old to-do about Kamala humbly accepting, you know, Democrats accept the truth.
[00:37:44] And, okay, peaceful transfer of power.
[00:37:46] Or I am not so sure when it comes to inauguration day if it's going to be peaceful.
[00:37:51] General Flynn, myself, Sheriff Richard Mack, and others are starting to kind of say, maybe we ought to not have a big old pomp event.
[00:37:56] Maybe we ought to have a humble George Washington-esque kind of event instead.
[00:38:00] What do you say?
[00:38:03] I think you have justification for that.
[00:38:05] People forget in 2016 we did have riots.
[00:38:10] And as you know, you were there.
[00:38:11] We had quite a bit of-
[00:38:12] Oh, yeah, they had women running around in vagina hats everywhere.
[00:38:15] I tried to interview one of them, and she saw me and chickened out.
[00:38:17] But anyway, yeah.
[00:38:18] Well, and then afterwards you had Madonna declaring that she wants to blow up the White House.
[00:38:23] None of that ever-
[00:38:24] I mean, could you imagine if Trump said he wanted to do that?
[00:38:26] I mean, Trump said go peacefully and orderly, and yet you have Madonna saying she wants to do things that are horrible.
[00:38:34] And never everybody on their side has ever held accountable.
[00:38:39] Yeah, she's the material girl.
[00:38:40] It's okay.
[00:38:41] Yeah, and then what was the other woman, the ugly comedian, held up the severed head of Trump, and she thought that was supposed to be humorous?
[00:38:49] I think she worked for CNN.
[00:38:50] Your old workplace.
[00:38:55] Yeah, it's just so funny, though.
[00:38:56] I got this photo where I'm in CNN and everything.
[00:38:58] It's just quite comical.
[00:39:00] But really, though, I think maybe a humble inauguration would be smart.
[00:39:04] I don't know that it makes sense to have a big old pomp and whatever.
[00:39:07] Most of us who would like to be there can't really get in, even if I got tickets tomorrow.
[00:39:11] Places to stay are super expensive.
[00:39:13] The travel's just crazy.
[00:39:16] Anyway, all I'm saying is, what if Donald came back and he said,
[00:39:20] Listen, we're going to have a super simple inauguration.
[00:39:23] You know what?
[00:39:24] We don't want a bunch of people attending.
[00:39:26] And we're going to focus on the pardons on January the 6th.
[00:39:30] We're going to focus on the first day in action, reversing a lot of Joe's executive orders.
[00:39:35] We're going to have this humble but yet effective transition.
[00:39:39] We're going to do it right.
[00:39:40] And I don't know.
[00:39:42] I'm urging President Trump to do that.
[00:39:44] I doubt he'll listen.
[00:39:44] But it's worthy of a cause because he could focus on pardoning the Steve Stockmans, focusing on pardoning the January 6th folks, pardoning people who deserve it.
[00:39:54] There's lots of them.
[00:39:55] A lot of pro-life people are in jail right now that need to be pardoned as well.
[00:39:58] So let's focus on the pardons and the innocent until proven guilty kind of discussions.
[00:40:05] And on this, hey, the Justice Department, the FBI, all these organizations, departments of government have been weaponized against the people.
[00:40:13] And it stops today.
[00:40:14] And we're going to lead by a humble inauguration led by effective leadership.
[00:40:20] I don't know.
[00:40:21] I'm advocating for this.
[00:40:23] Well, I got to tell you some concern.
[00:40:25] Well, first of all, I want to say that on the 19th, Trump's having this real big rally for him.
[00:40:29] And he's going to be there.
[00:40:31] And anybody can go to it from what I understand.
[00:40:33] It's like people's rally.
[00:41:02] Great.
[00:41:04] It was there, the prior administration.
[00:41:06] In fact, there was probably a lot of...
[00:41:07] Yeah, look what they did last time, to your point.
[00:41:12] Yeah, we need to clean the house.
[00:41:16] And I'm really alarmed that he's not going to do that, from what I understand.
[00:41:22] Well, Trump's bringing in a lot of people from his previous administration and some people that I have serious concerns about, too.
[00:41:27] I mean, there's a lot of good people he's put in place.
[00:41:30] But there's a lot of concern.
[00:41:31] I think we ought to have Steve Stockman be Speaker of the House.
[00:41:33] But no, we've got this clown that betrayed us just like McCarthy did.
[00:41:36] Johnson, I mean, this guy's not for real, is he?
[00:41:39] He was ready to pass the $15,000 paid spend bill.
[00:41:43] Well, what was in it was even worse.
[00:41:46] I was really disappointed.
[00:41:46] They had a lot of things in there that continued funding things that the left wanted.
[00:41:52] And why would you put that in there?
[00:41:54] It tied the hands of Trump, this funding for these left-wing groups and stuff.
[00:42:00] It's just a horrible mistake.
[00:42:02] I really am quite surprised that, you know, 15 – but I'm glad it went from, what, 1,500 pages to 160 pages, which is really great.
[00:42:13] It's a start, but I just – I don't know why you put the guy in place that did that, right?
[00:42:19] Yeah.
[00:42:19] Well, the people rose up, so that's what – you know, we need to keep rising up when something like that happens.
[00:42:26] So, you know, there's going to be a lot of stuff we're going to get mad at Trump for doing, and we've got to keep his feet to the fire.
[00:42:32] Anyway, so we openly call for a humble, downsized inauguration because national security is at stake.
[00:42:41] And I'm telling you right now, it's been too peaceful.
[00:42:43] It's been too quiet.
[00:42:44] They've taken this laying down too – I don't know what words to use, but I'm afraid that it's going to change.
[00:42:54] Antifa's cranking up and organizing and everything else, and I'm just afraid it's the calm before the storm.
[00:42:58] And I hate to say that, but you've literally got, what, 10 million illegals in the country, many of them violent and crazy, that are under threat of deportation.
[00:43:07] You've got literally the Democrats that have had their heads handed to them, not literally but figuratively, politically speaking.
[00:43:13] And they're all just peaceful and it's like, oh, no problem.
[00:43:16] And I don't know that it'll last, Steve.
[00:43:19] And I'm afraid at the inauguration they might uncork.
[00:43:25] And I want to prevent that.
[00:43:26] I want peace.
[00:43:28] What do you say?
[00:43:29] I think you're right.
[00:43:30] I think we need to be alert.
[00:43:31] And I think we need to be alert.
[00:43:33] And it does concern me.
[00:43:35] And I don't know – what is the allowed?
[00:43:39] We don't know what we don't know.
[00:43:42] And it is very concerning.
[00:43:44] I mean, think about how many people were let in here into our nation that have terrorist backgrounds.
[00:43:50] And you can't let in millions and millions of people expect everyone to be holier than thou.
[00:43:55] And the number of Chinese that came in here, that really concerns me.
[00:43:59] And they're all military age.
[00:44:00] It's really not good.
[00:44:03] I agree with you.
[00:44:04] Well, we've had these assassination attempts on the president's life.
[00:44:07] You had two of them that were legitimate.
[00:44:08] One of them was a false claim by an out-of-control sheriff in California.
[00:44:12] And we've got to somehow say, wait a minute, how can we ensure that it goes peaceful?
[00:44:17] Last time Trump literally said, hey, let's have the National Guard help and everything else,
[00:44:22] he was flat-out disobeyed when he called for strengthening the ability to keep things safe.
[00:44:28] He was literally disobeyed, Steve.
[00:44:30] And Nancy Pelosi lied about it.
[00:44:33] Nancy Pelosi, people don't realize that.
[00:44:35] That's her police force.
[00:44:37] And Trump can't.
[00:44:40] There's separation of powers.
[00:44:41] Trump can't come in there and say, oh, well, I'm going to issue the National Guard on top of the Congress.
[00:44:46] They would call that a coup if he had done that.
[00:44:49] And he had to have her permission.
[00:44:52] And he gave permission for the National Guard to be used.
[00:44:55] And he offered it.
[00:44:56] So they're such a dishonest people to portray it differently.
[00:45:02] It is.
[00:45:03] It is.
[00:45:04] That whole thing should have been laid at the feet of Nancy Pelosi.
[00:45:07] And they destroyed documents.
[00:45:09] I heard one of these liberal shows that they didn't destroy documents.
[00:45:12] Yes, they did.
[00:45:14] And why are they preemptively?
[00:45:16] Yeah.
[00:45:16] Why are they preemptively parting some of these people?
[00:45:20] In fact, they did nothing wrong.
[00:45:22] That's what they always say about us.
[00:45:24] Well, a lot of these people are resigning, too, in hopes that they won't go after them.
[00:45:28] They'll just be like, oh, well, leave them alone.
[00:45:29] Now they're out.
[00:45:30] They're, you know, let bygones be bygones.
[00:45:33] Who wants to open a coral with a past?
[00:45:34] And they're hoping that'll happen.
[00:45:36] The question is, will we have accountability for any of these things or not?
[00:45:40] I don't know.
[00:45:42] I mean, that's a great question.
[00:45:43] I don't know.
[00:45:44] But the first step is getting rid of the people there that instigate it.
[00:45:48] I never understood why he kept Rubenstein in there, who tried to throw him in prison.
[00:45:54] He kept him in there and actually determined who got pardoned.
[00:45:57] So there's some decisions.
[00:45:59] I don't know.
[00:46:00] They betray him as a dictator, but he's not making a very good dictator.
[00:46:04] I mean, he didn't get his way on several things already about extending the debt and all that.
[00:46:09] Well, if he was really a dictator, he just would have stayed in office the first time and told him to fly a tiger.
[00:46:13] That's right.
[00:46:13] Right?
[00:46:14] I mean, come on.
[00:46:15] Exactly.
[00:46:16] But I'm worried that he's not going to get rid of these people.
[00:46:18] I just, I'm so alarmed by that.
[00:46:20] It's like, how could you know?
[00:46:22] 100%.
[00:46:23] Right.
[00:46:24] So you're in Washington, D.C. right now looking for a pardon.
[00:46:27] Right.
[00:46:27] Do you have opportunities to really sit down with somebody to make this happen?
[00:46:31] I hope so.
[00:46:32] I haven't.
[00:46:34] You know, we got it.
[00:46:36] I'm going to try to do that.
[00:46:37] And everything I can do to get a pardon, I'll do.
[00:46:42] And with your good, with your good graces and your, your listeners, I'll achieve that.
[00:46:49] So I very appreciate you putting me on the air today.
[00:46:54] We'll put you on the air anytime, sir.
[00:46:56] We believe you've been completely wronged.
[00:46:57] And one of the interesting things is it's common knowledge now that people are being wronged by the administration, meaning Joe and clowns.
[00:47:04] Yeah.
[00:47:05] You were kind of the tip of the spear.
[00:47:06] You were attacked early on.
[00:47:08] Yeah, it's been, believe it or not, it's been 12 years.
[00:47:12] And people go, why don't you do this and do that?
[00:47:14] And I said, well, you know, I'm not Elon Musk.
[00:47:16] I don't have unlimited money.
[00:47:17] I'm not Trump where Trump has billions of dollars.
[00:47:20] We're in a small house and we're just, we're like the people you're listening, they're listeners.
[00:47:27] We just, you know, took a chance to run for office and worked real hard and won.
[00:47:32] And the government has unlimited money and unlimited lawyers.
[00:47:35] And there's a book called Three Felonies a Day, which documents that every American commits three felonies a day.
[00:47:44] And frankly, anybody can be, you know, they're throwing these people in there praying in front of an abortion clinic.
[00:47:49] It's just alarming the ability of the state.
[00:47:53] You know, what's the old attitude?
[00:47:54] Anything, a state that can do anything for you can do anything to you.
[00:47:58] And we're pretty much at that level.
[00:48:02] Quite alarming.
[00:48:03] All right.
[00:48:03] Anyway, I'm openly calling for a humble inauguration for Donald Trump because I just feel like, hey, we've got to really make sure that nothing bad happens.
[00:48:12] What we cannot have is a stain on the very day he takes office that would derail everything he plans and hopes for.
[00:48:20] If we're not very careful and that happens, it could literally take, well, Congress was supposed to look at election integrity.
[00:48:26] They never did last time.
[00:48:30] Just imagine if we changed the trajectory with something crazy of all that Trump is planning.
[00:48:34] We cannot let that happen, Steve.
[00:48:37] Yeah, I'm worried he's putting all these.
[00:48:40] I don't know if you recall this, but when Schwarzenegger was governor, he called for the same thing.
[00:48:46] He wanted one giant thing on the ballot initiative, you know, eliminating all the California union jobs.
[00:48:54] And what happened was he, by doing that, all the unions, you know, joined in opposition to the bill and people vote against it.
[00:49:06] And I'm worried that if we do these huge bills he's talking about, we're going to end up having them, you know, we're going to accidentally unite our opposition.
[00:49:16] I almost think we should break it down to, like, real quick, do a series of bills like we did for, I was in office in the 90s, contract with America.
[00:49:24] Yeah, in other words, Trump is calling for a big, beautiful bill to go ahead and make everything right.
[00:49:29] And Mike Johnson says we'll take 100 days and get it on his desk and everything else.
[00:49:33] No, no, no.
[00:49:33] I would start by first day starting to pass little bills one at a time.
[00:49:37] Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
[00:49:39] That's what we do with the contract with America.
[00:49:40] If you want to challenge one little piece, then you challenge a teeny piece, and that's it, right?
[00:49:44] Yep, and that way you get other stuff through.
[00:49:47] I mean, it's all or nothing.
[00:49:49] It's like putting it on the crap table and betting the whole thing.
[00:49:52] I think it's better the way we did it in 94, 95, really, where we voted.
[00:49:58] By the way, we literally voted so many times that first 100 days to get the contract with America passed that we slept on the floor in the house.
[00:50:06] I mean, and Tom DeLay put out food for us, and it was pretty amazing, but we got a lot of stuff passed.
[00:50:12] And that class, I might add, the first time we had a balanced budget, and we haven't done it since.
[00:50:20] So it can be done, but I don't think it can be done the way he's describing.
[00:50:24] I wish it was that way, but I think it just unites your opposition.
[00:50:30] Well, hopefully we can bend the right ears.
[00:50:32] You know, a lot of times people think no one's listening to this program, but I find out from all kinds of high places that they are,
[00:50:38] and we basically are advocating for several things.
[00:50:40] A humble inauguration.
[00:50:43] We don't want anything to go wrong.
[00:50:45] Piecemeal bills.
[00:50:45] One little teeny up-down votes.
[00:50:47] One at a time.
[00:50:47] Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
[00:50:49] If you challenge a piece of it, fine, but you don't challenge the whole thing.
[00:50:52] It's not a crapshoot at the end of the day.
[00:50:53] You can gauge things as you go along, and you can make a lot of difference in 100 days if you pass.
[00:50:59] How many bills a day could you pass if you really got after it?
[00:51:02] Any idea?
[00:51:03] No, but we did.
[00:51:05] I think we did the most that ever has been done during the 100 days of the 104th Congress,
[00:51:11] the one where Gingrich took over.
[00:51:12] I think that has to be a record.
[00:51:14] And how many was that?
[00:51:14] I don't know.
[00:51:15] Do you have any idea?
[00:51:15] I don't know, but it was a lot.
[00:51:17] It was a lot.
[00:51:18] Okay, either way, though, I mean, hey, if you passed a bunch of bills in the first 100 days,
[00:51:22] then you've got something to look to that says, hey, we've put all these things on the president's desk.
[00:51:27] We've done this.
[00:51:27] We've done this one.
[00:51:28] Otherwise, you're like, hey, we did a bunch of work, and we got this whole thing that might pass.
[00:51:35] It's all look.
[00:51:37] It's all presentation.
[00:51:39] And so they've got to do this.
[00:51:40] So we're calling for a humble inauguration.
[00:51:43] We're calling for piecemeal bills, and we're calling for Steve Stockman-Pardon.
[00:51:50] Amen, brother.
[00:51:51] I endorse all your agenda.
[00:51:55] It's always fun and great talking with your audience.
[00:51:58] And one day I'll get out to Utah and see your beautiful state.
[00:52:03] I've been there, but I haven't been there since I was a kid.
[00:52:06] We'll make it happen, my friend.
[00:52:07] I'll tell you that right now.
[00:52:08] We'll get Steve involved more with the Constitutional Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association.
[00:52:11] He can make a tremendous difference there as well.
[00:52:14] So, Steve, we appreciate you.
[00:52:16] We know you're in D.C.
[00:52:16] Go and sit down.
[00:52:18] Let me know what happens when you get back, and we'll have you on with a follow-up, okay?
[00:52:22] All right.
[00:52:22] God bless you.
[00:52:23] All right, bye-bye.
[00:52:23] There you go.
[00:52:24] Steve Stockman doing a phenomenal job, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:52:26] I'm just telling you right now, I'm so grateful for Steve's leadership.
[00:52:30] You know, we need people that have guts.
[00:52:33] We need people that stand tall.
[00:52:35] He took on Lois Lerner, paid dearly.
[00:52:38] What we should have is Steve pardoned and Lerner in prison.
[00:52:41] I'm telling you that right now.
[00:52:43] I will not back away from those kind of statements.
[00:52:46] They're true, and I stand by them.
[00:52:48] You want to learn more about Steve's incredible work?
[00:52:50] Check it out on social.
[00:52:52] At SteveWorksForYou.
[00:52:55] And that's the number four, but otherwise it's all spelled out.
[00:52:58] At SteveWorksForYou.
[00:53:00] Because he really does.
[00:53:01] He wants truth.
[00:53:03] He wants accountability.
[00:53:05] He wants integrity.
[00:53:07] He ran for Congress twice.
[00:53:09] One.
[00:53:11] Two-term congressman.
[00:53:12] And the first time, well, I should say more than two terms, but he ran separately two different times than one.
[00:53:17] They said he couldn't win the second time.
[00:53:19] That he was a has-been.
[00:53:20] He was a nobody.
[00:53:21] Boy, did he, that Steve Stockman, and Donald Trump prove them wrong.
[00:53:27] And you know what?
[00:53:28] There's some things about Trump that I'm very concerned about.
[00:53:30] I've been very clear about those on the radio.
[00:53:32] I don't hide the way I feel.
[00:53:33] I always vote principal, not people.
[00:53:36] Nevertheless, there's a lot of good about President Trump, and there's a lot of hope.
[00:53:41] And I really hope that my comments are used productively.
[00:53:44] I don't mean to attack anyone.
[00:53:46] But I hope my comments are used in a very positive way to give President Trump and his administration clear direction.
[00:53:53] For example, we endorsed Kash Patel.
[00:53:56] That needs to happen.
[00:53:57] We need to shut down and turn the FBI into a museum, as Kash points out.
[00:54:02] We need to then stand up and have a humble inauguration to make sure nothing goes wrong.
[00:54:07] And then we need to start pardoning good guys left and right.
[00:54:11] Then we need single, piecemeal, up and down, single issue bills.
[00:54:16] ASAP.
[00:54:17] We can get a lot done, people.
[00:54:19] We've got to go about it correctly, though.
[00:54:21] And that's what we're advocating for on your radio.
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