Radio Show Hour 1 – 12/13/2024
Liberty Roundtable PodcastDecember 13, 20240:54:5025.1 MB

Radio Show Hour 1 – 12/13/2024

* Guest: Dr. Scott Bradley, Founder and Chairman of the Constitution Commemoration Foundation and the author of the book and DVD/CD lecture series To Preserve the Nation. In the Tradition of the Founding Fathers - FreedomsRisingSun.com

* Weekly Q&A Webinars, Thursdays at 7pm w/ Dr. Scott Bradley.

* In A Sweeping Unconstitutional Act, Biden Commutes 1,500 Sentences.

They Claim A pardon wipes out a conviction, while a commutation leaves the guilty verdict intact but reduces some or all of the punishment.

* Exactly, What Is Presidential Clemency?

* We Talk Criminal Based Unconstitutional Blanket Preemptive Pardons!

[00:00:12] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:00:23] All right, happy to have you along my fellow Americans, Sam Bushman live on your radio.

[00:00:30] Hard-hitting news that I refuse to use, no doubt, starts now.

[00:00:33] This is my fellow Americans, this is the broadcast for Friday the 13th in the year of our Lord, 2024.

[00:00:39] This is December the 13th, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:00:42] We're gearing up for the 12 days of Christmas, I'll tell you that right now.

[00:00:45] Welcome to the broadcast.

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[00:01:02] one of the peaceful, restorative solutions we have at our fingertips.

[00:01:05] And as you know, we reject revolution unless it's a Jesus revolution.

[00:01:08] Then we're in because we follow the prince of peace.

[00:01:11] It is a freedom-loving, fantastic, faith-filled.

[00:01:14] We're taking America back one heart, one mind, one issue at a time.

[00:01:17] Friday, but it is Friday the 13th.

[00:01:19] Thank heavens we're not superstitious.

[00:01:21] I'm having a fantastic time.

[00:01:23] Hoping you are as well.

[00:01:24] Dr. Scott Bradley with me, freedomsrisingsun.com.

[00:01:27] His incredible website.

[00:01:29] He is the founder and chairman of the Constitution Commemoration Foundation.

[00:01:33] He's also the author of the lecture series and book DVD to preserve the nation.

[00:01:40] It's all available at freedomsrisingsun.com.

[00:01:42] Check that out.

[00:01:43] He's also well-known for the weekly Q&As on the Constitution.

[00:01:47] Thursdays, 7 p.m. with Dr. Scott Bradley every Thursday evening.

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[00:01:57] Dr. Bradley, welcome to the broadcast, sir.

[00:02:01] Well, thank you very much.

[00:02:02] I hope everyone's having a great day, too.

[00:02:05] I mean, you mentioned Friday the 13th and this superstition thing.

[00:02:09] I always thought that was a lucky day.

[00:02:12] I mean, I guess my birthday's on the 13th.

[00:02:15] Not today, so it's not my birthday today.

[00:02:17] So don't be, well, I guess you can send birthday wishes any time you want.

[00:02:21] But the fact of the matter is, I guess I've never found 13 to be an issue.

[00:02:28] Well, unless it was a lucky issue, maybe.

[00:02:30] I don't know.

[00:02:31] Well, there you have it.

[00:02:32] I don't know.

[00:02:33] I just know this.

[00:02:33] They always claim there's not, you know, floor 13s in elevators.

[00:02:36] And I've argued with staff about that.

[00:02:38] And they're a little confused on my argument or whatever.

[00:02:40] It goes from floor 12 to floor 14.

[00:02:42] I said, what happened to 13?

[00:02:43] And they say, well, we don't have a number 13.

[00:02:45] And I say, well, wait a minute.

[00:02:46] Are you telling me there's this big old blank space?

[00:02:48] It's like 30 feet tall in the middle of the building that's just no floor?

[00:02:51] They're like, no, no, no, no, sir.

[00:02:52] It goes from 12 to 14.

[00:02:55] And so there's no 13.

[00:02:56] And I said, but there is a 13, right?

[00:02:59] It's floor 14.

[00:03:00] You just mislabeled the thing.

[00:03:01] Unless there's an empty hole for 13.

[00:03:04] We're just playing games with words now.

[00:03:05] We just relabel something and say that it's 14 when it's really 13.

[00:03:09] You know, hey, how dumb am I?

[00:03:11] And then people just kind of glaze over and go, you're an idiot.

[00:03:13] And then I walk away and think, what on earth is happening in America?

[00:03:16] What's happening in our society?

[00:03:17] We just pretend things are true, and they're not everywhere we go, doctor.

[00:03:22] Well, you know, I guess we're a kind of a, we're faith based on little or no evidence of anything.

[00:03:29] And we continue to, I mean, look, I don't worry about them putting the 13th floor in or not one way or the other.

[00:03:37] I don't care.

[00:03:38] But what I worry about is when you facilitate.

[00:03:39] I care because it's a lie.

[00:03:41] You're not on floor 14 unless there's a hole for 13.

[00:03:44] Right, exactly.

[00:03:45] Exactly.

[00:03:46] You're on 13.

[00:03:47] But everything's a lie, Sam.

[00:03:49] I mean, stop and think about it.

[00:03:50] And if you were to walk up the stairs, where's 13?

[00:03:55] Or 14, I mean.

[00:03:56] But this sexual, made up sexual status.

[00:03:59] I mean, and I spent, I wasted a lot of time yesterday.

[00:04:03] I mean, I'm all over the board here.

[00:04:04] There's not much that I can say has any validity.

[00:04:08] I mean, the entire COVID con response was a made up lie.

[00:04:13] No, I listened yesterday.

[00:04:15] At length, I wasted a lot of time listening to a full Pentagon briefing on things.

[00:04:22] And it's like good grief if you want to lie about something or obfuscate or deflect or avoid.

[00:04:30] You hold a conference, a news conference.

[00:04:33] I mean, every single step of the way, it's just a pack of lies.

[00:04:37] Nice.

[00:04:37] So when you go up all the stairs and stuff like that, and you go up one flight of stairs and you go from 12 to 14, do you believe there's a floor 13?

[00:04:45] Of course there's a 13th floor.

[00:04:47] What is it?

[00:04:48] Isn't it the one you're on and they say it's 14?

[00:04:51] Of course it is.

[00:04:52] But, you know, you can lie to yourself about everything.

[00:04:55] Everybody does.

[00:04:56] But I tell you one thing, though.

[00:04:58] When we first got married.

[00:04:59] I hunt for the truth, my friend.

[00:05:01] Well, my wife and I first got married.

[00:05:04] I worked as a limo driver.

[00:05:06] And my wife was the hotel operator for a store.

[00:05:10] I was in a store.

[00:05:11] It was probably one of the premier hotels at the time in Salt Lake City.

[00:05:18] And they had a 13th floor.

[00:05:21] Are they going to be okay?

[00:05:23] Well, they did for all the years we were there.

[00:05:25] But I'll tell you what they did is they used it kind of as an advertising ploy.

[00:05:29] It was a really, if you can have such a thing, an upscale bar.

[00:05:34] I mean, everybody, I'm going to the 13th floor, you know, kind of thing.

[00:05:37] They had, I guess, I never went there, so I don't know even what it looked like inside.

[00:05:42] But the girls that were the waitresses made tons of money on tips.

[00:05:46] So it must have been an expensive thing.

[00:05:48] I talked to the women that worked there with their, you know, as waitresses.

[00:05:52] But it was a real upscale deal.

[00:05:54] They had a helicopter landing pad on it and everything like that.

[00:05:58] And they used it as a draw.

[00:06:00] So I have been in a hotel that had a 13th floor.

[00:06:04] So there you go.

[00:06:07] All right.

[00:06:08] Hotel 13, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:06:09] There you have it.

[00:06:10] But the reason I focus on this lie isn't really to focus on Friday the 13th.

[00:06:14] Unlucky or lucky, as you may call it.

[00:06:16] Or the 13th floor in hotels or buildings or whatever else.

[00:06:19] It's really to highlight that, you know what, we lie to ourselves about everything.

[00:06:22] And my buddy Pat Shannon wrote a book, Everything They Ever Told Me Was A Lie.

[00:06:26] And so I want to use the next questions about this idea.

[00:06:31] In sweeping act, Biden commutes 1,500 sentences, writes the New York Times.

[00:06:38] The biggest commute in a single day.

[00:06:41] And then they say this.

[00:06:43] A pardon wipes out a conviction while a commutation leaves the guilty verdict intact but reduces some or all of the, quote, punishment for this.

[00:06:58] But it got me kind of thinking about presidential clemency, about the Constitution, about words like commutations, pardons.

[00:07:07] Oh, then we're going to do preemptive pardons.

[00:07:09] And then we're going to do these things called blanket preemptive pardons.

[00:07:12] And I'm thinking, what on earth is going on?

[00:07:14] We're getting so far from the Constitution, doctor.

[00:07:16] It's not even funny.

[00:07:18] Well, the Constitution does offer pretty broad powers to the president to pardon and reprieve.

[00:07:26] Okay.

[00:07:27] But somebody's other thing.

[00:07:28] And let me hold on, though.

[00:07:29] I think there's very broad powers, but there's very limited scope for those broad powers.

[00:07:34] We'll discuss that.

[00:07:35] Go ahead.

[00:07:36] Well, they're not limited by the Constitution in terms of the way they're presented.

[00:07:41] But the way they are, the application of them is the president.

[00:07:48] I mean, back in 1868, Andy Johnson, the president, Andrew Johnson, I guess I should say out of respect.

[00:07:55] I don't know.

[00:07:56] He gave a blanket pardon to all those that had been involved in the rebellion against, you know, the effort to secede, all that, whatever.

[00:08:07] It was a civil war, yes, but there's nothing civil about it.

[00:08:10] Anyway, with the poison pen venomous 14th Amendment, they took away basically the right to vote for all of these individuals.

[00:08:22] And basically, they would have left the South without their natural leaders.

[00:08:26] And Johnson said, nope, ain't going to happen on my watch.

[00:08:29] So on Christmas of 1868, he signed a blanket pardon for all of those men.

[00:08:37] Now, I think that in the interest of healing and moving forward and absence of malice towards none, blah, blah, blah, all that kind of stuff,

[00:08:46] there were, there was, there was some things that, you know, if you look at the 14th Amendment, Section 3, it really was venomously written.

[00:08:56] And by the way, the 14th Amendment is probably the most litigated amendment in the Constitution.

[00:09:02] It has been used to completely just trounce individual God-given rights, recognition of states, and all those kind of things, the sovereignty of those, all of that.

[00:09:13] But Johnson did that on Christmas Day, 1865.

[00:09:18] So there's some pretty broad powers there.

[00:09:20] All right, so let's talk about it.

[00:09:21] Do you have that handy?

[00:09:22] What is it, Article 2?

[00:09:23] Is that what we're talking about?

[00:09:25] Of what?

[00:09:25] The Constitution?

[00:09:27] Yeah, sure.

[00:09:28] Yeah.

[00:09:29] It just happens.

[00:09:30] I'm not very smart.

[00:09:31] I'm just kind of saying if we go to that and we kind of read that part about pardons, it's in Article 2.

[00:09:36] It's in Article 2, Section 2, at the end of the first clause.

[00:09:40] Okay.

[00:09:40] And so it says, meaning when it says he, it means, you know, president, because that's the whole reference through here.

[00:09:50] He shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

[00:10:00] So it makes an exception, and that's reasonably understood if people were willing to talk about that.

[00:10:05] But it's a very brief statement, reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States.

[00:10:11] Now, what he did would, now, really, I'll back up even a little bit further in this and take a deep breath.

[00:10:19] I have not yet seen such a pardon for Hunter.

[00:10:25] I mean, a news conference is not a pardon.

[00:10:28] He gets up and blah, blah, blah.

[00:10:31] I've pardoned my son.

[00:10:32] Go ahead and skip the break on this one.

[00:10:33] Go ahead.

[00:10:34] Okay.

[00:10:34] I've pardoned my son, Hunter.

[00:10:39] And, okay, well, there's a process.

[00:10:41] You know, you can't just get up and announce it in a news conference and have it official and stick and everything.

[00:10:48] Well, he may have written something that I haven't seen yet.

[00:10:52] Now, I've seen firsthand with my own eyes the pardon that Gerald Ford gave to Richard Nixon for all sins known and unknown.

[00:11:04] And that was a really, that was a stretch in my opinion.

[00:11:09] Now, the reason is, similar to what happened with Hunter, Joe pardoned him for all sins from 2014 forward.

[00:11:18] So he's got a 10-year gap of any culpability, at least the way that it's being proposed.

[00:11:25] He's got a 10-year gap.

[00:11:26] Now we get into the debate about preemptive pardons.

[00:11:29] So I don't think that Joe pardoned him from all sins.

[00:11:33] I don't think that there's a such thing as a preemptive pardon.

[00:11:37] Well, I don't either.

[00:11:38] If you haven't been charged with a crime, ladies and gentlemen, you can't pardon something that doesn't exist.

[00:11:44] And it doesn't say preemptive pardons.

[00:11:47] It doesn't say if you think the next president's going to be a bad guy and go after your enemies or after your friends.

[00:11:52] It doesn't say anything like that.

[00:11:54] It says pardons.

[00:11:55] And then it says against the what?

[00:11:56] The United States.

[00:11:58] So that means general in nature, not a specific state.

[00:12:02] Remember, we have separate sovereign republics that are independent.

[00:12:04] How many crimes are general or federal crimes in the first place?

[00:12:09] Ninety percent of what we call federal crimes today are bogus and they're stolen power and they're not constitutional in the first place.

[00:12:15] So when you take the very limited scope of general federal crimes, when you take the president's pardon ability to, you know, deal with people that have committed issues against the United States.

[00:12:28] Now we're talking about a general level.

[00:12:31] We're talking about a very limited scope of crimes and we're not talking about preemptive anythings, constitutionally speaking.

[00:12:38] So that's why I say, yes, he has broad powers.

[00:12:40] Don't misunderstand me.

[00:12:41] But they're very narrow in scope, comparatively speaking, and compared to the discussions we're having today in modern society.

[00:12:47] Now, the reason I support the pardon that Hunter got was because right now there's two crimes Hunters quote guilty of and been prosecuted and convicted of so far.

[00:12:56] They're waiting on the sentencing or some of those details, right?

[00:12:58] One of them is this gun idea that he had to fill out some government form and he didn't fill it out right.

[00:13:04] He lied on there.

[00:13:05] And so he's he shouldn't have to fill out a government form to have a gun anyway.

[00:13:08] The right to keep and bear arms says your right shall not be infringed.

[00:13:11] It doesn't say unless you're a felon, unless you're a bad guy, unless you're, you know, Joe's son, unless you're it doesn't say that.

[00:13:18] And so he should have never had to fill out this government unauthorized illegal form in the first place.

[00:13:23] So I think a pardon is warranted.

[00:13:25] Secondly, this idea that he what else did he do?

[00:13:29] He had a gun.

[00:13:30] It was taxes.

[00:13:31] It was 14 charges in taxes.

[00:13:33] OK, so the taxes.

[00:13:34] I don't believe the income taxes are legitimately constitutional either.

[00:13:37] They're criminal.

[00:13:38] They're direct taxes.

[00:13:38] They're against the intent of the founding fathers.

[00:13:40] And I don't want to punish a guy for supposed tax crimes.

[00:13:44] I think the law is bogus.

[00:13:45] So I'd get Hunter off on the tax one as well.

[00:13:48] Now, here's the point that I'm getting at.

[00:13:51] Neither of those there's authority for.

[00:13:53] So you've got to have three things, in my opinion, to carry out this this conviction of crimes.

[00:13:58] You've got to have one authority to carry it out.

[00:14:00] And over taxes and guns, the general government doesn't have authority in that regard.

[00:14:04] Now, I know you would say, well, Sam, Congress has authority over taxes.

[00:14:06] Not the way it's implemented because it's become judge, jury and executioner, folks.

[00:14:10] OK, it's at the Gestapo.

[00:14:12] You swear under the penalty of perjury and everything else.

[00:14:14] All right.

[00:14:15] Now, where's my Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights when I swear under the penalty of perjury for some supposed voluntary tax that no one can get to the bottom of?

[00:14:22] Because Congress and the courts and the, you know, we go on and on around the circle.

[00:14:26] But I digress, except to say, hey, gun gun charters and tax charges.

[00:14:30] I'm defending Hunter on that.

[00:14:32] However, and here's the point.

[00:14:34] He has committed crimes with his pop, with what they call the big guy, Joe.

[00:14:39] And they've committed crimes that literally directly relate to international relations, pay-to-play schemes and more.

[00:14:46] And that Joe can't pardon.

[00:14:50] And the reason Joe can't pardon that is because all what?

[00:14:55] Roads lead to Joe?

[00:14:56] All roads lead to Joe.

[00:14:56] And so the question becomes, can Joe pardon himself or can he use this pardon authority to prevent crimes and high crimes and misdemeanors to be filed against Joe after an impeachment?

[00:15:11] See, they never impeached Joe, which they should have.

[00:15:13] See, we've got to follow the law.

[00:15:14] But my point is, you can't just get yourself out of all these things.

[00:15:18] And you can't just dismiss all these things.

[00:15:20] The pardon is not absolute.

[00:15:21] And so when is a pardon an authoritative pardon, legitimately so by the broad powers granted, versus when have we crossed the line and we're using pardons to protect ourselves from criminal activity that are high crimes and misdemeanors and everything else?

[00:15:35] And so we've got this, what we're spending time on is these charges that are bogus against Hunter.

[00:15:40] And we're using that now to create this pardon and a preemptive pardon, supposedly, for everything else under the sun so that all roads never lead to Joe.

[00:15:51] Am I crazy on this, Dr. Bradley?

[00:15:54] Well, unfortunately, you've raised, it's probably less than 200, but probably close to 200 issues that we should probably discuss and chase to ground.

[00:16:03] That's how I roll that.

[00:16:04] That's a good statement of it.

[00:16:05] I'm telling you, the preemptive concept and this idea that Joe can preempt not only any further pursuing prosecution against Hunter is a false thing, but it's also false, I believe, and I think there's a way around it, that it would prevent Joe from ever being implicated in any of these things.

[00:16:30] See, if in fact, this pardon could be blanket, preemptive, and all across the board for Hunter.

[00:16:38] That does not mean that Hunter did not exist.

[00:16:42] He goes away.

[00:16:44] Any strings that come to Hunter that can be pulled on and take to Joe can still be pulled on.

[00:16:50] And you do not have to have a conviction on Hunter to get a conviction on Joe.

[00:16:56] And so I think that it's a pipe dream that they're trying to prevent anything from happening to Joe.

[00:17:02] Well, if everybody's constitutionally stupid and they fall for it, it's not a pipe dream.

[00:17:06] It'll happen.

[00:17:06] Well, that is the problem.

[00:17:08] And that's why I'm spending so much time on these details about this.

[00:17:11] It says nothing about preemptive anything, right?

[00:17:15] Well, yeah, it's absurd to this idea.

[00:17:18] Otherwise, we need to go July 4th, 1967.

[00:17:20] That's the day I was born.

[00:17:22] And then we ought to say through, like, I don't know, 2,600 or something like that, Sam's guilty of nothing ever.

[00:17:30] See?

[00:17:31] And then I'd be all cool preemptively.

[00:17:33] Okay, this preemptive idea is a lie, isn't it?

[00:17:35] There's no constitutional backing for preempt anything, is there?

[00:17:38] Well, I agree.

[00:17:39] Read it again.

[00:17:40] It doesn't say that.

[00:17:41] But it's very similar to the indulgences that the Catholic Church used to sell for future sins.

[00:17:49] It's like, you mean I can pay for something now?

[00:17:52] And I can go whatever you have on your mind, your nefarious mind comes up with.

[00:17:55] And I will never be held accountable by God?

[00:17:58] And that's as absurd as this.

[00:18:00] So, yeah, the preemptive, I mean, this preemptive part, you're absolutely right.

[00:18:05] But it's pretty broad to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

[00:18:14] That's what it says specifically in article 2.

[00:18:15] Let's stop when we say against the United States, though.

[00:18:18] Well, here's one of the other things that you brought up.

[00:18:20] What does that mean?

[00:18:22] One of the many other things that you brought up was this idea of a federal offense.

[00:18:27] And, you know, speaking in broad terms, everything's a federal offense now.

[00:18:32] Which is totally bogus and unconstitutional.

[00:18:35] Absolutely.

[00:18:36] The delegation of authority over crimes was very narrow in the Constitution.

[00:18:41] And we can go at length and talk about that with what the founders wrote about the limited scope of federal legal authority to do anything within the United States, within the boundaries of it.

[00:18:53] I mean, yeah, you can go offshore and you can do the piracy thing and all that kind of stuff.

[00:18:57] But, you know, you can look at counterfeiting, for example.

[00:19:00] That was a big deal, is a big deal.

[00:19:02] And the fact of the matter is that beyond a lot of that, there's not – I mean, all of these things.

[00:19:09] And then you bring up the Judge Dureen-Hangman thing.

[00:19:11] Just for a moment on that, and maybe we can get far afield.

[00:19:14] But the Judge Dureen-Hangman thing has to do with the alphabet soup organizations that create the law, they enforce the law, and they adjudicate the law within their organization.

[00:19:27] Those alphabet soup organizations are an executive branch.

[00:19:32] They are not the legislature.

[00:19:34] They are not Article I, Section I created law.

[00:19:37] They create their – well, they're not laws.

[00:19:40] They say these are regulations and these are ordinances or whatever.

[00:19:45] They use all sorts of weasel words.

[00:19:46] But if it walks like a law and it talks like a law and it's enforced like a law, it's a law.

[00:19:51] And so, in essence, we have executive branch departments creating law unconstitutionally.

[00:19:57] Article I, Section I.

[00:19:59] Go read that if you don't believe me.

[00:20:00] And think IRS at the tip of the spear on this sucker.

[00:20:03] Well, IRS or anybody.

[00:20:05] I mean, OSHA, FDA.

[00:20:08] I mean –

[00:20:08] The IRS is the one that crosses into everybody's lines.

[00:20:11] OSHA, FDA, usually business stuff.

[00:20:13] But, I mean, IRS reaches into everybody, right?

[00:20:16] Well, right.

[00:20:17] But if you've been caught in this trap, Sam, FCC.

[00:20:21] Oh, yeah, of course.

[00:20:21] Your fence fell down.

[00:20:22] And suddenly you've got this big, bulky penalty on your head.

[00:20:26] But so these guys create the law about, oh, you've got to have a fence around your antenna, whatever.

[00:20:32] It fell down.

[00:20:32] You didn't know about it.

[00:20:33] So they came and wrote you up, and it's a big penalty.

[00:20:36] And then they enforce that law.

[00:20:37] See, this separation of powers thing completely goes away.

[00:20:41] So there are so many things wrong with how we –

[00:20:45] Look at this.

[00:20:46] And that's why I'm saying, yes, I agree that there's broad powers granted to the executive, the president in this case.

[00:20:52] But it's broad powers, but you've got to look at the limitations, not just run around saying how broad his powers are.

[00:20:58] You've got to say, okay, there's no such thing as preemptive.

[00:21:01] Secondarily, against the United States, which means we're talking about federal or general crimes of the government.

[00:21:06] We're not talking about in all the different several states.

[00:21:08] If he violates a state law or this or that, it doesn't – he doesn't have authority just to do whatever he wants anywhere.

[00:21:15] There's limits and bounds even though he's got broad authority within his limited scope, right?

[00:21:21] That's true.

[00:21:21] I mean, he really is within presidential power to do many of these things.

[00:21:26] But we have created such a web of deceit around federal law that it becomes a pretty – it becomes hazy.

[00:21:37] And that's what I'm here to push against.

[00:21:39] And that's what I'm here to stand up for the founding father-esque intentions.

[00:21:42] They never had the intentions of Joe pardoning his son so that no leads can go to Joe for criminal activity with pay-to-play international relationships that violate the supreme law of our land, that violate constitutional and presidential authority and everything else.

[00:21:58] That was never the intent.

[00:22:00] That's what it's being used for right now.

[00:22:02] It's also being used right now to say we can preemptively pardon people.

[00:22:06] So just say Anthony Fauci.

[00:22:08] Donald Trump is planning to – and hopefully RFKJR is planning to – hopefully Rand Paul and others are planning to.

[00:22:14] Look, I support due process for Fauci but prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law for his crimes.

[00:22:20] Well, Joe wants to say I've got God-like power and I can preemptively pardon so that if Donald tries to do anything or RFK or anybody tries to do anything, there's already a pre-pardon in place.

[00:22:32] It's a – you know, there's no authority for any of that kind of stuff, people.

[00:22:36] That isn't real or right or authoritative in any way.

[00:22:40] It's a made-up baloney.

[00:22:41] It's not constitutional.

[00:22:43] And if President – currently Joe Biden uses that authority, he's a criminal.

[00:22:48] I'm telling you right now, there's no authority for this.

[00:22:50] Go look at your constitution.

[00:22:51] If you don't believe me, we just read it.

[00:22:53] There is zero authority for that, doctor.

[00:22:56] Well, you're right.

[00:22:57] And there's a couple of things that probably need to be reemphasized.

[00:23:01] But number one, if there has not been charges and a conviction, how do you get a pardon?

[00:23:08] It's a preemptive pardon.

[00:23:10] You just make up a lie and pretend your broad authority allows for that, right?

[00:23:14] There is no authority for those kinds of things.

[00:23:17] And honestly, so would Donald Trump be bound by these things.

[00:23:22] 100% agree.

[00:23:22] Trump does not get a pass on this thing either.

[00:23:24] So, first of all, Fauci would be completely off the table in being able to obtain one of these things.

[00:23:31] And so would Hillary Clinton with her, let's say, her server that was in her bathroom or wherever the heck she put it that she ran top secret case through.

[00:23:41] See, they fought so hard against and broke the law to make sure there's never any charges against these people.

[00:23:46] And now they think they can say, well, there's no charges, but we're going to do a preemptive pardon.

[00:23:49] It doesn't work that way, people.

[00:23:51] That isn't the way.

[00:23:52] We're playing fast and loose, baby, is what I'm telling you.

[00:23:55] Now, I'm not denying the president has appropriate broad authority within his scope.

[00:23:59] I get it.

[00:23:59] But we've got to define the scope here.

[00:24:01] We're being led all over the map and being deceived, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:24:05] I'm telling you right now.

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[00:30:37] They're incredible.

[00:30:38] And then turned into videos after the fact.

[00:30:40] We're talking about in sweeping act, Biden, quote, commutes.

[00:30:46] 1,500 sentences, they say, the largest in one day by a president, New York Times.

[00:30:53] But I have a problem with all that because I don't understand all these words very well.

[00:30:57] Well, maybe I understand them more than I'm giving myself credit for.

[00:31:00] I don't think most people understand these words.

[00:31:02] Just so you know, they say Biden commutes.

[00:31:07] What is a commute, ladies and gentlemen?

[00:31:10] Well, it's not in the Constitution, doctor.

[00:31:13] So what do you mean he commutes?

[00:31:14] Where does he get authority to do this when the word doesn't even exist in the Constitution, my friend?

[00:31:19] Well, they're doing an extension.

[00:31:20] They're doing an extension of what actually is in the Constitution, which, you know, we get into trouble.

[00:31:26] No, we don't do extensions.

[00:31:27] Hold on.

[00:31:28] Hold on.

[00:31:29] We don't do extensions or just random interpretations.

[00:31:33] It doesn't say commute at all.

[00:31:35] No, it does not.

[00:31:36] A commute is a verb, ladies and gentlemen, right?

[00:31:41] It means to reduce the sentence.

[00:31:45] Plural form of commutes, right?

[00:31:48] Well, it's a long drive for work.

[00:31:52] What it means is to say we're going to leave the conviction intact, but we're going to go ahead and just reduce the penalties.

[00:32:00] Right?

[00:32:02] Yeah.

[00:32:03] Okay.

[00:32:04] Okay.

[00:32:04] But what does the Constitution say?

[00:32:06] It uses a different word, doctor.

[00:32:08] Well, there's pardons and reprieves.

[00:32:11] Okay.

[00:32:12] So forget pardon for a second.

[00:32:14] But what's a reprieve compared to a commute?

[00:32:21] Well, there's so many little nuances to this thing.

[00:32:24] I kind of hesitate to try and put this down because, honestly, the nuances have become whenever attorneys get involved in things, the devil is in the defense.

[00:32:34] Yeah, it goes off the rails, buddy.

[00:32:36] And they create their own definitions before court.

[00:32:38] And then they hold everybody to these whacked out definitions they create on the fly.

[00:32:42] And that's the problem is that there's always a new definition coming down the pipe.

[00:32:48] And by so doing, I mean, you look at Article 168, Clause 18, by that necessary and proper clause to carry out powers, they've decided it's an elastic clause that you can create new powers under.

[00:33:01] See, these things are just a complete – it's become a circus because of the legal beagles being involved.

[00:33:12] Let me just – before we – I know we've got to leave this, Sam.

[00:33:15] I know we can't – we can beat this to death and we'd probably have a lot of fun doing it for the next two hours.

[00:33:21] But there's a lot of ramifications here that if we misunderstand them and we take a blanket, a pardon, commute, reprieve,

[00:33:33] whatever the heck he's given to Hunter, and it prevents Joe, it insulates him, it removes Joe from any equation because first Joe took the payment and then Joe passed it on.

[00:33:43] Excuse me.

[00:33:43] First Hunter took the payment.

[00:33:45] Then he passed it on to Joe.

[00:33:46] Joe, well, you don't have to convict Hunter before you can go after Joe.

[00:33:51] If the money came illegally through ill-gotten gains and activities that were completely forbidden or unlawful, whatever you want to call it,

[00:34:00] and Hunter took the payment and filtered it through his screen of profitability and passed it on to Joe, the big guy, and he got the money, it's irrelevant.

[00:34:11] The money came through this process.

[00:34:14] Joe Biden in reality is not insulating himself against any future crimes or convictions or penalties, anything.

[00:34:26] And for people to leave that impression is very erroneous because people go, oh, well, we took that piece of the puzzle out.

[00:34:35] We don't know what the puzzle looks like.

[00:34:36] And so Joe couldn't possibly be in there because Hunter's no longer there.

[00:34:41] What a facade.

[00:34:42] This is a bunch of smoke and mirrors.

[00:34:46] And I'm absolutely convicted, if you will.

[00:34:49] Maybe I get a pardon.

[00:34:51] I'm convicted of the fact that by doing this, Joe, in no way, shape or form, insulates himself from future indictment.

[00:35:01] It just is not there.

[00:35:03] And if people keep saying that, it becomes that.

[00:35:07] It's like Joseph Goebbels said, the Nazi propaganda minister.

[00:35:11] That's right.

[00:35:40] It basically has to do with how they handle the conviction with the penalty.

[00:35:47] But they've made it so broad that it just is.

[00:35:51] So now we're not going to say that you can just basically pardon someone or you can.

[00:35:56] What's that other word?

[00:35:59] Reprieve.

[00:35:59] Reprieve.

[00:36:00] We're going to get into all these other words.

[00:36:02] We're going to talk preemptive.

[00:36:04] We're going to talk about blanket.

[00:36:05] We're going to talk about commuting.

[00:36:07] We're going to talk about clemency.

[00:36:12] And when we put all these words into this that aren't there, people, we give this president, judge, jury, and executioner authority preemptively.

[00:36:25] And I'm saying to you, that is not founding father rest.

[00:36:28] That is not the intent of the founders whatsoever.

[00:36:30] That is not.

[00:36:31] If you would ask the founding fathers, did they put that in for this preemptive idea?

[00:36:34] This what, you know, totality idea?

[00:36:38] This we can control all aspects of this.

[00:36:41] There's no courts involved.

[00:36:42] No legislative law involved.

[00:36:43] Nothing.

[00:36:43] The president's just like a god on this thing.

[00:36:46] Okay.

[00:36:46] I'm telling you right now, the founders would be turning in their graves, doctor.

[00:36:49] That's the whole point I'm making.

[00:36:51] Here's another thing that, I mean, like I say, there's so many strings to pull on this thing.

[00:36:56] But, you know, you talk about lawfare.

[00:36:57] We've said that a lot the last few years because of the bizarre things that have been going on using the justice so-called department to basically impose and persecute and detract and deflect and whatever you want to call it.

[00:37:15] And you say, oh, yeah, lawfare's been used against Trump.

[00:37:18] It's been a horrid thing.

[00:37:20] Think of the 14th Amendment.

[00:37:22] That was a huge, sweeping lawfare approach.

[00:37:28] And the president said, all these people that are swept up in this net, we're going to say they don't have any responsibility.

[00:37:35] Okay.

[00:37:36] So here's the deal.

[00:37:39] The criminals, in the case of Joe Biden's or in the case of the Congress, when they passed the 14th Amendment, the states ratified, but they did it under duress and it was done unconstitutionally.

[00:37:52] It was done by tyranny, and we can talk about that at length.

[00:37:55] But let's say the criminals that created the law or implemented the lawfare have been deflected.

[00:38:03] So innocent people, or at least people that need no more punishment, have been swept up in this.

[00:38:10] Then he's taking the president took care with that pardon.

[00:38:14] But what's happening with the Joe Biden thing is the people potentially, let's say some of the things that were inflicted, you know, Russia, Russia, Russia, whatever, on Trump.

[00:38:26] All of the investigations and the prosecutions and the Fannies and the Smiths and all these other people that came after Trump, they're going to be pardoned for violating the trust that was placed in them at the federal level.

[00:38:41] Okay.

[00:38:42] So this is turning all of this stuff on their head.

[00:38:45] There may be some superficial similarities between what happened with the 14th Amendment pardon and what they're attempting to do with this kind of pardon.

[00:38:54] They're giving the people that pursued the lawfare a pass.

[00:39:00] I mean, and Hillary Clinton in her responsibility to as Secretary of State to protect secret and top secret.

[00:39:09] You know, I've held clearances through my life.

[00:39:11] I don't currently hold any, but both secret and top secret clearances.

[00:39:16] And they would have hung me out to dry.

[00:39:19] They'd have taken away my birthday immediately with one offense.

[00:39:22] But she had, and when we know at least through the fine filter they've done on this, she had about 100 of those things.

[00:39:30] Not just, I mean, this goes well beyond having a server in her bathroom or wherever she put it.

[00:39:36] But we're talking about communiques that happened.

[00:39:39] There were probably about 60-something and about 30-something.

[00:39:44] So about 100, 60-something that were secret and 30-something that were top secret.

[00:39:49] And they gave her a pass.

[00:39:51] I mean, it's just absolutely absurd.

[00:39:53] But here she held, she was in an office that because of what she did, people were likely compromised.

[00:40:01] People likely died.

[00:40:03] Operations that had been going on for the security of the United States were interrupted and maybe destroyed

[00:40:08] and went underground and went to take another shape or form.

[00:40:13] But what she did was truly, she was culpable for.

[00:40:17] And they gave her a pass.

[00:40:18] And they may be offering a blanket pardon for something she's never been charged for because they hid it so well.

[00:40:26] She smashed the disc drives and the cell phones and all of the IP address.

[00:40:33] Everything got smashed by a hammer, if nothing else.

[00:40:36] So we've got plenty of problems, kids.

[00:40:39] Yeah, just so you know, a reprieve is a temporary suspension of a punishment.

[00:40:44] Oh, a little different, huh?

[00:40:46] See, we're manipulating words, folks.

[00:40:48] We're causing the problem.

[00:40:49] I think we need to prosecute these people to the full extent of the law.

[00:40:52] And I don't think this pardon is as absolute as people want you to believe.

[00:40:55] I'm telling you that right now.

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[00:43:13] All right, everybody's talking about what are called clemency powers of the president.

[00:43:18] Okay, the president's clemency powers.

[00:43:23] But I don't know what that means.

[00:43:25] I'm not very smart.

[00:43:25] I go into the Constitution.

[00:43:27] I go into, you know, Clause 2, Section 2, or whatever, Clause 1, whatever it is,

[00:43:32] Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1,

[00:43:34] and I don't see the word clemency powers there anywhere.

[00:43:38] What is presidential clemency?

[00:43:40] See, this word clemency, they say, is the overarching word that pardons and commutes

[00:43:47] and all these other preemptives and all these words come from.

[00:43:55] But I don't know about presidential clemency because the word doesn't appear there, doctor.

[00:44:00] Do you want to read it one more time?

[00:44:01] I'm just not very smart.

[00:44:02] I look over it and over it, and I'm looking for this clemency word, and it's not there.

[00:44:05] Okay, and you brought up an interesting point before that little intermediate break

[00:44:09] that I think ought to be pursued.

[00:44:11] That string ought to be pulled a little bit.

[00:44:13] But here's what it says in Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1.

[00:44:16] At the end of that clause, it says,

[00:44:18] He shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons.

[00:44:21] I want to come back to reprieves for a minute.

[00:44:23] That's the thing you brought up before the break.

[00:44:25] He shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States

[00:44:29] except in cases of impeachment.

[00:44:31] Now, the reprieve part is an issue that probably needs to...

[00:44:35] But where is this word, presidential clemency?

[00:44:40] It doesn't exist, people.

[00:44:43] Unless I'm retarded, I don't see it anywhere.

[00:44:46] It doesn't exist.

[00:44:47] Do you know of it existing anywhere, doctor?

[00:44:49] Well, it doesn't exist in the Constitution.

[00:44:51] It's a term that has to do with basically dealing with convictions and how they're carried out.

[00:44:59] Yeah, and what we're doing is we're giving so much power by this word, presidential clemency,

[00:45:06] that we're ignoring the intent of the founders.

[00:45:08] We're talking pardons, and we're talking this word that you want to focus on now, which I support.

[00:45:12] But that's my point is that it's not as broad as people think it is, not even close.

[00:45:17] And these words they're using makes it so broad there's no end to the judge, jury, and executioner reality of this thing

[00:45:24] if we allow this to stand.

[00:45:25] All right, let's talk about this.

[00:45:27] What's this word now?

[00:45:28] Reprieve.

[00:45:29] Reprieve.

[00:45:29] You're right.

[00:45:30] Everything is being broadened at the federal level.

[00:45:32] Everything, not just this issue of how you take care of it.

[00:45:35] Agreed 100%.

[00:45:36] But right now I'm focusing on this issue because it's so hot in the news, and I want to stop it.

[00:45:40] I want to stand for what's accurate and right.

[00:45:43] The Constitution says nothing about half these words they're using at all, people.

[00:45:48] Okay, so Sam, before the break, you brought up the word reprieve and said it temporarily postpones.

[00:45:54] Okay, now let's look at that.

[00:45:55] It temporarily postpones the imposition of a criminal sentence, and it's particularly used in a death sentence.

[00:46:04] So it's only a pause.

[00:46:06] And here's what happens.

[00:46:08] And we might say this is such a complicated issue.

[00:46:10] I'm the president.

[00:46:11] I'm going to put a pause on this until we gather more information.

[00:46:14] Or there might be a legitimate reason for a pause, but we're now using this to say,

[00:46:18] hey, we can just go ahead and change the whole game there because we're going to use this other word now.

[00:46:24] What's the other word?

[00:46:26] Well, this reprieve thing is a pause.

[00:46:29] It doesn't mean you've been exonerated.

[00:46:31] You've been set free.

[00:46:34] It means you've – let's say how – okay, you've probably seen in the movies about somebody's set to be hanged at 8 o'clock tomorrow morning,

[00:46:41] and they're waiting anxiously for the governor to intervene somehow.

[00:46:46] And what may happen is the governor or the president or whomever that's doing this reprieve or could have the power to reprieve says,

[00:46:53] you know what?

[00:46:54] We're going to give you a little more power to – or not power, but time to appeal and provide more time to consider.

[00:47:01] Yeah, we hear there's a lady being drawn in a stagecoach that has the evidence to prove innocence.

[00:47:06] Let's give a – what's that word?

[00:47:08] Reprieve?

[00:47:09] Yeah.

[00:47:10] It's a pause.

[00:47:11] You know, let's pause this thing to see what they've got at least before we take someone's life.

[00:47:16] Careful here.

[00:47:16] Okay, but we've now twisted this intent so far from reality.

[00:47:20] We're running around going, yeah, you can – anybody you want to.

[00:47:24] 1,500 people in sweeping – I'm going to call it unconstitutional act.

[00:47:29] Then we're going to go ahead and wipe out convictions.

[00:47:32] And then we're going to talk about presidential clemency.

[00:47:34] And wow, he's got all this power that he doesn't really have now, right?

[00:47:39] And on top of that, he can forgive all sins known and unknown.

[00:47:42] I mean, it is a very bizarre kind of scenario we're in.

[00:47:48] And I really, really, really want to make sure people understand that regardless of how this Hunter Parton thing turns out,

[00:47:56] for all sins known and unknown and everything else like that, dating back to 2014.

[00:48:00] See, I think the reason 2014 was picked by Joe or his handlers is that there were some nefarious things that were underway,

[00:48:09] particularly in Ukraine, during that period of time.

[00:48:12] That's when we overthrew the government of Ukraine.

[00:48:15] We carried out a coup on behalf of the establishment and installed a new group of people in Ukraine.

[00:48:24] So I think it goes back to that point for a reason.

[00:48:27] I mean, why didn't he pick year 2000?

[00:48:29] I mean, Hunter was screwed up.

[00:48:31] He's been screwed up all his life.

[00:48:32] I mean, he's a kid with a silver spoon that's been bailed on everything by his daddy.

[00:48:37] His dad was a powerful senator, and they figured out a way to play and game the system his whole life.

[00:48:43] But why didn't they go back earlier and say, you know what?

[00:48:46] We're going to erase everything.

[00:48:47] He's going to be clean.

[00:48:48] He never was on drugs or anything like that.

[00:48:51] It all still happened to people.

[00:48:53] And all of the violations of everything he did still happened.

[00:48:57] But for some reason, they picked 2014.

[00:48:59] And I think that's because it ties back to some things that happened when Joe Biden was vice president and pulling strings and receiving quid pro quo,

[00:49:10] some kind of you scratch my back, I'll scratch your kind of benefit.

[00:49:15] And the big guy, they're trying to prevent and put a firewall around him.

[00:49:19] And you can't do that.

[00:49:21] Whatever happened, happened.

[00:49:23] And if the evidence leads through Hunter, like father, like son, I guess,

[00:49:29] if the evidence leads through Hunter, Joe cannot be insulated just because Hunter does not have a conviction.

[00:49:36] It doesn't erase what happened.

[00:49:38] It doesn't erase any activity.

[00:49:40] It doesn't do anything.

[00:49:43] It doesn't break a chain that's that's unrepairable.

[00:49:46] I mean, it still goes to Joe if it goes to Joe.

[00:49:50] And we don't know that yet.

[00:49:51] But I'm assuming there was a reason why they went back to 2014 and said there's a here's a 10 year gap that never existed.

[00:50:00] And, oh, presto changel.

[00:50:03] Joe Biden gets his get out of jail free letter because he never had to even face anything.

[00:50:08] So these kind of I think there's there's stuff going on behind the scenes that is far more than just Hunter Biden,

[00:50:17] a petty criminal that's had a troubled life that's somehow going to straighten his life out.

[00:50:23] No, I think there's bigger fish to fry.

[00:50:26] And what they're thinking about doing with with this, with blanket pardons for everybody.

[00:50:30] I mean, Hillary Clinton.

[00:50:32] Holy cow.

[00:50:33] She sold out our strategic weaponry capability.

[00:50:38] Our nukes couldn't be formulated without.

[00:50:41] I mean, these kinds of things.

[00:50:42] If you give a blanket pardon like that, everybody thinks, oh, it all went away.

[00:50:46] It all just went away.

[00:50:47] Now, listen to this interesting deal.

[00:50:48] So Rep. Benny Thompson.

[00:50:50] That's the guy that had this, you know, attack Donald Trump on the J6 committee that, you know, created all kinds of lies and everything else.

[00:50:57] Now he's scared because Kash Patel might head up the FBI and people are saying they're going to take names and kick some butts and everything else.

[00:51:05] And so now Benny Thompson says this.

[00:51:07] He's the former chair of that committee that I told you that literally told all these lies on January the 6th.

[00:51:11] Right.

[00:51:11] On Thursday, he said that he would accept a preemptive pardon.

[00:51:20] From Biden.

[00:51:21] Because Biden needs to give this out of fear that Trump might target him with a, quote, criminal investigation.

[00:51:29] So now you got this guy literally begging for a pardon going, hey, if you go ahead and pardon me, I'll accept it, Joe.

[00:51:35] Come on, baby, please.

[00:51:37] Donald's coming after me and I need you to please.

[00:51:39] I'll accept it if you send me one.

[00:51:42] Okay.

[00:51:43] I mean, this is the height of the point that I'm making.

[00:51:47] This is insane.

[00:51:48] People are running around begging for pardons that are preemptive in nature in case somebody might possibly go after them for crimes they know they've committed, doctor.

[00:51:57] Well, there was one program that Bill Clinton went on and he said he'd be willing to talk to Joe about getting one for Hillary.

[00:52:05] I mean, this is something they went to great lengths to say she never.

[00:52:10] I mean, she was protected.

[00:52:12] They went to great lengths to protect her.

[00:52:14] And according to the narrative, she didn't commit any crimes.

[00:52:17] But Bill's not ready to talk to Joe about that.

[00:52:20] By the way, who wouldn't take a preemptive pardon?

[00:52:23] I mean, maybe there's a traffic ticket.

[00:52:25] I'd accept one if you sent me one.

[00:52:25] I sure would.

[00:52:27] Yeah.

[00:52:27] Well, that's the thing.

[00:52:28] It's bizarre.

[00:52:30] We're in bizarro world.

[00:52:31] Wouldn't you accept the pardon if you got a preemptive pardon too, doctor?

[00:52:33] Just make the dates as broad as you can, please.

[00:52:36] Well, I want a lifelong one.

[00:52:38] I want it for stuff I haven't done yet.

[00:52:41] Cradle to grave or what, you know.

[00:52:45] It's bizarro world.

[00:52:46] I want a womb-to-tomb pardon, ladies.

[00:52:48] A preemptive womb-to-tomb pardon, please, for Sam Bushman, Joe.

[00:52:53] Okay?

[00:52:53] Sam Bushman wants a womb-to-tomb preemptive pardon, please.

[00:52:57] Because, you know, this is just so off the rails.

[00:53:01] Who's bringing it to ground like I am, Dr. Bradley?

[00:53:04] Anybody?

[00:53:04] Have you seen anybody really drill into this like this and just say, wait, this is off the rails crazy?

[00:53:11] Well, you know what?

[00:53:12] I spend a lot of time trying to think about stuff like this.

[00:53:15] And I'm out looking around.

[00:53:17] Like I say, I spend an awful lot of time.

[00:53:19] I wasted a lot of time, I guess I should say, on a big Pentagon briefing yesterday because I want to know what the different sources are saying.

[00:53:27] And honestly, as to the point you're trying to make about this topic, I just don't think it's getting the kind of debate anywhere in any kind of forum that what we're trying to do with this.

[00:53:39] Hey, all roads lead to hell with good intentions is kind of an idea.

[00:53:42] They're not going down any of the right roads.

[00:53:43] And they don't care what road you go down.

[00:53:44] As long as you're on the wrong one, they're fine with whichever one you choose.

[00:53:47] That's really where we are, too.

[00:53:49] Yeah.

[00:53:50] As long as you get me womb to tomb grace to do whatever I want and break all the laws and criminal, I just need to know in my womb to tomb pardon what laws I'm allowed to break in my pardon.

[00:53:59] And I just need the list.

[00:54:00] You know what I mean?

[00:54:01] It's universal, Tim.

[00:54:03] It's crazy.

[00:54:04] I don't even understand it.

[00:54:06] It's not the intent of the founding fathers, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:54:08] I can promise you that.

[00:54:09] They were all about justice, but they were also all about mercy.

[00:54:13] But based on God's law, the rule of law, the moral high ground, not based on these unconstitutional whacked out whims of thugs that want to break the law with impunity.

[00:54:21] I'll tell you that right now.

[00:54:23] Hour one in the can.

[00:54:24] Dr. Scott Bradley with me.

[00:54:25] Hour two coming up.

[00:54:26] We're going to talk J6 and we're going to talk about COVID.

[00:54:29] Okay.

[00:54:29] We're going to get it done.

[00:54:30] We've got a sound bite and a whole lot more to play for you about this.

[00:54:34] Hour one in the can.

[00:54:35] Hour two coming up.

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