Radio Show Hour 1 – 11/28/2024

[00:00:12] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:00:25] All right, happy to have you along my fellow Americans, Sam Bushman live on your radio, the fourth Thursday of November.

[00:00:34] Yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen, live on this sacred day. Happy Thanksgiving 2024 from Team Liberty Roundtable Live.

[00:00:46] And yes, we are live for Thanksgiving. Thank you so much for being here.

[00:00:51] Our goal is to promote God, family and country and to protect life, liberty and property and to do so on your radio in the traditions of our founding fathers.

[00:00:59] It is November the 28th in the year of our Lord, 2024. I guess this is the latest Thanksgiving could ever be in the year, right?

[00:01:07] If the first Thursday is the seventh, then it couldn't get any later than that if it's the fourth Thursday.

[00:01:13] So you're going to have a short time between Thanksgiving and Christmas this time comparatively.

[00:01:18] So there you have that. But let's let this be, ladies and gentlemen, a day of public Thanksgiving and prayer, shall we?

[00:01:24] To be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of God Almighty, especially by authority and an opportunity to peacefully establish a proper role of government, a form of government for our safety and our happiness.

[00:01:46] That comes from President George Washington's Thanksgiving proclamation, October 3rd, 1789.

[00:01:55] Now, quickly before our guest, I got a couple of things that I want to say for housekeeping purposes.

[00:02:01] Incoming White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt revealed on Wednesday that several of Trump's cabinet picks are facing threats of violence.

[00:02:12] In fact, Tom Holman said on Fox News that he would not be intimidated by those seeking to harm him or other cabinet members following bomb threats and swatting calls.

[00:02:27] Now, folks, let me just say this right now.

[00:02:29] I don't care who wins the presidency.

[00:02:32] I don't care who are picked for cabinet positions.

[00:02:35] I don't care.

[00:02:37] OK, we we must not turn to violence.

[00:02:42] We must reject that narrative completely.

[00:02:46] We need the peaceful transfer of power.

[00:02:48] We need to have a clarion call for civility, especially when it comes to Thanksgiving.

[00:02:54] Left, right.

[00:02:56] Stop it.

[00:02:57] Absolutely stop it.

[00:02:59] You know what?

[00:03:00] We can come together and say, you know what?

[00:03:03] I may not even agree with what you believe or say, but I respect your right to say it, to believe it, to think it.

[00:03:08] Even if I think you're off your rock crazy, we need to realize that kindness and civility is the way forward for the greatest country on the face of the earth.

[00:03:18] Happy Thanksgiving.

[00:03:19] And with that, I'd like to introduce our first guest, Mr.

[00:03:22] Pete Sepp.

[00:03:22] He's the president of the National Taxpayers Union and to you dot org.

[00:03:27] Welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live and a happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, sir.

[00:03:31] Well, thanks so much, Sam.

[00:03:33] Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well.

[00:03:35] I can tell you that was a wonderful opening to this program.

[00:03:39] And I would add that left, right, center, just about everyone in the United States today is a taxpayer, sometimes even if they don't know it.

[00:03:50] Even if you're a child who goes to the store to buy a piece of candy, likely you're paying state or local sales tax.

[00:03:58] So that is something that unites us all.

[00:04:02] We can argue the particulars of what the Constitution allows government to do to protect our safety and happiness and promote it.

[00:04:12] But we can certainly agree that one thing that binds most of us is that somehow we all pay taxes.

[00:04:21] And we all want the same thing, in my opinion.

[00:04:24] At least we should.

[00:04:25] We all should want peace and safety for ourselves and our loved ones, no matter who you are, right?

[00:04:30] Absolutely.

[00:04:32] All right.

[00:04:33] Anyway, I just felt like it was worth taking time.

[00:04:35] And when I hear coming out of the gate this morning that, hey, there's violent threats against all these different people.

[00:04:41] And I'm thinking, what on earth is going on around here?

[00:04:46] It's something we really have to consider.

[00:04:48] All right.

[00:04:48] There's a bunch of changes going on as well.

[00:04:50] There's big old discussions of Donald Trump throwing a 25% tariff on Mexico and on Canada.

[00:04:58] Everybody's firing back.

[00:04:59] And everybody kind of equates tariffs to almost like terrorism.

[00:05:03] I don't agree that it's true at all.

[00:05:05] I do agree that if we just pile tariffs on top of the current tax burden that we, the American people, pay, it will be disaster.

[00:05:12] However, I do favor tariffs over other taxing forms because of the indirect nature of tariffs.

[00:05:19] Currently, the direct nature of taxes are a problem in America.

[00:05:22] So I support the tariffs.

[00:05:24] But I also support the idea that you cannot pile it on top.

[00:05:28] Fine.

[00:05:29] Add the tariffs.

[00:05:30] But decrease government spending and government taxation on the people directly, at least in proportion to, if not even greater than.

[00:05:39] With that introduction, what do you say to that, Pete?

[00:05:42] Yeah.

[00:05:43] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:05:44] What we have to do here, I think, as people who are advocates for taxpayers and limited government,

[00:05:51] is appeal to President-elect Donald J. Trump's better angels and say, look, if you want to subscribe to the thing you say you subscribe to,

[00:06:03] and this is a great plan, Trump is saying, zero, zero, zero.

[00:06:08] We need to aim for a world where you have zero tariffs, zero trade barriers, zero subsidies.

[00:06:14] Well, that's one approach.

[00:06:16] If you want to aim for a world where you have a limited constitutional government that essentially says, look, the 16th Amendment was a big mistake,

[00:06:29] granting too much taxing power to the federal government.

[00:06:32] We need to return to the founders' roots where you had a government financed by indirect taxes like tariffs.

[00:06:40] Okay, that's another approach.

[00:06:43] But combining both where you have, as you say, high taxes, even moderate taxes, and a bunch of tariffs,

[00:06:51] that's a formula that basically continues to burden the American people in other forms.

[00:06:58] So we need to make a choice.

[00:07:00] And will flat out not work in the long term.

[00:07:01] Let's be very clear.

[00:07:03] That's right.

[00:07:04] That's exactly right.

[00:07:05] And we need to remember that tariffs are taxes on imports.

[00:07:11] The companies and the countries that these tariffs are aimed at don't really pay.

[00:07:16] We do in the form of higher prices or our own businesses do because they're depending on raw materials imported from elsewhere to make the goods and services here in the U.S.

[00:07:30] And let's even make it more clear before you go on.

[00:07:33] Businesses and countries don't pay taxes.

[00:07:35] Families do.

[00:07:36] People do.

[00:07:38] Right?

[00:07:38] That's right.

[00:07:39] That's right.

[00:07:40] And what Donald Trump is proposing could mean higher prices in the form of tariffs, trade taxes,

[00:07:49] of up to $2,000 for the average family.

[00:07:52] What are we going to do to offset that if the president is really serious about either $0,000 or cutting taxes?

[00:08:02] Got to choose one path here and make sure it happens.

[00:08:06] Otherwise, the American people are going to suffer financially.

[00:08:11] And you've got to do it simultaneously or you've got to have one proceed the other in the proper order, Pete Seppa.

[00:08:17] You've got to lower taxes and then add tariffs.

[00:08:21] You can't do it the other way around.

[00:08:22] You can't say I'm going to add the tariffs day one and we'll get to the taxes, I promise, because it'll be disaster in the middle.

[00:08:28] And what you'll do is you'll drive up inflation.

[00:08:30] You'll run people out of business.

[00:08:32] You'll create fear tactics around the world.

[00:08:34] I'm telling you right now, you're going to have to lead by cutting taxes and expenses if you want to add those tariffs.

[00:08:41] That's exactly right, Sam.

[00:08:42] And all we need to do is take a look at some of the latest government inflation reports.

[00:08:49] Just yesterday I saw this.

[00:08:51] A key measure of inflation ticked up upward, a tenth of a percentage point.

[00:08:57] Inflation is not completely beaten yet by all the manipulations of the Federal Reserve.

[00:09:04] Hey, that's a whole other hour we could talk about that entity.

[00:09:08] But the point is we can't take a risk out of the gate, as you said, by just slapping the tariffs on all of these goods coming in and then hoping that Congress and the White House can somehow work out a deal on taxes.

[00:09:23] One has to come before the other, and the tax relief is what comes first.

[00:09:29] We also need to really worry about the confusion that can be added if you tax certain products or tariff certain products at certain rates and depending on details.

[00:09:40] And it gets very complicated for businesses to deal with it.

[00:09:44] Do they raise their prices instantly?

[00:09:45] Do they just eat the margins and take a hit business-wise?

[00:09:49] What happens when it changes?

[00:09:50] What happens when it, you know, what products go in?

[00:09:53] What categories for tariffs?

[00:09:55] And, man, can we recategorize this product for this reason and that reason?

[00:09:58] And it becomes a very difficult business proposition as well, Pete.

[00:10:02] Oh, yes, yes.

[00:10:04] And there are all kinds of ways that companies can respond here.

[00:10:09] Plus, you have the uncertainty factor.

[00:10:12] If you're a business thinking about whether you're going to add another shift of workers at your plant or just hire a few more people, what are you going to do for your 2025 planning?

[00:10:25] And businesses are undergoing that kind of planning right now.

[00:10:28] What are you going to do if you're thinking, well, gee, here comes a 20%, 25% tariff on the ores that I need to make my steel here in the United States or some other chemical substance that I need to go into my product.

[00:10:47] And I got to have the raw material from a mine that comes out of Canada or something from Mexico.

[00:10:54] And how are companies going to respond in terms of they do things like transiting?

[00:11:01] In other words, they transship those raw materials through a country that may not have tariffs on it.

[00:11:09] That's kind of a form of avoidance.

[00:11:12] And you have the problem of the revenue projections from the tariffs being unstable.

[00:11:18] You know, all of those responses occur just as if you're talking about your traditional types of taxes.

[00:11:28] All right, let me throw this out, too, because I think this really has relevance to this tariff discussion.

[00:11:33] The Founding Fathers understood the indirect benefits, the blessings, the value of tariffs.

[00:11:39] It wouldn't put the burden on the back of the American people.

[00:11:41] And it created a two-step, if you will, between government and the people.

[00:11:46] Okay, government could tax on the border, dealing with foreign nations, but they couldn't directly deal with the people.

[00:11:52] And so you didn't have to worry about your personal details or anything like that before government because it wasn't involved.

[00:11:59] The Founders understood that value, but they also understood the value of using tariffs to negotiate and work with countries that support the free market

[00:12:09] or support the capitalist kind of market, so the free enterprise system.

[00:12:17] That's what I'm looking for, free enterprise system.

[00:12:19] And they understood all that, and they wanted to promote countries that did, and they wanted to basically penalize countries that violated those principles

[00:12:26] because it was impossible to compete if you have slaves or if you have – I mean, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole.

[00:12:31] I'm just saying that kind of hostility to the market or government's subsidizing markets, they wanted to prevent that.

[00:12:37] But they also then wanted to work on an idea where they said, we've got to make sure tariffs can be used for this purpose.

[00:12:45] It wasn't meant to be used as a weapon necessarily, but it was meant to promote appropriate trade and foster and increase trade.

[00:12:54] And they also understood that the more they could increase trade, the bigger the pie they could create,

[00:12:58] and the less the tariffs had to be, you'd actually even have more dollars.

[00:13:02] Pete, you want to respond to that?

[00:13:04] Yeah, that's exactly right.

[00:13:06] I mean, it's the exact same principle that you see with things like corporate profit taxes or personal income taxes.

[00:13:14] Keep the rates low.

[00:13:16] Keep the system understandable and predictable.

[00:13:20] And what you get is economic activity based on the fact that, hey, if I'm a businessman or if I'm an individual climbing up the corporate ladder,

[00:13:32] this is going to be my tax burden.

[00:13:35] I'm not going to have to worry about it wildly fluctuating.

[00:13:39] I'm not going to have to worry about the IRS coming after me.

[00:13:42] I'm not going to have to divulge every detail of my personal life, maybe just what I earn.

[00:13:48] And this amount of tax is going to be taken out.

[00:13:52] And I can concentrate on my own and my family's financial welfare.

[00:13:57] That's the way it's supposed to work.

[00:13:59] That's not the way it often works today.

[00:14:01] And the same kinds of principles apply to tariffs.

[00:14:05] We've got to get back to the vision that the founders had.

[00:14:10] And you made a very important point, Sam, about the privacy of your life.

[00:14:16] I mean, the founders would be shocked about how much information the Internal Revenue Service and state tax authorities get from us.

[00:14:24] And, you know, the whole cryptocurrency movement is a response to that.

[00:14:30] And the government's response in response?

[00:14:33] Well, it's to say we're going to make sure every single transaction you engage in with crypto is subject to a 1099 form.

[00:14:43] That's their recent rulemaking.

[00:14:46] These are the kinds of things that our founders wanted to avoid.

[00:14:50] And that's why they had indirect taxation.

[00:14:54] So, Pete, let's ask the question.

[00:14:56] Donald Trump has hinted towards getting rid of the IRS.

[00:15:00] Donald Trump has hinted and said, hey, we're going to have lower taxes.

[00:15:03] We're going to use tariffs as this.

[00:15:05] Okay.

[00:15:06] It's all great.

[00:15:07] I love it.

[00:15:07] But right now, all the folks that, you know, are against Donald Trump would say, hey, you know, these tariffs kind of equal terrorism.

[00:15:15] It's going to destroy the whole world.

[00:15:17] It's going to economically ruin us.

[00:15:18] It's going to run inflation through the roof.

[00:15:21] And they're half right.

[00:15:22] They are if we just add that on top of everything.

[00:15:24] It's true.

[00:15:25] But if we really change the game, it's not even close to true.

[00:15:28] In fact, it's a big lie.

[00:15:30] It's fake news.

[00:15:31] So will Donald Trump really take the cost-cutting measures, really abolish the IRS and the interference in the American people's lives,

[00:15:37] really decrease the direct taxes and some of these internal things in proportion or greater than the tariffs that he's talking about putting in place?

[00:15:46] What's the reality, do you think, from a taxpayer's perspective?

[00:15:49] We'll have the answer very quickly.

[00:15:53] And goodness knows, groups like National Taxpayers Union are going to keep pressing this administration and this Congress to move in the right direction and put those priorities you stated, Sam, first.

[00:16:06] Look at this so-called DOGE, Department on Government Efficiency.

[00:16:11] They have a mandate to find $2 trillion with a T dollars in government savings.

[00:16:17] They certainly can.

[00:16:19] Their guidebook, the Constitution.

[00:16:22] Take a look at the enumerate.

[00:16:24] Amen to that.

[00:16:24] By the way, do you guys have a lot of the groundwork necessary for DOGE to hit the ground running?

[00:16:30] Yes, absolutely we do.

[00:16:31] Us and Citizens Against Government Waste, a great partner in this movement.

[00:16:37] Even groups on the left that we work with sometimes, like Public Citizen, we come up with lists of areas where federal lawmakers as well as the executive branch,

[00:16:49] whether they're Democrats or Republicans, could look to reduce or control the size of government.

[00:16:55] So they certainly can hit the ground running.

[00:16:57] Start with that, then say we're going to dramatically reform the tax system at the same time.

[00:17:05] And then, only then, you have the discussion about tariffs.

[00:17:11] All right.

[00:17:12] How much control does the president really have to take the action that he's hoping, especially with an outside agency like a DOGE or whatever?

[00:17:19] He's given them one year to get this done.

[00:17:22] Consequently, I find that interesting.

[00:17:23] I had on former Congressman Steve Stockman with me the other day, and he was basically mentioning,

[00:17:27] look, they've got one year to take serious action.

[00:17:29] They don't have to have everything done in a year.

[00:17:31] They've got to have enough done in a year to run the next year before, you know, all 435 members of the House are up for reelection.

[00:17:38] They've got to run on that first year's successes or failures.

[00:17:42] That'll either haunt them or help them as they prepare for 2026 elections.

[00:17:46] And so you've really got one year, based on Donald Trump's timeframe and based on the point that former Congressman Stockman was making.

[00:17:54] They've got to hit the ground running and take action quickly.

[00:17:57] How much authority does the president really have in your mind to get this done?

[00:18:01] And do you think this outside agency and president, is it something they can get done?

[00:18:05] Liberals and others are kind of claiming, oh, it's so complicated, you'll never get it done.

[00:18:09] I fear they might be right, but I also hope for the best, right?

[00:18:12] That's exactly what I'm doing, Sam.

[00:18:15] And I think this is probably a two-thirds, one-third proposition.

[00:18:21] Two-thirds of the activity in restoring fiscal discipline and responsibility will have to come from Congress, maybe even three-quarters of it.

[00:18:30] They're going to have to actually change the statutory laws around taxes.

[00:18:36] They have the authority to appropriate money, pass budgets.

[00:18:40] The executive branch has a role here, though, in trade policy, certainly.

[00:18:46] The tariffs and those kinds of things are generally within the executive branch's authority, if only because Congress has ceded a lot of that over the years.

[00:18:57] But they definitely have control over the composition of the executive branch, whether the unions that represent government employees are always going to get their way or whether they're going to have to give and take some for once in a generation.

[00:19:12] And this brings up my plan, Pete, Seth.

[00:19:15] What I would do if I were President Trump is I would basically, you know, is using kind of the stick-in-the-carrot tariffs to negotiate with countries, which I think is wise as long as you're careful about it.

[00:19:24] But I think what you need to do is use the tariffs with Congress as well and say, Congress, I'm going to add 1% tariffs to goods and services across the board, and I need you guys to start getting serious about taxes.

[00:19:36] You say I'm raising costs for the American people.

[00:19:39] That's not true.

[00:19:40] I'm raising costs at the border, which I have, you know, general government authority to do.

[00:19:44] You guys have abused your taxing power, and I need you to fix it.

[00:19:47] And I'm going to slowly rise tariffs, and I expect you to cooperate and reduce direct burdens on the American people proportionately, gentlemen.

[00:19:55] Let's go.

[00:19:57] Yeah, that would be a good way to ante up in this important.

[00:20:02] I mean, this isn't a card game.

[00:20:04] I shouldn't even be using the term ante up.

[00:20:07] This is the future of the American people.

[00:20:09] And our great country.

[00:20:11] And the executive branch, the president can lead on some of these nominations.

[00:20:16] I'm interested in learning who the IRS commissioner nominee is going to be.

[00:20:21] Is the president going to replace the current one?

[00:20:24] Who's going to be their chief counsel?

[00:20:26] Those could be key appointments in transforming the entire tax system.

[00:20:31] If he nominates someone with good, hard-headed management experience who's going to say,

[00:20:36] hey, we're going to put a stop to all of these crazy IRS rulemakings, moratorium.

[00:20:42] We're going to reexamine our modernization efforts, which continue to be very, very slow-paced.

[00:20:50] We're going to make sure that customer service is put first at the IRS.

[00:20:56] Or we're just going to shut that sucker down and we don't even need anybody there anymore.

[00:21:01] Well, we could have a commissioner who ups that ante to use the term again and says,

[00:21:08] this is going to be make or break for the Internal Revenue Service.

[00:21:14] We have got to have the IRS get back on track and make sure that service, the third letter in its name,

[00:21:22] is put first, no matter what tax system we end up with.

[00:21:28] You're right about that.

[00:21:29] Do you believe we're far enough along and there's enough real proposals on the table to come together for this?

[00:21:35] Have they already kind of started the process?

[00:21:36] Because if they haven't, it takes so long for these things to happen, Pete.

[00:21:40] Yeah, I think there is a recognition, especially in the House of Representatives leadership with Speaker Mike Johnson, for example,

[00:21:49] that they have to perform.

[00:21:52] I'm not sure that Congressman Stockman's timetable is even short enough.

[00:21:59] They may need to have measurable progress by the summer of 2025 to be credible on this.

[00:22:08] In other words, 90, 180 days at most.

[00:22:11] In other words, half the time Stockman's talking about.

[00:22:13] And his point is the longest you have is a year because then you're going to have to run on that record.

[00:22:18] And so he's giving as much time to get as much done as he possibly can.

[00:22:21] If they're not really working on coming out of the gate with stuff now,

[00:22:25] if they're just hanging out for Thanksgiving and taking this massive recess,

[00:22:28] they've got to be really working on solid plans or they'll never get it done, Pete.

[00:22:33] I hate to be negative.

[00:22:33] I'm just being honest.

[00:22:35] Yeah, exactly.

[00:22:36] I can tell you this for a fact, Sam, because I've been in this town for 36 years.

[00:22:42] Bureaucracies right now, as we are talking, even on Thanksgiving Day,

[00:22:47] are thinking about how they can throw sand in the gears.

[00:22:52] How can they prevent the incoming administration from undoing some of their worst rulemaking excesses?

[00:23:00] And in an opposite move, they're trying to grease some of the gears by doing all of these midnight rulemakings that will spend a lot of time on the floor of Congress or in courts trying to unravel next year.

[00:23:16] That's why they have to be stopped now with good leadership from Congress that says we're watching you and we don't expect a single major rulemaking to come out of the IRS or the EPA or any of the other federal alphabet soup until next year when a new administration has a chance to reevaluate what's going on.

[00:23:40] Yeah, we're going to reject lame duck rulemaking is the point, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:23:45] Pete Sepp, today we express gratitude for God, family, and country and the freedoms that we have.

[00:23:51] Tomorrow we go to work, sir.

[00:23:53] That's right.

[00:23:55] Happy Thanksgiving, my friend.

[00:23:57] Happy Thanksgiving.

[00:23:59] Take care.

[00:23:59] Pete Sepp, National Taxpayers Union, NTU.org.

[00:24:03] They've got a partnership at every level to help you lower and create appropriate, proper taxation.

[00:24:13] Yeah, we've got to have taxation for the proper rule of government, folks, but it can be very, very small.

[00:24:19] And it can carry forward the most important elements of the proper rule of government, but you've got to manage it.

[00:24:24] We, the people, have to get that done.

[00:24:26] That's NTU.org.

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[00:28:59] Mr. President.

[00:29:00] Senator Kentucky.

[00:29:01] Reserving the right to object.

[00:29:02] I lived for four months in Asheville, worked at the VA hospital, still have fond feelings for western North Carolina.

[00:29:08] But the thing is, is the reason why we won't do this in a responsible way is because the Senate voted to send all your money to Ukraine.

[00:29:13] I mean, they voted to send $200 billion to Ukraine.

[00:29:16] I've been all over the mountains of Appalachia when I ask people, would you rather that your senators take care of you here in Asheville or here in Pikeville, here in Appalachia,

[00:29:25] or would you rather them send your money to Ukraine?

[00:29:27] I don't get anybody wanting to send a penny to Ukraine.

[00:29:30] Look, you can have all kinds of sympathy in the world for Ukraine, a hostility towards Russia being the aggressor nation, but we don't have the money.

[00:29:35] We're $2 trillion in the hole.

[00:29:37] Interest this year is going to be $1 trillion.

[00:29:39] And as far as passing this, I'm willing to let it pass today.

[00:29:41] He's going to object to passing his own bill today simply because it gets paid for.

[00:29:47] I'm willing to let the bill pass, but take some of the fluff and boondoggle subsidies from the Green New Deal and put it into here.

[00:29:54] The money's sitting here.

[00:29:55] We put it into here for disasters.

[00:29:57] We help Asheville today.

[00:30:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show.

[00:30:23] We are indeed live on this sacred day.

[00:30:29] Happy Thanksgiving 2024 from Team Liberty Roundtable Live in the humble idea of George Washington.

[00:30:39] It's a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts.

[00:30:47] Yeah, the favors of Almighty God and the blessing that we have to create the proper role of limited constitutional government.

[00:30:55] George Washington's farewell or not farewell is Thanksgiving proclamation of October 3rd, 1789.

[00:31:04] So when they tell you that I'm anti-government, just put that in their face.

[00:31:07] Tell them to put that in their pipe and smoke it.

[00:31:09] I stand for the proper role of constitutional government, and I stand with General George Washington and looking to God Almighty for solutions.

[00:31:16] With that, Brian Rust, FreewaterQuinco.com.

[00:31:20] Welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live, and happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, sir.

[00:31:24] Hey, thanks, Sam.

[00:31:25] Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

[00:31:27] And I like that address.

[00:31:29] You stand with George Washington and our early forefathers and what they were trying to accomplish.

[00:31:37] Absolutely.

[00:31:39] That'll take on the anti-government lies, right?

[00:31:42] That will take on the—no doubt about it.

[00:31:46] I'm just telling you, I stand for the proper role of government.

[00:31:48] Me and General George Washington, we're both in.

[00:31:52] I love it.

[00:31:53] Let me get on one of those boats.

[00:31:56] Let's cross the Delaware.

[00:31:59] Amen to that.

[00:32:00] Hey, there's several things that I want to kind of cover for Thanksgiving.

[00:32:05] I want to get into a couple of things related to your family and what you guys do and gratitude and what you kind of think of, you know, your thoughts for Thanksgiving.

[00:32:13] You know, you go around the dinner table and kind of say, hey, you know, what are you grateful for and all that kind of stuff.

[00:32:18] But before we do that, I want an honest money report.

[00:32:21] It's kind of interesting.

[00:32:21] We have a pause on the changing of spot for gold and silver in the United States, but around the world it continues, right?

[00:32:29] Yeah.

[00:32:30] Yeah.

[00:32:30] The world continues to forge ahead.

[00:32:32] We see those markets.

[00:32:34] That's why it's kind of—we look at these markets on a world scale because, realistically, you know, all these markets really kind of can affect people's bottom line.

[00:32:45] I mean, if they're investing in other countries' currency or if they're engaged in corporate or stocks or whatever from corporate earnings throughout the world.

[00:32:56] So, metals as well.

[00:32:58] I mean, it's—we see these countries.

[00:33:00] We talk about these countries on a world scale and these central banks on a world scale and how they kind of, you know, are manipulating or controlling these markets and who's buying up.

[00:33:11] You know, we read into the effect of what country's taking gold or buying up gold.

[00:33:16] How much are they buying or silver?

[00:33:18] So, all these things come into play.

[00:33:21] Absolutely.

[00:33:22] All right.

[00:33:23] What's gold and silver looking at right now?

[00:33:26] So, we're at $2,639 today.

[00:33:31] $2,639 even for gold, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:33:35] And that hasn't changed a whole lot recently, has it?

[00:33:38] But it's—I mean, think about it.

[00:33:39] It's well above $2,000, and it's been so for a long time.

[00:33:44] Yeah, the strength of that just shows realistically if they can't—if they can't control that market.

[00:33:51] So, usually in these metals, our government and entities like these central banks, they try to manipulate these markets because they play the game on paper.

[00:34:01] And we—and that's a scary game.

[00:34:04] And as we can see, that paper is so—we're so far in debt paper currency-wise, fiat currency we call it.

[00:34:12] And that's—they're allowed to do that.

[00:34:14] So, they're—as they use the paper game, these big central banks and major players make hundreds of millions in dollars.

[00:34:24] They're fined because, oh, it's illegal.

[00:34:26] So, they're fined.

[00:34:27] But that's okay.

[00:34:28] They pay the fine because they're making billions on top of being fined hundreds of millions.

[00:34:33] So, it's—it's a game.

[00:34:36] And they're playing it even on the holiday, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:34:39] That's kind of the point.

[00:34:40] That's for sure.

[00:34:41] Hey, Brian, what do you and your family do for Thanksgiving primarily in unique traditions that you have, et cetera?

[00:34:48] We get together, you know, obviously with—with in-laws and so on.

[00:34:53] You have kind of some—some years you have your whole family here and other years you don't.

[00:34:58] But, yeah, we try to get together.

[00:34:59] In fact, I'll grab my grandkids here and we go out.

[00:35:04] And I—right next to the shop here is a Great Harvest bread.

[00:35:10] And so, when I close up for the day, I go over and buy his unsold bread.

[00:35:16] And then we—my grandkids and I—we drive around and try to find people that we can give, you know, give out to those that are perhaps homeless or on the street or without a meal and try to make something happen there.

[00:35:31] So it's kind of fun.

[00:35:32] I let them hand them out to these people so it helps them identify.

[00:35:37] There you have it.

[00:35:38] Good work, sir.

[00:35:39] That's a great tradition.

[00:35:40] And, you know, hey, it's a way to give back.

[00:35:44] You know, it's called Thanksgiving.

[00:35:46] And I know oftentimes we focus on the thanks part, and that's great.

[00:35:49] But what about the giving part?

[00:35:50] You know, are we giving to others?

[00:35:52] Are we paying it forward?

[00:35:52] And that's kind of the idea Brian's speaking of, and I commend him for it.

[00:35:56] As you go around the dinner table, you know, what do you say you're the most thankful for?

[00:36:00] I always say that I'm most thankful for plumbing, Brian.

[00:36:05] I mean, to me, plumbing is just a blessing and a half.

[00:36:08] You ever sat in the outhouse in the freezing cold?

[00:36:10] But I'm telling you right now, wow.

[00:36:13] Yeah, I've been there, done that.

[00:36:15] So I agree.

[00:36:18] Well, you know, it's—you know, I think if we can all—realistically,

[00:36:22] if we step back a little bit of our busy lives and so on and have an attitude of gratitude,

[00:36:27] there's so many things.

[00:36:29] There really is so many things that we can be thankful for.

[00:36:32] And as we sit down with family, I mean, we count our many blessings.

[00:36:36] I have—you know, I know you have a big family, Sam, and I have three kids and 12 grandkids.

[00:36:43] But realistically, you know, I look at family, and then I look at my neighbors and friends and so on,

[00:36:48] and there's—they bless me.

[00:36:50] I try to reach out and bless them, and I pray for that I have the help that I can continue to serve.

[00:36:56] I'm a big advocate of serving, you know, because it helps me feel better,

[00:37:02] and I think hopefully it helps them.

[00:37:04] And I think we don't have to wallow in our own—you know, we all have issues up and down.

[00:37:09] You know, we have heartaches and things that happen in our lives,

[00:37:14] but we can definitely go out and try to make life a little better for others,

[00:37:18] and whether it be my family or my neighbors, I can help.

[00:37:23] It's fun.

[00:37:25] There you have it.

[00:37:26] So I always say plumbing and electricity are the two things I'm the most grateful for.

[00:37:30] I mean, they keep—you know, people used to get sick because of sanitary conditions and everything else,

[00:37:34] and if you put electricity and plumbing together, you have changed the game, my friend.

[00:37:40] Boy, is that not true?

[00:37:42] I would back that, both those things.

[00:37:45] There again, they're so like vehicles.

[00:37:47] I'm grateful for my vehicle.

[00:37:49] You know, I think I'll have great grandparents or my early pioneer heritage there that if I get to the other side,

[00:37:58] they might smack me upside the head and say, man, you were complaining this, you know,

[00:38:03] that you had to walk a mile or something to do this or that,

[00:38:08] and you had it so easy is what they're going to say,

[00:38:10] and maybe smack me upside the head for my complaining over the years of time.

[00:38:15] Well, and then we've got to really focus on gratitude.

[00:38:19] We've got to think about Thanksgiving.

[00:38:20] Now, I used to have a kind of a dilemma, Brian,

[00:38:22] and my dilemma was I don't want to start celebrating Christmas until Thanksgiving's over

[00:38:26] because I don't want to cheat the Thanksgiving holiday,

[00:38:28] and I used to think that, and so I'm like, hey, let's wait until Thanksgiving.

[00:38:31] Let's celebrate that, give it its due, not eclipse it,

[00:38:34] but I've changed my mind about that,

[00:38:36] and the reason that I have is I kind of think, you know what?

[00:38:37] I can have the broader Christmas spirit,

[00:38:39] and I can let Thanksgiving and gratitude just be a greater focus on,

[00:38:43] in other words, it kind of augments and enhances the holiday.

[00:38:47] It's like Christmas plus on Thanksgiving as we kick off the whole holiday season,

[00:38:51] and I don't need to wait for one to end and the other to begin.

[00:38:54] They simply complement one another.

[00:38:56] What do you say?

[00:38:58] Yeah, I like it.

[00:38:59] I think that we can have a, you know, actually throughout the year,

[00:39:03] you can kind of make it kind of a,

[00:39:06] obviously it's not maybe a party day throughout the year or all the time and so on,

[00:39:12] but there's so many ways to be that you can take this holiday of Thanksgiving

[00:39:17] and kind of apply it almost every day or throughout your week

[00:39:23] and make it a Christmas all year long as a result of the Thanksgiving,

[00:39:29] like you said, the Thanksgiving attitude and giving and serving.

[00:39:34] Sure.

[00:39:34] You know what I like to do in the middle of the summer?

[00:39:36] I like to go into a drive-through, and then I like to do the pay it forward thing,

[00:39:40] but I tell the people that we're going to pay it forward to take care of the bill of the people behind us.

[00:39:45] And by the way, wish them a Merry Christmas for me, will you?

[00:39:49] And they laugh and go, are you serious?

[00:39:51] I'm like, yeah, but you got to tell them Merry Christmas, okay?

[00:39:53] The car in front of you paid your bill but said Merry Christmas.

[00:39:56] And so anyway, I do that.

[00:39:57] It's kind of weird.

[00:39:58] People think I'm an odd duck and everything.

[00:40:00] That's okay.

[00:40:00] But I'm just saying that's the kind of attitude that I'm hoping we'll have for the greatest country on the face of the earth.

[00:40:05] We are so blessed, Brian.

[00:40:07] Yeah, no doubt about it.

[00:40:09] And I like that, Sam.

[00:40:10] It's kind of fun to – well, and you see a little bit of that out there.

[00:40:14] I mean, I've seen others do that.

[00:40:16] I've done that.

[00:40:17] You're doing that.

[00:40:18] I mean, just that little act, it kind of can change a person's life and their demeanor,

[00:40:24] especially that day and so on.

[00:40:26] It's awesome.

[00:40:28] Everybody ought to try that.

[00:40:30] All right, sir.

[00:40:31] We're flat out of time.

[00:40:32] I know it's a short segment this time for the holiday, but thank you so much for your time.

[00:40:36] Go see your family and do what you do best, and we're grateful for you, and we'll chat next week, sir.

[00:40:41] Hey, thanks, Sam.

[00:40:41] You're doing a great job.

[00:40:43] Happy Thanksgiving to you and all your coworkers.

[00:40:45] Love you.

[00:40:46] Thank you, sir.

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[00:43:04] I got my dear friend Tim Starks on the radio with me.

[00:43:08] Happy Thanksgiving, my friend.

[00:43:11] Good morning, Sam.

[00:43:12] Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family and your family listeners.

[00:43:14] I was telling everybody that my favorite things to be grateful for for Thanksgiving is indoor plumbing and electricity, man.

[00:43:21] It's changed the game, buddy.

[00:43:23] I absolutely agree.

[00:43:25] The technology is nice.

[00:43:27] I mean, just think how the world was different without it.

[00:43:31] Our worlds are so different because of it.

[00:43:34] It's a blessing from sanitary conditions on forward, right?

[00:43:38] Yeah, you know, the one thing we have had, though, that hasn't changed is we do have Jesus Christ in our life,

[00:43:43] and I'm very thankful for that to stay.

[00:43:45] Amen to that.

[00:43:47] It is a Christ-centered reality check for Thanksgiving.

[00:43:50] In fact, George Washington's proclamation, we're going to talk about that next hour with Dr. Scott Bradley,

[00:43:55] and it really leads by that point that you're making is we need to be, you know,

[00:43:58] grateful for God Almighty and grateful that he allowed us to become free

[00:44:03] and institute the proper role of limited government, Tim.

[00:44:07] Absolutely.

[00:44:08] And thankful for people like you, Sam, who care about our country and informing us.

[00:44:14] Well, hey, I am grateful for those who listen, those who make it worth our while to focus on this,

[00:44:20] and together hopefully we can lift all boats, Tim.

[00:44:25] It takes a lot of hands, that's for sure.

[00:44:27] All right.

[00:44:28] When you go around the dinner table, what are you most thankful for?

[00:44:30] Jesus Christ?

[00:44:31] Was that what you're saying?

[00:44:33] You know, that, you know, I'm thankful for God and definitely thankful for family.

[00:44:38] We're getting ready to head over to my daughter's, and she just had number six grandchild,

[00:44:43] so we are very thankful for that.

[00:44:46] She's the biggest family in our group, so we meet over at her house.

[00:44:52] We all meet over there because of all the kids, and she's got the bigger house.

[00:44:56] So very thankful that we get to do that and have family in our life, that's for sure.

[00:45:02] Amen to that.

[00:45:04] There's a new representative in town.

[00:45:08] What's his name, Jamie?

[00:45:11] Jamison Greer.

[00:45:12] Jamison Greer is going to be the new trade representative, Tim.

[00:45:16] He was in the previous administration.

[00:45:18] In my mind, this is a piece of good news, though.

[00:45:20] This guy's got a lot of experience.

[00:45:22] He's a humble guy.

[00:45:23] This hasn't typically been kind of a high-profile job.

[00:45:29] It's been an important job, but kind of behind the scenes, as people kind of learn about it,

[00:45:32] as Trump focuses on tariffs more, it's becoming a more and more high-profile job.

[00:45:37] I think this is a good pick, Tim.

[00:45:39] I do, too.

[00:45:40] I mean, he was a chief of staff to the former USTR in Trump's first administration.

[00:45:47] Now he will be the USTR.

[00:45:51] And I think there's a lot of things that were really good when Trump was in office when it came to trade.

[00:45:58] There was a lot more evening out of the trade deficit from country to country.

[00:46:03] And I think there's a lot of misconception when people talk about tariffs.

[00:46:07] They don't understand what's going on.

[00:46:08] They just think, oh, Trump's going to put tariffs on everything that comes into our country,

[00:46:12] and we're not going to be able to afford anything.

[00:46:14] Everything's going to be expensive.

[00:46:15] And that's not the way I see it happening.

[00:46:17] And that wasn't the way it was last time.

[00:46:19] You've got to ask yourself, what is a tariff?

[00:46:21] The answer is it's an indirect tax.

[00:46:23] That's what the Founding Fathers advocated for as opposed to the direct taxes we have now.

[00:46:28] Tariffs are not a problem.

[00:46:29] If you decrease the direct burden or the tax burden on the American people proportionately,

[00:46:34] it won't be harmful at all.

[00:46:35] In fact, it'll be a blessing and a half.

[00:46:38] Well, and what it does is it encourages companies to take off the heavy tariffs that they have on our products going into their country,

[00:46:46] which doesn't allow us to export because no one wants our product because they put such heavy taxes on it.

[00:46:53] You've heard in the news where everybody's talking about Ford cars and how they're not sold in a lot of the countries because there's such a heavy tariff on them.

[00:47:00] The countries put so much tariff on them.

[00:47:02] It'd be like us buying a Lamborghini in this country.

[00:47:05] You know what I mean?

[00:47:05] It's like not to that extent, but you know what I'm saying.

[00:47:08] It would be an expensive car, a luxury car in the other countries.

[00:47:10] And I know it sounds crazy to think of that when we know that the Ford car or the GM cars is the average working family car.

[00:47:19] Amen to that.

[00:47:20] Ladies and gentlemen, businesses and countries don't pay taxes.

[00:47:24] People do.

[00:47:25] The only question is where you want the tax.

[00:47:27] Do you want it direct on your family?

[00:47:28] Have the IRS dig into your personal life?

[00:47:30] Or do you want it at the border where it doesn't directly affect any of us?

[00:47:34] That's the only question left.

[00:47:35] And then we'll Trump reduce all other taxes or other taxes proportionately to make it a, you know, zero sum game.

[00:47:42] In other words, hey, we're just shifting the burden and shifting it to the indirect founding father-esque approach.

[00:47:47] If we do that, it's going to be, I'm telling you, plumbing, electricity, and tariffs will become my favorite Thanksgiving appreciations.

[00:47:55] Tim, thanks for your time, sir.

[00:47:56] Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

[00:47:59] Thank you.

[00:48:00] You have a wonderful Thanksgiving too, Sam, and to all your listeners.

[00:48:03] We'll talk soon.

[00:48:04] All right.

[00:48:04] There you have it.

[00:48:05] James Edwards, are you with me, brother?

[00:48:07] Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

[00:48:09] Happy Thanksgiving to you, Sam.

[00:48:11] You are my family.

[00:48:12] You and Julie and all of yours.

[00:48:14] And, of course, the extended family here at the network, Jay and Liz and all of their team in Florida.

[00:48:20] It's great to be here with you any day, but especially on a day like Thanksgiving.

[00:48:25] All right.

[00:48:26] What about this idea that I'm saying, hey, I'm the most grateful for plumbing and electricity?

[00:48:31] Man, it's changed the game in the world, sir.

[00:48:34] I have no doubt about it.

[00:48:35] And there are some people that don't have that in Western North Carolina this Thanksgiving.

[00:48:40] But, yeah, I think when you look at it big picture, you got to go with that.

[00:48:44] That, I think, well, bigger picture, God.

[00:48:46] But slightly less big picture that.

[00:48:51] And then if you're on my level this morning with the Thanksgiving Day parade on and the den and the kids sitting on the couch,

[00:48:57] the thing I'm most thankful for in this moment is sweet potato casserole and corn casserole, which I'll be consuming in large quantities very soon.

[00:49:05] I saw it.

[00:49:06] It's in the prep stage right now.

[00:49:08] It's going to be put in the oven.

[00:49:09] We're doing Thanksgiving in a couple of hours here, a little matinee Thanksgiving around noontime.

[00:49:14] And I can't wait.

[00:49:15] My wife, I got to tell you, I got to brag on her for a second.

[00:49:18] She does the best turkey of any of the women that I've ever had in my family, going back to grandmothers and mom and some of the people on her side.

[00:49:25] She does this apple bourbon turkey.

[00:49:28] And I think, you know, the turkey has given you his ultimate sacrifice.

[00:49:31] So the least you could do is give him a drink before he goes into the oven.

[00:49:34] So we give him two cups of bourbon.

[00:49:36] And I don't know what it is about it, but it is just the best tasting turkey I've ever had.

[00:49:41] So she's been doing that for years now.

[00:49:42] Well, don't go on X after you eat the turkey like Kamala.

[00:49:45] And, you know, they say she was all drunk on X.

[00:49:47] Oh, I saw that.

[00:49:48] I saw that.

[00:49:49] Be careful, buddy.

[00:49:50] I saw that.

[00:49:51] I don't think that was an exaggeration at all.

[00:49:53] I think she was definitely on the sauce.

[00:49:57] Or something.

[00:49:58] Who knows what.

[00:49:59] And that's kind of the problem with some of these leaders and people.

[00:50:02] But you know what?

[00:50:03] On Thanksgiving, I'm grateful for this trade representative they're going to be putting in place to help Donald Trump.

[00:50:09] I kind of find it a blessing and a half.

[00:50:14] I want people to kind of understand that, you know what?

[00:50:18] This Jameson Greer guy is going to be a good pick.

[00:50:21] He'll focus on the office of trade representatives to literally deal appropriately with tariffs.

[00:50:27] Listen, if we reduce taxes, I mean, just imagine if we put tariffs in place and got rid of the IRS, James.

[00:50:32] What an opportunity.

[00:50:33] That's a gratitude for Thanksgiving, right?

[00:50:35] This absolutely goes back to Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan, this idea of, you know, protectionist trade policies.

[00:50:42] I think I know a lot of the people are sounding the alarm that this is going to, you know, raise prices for everybody.

[00:50:48] Raise prices what?

[00:50:49] More than what they have been in the last four years?

[00:50:51] I mean, I couldn't even imagine.

[00:50:52] But, no, this is a good thing.

[00:50:54] And I think, yes, if you want to look for things to be thankful for on this blessed holiday, politically speaking, I think, well, let's just look at it this way.

[00:51:02] I think there would be a lot more apprehension and trepidation had that election gone the other way.

[00:51:07] I think Thanksgiving would have a totally different feel for so many of us who have a healthy degree of skepticism for Trump on some levels,

[00:51:15] but are thankful for a lot of the things that we've seen so far in this transition.

[00:51:19] You just named another one.

[00:51:20] And then speaking of Thanksgiving, you mentioned, Sam, coming up in the next hour you're going to have Scott Bradley on.

[00:51:25] I actually had pulled up, and I'd intended to read it if people have never heard it before.

[00:51:31] You could do that in the next hour.

[00:51:33] The George Washington's Thanksgiving proclamation speech, it represents exactly the kind of nation we seek to restore here on Liberty News Radio.

[00:51:42] So I think everyone should read this with their families today.

[00:51:45] Sam, I'll email it to you.

[00:51:46] Maybe Scott can read it in the next hour.

[00:51:48] But then, of course, you know, Thanksgiving itself goes back 403 years this year.

[00:51:53] They don't know exactly when the first Thanksgiving celebration was.

[00:51:56] It was sometime between September and November of 1621.

[00:52:00] That's the one that's been handed down to us through the romantic pictures with the pilgrims and the Indians.

[00:52:06] And that was that one, 403 years we've been celebrating Thanksgiving.

[00:52:10] But when it got affixed to the last Thursday of November, that was in 1789.

[00:52:17] That was George Washington's official proclamation dedicating the last Thursday of November of that year in 1783 to a public day of Thanksgiving.

[00:52:25] And that's why still to this day we celebrate it when we do.

[00:52:30] And I definitely think you all should read that in the next hour, Sam.

[00:52:33] It is wonderful.

[00:52:35] Tell people what it is again and where they can get it.

[00:52:37] And this is George Washington's Thanksgiving proclamation speech.

[00:52:42] You can probably find it anywhere.

[00:52:43] But I post it every year at thepoliticalcesspool.org on Thanksgiving.

[00:52:47] So if you go to thepoliticalcesspool.org, you can find it.

[00:52:49] I know for sure.

[00:52:50] And the blog post reads simply, Happy Thanksgiving.

[00:52:53] And it's just the text of George Washington's speech.

[00:52:56] And I'm emailing it to Sam.

[00:52:58] And maybe he can send it over to Scott.

[00:52:59] Listen up, Dr. Bradley.

[00:53:01] We're going to break that down next hour with us for the first half hour.

[00:53:04] Then we're going to Governor Bradford's experiences about liberty versus socialism and how to make men free, if you will, or allow men to be free and use their agency properly.

[00:53:15] And then if we get time, we've got a Michael Medved truth about Thanksgiving piece to play.

[00:53:20] We've got a lot going on, James.

[00:53:21] I want to give a big old shout out to you and your family and wish you and yours a happy Thanksgiving, sir.

[00:53:27] Happy Thanksgiving to you.

[00:53:29] Definitely check that out.

[00:53:30] I mean, I say it's a speech.

[00:53:31] It's really only three paragraphs.

[00:53:32] But it's so wonderful.

[00:53:33] And it's just amazing.

[00:53:35] It's almost difficult to read in some parts because people write so much better now and spoke so much better then than they do now.

[00:53:41] Or at least my meager mind, you know, have to read it slowly to make sure I'm not butchering it because it's so poetic.

[00:53:47] But anyway, it's there.

[00:53:48] Happy Thanksgiving to you again, Sam.

[00:53:50] But to everyone out here as new media not only takes center stage, it has taken center stage in the wake of this last election.

[00:53:58] Now more than ever, shows like this are making a difference.

[00:54:01] Be sure to support Liberty News Radio and Sam Bushman.

[00:54:04] Thank you, Sam.

[00:54:04] All right.

[00:54:05] Try to stay off the turkey too much.

[00:54:07] We don't want you running around all hammered like Kamala Harris, James.

[00:54:09] Be careful, buddy.

[00:54:11] The oven burns it out.

[00:54:13] It burns it out.

[00:54:14] All right.

[00:54:14] There you go.

[00:54:15] Actually, what it does, ladies and gentlemen, just so you all understand,

[00:54:18] is it makes the turkey absolutely tender as could be.

[00:54:22] That's what it really does.

[00:54:24] All right.

[00:54:24] Thanks for being alongside with the ride.

[00:54:25] Happy Thanksgiving.

[00:54:26] Hour one in the can.

[00:54:27] Hour two coming up.

[00:54:28] We are live on this sacred gratitude holiday.

[00:54:31] And we hope you spend the time thinking about God, family, and country,

[00:54:34] and the things that are the most important.

[00:54:36] That's for sure.

[00:54:37] For James Edwards, Pete Sepp, Tim Starks, Brian Rust, God save the republic.

[00:54:45] Happy Thanksgiving.