Radio Show Hour 1 – 10/31/2024

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[00:01:08] Welcome to the broadcast.

[00:01:10] Oh, it's hard to say.

[00:01:11] Pre-election coverage, is that what we're talking about?

[00:01:14] I don't know, man.

[00:01:15] 44-plus million people have already voted, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:01:20] They usually say, what, 160 million people vote?

[00:01:23] Something like that?

[00:01:23] 150, 60 million people vote?

[00:01:26] So what's that?

[00:01:27] One-third have already voted, already at least.

[00:01:29] Gaining on it every single day.

[00:01:31] The number goes up.

[00:01:32] It is just shocking and scary.

[00:01:35] Pre-election coverage is hard to say when a third of the country, I guess, is post-election coverage for them.

[00:01:40] And we've got a whole weekend and several days before the election, right?

[00:01:44] Well, that's what we get when we violate, in my opinion, fundamental principles, ladies and gentlemen.

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[00:02:14] Our guest today, Mr. Carlton Bowen.

[00:02:17] He's running for Senate in the great state of Utah to be a U.S. senator.

[00:02:22] And, wow, just imagine if we got rid of Romney.

[00:02:26] And just imagine if we had a Carlton Bowen in his place.

[00:02:30] Now, Carlton is not a Republican or a Democrat.

[00:02:32] He's an independent American.

[00:02:34] And, you know, boy, howdy do we need more independent Americans.

[00:02:37] Carlton, welcome, sir.

[00:02:38] Well, thank you, Sam.

[00:02:40] Really appreciate being on your show and what you do with your show to help keep people informed, the positive solutions you offer.

[00:02:47] So thank you.

[00:02:48] Talk to me a little bit about independent Americans because, you know, on one hand, you've got to have a party or you can't even really hardly be on the ballot or just a nobody.

[00:02:56] Independent American is an attempt to say we're a party, but we're not really a party.

[00:03:00] We're more of a principled-based ideology that we stand for and with, right?

[00:03:06] Right, yeah.

[00:03:06] Well, and I am running to replace Mitt Romney, as you mentioned, for the U.S. Senate in Utah.

[00:03:11] I am running as an independent American.

[00:03:14] So the independent American party is the third largest party in Utah.

[00:03:18] We have over 85,000 registered voters.

[00:03:23] And up in Cache County, they did an article and said over 75,000 of those are active voters.

[00:03:31] It is a party.

[00:03:32] The founder, one of the founders, Will Christensen, used to say it's kind of the non-party party because they would almost prefer not to be a party if possible.

[00:03:42] But there are some benefits you get from being a party.

[00:03:46] One of the great things about the independent American party, though, is there are 15 principles, which you can find on their website, utahiap.org.

[00:03:55] Slow down.

[00:03:56] Utah IAP.org.

[00:03:59] Go ahead, sir.

[00:04:00] Yeah, just really, really a great party.

[00:04:04] And I'm happy to be aligned with them.

[00:04:05] And it was the only way I felt like there could be a pro-Trump option on the final ballot, just knowing that the Republican Party would most likely have an establishment Romney 2.0 type candidate, which they do with their nominee, John Curtis, who's a former Democrat and who's all about climate change.

[00:04:28] A lot of more leftist causes called for an impeachment inquiry of Trump, cited with Biden on exempting China from tariffs.

[00:04:37] Just not what you would expect from a Republican.

[00:04:39] And a huge red flag that this is a Romney 2.0 type candidate.

[00:04:44] So the independent American party is a great option.

[00:04:47] I do plan to remain an independent American, though, after this election.

[00:04:50] Like I said, they're a great group.

[00:04:51] And I want to help build this party.

[00:04:54] They're amazing.

[00:04:55] Well, and let's be clear.

[00:04:56] The party is only because of necessity.

[00:04:58] You've got to have a party to kind of coalesce around or it's, you know, you just had, you know, you get on the ballot.

[00:05:03] I mean, if you don't assign yourself to some kind of a party, you're I don't know what you are.

[00:05:06] You're just like a write in or it's very difficult.

[00:05:09] And in each state, it becomes even more difficult.

[00:05:11] Right.

[00:05:12] But if you if you put the independent American party label and I hate to use the word label, but there you go.

[00:05:19] So if you join that party, what you're really joining is this idea based on these principles, not so much a party per se.

[00:05:25] You're you're you're committing to the principles, which other parties have platforms, too, but they don't focus on their platforms.

[00:05:32] They just, you know, float out the platform and say, there we are.

[00:05:34] And then you're like, oh, that's great.

[00:05:36] I believe in that.

[00:05:36] And then they say one thing or, you know, the platform is one thing and they clearly do another.

[00:05:41] And the point of independent American is for that not to happen.

[00:05:44] Right.

[00:05:45] Well, that's right.

[00:05:46] We've had the same 15 principles since our party's founding in about 1992.

[00:05:53] You don't just put your finger in the wind and every time we update your platform to be whatever the populist, whatever the democracy wants.

[00:06:00] No, no.

[00:06:01] It's actually based on principles of government that persist throughout time.

[00:06:07] These were elucidated by President Ezra Tapp-Benson, who was also secretary of agriculture in the Eisenhower administration.

[00:06:15] But he had a really good understanding of government.

[00:06:19] And so some of his teachings and writings and also Hans Verland Andersen, who also had written a book on the proper role of government.

[00:06:30] Some of these principles are what these 15 principles are based on.

[00:06:33] So just kind of timeless principles that we expect and hope will remain the party's platform, if you will, throughout time.

[00:06:42] It is a pro-life, pro, you know, a national defense strong enough to protect our country.

[00:06:48] Our rights come from God, not government.

[00:06:51] And governments have an obligation to protect our rights of life, liberty, and to own and control property.

[00:06:58] Just to give you an idea of what the 15 principles are, that's what it's about.

[00:07:03] All right.

[00:07:04] I want to talk about really kind of your phrase of who you are.

[00:07:10] Carlton E. Bowen.

[00:07:12] I'm running for the U.S. Senate in Utah to replace Mitt Romney.

[00:07:17] Amen to that.

[00:07:19] One of three candidates who will be on all Utah ballots in November, meaning coming up just in a few days now.

[00:07:25] Carlton for U.S. Senate dot com is where you can learn more about his campaign.

[00:07:31] Okay.

[00:07:33] Yeah, that's the number four.

[00:07:34] Four, the number, Senate dot com.

[00:07:37] Now, then you say this.

[00:07:38] Mr. Bowen, the only independent American, quote, pro-Trump veteran and true conservative candidate in the race.

[00:07:49] Let's talk about that because we thank you for your service as a veteran, but I want to focus on this pro-Trump thing.

[00:07:55] You know, people in Utah are really confused on the Trump thing for a bunch of reasons.

[00:08:00] One, he's so, you know, in your face.

[00:08:02] He's back and forth.

[00:08:04] He's dirty and crude.

[00:08:05] And he's all these things.

[00:08:06] And a lot of people are just like can't do it.

[00:08:08] The problem that they have in my mind is where do you go, Harris?

[00:08:12] Where do you go?

[00:08:13] You know, some of these other clown candidates that are flat out socialist like a Jill Stein or some of these other people.

[00:08:19] There's really nowhere to go.

[00:08:20] But they have this dilemma and they're kind of deceived.

[00:08:23] It's like a Mitt Romney would rather back a candidate that's Democrat, clearly.

[00:08:29] And so would John Curtis, by the way, rather than a Trump.

[00:08:32] They get stuck on, oh, he's crude, always, you know, whatever they want to say.

[00:08:37] But they forget.

[00:08:38] They kind of lose the forest of the trees, Carlton.

[00:08:42] Well, yeah, I really think that's true.

[00:08:44] Well, number one, let me say I think President Trump did an amazing job for his four years as president.

[00:08:49] I mean, conservatives have been trying for had been trying for over 50 years to overturn Roe v. Wade.

[00:08:57] And the fact that he got that done with the three Supreme Court nominees that he appointed is just incredible.

[00:09:03] Getting us out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, getting us out of the Paris Climate Accord here in Utah, rolling back the Bears Ears and Grand Staircase designations,

[00:09:14] which had just been done with, you know, the signature of an outgoing president that locked up public roads and privately held lands that were within the monuments.

[00:09:25] Rolling those back, I just think, was incredible for Utah and something that at the time Utah, the Utah legislature and the Utah governor really wanted.

[00:09:36] And, you know, it's not like Utah is a huge state, but, you know, Trump showed up for us and went to bat.

[00:09:43] And I think that says a lot.

[00:09:45] To your point, Sam, these Utahns that are against Trump, I really think it's a lot about hate.

[00:09:52] And I didn't realize that so much until I was actually on the campaign trail going to these different Meet the Candidate events.

[00:10:01] And, you know, every now and then you run into some people that are pretty liberal.

[00:10:05] But almost without fail, you know, I don't know, probably two thirds of the time, just the fact that you're pro-Trump or say you're pro-Trump, they're just immediately triggered.

[00:10:15] And you see their emotional brain take over from their reasoning brain.

[00:10:20] They don't want to talk about facts or listen to facts.

[00:10:23] They get emotional and uptight.

[00:10:27] And I think that that's really, I mean, there's been this phrase, TDS, but I think there's Trump derangement syndrome.

[00:10:34] I think there's actually really a lot of truth to it.

[00:10:37] Go ahead and skip the break, Liz.

[00:10:38] This is good.

[00:10:38] So you've either got the, and that's the sad part about America, too.

[00:10:42] You've either got the never Trump and the always Trump camps, right?

[00:10:47] Yeah.

[00:10:48] Yeah.

[00:10:48] Well, I don't know about always Trump.

[00:10:51] I think there's a lot of people that support Trump.

[00:10:53] They just recognize what he's done.

[00:10:54] But I don't think it's like they support him no matter what.

[00:10:58] And, you know, some people, yeah, they don't like his tweets or whatever.

[00:11:01] But, I mean, he's a fighter.

[00:11:03] That's what I love about Trump.

[00:11:04] And you need a fighter.

[00:11:05] I mean, you look at how they've come after him before, during and after he was president.

[00:11:10] You know, and who else could withstand that?

[00:11:13] Who else could continue to fight and be running again, hopefully on the verge of winning again?

[00:11:18] I just think it's incredible.

[00:11:21] I understand.

[00:11:22] I just find that interesting.

[00:11:23] I got on a radio broadcast with somebody the other day, and I basically brought up a couple of things about Trump that concerned me.

[00:11:28] And basically the guy responds, and he says, Sam, I don't want to hear any negative about Trump.

[00:11:32] We're trying to win an election, and any negative just doesn't do us any good.

[00:11:36] I guess my view on that is I understand the point.

[00:11:39] But at the same time, if we're going to maintain credibility, we can't be involved in partisan politics.

[00:11:45] We can't put the party above people.

[00:11:47] We can't put politics above principle.

[00:11:49] We can't put, you know, money above morality.

[00:11:53] Okay, we can't do those things if we're going to maintain our credibility.

[00:11:56] Now, 200 newspapers just said we're not going to endorse a candidate anymore.

[00:12:00] And Jeff Bezos took the lead on this, and he basically said, look, and I'm not really a Jeff Bezos fan, by the way.

[00:12:05] There's a lot of things he does running Amazon that really concern me.

[00:12:08] But what he said was, this is a bitter pill to swallow for you guys, but look, you cannot pretend that you're neutral and that you're the media, the who, what, when, where, why of a story,

[00:12:17] and then double down and endorse a candidate with such vitriol and hatred towards the other side.

[00:12:23] It's a credibility crisis.

[00:12:24] And if we're going to ever come back from that and have credibility, we've got to step back from this and be a little bit neutral.

[00:12:29] For a news organization, I get the point.

[00:12:33] But we can't be the same as them, just the opposite, right?

[00:12:36] And so I'm willing to give Trump plenty of credit when he does what's right, absolutely every time.

[00:12:41] And your point about his pro-life stance, not only did he overturn Roe versus Wade, which is wonderful.

[00:12:46] We just need the states to stand up for pro-life now.

[00:12:49] But the other thing he did is he spoke to the pro-life groups.

[00:12:52] Every January they have a pro-life huge event in Washington, D.C., and most presidents, even the so-called presidents that were Republicans that were pro-life was part of their platform,

[00:13:03] they wouldn't go speak at that conference.

[00:13:05] Well, Trump clearly did, and he was the first president in my life in time to do so.

[00:13:09] So you're right.

[00:13:10] He deserves a lot of credit for some of those things.

[00:13:14] Yeah.

[00:13:16] Well, the news media needs to remain neutral.

[00:13:18] I mean, as a candidate, I'm definitely committed to principles, but, I mean, I don't need to remain neutral.

[00:13:23] I think voters need to know where I stand, you know, and so I've been open about that.

[00:13:29] No, I don't think you need to remain neutral.

[00:13:31] I think as a candidate, you can back and support whoever you want for good reason.

[00:13:35] You're, you know, you're even crossing partisan lines, which I find impressive, too, to say, hey, I'm an independent American, but I support Donald Trump.

[00:13:41] He's a Republican.

[00:13:42] But I don't support in Utah the Republican because he's a clown pretend conservative.

[00:13:47] He's not really that way.

[00:13:48] Look at his record.

[00:13:49] He used to be a Democrat.

[00:13:50] He's for climate change.

[00:13:52] You're talking about my U.S. Senate opponent, John Curtis.

[00:13:54] That's right.

[00:13:55] Okay.

[00:13:56] But so you have the ability to cross these partisan lines, and that's kind of showing that the party's not bigger than the principal, right?

[00:14:03] Right.

[00:14:04] Yeah, that's true.

[00:14:06] Yep.

[00:14:06] It's all about principles, and that's why I think it's so important for Utah voters to realize what's going on, to realize what's at stake in this election.

[00:14:14] It's a six-year term for U.S. Senator.

[00:14:17] If they want something different than what they've had with Mitt Romney, they really need to have the courage to, like you said, cross party lines in this case, in this race at least, so that they can have better representation.

[00:14:29] But ultimately, of course, that's up to each individual voter.

[00:14:34] I agree.

[00:14:35] It's up to each individual for sure, and it's something that you have to figure out in your own mind.

[00:14:39] I reject the lesser of two evils doctrine, and that's kind of where I am personally with Trump to a great degree.

[00:14:47] I mean, he does a lot of good, but, man, there's a lot of concern that I have with Trump too.

[00:14:51] The problem with this right now is there's not a single person that I can vote to.

[00:14:54] All I'd have to do is write in a candidate, Carlton.

[00:14:58] And since you're running for seven, I can't write your name in, right?

[00:15:04] I really like Joel Skousen.

[00:15:06] You know, like if I wasn't going to vote for Trump, that's who I would vote for.

[00:15:10] But as I've said, I'm pro-Trump.

[00:15:13] I just think with everything he's done and he has a proven track record for just a lot.

[00:15:20] Okay, there's like some people, there's things I criticize him for, and it's like, okay, but when was the last time that we had someone push us as far in the direction we want to go as he has on so many different issues?

[00:15:34] That's kind of where I'm at.

[00:15:36] Also, who else could withstand the attacks?

[00:15:39] I just don't know.

[00:15:40] Joel Skousen is amazing, and I think he has integrity, but I don't think he's a billionaire.

[00:15:45] Like, I don't know what he would do to defend himself against all these lawsuits like they've come after Trump with.

[00:15:52] So I just think Joel's a man of great integrity who I think is amazing.

[00:15:57] He's only on the bout in a few states, but just based on these other factors, you know, proven track record, ability to withstand this, who's actually, you know, done so much in this fight.

[00:16:09] That's why I'm endorsing Trump.

[00:16:11] Now, understand 44 million Americans have already cast an early ballot so far this election cycle.

[00:16:21] It just shows how much voting patterns have changed since 2020, and most of the people who are voting early have done it again, meaning they did it before.

[00:16:30] New York Times with this piece.

[00:16:31] What do you think about 44 million people already voting?

[00:16:34] We're trying to have this discussion to help people know who you are, what the battles are, who Trump is.

[00:16:40] You know, we're still learning about the candidates right now, but a third of the nation's already voted.

[00:16:46] Well, I'm glad that the Republicans finally woke up to what the current election state is, because I know in past elections, even when they expected the big red wave, like early voting is already open.

[00:16:59] People already have their ballots and then they're starting to do stuff like halfway through the election.

[00:17:04] I'm like, no, you needed to be doing this stuff like a month ago before people got their ballots, before, you know, and I know in my race, yeah, there's some things I'm just now doing because, you know, you do what you can when you can.

[00:17:16] But it seemed like the Republicans were almost asleep about how the laws had been changed.

[00:17:23] But, yeah, to your point, Sam, we need to go back to where we have instead of vote by mail ballots, that's an optional thing, not that everyone gets sent a ballot willy nilly and that there's actually an election day and that people take election serious again.

[00:17:40] Because, frankly, statistically, people take elections less serious with the mail-in ballots.

[00:17:45] I mean, it's almost like just getting a piece of junk mail, right?

[00:17:49] And honestly, sadly, it's not that different, too.

[00:17:52] You don't know what happens to your ballot once you put it in the box.

[00:17:55] I mean, all along that path, something could happen to it.

[00:17:59] It could get lost by the mail carrier.

[00:18:00] It could get stolen out of your box.

[00:18:03] You know, it could be mishandled when it gets delivered by the people that are supposed to count it.

[00:18:08] It could get destroyed in the mail processing thing.

[00:18:12] And we're talking about a vote.

[00:18:13] I mean, this is something –

[00:18:14] Yeah, it could burn to the ground.

[00:18:16] We just saw in two states where this guy is literally burning ballot boxes to the ground, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:18:22] To angry that had some ability to put an incendiary device in some – you know, I don't even understand how all that goes on.

[00:18:31] But, I mean, all kind of things.

[00:18:32] The custody of the ballot is the real concern.

[00:18:35] Oh, yeah.

[00:18:36] I mean, the sanctity of the ballot.

[00:18:38] We need to have a process, again, and we've had these processes in the past, but for some reason we've abandoned them.

[00:18:44] We need to reinstitute those processes where people can have faith and trust in the elections because the process is sound and is more foolproof.

[00:18:55] There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:18:57] It's hard to know really what to focus on the most in this election, but I want to focus on a couple of things.

[00:19:04] There's a question of what are the most important issues that Americans are concerned about in your mind, Carlton?

[00:19:08] Well, I think – so I'm running on a platform of traditional values, traditional money, and our tradition of freedom.

[00:19:17] But the traditional values platform I think is something that people are really concerned about.

[00:19:23] Maybe I could just share real quickly what that platform pillar is.

[00:19:27] Sure.

[00:19:28] So traditional values, it means – it's so simple and basic, it's almost silly that we need to talk about it in a campaign.

[00:19:37] But we are at a point in our nation's history where we need to stand up for what we believe in and be silent no more.

[00:19:44] So boys are boys and girls are girls.

[00:19:47] There are only two genders, male and female.

[00:19:50] Marriage is between a man and a woman.

[00:19:52] And families matter a lot and ideally have a mom and a dad, married, trying, true.

[00:19:58] Don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, don't kill.

[00:20:02] Honesty and integrity still matter.

[00:20:05] I think that to a lot of voters, they're concerned about men competing in women's sports.

[00:20:11] They're concerned about an education establishment that their kids are in that's trying to deceive parents and force gender transitions or changing gender on their kids.

[00:20:25] Kids, we're talking about children in the school system, and rightfully so.

[00:20:29] I mean, parents should be concerned about that.

[00:20:32] But I really think that the traditional values is the biggest issue in the election this year.

[00:20:40] All right.

[00:20:40] The reason I ask the question is I got an interesting idea, and I went into chat GPT, chat GPT for Turbo.

[00:20:49] And I said, hey, man, what are the most important issues to voters in modern-day America?

[00:20:56] And it said this.

[00:20:57] In the politically charged atmosphere of the United States, several key issues consistently poll and sow division among the citizens.

[00:21:09] Here's the top ten issues.

[00:21:11] One, health care, the debate over cost, etc.

[00:21:15] Two, immigration.

[00:21:17] Three, gun control.

[00:21:19] Four, abortion.

[00:21:21] Five, climate change.

[00:21:23] Six, racial justice.

[00:21:25] Seven, economic equality.

[00:21:27] Eight, education.

[00:21:29] Nine, election integrity and voting.

[00:21:31] Ten, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender rights.

[00:21:34] Now, I don't necessarily agree with that order, and I don't really agree that those are the top issues necessarily.

[00:21:39] But that's what the blogosphere thinks.

[00:21:42] In other words, chat GPT is merely a mirroring of the Internet, the whole world out there in cyberspace kind of a thing.

[00:21:48] It's a summation of that.

[00:21:49] It'll grab that and say, hey, based on scientific data or based on mathematical data, these are the most popular issues talked about or these are the polls that are taken.

[00:21:58] Okay.

[00:21:59] I find that fascinating.

[00:22:01] What do you think of the list?

[00:22:04] Well, and you say chat GPT is a summation of what's going on in society, but only to a degree.

[00:22:09] I mean, chat GPT is biased.

[00:22:13] That number 10, you know, LGBTQ plus, you know, issues, it frames it, you know, as a pro LGBTQ plus wording.

[00:22:25] And so chat GPT is definitely very biased, but it can also be, you know, used by people of all political persuasions, I think, to save time and to good effect.

[00:22:40] But, yeah, I, yeah.

[00:22:42] Yeah, I don't agree with the list completely either.

[00:22:44] I'm just telling you, that's the interesting thing.

[00:22:46] That's what it basically comes back and says.

[00:22:47] And I think a lot of those are hot topics.

[00:22:49] See, I would rearrange these and say this.

[00:22:51] To me, the pro-life issue is the top of the list.

[00:22:54] And that's why Donald Trump, even in my opinion, is in the running because he's been stronger on that than any president in my lifetime.

[00:23:01] And he's got the record to prove it, right?

[00:23:03] Well, and what's interesting is they don't have the economy or inflation on that list, which, again, I think chat GPT is biased.

[00:23:10] I think.

[00:23:11] Well, they kind of do.

[00:23:12] I honestly think.

[00:23:13] They say economic inequality, discussions around wealth distribution, tax policies, minimum wage laws, and social welfare programs are continually divisive.

[00:23:27] So they have it.

[00:23:27] Not in the way that you and I would have it, though.

[00:23:30] They everything that I have here is is in the divide camp.

[00:23:33] Right.

[00:23:34] Right.

[00:23:34] And phrase, frankly, to be pro-socialist and pro-division.

[00:23:40] Right.

[00:23:40] I think after the traditional values issue that the economy actually is the top issue.

[00:23:46] And that's why actually my second campaign pillar is traditional money.

[00:23:50] Would it be OK to just take a minute to share that to them?

[00:23:52] It would.

[00:23:53] But we've got a hard break.

[00:23:54] Can you stay with me longer?

[00:23:55] I know I told you 30 minutes.

[00:23:56] Let's take 45, though, and we'll dig in.

[00:23:58] OK.

[00:23:59] I can do only five more minutes probably after the break if that's OK.

[00:24:04] All right.

[00:24:04] Hang tight, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:24:06] Carlton Bowen with me.

[00:24:07] Carlton E. Bowen.

[00:24:08] He's running for the U.S. Senate in the great state of Utah to be a U.S. Senator for Utah.

[00:24:13] Carlton for U.S. Senate dot com.

[00:24:15] That's the number four.

[00:24:17] Mr. Bowen, the only independent American pro-Trump veteran and true conservative candidate in the race.

[00:24:25] You've got to check that out.

[00:24:25] All right.

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[00:30:37] Oh, sorry about that.

[00:30:39] Happy to have you along, my fellow American Sam Bushman live on your radio.

[00:30:42] Glad to have you back.

[00:30:43] I had my mic muted.

[00:30:45] Mute-mited?

[00:30:45] Wow.

[00:30:47] Anyway, Carlton E. Bowen with me, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:30:49] He's running for Senate for the great state of Utah to be a U.S. Senator.

[00:30:53] Carlton 4, that's the number 4, carlton4ussenate.com.

[00:30:57] And right before the break, I kind of mentioned to him that, you know what, these topics from

[00:31:00] ChatGPT, they got 10 top topics, but they're all based on this idea of the divide.

[00:31:05] Oh, everybody's divided on this and that and everything else.

[00:31:07] They put this list together and everything else.

[00:31:10] Carlton basically believes the economy is vital and one of the top issues.

[00:31:13] But rather than approach it from this divide issue, hey, everybody's this and I'm that,

[00:31:18] and he approaches it more from a solutions-oriented, hey, here's what we can do to restore the republic.

[00:31:23] Here's what we can do to bring prosperity to everyone.

[00:31:27] Carlton?

[00:31:28] Yeah, it's principles-based, and I think that's what serves our country best and our state.

[00:31:35] So the platform pillar is called traditional money, and traditional money means more than using the gold and silver coin

[00:31:43] that our founding fathers envisioned and that the U.S. Constitution still requires.

[00:31:47] It also means a free market capitalist economy, not crony capitalism, not socialism, not communism,

[00:31:56] but a true free market where consumers, not government, choose the winners and losers,

[00:32:02] and where it's a level playing field whether you're big or small.

[00:32:06] It also means fiscal responsibility and discipline with balanced federal budgets and reducing the national debt.

[00:32:15] Isn't that refreshing, ladies and gentlemen?

[00:32:19] Go ahead, sir.

[00:32:20] Yeah, and I think that there are several things in there that help with inflation and stuff like that.

[00:32:25] Obviously, if we have a balanced budget, we're reducing federal spending, which is helping a lot on the inflation front.

[00:32:32] Let me also say, though, I really support President Trump's economic platform.

[00:32:37] He's actually trying to go back to what the founders envisioned as far as funding our federal government with revenue tariffs

[00:32:44] and also the energy dominance.

[00:32:47] I think these two things are huge if he's able to implement them.

[00:32:52] I think they'll help our country be wealthy again.

[00:32:56] A lot of people don't realize when we de-industrialize, we were basically exporting what creates wealth for our nation.

[00:33:02] And I think some of the things he's proposing will actually bring manufacturing and production back to our shores,

[00:33:09] which is what creates wealth for our people and for our nation.

[00:33:12] You have a vague grandma Swami caught it best when he said, you know what, burn, drill, frack, let's get it done.

[00:33:17] Donald Trump's saying we need to open up energy and not be dependent on these other nations and dirty their nations.

[00:33:23] Let's run the most clean plans we can.

[00:33:25] Let's be environmentally friendly, but let's go ahead and use our resources in a meaningful way.

[00:33:29] He also said, let's get rid of the income tax and move directly to tariffs.

[00:33:33] That's the way the government used to be funded.

[00:33:36] Carlton?

[00:33:37] Yeah, that's how it was intended.

[00:33:38] I mean, income tax was specifically prohibited by the text of the original Constitution.

[00:33:44] That's why they had to try to do the 16th Amendment to even allow income tax.

[00:33:50] I think it's been really negative for our country.

[00:33:55] Only about half of people pay income tax.

[00:33:57] So there's deception going on.

[00:33:59] But then they do pay other taxes that are withheld, like Social Security and stuff like that.

[00:34:04] And they don't even realize how many thousands of dollars they're paying in those taxes a lot of times.

[00:34:10] It's just a deceptive system.

[00:34:13] All right, sir.

[00:34:14] We know you've got to fly.

[00:34:15] You've got other meetings today.

[00:34:16] But I wanted to grab you and have you just kind of chime in really quick.

[00:34:19] Give us your platform pillars one more time and then your website.

[00:34:24] Yeah.

[00:34:25] Traditional money.

[00:34:27] I'm sorry.

[00:34:27] Traditional values.

[00:34:28] Traditional money.

[00:34:29] And our tradition of freedom.

[00:34:31] I'm the website's Carlton.

[00:34:33] The number for us Senate dot com.

[00:34:35] I'm for the U.S. Constitution.

[00:34:37] And I'm the only pro-Trump conservative option on the ballot.

[00:34:41] My GOP opponent actually called for an impeachment inquiry of Trump.

[00:34:45] He's a former Democrat.

[00:34:46] His big cause is climate change.

[00:34:49] Bad news for Utah.

[00:34:51] Romney 2.0.

[00:34:51] But there is another option.

[00:34:54] Conservative, pro-Trump, pro-Constitution, pro-values.

[00:34:58] And for Utahns, Carlton will be on the ballot on Tuesday.

[00:35:03] Thank you so much, Carlton.

[00:35:04] Now, some people say to me, Sam, why don't you have all the other candidates?

[00:35:06] My response is, come on.

[00:35:08] I'm ready.

[00:35:09] You want to call me up?

[00:35:10] We'll put you on the radio, 866-986-NEWS.

[00:35:13] And, you know, why don't I reach out to the other candidates?

[00:35:15] Because they never return my calls.

[00:35:17] That's why.

[00:35:17] And if they want to come on the radio, I'll be glad to give them equal time.

[00:35:20] And I'll be glad to ask them similar questions.

[00:35:23] I'll be glad to bring up this chat GPT report and let them decide what issues are the most important.

[00:35:27] But I can tell you this.

[00:35:29] Curtis, his most important issue is this climate change issue.

[00:35:31] And his important issue is pretend he's for Trump, but he's really not planned.

[00:35:35] I agree.

[00:35:36] Romney 2.0.

[00:35:37] The Democrat in the race, her plan is just to promote the environment and put everything on that environmental altar.

[00:35:43] Which I think is a bad news as well.

[00:35:45] Like the whole abortion.

[00:35:46] Yeah, the abortion issue.

[00:35:48] The abortion issue, too.

[00:35:49] Like the Democrat, obviously, is pro-abortion.

[00:35:51] She was asked in the debate, you know.

[00:35:54] But you've got to say she's pro-death because that's what it really is.

[00:35:57] Abortion is death.

[00:35:58] Murder.

[00:35:59] Right.

[00:36:00] You know, and she was asked at nine months.

[00:36:01] And instead of saying, no, I definitely wouldn't do an abortion in nine months, she shared some story about a friend that got an abortion.

[00:36:08] But, yeah, there's some huge differences, questions, too, about whether Curtis is really pro-life since they're, you know, his staffers and stuff have been saying that he's actually not pro-life.

[00:36:18] But he kind of has to say he's pro-life just to, you know.

[00:36:22] Well, it's kind of like how the Republican platform backed off and they don't have near the pro-life stances that they had in previous platforms.

[00:36:28] They've kind of all backed off of it.

[00:36:30] And so they want to straddle this.

[00:36:31] We're pro-life.

[00:36:32] We're just not too much pro-life.

[00:36:33] But the Independent American Party is pro-life.

[00:36:37] Sam, thank you for all you do.

[00:36:38] Keep up the great work.

[00:36:39] God bless you, sir.

[00:36:40] Thank you.

[00:36:41] All right.

[00:36:41] There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:36:44] Wow.

[00:36:45] Brian Rust isn't with us today because he's a little bit ill, so our prayers are with him.

[00:36:51] And we are going to have our dear other friend on as well, but he couldn't make it, too.

[00:36:56] So there you go.

[00:36:58] I find that very, very interesting indeed.

[00:37:01] I want to talk about, what, honest money for a second?

[00:37:06] Because, you know, Brian Rust normally is with me this hour and we talk about honesty and money.

[00:37:10] And, you know, we call it the, what do we call this thing?

[00:37:15] Honest money report?

[00:37:16] Yeah.

[00:37:16] It's called the honest money report, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:37:19] And we have Brian Rust on talking about money and the importance of honest money.

[00:37:26] And Carlton Bowen really highlighted that very well.

[00:37:29] He wants to return to honest money.

[00:37:32] He wants to abolish and audit the Federal Reserve.

[00:37:35] He wants to return to constitutional currency, gold and silver.

[00:37:38] I commend him for all that.

[00:37:39] Anyway, so I wanted to kind of whip out Brian Rust and team and what they focus on a real lot, which is honest money.

[00:37:49] Honest money report, gold right now is at $2,770.90.

[00:37:53] So $2,770 for an ounce of gold and 90 cents.

[00:37:57] Silver is $3,347.

[00:38:00] So $3,347 for an ounce of silver.

[00:38:05] I believe that silver is way more undervalued than gold, right?

[00:38:13] Anyway, the Brian Rust family over three generations has been working hard to educate customers about precious metals.

[00:38:22] And it used to be Rust, coin and gift.

[00:38:24] Now the company is called FreeWaterCoinCo.com.

[00:38:29] That's FreeWaterCoinCo.com.

[00:38:30] And I want you to get a hold of them.

[00:38:32] They've got a lot of great stuff.

[00:38:35] One of the things that I really think is important that Brian and crew have is they've got a – what do you even call this?

[00:38:46] They've got a plan right now where you can get nickels.

[00:38:50] And most people don't even realize this.

[00:38:52] But, you know, you've got the quarters, dimes, and halves.

[00:38:56] They call it junk silver.

[00:38:57] What is it?

[00:38:58] Well, the American money used to have silver in it, folks, back in the day when, you know, our money was backed by constitutional currency.

[00:39:06] And it wouldn't always have 100% silver in it or whatever else.

[00:39:09] It would have a certain percentage.

[00:39:10] But you could gauge and know that percentage, and it was consistent.

[00:39:13] And then you could take that and figure out how many dimes or quarters or halves or whatever made up a troy ounce of gold – of silver.

[00:39:22] You can count on that.

[00:39:23] And you could use it.

[00:39:24] Well, most people don't know, but there was nickels before, I think, 1944 or three or something.

[00:39:29] I don't know the exact date.

[00:39:31] But before that, they had a certain amount of silver in them, and you could buy these silver nickels.

[00:39:37] Well, the interesting thing about it is Brian somehow got a ton of them.

[00:39:41] I mean thousands of them.

[00:39:43] And so now he's got them under spot, which means he got an incredible deal on them because a lot of people don't even really know enough about what they are.

[00:39:52] But you can verify it easily.

[00:39:55] And they are a certain percentage silver.

[00:39:57] I can't remember how many of it is.

[00:39:58] It's like 18 nickels make up a silver one-ounce equivalent, one-troy ounce equivalent.

[00:40:05] I think it's 18 of them.

[00:40:06] It changes because the value of the dollars change.

[00:40:08] The silver changes, right?

[00:40:09] But anyway, the dollar amount changes, but the ratio doesn't because there's a certain amount of silver in every one of them.

[00:40:16] I think it's 18 if I'm not mistaken.

[00:40:18] Anyway, the whole point, the reason I'm telling you all this is because Brian's not here because he's not feeling well.

[00:40:24] But I want you to know you can get this silver for less, folks.

[00:40:29] This is cool.

[00:40:31] Less than spot.

[00:40:33] Spot is 33.47 on silver right now.

[00:40:36] I think it's pretty cool in my opinion.

[00:40:38] All right, I'm going to take a quick break.

[00:40:39] Come back.

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[00:43:06] Wow, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:43:07] So much to cover.

[00:43:08] So little time, right?

[00:43:10] In the Honest Money Report, I want you to really remember freewatercoinco.com.

[00:43:15] They've got nickels below spot.

[00:43:17] You've got to check that out.

[00:43:18] That's what I recommend people get.

[00:43:19] Because, man, you're buying, the second you buy them based on honest money, you've already got value.

[00:43:25] And you're taking possession of the metal.

[00:43:28] That's really, really, really, really critical, right?

[00:43:31] All right, this is an interesting tidbit.

[00:43:32] I reported a day or two ago that Donald Trump's high-flying truth social was doing incredibly well.

[00:43:39] And they say it was over $10 billion in value.

[00:43:42] It even eclipsed X, Elon Musk's X, or Twitter, right?

[00:43:49] And it was shocking to me.

[00:43:51] But over the last several months, his stock has just gone up, up, up, up, up and away.

[00:43:55] I don't know what it is, 20 times something plus, whatever.

[00:43:58] But it took a big old hit yesterday.

[00:44:02] And no one really knows why.

[00:44:04] Headline says Trump lost $1.3 billion on Wednesday.

[00:44:10] Trump media stock falls 22.3% in its, quote, worst day ever.

[00:44:20] And it's not clear of the reasons why.

[00:44:23] I find that interesting as well.

[00:44:25] Ardendier with us, newsert.com with the piece.

[00:44:29] And they say the stock closed at $40.03 or $40.03 per share on Wednesday.

[00:44:38] That's $40.03 per share for truth social.

[00:44:42] Compared to $51.51 on Tuesday.

[00:44:49] When truth social was briefly considered more valuable than X.

[00:44:53] So it was a blip high and now it's a whatever low.

[00:44:57] I don't really even understand this.

[00:44:59] But I wanted to bring that up in the Honest Money Report.

[00:45:01] Because I kind of think, what's the real value?

[00:45:03] It can't be.

[00:45:03] Look, I want to teach you a principle right now, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:45:07] Many of you already know this principle, so don't laugh at me.

[00:45:09] I just, some people don't really understand.

[00:45:13] You really don't know the value of something factually.

[00:45:17] Unless there's a buyer and a seller.

[00:45:20] And the seller sells it and the buyer buys it.

[00:45:22] And that number becomes the transactional reality.

[00:45:25] Is it worth that?

[00:45:25] Yes, it is because someone paid that for it.

[00:45:27] Proof positive, it's worth it.

[00:45:30] Now you can say, well, that's not even accurate, Sam.

[00:45:32] Because that's just, you know, if you find the right person at the right time.

[00:45:34] There's timing.

[00:45:34] There's all kinds of other realities.

[00:45:36] Yes, but it's the most finite, clear, consistent way to say something's worth something.

[00:45:41] If somebody will pay that for it, it's worth it because somebody did.

[00:45:44] They think it's worth it or they wouldn't have done it.

[00:45:47] Right?

[00:45:48] So that's why we say, well, truth social is worth this or that or whatever.

[00:45:51] It's all just a game.

[00:45:52] It's all stocks.

[00:45:53] It's all opinion.

[00:45:55] It's all a confidence game.

[00:45:59] If you have confidence in it, then it's worth that, I guess.

[00:46:02] Right?

[00:46:02] I mean, that's how our fiat dollar, our fake money.

[00:46:05] I mean, a hundred dollar bill is only worth two and a half cents if you print it.

[00:46:08] But why do we believe it's worth a hundred dollars plus interest?

[00:46:11] Because we have confidence in it.

[00:46:13] Well, that confidence turns into a con oftentimes.

[00:46:15] So was truth social really worth $44 billion when Elon Musk bought it?

[00:46:20] And now it's worth a little less than $10 billion.

[00:46:23] Consequently, same is true.

[00:46:25] Is truth social really worth over $10 billion a little more valuable than X on Tuesday?

[00:46:30] But on Wednesday, it's not because it just dropped the billion, $1.3 billion.

[00:46:35] Is that really true?

[00:46:36] Lost 20% of its value?

[00:46:38] No.

[00:46:38] See, it's the confidence game that people are playing.

[00:46:42] We have less confidence on Wednesday than we had on Tuesday about its value.

[00:46:46] And so it changed.

[00:46:47] But the real value is the only way you'd know is if somebody tried to buy X, you'd know the value.

[00:46:51] If somebody tried to buy truth social, you'd know the value if they really bought it for that.

[00:46:56] Right?

[00:46:57] Now, you can't even say that, hey, truth social, I'm sorry, X was worth $44 billion just because one guy paid that for it.

[00:47:05] One guy could be delusionary.

[00:47:06] Right?

[00:47:07] So usually when you do home purchases, home buys and sells, you compare a lot of homes.

[00:47:13] How do you know the home's value?

[00:47:14] You do all kinds of evaluations in the appraisal world for homes.

[00:47:20] They call them appraisal approaches.

[00:47:22] And they say, okay, look, how do we determine what the value of this home is?

[00:47:25] Well, let's look at a couple of scenarios.

[00:47:27] What would it cost to rebuild it?

[00:47:30] Okay, there's a number there.

[00:47:31] It would cost this much to rebuild it.

[00:47:33] It's worth that.

[00:47:34] Well, now let's compare that approach to another approach.

[00:47:36] What are all the homes around it selling for?

[00:47:40] When I say homes around it, our goal is to find a home that's identical, if you could.

[00:47:44] And what are the most recent sales that relate to that?

[00:47:47] If you can't find a home that's identical, pick the homes that are as close to a match as you can and then adjust for the slight differences.

[00:47:54] Like-kind sales.

[00:47:56] And the more recent and the more like-kind the sale is, the more valuable it is, engaging value.

[00:48:01] So you've got the approach of what would it cost to rebuild?

[00:48:03] You've got the other approach of like-kind sales.

[00:48:06] Right?

[00:48:08] There's several different approaches.

[00:48:09] I don't want to go into a big old real estate appraisal discussion scenario, but I used to be a mortgage broker.

[00:48:14] And I worked with a lot of bankers.

[00:48:15] And I worked on a lot of appraisals.

[00:48:17] And so I understand how appraisals work to a great degree.

[00:48:19] But I used that to kind of compare.

[00:48:21] How do you determine what something's worth?

[00:48:23] How do you determine what a business is worth?

[00:48:25] You can do it on assets and say, hey, we'll just total up the assets and say it's worth that.

[00:48:29] But above that oftentimes is considered blue sky because blue sky is something that's really vague.

[00:48:35] You can't put a number on it.

[00:48:36] There's no way to value it.

[00:48:37] But it's worth something.

[00:48:38] Right?

[00:48:39] And then you kind of say, okay, how much blue sky is that?

[00:48:42] Is it tied too close to an individual's name like Liberty Roundtable?

[00:48:45] It may not be worth that much because it's tied to the name of Sam Bushman.

[00:48:48] Sam Bushman is not that valuable of a name.

[00:48:50] And so therefore, if Sam Bushman died, there's not a lot of blue sky or value there.

[00:48:54] But if Tucker Carlson died and somebody took over the Tucker Carlson assets, his name on death has a lot of value.

[00:49:03] And so the blue sky would be a lot higher there.

[00:49:05] There are things that you can't put an asset or a dollar or an approach of value to except for kind of viewpoint, speculation, kind of general understanding.

[00:49:15] You can take a lot of things.

[00:49:16] Hey, he's got this many listeners.

[00:49:18] He's got this, that.

[00:49:19] What if somebody were to step in his shoes and carry on?

[00:49:20] And they could count on a certain percentage of that, quote, oomph from his name.

[00:49:24] Okay?

[00:49:25] That blue sky people arrive at and it's very opinion oriented.

[00:49:28] Anyway, I digress.

[00:49:29] Except to say that what is Truth Social really worth?

[00:49:35] Don't know.

[00:49:36] Can't know.

[00:49:37] They're claiming it's nine point something.

[00:49:39] It's just a little less than Twitter now or X.

[00:49:42] But X and Truth Social are pretty neck and neck.

[00:49:46] Truth Social is gaining on X every day.

[00:49:49] And, you know, well, neither of those compare to, say, Instagram or Facebook in size and scope and dollars and Google or YouTube or whatever, right?

[00:50:00] Anyway, so I find that interesting.

[00:50:02] Is it really true that, and here's the point, that Donald Trump's asset that he's got the majority stakeholder, that he's the majority stakeholder in, did it really lose up 1.3 billion in a day?

[00:50:16] Here's the answer.

[00:50:17] On paper, yes, it did, and it's shocking.

[00:50:20] Nobody knows why.

[00:50:22] Well, but it's up so much from its low that, man, when it's low, it was way down, way, way, way down.

[00:50:29] Well, many people say, well, Donald Trump's Truth Social is tied to his electability.

[00:50:34] So does that mean his electability tanked overnight?

[00:50:37] No, I don't think so.

[00:50:38] That's the problem.

[00:50:38] And that's why I think there's election games being played here.

[00:50:41] They say Trump's Truth Social is tied to the likelihood of him getting elected.

[00:50:45] The more likely he is to get elected, the higher his Truth Social goes.

[00:50:49] That's why over the last several months, it's been going up, up, up, up, and away because people are now realizing Trump will probably get elected.

[00:50:55] Well, it tanked overnight, Tuesday to Wednesday, just yesterday.

[00:51:01] Tuesday night, or Tuesday it was worth this much.

[00:51:03] Wednesday it's worth 20% less on paper.

[00:51:05] So it's not factual.

[00:51:07] It's not buy-sell.

[00:51:08] It's not reality.

[00:51:09] It's not hard numbers.

[00:51:09] It's speculative numbers.

[00:51:12] Well, no one knows why they say.

[00:51:14] And I'm going to submit to you that you would need to launch an investigation into election integrity here.

[00:51:19] If that happens, how does that affect this coming up Tuesday's election?

[00:51:26] I think it affects it greatly, right?

[00:51:28] When you all of a sudden have that tank and you say, well, we know Truth Social is directly tied to what people think of the Donald and his chances for election,

[00:51:35] then you kind of go, hmm, interesting, huh?

[00:51:38] It just tanked big time.

[00:51:40] In people's minds, well, maybe he won't win, right?

[00:51:45] Isn't that interesting?

[00:51:49] Historian Alan Litschman, for example, is still holding on, holding on and holding to his idea that Kamala Harris will win the election next week.

[00:51:58] So you've got people in Vegas saying Trump's going to win for sure.

[00:52:01] They're the betters, right?

[00:52:03] The gamblers.

[00:52:06] But Wayne Alan Root is one of the big ones.

[00:52:08] It says Trump's going to win guaranteed betting on it.

[00:52:10] And a lot of people that are that way, Vegas says Trump's going to win.

[00:52:14] This Alan Litschman guy who's won, I mean he's been right, nine out of the last ten election cycles, says, no, Kamala's going to win anyway.

[00:52:21] I know you guys think that, but it's not true.

[00:52:23] So it's all over the map of the truth, right?

[00:52:26] The polls say they're neck and neck.

[00:52:28] It's really difficult for them to really get to the bottom of any of this.

[00:52:31] They kind of want you to believe, right?

[00:52:34] I don't believe it's that simple.

[00:52:37] I really don't.

[00:52:39] And I believe that this is, you know, they say they don't know why Trump's evaluation of his social media melted down.

[00:52:47] But I submit to you that it was 51-51 on Tuesday, 40.03 on Wednesday.

[00:52:58] All right?

[00:52:58] So you go, hmm.

[00:53:00] And my question is, who manipulated that?

[00:53:03] Now, you can track stock transactions.

[00:53:06] If somebody were to investigate this who had the inside ability, they could know the answer.

[00:53:11] Who bought and sold how many shares?

[00:53:14] Did election fraud occur there?

[00:53:16] I don't know.

[00:53:17] I don't have facts.

[00:53:19] But I'm telling you this.

[00:53:21] Less than a week before the election, Tuesday to Wednesday.

[00:53:25] Tuesday it was exactly a week, but Wednesday it was shorter than a week, right?

[00:53:28] All of a sudden, Trump's stock on true social tanks, and they say that his value of his company directly relates to whether people believe he will win the election or not.

[00:53:37] Did everybody just lose confidence that he'll win the election overnight, Tuesday to Wednesday?

[00:53:41] I don't think so.

[00:53:43] That's when the scandals were coming out where Joe Biden was saying, oh, yeah, all you Trump supporters are trash.

[00:53:50] Well, that gives Donald a boost.

[00:53:52] And the Harris-Biden-whatever campaign, you know, kind of a tank, right?

[00:53:57] But we saw the opposite in truth social.

[00:54:01] I think we need to have an investigation of why.

[00:54:03] I think it might point to election fraud, just my opinion to which I'm entitled.

[00:54:06] Call me a conspiracy theorist.

[00:54:07] Call me speculation if you want to.

[00:54:09] But if nobody knows why, isn't it important right before an election to find out why?

[00:54:14] I think it would be, but that's just me.

[00:54:16] And I bring it up and they say, you're a nutcase, Sam.

[00:54:19] You're a whack job.

[00:54:19] You're crazy.

[00:54:20] No, I just follow the money.

[00:54:23] How did all of a sudden Donald Trump's truth social drop 20% in one day?

[00:54:28] The answer, follow the money and you'll know why and how and whodunit, won't you?

[00:54:32] Right?

[00:54:33] All right.

[00:54:33] Hang tight.

[00:54:34] Hour one on the can.

[00:54:35] Hour two coming up.

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