* Guest: Dr. Scott Bradley, Founder and Chairman of the Constitution Commemoration Foundation and the author of the book and DVD/CD lecture series To Preserve the Nation. In the Tradition of the Founding Fathers - FreedomsRisingSun.com
* Helicopter pilot Jordan Seidhom threatened with arrest after flying rescue missions in flood-ravaged NC - Isabel Keane, NYPost.com
* Jordan Seidhom was flying victims out of the devastation over the weekend when local leaders told him there was a flight restriction on the area and that they would have to arrest him if he continued making flights.
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[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.
[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.
[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Sam Bushman live on your radio.
[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Hard-hitting news the networks refuse to use, no doubt, starts now.
[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_09]: This is the broadcast for October the 7th of the year of our Lord, 2024.
[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_09]: This is Hour 1 of 2, the goal always to protect life, liberty, and property,
[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_09]: to promote God, family, and country, and to do so on your radio
[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_09]: and the traditions of our founding fathers.
[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, indeed, we use the blueprint for liberty, the supreme law of the land,
[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_09]: the Constitution for the United States of America.
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_09]: That is our guide.
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_09]: We reject revolution.
[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Unless it's the Jesus revolution, then we're in because we follow the Prince of Peace.
[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_09]: After all, it is the checks and balances brilliantly put in place by the founding fathers,
[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_09]: one of the peaceful restorative solutions we have at our fingertips.
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Dr. Bradley with me, freedomsrisingson.com, his website.
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_09]: He's the founder and chairman of the Constitution Commemoration Foundation
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_09]: and the author of the book and DVD lecture series,
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_09]: To Preserve the Nation in the Traditions of Our Founding Fathers,
[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_09]: freedomsrisingson.com is where you can check that out.
[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I was not live on Saturday, but we talked on Friday, Dr. Bradley and I,
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_09]: about the King James Version of the Bible, Exodus 20, 15 through 17,
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Thou shalt not steal.
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, we got all kinds of different deals with the government's stealing left and right.
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_09]: That seems to be their normal mode of operandi.
[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, people are asking Joe Biden,
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, what do you think after seeing the big old storm thing?
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Joe's like, I'm wondering what storm you're talking about.
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, clueless as could be.
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_09]: He said they're getting everything they need.
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_09]: They're happy across the board.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, that's not the information we're getting.
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Wow.
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Alabama lawmakers are slamming Biden and Harris for giving money to illegal aliens
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_09]: while folks in the hurricane are suffering.
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Homeland Security basically says, Hey, well, FEMA has enough money for this current disaster.
[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_09]: They don't have enough money to outlast the hurricane season.
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_09]: And, of course, Congress funded FEMA disaster relief, $20 billion.
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_09]: But now I guess the money is being spent elsewhere.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_09]: They say $1 billion in disaster funds were used towards illegal immigrants.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_09]: They say Elon Musk has done more for North Carolina in a week than Joe and Kamala have done in four years.
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Flashback Obama and team trash.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Basically, I guess George Bush didn't react swift enough and they attacked him relentlessly.
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Now it turns out they're taking a whole lot longer than Bush did.
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't even know how to respond to all that.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, there you have that.
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_09]: And I look at this and I go, Hmm, where do we go from here?
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Because thou shalt not steal.
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't believe the federal government shouldn't be involved in any of this at all.
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_09]: End of paragraph.
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_09]: I know people would say, Oh, Sam, you're so hard-hearted.
[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Wow, shame on you.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_09]: No, no, shame on those who want to steal.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_09]: I believe the American people are incredibly resilient.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I believe the private sector and churches could do a tremendous work.
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, I don't need government involved in every aspect of our lives.
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_09]: That's the problem.
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Everybody wants to look to the government instead of God for solutions.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Nobody, you know, prays.
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_09]: They just say, Hey, government, bring FEMA in here.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_09]: And everybody else is like, FEMA can't get it done.
[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_09]: And then, okay, and now we've got a disaster zone.
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Hurricane coming again on Wednesday.
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I don't know if it'll hit the same places it hit before or if it'll just wreak, you know, destruction in new locations.
[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_09]: But the disasters are getting crazy.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_09]: And you say, Well, look, no one's even mentioning God in the discussion at all.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Look, God told us if we don't repent and turn to him, we're going to have untold calamities or foretold calamities, right?
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, this isn't something new.
[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Before we get to the destruction and the confusion on the ground and the false news and everything else, doctor, about this, I first want to just talk about this.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, no one's really talking about God in this thing.
[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_09]: We know from Scripture that God says, Look, you're going to have earthquakes in diverse places.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_09]: You're going to have typhoons and hurricanes and all these different kind of things.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_09]: And, man, we're just seeing what God Almighty told us would happen if we turn our back on him.
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_09]: And as a nation, I don't hear anybody even bringing up God at all.
[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_09]: We're just like, Oh, get FEMA to help.
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_09]: And, man, FEMA's not helping.
[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Shame on FEMA.
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_09]: But how come no one's involved in the God discussion?
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Doctor?
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It's certainly all my lifetime and certainly virtually all of the lifetime of my parents even.
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And the, you know, the idea that what?
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_04]: How?
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_04]: What do you mean?
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we got rid of God.
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_04]: We've been working that way incessantly.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_09]: The only effort I've seen towards God is the vote or pray vote stand summit that happened last weekend in D.C.
[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, that was something.
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_09]: But I don't hear anybody really in the real discussions about this talking about God and the solutions there.
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_09]: I think the private sector and turning to God could do more good than we could possibly imagine.
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I believe it would, too.
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But the problem is we've got a civil religion that has been preached at taxpayer expense in our public education indoctrination centers.
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And the Deweyist and the Darwinist and the Keynesianists.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: And, I mean, you can list all of the high priests, if you will, of the godlessness that has been taught in our public education system at taxpayer expense in violation of Amendment 1 about the idea of a tax-supported religion being prohibited.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it gives them a leg up.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It gives them the benefit.
[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And every day when they put the kids on the indoctrination center buses to send them there from the time they're in kindergarten on up, then into the university, they get it honed and polished.
[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And what we have is we have a civil religion that says go to your county office, your state office, or your federal offices.
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Get the right form.
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, you can print them off on the Internet nowadays.
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You can even submit them on the Internet.
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You get money.
[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You get support.
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: You get sustained.
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And the thing is that we are praying to a godless philosophy, a non-deity religion, a faith-based religion that has taken over America.
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And they've basically done everything in their power to outlaw the god that the nation has always worshipped by making it more and more difficult.
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_04]: They narrowly focus the religious liberty stuff, and you can only say it in your buildings, your temples, synagogues, your cathedrals, your churches.
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_04]: But don't you dare bring that into the public marketplace.
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't you dare, as a company that's a Christian-owned company, say, well, we're not going to pay for killing babies before they're born or whatever.
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_04]: We're not going to pay for sexual mutilization of children that somehow they're being fostered a mental illness.
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_04]: They've prohibited things like that while completely taking off the gloves and fighting bare knuckles now in the schools about, well, let's teach you about mechanics of reproduction,
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_04]: but nothing about the fidelity and importance of faithfulness not only to God but your spouse.
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_04]: This stuff has been coming for decades, Sam, and so can we be surprised when the media?
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, everything the media does is spin an agenda, the major media.
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not talking about your programming and those things like that.
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm talking about the idea that let's look at Kamala Harris.
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: She was probably the least, shall we say, impressive vice president ever, except for maybe Spiro Agnew.
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And most of your listeners probably don't even remember back in 1974 on that thing.
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, Spiro Agnew was pretty low on the totem pole.
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_04]: But Kamala went almost instantly, overnight, based on media spin, from this dreary, completely, unimaginably dull vice president to becoming the frontrunner in their books for the presidency,
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_04]: right on the very cusp of coming in the front door of the White House.
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But the media does all this stuff, Sam.
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And so, yeah, there's got to be voices out there.
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And I know we're trying to do stuff like that.
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But my heavens, people need to wake up and realize we're being basically excommunicated or God's being excommunicated from our society.
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_09]: You're right about that.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, listen to this.
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_09]: This is very strange.
[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_09]: But I type in Helene space God into Google.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And my logic is, hey, you know what?
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Let's see if people are talking about God or pointing people to God or directing people to, okay?
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_09]: And I type in the word Helene and God because that's the name of the latest hurricane, right, that caused all this damage.
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_09]: But all I get is Helene of Troy.
[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_11]: Helene.
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_09]: So I don't know if you know, that's the daughter of the Greek mythology stuff where Helene is supposed to be the most beautiful woman among the world.
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_09]: And basically, Helen of Sparta or simply Helene, the most beautiful woman of the world at the center of the war.
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_09]: And Helen of Troy, Wikipedia and all this stuff.
[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_09]: There's not a single thing about God, doctor, on the whole Google that I can find if I put in those two words.
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, and I think AI and the search engines and everything are collaborating on this thing, too.
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just appalling to me what we have done.
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, we once were a Christian nation.
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, and I believe, and like I say, back in the mid-60s, I set out on a quest to travel back and forth across the United States and get to know the people and the nation.
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And there are good people out there.
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_04]: They're just not having a voice.
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the problem.
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_09]: I type in Helene, turn to God.
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_09]: And I get Baptist Church searching for answers.
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_09]: We'll talk about it.
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_09]: I get a few things, but nothing that would make any sense to me.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Just the disaster.
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_09]: People are struggling.
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Hang tight.
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[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_09]: All right, back with you live, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_09]: All I hear are rumors, innuendo, confusing information.
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't even know how to respond to this.
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_09]: What's going on in Asheville and the surrounding communities in North Carolina?
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_09]: They say it's devastation.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_09]: They say there's lack of cell phone service.
[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_09]: They say people are trapped.
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Bridges are down.
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Hundreds, thousands of roads are washed out.
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Helicopter pilot threatened with arrest after flying rescue missions in flood-ravaged North Carolina.
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_09]: You get that.
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_09]: They say this guy flew stranded victims to safety.
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_09]: He claims he was told he'd be arrested if he didn't stop.
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, there's also allegations that sheriffs are arresting FEMA.
[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't believe that.
[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, there's so much innuendo, so much scandal, so much you can't know what's going on, ladies and gentlemen, at all in this thing.
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Doctor, what do you think about this?
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, to me, you just got the Republicans saying the Democrats are horrible because they're not throwing out tons of relief.
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_09]: That Joe and Kamala need to just be on the scene with plenty of bucks.
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Shame on them for giving all the bucks to illegals.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Illegals now suing Donald Trump.
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_09]: The judge said the suit cannot go forward, but Haitian migrants suing Donald's thing, you can't say that about us.
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_09]: And then you've got this Asheville, North Carolina, and surrounding communities where it's just like disaster.
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_09]: No one can really get the truth of what's going on.
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_09]: It's horrible.
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_09]: People are suffering.
[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_09]: That's all factual.
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_09]: But the facts are almost impossible to obtain.
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Doctor?
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I think you're probably right.
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's such a thing.
[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they talk about the fog of war when, you know, you get a whole bunch of confusing noise and all sorts of, you know, just plain distraction in every way, shape, and form.
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that we're going to have to sort a lot of it, sort a lot of it ultimately and finally in a more reasonable manner.
[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: But I do believe there's some substance to some of these things, like the draconian force of arms basically preventing rescue efforts and trying to force it into the government's hands.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But from all of this thing at this point right now, since there is so much confusion, I think that we, if we're wise, would perhaps begin to learn something from these lessons.
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what level of preparedness have you got in your particular area and situation?
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, maybe you don't have, you know, tornadoes and hurricanes, but you got earthquakes.
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe you have economic challenges.
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe you have your own personal situation where, you know, your job's a little kind of tenuous.
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, all sorts of disasters can happen.
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And doing our best to prepare in advance for them, I think, would be a word to the wise right now.
[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And by the way, you look at this.
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Doing our best to prepare for when they happen from a physical point of view, no doubt, but also turning to God and repenting and counting on the creator of the universe, the ultimate weatherman, would be good.
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_09]: But even after the fact, though, you know what?
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_09]: The first two great commandments are love thy God and love thy neighbor as thyself.
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, to me, if we really take that seriously, we could provide tons of help to these people.
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, the problem is it seems like right now, and I don't have facts on all these details, but I do know this.
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_09]: According to the Washington Post, this gentleman basically said, hey, they threatened me with arrest if I continue doing these rescue missions.
[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_09]: What you have is a war between the government and the people right now over this thing.
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Who's going to help?
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Who's going to do what?
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_09]: The government's saying you're not allowed to help get out of here.
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, there's all kinds of allegations about confiscated and confiscated, you know, relief assistance.
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what you say.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Equipment and whatever and relief goods and services.
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And I don't know the truth.
[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't get the truth.
[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I've called everybody that I know.
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_09]: I've got a friend who is there flying a helicopter mission, but I can't get a hold of him because there's no self-service there.
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_09]: So anyway, this is very difficult.
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_09]: And the problem is.
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Here's the problem, doctor.
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't trust FEMA or the government.
[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_09]: So if they're there, I mean, I just look at back in the day when it was Hurricane Katrina.
[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_09]: I know this.
[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_09]: The government was disarming people, preventing them from defending themselves from marauders and rioters and thugs who would take advantage of the situation.
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it is disaster.
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_09]: And the problem is, you know, the mainstream press said, oh, there's all these lies about this and that.
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_09]: You can't trust the mainstream press or anything they say at all.
[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_09]: And so right now we've got this crisis of information that I can see.
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_09]: People are coming to me and saying, Sam, what's the what's the deal?
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't have answers yet.
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_09]: People accept this.
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know that I believe the extreme statements, but I do know even in the Washington Post or is it the Washington Post?
[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_04]: The Washington Post is one of the major newspapers out of Washington.
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Let me see here what this one is, though.
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, this is the New York Post.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, I couldn't remember which one it is.
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_09]: The New York Post is even saying, hey, this guy's claiming that he was threatened with arrest if he didn't stop his missions.
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, I know the government might say, well, listen, we just can't have everybody going in here willy nilly and it can create more trouble than good.
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_09]: And I understand.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_09]: And. But I disagree.
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_09]: What I mean by that is I understand what they're claiming, but we've got to create a balance here.
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_09]: And I know this from the past.
[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_09]: And so if we look at the past, this prologue to the future is Dr.
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Bradley wisely warns us to do or reminds us to do, I should say.
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_09]: In the past, you know, I've had churches try to help with the homeless or helping disasters.
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_09]: And the government just shut them down and said, look, you can't provide food.
[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_09]: You don't have a food license.
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_09]: And the church is like, what?
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_09]: We don't need a food license.
[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_09]: This is an emergency situation.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Don't care.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Shut down.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_09]: OK, no, you can't provide beds for the homeless.
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_09]: You don't have a whatever permit or this or that.
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_09]: So we've seen historical reality of this kind of stuff.
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_09]: And now it's coming to a head and people are desperate.
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_09]: People are dying.
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_09]: People are starving.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_09]: People are.
[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_09]: And now all we can get is is conflicting information, doctor.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Again, now's the time to prepare.
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_04]: If you are prepared, you shall not fear.
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_04]: One thing I was struck by when you were talking about this.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You remember the the big war zones that they had up in Seattle.
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And and Portland and those places and everything.
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And the camp outs.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I went up and saw it.
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it really did look like a refugee camp in a lot of areas up there.
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And and all of that stuff is given a pass by by government agencies.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But when honest and honorable individuals are trying to assist in any way they possibly can,
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_04]: somebody wants to bring cookies to somebody.
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Why should that be a problem?
[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the fact of the matter is they feed and foster this collapse of society.
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And yet when individuals are doing what the Christian faith or the scriptures would admonish
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_04]: us to do, they get shut down by a government agency that doesn't want competition on the
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_04]: things that they're trying to bring about.
[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just really upside down and backwards.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to do a relook at this thing.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And by the way, if that helicopter pilot lives, I've seen quite a bit of reports on this.
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I've seen videos on it and so on.
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So but the but the individual that was threatening to arrest him should lose their job.
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I don't care.
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. So the helicopter pilot, just so everybody knows, is the governor of Jordan.
[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Say him.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know how to say his name.
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Say him.
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_09]: And he basically said, look, I was arrested.
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I was threatened with the rest.
[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_09]: They said it's a no fly zone.
[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_09]: You can't do it.
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_09]: And he was flying victims out of the devastation.
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_09]: People.
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know how to respond to this.
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_04]: He had left one of his son up on the hillside for load management to get somebody out.
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, his chopper isn't a big, you know, iron horse that's going to take things in and
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_04]: out without a problem.
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it was a load management kind of thing.
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_04]: He left his son up there so he could get somebody out.
[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he was going back to get his son.
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And they said, no, you can't go if you go.
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll arrest you.
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, wait.
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_04]: My kids up there.
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is asinine.
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And like, again, the individual that did that, unbelievably so should be required to lose
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_04]: their jobs.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: If it was a voted kind of, you know, official, the people in the community should say, no,
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: you not only can you not have a job here, you're banished from our society.
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's how they used to handle it in the primitive societies.
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: They said, you're just not welcome in our town anymore.
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's just absurd to think the extent that some of these bullies go to.
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, this guy, Jordan, by the way, just so you know, he once led the Chesterfield County
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_09]: narcotics unit for the sheriff's office.
[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_09]: So this guy isn't just some amateur or whatever.
[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_04]: He's qualified.
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But you can't do it.
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_09]: No, shut him down.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, and I'm just thinking people's lives are at stake.
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, I get if you say, listen, we're going to make sure that people are qualified to be
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_09]: here.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_09]: We don't want people making it worse.
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I get all that.
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_09]: I get vetting the people that assist to some degree.
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_09]: In other words, some organization, you know.
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I understand some of that, Dr. Bradley.
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_09]: But no help?
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, like I say, the people should speak and say, you're not one of our people anymore.
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't have the job that you had.
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And it should be swift and severe.
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_04]: There shouldn't be any flex on this thing.
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what?
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Sooner or later, people got to learn their lessons.
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And again, people give this some form of sovereign immunity, a made up doctrine for these people
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_04]: that have official titles and so on.
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_04]: They hold them harmless.
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Nobody's ever.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Look, what if that guy's actions caused two, five, 10, 40 people to die that could have
[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_04]: been rescued?
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I think of the pilots in Southeast Asia that went into the red smoke basically against
[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_04]: counsel and advice of their superiors to pull people out that would have died without them.
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_04]: What's the big difference?
[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what if you got four people dying on a hill in some war zone versus four people dying
[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_04]: in a river in your flood zone?
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if you can help, it seems like there ought to be some recognition of the value that
[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_04]: you bring to the formula.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So.
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, and a way to coordinate, making sure that it's legitimate.
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, I don't have any problem with people saying, listen, you know what?
[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_09]: We need to have coordination here.
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_09]: We need you to kind of, you know, we're going to add you to, hey, we know you're in their
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_09]: flying missions or whatever.
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_09]: But it turns out this guy, him and his son are both firefighters too.
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_09]: They've got plenty of experience in these kind of uncomfortable or difficult situations,
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_09]: doctor.
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_04]: No question.
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's people that can vet this in about a nanosecond and they can make it
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: right.
[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_09]: I agree.
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_09]: 100%.
[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, I don't know what's going on.
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_09]: We'll get into some of the details too.
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_09]: There's all kinds of allegations that I can't verify are true.
[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm going to say they're not true until I have evidence from a reliable source that
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_09]: they are true.
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_09]: So remember in the news business, we need to be all about the who, what, when, where,
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_09]: and why of a story.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_09]: And if we don't have those facts nailed down, you've got to be very, very careful indeed.
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Hang tight, Dr. Scott Bradley and yours truly on your radio.
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[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: A former Russian deputy defense minister is facing corruption charges involving the alleged
[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: theft of more than $30 million.
[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a spectacular fall from grace.
[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Timo Ivanov was Russia's deputy defense minister for six years, a Kremlin insider with particular
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[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But in April this year, he was arrested, accused of taking bribes in connection with the construction
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[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Now he's been charged with embezzling vast sums of money from a bank.
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Ivanov was a close ally of the defense minister, Sergei Shoigu, who was sacked shortly after Mr. Ivanov's arrest.
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Some suggest this is all about infighting among political factions rather than crime and punishment.
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The BBC's Paul Moss.
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_03]: A Russian court has sentenced a 72-year-old American to almost seven years in prison for allegedly fighting as a mercenary in Ukraine.
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[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Belt tightening at Dutch Airline KLM, although we don't know if it will involve any job cuts.
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_08]: The measures aim to boost the carrier's finances as it continues to recover from the COVID pandemic that grounded planes worldwide.
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_08]: KLM CEO says along with many other airlines, KLM, quote, is suffering from high costs and shortages of staff and equipment.
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_08]: The carrier says the package of measures is intended to improve its operating result by $497 million in the short term.
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Correspondent Jeremy House.
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Democratic Congressman Andy Kim and Republican Curtis Mashau met in their first debate for New Jersey's Senate seat.
[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_03]: The spot is open this year after Bob Menendez's conviction on bribery charges and his resignation.
[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Kim, a three-term representative from the 3rd District.
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Mashau, a hotel developer from southern New Jersey and first-time political candidate.
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[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_09]: This is the broadcast for September or October the 7th.
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_09]: October the 7th in the year of our Lord, 2024.
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Dr. Scott Bradley is with me.
[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_09]: We're talking about this Hurricane Helene and the disaster that it's created.
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Over 225 people confirmed dead.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Lots of people still missing.
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_09]: The sheriff says we're coming for you.
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_09]: But a gentleman basically said, hey, I got a helicopter and I've tried to fly.
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm a firefighter.
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_09]: My son's a firefighter.
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_09]: We're trying to rescue people.
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_09]: They threatened us with arrest.
[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_09]: They say bridges are gone everywhere.
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_09]: There's roads that are dirt roads that are just gone.
[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_09]: And I don't know how to respond to this.
[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_09]: They say the phone lines or cell towers are down.
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_09]: They say you hope you're getting closer to the victims to try to care for them, but you can't tell.
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_09]: There's just so much debris, so much carnage, damage.
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Now they say the power's slowly coming back.
[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Most of the outages are in Carolina and Georgia where Helene struck after coming into Georgia.
[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_09]: President Joe Biden flew over the devastation on Wednesday or last Wednesday.
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_09]: But then as far as I understand, he didn't even have a clue.
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_09]: When people asked him about it, he didn't even know what they were talking about.
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_09]: So there you have it.
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_09]: But anyway, I don't know how to respond to this.
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_09]: There's no real solid information.
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_09]: But now there's allegations that in addition to the factual documented, this is the New York Post documented that this gentleman saying, hey, you know what?
[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_09]: I was threatened with arrest.
[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_09]: We now have allegations that sheriffs are starting to arrest FEMA agents, that FEMA agents are not hardly any there.
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Now they say there's more FEMA agents rolling into the area.
[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_09]: They say that the timing of the response is problematic by Kamala and Joe and clowns over there.
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And Dr. Bradley, we really don't have any real handle on the truth on what's really going on where.
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Even the little blip reports that we have.
[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_09]: What's shocking to me is why wouldn't we have solid information?
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_09]: We can have satellite detail about what's happening around the world.
[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_09]: We can have all kinds of you would think that there'd be solid information from the private sector.
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_09]: But the media doesn't really have anything on this thing hardly at all.
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_09]: What's going on?
[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It is astounding that you can have reports from the Gaza Strip or someplace in Yemen or, you know, let's look at the ghettos in Beirut.
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we can get reports, you know, really real-time reports.
[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, with all the technology that's available nowadays, we can't get boo-squat-diddly out of the United States and on our own shores.
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It is astounding.
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It almost seems like there's a purposeful blackout of information.
[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, you hate to say, oh, yeah, there's somebody at fault for that, but give me another answer, you know.
[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Just give me an answer.
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Historically, ham radio operators have been able to give communication, you know, and there's linkages.
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I used to be involved.
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a ham radio operator, and I used to be involved in regular network reviews.
[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_04]: We had a weekly meeting that we linked together over ham network to be able to communicate things in emergency, what did we call it, ERRS, emergency response radio system.
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's what we called it.
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, a radio response system.
[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It was a very, I mean, it was, we were amateur radio operators that we linked up every Sunday night just to make sure we kept the, you know, skills handy and everything like that.
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was just a, you know, kind of a bunch of people that cared and wanted to make sure that they could help if the need was there.
[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what's happened.
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't know.
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_04]: By the way, I would put a plug in for ham radio at this particular point because you talk about the cell service being out.
[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, cell towers are only trunked to a certain level.
[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_04]: That means they only have access lines for a certain percentage of the people that are in that area on cell phones.
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So, and I don't know what they're trunking them at, but let's just say 15% of those that are generally in the area.
[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's say you got 1,000 people in the area that have cell phones, and you have 15%, so 150 trunks.
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_04]: After that, they're toast.
[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_04]: They're gone.
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's blocked up in an emergency situation.
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_09]: And the idea is that those 1,000 people only need 150 trunks because everybody isn't on the phone at the same time is the idea, right?
[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_04]: On normal operation, but emergency hits.
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Suddenly, everybody wants to call their loved one and say, are you okay?
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And on top of that, then we have, you know, the fact that you have generators.
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_04]: The whole line's going down.
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_04]: You have lines going down, but you have generators that go out.
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_04]: You have towers that are knocked down at certain times.
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, command, control, communication, and intelligence.
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_04]: C-cubed I is what we used to talk about in the military, and that communications and the intelligence aspect of it is greatly hindered by disasters.
[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And so people say, oh, I got my cell phone.
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll always be able to call mom and see if she's okay.
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know what?
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Mom may or may not be okay, but mom does not have cell service if we get one of these cataclysmic kind of things happening.
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_04]: And so if you've got a ham radio and you know how to operate it, they're a little bit more complicated than what people might say is push to talk.
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I turned it on, and I talked to everybody in the world.
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_04]: But the fact of the matter is that you've got to have generation power.
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_04]: You've got to have a way to keep it operational.
[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_04]: These things don't run off of squirrels running in a squirrel cage, you know.
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So all of these kind of things are things that you need to think about in advance.
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And my advice would be, you know, let's talk about drinking water.
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about, you know, what does it take to keep you alive until you get some other help?
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes help is a long time coming.
[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you have the first aid skills?
[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Could you, you know, bandage up a head wound and keep him from bleeding out on you?
[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Head wounds bleed a lot, you know.
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_04]: All of those kinds of things.
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Could you deliver a baby if it were needful?
[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, just think what life normally is.
[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And if you lost the infrastructure that you're having support you all the time, how would it work?
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_04]: What if you were put into a, I mean, right now in Gaza, they're amputating people's legs on kitchen tables without anesthesia because the hospitals have been blown to smithereens.
[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's a really tough, tough, gritty scenario to be in.
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And, I mean, there was a guy, I mean, just to show you how tough it can get, I don't remember, I don't know if you remember, Sam, this guy that was, you know, bouldering down in southern Utah.
[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And he got his arm stuck in a crack in a rock.
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And he stayed there as long as he could until he thought he was going to die.
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And he used his, it was some kind of a Leatherman type tool that to amputate his own arm.
[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you remember that story or not, but this guy was left with no other choices.
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_04]: That's pretty much the end of the line right there.
[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So, I mean, you know, you don't have to get all gruesome and, you know, everything about it, but you'll feel much more comfortable if you have some kind of skill sets and some kind of preparation.
[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And if you do it, you might just have a better situation than what you would have had, you know.
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We've just got to be smart enough to think about this.
[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Because, you know, years ago, and I'm talking a lot, I know, but there was a, I used to take, you know, the American Rifleman and Outdoor Life and stuff like that.
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what they're like now.
[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, okay, the American Rifleman is largely what it used to be.
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_04]: But there was an article in Outdoor Life, oh, this was probably 55, 60 years ago, about some guys that were on a remote fishing site.
[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_04]: That you got flown in, dropped off, and the bush pilot left you there.
[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And there was a group of guys that were there, and he told them when they left, you know what, there's been a bear, there's been a problem.
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to have to take care of it if it becomes a problem.
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And the guys are going, what do you mean we're going to have to take care of it?
[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, somebody ought to, you know, why doesn't somebody else take care of it?
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And the fact of the matter was the bear became a problem.
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_04]: They had to resort to the weaponry they had to take care of that bear because it was only them that could take care of it.
[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes that's the way life is.
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_04]: It's only you.
[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_04]: You ran out of gas on the end of a snowy road in the middle of winter.
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_04]: What are you going to do?
[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, whatever it is, just think ahead.
[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Try and get a little bit of common sense and preparedness.
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, Sam, does any of this make any sense to you?
[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Every bit of it makes sense to me, and that's what I don't understand, how we can't get solid information.
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you go look on the news, Dr. Bradley.
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_09]: And as far as I can tell, there's nothing that gives me solid information.
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, while you were talking, just so you know, I just got a hold of Hayward County Department of Social Services.
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_09]: So that's Hayward County, North Carolina.
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_09]: And I talked to a nice lady there that gave me information.
[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_09]: She gave me their chief information officer.
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_09]: But I called him, and he didn't answer.
[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_09]: But all I'm telling you is I'm trying to get information.
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_09]: But I don't really, you know, I type in Asheville relief.
[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_09]: And I hear supplies arrive after death toll goes up.
[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_09]: How to help, what to donate.
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Flooding victims, how to donate.
[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Mounting casualties.
[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_09]: When will relief come?
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_09]: But I'm not finding a whole lot of information.
[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, they say the only scene comparable.
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_09]: This is CNN, Dr. Bradley.
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_09]: The only scene comparable to one unfolding in Western North Carolina is a war zone.
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, this is what I'm talking about.
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And we're getting no information about it?
[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I've got more information about what's happening in Israel than I've got on this thing.
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I go to the mainstream press, top of all the news segments, and I don't see hardly anything on it.
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, these people are suffering, and this is serious business.
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_09]: But I struggle to get any answers.
[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Hang tight.
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[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_09]: All right, back with you live, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Listen up.
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, Dylan.
[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_09]: My name is Sam Bushman calling from the Liberty Roundtable nationally syndicated radio broadcast.
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm hoping to get some information of exactly what's happening on the ground in North Carolina there.
[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_09]: The mainstream press seems that there's a dearth of information, sir.
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_09]: And there's all kinds of allegations out there.
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't like to run in innuendo.
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_09]: I want to get the who, what, when, where, why of the story.
[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_09]: That's what we do as news reporters.
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, I'm hoping you can call me back.
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm hoping I can get some information from you and some clarity about what's happening.
[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_09]: You can reach me at 801-756-9133.
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_09]: That's the best number for me.
[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_09]: 801-756-9133.
[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_09]: We'd love to get you on the radio and kind of run some of this to ground.
[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Would love to help and be part of solutions.
[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_09]: But, man, the allegations and the lack of information are just shocking.
[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, I look forward to your call, sir.
[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_09]: My name is Sam Bushman, 801-756-9133.
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_09]: And I just left this gentleman, the chief information officer, a message, Dr. Bradley.
[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_09]: And he is in a county that was hit hard.
[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Their building wasn't trashed too much at the Health and Human Services or whatever.
[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_09]: But it's Haywood County, North Carolina, that I'm calling.
[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm trying to get to the bottom of some of this information.
[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Everything I do just turns up nobody's around.
[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Nobody's at the helm.
[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Nobody has any answers.
[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Nobody knows.
[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Everybody thinks, well, I'm not sure.
[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_09]: But I think so.
[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_09]: But I go to CNN.com.
[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_09]: What do I get?
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Top story.
[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_09]: What do you think top story on CNN.com is?
[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Doctor, you ready?
[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm listening.
[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Mother struggled to bring kidnapped daughter home.
[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm not going to be wrong.
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_09]: That's important.
[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_09]: But compared to, you know, 97 hostages are unaccountable.
[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_09]: One year since October 7th.
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Live updates.
[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Israeli, whatever.
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_09]: The Middle East faces what they call a multi-fronted war.
[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Didn't seem possible a year ago.
[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Soldiers worried about attack.
[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_04]: They started the multi-fronted war.
[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_04]: What?
[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_04]: In Syria?
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And in Lebanon?
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And in Iran?
[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Milton explodes into category four storm.
[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_09]: All I'm telling you is I don't see any information on what I'm wanting to know.
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_04]: By the way, on Sunday.
[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Storm tracker.
[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Sunday, Stephanopoulos interviewed FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell.
[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And she puts, she says all of these are baseless claims.
[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Ridiculous.
[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Here's one of the things she said.
[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_04]: That this disinformation is, has a quote unquote tremendous impact on the comfort level of, comfort level.
[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_04]: That sounds like an appropriate term.
[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Of FEMA employees in the field.
[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's like this is a, this is the face of someone that is probably sitting in her office with her feet on the desk while everything.
[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I'd say that's maybe a little more too derogatory.
[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_04]: But the fact of the matter is she's defending all of FEMA's actions on ABC, the George Stephanopoulos thing on Sunday.
[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was yesterday.
[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, by the way, this article also talks about what, 227 people, according to the reports, are on the dead list now.
[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_04]: So, it's going to rise.
[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say very high.
[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_09]: How many on the dead list did you say?
[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_04]: 227.
[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_04]: 227.
[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I had 225 as of a few minutes ago.
[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_09]: So, yeah.
[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_04]: So, it's death tolls rising.
[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's just astonishing to me that the head of the FEMA, this, what's her name again?
[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Deanne Criswell.
[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_04]: She's saying, golly, you're making our people out in the field feel bad if you report that.
[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, just come on.
[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Wine, wine, wine.
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_04]: A very fine wine.
[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So, anyway, I guess some of these are pretty sanitized responses.
[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_04]: The people that are in the gritty of it, I think, are probably going to give you a little different report.
[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Some of the things have been quite, you know, people feel isolated and no communication whatsoever going on.
[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Nobody has come by and said, hey, how's it going, guy?
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Can I get you off your roof?
[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Or whatever, you know?
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, let me tell you a little story that I find fascinating.
[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_09]: So, this Dylan guy calls me back.
[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I muted myself while you're talking, took his call.
[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_09]: He said, hey, who are you?
[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_09]: What are you doing?
[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_09]: What's going on?
[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_09]: I explained I'm at Liberty Roundtable Live, a nationally syndicated radio show.
[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_09]: I want to get the details.
[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Can you come on the radio with me?
[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_09]: He goes, yeah.
[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm about to go into like a city council meeting or whatever, but I can probably do it.
[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And then I said, okay, well, you know, can you do it like right at the top of the next hour or whatever?
[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_09]: And he said, yeah, that might work.
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_09]: And then he said, now, who is this again?
[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_09]: And I said, this is, I'm a nationally syndicated show at Liberty Roundtable.
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_09]: So, he's like, yeah, that's a little bit.
[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_09]: And then all of a sudden, I got disconnected.
[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, I call him back and I get nothing but voicemail.
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_09]: So, I'm not here to say this guy's avoiding me because I could be wrong.
[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_09]: It could be that he ran out of batteries or, you know, I don't know the explanation yet.
[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm not going to jump to any conclusions and throw this guy into the bus.
[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_09]: He might be a good guy.
[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just saying, very strange, though.
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_09]: See, why would I get a call back like that that he finds out who I am and then he's just like, hmm.
[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not here to beat the guy up.
[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just going to ask him, hey, there's all kinds of allegations out there.
[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_09]: What's true?
[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_09]: What's not?
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_09]: How bad is it?
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_09]: How bad is it?
[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_09]: How can people help?
[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, is there a lot of private sector work?
[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_09]: And who's coordinating what?
[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_09]: And do you have anybody else you can refer me to that can give me more information on the ground?
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_09]: And those are the nature of my questions.
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what?
[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_04]: They're very fair questions.
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And honestly, and I know you well enough that you're not going to be accusatory.
[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_04]: In fact, sometimes I almost feel like you give everybody way too much the benefit of the doubt.
[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_09]: But I do that, doctor, because I'm not here just to bring someone on and beat them up.
[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm here to let them tell their story.
[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, if we disagree with it, we have every right to disagree with it.
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_09]: But they have every right to not.
[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_09]: If they're going to come on the radio and be gracious enough to at least come on the radio,
[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_09]: then we have to at least let them have their fair, you know, respectful say, right?
[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_04]: You give, and one thing I've recognized with you is you give people an opportunity to tell their story.
[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And if they don't want to tell their story, I don't know, there could be any number of reasons why that is.
[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they don't have a story and maybe they're pretty ashamed of it.
[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_04]: It could be any number of things.
[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It could be anything.
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And so.
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_09]: And I wanted to put the guy on the radio right then, except for I just felt like I should explain to him who I was and what I was doing.
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_09]: And if he really had a meeting, we could do it right after.
[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_09]: I could have him on tomorrow, but I never got to finish the conversation.
[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Now I'm calling him back right now.
[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_09]: See if you can hear this.
[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Will you run him through the top of the hour if he's available?
[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Of course.
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I want to put him on the radio.
[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_09]: I want to get all the information that I can get.
[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not here to pick sides.
[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't care if he's a Republican or a Democrat or I'm going to leave him another message here.
[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Just, you know, give him the benefit of the doubt.
[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not sure if, you know, I mean, it's possible that his battery ran out or something happened and he's trying to get to a better location.
[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not saying for sure this guy's not whatever, but it was sure interesting.
[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_09]: We had a great connection until, you know, he's like, who is this?
[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_09]: And I started explaining.
[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_09]: And then he's like, that's a little.
[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what that means.
[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if he's like, that's a little too soon for me to be on.
[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_09]: That's a little, you know, I don't know.
[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_09]: And like I say, all right, hold on.
[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_09]: He's going to, I'm waiting for the beep again so I can leave the message here, folks.
[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_09]: You guys are getting this real time just so you know.
[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Hello, Mr. Huffman.
[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_09]: This is Sam Bushman calling again, Liberty Roundtable Live.
[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_09]: I appreciate you calling me back.
[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you so much for your call.
[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_09]: We got cut off and I'm not sure if your battery went out or, you know, anyway, I'm hoping you can please call me back.
[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_09]: We can finish the conversation.
[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_09]: I'd just like to kind of run truth to ground on some of this stuff.
[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm hoping you can also point me in the direction of being able to get information on the ground from reliable sources.
[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Again, I don't want any of the confusion.
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I want, you know, accurate information of what's actually happening on the ground.
[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_09]: We are a nationally syndicated radio show.
[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Would love your assistance, sir.
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Again, my name is Sam Bushman.
[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_09]: My number is 801-756-9133.
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_09]: That's 801-756-9133.
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'll look forward to your call, sir, at your convenience.
[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you so much for your time.
[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_09]: All right, so you guys have heard the two messages that I've left him.
[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_09]: The only thing you didn't hear is the conversation in between because I was muted just trying to, I thought he was going to come on the radio.
[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_09]: He sounded very nice and helpful and willing.
[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_09]: And then we got cut off and I just don't know.
[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just strange to me that that would happen, doctor.
[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not here to make allegations.
[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just saying very weird that it all of a sudden disappear and then not, you know, respond in any way.
[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, you remember back in 2008 where we were trying to get to the bottom of these fusion centers and people that had a pro-life sticker on the back of their car or a Second Amendment sticker or a pro-Chuck Baldwin or a pro-Ron Paul were considered to be domestic terrorists.
[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_04]: You remember the calls we made to that?
[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes.
[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.
[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_09]: We did those calls live.
[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And on top of that, we got all busied out.
[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Ultimately, they shut off all their lines.
[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_04]: There was nobody we could talk to.
[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_09]: That's just because we have no impact.
[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, no, it's because they're afraid to answer things in a real-life, real-time situation.
[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I've just found some very interesting.
[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm willing to give anybody the benefit of the doubt, people.
[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_09]: I want to hammer that home.
[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm willing to let anybody, you know, say, hey, if this is not happening in your view or whatever, you know, the so-and-so whatever says this is not happening or this is happening or whatever.
[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, what do you know about this?
[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's that kind of thing.
[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Do you have anybody that's closer to the action that might give you more information?
[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_09]: That's how we run this stuff down in the news business.
[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, of course, you know, the mainstream press has a better Rolodex than I have.
[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_09]: They can get a hold of the Donald or get a hold of different people.
[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_09]: See, I'd like to know what President Trump is doing for the relief effort.
[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's an unknown, too, also.
[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But we should know, shouldn't we?
[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it would seem that there'd be an interest on his part to be able to.
[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, everything's a press release.
[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, no news.
[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, no press release is bad press because it gets your name in front of everybody again.
[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you'd think like Donald would want to do things.
[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Kamala would.
[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, come on, people.
[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I've just found a USA Today set of, oh, fact-checking kind of things.
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Here's one.
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_04]: FEMA does not have enough money to provide disaster assistance for Helene.
[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a rumor, okay?
[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And the fact is it's false.
[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, here's their answer.
[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_04]: The agency has enough money for immediate response and recovery needs, the release noted.
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay?
[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So they don't say anything about it.
[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Which means they're going to nuance the lie.
[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_09]: They're going to say it's false.
[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Then they're going to admit that it's true, but we have enough for the immediate needs.
[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_09]: So it all depends on how you define needs, right?
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And on top of that, immediate could be, well, the first 15 seconds and we're toast.
[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, we did have money a little bit ago.
[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_04]: We spent it all on immigration.
[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's how they lie, and that's why you can't trust.
[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't trust anything out there hardly at all now.
[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_09]: I have no way to gain solid information.
[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_09]: And I expect there's going to be more and more and more of this in the future with just about every topic under the sun.
[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_09]: By the way, I've been, you know, reading the USA Today, and over the weekend there was just article after article after article after article.
[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_09]: This news story has been debunked.
[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_09]: This video has been faked.
[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_09]: This whatever has been faked, and you just can't get a handle on anything.
[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Hour one of the can, hour two coming up.
[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_09]: We will ferret out the truth, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_09]: That's who we are, and it takes some reporter experience to get it done.
[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_09]: God save us all, please.