* Guest: Heath Perkins, Over the past 50 years, The Rust Family has been working to educate customers about precious metals - FreeWaterCoinCo.com
* Honest Money Report: Gold - $2648.50 Silver - $31.81.
* ‘I’m a knucklehead at times’: Tim Walz lied about attending deadly Tiananmen Square protests - TheBlaze.com
* Who won the Vice Presidential Debate?
* Who lost the Vice Presidential Debate and why?
* Sam Bushman: Vance-Walz Debate 'Boring'!
* When You Know It Was an A**-Whoopin’ NY Times Headline Following Debate: “Vance’s Dominant Debate Performance Shows Why He’s Trump’s Running Mate” - Jim Hoft.
* Talking Heads on CNN Forced to Admit J.D. Vance Won the VP Debate: ‘Walz Did Not Seem Prepared’ - Mike LaChance.
* Shame! CBS moderators Nora O'Donnell and Margaret Brennan, Did Fact Check.
* JD Vance delivered a devastating verbal takedown of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, and the Trump campaign wasted no time fact-checking Walz’s blunders.
* “Senator Vance unequivocally won tonight’s debate in dominating fashion. It was the best debate performance from any Vice-Presidential candidate in history.
* Sam Breaks Down the Debate Using Audio Clips Provides Unique Commentary from a God, Family and Country Perspective!
* The only alternative to the continuing resolution at this stage would have been a government shutdown. "It would be political malpractice to shut the government down," Johnson said. Johnson warned that when the new extension expires in December, he will not support a massive, catchall bill to fund the government, referred to as an omnibus, so another stopgap may be needed that would allow the new president and Congress to have the final say on fiscal 2025 spending.
* Hey Mike Johnson: Isn't It 'Political Malpractice' To Continue To Fund Unconstitutional Government Over And Over Again With No End In Sight?
[00:00:13] Live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show
[00:00:22] All right, happy to have you along my fellow Americans Sam Bushman live on your radio
[00:00:29] Hard-hitting news the network refuse to use no doubt starts now
[00:00:32] This is the broadcast for October the 3rd in the year of our Lord
[00:00:37] This is our one of two the goal always to protect life, liberty and property to promote God family and country
[00:00:43] To stand for pro-life using the supreme law that and the whole purpose of government is to promote life
[00:00:49] Liberty and property by the way we reject revolution unless it's a peaceful
[00:00:54] Jesus revolution then we're in because we follow the Prince of Peace. Welcome to the show. Hope you're all doing absolutely fantastic
[00:01:00] listen last hour folks
[00:01:02] Or I shouldn't say last hour yesterday
[00:01:04] We had some internet glitches. So we did not finish the show just put on a rebroadcast
[00:01:10] But before that we talked about who won the vice presidential debate and um, you know, I maintain the following
[00:01:17] Really who lost the presidential debate? That's what you need to be asking yourselves. And why did they lose it?
[00:01:23] I submit to you that you know what jenny vance won big time if you look at the left right paradigm of red and blue
[00:01:29] We're republican and democrat no doubt and jenny vance no doubt came across very poised very
[00:01:34] You know educated articulate. I mean he's an attorney after all and he's been on the debate stage a lot
[00:01:40] And uh done a lot of interviews to kind of harden himself and season himself for this
[00:01:43] Walls has been avoiding the interviews therefore he came on stage look nervous made some serious
[00:01:49] missteps to say the least
[00:01:51] The biggest one he said he's been hanging out with the shooters. He's friends with the shooters
[00:01:55] A lot of people are beating him up saying it's the hugest gaffed forever and I agree that it's a big
[00:02:00] Big mistake to say that but at the same time, you know, we all know that tim did not mean that
[00:02:05] He just meant I've made friends with some of the sandy hook families and some of the other families where tragedy has occurred
[00:02:11] And so I understand that I've changed my views because of that
[00:02:14] You know, he made a mistake in speaking
[00:02:16] But you know what a lot of people who don't have national
[00:02:19] Media experience and or on the national stage hit the spotlight a lot of people freeze up
[00:02:24] A lot of people say things they don't mean they're they get tongue tied. They get out of order. They wait a minute
[00:02:29] That's not what I meant. So let's not take advantage of someone because of their words remember in the scriptures. That's not what you do
[00:02:36] Okay, you don't dig a pit for your neighbor. All right
[00:02:39] And so I appreciate that tim wall said something goofy and it didn't go over. Well, I get all that
[00:02:43] I also get though that i'm not going to take advantage of him
[00:02:47] Beings of his words
[00:02:47] So who lost the vice presidential debate in my opinion if you get rid of the republican democratic game playing
[00:02:53] The left right paradigm and you reject that which you need to
[00:02:57] Then I submit to you that the people that really won
[00:03:02] Were the media
[00:03:03] And they got paid a bunch of money to run their commercials in the debate and they got on the national stage promoting the mainstream press again
[00:03:09] It's a disgrace
[00:03:11] But the american people lost the debate because nobody talked about things that will change the country
[00:03:17] Now they argued about stupid things
[00:03:19] All right, so sam bushman. This is my comment. Hey this uh
[00:03:24] Vance walls debate. It was flat out boring
[00:03:27] When you know it was a quote a weapon
[00:03:30] The new york times had the headline following the debate vances
[00:03:37] Dominant debate shows why he was picked as trumps running mate. There you go, you know
[00:03:42] Talking heads on cnn forced to admit that vance won but see it's all the left right paradigm
[00:03:47] Shame cbs moderators
[00:03:50] Did fact check when they claimed they wouldn't
[00:03:53] All right, then they had to basically, you know deal with this issue where I mean it's a disgrace folks
[00:03:59] Deal with this issue where basically, um
[00:04:03] They cut off his mic because they didn't want him fact checking their fact checking
[00:04:08] And it turns out their fact checking was totally wrong
[00:04:14] Now I believe that the main or the
[00:04:17] The conservatives literally took it way too far too and they acted like it was just an absolute
[00:04:21] smashing
[00:04:22] Uh of walls
[00:04:25] They say it was the best debate performance from any
[00:04:29] Vice president of trochanan in history. I don't know that it was that good
[00:04:33] I think they're over talking at big time in that regard, but there you have that
[00:04:37] um
[00:04:38] I was playing sound bites of this yesterday first hour and those who heard me live got those sound bites
[00:04:43] Um, i'm gonna play a couple of sound bites really quick right now here in a minute
[00:04:48] But I wanted you to know that I break down the debate using audio clips providing unique
[00:04:53] commentary from a god family and country perspective
[00:04:56] The only person that mentioned god at all was walls and he's like i don't talk about my faith often
[00:05:00] But and he whipped out this scripture
[00:05:02] It wasn't and I hate to say this because I don't mean to judge someone's character, but it seemed to me that it wasn't really a genuine
[00:05:08] Uh effort to promote belief in god. It was really just uh, I better throw out a scripture. So I mentioned god
[00:05:14] But god wasn't really mentioned in the debate much at all
[00:05:18] It was basically a sad tale to tell all right. I've got clip 16. I literally created 21 clips for this
[00:05:24] Plus and so here's clip 16 and i'm making comments as we go senator
[00:05:28] Where are you going to seize the federal lands? Can you clarify?
[00:05:32] Well, what donald trump has said is we have a lot of federal lands that aren't being used for anything
[00:05:35] They're not being used for national park
[00:05:37] They're not being used and they could be places where we build a lot of housing
[00:05:41] And I do think that we should be opening up building in this country
[00:05:44] We have a lot of land that could be used. We have a lot of americans that need homes
[00:05:49] We should be kicking out illegal immigrants who are competing for those homes
[00:05:53] And we should be building more homes for the american citizens who deserve to be here
[00:05:57] I agree that we need to kick out those um illegals that are vying for homes
[00:06:02] Especially the criminals and such like that
[00:06:04] Um, but you know what this is why I say the american people lost this debate. Do you want to use the federal land?
[00:06:11] Oh, that's the first lie isn't it people?
[00:06:13] It isn't federal land at all if you look at your supreme law the land the federal government can have land for certain purposes
[00:06:19] There's an enumerated list
[00:06:22] Of why the federal government can have land, okay?
[00:06:25] And frankly housing is not on there
[00:06:27] So that's my point. Do you want the federal land to be called federal and lie to you about whose land it is
[00:06:33] It's state land
[00:06:35] Okay, and if it's federal land do you want to debate on if it's the republicans or the democrats plan of how to use it?
[00:06:41] See that's all they're talking about. That's why the american people lost vance won because he was articulate
[00:06:47] Hey, we got to kick the immigrants out and give it to the american people that sounds great
[00:06:52] But it isn't constitutionally the truth you see
[00:06:55] And that's why I say the american people lost vance won in the mainstream press paradigm no doubt
[00:07:00] They all won they got rich on it and you know them, but why don't we have an honest debate?
[00:07:05] Why don't you have somebody like a moderator like me who is not willing to lay it out and say, you know what jade vance?
[00:07:10] I appreciate that comment
[00:07:12] But it isn't federal land in the first place. You show me constitutionally mr. Attorney at law
[00:07:19] Mr. Harvard
[00:07:20] Yale graduate or whatever you show me where it says the federal government can take
[00:07:25] You know the president has the authority to just go ahead and dictate that one
[00:07:28] This is federal land and two we're going to use it for housing. Where is that in the constitution?
[00:07:32] It doesn't exist buddy. So if we want a fact check, let's do it shall we
[00:07:36] All right, here's number 17 clip
[00:07:40] Senator on that point i'd like for you to clarify there are many contributing factors to high housing costs
[00:07:47] What evidence do you have that migrants?
[00:07:50] Are part of this problem?
[00:07:52] Well, there's a federal reserve study that we're happy to share after the debate
[00:07:55] We'll put it up on social media actually that really drills down on the connection between increased levels of migration
[00:08:01] Especially illegal immigration and higher housing prices now, of course
[00:08:05] Margaret that's not the entire driver of higher housing prices. It's also the regulatory regime of Kamala Harris
[00:08:11] Look, we are a country of builders. We're a country of doers. We're a country of explorers
[00:08:16] But we increasingly have a federal administration that makes it harder to develop our resources
[00:08:22] Makes it harder to build things and wants to throw people in jail
[00:08:26] For not doing everything exactly as Kamala Harris says they have to do
[00:08:31] And what that means is that you have a lot of people who would love to build homes who aren't able to build homes
[00:08:36] I actually agree with tim waltz
[00:08:38] We should get out of this idea of housing as a commodity
[00:08:41] But the thing that has most turned housing into a commodity is giving it away to millions upon millions of people
[00:08:48] Who have no legal right to be here
[00:08:50] See he's right on the facts. We don't need to give housing to illegals
[00:08:54] That's right. But we also need the government to subsidize and fund housing for the american citizens either
[00:08:59] We don't need that it's unconstitutional. There's no authority for the government to be in it at all
[00:09:05] But he derails he talks about the you know Harris regime and that they're you know policies are horrible for the economy
[00:09:10] He's right again
[00:09:13] But he quotes a federal reserve
[00:09:15] Study to show that housing problems are there
[00:09:18] I mean, I get it. He's right. You can put up that
[00:09:21] federal reserve article
[00:09:23] It's all true
[00:09:24] But the problem that I have with it is the only time we're going to mention the federal reserve is when we're going to quote them as the quote
[00:09:28] You know appropriate go-to source for your evidence
[00:09:32] Well, the federal reserve is a criminal enterprise of banking thugs that have raped our money
[00:09:37] If you have fiat money is going to fail in the federal reserves at the center of it
[00:09:40] It's a criminal enterprise for over 100 years. Are you going to talk about that jd?
[00:09:44] Because let's fact check where in the constitution does the federal reserve have any authority whatsoever
[00:09:49] All right, it's not federal
[00:09:52] At all okay, but furthermore
[00:09:55] If we're going to talk about honest money and we're going to do that jd vance because you didn't do that either
[00:09:59] See you quote the federal reserve as a credible source
[00:10:03] I don't mean to be rude but shame on you jd. You see this is what I mean by the left right paradigm
[00:10:06] All we're saying is we can create fake money. We universally agree to that
[00:10:09] We're going to spend it republican style not democrat style
[00:10:13] Because the republican style is better. You see and that's the lie the american people lost
[00:10:17] We shouldn't have government involved in housing at all shut down those unconstitutional fannie Mae freddy mac government programs
[00:10:25] And then indict the criminal federal reserve by the way, did you know I had a friend that did that back in the 1980s?
[00:10:31] Go ahead and skip the break
[00:10:33] Um, we'll go ahead and grab our guest but let's play this sound bite while we're waiting here
[00:10:37] Uh, number 18. Let's do this one and talk about it
[00:10:40] Donald trump has said that if we allow states to experiment a little bit on how to cover both the chronically ill
[00:10:46] But the non chronically ill it's not just a plan
[00:10:49] He actually implemented some of these regulations when he was president of the united states
[00:10:54] And I think you can make a really good argument that it salvaged obama care
[00:10:57] Which was doing disasterously until donald trump came along
[00:11:00] And I think this is an important point about president trump
[00:11:03] Of course, you don't have to agree with everything that president trump has ever said or ever done
[00:11:08] But when obama care was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and health care costs
[00:11:14] Donald trump could have destroyed the program instead
[00:11:16] He worked in a bipartisan way to ensure that americans had access to affordable care
[00:11:23] Wow, he's basically saying that donald trump saved obama care
[00:11:29] Let's play 19
[00:11:31] number 19
[00:11:35] But in reality donald trump was president inflation was low
[00:11:39] Take home pay was higher and he saved the very program from a democratic administration
[00:11:44] That was collapsing and would have collapsed absent his leadership
[00:11:48] He did his job which is governed in a bipartisan way and get results not just complain about problems, but actually solve them
[00:11:56] There you have it. So basically jade vance is literally saying that donald trump saved
[00:12:03] obama care
[00:12:05] And this just blows up
[00:12:08] Any trust that you have in the republican party
[00:12:12] The house of representatives
[00:12:14] Literally voted like 40 times to get rid of obama care
[00:12:18] donald trump literally was involved in a lawsuit to get rid of obama care
[00:12:25] But when push comes to shove
[00:12:27] Ladies and gentlemen think about this when push comes to shove
[00:12:31] We find out that not only did they vote 40 times to get rid of obama care when they had the real chance to vote for it
[00:12:37] They wouldn't do it
[00:12:39] donald trump went on a lawsuit to get rid of obama care
[00:12:43] But when really push comes to shove he saved
[00:12:46] The program according to his vice presidential candidate
[00:12:52] He didn't even get challenged by walls about that
[00:12:55] Because walls knows the truth
[00:12:57] Walls knows that the republicans saved obama care
[00:13:01] You see obama care would have failed under its own weight. Let me explain
[00:13:04] Anybody that wanted pre-existing conditions covered anybody who had serious health problems would jump on the program left and right by the thousands by the millions
[00:13:12] But anybody who was healthy didn't want to jump on that because they didn't want to pay these
[00:13:17] Outrageous premiums and this and that and get you know caught up in this thing
[00:13:20] And so the only way to make sure the system didn't fail was to force
[00:13:26] All the non sick people all the healthy people who didn't really want the plan to join the plan too
[00:13:32] Donald trump literally saved obama care
[00:13:37] So I just find that fascinating and it takes you know, I don't know when obama care was put in place
[00:13:42] But 2008 2012 can arrange right?
[00:13:46] Then the big old push by republicans claiming they were going to get rid of it get rid of it get rid of it no matter what
[00:13:51] And then we find out in 2024 literally like 10 years at least later or more
[00:13:56] The donald trump saved it the republicans saved it when they had the chance to vote for it
[00:14:03] Well, they voted to keep it they didn't vote to get rid of it
[00:14:06] Except when they could make political hay out of voting against it knowing full well that it wouldn't shut anything down that it would be a
[00:14:13] Kind of a token vote so they could go on record of being against it
[00:14:16] This is proof of how they use these issues
[00:14:19] And they point at the left right and the deceptive dishonest divide paradigm
[00:14:23] To deceive us and distract us folks the fact is they're all for obama care and the proof is in
[00:14:30] The pudding. All right, we got heath with us ladies and gentlemen. Heath has taken the place of brian
[00:14:37] On the radio. We're talking about free water coin co.com. Heath welcome to liberty round table live sir
[00:14:43] Thank you sam. Good to be here
[00:14:45] All right, so just so everybody understands you're what brian the grandson
[00:14:48] Uh, so brian, uh, I live next to brian since I was five years old and he's my foster dad for about a year and a half
[00:14:56] All right. I love it because brian is just a hero when it's three generations
[00:15:00] Of rust family and then you got drafted into the business to be involved and help as well
[00:15:04] I really appreciate all that they've been in it for more than 50 years talking about honest money constitutional currency and more
[00:15:11] Um, let's see. Where's gold sitting right now?
[00:15:14] so gold sitting about
[00:15:15] Uh, $2,648
[00:15:20] 26 48 uh any cents?
[00:15:24] Uh 50 cents
[00:15:25] All right, 26 48
[00:15:30] 50 26 48 50 silver
[00:15:33] Uh, you're at 31 81
[00:15:39] 31 81 man a lot of that hasn't changed too much. Do we expect a lot of times in the economy? Um,
[00:15:45] pete there are uh, what do they call them october surprises
[00:15:50] Uh, you think with this turmoil election season, we're gonna see an october surprise. I know it's guesswork on your part
[00:15:55] But what do you think?
[00:15:56] um, when you've already had uh, I ran launch all those missiles into israel
[00:16:02] So yes, october already is having some surprises to begin with
[00:16:06] Um, so it it's it's starting. Yeah. Um, I don't see that
[00:16:12] Um october has always been kind of a weird month for economics. Um, we had the crash in october
[00:16:18] um in 1929
[00:16:20] And it's just been a weird month
[00:16:22] historically as well
[00:16:24] It's probably because halloween's at the end of it. You know what i'm saying?
[00:16:28] I agree
[00:16:29] 100
[00:16:31] Very strange step. I'll tell you that right now
[00:16:33] Now I also find that interesting these october surprises, you know to have israel launch this missile barrage
[00:16:40] And kind of do a what do they call it a preemptive strike when the president?
[00:16:45] Well, let me say this when kamala was asked and when
[00:16:50] JD vance and um
[00:16:51] Walls were all asked about you know this would they um to support the preemptive strike, you know jade vance said it's up to israel what they do
[00:16:59] Um, but it isn't up to israel whether we would support a first strike or not. I don't support a first preemptive strike
[00:17:05] Because I always have hope that we don't want to be the first to go to arms
[00:17:10] We don't want to be the one to fire the first shot so to speak
[00:17:12] We want to be the ones to go on the record as the diplomatic folks that say look
[00:17:16] We can peacefully sit down at the table of negotiation and we can work through this in a meaningful way, etc
[00:17:21] Etc. So I would have been very clear if it were me on the debate stage saying no
[00:17:25] I don't support a preemptive strike and here's why I follow the prince of peace
[00:17:28] And the prince of peace would do our very best to be diplomatic and patient and kind and and hope for resolution
[00:17:34] Sit down at the table of negotiation as long as we possibly could
[00:17:40] But neither candidate said that at all heath i'm surprised
[00:17:48] Okay, mike from alaska. Do you want to chime in on this real quick? Hi mike you're on the radio
[00:17:57] All right. Good morning gentlemen. Uh, I'm telling you right now. Vance is a sleeper
[00:18:02] He's a land grabber
[00:18:04] Trump's a land grabber. He didn't reverse any of those bogus
[00:18:08] National monuments like down in sanga beryl
[00:18:10] prime mining ground
[00:18:12] I'm a gold miner. So I've been following land issues my whole life
[00:18:16] uh solar mirrors
[00:18:18] Wind turbines are killing our wildlife
[00:18:21] Taking our precious
[00:18:23] land
[00:18:24] Excuse me. I've been hiking uphill here. Let me stop
[00:18:29] Um, but I guarantee you
[00:18:32] We don't need to build any more homes. Look at california
[00:18:36] It's a crap hole from border to border
[00:18:39] The only thing left of it's east of the high sierra's up north
[00:18:44] Uh, god forbid they start building there
[00:18:46] But uh, vance is a land grabber. He's a he's a waffle waffle maker
[00:18:52] I really don't like him
[00:18:55] I think he's sneaky. He didn't really answer any of
[00:18:58] The important issue issues. He didn't ask anything about
[00:19:02] Stolen valor like blumenthal blumenthal and him
[00:19:06] Our buddies. Yeah, it's a wise point. You're right about that mike. I appreciate the call. Thank you so much
[00:19:11] You're right about that 100% all i'm telling you is look he he made it sound good. He's an attorney
[00:19:17] So it you know, like I say from the left right paradigm of republican democratic one-handling
[00:19:22] Um, but uh from a we the people that's why my whole phrase about this whole election cycle is we the people
[00:19:29] Are the one that lost now there's a headline that I find interesting too
[00:19:33] headline says quote i'm gonna go ahead at times
[00:19:36] tim walls lied
[00:19:39] About attending the tenement square protests
[00:19:42] And that's the blaze with this piece basically highlighting look
[00:19:46] Tim lies about that and it's supposedly fine
[00:19:49] It's just shocking to me how this all goes down. The question is
[00:19:54] How is it when it comes to money heath when both the republicans and democrats they didn't talk about really reducing debt at all
[00:20:01] They basically everything they said would increase debt
[00:20:04] And then when it was brought up that hey both of your plans would increase debt big time
[00:20:08] What do you say about it? They kind of just sidestepped and said man, we're for the american people
[00:20:12] You know, we got a candy in every dish for just for you heath
[00:20:17] Yeah, that's all they said right
[00:20:20] I mean we're we're already on pace and we're every 90 days. We have a trillion dollars in interest
[00:20:26] And you know most of the u.s. Is treasury bills that that are issued our debt in a sense
[00:20:32] Those are 10 years and so we have you know, we've only been increasing the interest rates on these t bills for the last year
[00:20:40] Little a little shy of two years
[00:20:43] We still have eight more years to go with higher interest rates in our and our largest group of t bills, which is the 10 year note
[00:20:50] um, I mean I got my degree in economics and
[00:20:55] Years ago. This was back in in what 2012 and we were only sitting about 15 billion
[00:21:02] for the national debt and I asked my professor who was a
[00:21:05] who was a
[00:21:06] Central banker from the world bank in canada
[00:21:08] I asked him one question. His name is a mere tia
[00:21:11] And he's iranian and I said hey, what happens when we start increasing the interest rates?
[00:21:15] Because we were you know pretty low back then as well
[00:21:18] And he just said god help us all if we can't afford the interest
[00:21:21] Like there's a point where
[00:21:23] You know, this interest is going to sink america and as soon as we default on that debt
[00:21:28] Um because of these interest payments, we can't afford because we just have too much of it
[00:21:32] I mean there's there's going to be a lot of pain and you know the can can't be kicked down any further
[00:21:38] Like when you can't afford your interest payments, you are absolutely broke and the nation is
[00:21:45] Well and people need to understand the reason that interest rates are so hostile so abusive especially with the numbers high
[00:21:52] Is because interest never sleeps. It's 24 seven interest never gets sick interest never has a down day
[00:22:01] Interest never okay, and so when you're fighting against that
[00:22:05] Um, you know people do get sick people do make mistakes people do get tired people do lose jobs people do
[00:22:11] suffer at the hands of of reality as life takes its toll
[00:22:15] Interest doesn't change any of that. You know, you lose your job
[00:22:18] You get sick your spouse passes away whatever happens to you
[00:22:21] Every one of those things puts you at greater risk
[00:22:25] But interest never bends never gives never stops never ends kind of thing
[00:22:29] And that's really the problem that people just don't understand
[00:22:34] Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's gonna be a brutal thing for us to realize when it starts to to show its
[00:22:40] You know full self if you will
[00:22:43] um
[00:22:44] And and on top of that. I mean we had
[00:22:47] Um, I think a statement made by you know the treasury secretary janet yelling that I I feel
[00:22:53] I think a general should pretty much arrest her for it but
[00:22:56] Um, she made the statement that america has the ability to fund
[00:23:01] Two wars but can't fund three
[00:23:04] Um pretty much, you know giving the rest of whoever wants to go against us
[00:23:09] You know the idea that if we go to three fronts with america they can't do it
[00:23:13] Um, you know, it's I mean these wars
[00:23:16] Aren't going to help our bankruptcy. You know
[00:23:19] You know, we're already there and and the war is just going to push us closer and faster
[00:23:27] I don't know how to handle that but yeah, she said you she could think we can handle
[00:23:32] Both ukraine and israel in their respective war efforts without hindering the nation's economy
[00:23:36] Now that's a flat out blatant lie fake news peddling bogus
[00:23:40] We can't even handle our own lives without wars because we're 35 trillion in debt, eth
[00:23:46] Oh, yeah, I mean just the interest alone again
[00:23:48] A trillion I mean people don't comprehend what a trillion is like no one comes around
[00:23:52] Which billion is?
[00:23:56] All right, it's say it's insane ladies and gentlemen. Hank tight heath is with me
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[00:30:46] Heath Perkins with us ladies and gentlemen with
[00:30:51] Our dear friends over at free water quinn co.com. That's free water quinn co.com. We're talking about honest money
[00:30:58] And uh, we've been talking a little bit about the um
[00:31:04] debate
[00:31:05] Mixed with kind of honest money news because I think they're completely related to the debate
[00:31:09] They didn't neither talked about cutting spending really at all neither talked about the incredible out of control
[00:31:14] 35 trillion dollar debt and glow growing at alarming rate
[00:31:17] Heath was talking about how interest is so abusive and will never be able to handle the interest
[00:31:22] Because it never sleeps
[00:31:24] It never goes away
[00:31:27] headline
[00:31:28] the only alternative
[00:31:30] To the quote continuing resolution, which means kick the can town the road by congress
[00:31:35] At this stage would have been a government shutdown
[00:31:38] It would have been quote political malpractice to shut down the government
[00:31:43] Johnson said
[00:31:46] Anyway, um, I asked this question
[00:31:48] Hey, Mike Johnson
[00:31:50] Isn't it quote political malpractice
[00:31:53] To continue to fund unconstitutional government over and over with no end in sight?
[00:31:59] Isn't that
[00:32:01] Political malpractice heath
[00:32:03] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah
[00:32:05] No, I mean it's it's interesting everyone thinks the right the left this or that. Um, I mean
[00:32:12] Let's go back to you know bush
[00:32:15] George w. I mean he started with five trillion in eight years. He went to 10
[00:32:20] You go to obama obama started with 10 he went to 20 and you go to trump trump started with
[00:32:27] 20 he went to 27 he was he was on pace to out
[00:32:31] Spend even obama
[00:32:33] I mean they all spend like it's just a constant thing like no one's getting out of it
[00:32:38] It doesn't matter which side has office they both spend and you have to stop this
[00:32:44] In some form or else, you know, this can
[00:32:48] You know being kicked down the road eventually is gonna just it's huge
[00:32:52] I mean we can't this interest and everything else like you just can't afford the debts
[00:32:58] So I don't know when this is going to blow up heath exactly because it's just there's so many factors and they have so many levers of manipulation and everything else
[00:33:06] Um, you know, it's a con game. I'll be the first to tell you that it's a con game because you know
[00:33:10] The only thing I'm holding the dollar right now is the American people and the world's confidence in it
[00:33:14] And you can say well no sin. There's a lot of assets behind it
[00:33:17] There is except for the median of exchange without that confidence can go down tomorrow
[00:33:22] Another value would still be there and you'd have to have something of equitable value for trade
[00:33:27] But look when you can create a hundred dollar bill for two and a half cents
[00:33:31] And then claim it's worth a hundred bucks
[00:33:33] In other words start with a fake news lie
[00:33:36] It's not worth a hundred bucks. It's worth the two and a half cents. It was printed on okay
[00:33:40] And then to pretend it's worth a hundred bucks is the first light and then we're going to charge interest on that hundred bucks also
[00:33:45] Buddy, I mean you could not create a greater con
[00:33:49] To the american people that has been going for a hundred years
[00:33:51] And I'm bringing it up literally almost every day on your radio because it's so vital so critical to everything else downstream to the discussion
[00:33:57] They literally have a debate for an hour and a half and they don't bring it up once in fact vance was praising the federal reserve
[00:34:03] As his evidence about taxes and stuff like this
[00:34:09] Well, it's hilarious because you you have this idea that um
[00:34:14] You know
[00:34:15] You have ownership over over your dollars and the answer is no you don't have ownership over your dollars
[00:34:21] You're a steward over your dollars every dollar that's been issued by the federal reserve is owed back to the federal reserve with interest
[00:34:29] Like these are debt notes. They're they're not notes
[00:34:33] That have any substance to them
[00:34:34] And I mean there's a statement
[00:34:36] Um kind of a theology in a sense that you know gold used to be the
[00:34:41] The currency of kings and nations silver was the the currency of the common people and then debt was the currency of slaves
[00:34:49] And we're there
[00:34:52] So when you think that things
[00:34:56] Are gonna spiral down
[00:34:57] You know what I mean by that is so far. We've seen a dismantling that's been pretty slow. It's like, oh, yeah
[00:35:03] You know the buying power for me isn't as good as it was for my parents
[00:35:06] The buying power for you wasn't as good as for me or whatever and buying power for my kids
[00:35:11] Aren't isn't as good as it was for me and you and and so it's a slow dismantling
[00:35:16] Um, it's like watching a car wreck in slow motion. You know just a disaster
[00:35:20] But yeah, we haven't really um in america besides not being able to afford as nice of a house or whatever else
[00:35:25] We haven't seen massive problems yet. How long till you think they come?
[00:35:31] well, um
[00:35:32] We're at a point where
[00:35:35] Um
[00:35:36] The financial system is overburdened
[00:35:39] We we have a lot of the commercial real estate
[00:35:43] It's out there that's not being utilized. It's it's not being leased out
[00:35:47] I mean here in utah. We have the best economy in the nation. Utah county has kind of the best
[00:35:55] um economy in the state
[00:35:57] And even the little strip mall that I that I work at you know, there's still areas that are that aren't even filled
[00:36:04] You know, it's like this is the best of the best and yet
[00:36:07] There's there's still empty empty real estate for you know commercial leasing like commercial real estate is going to tank a lot of banks
[00:36:15] Um, the unrealized losses that are coming
[00:36:18] You know from from bats as well as some of these
[00:36:24] These regional banks that picked up a bunch of
[00:36:27] Treasury bills when the fed decided to drop um their reserve amounts down to zero
[00:36:32] From that 10 percent amounts like those treasury bills they picked up
[00:36:37] After they dropped down to zero on their reserve amounts
[00:36:41] The interest rates went up after them. So those treasury bills are worth far less
[00:36:45] And so they can get back to a 10 percent reserve if the fed reserve required it
[00:36:49] So like all these banks have issues here and there like
[00:36:54] They're they're not going to
[00:36:56] Play fair this round though. So when you do see a financial
[00:37:00] Collapse this round you're going to have something that's referred to as a bail in
[00:37:04] This bail in option is not going to be a pleasant one and it's going to catch a lot of people off guard, but
[00:37:09] We did the bail out. So not going to allow the bail outs are going to do a bail in which is
[00:37:12] You literally are
[00:37:16] If you're a depositor with a bank the bank has the right legally
[00:37:20] If they start to go insolvent to take your deposits and issue
[00:37:25] shares of their failing bank in its stead
[00:37:28] So
[00:37:30] That's another thing that's coming down the road and and that comes from the very very top, which is the bank of international settlements
[00:37:36] The bis, which is the bank of all banks
[00:37:39] And so there's there's things that are being put into play. They've already tried that the the bail in thing three different times around the world
[00:37:47] Cyprus was the first one
[00:37:49] And and you're looking at you know that as the protocol that all the things are going to go to if
[00:37:54] You start seeing this financial instability
[00:37:57] But we got to look at what the end goal is the end goal is
[00:38:01] All these nations want a digital currency
[00:38:03] Um, they're all pushing for a digital currency. It's nuts
[00:38:06] And the only way to get a digital currency because the people aren't going to accept it
[00:38:11] Is to put the people in a lot of pain
[00:38:13] Then enough pain will make anyone beg for a solution
[00:38:18] And I fear that that's that's the direction that we're going to be taking
[00:38:24] I agree 100 percent and the other question too is are they gonna take us out of this because they know it's going to come crashing down
[00:38:31] they know
[00:38:33] that the
[00:38:34] I don't whatever you want to call it the slow motion kind of thing is going to eventually come to an end
[00:38:39] It's going to be like a train wreck. It's going to be in, you know quick horrible in your face kind of a deal
[00:38:46] It are they get are they going to come out of that by promoting a digital currency?
[00:38:51] And moving to that or is it going to be war or both?
[00:38:56] I mean, you're going to see both. I mean everyone wants to get out of
[00:39:00] You know a downturn with war and so that tends to be it or the war itself could could push up the debt further to where
[00:39:07] All nations are extremely strapped
[00:39:09] And it just happens at that point. I mean there's a few different key points that could that could cause the most pain
[00:39:17] But yeah, it's going to happen. It's going to be a very very quick, you know collapse. It's going to be very systemic
[00:39:24] People don't want to hear that but the reality is, you know
[00:39:27] Every nation has massive amounts of debt. It's not just the u.s
[00:39:31] And most of the reason is when the u.s decides to print money
[00:39:35] The rest of the world kind of has to follow suit as well
[00:39:39] And because of that I mean I mean because we're the reserve currency and so we when we print money
[00:39:45] We have the right to but the rest of the world kind of has to sit back and wait for us to do that
[00:39:49] And the rest of the world wants to print along with us
[00:39:52] Or else their goods become too expensive
[00:39:56] For us to purchase and so they have to devalue their currencies
[00:40:00] continually with the u.s
[00:40:03] And and keep the the pricing kind of similar across the board
[00:40:06] I mean, it's it's just a really bad situation and the system just isn't going to
[00:40:13] I mean it's it's a
[00:40:15] I'd say critical mass like we don't have the ability to
[00:40:18] To continue this kind of debt and this kind of adding. I mean
[00:40:22] It's interesting and yet there are some, you know wild cards that can be played
[00:40:25] I mean if I can pull out a few things here in there, but they've kind of played most their cards
[00:40:29] I don't know. I don't see many cards for them to play
[00:40:32] um
[00:40:33] Coming down the road
[00:40:34] And so we'll see where we're at
[00:40:39] But I don't see it being too far off and ladies and gentlemen heat perkins with me
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[00:43:04] All right back with you live ladies gentlemen. I'm sam bushman
[00:43:07] I've got heath perkins with me. We're talking about honest money. We're talking about october surprises
[00:43:14] We're talking about what might happen in the economy keep perkins hap or heath perkins happens to be with um
[00:43:22] Well, it used to be rush quinn and gift
[00:43:25] But now it's free water quinn co.com and they've been working on precious metals for years ladies and gentlemen
[00:43:31] And uh, all I could tell you is this I believe what's gonna happen
[00:43:34] Just because I don't I don't like it to be on the radio where I ask everybody else what they believe and I don't tell you what I think
[00:43:38] Right
[00:43:39] It's hard to gauge this stuff because they have so many levers as I mentioned before where they can manipulate till the cows come home
[00:43:46] Move you to dishonest money move you to digital currency
[00:43:49] Do this do that they have so many tricks up their sleeves. It's not even funny
[00:43:53] But here's the bottom line. They eventually cannot maintain control
[00:43:57] Okay, they can they can put it off. They can play games
[00:43:59] They can come up with new terms called quantitative easing and they can do all this kind of stuff, right?
[00:44:05] But eventually they will run out of options
[00:44:07] All right, and so right now you've been seeing a slow dismantling over the last 10 20 years 30 40 50 years
[00:44:13] Really a hundred years because of the Federal Reserve
[00:44:17] But the first 50 years weren't too bad
[00:44:20] Then when they took us out the constitutional currency standard it got real bad fast
[00:44:24] When I was a kid like born 1967 people i'm 57 years old in 1967. I don't know if you know, but the minimum wage was a dollar
[00:44:34] And you know what you could support a family pretty decently well on that
[00:44:37] You could save a little bit of money for a vacation, you know once a year once every couple years
[00:44:42] Uh, you could do really well now
[00:44:43] Hey, the minimum wage is 725 federally which is unconstitutional anyway
[00:44:48] But then uh, you know across the country really you got to pay somebody 15 20 bucks an hour
[00:44:52] Or they can't even survive and even at 15 and 20 is a struggle
[00:44:56] That just shows you how debased our currency has become a silver eagle silver dollar used to be worth what?
[00:45:02] A dollar
[00:45:03] Now it's worth almost 40 bucks
[00:45:06] Okay, that if that doesn't tell you I don't know what does a 20 gold piece
[00:45:09] Used to be worth what 20 dollars now it costs what?
[00:45:13] Literally three grand to get one
[00:45:15] 2800 you know something
[00:45:17] Okay, that just tells you the story ladies and gentlemen. So here's what my point is
[00:45:21] I think they've been dismantling it over the last 50 years quite aggressively
[00:45:25] But not so much that it's at the end of the world you still live and you think man things are getting harder, but it's okay
[00:45:31] It's going to in my opinion the first 50 years. This is why I spent so much time on this heath
[00:45:35] The first 50 years was pretty slow
[00:45:39] The second 50 years went much faster the next 50 years will be dissolved into 10 years
[00:45:45] In other words, you will see an escalation like you haven't seen before people will not be able to buy vehicles
[00:45:50] They're just too expensive people will not be able to basically buy houses
[00:45:53] They'll have to live multi-generationally in houses. They just cannot afford it
[00:45:57] The interest will continue to rise rise rise to where we'll be spending more money on interest and war than anything else
[00:46:03] And the only way they can back out of it is to take us to a digital currency
[00:46:07] In other words reset the Ponzi scheme many people biblically call it a jubilee
[00:46:12] Reset the Ponzi scheme and move to a different currency and give everybody kind of credit in the new plan
[00:46:16] As long as the new plan continues to expand they can start all over with their dishonest manipulative shenanigans
[00:46:22] And say they will do that and if that's not enough
[00:46:25] They'll take us to war because war always works. Then you ration then you live like a third world country
[00:46:30] Um really voluntarily and if not that by force
[00:46:35] And justifiably so heath
[00:46:36] So I believe that's where they're headed and if you don't believe me right now
[00:46:39] I've just had friends go to cosco and they say man cosco has got bare shelves
[00:46:43] People are panicking and freaking out right now and i'm not even talking about in the hurricane alley area
[00:46:48] I'm talking about in arizona and other places. So you're already starting to see this
[00:46:53] And you're gonna get more and more and more shortages of things first
[00:46:56] It was tp in coven then it'll be vegetables then it'll be oh my gosh
[00:47:00] There's a listeria outbreak of salad don't eat salad
[00:47:02] Then it'll be and they'll just go round and around and around the barn
[00:47:05] And every time this happens more and more of your life will become disrupted from shootings to bombings to scared tactics to illegals
[00:47:13] To you know, all these different everything will become a societal unrest thing to where in 10 years
[00:47:19] You won't even recognize your country. That's my guess my prediction
[00:47:22] I'm not a prophet, but that's kind of how I see it breaking down
[00:47:26] From what I've seen you look at the past to project the future and that's what i'm seeing is happening, sir
[00:47:32] Yeah, I agree with you
[00:47:34] You asked for a breakdown of what I thought. What do you think?
[00:47:38] I accept yeah, we're we're there and going back to your jubilee comment like
[00:47:44] You know his biblically speaking like the jubilee was was no string detached but this this
[00:47:50] Digital jubilee that you just spoke of kind of saying all the strings are attached. I mean they're not going to just let you have
[00:47:57] I mean this is kind of going back into the world economic forum where they said, you know, you won't own anything
[00:48:02] But you'll be happy. I mean that's the kind of jubilee they want to offer
[00:48:05] it's not
[00:48:06] No strings attached it's every string they get it all and so
[00:48:10] You know this kind of debt forgiveness, you know, they'll they'll
[00:48:15] Make you do a lot of things for that debt forgiveness. It's not going to be a free thing for them
[00:48:20] And the strings attached won't be at first
[00:48:24] Ladies gentlemen, listen carefully to me. This is how they play the game. You'll get basically debt forgiveness
[00:48:28] You'll get a stake in the new currency plan. You'll get they'll make the pie very sweet at first
[00:48:34] All right, but once you're on the plan then what they'll do is they'll kick in the social credit thing
[00:48:39] They'll be like, you know heath
[00:48:41] You were on the radio with sam bushman the other day
[00:48:43] And uh, you know, that's not really good sam's an extreme terrorist
[00:48:46] In fact, they put him on the congressional record as a terrorist for a couple of years now and get none of us factual
[00:48:51] It's all a big absolute fake news lie, but and then they'll start to say therefore
[00:48:55] I don't really think you should be spending the kind of money you're spending
[00:48:59] Heath you're kind of irresponsible and it'll start like that, right?
[00:49:03] yeah
[00:49:05] Well, we know that digital systems coming and let's be honest like
[00:49:10] It it's going to end up being complete control. So they're gonna say, hey, I don't want you to travel
[00:49:15] You know 15 miles from where you live
[00:49:18] So, you know any kind of of transaction you try to make outside of that will be denied
[00:49:22] You know, we don't want you eating more than two hamburgers a month and they can deny the third transaction for that
[00:49:28] Third hamburger you want that much they can control it all at the very end
[00:49:31] I mean that's that's kind of what the digital currency can do
[00:49:34] And with that complete control
[00:49:36] It's a very evil side of things. Um, where the other side of things
[00:49:41] You know, like there's a there's scripture in the Old Testament tag i2a and it talks about you know
[00:49:46] The water host says, you know, the gold is mine. The silver is mine
[00:49:49] and the beauty of gold and silver is
[00:49:53] That is an independent transaction that you can do at any time. It's yours. You own it
[00:49:59] No one else has possession of it. No one can tell you how to spend it. Um, you know, it's kind of very
[00:50:04] The opposition to this digital currency
[00:50:07] Um, and the only way to really opt out of a digital currency
[00:50:12] Down the road and not not play a part in it is is going to be
[00:50:18] Constitutional money gold and silver
[00:50:20] I mean, this is where we're kind of headed. There's the vibe, but it's going to be a painful road
[00:50:24] For those who want to choose not to be in the digital system
[00:50:27] It's going to be a very comfortable and easy and you know, you're just going to slide into that kind of lifestyle
[00:50:33] Because it's what we've been living with the digital system
[00:50:35] They want to make it as comfortable and as easy for you as possible with universal basic income and a few other things but
[00:50:43] You know, it's a slippery slope and you've got to be careful, you know
[00:50:46] you know because what you know what they offer that
[00:50:51] That uh that carrot at the end of stick. I mean it's it's going to have like sam said it's going to have
[00:50:58] Those strings attached that come down the road and they're not going to make it
[00:51:02] Are very difficult for anyone to enter it and make it
[00:51:05] Simple I mean it's going to be very simple for us to
[00:51:08] To just start picking up checks for universal basic income and other things like that when things go south
[00:51:14] And I think you're right. I think the universal basic income is going to be one of the things they're going to do too
[00:51:18] Because look in the economy what they're doing is they're making it more and more and more difficult for jobs
[00:51:22] I mean when you basically put a r versus off, I'm sorry a i not a r. Wow
[00:51:27] A i and then you put alongside that offshoring of jobs. Hey, it's going to go to a Filipino or it's going to go to uh
[00:51:35] Somebody in you know china or somebody in india or somebody or it's going to go to a i
[00:51:40] But either way you're not going to be working in america because you know what you people in america are you people in some of these
[00:51:46] uh countries that that
[00:51:48] What do you call first world or you call them whatever
[00:51:51] You're not going to be able to pay somebody a hundred grand a year to do something when a i can do it
[00:51:54] and hey a Filipino can fill in or something or a
[00:51:58] Indian somebody from india can fill in uh, and so you know you got
[00:52:03] Just say a hundred tasks a i can do uh 70 of them and the indian could do
[00:52:08] 25 of them and you might be able to do five of them at best
[00:52:12] And for that kind of money no thanks and so that's where we're headed
[00:52:15] And so again, you're going to get the squeeze on every front too
[00:52:19] Food costs are going to go up
[00:52:21] Travel expenses are going to go up housing costs are going to go up clothing costs are going to go up fuel or energy costs
[00:52:27] Are going to go up meanwhile you're going to get the squeeze because it's going to be harder and harder and harder
[00:52:31] Uh to see daylight on this thing that's my prediction and they're not going to do it all in your face
[00:52:36] They're going to have reasons for it. They're going to make excuses for it as long as they can
[00:52:40] But when the pardon the pun when the crap hits the fan
[00:52:43] At the end of the day, you're going to see um
[00:52:48] It's just going to be in your face even though it's not intended and then the question is what do the natives do?
[00:52:53] How restless do we become and you know, and then they'll decide whether it's going to be war
[00:52:58] Or peaceful move you into the jubilee kind of economy where you won't own anything own anything, but you'll be happy. I mean that's
[00:53:05] I know that sounds really negative
[00:53:07] But that's what I see happening heath. I really do
[00:53:11] Yeah, I mean it's hard not to see you know this direction. We're trying to take us
[00:53:17] Central bank digital currencies aren't anything new they've been talked about, you know for the last couple years
[00:53:23] They've been implementing them and trying to to come up with the system
[00:53:26] We've been warming us up to you know, digital currency
[00:53:29] With cryptos for a long time, you know, there's there's no
[00:53:34] You know, there's no hiding that that's what they want to move to
[00:53:39] And you know the consequences of us moving to that
[00:53:43] Are we just lose more freedoms?
[00:53:44] and so we have to be very careful with you know, the freedoms that we do have
[00:53:50] And you know, it's easy to say, you know, it's for evil to win. Oh, yeah, that is good men do nothing
[00:53:57] So all right heath question for you. What's your favorite?
[00:54:01] Uh thing at our favorite, you know metal to get mines those nickels right now
[00:54:06] Uh war junk silver those are my favorites
[00:54:10] Yeah, if you're thinking barterings the thing uh, those wartime nickels are under melt right now and they're great buy
[00:54:16] I'm a huge fan of silver right now because it's just more affordable
[00:54:20] And you know, if you have more space to store stuff, I would store more silver
[00:54:25] And the pretty stuff is the silver eagle silver dollar
[00:54:28] They're a little bit of a premium but not too crazy and they're still incredible and man
[00:54:31] They're pristine and awesome and it really is an education for people about what's a dollar
[00:54:35] Will the please will the dollar, you know slim shady dollar, please stand up because which is a real dollar the fake one of the
[00:54:41] Anyway, there you go. All right. He thank you so much sir and god save the republic