[00:00:00] Sam Bushman.
[00:00:02] The people who say the federal government is in charge and they are in control of the states
[00:00:08] and the counties and the people of this country, and that they can tell us what kind of gun
[00:00:14] we have and what kind of a magazine to use and whether what we can use them at all.
[00:00:21] And if we can have a gasoline stove or a gas stove or a gasoline car or just how we act
[00:00:32] every day, it's absurd because that particularization does not exist and Scalia is absolutely
[00:00:41] correct.
[00:00:42] It shows just the opposite.
[00:00:46] And so I again, folks, you can get these on our website, the Supreme Court case for state
[00:00:53] sovereignty.
[00:00:55] And it's always 16 pages.
[00:00:57] And if you wanted something for your children who are on junior high, high school and college
[00:01:04] to understand a Supreme Court decision, the only time in history where sheriffs sued
[00:01:09] the federal government and won a landmark case at the Supreme Court.
[00:01:13] Yes, it has been hidden from you extensively and with malicious intent.
[00:01:22] I might add, but everybody should have this and everybody should see it and everybody
[00:01:27] should give one of these to your favorite public official county commissioners, state
[00:01:33] reps, your sheriff.
[00:01:36] Let's get these rolling folks because it is the miracle ammunition that we need to
[00:01:42] show them that the federal government is out of control and that they are not our boss.
[00:01:49] So that's a wrap.
[00:01:51] All right, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:01:55] We always want to focus on those quotes because it's the greatest tenth amendment decision
[00:02:00] ever rendered in the history of the United States and really shows that state and
[00:02:05] local officials have dual sovereignty with the general government.
[00:02:08] They are not cow-tow-two, et cetera.
[00:02:12] Because I teach that the states created the general government, how could the general
[00:02:15] government be more powerful than the states?
[00:02:17] The creation is not greater and has never been greater than the creator.
[00:02:22] That's why we look to the great creator of the universe, God Almighty, in our lives.
[00:02:29] Sheriff, we've got an incredible guest.
[00:02:30] I'm going to introduce our guest and then we're going to go straight to a story
[00:02:33] that I have and then to his topic.
[00:02:36] Our guest, Mr. Ray Silva.
[00:02:39] He's with MEJ.org.
[00:02:41] He's Major Gorya Catholic Leadership in Alabama.
[00:02:45] Terry Cullifrancisco is the leader of the organization.
[00:02:49] The spokesman today is Ray.
[00:02:51] Welcome to the broadcast, sir.
[00:02:54] Thank you, Sam.
[00:02:55] It's good to be with you.
[00:02:57] Good to be with both of you.
[00:02:58] Oh, man, there's so much to cover.
[00:03:00] I just saw an article.
[00:03:01] Go ahead, Sheriff.
[00:03:04] I was just telling Ray, good morning.
[00:03:06] Keep going, Sam.
[00:03:08] All right.
[00:03:09] Excellent.
[00:03:09] There's an article in newser today, which is quite scary
[00:03:13] But it fits so well to the topic I had to talk about it before we put you on because it is so
[00:03:20] Apropos to the reason that we have Ray on the TV and radio with us
[00:03:24] Jen Gidman over at newser is the one with this article. But here's the headline
[00:03:30] quote father Justin quote
[00:03:33] gets demoted
[00:03:36] After mighty strange claims that the AI chatbot was taking confessions and administering sacraments
[00:03:45] I'm calling this sacrilege ladies and gentlemen. This is blasphemous in my opinion
[00:03:50] We've heard about chatbots being Jesus Christ or pretending to be Jesus Christ
[00:03:55] This one is interesting. They say wouldn't it be comforting to have a priest accessible online?
[00:04:01] How about a man of the cloth that you could talk to anytime you want to who can offer you solace and advice?
[00:04:08] right from your computer screen a
[00:04:11] group called Catholic answers
[00:04:14] Saw a potential in quote father Justin
[00:04:18] What is father Justin? It's an artificial intelligence driven chatbot
[00:04:23] They say it's meant for the faithful, but after it had some strange responses and interactions
[00:04:29] Well, he's been stripped of his quote father status now. It's just Justin
[00:04:36] After he offered some unusual advice as a hardliner on sexual issues
[00:04:41] The commentary that he puts out baffles
[00:04:44] Catholics and users the big focus is on
[00:04:48] Futurism
[00:04:49] Yeah, there's oddities disseminated from this chatbot that caught the attention of so many people now
[00:04:54] It's in the news and it's been demoted despite being a quote computer generated chatbot
[00:05:00] father Justin was described by business insider as
[00:05:05] claddened in
[00:05:07] black with a priest collar and
[00:05:09] A fatherly gray beard
[00:05:12] Apparently offers the sacrament offers confession
[00:05:17] I'm as real as the faith we share the bot claimed
[00:05:21] And then they talk about this futurism which we will get into with our guest before we go on though to the topic at hand today
[00:05:28] I just want to say to me. This is blasphemous sheriff. You want to respond to this?
[00:05:33] Well, yes, and it reminds me of the scripture that
[00:05:37] Says no one takes this honor upon himself
[00:05:41] but he who is called as was Aaron and
[00:05:45] Aaron he's referring to that scriptures referring to Aaron
[00:05:48] the brother of Moses and
[00:05:51] And so you don't just get to go around and say, okay, I'm in charge now or
[00:05:57] I'm a priest now and you know, it's a calling
[00:06:02] and and that's what that scripture refers to and and
[00:06:06] So yeah, that that kind of surprises me that anybody would just
[00:06:11] Take it upon themselves
[00:06:13] contrary to the scripture
[00:06:15] Now I get it
[00:06:17] The one person asked of a baby can be baptized and the bot said in the affirmative sure no problem
[00:06:22] And the problem isn't so much that they're providing answers to Catholic questions
[00:06:27] If they clearly say this is a AI engine designed to you know bring forth
[00:06:33] True answers based on the Catholic faith. I wouldn't have a problem with it
[00:06:36] My problem is they tried to pass this off as a real ordained
[00:06:41] Father in the Catholic faith now, I'm not a Catholic
[00:06:46] But I'm incensed nevertheless because again a fake bot pretending. It's a literal
[00:06:52] You know father in the church as a person. It's fake news Ray. Let's go to you
[00:06:59] One of the leaders of a great Catholic
[00:07:01] I don't know if you call it sector or group. What do you say to this kind of stuff to me?
[00:07:06] This is blasphemy
[00:07:08] Absolutely Sam and actually it reminds me and what you're saying kind of reminds me of a story of something that happened
[00:07:16] actually before Terry started keratoss and
[00:07:20] It was something kind of similar to what you're saying here
[00:07:23] He was actually at a Catholic mass and a priest was saying things that
[00:07:28] Ordinary people can do the same things that priests can do and it was just a lot of a lot of
[00:07:34] Discounting the fact with Sheriff Mack and brought up the scripture about only certain people are called to that
[00:07:38] You don't just get that on your own
[00:07:40] but that's something that that is conferred upon you and
[00:07:44] At one point Terry just stood up in the middle of this priest sermon
[00:07:48] And he pointed his finger at the priest like standing up in front of everybody he points his finger at this priest and
[00:07:56] And the priest kind of makes a comment in the middle of us homily saying and he's up near the front of the church
[00:08:01] so everybody's who's in the church behind him could see him standing up at this priest and
[00:08:07] The priest says something like well, I see that somebody
[00:08:11] Disagrees with what I'm saying, you know with with his truth and and Terry says that you have a sick
[00:08:17] twisted truth and
[00:08:20] And he sat down and afterwards the the priest was like trying to talk to him and shake his hand like oh come on
[00:08:26] Terry everything's okay, you know and and Terry is like you're you're leading people astray
[00:08:31] You're leading people astray and even people within the church who were in the
[00:08:35] ation were coming up and saying like oh Terry
[00:08:38] You can't be so you can't be so stupid about this and Terry says you've been living this priest too long
[00:08:44] This this priest is he's got he's got you think in things in your ears
[00:08:48] Like what the scripture says but this story what you're saying about what this AI is doing is
[00:08:55] Access same thing only back then it was happening in real time. It was happening in real
[00:08:59] This is like back in the 80s. So these are things that are going on remember
[00:09:03] This bot responds in real time people think it's a real person because the AI's being so good
[00:09:10] That's right
[00:09:11] Yeah, so I mean it and the Terry talked about this recently in the radios and his radio broadcast that if there are
[00:09:19] especially with AI
[00:09:21] there's going to be these these
[00:09:23] Attempts to make it seem more and more and more divine ultimately we created it though
[00:09:29] And
[00:09:30] That's why I go back to the creation
[00:09:32] Can never be greater than the creator ladies and gentlemen my problem again
[00:09:37] Isn't getting Catholic answers if they just say hey this bot is you know
[00:09:40] Design and controlled and trained to understand the true faith of Catholicism and and we're gonna lay out answers
[00:09:46] So you can get questions and answers and hey, that's not a bad thing necessarily
[00:09:50] Nothing but a great search engine to give you true Catholic answers. That's fine
[00:09:53] But when it pretends it's a father it pretends it's
[00:09:57] representing know about the future or things that we know are coming in the future, but
[00:10:14] but again those that
[00:10:16] The the ability for this bot if you will to accurately predict things or
[00:10:23] To create some kind of a new type of future of course again going back to what we said before
[00:10:28] This is something that we created but if you if you go to medge.com
[00:10:32] What Sam had mentioned at the beginning of the broadcast Terry's got a lot of information out there that he's put to kind of explain
[00:10:39] That there are things that we do know about the future
[00:10:44] But that's coming to us supernaturally not through sob
[00:10:47] and when we talk about the future too
[00:10:51] We need to be very careful because a lot of these people really believe the future is kind of
[00:10:57] Encompassed in this global religion or all these people are going to come together through
[00:11:02] You know the world economic forum or the United Nations or some other global thing and they're gonna kind of establish a
[00:11:08] virtual religion of sorts where they kind of control the parameters of the quote answers as
[00:11:13] This bots purporting to do they're really trying to put man above God machine above human
[00:11:19] They're really trying to pervert the truth and merge these religious beliefs
[00:11:23] You and I may not agree on all the tenants of religion or the theological
[00:11:27] You know
[00:11:28] Theology on thing the ology on things but we agree that you know gods in his heavens and Jesus Christ
[00:11:34] Is the son of God and the Virgin Mary was a sacred woman who brought forth the Savior Jesus Christ
[00:11:40] You know we agree on the fundamentals. We agree on hope and faith and and repentance and and these things
[00:11:48] This if we're not very careful might start even innocent enough father-priest
[00:11:53] But over time they'll morph that bot into being the leader of the quote global religion
[00:11:58] Denying all real religious worship if we're not careful Ray
[00:12:02] That's right, and this is a term that years ago Terry started calling it creeping gradualism
[00:12:08] It's a something that something that seemingly appears to be good
[00:12:11] And it starts off very very small
[00:12:13] And it's gets gains a little bit of acceptance and a little bit more acceptance to the point where
[00:12:19] Things that would never have been accepted in the beginning eventually just become accepted and that's just that's what you're talking about
[00:12:27] Yeah, that happens a lot of places and what one thing though we've brought up
[00:12:33] Terry's leadership and
[00:12:35] That you're but I don't know if you've actually said that you live at a
[00:12:41] What compound?
[00:12:43] community
[00:12:45] Called Kara Joss outside Birmingham, Alabama
[00:12:49] And as you mentioned I've been there Sam's been there my wife has been there and
[00:12:55] I have I don't know if you remember this Ray, but I've always called you guys the Catholic Amish
[00:13:05] Because first of all
[00:13:08] You live your religion
[00:13:10] Every minute of your lives. I was so impressed with
[00:13:14] how you have
[00:13:17] You still have the cows and the chickens and and you grow a lot of your own food and you you grow hay and grass and
[00:13:25] for the cows and and feed for the chickens and I
[00:13:30] Actually watched while some of your chickens were butchered by some of the members that you have there
[00:13:36] Good hard-working people
[00:13:39] And so
[00:13:41] Why do you have why do you have this?
[00:13:45] community and
[00:13:47] What is it about and is everybody welcome to be there and to come by and
[00:13:53] You know Sam and I are not Catholic as he mentioned in fact
[00:13:58] We're Latter-day Saints. We belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
[00:14:02] You guys already know that we're not Catholics yet. You've invited us there. You've invited Jews there
[00:14:08] you've invited Baptists there and
[00:14:10] Everybody's welcome and that's why I love it because everybody's welcome and
[00:14:16] you know, we participate in your
[00:14:20] three times a day daily prayers and
[00:14:24] So maybe that all our viewers know what this is why you have it and
[00:14:31] Where can people come to to come by and see how could how could somebody who wants to just come see it?
[00:14:37] Stop by but anyway explain Karetos to everybody
[00:14:41] Sure that sir certainly yesterday
[00:14:44] It was we've been looking forward to seeing you guys again, too
[00:14:47] Actually, we were just talking about this yesterday with Sam
[00:14:49] So we're hoping to do something soon Terry's looking at some plans that he's formulating here
[00:14:54] But you know Terry started Karetos the organization was its purpose was to spread the faith and
[00:15:02] The real reason behind that is actually the what was Karetos?
[00:15:07] Karetos is a Latin word that means charity or love and
[00:15:11] Its purpose really was something that was to spread the faith what Terry saw was that was that there was a lot
[00:15:18] There was a lack of faith that it was not being taught
[00:15:21] And he said I'm gonna start an organization
[00:15:24] To help just teach the faith and just educate people and that's really that's really how it began back in the 80s
[00:15:31] It was actually in the early 80s
[00:15:34] And its purpose was really that one thing alone and it actually what I
[00:15:38] Spoken the same about Terry's new writing and his new movement that he's doing the peasants in the pew
[00:15:44] This was actually started way back when it was a revolution
[00:15:48] Because what Terry was seeing that there were elements in the church
[00:15:52] That were not not only not teaching the faith but that were teaching the wrong things that there were things where
[00:15:58] There was a lot of predetermined outcomes
[00:16:00] Where you know people were he was he saw things where he could say like people were
[00:16:06] Looked like people were being treated fairly
[00:16:08] But really, you know, there was agendas behind them to kind of lead people where they were you know
[00:16:13] Where where these agendas were were heading towards?
[00:16:17] And so
[00:16:18] Karetos was started for that for that purpose as just an organization
[00:16:23] And in the beginning his his first Catholic bishop told him well, you can't do that
[00:16:28] And Terry's like what do you mean? I can't do that if anybody can spread the faith
[00:16:32] I mean anybody can do that, you know
[00:16:34] And he was against he was against Terry doing this because he was stepping out of the confines of the structure
[00:16:40] and he was doing something to try to bring people to God
[00:16:45] And he he thought that the church would be excited about it
[00:16:48] But what he saw is that the church was not excited about this
[00:16:52] So he said I know what I'm supposed to do and I'm going to do this anyway
[00:16:56] And just through the years he became involved in the Medjugorje
[00:16:59] Or a phenomenon which is these apparitions of the virgin Mary
[00:17:04] Where the virgin Mary said got centered to the world
[00:17:07] Because there was a crisis of faith
[00:17:10] And that the faith a lot of the crisis of faith came because there were many Christians living like pagans
[00:17:15] And that that was the reason why there was so much darkness in the world
[00:17:18] Was not because there was so much darkness was because the light was not strong
[00:17:23] And so her call was for believers to become stronger believers
[00:17:28] To live like actually like Christians and not like pagans
[00:17:31] And Terry saw this and he said this is what I'm supposed to be a part of I realized this is what I had started
[00:17:37] Caritas forward
[00:17:38] He completely changed the focus of the organization for that
[00:17:42] And through his involvement in that phenomenon one of the visionaries Maria, which you have met Sheriff Mack
[00:17:48] You've met her. Um, I think it was 2013. I believe
[00:17:52] Um, she came she came here to his home
[00:17:55] And the virgin Mary appeared and Terry's home every single day for two and a half months
[00:18:00] And she was giving messages
[00:18:02] And these messages were something that were out of the ordinary of even what she was saying in Medjugorje
[00:18:08] And in one of the apparitions
[00:18:11] After the apparition Maria turned to Terry and said
[00:18:15] Our lady wants a community started here the virgin Mary wants you to start a community here
[00:18:21] And he said like what do you mean like a community?
[00:18:24] And he had in his mind like an idea or a concept that he thought
[00:18:28] You know something, you know that he could sense even when he first moved out here that was supposed to be here
[00:18:33] But he didn't quite know it and he gets this supernatural confirmation
[00:18:37] So the call to start community was not it wasn't something that was just like his idea
[00:18:42] I'm going to just figure this out and make this community. It was something where it was a call given to him
[00:18:47] Saying you start this
[00:18:49] I've shown you things about the messages and you know, he was given certain understanding of these messages and the scripture
[00:18:56] And of our faith
[00:18:58] And so it was he would need to form something where people came together and lived it together
[00:19:03] And that's that's how it actually had its origins. And so people
[00:19:10] Just a little addition now you have families there. There's married people there. There's children
[00:19:16] Of all ages and you have your own school there, right?
[00:19:20] That's right. Yeah, what what terry saw is that it didn't make sense
[00:19:24] To create a new society just like the early christians the holy spirit came
[00:19:29] They they came and they formed community and those communities
[00:19:32] They split and they created new communities and then those communities grew and then they would split and make other communities
[00:19:38] And and that's how christianity grew which actually
[00:19:42] Became the foundation of america actually came from this creation of christian communities
[00:19:48] and so
[00:19:51] Go ahead and and do you remember?
[00:19:54] Do you remember what I thought the name of the place actually meant
[00:19:58] Keratoss, right? Do you remember what I said?
[00:20:01] Was it little faces is that what it was? Yeah. Yes
[00:20:05] yes, yes, right
[00:20:07] Because I speak spanish and keratoss in spanish would be karitas
[00:20:12] Which means little faces. So I came to you guys. I think it was to you as a why do you call this place little faces?
[00:20:20] and then
[00:20:21] Everybody explained to me that keratoss
[00:20:24] Is love or charity in latin so
[00:20:28] So i've learned a lot there and I and I mean that sincerely
[00:20:32] I have never met
[00:20:35] Such a powerful christian group of people in my life
[00:20:38] And I love all of you
[00:20:41] uh, you can feel the love
[00:20:43] and christian
[00:20:45] uh atmosphere when you're around
[00:20:47] The children the adults
[00:20:50] everybody
[00:20:51] Uh, it is a beautiful community
[00:20:54] And my hat is off to all of you
[00:20:57] My love and devotion to all of you has remained the same for the
[00:21:04] Decade and a half that I've been acquainted with you
[00:21:08] And everyone I
[00:21:10] Uh, I recommend all of you go see this place for yourself
[00:21:14] And it will it will make you believe
[00:21:18] in humankind
[00:21:20] And christianity
[00:21:22] anew so uh
[00:21:24] My my faith in you
[00:21:27] And what you do and what you believe that you practice what you believe
[00:21:31] And that you made this beautiful community. How many people do you have there now?
[00:21:36] About 30 is about 30 of us
[00:21:39] That's it. There's only 30 of you. Yes, my there's about a lot of kids and you know
[00:21:45] And back to what you were your earlier question about the school
[00:21:48] You know
[00:21:49] That was what terry was saying was that his his understanding was it didn't make sense to create something where you separated from society and made your own society
[00:21:58] Based in the gospel based in these messages
[00:22:01] And then send your kids off to a government school
[00:22:05] Or even a private school
[00:22:06] Where you will be there will be with other kids who have parents who may not have seen the same shared values
[00:22:12] And that was one thing we saw at the conference that that you and sam were at
[00:22:16] Is that you had all these people of even different faiths that were there and yet there was a common belief shared values
[00:22:24] Amen, and so there's a there's a big kind of battle between sheriff the world
[00:22:30] The world economic forum the united nations whatever
[00:22:35] You know the world bank that you know, they're trying to create a world government and they want basically merge our religions into one kind of master religion
[00:22:41] And their master religion would take away, you know the 10 commandments that god set forth
[00:22:46] It would replace it with kind of the world economic forums 10 commandments of religion
[00:22:51] Some of the religious tenants would be that you couldn't you know have negative views towards transgender
[00:22:56] Or towards people choosing their own sexual
[00:22:59] Agenda even at you know child age kind of stuff
[00:23:03] It destroys religion on its face
[00:23:06] And so what rey is talking about in my mind is saying we can work together
[00:23:12] Hold on to our own religious tenants and beliefs stick with the true gospel
[00:23:16] Based on you know the viewpoints of the catholics or the members of the church
[00:23:21] Saturday Saints oraptists or whoever we can hold onto the tenants of our own religion and our own theology
[00:23:26] But come together on principles. We agree on faith and hope and repentance and kindness and
[00:23:31] Following the prince of peace and respect for the virgin mary and these kind of uh sacred principles
[00:23:37] we can come together on that but the plan that that
[00:23:41] Terry and rey and you know me and you and others have we want to hold on to our beliefs and just respect one another
[00:23:47] But work together for the common good of society or as a whole
[00:23:51] These people want to change the whole guidelines and rules to where all the theological differences are erased
[00:23:58] And man-made guidelines rather than god ordained
[00:24:02] Commandments
[00:24:04] Are the order of the day and that's the big problem that we face and so
[00:24:09] terry uh who rey is the spokesman for
[00:24:13] in their catholic
[00:24:15] What do you call it a diocese?
[00:24:17] compound a place to live
[00:24:18] in their community
[00:24:20] He put forth this terry put forth an edict
[00:24:23] A proclamation if you will
[00:24:25] And they're calling it the peasants
[00:24:28] In the pews kind of a mock joke statement kind of acting like look you guys aren't kings and gods and world leaders and control everything
[00:24:35] The peasants and the pews are god's children
[00:24:39] And so we need to start to confront or challenge
[00:24:43] Their spiritual leaders to protect the flock from these assaults right?
[00:24:47] That's right. And and again going back to you know
[00:24:52] uh terry started keredos because it was it was a revolution
[00:24:56] Because the leadership was not teaching and so this really goes back, you know 30 40 years
[00:25:02] Of of him seeing what's taking place and where the power really lies and he's talked about this for a long time
[00:25:10] Is that the within the catholic hierarchy? There are the local bishops
[00:25:14] There is a bishop that covers every square mile
[00:25:17] Of the world there's not a single part of the earth's surface that does not have some catholic bishop assigned to them
[00:25:24] And so this is what terry's saying. There's a lot of power there
[00:25:26] There's a lot of authority there
[00:25:28] But a lot of times he's seen that this authority is used to promote things that are meaningless
[00:25:35] A lot of social justice causes a lot of things that really at the end do not stand up for truth
[00:25:41] They don't protect the flock the some of the assaults that sheriff mac was speaking about at the beginning of the broadcast
[00:25:47] A bishop could put a stop to those things
[00:25:49] Assaults against the personal liberty
[00:25:52] Uh our ability to practice our faith and all of these things a bishop could stand up publicly
[00:25:58] And literally put a stop to it because number one he has spiritual authority. That's what that's the whole perspective that came from
[00:26:05] He's got a spiritual authority. He has a jurisdiction
[00:26:08] And even if you're not catholic he he considers you or bishop is supposed to consider you
[00:26:14] His child that he is he is still a shepherd and you're still part of his flock that he's supposed to still protect your faith
[00:26:21] So what he was seeing is that this is not only not happening
[00:26:25] But there there's a silence from the bishops and not only a silence sometimes there's what he refers to as a nuanced
[00:26:32] language
[00:26:33] Things are said especially in election years, you know, there's things which are not outright said but they're kind of nuanced and saying and
[00:26:40] And at the end of the day a catholic or any believer could walk away saying well
[00:26:45] I could vote for anybody according to what that guy is saying
[00:26:48] You know so but there are truths and that's what he's trying to
[00:26:52] To encourage people to do is like we are the peasants in the pew
[00:26:56] They are above us
[00:26:58] and
[00:26:59] To kind of put it in perspective a little bit
[00:27:02] Terry did a radio show about a year or so ago
[00:27:05] And he spoke about the church the church is this is the bride of christ
[00:27:10] And scripturally we know that the church is the bride of christ, but it's become the bride
[00:27:15] That loves herself and not the groom
[00:27:18] And and so that's what's happening
[00:27:20] And so we're seeing that a lot and and people who are peasants the common believers were like nothing
[00:27:27] It's it's almost like we're nothing to them
[00:27:29] And but the again the reason why he's pushing this forward through this edict about confronting them is
[00:27:36] They've been very much to public opinion
[00:27:39] unfortunately, and they are bending to
[00:27:42] The wrong public opinion a bishop stands up
[00:27:45] But you you probably saw this in the news a week or so ago a bishop
[00:27:48] In a in a private gathering referred to biden the stupid he called them stupid
[00:27:52] Well, there was absolutely nothing wrong with what this bishop said he was saying he's he's stupid
[00:27:57] He doesn't know the faith. He's this you know, whatever and you know, everybody's like oh, wow
[00:28:01] This bishop saying something and three days later guess what he does
[00:28:04] He apologizes he apologizes
[00:28:07] And so
[00:28:09] He got swarmed and this is the this is what you know, terry refers to a swarming they'll swarm them
[00:28:13] And you know, he'll get bombarded by all of these things and you need to apologize
[00:28:17] So what he's saying I actually saw that article and I totally agreed with the courage of that that bishop used to
[00:28:24] call
[00:28:26] Biden to repentance
[00:28:29] And then basically you just the first
[00:28:32] The assertion is that the spiritual leaders in the united states especially but around the world also
[00:28:39] Especially in the catholic church. That's what terry and reyer saying
[00:28:43] I would say in all kinds of churches everywhere
[00:28:47] Are weak in defense of liberty
[00:28:50] They're weak against biden and his assaults. They're weak against the transgender lies
[00:28:56] The assaults of homosexuality transgenderism we go on and on and where these bishops and these leaders
[00:29:03] Or other you know leaders in different faiths
[00:29:05] They all count out of these agendas that are hostile
[00:29:10] To god's law
[00:29:11] Male and female cradity them says god the science backs it up with a x x and an x y chromosomes
[00:29:19] There's nothing in any reality
[00:29:22] That refutes male and female gender
[00:29:25] Binary if you will
[00:29:26] But yet they move along with this and church leaders are going along rey
[00:29:31] This is what we the people the peasants and the pews need to rise up and say no no no no no
[00:29:37] How dare you cross the lines of sacred?
[00:29:41] Rit from god almighty. We don't have the choice to redefine
[00:29:46] They they even they even have said that it's
[00:29:50] Man if they really believe themselves to be a woman that they could actually get pregnant
[00:29:57] Yeah
[00:29:59] And and they've put there made things in place to mimic a real pregnancy to mimic god's way
[00:30:05] And this is it's blasphemy and we need to be the peasants and the pews standing up
[00:30:09] They treat us like peasants, but really we are the children of god right rey
[00:30:13] That's right and
[00:30:15] And if you remember the terry's book they fired the first shot
[00:30:19] And which a lot of your listeners have probably have probably read he's got a whole section there about actually
[00:30:24] I had a copy sitting right here. Just so your people just so your listeners can or your viewers could see it
[00:30:30] I have trouble with this camera. Sorry. I'm going to move it real quick here
[00:30:35] There it goes. Yeah, right there. There you go
[00:30:38] The first shot in 2012
[00:30:41] And so in that terry talked about the the shepherds
[00:30:45] There was two sets of shepherds he referred to one of them was the spiritual shepherds, which were the bishops
[00:30:50] The second was the secular shepherds, which were the sheriffs and there's a whole section in there about the sheriffs
[00:30:57] But there's a section in there that said that the churches played a critical role in the american revolution
[00:31:04] And of course, we know this that that in the beginning the path it was the pastors
[00:31:09] Who are the ones that were largely responsible a lot of the things that happened in the revolution?
[00:31:13] You go read the declaration of independence actually terry put the whole declaration in they fired the first shot
[00:31:19] So you can read it and he's looking at it saying read these offenses here against the king
[00:31:25] And compare him against the offenses today
[00:31:28] And so back then you had pastors at that time who were saying these offenses are great enough for there to be a revolution
[00:31:36] But if you think about what's happening today, that was the premise of part of the book was to say if you look at what's happening right now today
[00:31:44] The answers are far greater against god's law
[00:31:48] Against god's people against his
[00:31:50] spiritual leaders
[00:31:52] There should be the ones leading the revolution now and their accomplices actually
[00:32:00] Well, I've I've read that book and it has a sequel that mentions
[00:32:06] sheriffs and
[00:32:08] uh, and me
[00:32:09] Uh, and it's it's a great book
[00:32:12] Uh, but that book right that you just mentioned they fired the first shot
[00:32:17] really
[00:32:18] exposes
[00:32:20] The political and spiritual corruption
[00:32:23] Uh that permeates our society today. Does it not?
[00:32:27] That's right and you can't you won't be able to have and that was the purpose of part of the book was to explain that you won't be able to have
[00:32:34] a revolution a bloodless revolution
[00:32:38] Without having a spiritual revolution
[00:32:41] And if there is bloodshed it will come as a result of our sin
[00:32:44] It will come as a result of the fact that we haven't changed that would be a punishment to us
[00:32:49] But it can happen without bloodshed and that would only happen if spiritual leaders stand up
[00:32:56] And if the secular leaders the sheriffs if there were also willing to stand up
[00:33:03] Wow, well, what a great book
[00:33:07] It's a great book. They fired the first shot and it really kind of talks about
[00:33:13] You know there
[00:33:14] They are on the assault destroying everything we believe in all the hope that we have their goal is to divide us from our godly heritage
[00:33:22] That's really what's happening. That's why peasants of the pews need to stand up and say no
[00:33:26] We turn to god you represent god
[00:33:29] spiritual leader only when you teach the truth about
[00:33:33] You know his commandments and his
[00:33:35] dealings with with man on the earth
[00:33:38] Uh, and when you teach principles that are correct based on the gospel of christ released
[00:33:43] Um by the holy writ right
[00:33:45] And they're perverting that as the problem and it's making its way into the church so much so to where they've got literally fake ai priests
[00:33:52] They've got priests teaching false doctrine. They've got
[00:33:56] You know famous people in given churches that are destroying the true works of god. I just watched american idol last night
[00:34:04] Uh, david archeleta is on there and he's walked away from his church now
[00:34:08] sheriff mac
[00:34:09] Oh, yeah, I know that and uh, yeah, it's well it's happening and some of our church leaders have walked away from our church
[00:34:16] But uh ray real quickly. What's the name of the sequel that really deals a lot with the sheriff?
[00:34:23] It's called the david answer the david answer the david answer. Yeah, and and it was very similar to mine
[00:34:30] That's right comes comes from my book. Are you a david?
[00:34:33] Yeah, so those books everybody should read
[00:34:37] Uh, the book uh, say what what did you call it?
[00:34:42] The david
[00:34:44] David answer
[00:34:47] Yeah, and my book is are you a david and and I asked the same question
[00:34:52] uh to everyone
[00:34:54] citizens, are you a david?
[00:34:57] politicians leaders
[00:34:59] Are you a david?
[00:35:02] Are you ready to answer the call? Are you humble enough in your position as a human?
[00:35:10] And as a sheriff or county commissioner or whatever
[00:35:15] Are you humble enough and strong enough to answer the call?
[00:35:21] And if we have if there were ever a time that we need that it's now
[00:35:28] That's right
[00:35:29] And one of the things that that terry saw was you know, the virgin mary was giving these messages
[00:35:35] And there was a specific day that she was asking people to pray for non-believers
[00:35:40] That's people who don't know the love of god
[00:35:42] And she would give a message on that day and she would always end it with saying something about praying pray for your shepherds
[00:35:48] That they don't lose their way or pray for your shepherds that they love their flock and
[00:35:52] And everybody other people in the movement would look at these things and say oh, that's so wonderful
[00:35:57] She's saying to pray for the shepherds and terry would look at that and say that's not positive
[00:36:02] That's not positive what she's saying here. She's saying something negative in a positive way
[00:36:06] Think about it. This is the day for non-believers
[00:36:09] She's telling us to pray for shepherds on the day that we're supposed to pray for non-believers
[00:36:13] Do you understand what's going on? She's saying that they're non-believers. You get it. This is what's going on
[00:36:18] And and he has been the lone person that has pointed this out
[00:36:23] That, uh, you know
[00:36:24] That they have to be held accountable
[00:36:27] For their position for their authority. They have an authority. It's given to them by god
[00:36:31] They're accountable to that authority
[00:36:33] And so with his with this movement of peasant the pew
[00:36:36] He's telling people if you see a bishop at any event
[00:36:39] confront him
[00:36:40] If you write a letter to him write a letter to every one of them if you're not catholic
[00:36:44] Write a letter to him's happened, you know in such a such a place and say a word
[00:36:50] Yeah, you know, uh, you know, it could be anywhere in the country
[00:36:54] But just imagine if what would happen if people rose up and confronted them
[00:36:59] To make them do their duty
[00:37:02] And that's really what he's really trying to get people to do is make the pastors make the shepherds protect the flock
[00:37:11] Makes sense. Well, that's just powerful stuff. Thank you so much
[00:37:16] Sam, all right, let's talk a little bit about a couple of other things here
[00:37:19] Because they relate to the peasants in the pews message
[00:37:22] First off, have you read the book the david?
[00:37:25] Answer by a friend of medjugorje
[00:37:27] Help people understand a little bit about medjugorje is and then I want to talk about medjugorje and the vatican
[00:37:34] The vatican is important as well. Um, tell me about that. What what's medjugorje?
[00:37:40] So medjugorje is a place in the former Yugoslavia
[00:37:44] Which is a small village of maybe 400 families
[00:37:47] And in 1981 the virgin mary started to appear there
[00:37:51] And a lot of times in the past you've heard of guadalupe and fadama and a lot of these other places where the virgin mary has appeared
[00:37:59] It's always been to awaken the faith in those areas
[00:38:02] But medjugorje was something that was different
[00:38:05] It was something where the virgin mary was coming to awaken the faith across the whole world
[00:38:10] and so what uh
[00:38:12] What terry saw when he got involved in the phenomenon is he started to see things in the messages
[00:38:17] There were signs and there were miracles and there were
[00:38:20] conversions of people who were non-believers and people would go there and their hearts would change and they would change their lives
[00:38:27] And and everybody was focusing on all of these things
[00:38:30] But when terry went there he started to realize there he saw that was she saying things
[00:38:35] There's messages that are being given and nobody's talking about these messages
[00:38:40] And this is like in the early 80s
[00:38:43] And he was being told well the messages are not so important
[00:38:46] She's here to repeat the gospel to us
[00:38:49] But he would look at these messages and say no these are saying things for our time
[00:38:54] That in our time we could understand what god's doing right now in the world
[00:38:59] And he was ignored people told him he was crazy people told him he was putting too much
[00:39:04] emphasis on the on the messages themselves
[00:39:06] But he kept coming back to it saying no the messages are saying something to us the virgin mary said god's telling her
[00:39:14] To give us these messages
[00:39:16] So we should be paying attention to what she's saying and he saw things in the messages that were unique and different
[00:39:23] One of the things that he saw is that the virgin mary said that these apparitions
[00:39:28] She would give messages during these apparitions like never in history from the beginning of the world
[00:39:34] And he saw that and said well if you have a heavenly being appearing sent by god to say
[00:39:39] I'm going to give you i'm going to give you messages like never before since the beginning of the world
[00:39:44] Then he was like that's a that's a big deal
[00:39:48] But other people weren't seeing that as a big deal. He was the lone voice seeing this
[00:39:52] And because of that there were insights that he would see in these messages
[00:39:56] That allowed him to write things like what's in they fired the first shot
[00:40:00] Some of the other books like the david answer
[00:40:03] These are actually
[00:40:04] Books that are based in the messages and he saw things in the messages that the virgin mary is speaking to us for our time
[00:40:12] That's what he was seeing
[00:40:14] So it was it was unique and it was different. It was something that something that was very different
[00:40:19] And one of the things that he saw at the medjugorje phenomenon is that
[00:40:24] The virgin mary said that these were going to be the last apparitions on earth that once she stops appearing
[00:40:29] During this period of time. She won't come again
[00:40:32] And so he understood that that for the time that we live in now we live in an age and in a time
[00:40:39] That that these are messages that everyone should be paying attention to
[00:40:43] That they're actually going that they actually speak to us about the time that we live in
[00:40:48] and
[00:40:49] people at when he was involved in the beginning with medjugorje everybody wanted to confine it to just a religious event
[00:40:56] And even still today we see that across the board. It's they confine it to just a religious event
[00:41:02] And you know terry's view of this has always been different that god's not going to speak to us
[00:41:08] Just to make us pray more to be more spiritual
[00:41:11] It's going to do something that's going to change the world and you change the world by physically changing how you live
[00:41:17] By physically affecting politics in the courts and everything else nothing will change unless these things change
[00:41:25] So that's where he was saying that this phenomenon is different
[00:41:29] than any phenomenons that have happened really in the history of the world and it's speaking to us for our time
[00:41:37] And so um, well again
[00:41:39] Go ahead. Speaking of some of that
[00:41:42] Some of what you have said has reminded me that
[00:41:45] uh
[00:41:46] The current pope of the catholic church seems to be quite liberal and has said some things that don't really mesh with
[00:41:53] with doctrine and theology of the catholic church
[00:41:58] Specifically his support for uh transgender
[00:42:04] Issues and and there's been quite a few different issues
[00:42:08] That he's brought up and a lot of it comes straight from the vatican
[00:42:12] As well so include the vatican
[00:42:14] What is your stance? What is keratop stance on all of that?
[00:42:17] So, you know our our stance has always been
[00:42:23] A term that terry uses a lot
[00:42:25] Uh, you know, he says i'm born catholic. I'll live catholic and I'll die catholic
[00:42:29] Nothing will ever take me away from the church. Nothing will ever take me away from the faith
[00:42:34] And that's the position that he always holds a lot of these things there has there has been infection
[00:42:39] Um, it's part of the reason why medjugorje has not really officially been approved by the church
[00:42:44] There have been people in the medjugorje movement that have been trying to get medjugorje approved by the church
[00:42:50] And terry was always fighting against that saying no the church is sick
[00:42:53] We don't want the church touching medjugorje
[00:42:55] We want medjugorje to stay to stay out of the church right now
[00:42:59] That it's it's sick. It's going to infect it. It's infecting everything. It's touching. It's contagious
[00:43:05] So we don't need that element affecting medjugorje
[00:43:08] and so uh
[00:43:10] A lot of these
[00:43:11] A lot of these prelates a lot of these bishops even the pope himself they speak a lot from their from their personal opinion
[00:43:17] And also too there are also times and and terry's spoken to people in rome
[00:43:22] Right there in the vatican a lot of times things are presented to us here in the u.s. That that are not exactly 100
[00:43:30] Uh, the truth or what's being told
[00:43:33] And you know, there's a we think that we communicate so well across the oceans now
[00:43:38] And we think that we have such a connection across the world, but there still is a media power
[00:43:44] That that reinterprets a lot of times what the pope really said
[00:43:49] So, you know, there there was also there's also elements of that too
[00:43:55] Well, most important piece that makes it take away from this discussion though in my mind share of mac
[00:44:00] Is if you want to learn more to go to me j.com. I said ordered before I was wrong. It's me j.com
[00:44:07] We're talking to ray silva. He's the spokesman for me j.com
[00:44:11] And we're talking about the peasants in the pew and this is starting with some catholic leaders that are simply saying
[00:44:16] Hey, you know what we're being lied to about god's true teachings
[00:44:20] You know what some of these leaders and these priests and especially these fake a i-bots are leading people astray when it comes to the real gospel
[00:44:27] And they're destroying the morality of the church
[00:44:30] And i'm taking this message and saying I agree with these
[00:44:34] catholic sects this group to where I want the peasants in the pews to be all churches
[00:44:38] Everybody's saying we've got to turn our leaders back to god back to the true gospel of christ delivered
[00:44:45] In whatever theological viewpoint you hold
[00:44:48] I don't mind theological differences, but when they clearly pervert gods a lot of say
[00:44:52] Male and female that god set forth does not exist or you know, some of the dishonest lies about
[00:44:58] Racism or you know, whatever that somehow if you're white you're racist and if you're not white you're you're a victim of that racism
[00:45:05] Or whatever different lies they tell we have got
[00:45:09] To insist that our leaders don't fall out of the way
[00:45:13] And so we want to take this message more broad than just um me j.com
[00:45:18] We want to take this peasants in the pews message
[00:45:21] worldwide or at least nationwide to say the least and stand for the principles that made america and made
[00:45:27] Uh, the the peasants in the pews godly
[00:45:30] And we used to have that with the black robed regiment back in the day array. Isn't that kind of the uh idea here to return to that?
[00:45:38] That's right in in you know, you had the great pastors at that time
[00:45:42] You had mayhew and edwards and all of those
[00:45:45] Incredible pastors during the time of the revolution and the pastors really held an incredible amount of authority
[00:45:52] And what what the reluctance in the beginning of the revolution?
[00:45:56] Really a lot of that reluctance and the people went away when the pastors came on board
[00:46:00] And if we want to see things change and that was the that's a premise of a lot of what terry's trying to do right now
[00:46:06] Is if you really want to see things change
[00:46:08] The spiritual leaders have got to get on board and they've got to start leading this direction
[00:46:13] And many many times, you know terry said bishops if you would tell people to get out into the streets
[00:46:19] They would do it they would do it they would follow because they're looking for a spiritual leader
[00:46:24] But that's what's not happening right now. So again, yes
[00:46:27] What you're talking about the black robed regiment was that reference to the pastors in the american revolution?
[00:46:34] And as to reference to what we need to do today and we the people on the pews need to insist
[00:46:38] We need to bring up to our leaders
[00:46:39] We don't need to be abusive, but we do need to be clear
[00:46:42] Look god teaches that there's male and female
[00:46:45] Science backs that up with you know genes and you know, this isn't debatable. How are we falling for this lie?
[00:46:52] Now, I agree. We can be kind to those people who are confused about this
[00:46:55] We need to be gentle and loving and provide leadership and guidance and clarity
[00:46:59] But we don't need to capitulate to that view
[00:47:03] Uh, in fact, that's a disaster. That's an abomination before god
[00:47:08] And so we need to follow this kind of black row regiment idea and have our pastors and our leaders and
[00:47:13] bishops and you know, whatever
[00:47:15] Stand up and be bold and clear about the views of christ
[00:47:18] If they want people to return to their churches and sit in the pews
[00:47:21] They're gonna have to tow the line or else people are just going to continue to follow away
[00:47:25] Which has been a big I mean there's been a big
[00:47:28] Apostasy to a great degree in the churches in the last several years also ray
[00:47:33] That's right. And if you go to medge.com, you'll see terry's writing there the edict. It's called an edict
[00:47:39] And read through that it'll give you a lot of understanding a lot of philosophy
[00:47:43] A lot of a way of approaching this at the very end of that is every single bishop in the united states
[00:47:48] The contact information the address of every single bishop throughout the whole united states
[00:47:54] Write a letter to them if sometimes people live in a certain part of the country and they don't know
[00:48:00] Maybe who their who their bishop is but even for non-catholics
[00:48:03] You know look that up find your location and you write a letter to them and say you're I'm not a part of your church
[00:48:09] But I see that you have spiritual authority and you and you could be doing this
[00:48:14] But you're not doing this and we would support you if you did this
[00:48:17] So again, if you go to medge.com mej.com
[00:48:20] Look for an edict and read through that entire
[00:48:24] The entire piece that explains the peasants in the pew and you'll see the contact information on me
[00:48:29] And I'm basically broadening this message to be all of us everywhere whatever church you belong to or even if you don't belong to a church
[00:48:37] We need a clarion call
[00:48:39] for church leaders
[00:48:41] Religious people men of the cloth whatever you want to call it to return to the principles the godly principles that were once
[00:48:48] common place
[00:48:50] in america sheriff
[00:48:53] Yeah, that's uh, I thought you were going to say a call for civility. We definitely need uh to return to that
[00:48:59] There's far too much
[00:49:01] violence going on and and the pretense
[00:49:05] That somehow violence is going to
[00:49:08] solve any of this
[00:49:10] it's not
[00:49:11] and so
[00:49:13] keratoss
[00:49:15] cspoa
[00:49:17] All support a peaceful revolution in america a peaceful restoration of liberty an individual god-given rights and civil rights
[00:49:26] Let's let's emulate
[00:49:28] What martin luther king said that this is not a violent
[00:49:33] Movement, but that we should stand firm in our defiance
[00:49:38] of evil laws and evil politicians
[00:49:41] And stand for the truth
[00:49:44] And stand together. I I have no problem standing with anyone
[00:49:50] From keratoss and the work that they've been doing at
[00:49:54] Magigoria and me j.com. Thank you so much. We appreciate you
[00:50:01] We're planning an event ladies and gentlemen with me j the details of which you'll hear about soon
[00:50:06] It's the early early early stages, but we really need to get this message out
[00:50:11] There are two books you can learn about
[00:50:15] They fired the first shot 2012
[00:50:18] The david answer both available at me j.com for ray silva
[00:50:24] And me j.com
[00:50:26] and cspoa
[00:50:28] cspoa.org god save the republic, but we must do our part
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[00:52:43] All right back with you live ladies and gentlemen
[00:52:45] Not much time left, but man. What a great interview with ray silva
[00:52:50] He's the spokesman for tele or terry color frasetsco
[00:52:54] Uh, and we're talking about peasants in the pew an initiative by this catholic
[00:52:58] Organization me j.com to learn more about it and they're basically saying look we got a return
[00:53:04] We got a return to god's law. We can't have these pastors and preachers and leaders and bishops and whatever, you know caving
[00:53:12] to man
[00:53:14] Ordained ideas we need to stick with god's law
[00:53:17] Uh, and we talked about father justin this quote ai bot that literally thinks it can forgive sins and
[00:53:23] um
[00:53:25] You know taking confessions offering sacrament and well they had to demote this father to where now it's just
[00:53:30] It's not father. Just that it's just justin
[00:53:32] This is the kind of perversions that we're seeing not only from ai bots, but from leaders and
[00:53:38] They're all caving and so uh
[00:53:40] terry over at me j.com is issuing an initiative
[00:53:44] He's called it an edict a proclamation called the peasants in the pew
[00:53:48] And it's so called peasants in the pew because we know we're god's children
[00:53:51] But they're treating us like peasants in the pew
[00:53:53] We don't matter they can say or do anything they want for fame and fortune money whatever and it doesn't matter
[00:53:58] It does matter
[00:53:59] We need to call the spiritual leaders in the united states to account
[00:54:04] They're weak in defensive liberty. They're weak in
[00:54:06] Standing against these perversions
[00:54:10] Uh, we got to stand up. So there's two books. They fired the first shot. That's one of them 2012
[00:54:14] Also, the david answer two incredible books over at emmy j.com. Check it out ladies and gentlemen
[00:54:21] A friend of medjugorje. Anyway, they're great friends of ours too great people doing their best to stand with god almighty as we are as well
[00:54:28] Now don't let them unite the religions of the world under government control. That's a disaster
[00:54:34] However, we can stand together as followers of christ, right?
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