Radio Show Hour 1 – 04/14/2025

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[00:01:07] It's tragic, to say the least. Hope you had a delightful God family country-filled weekend. Dr. Scott Bradley's with me, freedomsrisingsun.com. Welcome back, sir. Thank you very much, and good morning to all. All right. There's a big article written by Todd Stearns, toddstearns.com. Can we bring Jesus up from the basement is the headline.

[00:01:29] Just so everybody knows, in 2023, the Biden administration ordered a massive painting of Jesus Christ to be removed from the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy in New York. The painting, I guess, featured Jesus with his arms outstretched over a lifeboat filled with sailors who were lost at sea. It was originally installed back in 1947.

[00:01:58] But 75 years later, ladies and gentlemen, the military, quote, Religious Freedom Foundation, a notorious gang of anti-Christian bigots, demanded the painting be removed. Why? Because it allegedly offended non-Christians.

[00:02:17] The outrageousness of the Jesus painting display has only been further exacerbated by the fact that this room is often used for, I guess, these trials or tribunals or whatever, where these, you know, soldiers can lose their careers and be dishonorably discharged. And so the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, well, they were kind of caught in a bind on this thing.

[00:02:45] So they posted a statement of the issues and then how they were resolving those issues. The complaint suggested that the painting sends a, quote, improper message of violating the Establishment Clause about no religion. The Academy evaluated this complaint. And they say, in balancing our responsibility to foster a community of mutual respect and adhere to the law,

[00:03:15] we have decided to discontinue the use of this room for official business. The room will remain available to members of our community who wish to view this painting. Finally, we will engage a group to mend and clean and restore the painting and eventually displayed at the Academy's chapel. Restoration News reported that the painting was eventually stuffed into a dark, damp, moldy basement.

[00:03:45] But that may change very quickly, they say, thanks to Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. He valued to restore the painting to its proper place. Duffy, a devout Catholic, made that promise during a speech at King's Point. Can we, quote, bring Jesus up from the basement, he said? Let's let him rise. Yeah. Roars of approval. Would it not be fitting if Jesus was restored and raised from the basement on Easter Sunday?

[00:04:14] Anyway, it's a big, long article. But the reason that I bring it up, Dr. Bradley, is what do you think? Is it a battle that matters? Yeah, there's so many flaws in the arguments that have been made against this thing. You know, this idea of the Establishment Clause and banning of religion and all this Bravo Sierra.

[00:04:34] That the godless philosophies of men have kind of taken over our whole psyche as a nation nowadays. And we as a people have so long since forgotten the founding principles. In fact, the whole foundation of this nation was based upon religious liberty. I mean, you know, people came for all sorts of reasons to this nation.

[00:04:59] But the principal founding toehold that, if you will, that the people got here was based upon religiosity, the ability to worship and to pick a path of faith and so on. You know, you get the pilgrims in in 1620, just a handful of people, literally. One of my ancestors died about four months after they landed. But he left a posterity that we came through.

[00:05:25] At any rate, then, but, you know, from that little handful, in 1630, they started with the Puritan immigration, which gave a huge influx of religious liberty seekers that came to the nation. And basically, every principle overarching undergirding this nation from the very beginning has had a religious tenet.

[00:05:54] The idea of being able to worship, that's why people left, abandoned all of the bigotry of Europe. And, yeah, they came for a lot of other reasons, too. I'll give people that. But the fact of the matter is they had days of fasting and prayer from local communities to states to the entire, you know,

[00:06:21] whole eastern seaboard when people were looking at the challenges that faced them. Fasting and prayer because of the efforts to bring about the cause of liberty in the Revolutionary War. Washington was actually, I mean, it wasn't demanded.

[00:06:40] He was instructed to set out a day of fasting and prayers as soon as the Bill of Rights were sent out to be basically ratified by the states. Every step of the way, this has been the American way. And for people to say a banning of religion and so on and so forth, this is absolutely absurd. And, by the way, I've got the image of this painting on my screen right now.

[00:07:08] I looked it up, and it's a picture of Jesus Christ standing in front with open arms to a boat full of survivors, I guess, that were cast basically off their ship and they're on a lifeboat. They look like they're in despair and all that kind of stuff. And I'm looking through some of the comments that have been sent in, people that have graduated from the academy.

[00:07:37] By the way, the Merchant Marine Academy has long since fallen out of, shall we say, graces. Not maybe graces, but they've been ignored. Our Merchant Marine Force is really, I think, being ignored. And while the Chinese are, man, they're growing theirs by leaps and bounds. They've got the largest Merchant Marine Fleet in the world. And the United States has kind of let theirs languish.

[00:08:04] And so the whole academy, I think, needs to be kind of revitalized. And maybe, just maybe, part of that dreary hopelessness that settled upon the academy might have been that they turned their back away from, you know, a salvation point that they put in a, you know, a moldy basement. Artwork doesn't do good in high humidity, moldy conditions.

[00:08:34] They're talking about putting it in the chapel. But our whole premise on this thing has been kind of muddle-minded. We're really kind of, we're deep-sixing Jesus. And maybe it's kind of another, in my mind, an analogous kind of thing to when we basically banned the Savior

[00:09:01] from our public education system and what has happened since that happened. You know, I remember, I'm old enough to remember the prayers we had every morning in school. And, you know, of course, with the pledge and everything else like that. But the prayers we had and the Supreme Court said, nope, God can't be in school. The source of all knowledge is banned from the school system. So I kind of think there's a lot of things going on here in the Merchant Marine Academy. And a lot of things need to be corrected.

[00:09:31] But by the way, I think what the problem is that the academy is kind of held hostage in this battle. You know, you get the President Biden who basically shuts it down. You know, you get this criminal organization that wants to destroy all liberty. They want to destroy us from our past. They don't want us to have our heritage as a people. They don't want to have us have a tie to God Almighty or to the author of the universe or anything like that.

[00:09:57] And so, you know, I think the academy is pretty much held hostage by a lot of this in many ways. But and I support bringing it out of the basement. And we should not have, you know, banished this painting to the basement in the first place. I support the efforts. However, and I want to make this point and see what you think about this, Doctor. Sure. Whether that painting is brought up from the basement or not, that's a great politician's kind of creed. Hey, bring that up from the basement. Let Jesus rise again. Let's stand. And that's good.

[00:10:28] But unless we really turn people turn people's heart and mind to Christ in a real worship, a real fundamental way of testimony and belief and action. If you love me, keep my commandments. I appreciate we're going to bring the painting up from the basement. That's good. Don't get me wrong. It's kind of like hanging up the Ten Commandments around schools everywhere. I support the effort. But unless people really get in their hearts and minds and have faith under repentance, I don't really see it doing a lot of good.

[00:10:56] It's a great thing to promote because like, hey, man, I'm the secretary of transportation. I'm the Jesus guy. Bring Jesus back. That's great. But I don't really see it translating into true humility and worship and change and repentance and faith building necessarily unless we do other things to support that effort. It seems like to me, even though it's good, it's kind of a non-issue, doctor. Am I confused on this or what do you think?

[00:11:22] Well, no, I think that you make a point that I think needs to I would like to just kind of leap off of a little bit. Maybe it's off of the cliff. I don't know. But, you know, you say, well, I mean, if they cut the guts out of this thing and it's a it's a kind of a secular kind of, oh, this isn't really Jesus. But, you know, whatever. And they kind of downplay it all. I think I think you make a point that we really haven't gained much.

[00:11:49] However, let me just make a point here about if I were and I have, you know, spent time. I never got an Article 15 or a court martial or anything like that when I was in. But but here at the at the Merchant Marine Academy, the point is made that in the past. This room that it was in is where they held the honor code violation boards where the midshipmen were.

[00:12:19] We're going to talk about honesty and all your dealings. We're going to talk about accountability, transparency. Are you doing the moral thing or not? You know, discussions. Right. With Jesus right there. Well, you're right. And here's the deal. If I were the guy that were there being tried for my career, if you will, and whatever brought them to that point, it would be a humbling thing for me to look at that image and say, you know, I'm kind of without hope right now.

[00:12:48] I mean, I I've screwed up. You know, I'm on the way out, whatever they think. And and if I were making a case, maybe I'm being railroaded and I look at Jesus and think the truth shall set me free. Maybe that's the case, too. Right. Well, here's the deal. It's a it's a it's a message of hope. It's a message of mercy. And I think if I were before the board, I would say, you know, Jesus Christ is merciful to us all.

[00:13:14] And yes, I've I've had faults and I have done whatever egregious thing I did. And and I cast myself at your feet, hoping that you will have mercy and be able to see that I am trying to progress and do the right thing at this time. I mean, some kind of tie this in to what you're facing right now.

[00:13:36] And if you really are repentant, if you really are trying to make things right, I would tie that in and request that the board give that kind of consideration to me being able to stay in the service and and complete what I needed to do. And I came originally for to the merchant marine group. So. So. So anyway, I think that there's it's it's it's very appropriate that it's right there where they did these these honor trials.

[00:14:06] So here's the point. Here's the point. You get this, you know, secretary of transportation or whatever speaking out going, Jesus is going to rise from the basement. Are you all in? Amen. Hallelujah. Can we bring Jesus up for the basement? It's OK. It's great. I get it. But here's what's happened. By the time you then put it in its own room, you can go see it if you want to. The room won't be used for the purposes anymore. So now we're going to have the people tried and there's no Jesus present.

[00:14:34] No balance of mercy and justice. Legitimate discussion. And we're going to have those people tried and then Jesus won't be in the room. Then we're going to put this in this room that you can go see it if you want to. So now if you don't know if the room exists, you never see it. And then we're going to go put it in the chapel. Haven't we on this idea that Jesus is rising from the basement? We're making a big old to do that's positive and awesome. But haven't we divorced the real point, which is there's a commander in the universe,

[00:15:03] which is greater than government. And we need to appeal to that commander of the universe for mercy and justice. And now even though Jesus is rising from the basement, we've basically taken the teeth out of what Jesus can do for us as a people on both sides of this discussion. Whether you're the person in there that needs repentance and change or whether you're the adjudicating justice, mercy people or whatever. Or I'm just saying, wow, put that thing in the chapel. Wow, we've taken it out of the basement. That's great. It's not moldy. It's not getting destroyed. It's good.

[00:15:31] But we've divorced it from its purpose, doctor. And we're calling it a win, aren't we? Well, I think a lot of people would say that we shouldn't even do it at all. But I think it's a step in the right direction. Here's how I would handle it. Were I the one before the honor board? And the picture of Jesus wasn't even on the wall. I would say, formerly, this image was there. I would tie it back in.

[00:15:56] I would begin to bring it back in through reference and recognition and discussion. I agree, 100%. And so the people, I think that here it boils down to it right again, Sam. It's we the people. I mean, an image that has no meaning to anybody, if it's right there in your face and nobody gives a hang, is no better off than if it's in the basement.

[00:16:21] But if we begin to use it as a point of renewal, of return, I think it could be done beneficially. And I think that maybe it's a step in the right direction. And maybe, ultimately, and finally, it'll be brought to you. Let me take it to you this way. It's a step in the right direction, without a doubt, to take the painting out of the basement, to clean it up, to get it ready, to all that's good. What we the people need to do, and the reason I bring it up at this juncture, again, is I never want to be the complaint guy without solutions.

[00:16:47] The complaint is that, hey, we're divorcing this painting from its intent, which was to remind people of mercy and justice and that there's hope and repentance and change. And that's what this nation stands for. That was the intent when it was up and these, you know, military men would go into the room and it was there. No, that was the intent. Biden and clowns shut that down entirely, banished it to the basement, gone. Now, these guys are saying, hey, let's let it rise from the basement. That's great.

[00:17:15] But let's make sure that it's not just platitudes. Let's jump in and support this effort and say, hey, if we don't take it to its real conclusion or intent, I mean, it could just be a rallying cry that's meaningless. But if we, the people jump in and insist and say, no, we want that painting cleaned up and we need it back where it was. And we need to tie to this. We need to start out all discussions saying, hey, the king, the commander of the universe has offered repentance and change and an offer to keep his commandments.

[00:17:45] If you love me, keep my commandments and you can come to him and change. And so, yeah, we might have some consequences here in the military for you. But the real blessing is. This opportunity for repentance, the real blessing is this this this reminder, this tender mercy given to you, young man, young woman, whatever, who's done something. This is a chance for you to change. You've got the whole rest of your life ahead of you. And we want you to walk out of here knowing that you've done wrong and we have to have accountability for that. But at the same time, there is hope in Christ.

[00:18:15] And we, the people, have got to push that narrative. And if we don't, we miss a tremendous opportunity is my whole point, doctor. Well, you make some very good points. And the point of the matter that I think is a tragic travesty is that God and Christ have been removed from our psyche nationally by court decree, by legislative enactment, by policies, by whatever. By banishing paintings to the basement. Well, it's just not that, though, Sam.

[00:18:44] I mean, these every single child that goes to the godless institutions of indoctrination every single day and in our institutions of higher learning, we have removed. And so I'll just give an example of someone that I mean, we are becoming farther and farther as a society into a secular humanist, godless philosophy, a faith based system that does not believe in God.

[00:19:11] And many, many decades ago, there was a young man that had been profoundly isolated from society. And when asked, what did Jesus do for us? He said, I don't know. But he must be a horrible man, because every time I see something about him, they're killing him. He had been so isolated. We are moving to that condition for the nation. Our religiosity has diminished.

[00:19:37] It's not just in the academy where they train merchant marines. This is an epidemic, if you will, a COVID kind of panic thing. We'd never panic about this stuff. We just kind of let ourselves go adrift on this baby. And we send our kids in indoctrination transport vehicles that are yellow up and down the street every day.

[00:20:03] And we turn them over to those that teach them the humanist philosophies of Dewey and Marx and Keynes and Kinsey and Freud. I mean, you know, come on, people. This is society. Society, it's not just an isolated picture of an image of our Savior in a long forgotten academy. And that's my point, is I really want people to understand, hey, you know what?

[00:20:30] It's tragic that this painting was banished to the basement in the first place. It's good that they want to bring it from the basement. They want to bring Jesus up from the basement. They want Jesus to rise again. That's all good. But let's connect it to real humility, real discussions of the atonement of Christ, justice and mercy and that incredible balance. And what an opportunity, what a time to talk about this. You know, what do they call this? Holy Week. Is that right?

[00:20:56] Well, no, it's a, you know, it's the whole Palm Sunday and then Holy Week and then Easter. That's what they call it. We have the crucifixion. And I mean, this whole thing is a momentous time. And it's a hinge point in all of history. It truly is. It is. And they call it Holy Week. Please go see The Chosen. Last Supper is playing now in theaters. Have you gone to see it, Doctor? I don't think it's playing in my area. I have not heard anything about it. You need to look and check. Probably not.

[00:21:26] There's three parts from what I understand of this season that's playing in theaters. And they show two episodes because it's a TV show, basically. But they show two episodes at a time when you go to the theater as one kind of movie. And I've gone and seen the first four episodes of the season. And, man, it is tremendous. And I go in theaters on purpose because I want to support and fund the effort. Right? It's a pay it forward kind of a model. And I want to support the theaters. I want to support society.

[00:21:56] So I always try to get a snack. I try to do everything I can to support it. And so I've watched the first two parts. And now I'm going to go see the last part hopefully this week sometime. But it is something to be whole. It is just great stuff, Doctor. Well, I don't doubt that a bit. But I'm looking right now as we're talking, trying to find a local theater that shows it. But I think that the university, well, you know, I've got this philosophy. It's an aphorism.

[00:22:25] The higher the population density, the greater the propensity to socialism. Yeah, except for you live in a less socialism place than I do. And it's in my theater. Well, like I say, though, but my university here has a big footprint on this community. And I believe they've basically introduced a greater godlessness because you guys have got a greater diversity of population where you are. But I'm looking for the place here locally. I'm not finding it right now, but I may come up with it.

[00:22:54] You've kind of pinged me a little bit. Yeah, anyway, we need a massive religious revival in this country. Ladies and gentlemen, I mean, I appreciate bringing Jesus up in the painting from the basement. That's great. And it's a good thing. I'm not criticizing it one bit.

[00:23:10] I'm just trying to bring up the point that unless we take this to the next level and really ingrain the Savior's suffering and resurrection in our hearts and in our minds and then tie that to our thoughts and our actions, it'll be hollow. Right? It'll be hollow. And that's what I'm really trying to prevent. I'm trying to take every opportunity that we get as a reminder, as an option to say, hey, let's take this to the next level. Let's have a real religious revival. Right?

[00:23:40] It could be a personal revival. Right? It can be a family revival. It could be a community revival. It could be. I mean, it could be the greatest revival in history. Right? If we let it. They say they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. That's an aphorism that I think applies greatly in our modern era.

[00:25:02] Yeah.

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[00:30:27] Dr. Scott Bradley is with me. freedomsrisingsun.com is website. So, Director Cash Patel has named Stephen J. Jensen as the assistant director in charge of the Washington field office over at the FBI. You say, well, Sam, what's wrong with that? Dan Bongino responds to the FBI appointment of J6 and this official. Here's the bottom line.

[00:30:56] This guy, this Jensen guy, is a thug. He's the one that basically engineered and led this effort to persecute and prosecute J6 defendants. Many of them super peaceful. And everybody is wondering, what on earth did Cash do? Now, it's hard for me to know what to do in this regard because on one hand, I want to just go off on Cash. But you know what? Is there more behind the scenes? We don't know. Dan Bongino says, wait and see.

[00:31:26] I don't like this wait and see deal. Anyway, Steve Baker and others over at the Blaze are discussing this. It's kind of a long piece, so I'm going to play parts of it and see what we can do here. Here's the discussion. What is it about Jensen that concerns you that is even on the list of possibilities of having this immensely powerful role? He was a key figure in this domestic terror push against January Sixers.

[00:31:53] According to testimony before the House, he treated them all as terrorists and was one of the key instigators in pushing the narrative within the bureaucracy that these folks needed to be jailed and ferreted out. So they're talking about Steve Jensen, who was recently named the assistant director of the FBI's Washington field office.

[00:32:16] Now, this comes as a shock to conservatives who were counting on FBI Director Cash Patel to clean up the bureau because Jensen was a key figure in the domestic terror push against January Sixers protesters. Blaze News investigative journalists Steve Baker and Joe Hanneman detailed this development in a piece for Blaze News. And Steve joins us right now.

[00:32:38] So what should we make of this decision to have Steve Jensen out there in the Washington field office? What should we make of it? I will tell you, this is the most confounding thing to come out of the administration thus far, especially out of the new FBI, the new Department of Justice. As you know, we expected and we hoped that Cash and Dan Bongino collectively would be a wrecking ball in that agency or that bureau.

[00:33:05] In fact, that's what they alluded to and told us that they would do in so many interviews and in Cash Patel's own book. We gave them here at the Blaze and myself included our full throated endorsement of their nominations. We applauded their confirmations and we look forward to the best and we still hope for the best from them. But this one doesn't make any sense for a lot of reasons.

[00:33:28] The first and most significant thing is that this happened over a week and a half ago when this was announced internally through an email that was sent to about 2,500 FBI employees there in the Washington field office. This announcement was made to them. Obviously, you can't send out an email in D.C. to 2,500 people and not expect it to be leaked to the press somewhere, to somebody.

[00:33:52] And in fact, on Friday of last week, the New York Times, not in an article about this, but kind of parenthetically six or seven paragraphs down, just mentioned this appointment as though it actually really happened. And they were even confounded. They said this seemed to be kind of contrary to what Cash Patel has promised the MAGA movement, the Trump supporters and the J6 community.

[00:34:17] And then the next day, a gateway pundit came out and said that it was fake news and that they had that on a highly placed source in the FBI. Well, then, of course, we acquired through the Blaze Media that email confirming that this had actually happened. In fact, that he was already an employee, but it was not announced in any way. This was done kind of, you know, surreptitiously under the cover of darkness. Nobody announced it. There was no press release. There was no announcement from Cash Patel or any other FBI spokesman.

[00:34:45] And it wasn't until we caused a ruckus through our X thread on Sunday that finally, after reaching out to the FBI Washington field office yesterday, that they finally responded and said, just go check the website. And we did. And we went to the WFO website. And Stephen Jensen's name has been added as acting director in charge. And that's the only confirmation we have so far, that he's actually in that position.

[00:35:15] Steve, tell us, give us a little more color on Jensen and why people are so upset. What did he do? What did he do? Why are people so upset? Well, it's the part of the agency that he was in charge of. I mean, he was tasked with heading up the actual investigation all the way through the prosecution of these individuals that were charged with crimes. As you know, myself, I was caught up in this dragnet as well, being a journalist on that day.

[00:35:42] And, you know, so I may or may not have some personal feelings about this, but trying to put those aside as best I can and be straightforward. And as a journalist on this, there were a lot of lives that were ruined. My life was not destroyed. We've talked about that ad nauseum. Oh, so we don't need to go into that at all here. But a lot of lives were destroyed.

[00:36:01] We're talking about misdemeanor defendants, nonviolent defendants, families that were SWAT raided by FBI SWAT teams at 630 in the morning, guns up on their family, on their children, on their wives. People lost their homes. They lost their jobs or careers. They were kicked out of their churches. They lost their marriages. All manner of family destruction and lives that were ruined as a result of this process. And this guy was at the actual forefront.

[00:36:29] He was the tip of the spear in the agency that was seeing this forward. And then, of course, as we know, as they established this narrative, the left, the Biden administration, saw this as an extra advantage to go after all of the basic conservative protesting type of organizations. We're talking about the families that protested at your local school board meetings. We're talking about the traditional Catholics and such as that.

[00:36:57] And this guy was in charge of that and advocating that they go ahead and move forward in all these positions and all of these initiatives as well. Well, you talked about narrative. I think that that's one of the more interesting parts of Jensen's particular story. Tell our audience about the twice daily phone calls that he was a part of. Yeah, this this was a surprise to me as I began to pull back the layers of the onion on this story over the weekend.

[00:37:23] In four years of my own investigations into all things January 6th, I had no idea that there was a twice daily phone call that began only two days after January 6th in which the FBI was inviting in through one of their special resources that they have. All of the policing agencies across the local state police, as well as the governor's mansions, as well as the mayoral residences and offices at every city in America.

[00:37:52] They could sign in twice daily and get the narrative, the marching order and the agenda that was being portrayed. And this was basically I don't even know any other way to say it. This was this was a national forum for which they were able to indoctrinate all of the law enforcement agencies across the country, the mayor's offices, the governors across the country and teach them, tell them and show them how to go out and prosecute these individuals.

[00:38:20] Now, look, I've said from the beginning, had the Department of Justice not overreached from the very beginning and had just gone off the after the most violent offenders that day, we probably wouldn't even be talking about January 6th right now. There probably would have been no pardons that day. But the overreach was so egregious. It was so massive in some ways, despite the the lives that were destroyed, they kind of did us a favor and showed their hand when they turned that card over and showed us what they were willing to do and how far they were willing to push.

[00:38:48] You and I, 20 years ago, highlighted these fusion centers and highlighted this. Hey, you know what? They're putting together a basically a secret police force with a top down, up and down the line kind of transfer of information. It started with anybody that's a Ron Paul supporter in Missouri needs to be considered. Hey, enemy number one or kind of a terrorist or whatever you want to say. Now we're finding that that apparatus was literally weaponized and used by Steven Jensen.

[00:39:16] And now Cash Patel has literally put this guy in charge of the Washington field office. He got a promotion. Yeah, I think you're reinforcing the wrong behavior here. And I think that there's there needs to be a revisiting of this thing. Look, Dan Bongino, he's the deputy director of the FBI. I mean, this guy is a senior position. He works with Cash.

[00:39:45] They probably even actually have each other's phone numbers. Can you imagine? But the fact of the matter is, you know, you say, Dan's saying, wait and see, baby, wait and see. Well, sometimes you have to kind of put things on ice a little bit until you see. I mean, you don't go ahead with an announcement and an installation or ordination or coronation.

[00:40:07] I don't know what this guy's job entails, but it seems to me like he's been put in a very senior position that has the reins of many, many things in his hands. And I don't know why Dan would say that. I mean, you know, Dan is an interesting study in my mind. But but I think that this thing needs to you need to dig in and say, huh? And decide how how you make sure that you don't reinforce bad behavior.

[00:40:36] I mean, you look at you look at how this is beyond reinforcement of bad behavior, though. I mean, this is literally like I don't know why you would ever instead of prosecuting this guy, instead of putting this guy in jail, instead of you can't say what he did was under the leadership of the FBI. This was a personal judge, an executioner of all these people. Yeah, vendetta for over sixteen hundred people.

[00:40:59] Then they even tried to, you know, round up people like me and say, because Sam Bushman interviewed Stuart Rhodes the day before the event went down, that now Sam's guilty, too. And I mean, they tried to make the dragnet as big as they possibly could. This Steve Jensen guy was in charge of the whole thing, pretty much. And now we're going to go ahead and promote him. And here's what Dan Bongino says. Hey, let's give this guy a little bit of a break. Let's give it a chance. There's things behind the scenes we can't share with you guys. But just be patient. Have no doubt that we're still on board.

[00:41:29] We're going to get this done. The problem is, Dr. Bradley, I'm losing confidence. Well, it is a pretty egregious chasm, I guess, that's developing here on these kinds of things. And it's the antithesis of the original intent of the American founding fathers. This Jensen guy, you know, he went, hold on, slap shot, shoot first and ask questions later, it sounds like.

[00:41:55] And what the American founding fathers wanted to do is they, if they biased the judicial system, they biased it in favor of the accused. And it's just, as pointed out in that little extended interview, that the people's lives were ruined. You lost jobs. You lost marriages. You lost, you know, any credibility. I mean, people were, you know, ostracized and distanced from their churches. Everything. And you were a hunted criminal.

[00:42:22] Now, that's the problem is that nowadays it's a shoot first and ask questions later, hang them high kind of thing. And the whole United States judicial system is focused that way. And it's the antithesis of the American founding fathers or the savior for that matter. I mean, here's somebody that was accused by a group of very biased accusers that wanted to put him to death and use the Romans to do it so they wouldn't have the blame.

[00:42:50] Well, this Jensen guy wanted everybody put to death. He wasn't pardoned, was he? I mean, if he was pardoned, I mean, it's kind of like, okay, you got your pardoned. No, he wasn't pardoned. He was promoted. Yeah. No, I know that. But, you know, they just said, I mean, yeah, you know, it's time to separate. We're not happy about it. I don't know why Bongino was this way. I mean, you know, he, it's just astounding to me. You know, he's done, you know, police work and Secret Service stuff and everything.

[00:43:18] Did a, you know, long-term kind of, I don't know, podcast kind of program where he talked the talk. But I'm wondering what's happened to that talk nowadays. It's just strange. I don't know. But here's what I will say. The Gateway Pundit has a great article out right now by Jim Hoft that basically, in my opinion, articulates kind of the deal on this thing. And here's the headline.

[00:43:48] They say it's an exclusive. I'm going to delete that because once they've printed it and I'm talking about it, it's not exclusive. Proud Boys, Zach Rel, I think is how you say it, R-E-H-L, Rel, and Joe Biggs speak out after Trump pardons. They say U.S. government continues to persecute these veterans despite their release by President Trump.

[00:44:17] And there's a video about it and everything else. And so you go, what's going on here? These people are still being basically prosecuted and persecuted and harassed. And, yeah, they've been released, but many of them don't have homes to go to. They don't have places to go to. Local police departments are hostile to them. One of them got released and then got shot right after. Well, no wonder.

[00:44:39] This clown, this thug, Stephen Jensen literally poisoned all the police departments, all the mayors, all the governors, everybody in the nation. Two phone calls a day for weeks, for months, highlighting the details of this thing, poisoning everyone against the J6ers. And now this guy's been promoted. This is beyond something to take lightly.

[00:45:07] I'm telling you right now, I don't know how we can go forward and have any confidence, Doctor. I just don't. Well, you know, to completely throw the baby out with the bathwater might be not appropriate at this time. But stop and think what he did with Matt Gaetz or Gaetz, however the heck he says his name. It became a liability. And I think this whole appointment with this Jensen guy should become a liability to anybody that's in the FBI.

[00:45:34] I mean, Cash and Dan and everybody ought to say, you know what? It just doesn't quite fit with the forward-going approach that we're going to try and have a non-weaponized kind of environment. I mean, they've let people lose their security clearances that proved they were unworthy of them. Why can't they let somebody that's in a law enforcement kind of role that has proved to be kind of a tyrant in his approach to things?

[00:46:02] Eh, well, it just doesn't fit the way we're doing business now. I don't know why they couldn't. They could withdraw the appointment. It just seems to me the natural thing to do. So anyway, I don't know how to feel about that, but I'm just saying to you that what a disgrace that is. You know, I just don't understand what could make you put Stephen J. Jensen in there after all that's going on. We're not prosecuting these people. We're not arresting anybody. We're just putting them in high-level positions.

[00:46:31] Now, here's the last part that confuses me. I don't even know what Trump's doing anymore. I can't even tell if I'm for or against the things that Trump does. I'm for half of it. I'm against half of it on almost every topic under the sun. Just take this tariff thing. I'm totally for tariffs. But I'm not for just adding tariffs. Another basically tax on top of the incredible out-of-control taxes the American people are already paying. And that's what it is. It's just another tax unless you reduce taxes elsewhere.

[00:47:01] He's put these tariffs on. He's created a moral hazard in the market. Now he suspends the taxes or the, you know, tariffs for 90 days. Now he gives a special privilege for electronics and says that's out. Then he gets mad at everybody and says, oh, the press is horrible. How dare the press report this this way? So now he wants to sue members of the press for not getting it right. I don't know how to get it right, doctor. I don't even know which way is up anymore. Well, I don't think Trump does either, honestly.

[00:47:29] I mean, it's kind of one of those things I just mentioned a few moments ago. Shoot first and ask questions later. I think there needs to be somewhat of a less bombastic approach to the way things are where everything's a slap shot. I mean, this is the executive is supposed to be a mature adult. And so is the people that he's supposed to have surrounded himself with. He should be getting good counsel.

[00:47:55] And if the people aren't giving him good counsel, he maybe needs to shake up his administration a little bit. But here's the problem. He got rolled many, many, many times in very big issues in his first administration by people that counseled him, apparently, to do the very, very wrong thing. And, for example, the USMCA, the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement. All in, baby. This was a globalist movement to a regional arrangement under the United Nations.

[00:48:26] That's what the USMCA is. His, quote-unquote, conservative people, his negotiators. I mean, his counsel he got about, you know, sending off Tomahawk missiles against Syria. I mean, there were people around him that were misdirecting him. And if he can't say the buck stops here, John F. Kennedy Jr. stopped World War III probably by the way he handled the Cuba missile crisis

[00:48:50] and got a hotline to Khrushchev and straightened things out without his generals all saying, launch him, launch him. I mean, the president has to have a kind of a settling of the responsibility and quit slap-shotting everything. And maybe this Stephen J. Jensen guy, somebody came in and said, here's a good guy that he's been with the FBI for nearly 20 years. I mean, golly.

[00:49:16] But, you know, I just, I just, it really concerns me that we have to, you know, it's like he's letting the bait out and he's reeling the day and he's playing the fish. I don't know what the heck he's doing. And it changes about twice a day, it seems like. And it's very concerning, if not just confusing. But I think it's concerning. The purpose of government is to create a stable, stable society, a playing field.

[00:49:45] When we talk about the welfare of the nation, we're not talking about handouts. We're talking, and we're not about, you know, we're talking about welfare in terms of stability and safety and prosperity and a level playing field and things that you can count on and all this kind of stuff. That's all out the window with this. It's just a disgrace. That predictability, stability, and yeah, you base it on principles.

[00:50:11] And the principles seem to be shifting an awful lot. And we've got a subject here. I mean, I know we've got to close this down in just a very short period of time. But the executive needs to have that stabilizing hand, you know, and Truman even, as little as I like Truman, he used to have a plaque on his desk that said, the buck stops here.

[00:50:36] And it was something that the president needed to take executive responsibility for things instead of just, you know, let's just slap this, the puck over here for a little while and see how that works. Oh, somebody's going to return it. Let's try this. Yeah, there's give and take in politics. But the fact of the matter is it needs to be a stable, predictable direction based upon what? Oh, the Constitution. Can you imagine?

[00:51:02] It's a job description that outlines specifically what your duties are. And by the way, this tariff thing, you mentioned that a few minutes ago. I think there's a movement now in the Senate. The Senate and the House are remiss in it completely. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1 says specifically they have power over tariffs. By the way, they have exclusive power and they don't have the authority to delegate that power to anybody else either. Correct.

[00:51:28] And so there's some movement over in the Congress to say, what the heck is this guy doing? Now, others, I've read people that say, oh, no, it's got to be in one hands. No, the founding fathers didn't think so. There needs to be a kind of a mature view of this thing. Somebody has to be the adult in the room that says, okay, this is the way that the entire contract is written.

[00:51:55] The contract with America is the United States Constitution. And this is specifically our duty. We are going to exercise that duty. You can't just say, oh, golly, those blasted Democrats aren't going to do anything. If, you know, if we turn it over to the Congress, it's got to be in the... No, that isn't the way it was. Congress has the responsibility, the duty, and they must step up to it.

[00:52:20] Everything that's happening right now that's so helter-skelter, I think, would largely just basically be resolved if we... It would be easy to resolve it if we just would, but it's going to take us turning to God Almighty, realize there's a power greater than government. It's going to take a humble, repentant people to receive the blessings the Almighty, the author of liberty, has for us. And nothing short of that will accomplish the goal.

[00:52:43] Now, there's a lot of good things and a lot of bad things, but we've got to decide where we stand and what we're going to advocate for and what we're going to spend our time on. And I submit all things are not equal. Turning to Christ, watching the chosen, reminding ourselves who we are. We're God's children, sons and daughters of the Almighty God. We need to remember that. All right, one last story before the end of the hour. I don't know if you've ever heard of TNT Radio, TNT News. They're a group out of Australia. They were a conservative radio network, did a great job.

[00:53:13] I've appeared on their shows a couple of times from events as a commentator and anything else. TNT News and Radio signing off for now. Sadly, this ended last year and I didn't even know it. But TNT Radio, online news station from Australia, ends due to lack of funds. They were known for high quality audio and podcasts and videos and just a great group of people. And I guess they had to pull the plug. No funding, doctor.

[00:53:43] So if they're promoting porn, they'd have plenty of funding. If they do this, stand for true principles around the globe in Australia. No money. You look at the inconsistency. I mean, National Public Radio gets our taxpayer dollar, you know. And where people are trying to use the First Amendment appropriately, they get starved out. It's really kind of an upside down world we're in right now. Don't lose faith, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:54:11] Hope springs, faith springs eternal positive viewpoints. Christ did rise from the dead. His Father is in charge. We can take that to the bank. And in that is our salvation. And in that are the seeds of solutions. If we, the people, get involved, repent, and take action.

[00:54:39] For Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com and yours truly, God save the republic.