Radio Show Hour 1 – 04/09/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman live on your radio. This is the broadcast for April 9th in the year of our Lord 2025. Hour 1 of 2, promoting God, family, country, protecting life, liberty, and property, and doing so on your radio in the traditions of our founders.

[00:00:40] Folks, we've got so many stories today, we've just got to get after it. Lance Migliaccio, George Ballantyne, the Big Mig Bros with me, thebigmig.com. Every weekend, an award-winning radio show on libertynewsradio.com. They also do incredible talk radio via Rumble, X, and more. Just look for the Big Mig found everywhere. Lance, welcome, sir. Hey, Sam. Good morning, man. You know, snapping next cash and checks, doing what we do, and we're bringing the receipts today.

[00:01:08] There's lots going on, and we're ready to throw the gauntlet down. Amen to that, but I'm just not cashing as many checks as I would like, though. Yeah, nobody ever is. We're always looking for more checks to catch. George, are you cashing all the checks, buddy? Welcome, sir. This is a Me Too movement, and no, I'm not. I love it. Oh, man, don't we wish it was Me Too, huh? It is a Me Too. You're not cashing checks? Me too. Neither am I. I know it.

[00:01:37] It's a tragedy, but hopefully we'll catch more checks as time goes on, because, ladies and gentlemen, we do need your support. You know, Sam, we just need a Magic Money computer. That's all we need, buddy. One of the 14 Magic Money computers, and we're ready to rock and roll. For half an hour. Who would send one to you, though? Would it be Barack, or would it be Joe? I asked Elon Musk for one. I went on to X and asked him online. I asked Elon. I said, look, the Big Mig show would like a Magic Money computer for one hour. You know, Barack is in the doghouse, man. I'm going to go with maybe Hunter's got one.

[00:02:06] I don't know. Hunter might have one for sure. Barack, I think, is not in the doghouse. He's in the doghouse. His ratings are in the dirt. Yeah, but he doesn't care about ratings as long as he has that money machine. No kidding. Well, I don't know if he's got that money machine anymore. You can rate me as low as you want to while I laugh all the way to the bank. And Mike Obama is not happy either. I mean, the divorce talks are... Yeah, there's a lot of divorce talks. Her podcast show is... Wait, her podcast show.

[00:02:35] His podcast show is tanking. Yes, it does matter because it seems like slowly she's putting it out there. Putting it out there slowly that, you know, she's going to... Meaning that she's going to... She's a tranny, a man. Dude looks like a lady. And that's going to hurt... Wait, listen, that's going to hurt Obama's ego, man. No, it's not. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. Everybody's going to know Obama... Everybody's going to know Obama as the catcher. Yeah.

[00:03:05] Yeah, he's fine with that. He's cool. I don't know. Yeah, you let him be president. You give him pension for life. You give him secret service for life. I got to bring this up. What more does he need? I got to bring this up. Yes, sir. I've heard rumors of Barack, though, being a switch hitter. Maybe he had some kind of an affair with Jennifer Aniston. It's an allegation. And that would make Michelle livid. Mike just can't take that to her. Is there some truth? I mean, I'm just wondering, is there any truth in it? Right now, I don't see it. Would Jennifer Aniston bring a woman into the mix? Yes. Yes.

[00:03:34] Oh, you just... I like... Jennifer Aniston is hot, but if that's true, she's ugly now. Yeah, I don't know. This is not... I don't... It's all allegations. So far, there's no facts, but that has been circulating. I'm going with that's a bad conspiracy theory, and that's a bad one. Yeah. Here's what I'm going with. You know, I'll tell you what's fascinating to me. How do these clowns, whether it be Barack Obama or any of these people, how do they hide so much of their life from you? We have no idea where he was born.

[00:04:04] We have no idea if his birth certificate's even legitimate. That's not. We have no idea who mentored him in the business of politics and everything else. You know, he was supposedly this, you know, organizer or whatever. But, you know, you don't just become, you know, Joe Blow, half black dude serving ice cream in Hawaii when you're a kid to rock star president of the United States when you've only hit the Senate floor for a small, you know, chunk of time to be a senator in the first place.

[00:04:32] Somehow that rise to fame and power didn't happen by accident. Where did the money come from? Where did the connections come from? Where did the, you know, supposedly this, you know, foreign father that's clueless and this mother that whatever was dead and, you know, not even around. You know, how does all this happen? And what's interesting to me is we know nothing about most of these people. Lance, nothing. Not really. You know, I've got to tell you the, the, the weaponization and the sophistication of what they've done.

[00:04:59] You know, when people say Operation Mockingbird, I think that is so, it's, it's really remedial. This is far beyond what, what Operation Mockingbird was. They've really, they really put a plan in place and they've done such an amazing job. Yeah, it's like Operation Canary in the coal mine, huh? Yeah, but the incredible job they've done of creating, you know, and propagating narratives and controlling narratives, controlling operations. Look at what an amazing job they did in hiding the Hunter Biden laptop story.

[00:05:29] Look at, you know, the dirty 51 and plus eight and, you know, the Russian collusion hoax. And they said it was Russian disinformation, but yet it was true the whole time. The CIA knew, the FBI knew, the administration knew, of course, Joe Biden and them all knew. And look what they did. I don't know. Joe, Joe might not have, but yes, you're right. Everybody else knew. Joe might not even know where he's at, but that's another topic. Yeah, I mean, but even that part, look what an amazing job they did of hiding Joe Biden. How do they bury all that information on Joe?

[00:05:58] How do we not know anything about Barack Obama? How do we, you know, how did Homeland Security get created by the Republicans after, you know, 9-11 and how, I mean, you got to go down that whole list. But let me ask you another question that I think is related to this. Can you think of a single law-abiding good thing that the President of the United States could do or say that the majority of the American people and government officials would agree with slash champion? Because here's what's happened. We've become so polarized. You want me to go?

[00:06:28] I can go first on this. You can go first in a second. But just so people understand, the American people are so polarized, government's so polarized to where even the most common sense, right, good, honorable thing that everybody in their right mind would agree with, there's just a massive divide fault line battle over. Because of hatred, because of partisan politics, because of whatever reason. I can't think of a single good, honorable thing somebody could stand up and do, president or anybody else, that would be championed. It would be just like, you know what? That's awesome.

[00:06:58] That's great. Good. Is there a single thing, George? Well, I got two. I think if Trump moved forward and got rid of our income tax, you know, get rid of the IRS, get rid of our income tax. I think everybody might be on board. I'm not talking to everybody like politicians, because, you know, they'll cry about anything. But that's for everybody. You're going to have to get that passed by Congress, though.

[00:07:27] So, you know, this is what I'm talking about. It's a great thing for the American people. It would be a great thing for our economy if we're going to raise money through the external IRS, if you will, or the terrorist side of the question. We could give relief to the American people. I support it 100%, but I think you'd have a big opposition to this. I really do. My other thing is round up all the liberals in this country, stick them in Alaska, put Alaska as, like, not even a state anymore. And then everybody in this country would be happy and agree with that. That's my other thing.

[00:07:57] Okay. So if you take out half of society, the rest will agree, Lance. Well, you know, I think we're in a really – we're in a precarious moment, really, when you look at it. That's exactly the reason that I'm bringing this up. But can you think of a single item, though, Lance? Well, I will tell you this.

[00:08:14] With the way that people are brainwashed in what I call a mental health crisis and, you know, the unit parties in full force and effect, the difficulty comes that no matter what you do, the extremists are never – and, of course, the paid operatives – are never going to go and say, oh, this is an amazing move. I agree with George. George, the top thing would be if all of a sudden there was a 0% federal income tax rate or maybe even 10%. They would find extreme difficulty in going against the narrative.

[00:08:42] But because of the paid operatives, even if the majority of the American public said they agreed with it and they loved it, you would still believe because of what happens with mainstream media, you know, and what happens with the paid people, the people that are actually getting paid to promote the lies. We've seen a lot of that proof come out through USAID.

[00:09:02] We would still believe, based on the visuals, that people didn't support it and people were angry about it or there was a reason that it wasn't good for the country and it was going to drive us into the toilet. Yeah, let me give you a quick example. Senator Warren's been out of control talking about the stock market and talking how he tanked the economy, but yet the market's already coming back. We've got almost 80 countries now per inside information that George and I got. 80 countries have already come to the table. Yeah, they have. We'll get into that in just a minute. But I want to be clear about this.

[00:09:30] So Ron Paul went on Glenn Beck's show years ago. Yeah. And Ron Paul said, hey, let's abolish the IRS. And Glenn laughed at him and said, you'll never get that done. How do you do that? We can't afford it. Ron Paul basically said, I'll prove it to you. And so Ron Paul went and got the information to Glenn. Glenn eventually apologized and said, Ron's right. Now, here's the point, though. I actually remember that. Here's the point. That just means, though, the Glenn Beck's of the world. They're kind of a bellwether. I mean, they do a lot of good. They've done more good now that they don't work for the mainstream media as much.

[00:09:59] They're better, but they still don't get it. And I look at that and I say, how much of the nation does get it? Most people will say, oh, you can't get rid of the IRS. There's no way to replace that revenue. There's no way to do this. There's no way to do it. Now, they're wrong. If you study the facts, it could be done fairly easily. And I appreciate Donald Trump saying he wants to abolish income tax. But so far, I don't see any of it. I don't see any relief whatsoever on taxes. And I support tariffs. But the way these tariffs are being used and everything else is a problem.

[00:10:29] We're just going to get piled on with no relief anywhere, as far as I can see. Because, look, Mike Johnson hates Trump. He says he likes Trump. But he's slow walking everything Donald Trump is trying to accomplish. Yeah, I don't trust him. Intentionally. Yeah. When we come back, I'll let George respond. I don't trust George. I think he has a comment on this. Hang tight. But we'll dig into this, folks. I support the abolition of the IRS ASAP. But I don't see it even being, oh, it's talked about. But I don't see it being a reality anytime soon. I wish, I wish I were wrong.

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[00:12:50] Empower your day with the truth because the truth will set you free. Liberty News Radio. Liberty News Radio.com. All right. Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen. So I like this IRS thing. Okay? I like this idea. President Trump wasn't joking. He's called for Congress to abolish the income tax, which I support a thousand percent. This is huge, George.

[00:13:20] It is huge. And, you know, even though you don't see our Congress people talking about it, but Trump's talking about it. And if Trump's talking about it, it's going to get the people talking about it and start putting pressure. You know, they're saying it's going to take Congress, like, until the summer to get this one big bill put through. I mean, they're just being lazy about it. I don't know why it's taking them so long. But if you just look in Congress, what have they? Hold on. Because they're intentionally slow-walking anything President Trump wants to accomplish because they hate the Donald. That's why.

[00:13:50] I'm telling you right now. I know. I mean, if you look at it, what have they done since Trump's been in office? They haven't passed really nothing. I don't see nothing being put forward. The Daily Act or whatever else, fine. But other than that, you know, nothing. Yeah. Can we get some election laws put through? I mean, he's putting executive orders, executive orders. They're just Band-Aids in my eyes because they can always be changed by another president. I agree. But I don't want to attack Trump over that. He's doing his very best to lead and say, this is what I support.

[00:14:20] Here's the leadership. Now go get it done in Congress and I'll sign it. And now they're basically slow-walking him and intentionally the deep state led by Mike Johnson is undermining Donald Trump. That's my opinion. You know, he's in a mode right now. It's like he don't give a flying F, if you know what I mean. I can't say it on radio. And he's in that mode. So I'm surprised he's not just attacking and calling out Johnson and others. Because he's got a big voice. I agree. 100%. Start calling him out.

[00:14:50] All right. Let's play this soundbite. We've got a soundbite number one with this IRS thing. Here's what Donald says about it. Then we'll talk about it. It's time for the United States to return to the system that made us richer and more powerful than ever before. Do you know, the United States in 1870 to 1913, all tariffs, and that was the richest period in the history of the United States, relatively speaking. In other words, relatively.

[00:15:18] And they set up the great tariff commission of 1887. And this commission had one function, what to do with all the money that we took in. It was so enormous that they had no idea. It was a blue ribbon committee. It was set up 1887. And what to do with all of the money that we had.

[00:15:40] And, again, Teddy Roosevelt was a beneficiary because when McKinley was killed, he took over this vast sum of money. And he did all of those national parks and all of the other things. And I'm not knocking him, but he was given a vast amount of money. And that was all made through tariffs. We had no income tax. The income tax came in in 1913.

[00:16:02] As I said in my speech last week, instead of taxing our citizens to enrich foreign nations, we should be tariffing and taxing foreign nations to enrich our citizens. Does that make sense? That's great. But he never said it to boss the IRS, though. See, he hints at it. But he doesn't directly clearly say it. Right, Lance? Well, my take is this, that Trump has a standard operating MO, right?

[00:16:32] He's got a modus operandi that he always kind of telegraphs in advance of where he's heading to kind of grease the skids. You know, for 1789 to 1930, we were a tariff-backed nation. That's what the founders and framers had always counted on. The income tax was supposed to be a temporary solution to make up for a shortfall. And that's not what it became. It became a permanent solution. And I think a lot of it's got to do with the Federal Reserve banking system that came into play.

[00:16:57] And, of course, allowing an independent group like the Federal Reserve, and there's nothing federal about it, and there's nothing reserve about it, to enrich individuals that control our currency and have created a fiat currency is really where this all started, in my opinion. And those are very, very powerful individuals. And the Federal Reserve is extremely powerful at this point. But the excessive amount of money we're being charged for our own currency to be printed and then paying interest on something that has nothing backing it is beyond ridiculous.

[00:17:25] So I know Trump has a cartel that he has to break up. And as you said, Sam, and as George concurred with and I agree with, you know, we've got a Congress. You know, we heard about, oh, we've taken the House. Oh, we've taken the Senate. And yet they're doing nothing. Johnson is weak. I believe he's compromised. I believe that they've got some dirt on him or something else. He's worthless. His individual hate of Trump is independent of his being compromised.

[00:17:51] And I think this, I think if we're going to change this, we're going to have to have accountability and consequences. Some of these individuals that are guilty of being compromised, they're going to have to face their consequences. If you want to get Congress in line, they can't be allowed to continue doing what they're doing where there's rules for thee and not for me, where they're enriching themselves on the backs of the American people and the American nation. And there's no consequences for that. And I really, truly believe that's the heart of the problem.

[00:18:20] I agree 100 percent. And I mean, I call my congressman, can't get a hold of anybody. You know, we're supposed to have about one for every 30,000 citizens, a member of Congress. They manipulated the law and prevented that and capped it at 435. So now I don't know if you know this, but the average American is in a pool of about 800,000 to 1 million people per representative. No wonder they can't take our calls or talk to us or deal with us or, you know, we violated the. OK, again, we don't have any representation anymore.

[00:18:48] The Senate used to be represented by the states. Then they put the 17th Amendment in and had that directly elected by the people. But I mean, you've only got two senators in your state. So I've got me and about 800,000 to a million people fight for my congressman's attention. And then there's only two senators in the state of Utah. So that means me and about 1.7 million or whatever that number is, you know, can deal with a senator if you say each half of the state has a senator. Really, you have two senators.

[00:19:18] But so I have almost 4 million people in the state of Utah and I've got two senators. So I've got one in 2 million chance to get a hold of my senator. Good luck. No wonder we have no representation and no wonder they don't care what we have to say. Just send Sam Bushman a voicemail. Who cares? You know, and then I call and I say, hey, I get a hold of one of their staffs. Now, just so you know, if I call my congressman, this is a brand new congressman, too. I'm ashamed of him. But here's the deal. And I really like the guy. His name is Mike Kennedy. He's a good guy. But he's just I don't know what's happened.

[00:19:47] But when you go to Washington, something crazy goes on. So now I call and it says, hey, press one. If you are a staff member from another congressional office, listen, press two. If you're a citizen and want to leave a voicemail about something that matters to you, you know, press three. If you want to come take a tour of Congress, we'll help set one up for you. OK, if I press two, I just go straight to voicemail every time. The only way I can get to a human is if I press one and pretend I'm a staffer of another office. I was just going to say.

[00:20:16] Then when I get my person, I say to them, hey, when does Congress start today? When are you guys? Oh, we're starting at three today, they say. Three o'clock. OK, so what are they doing between now and three? Oh, they're traveling back and forth to and fro from home. They're twisting other people's arms for bills they want. They're whatever they're doing. But they're not interested in talking to me. And they start at three. And you go, OK, well, this is. Do you know how many days Congress works? On the average per year?

[00:20:47] 100, maybe. Do you know this? 100, maybe. I don't know. Yeah, it's like 130. Yeah, it was close. And it fluctuates depending on the year because sometimes they're in session a little bit more than others or whatever. But it's right around 130 days. Now, how many days do you work, George? Oh, man. Six, sometimes seven days nonstop for years, man. I'm tired. So just say six days. This Me Too movement's killing me, man. Just say six days.

[00:21:15] Catching checks, it's hard work, man. So six days a week, though? Think about that. How many days is that a year? Too many. I mean, really, when you get to it, George and I, when it comes to our portion of the business, we talk every day, 365 days a year, even at Christmas. We don't necessarily work on Christmas. But the truth of the matter is we're constantly working. I mean, our day starts at 5, 6, 7 in the morning at the latest ever.

[00:21:42] Even if you're very conservative and say six days a week minus two weeks for, say, a Christmas, even at a conservative number, our numbers are 300 days or something like that. You're almost working. It's over double what Congress puts in. Yeah. And you get paid, you know, I don't know how much you get paid. Wait a minute. Half the salary at best? Hold on. Well, most people work a nine-to-fiver, right? For me, I'm working during the day and I got other jobs at night or weekends, too.

[00:22:12] So I'm over 365 days working in reality, if you want to think about it. Because if you want to go by a day, an eight-hour day, hmm. Yeah, that's true. If you count an eight, ten-hour day, we're way past that. And it's true. Let's talk about their day. Hold on. I've been doing this for years. Think about the performance of it. Yeah. I've been like this for years. I'm talking like. I have, too. Well over 20 years, 30 years. Yeah. And to be able to perform with a part-time workload like Congress takes on.

[00:22:42] They're part-time. You can't accomplish that job. They're supposed to be our finest and best. Tell me how they can perform that job at any high level. Well, they need the finest and best. So think about the days they put in. The 130 days. You might put in a 15-hour day. These clowns literally, you know, I mean, I don't know how many hours they really put in. Because it depends on what you define as work, right? If I'm twisting somebody's arm to go against Trump, does that work? To me, that's kind of, you know, problematic. Hey, Lance. Yeah, sir.

[00:23:12] Lance. We need to tell Sam we need a raise. Yeah. Yeah, man. You guys are already casting checks. No, no. But you know what? My point is this. If you think about it, really, it's amazing. I mean, you know, again, when it comes to creating these shows in general, it is a full-time job. Just because you're only on the radio for an hour or on your podcast show for an hour. There are hours and hours and hours of research and organization. You mean we actually prepare for this stuff? Yeah, yeah.

[00:23:42] We don't just wing it. Yeah, we just come on and we just guess it. That would make us Congress. We'd have to call the show the radio Congress show. That's how we have media and stories and a whole discussion point and a lot of talking points because we do work hard, ladies and gentlemen. And that's really the key. And I'm just telling you right now, I think Congress is intentionally shutting down everything Trump can possibly. So are the courts, by the way. We, the people, should absolutely be livid. Next election, fire all 435 of them.

[00:24:11] That's my opinion. When we come back, I want to talk about the IRS because they're going to be dealing with migrants now. The IRS to give ICE information on immigrants' tax data, helping them round up illegals. The agreement's a major departure from what they used to have. We'll talk about this in seconds. George Ballantyne, Lance Migliaccio, yours truly continue in seconds. The Big Mig Brothers on Liberty Roundtable Live.

[00:24:59] News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Rich Thomason. The U.S. and China have been trading insults as their tariff dispute deepens. As of this morning, a 104% U.S. levy on Chinese imports is in effect. And tomorrow, China says it will boost tariffs on U.S. imports to 84%. That's a 50% increase. President Trump says China should make a deal with the U.S. We're doing very well in making, I call them tailored deals, not off the rack.

[00:25:29] These are tailored, highly tailored deals. Right now, Japan is flying here to make a deal. South Korea is flying here to make a deal. And others are flying here. Mr. Trump says China should join them. The IRS has agreed to share taxpayer data with Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The goal, to speed the deportation of illegal aliens. The IRS acting commissioner resigning in protest.

[00:25:53] President says it's time to put King Cole back on the throne, pushing for a revival of America's coal industry. The value of untapped coal in our country is 100 times greater than the value of all the gold at Fort Knox. And we're going to unleash it and make America rich and powerful again. Mr. Trump has signed an executive order that, among other things, loosens some environmental rules that have discouraged the use of coal,

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[00:30:41] So these discussions are great. President Trump wasn't joking. He wants to get rid of the income tax. He didn't outright say it, but he did lead with an example saying, hey, let's have the terrorists pay for, you know, taxes, not the American people. I wish it could get a little more blunt, a little more bold, but I agree with Lance. He's kind of charting out where he's headed. But here's my problem. The IRS, now they're wanting to use the IRS for a completely different purpose.

[00:31:07] IRS will give migrant data to ICE officials, New York Times. The agreement is a major departure from their previous stance, encouraging migrants to file their taxes, saying, hey, don't worry. It won't really be a problem. You know, there's not a connection between the IRS and taxes and immigration services or deportations. And well, now there is or now there's going to be if Donald has his way. And I support this, by the way.

[00:31:38] What I find interesting about it, though, is this. If you have the IRS doing this, it'll be harder to get rid of the IRS. Right. Because it's like, oh, no, man, they're helping with deportation. By golly, got to keep them. We have all these conflicting issues all the time. And I compare it to the education department. You know, Trump says, let's get rid of it. Congress has promised to get rid of it forever. Like my whole lifetime, almost my whole adult lifetime anyway. OK, right since it began, we've been trying to get rid of it.

[00:32:07] Well, what happens is you get these people. Let's just talk sex ed for a second. I know it sounds way off topic, but the ramifications are similar. The sex ed people are like, no, let's get rid of sex ed. You know what? The government shouldn't be teaching sex education at all. And then what happens is the abstinence only people go, well, if we're going to have money for sex ed, give the abstinence only people a piece of that money. Fine. They got a little stick of the money now. 10%, whatever the number be.

[00:32:33] Now we're going to promote sex education, but, you know, the abstinence only people have 10%. Now they're going to clamor to keep the sex ed rolling because they got a 10% stipend rolling in now. And what their goal is to say, give us 15% instead or 20% instead. But now you have the people that would be against sex ed now are on board. See? And that's what we see. And so I appreciate that Trump wants to get rid of the IRS. I think he does.

[00:33:01] I support him in that effort, but I believe Congress is undermining him. They're not even getting rid of the education department. They're not even voting on anything like that at all. And now the IRS is in the mix. And if it gets used for deportations, I mean, I support the effort turning over the info. But if you're not very careful, it'll be another reason to keep the IRS around. George? Wow. Listen. I'm a little lost. Like, it's too much going on. Too much BS. I mean.

[00:33:31] You got that right. I just want every... Can't we just have everything go away? Lance, can we? Yeah. I wish. I mean, I'd be for just abolishing 90% of the government and being done with it. Next. I mean, we don't need IRS. Why do we? I agree. Let's face it. But look, even if I say the sun rises in the morning, people will argue with me. No. Sam, you're wrong. It doesn't happen all the time. Sometimes it's cloudier. I think we've got to go back.

[00:34:00] I think we've got to go back to what the grand experiment was all about. I think the founders and framers had a plan for us. It was supposed to be a government of limited jurisdiction. It wasn't supposed to be this monstrous, encroaching Godzilla government that we have now. I agree with that. I think, you know, one thing I want to say about the IRS issue is I know that this isn't instantly solvable because we're much like a drug addict.

[00:34:24] The collecting of taxes, whether it's income tax, sales tax, death tax, capital gains tax, and the list goes on, property tax. You know, we put a system in place. We've allowed the Federal Reserve to use the IRS as a collection arm for that entity, and we've weaponized it against the American people. I don't think that's instantly fixable. You know, Trump's been in, what, for 90 days now, whatever it is. I don't even have a count now, but it's not very long.

[00:34:51] The assumption that we've got to have transparency from all these agencies to actually fix what's going on, I believe, is a necessary step. And I think you first have to have the transparency to collect the information, use the resources you have, use the staffing that's currently in place, even as inadequate as they are. And then we have to move forward on getting rid of those organizations and that staffing. You've seen the pushback from these activist judges, and I think we have some real core problems.

[00:35:18] I've talked about it many times in our show over on Rumble, the big main show on Rumble for anybody out there that knows that that's the main show that George and I have. And the problem we have is we have a judiciary that is so much part of the problem. You know, I've said it many times that when you, as a judge, when you enter the courtroom and you put on your robe, you have to hang up your political bias. And that's not what's happening. I mean, look at what happened in the Wisconsin election for the Supreme Court there.

[00:35:45] Nearly $90 million was spent to get a job that pays $186,000. So we're weaponizing our judiciary at a state level. We're weaponizing it at a federal level. We see how these judges are installed. And then they have lifetime appointments, right? And what I believe we're looking at here right now is when you talk about the IRS, I don't think that you can instantly turn that valve off or that switch off. It needs to be turned off. And should it be turned off? Absolutely. But I think first we have to get to some of these issues.

[00:36:15] And the problem we have right now is this immigration, this intentional deceit by the deep state to control our elections even further by creating this 30 million deep ghost voter pool of illegal immigrants. It's such a core problem that I understand why they're going about it. And I understand why they can't just turn off the IRS that quickly. So I think we're going to have to, you know, when you look at the census, long term gain is my take. Yeah, you're right.

[00:36:41] When you look at the census coming up, though, they're going to use that to appoint all kinds of extra House seats to the wrong states and the wrong groups of people based on because when they do the census, they don't say, well, we're going to stop the illegal. So that 20 million illegal group that Barack or I guess Joe Biden brought in, I was thinking Barack, too, to some degree. No, for sure. Barack also. This group that they brought in, they're going to change the electorate.

[00:37:08] They're going to, you know, many states are going to have more House seats and many states are going to lose House seats based on all that kind of stuff. I'm telling you right now, it's like a ticking time bomb coming up. Well, the redistricting is such a weapon. They've weaponized our system through redistricting. That's what the Wisconsin fight was all about. They wanted to redistrict to make sure that the Republicans lose alleged control. And I say alleged control of the House. And she publicly stated it in a Zoom meeting. Everybody was aware of it. They couldn't flip it.

[00:37:35] You know, the corrupted election system, George, and I'm going to defer to you. You and I have discussed this so many times that one of the big things that Congress should be doing and isn't doing anything about because they're all participants is our corrupted election system. The machines have to go. Well, without a doubt, the machines have to go. But let's I want to go back to some. So why is the IRS even have information on on illegal immigrants? Why they even have Social Security numbers? They shouldn't.

[00:38:04] Biden did that. Yeah. A lot of them. I know a different number. I can't remember what the number is called, but they use a different number instead of a Social Security number as well. EIN, isn't it? There's some other number. I'd have to look up. So but wait, so they're illegal immigrants who are not supposed to be here, but yet they get in these whatever numbers and they're able to work and pay taxes and do all that. Yeah, buddy. All right. But they're illegal. They're not supposed to. But then then then they can vote like Lance was just saying.

[00:38:34] Yeah, it's an I.T.I.N. number, by the way. I correct myself. It wasn't E.I.N. I got it. I.T.I.N. I.T.I.N. number. Yeah. Agreed. I knew it was a number. I couldn't remember the term. Individual taxpayer identification number. Yeah, they have those and they have driver's licenses and they drive and they vote and they do all these different things, George. Yeah. Well, deport them all. Yes. Is it illegal? Yeah, it's criminal. It's illegal. Of course it is. I mean, listen, it goes back to what Lance was just bringing up to you.

[00:39:03] Both of you guys are good points is our is our Congress. They just, you know, screw it. And I said this before. We just got a 1776. That's the only way we got to start over. Yeah, I agree. The question is how we can vote all four hundred thirty five of them out in twenty six if we want. You know, with the cheating and stuff, it's tough. It's tough. Yeah, but if we had a landslide, vote them all out and it was a landslide. They can't cheat to that level.

[00:39:33] Oh, no? No. You don't think so, huh? They did it in twenty twenty. Depends on what. I don't believe they did. They didn't. Congressional races. Twenty twenty. There wasn't an overwhelming. Support for a certain candidate to the degree that we're talking would be necessary. Listen, we will never be able to get anything done landslide or not until we get rid of the machines and fix our voting systems. Because, OK, you can have one can candidate landslide victory.

[00:40:02] But you're talking now you'd have to get rid of all these candidates and every candidate that we think is going to do right have landslide victories. That's that's tough. It's tough for sure. Yeah. We're in a tough situation because here's the deal. And Lance in the kind of around the world life that Lance knows quite a bit about. Hey, they don't obey the rules on their side, folks. We're stuck obeying the rules and they don't obey the rules, Lance.

[00:40:31] No, no, it's absolutely true. And I think that that's part of the what's been hidden from the American public. Our government is in many, many operations around the globe that would unsavory would be a kind way to describe it. A hundred and four percent tariffs on China. We'll talk about that coming up as well. Ladies and gentlemen, Lance Migliato, George Ballantyne. Yours truly continue in seconds on your radio.

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[00:43:08] Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen. 104% tariffs on China goes into effect. I don't even know how to respond to this. Here's the bottom line, gentlemen, for me. I support tariffs because I believe tariffs are the proper way to fund a limited government. My problem is I believe tariffs are being abused by the president. Tariffs are a congressional responsibility. I know they're shirking their duty. I get it. And I know President Trump's just doing his best to lead the best way he can. I get that, too.

[00:43:35] But at the same time, I say tariffs were never meant to be weaponized. We were never intended to have 104% tariffs on a country. And if you say, well, man, the Chinese are bad to us. We don't have a fair deal. That's right. But who entered that unfair deal? I mean, Ross Perot back in the 90s was telling you how horrible this would be. And everybody laughed and mocked him with his charts and everything else. 30 plus years later, he's dead on. Right. Right. But, you know, so what do we do? 104% tariffs on China? Is that going to be any good? Is that going to go anywhere?

[00:44:04] My prediction is if we're not, you know, Donald Trump is going to sit down somewhere with somebody and have an agreement and we're not going to have 104% tariffs on China. What do you think about this, George? George, I think we're starting to weaponize tariffs here, though, right? No, we're not. We're no. We're we're we're listen. I'd rather be in a tariff war than a military war any day. And it's about time that the United States steps up and balances this out because they've been taking advantage of us for so long. And it's been both sides of y'all letting this happen.

[00:44:34] Let's let's put this in perspective. There is no Democrat Republic. They both allowed this to happen. So you just said, oh, Congress is supposed to do it. Screw Congress. They ain't doing nothing. So let Trump do what he's doing. Hold on. Hold on. There's these things called checks and balances, George. There's a system. There's a lot of land. Hold on. The system is broken. What happened to checks and balances with 14 money magic computers? What happened to checks and balances with the 1500? Nobody. Nobody held Congress. What do they call them?

[00:45:03] Zombie programs. Zombie organizations. All right. So we ain't got time to wait for Congress. We need to get it done. Matter of fact, you know, what's his name? Oh, my God. Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank. He just said. No, Mark Cuban. A ball headed guy. The biggest one. I can't. They call him Mr. Wonderful. Geez. I can't remember his name. Oh, my God. Anyway, he just he was just on saying. Oh, Mark O'Leary. That's his name. O'Leary.

[00:45:33] So he's saying. Kevin O'Leary. Yeah. Kevin O'Leary. He's saying the U.S. should raise China's tariffs to 400 percent. He just said it on air. Yeah. What do you think? Hold on. Hold on. Wait, I'm not finished here. And, you know, Shark Tank, they're always like, well, sourcing their stuff out to China, China, China. Yeah. And here's a guy from Shark Tank saying, no, let's just leverage 400 percent tariffs. Enough's enough with China. We allowed their economy to prosper and look what they built.

[00:46:00] So now it's time to take it down because, look, you know, Secretary Besson, he said something. He goes, Wall Street has grown wealthier for four decades. For the next four years, it's Main Street's turn. And this is showing that Trump is, you know, they're not watching the stock market. Things are going to change. And he's, listen, he's got the maximum negotiating leverage right now. Who does? Trump. What do you mean? He's got. Where does he get that leverage from?

[00:46:29] He's talking about authority he doesn't have. Well, he doesn't have authority because we're doing. Well, you see it happening, don't you? You see it happen in 2017, right? Well, yeah, I see that he did some things. I mean, if you look, if you look from Congress, most of our trading partners have not escalated. And they're actually over 70 countries already coming to call in to want to make deals. They want to sit down with a Donald. I get it. Yeah.

[00:46:59] But what we don't understand is that one man is not supposed to dictate all tariff policy in the United States. Well, listen, you know, when you're saying, oh, Congress, you know what that reminds me of? No, no disrespect to anybody. All the idiots that said, oh, trust the plan. Trust the plan. Now, we ain't sitting back trusting the plan. What do you say, Lance? Because this is a big dilemma here. What do we do in America? Is Trump right or wrong on this? I think he's right in advocating for tariffs. I think he's right in doing these things, but he doesn't have the authority.

[00:47:28] Go read your constitution. He doesn't have the authority to do this stuff. You know, you know, when I sit back and, you know, and I understand what our constitution is supposed to be. I understand what our checks and balances system is supposed to be. But the problem is it hasn't been for a very, very long time that. I agree with that. And it doesn't matter whether we talk about this candidate, you know, this presidency or the presidency before the one before that or the one before that or the one before that.

[00:47:59] Congress has been an ineffective sham. It's the David Copperfield of, you know, of our government. You know, look over here while we do something over here. Here's the magic. This group will actively destroy us from within and they'll take the money and they'll cheat and lie. And then this group over here will stomp their feet, make a bunch of noise, hold a bunch of committees and hearings. So I think what we've done is we've kind of backed Donald Trump, which which right now lots of people are concerned he was going to be a lame duck president.

[00:48:28] He's already signed 111 executive orders. And I think that he's showing the leadership that's necessary as an individual that recognizes the destruction of our country from within. And let me let me go on here. So as much as I like the checks and balances system right now, the different branches of government aren't working. Our judiciary is absolutely weaponized. I'm not saying there aren't some good federal judges because there are some good federal judges.

[00:48:53] But there are there are many of them that clearly can't leave their political bias at the door. And they're willing to go along and be compromised by the money. You know, when you look at the trade deficit numbers, let's go back to trade deficit for a minute. We look at the trade deficit numbers. The reported numbers of China, you know, and in 2024 were almost three hundred billion dollars.

[00:49:15] And that doesn't include what China's done in elevating their imports in things that don't help the country from within, like the precursors for fentanyl, carfentanyl, methamphetamine. The things that they should have stopped early on. They know it's getting produced over there. They know they're working the cartels. But the truth of the matter is you go back to the Red Book of Mao, you know, destroy the country from all elements. This is part of their big, you know, you know, communist global plan.

[00:49:44] So to say that we're going to wait for Congress to do something, Congress hasn't done anything for so long. I believe that the majority of Congress, if we went through and we drug tested them, if we went through their finances, if we checked all their communication devices, I'd be surprised if we found 15 or 20 honest men and women. I agree 100 percent. But we need to do those things. So do you wait around? Hold on. I'm going to give you my conclusory statement here.

[00:50:09] Do you wait around when you know that maybe there's only, let's say there's 30 honest people out of the 435. Do you wait around for 405 criminals? 405 people that don't believe for government for the people or by the people, 405 people that likely never signed their oath of office so they don't feel like they're obligated to the Constitution and in fact have defective oath of office on file or no oath of office at all. So they're basically impersonating government officials.

[00:50:37] Do we wait around for those people to make good decisions for the American public? I say nay. I say no. I think that what Donald Trump is doing is necessary. Sometimes, you know, good men have to do bad things. At the end of the day, that's what it takes. And that's what our government has really done all over the globe for the longest time. I mean they used me for years to do things that probably weren't legal on any basis that had to do with anything that had to do with global law or the right or wrong or the morality. We've got a Congress that is fully compromised.

[00:51:07] And until we bring those people to their knees and they face the consequences for their actions, people like Donald Trump are going to have to continue to do what they're doing. Because if we didn't have Donald Trump right now, I can say this very clearly. Not electing Harris. People want to talk about race. They want to talk about religion. They want to talk about, oh, she was a black woman. It's not fair. We couldn't get her in. You know, the truth of the matter is that's not what it is. She was a moron. She was inadequate. I mean the IQ levels of Congress are at the lowest levels in history.

[00:51:37] These people, I guarantee you, have the IQs, you know, of sub of 70 or 80. They don't even know what the Constitution says. They probably never read it. Until that's fixed, we're going to be stuck. And thank God we have Donald Trump. Thank God he's in hand. Hold on. Let me add something that's coming out today. You know, in a market, you're saying everybody's talking recession, right? In a market that is pricing in a recession, bond prices should be rising and yields should be falling.

[00:52:02] But actually, we're seeing the exact opposite, which is like it's been so fast it's been happening. This is like a move in decades. It hasn't happened this fast. Well, part of that could be because the Chinese are dumping all their U.S. treasuries right now. No, the bond market just broke. The 10-year note surged 60 basis points while the S&P fell, like 8%. That's the largest three-day increase since, I think, 1982.

[00:52:33] So, you know, something's going on. The 10-year yield notes surged another 25 basis points. 30 yield jumped up 5%. And even they're saying the stock market futures collapse? That brings up a whole fundamental question. You know, we want to believe that we've got to make the stock market good. I don't know what percent of the American people are in the stock market now, but for most of our country's existence, even when the stock market was around. 51%? 51% of the American public is in the stock market now.

[00:53:03] All right. And what was it, say, 50 years ago? The highest at levels. A couple of years back, it was 50%. So the number's actually rising. Right. But my point is that, hey, 50 years ago, the number was tiny. Yeah. I think if you went back, if you go back 50 years, I think we're probably looking at 20s, high 20s maybe. At best, yeah. So all I'm saying is that we've pushed people into the stock market more and more. We've pushed people to say you've got to buy and sell and spend and get and buy and sell and spend and get.

[00:53:32] And I guess my response is, why does our economy have to keep getting bigger? Why do we always have to have more and do more and spend more? Or if the American people quit spending and save a little bit of money, we say that's a bad thing because, man, it'll taint the economy. I don't even know that we need the economic output. The only reason we need that is because of the Federal Reserve and the Ponzi scheme. You can't exist unless you grow the pie, grow the pie, grow the pie. Or at some point, it fails. That's a Ponzi scheme. Anyway, when we get back, we can talk about this a little bit more.

[00:54:01] And when you called this guy, what did you call him, an idiot or an imbecile? What did you call this guy? Rich guy. Let's see. Who was it you were saying? He's an idiot, Lance? I'm not sure, Sam. I don't know. All right. Anyway, Elon Musk is now calling people morons. Oh, yeah. You called him a moron. Anyway, Elon Musk is calling Peter Navarro a moron. We'll dig into that, too. It's over the tariff discussion.

[00:54:30] And we'll go from there. Kind of interesting twist. Who's on whose side? Who? Don't know. Sam Jettison, that sucker. We don't have time. It's too late. We all agree on the problem. The question left is what is the remedy?