Radio Show Hour 1 – 02/19/2025
Liberty Roundtable PodcastFebruary 19, 20250:54:5025.1 MB

Radio Show Hour 1 – 02/19/2025

* Guest: James Edwards - Race, Politics & Hypocrisy in 21st Century America - thepoliticalcesspool.org

* Who's in charge of DOGE?

* Surprise! DOGE is not new, it's actually a government entity created by a Democrat president! - WND.com

* What is DOGE, exactly? - Trump didn't create a new Cabinet-level department with DOGE, but rather renamed the previously existing United States Digital Service, which was created under Barack Obama.

* DOGE finds Treasury spent up to $4.7T in untraceable payments!

* There Are Good Reasons for DOGE to Audit Gold Reserves at Fort Knox - Just Ask These Senators - Leah Barkoukis, Townhall.com

The Department of Government Efficiency has saved taxpayers an estimated $55B through their work so far, and they have asked for the public’s help in identifying where more waste, fraud, and abuse can be identified.

* As Media Freaks Over 1 DOGE Employee Getting IRS Access, We Learn Biden Gave 919 People Access - WesternJournal.com

* Trump is cutting thousands of IRS employees. This comes a single day after Elon Musk announced DOGE had begun their audit of the IRS!

* New York Paid $206 Million to Settle Misconduct Suits, the Most Since 2018 - Chelsia Rose Marcius.

It accounts for 27% of the $756 million the city has paid in such lawsuits over the past seven years, according to data released by the Legal Aid Society.

* The Trump administration is using a covert drone program to hunt down fentanyl laboratories in Mexico, the latest in the White House's effort to combat the flow of illicit drugs into the United States - NYT.

On his first day back in office, the president signed an executive order designating drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations (FTOs), a label that allows U.S. authorities more capabilities to better combat these international criminal syndicates.

* KFC to move corporate headquarters from Kentucky to Texas - UPI.com

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans, Sam Bushman, live on your radio. Hard-hitting news the networks refuse to use, no doubt, starts now. This, my fellow Americans, is the broadcast for February the 19th in the year of our Lord, 2025.

[00:00:39] The goal always is to protect life, liberty, and property, to promote God, family, and country, to do so in the traditions of our founding fathers. We use the checks and balances brilliantly put in place by the founding fathers in the supreme law of the land, the Constitution for the United States of America, as our guide. We reject revolution unless it's Jesus' revolution, then we're in, because we follow the Prince of Peace. Without further ado, James Edwards, thepoliticalcesspool.org, well-known talk show host, author, and more.

[00:01:07] Race, politics, and hypocrisy in the 21st century. We're talking about it all on your radio. Welcome to the show, James. You know, Sam, the way the Wednesdays fell the last couple of weeks, it's actually been three weeks since I was last with you, appearing, well, I guess it's only been two. You know what? It doesn't even matter. It's only been two weeks, but it seems like it's been a year, because we're drinking news out of a fire hydrant these days.

[00:01:31] It just seems like every day brings dozens and dozens and dozens of things that we would normally put into a program for discussion, and you just can hardly keep up with it all. It has been breakneck. It has been a really fast start to the year, and it's great to be back with you today. There's a baseball player. I can't remember his name right this very second. He's a great guy. At least he used to be a great guy. I think he's kind of made some mistakes lately.

[00:01:59] But anyway, he's a Mormon, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The reason I bring him up is because he coined a great term, and I'm going to tell you about it. But right after he won a game, they're like, hey, are you going to have a good time and celebrate your win by drinking some beers and going to the bar? And they know he's a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a Mormon, and they know people don't drink that are Mormons, right? Anyway, so he looks at him and he goes, that's a clown question, bro.

[00:02:27] So he literally mocked them back pretty good because they were trying to get under his skin and be a little bit rude because of his religious, you know, and he just mocked them. That's a clown question, bro. What are you talking about? Well, I think the mainstream press is into asking clown questions, bro. And I mention that a lot of times, and I've used that term ever since I heard it. His name is Bryce. I can't remember his last name. Bryce. So anyway, but the long story short is this, though. Who's in charge of Doge? That's what all the Democrats are asking.

[00:02:57] They're melting down. They're just, you know, trying to freak out and trying to figure out how to deal with this. And they're asking this question. And we're going to get into the details, and you'll realize why it's a clown question in the first place. But do you know who's in charge of Doge there, James? I don't know exactly, and I don't care as long as they keep doing what they've been doing. And by the way, that question could have certainly been asked of the presidency over the last four years as well.

[00:03:26] You're right about that. But I just find it interesting that people don't know who runs Doge. So let me just be clear to the Democrats and even to James, who doesn't know. Who runs Doge or who is in charge of Doge? Oh, the guy's name is Bryce Harper. Anyway, just to run it to ground. I don't like left loose ends around, you know. Anyway, Bryce Harper was the guy's name, and he came up with that clown question, bro.

[00:03:56] Look, Doge is an organization. And if you're going to be intelligent, instead of just go, oh, my gosh, I hate Donald. Who's in charge of Doge? And then people answer the question. They're like, well, President Trump is in charge of Doge. No, doesn't Elan? Isn't Elan? Doesn't? What? What? The president's in charge of Doge. No, listen. Hold on. Do you know who makes the decisions at Doge? I mean, these clown reporters, these female, I don't even know if you call them news babes these days. I mean, they're just clowns.

[00:04:26] Okay. No, listen. James, Senator James Edwards. No, I know you're not a senator, but this is how it is. Who runs Doge? Who's in charge of Doge? The president of the United States. I know, but doesn't Elan Musk make decisions? Well, kind of. I mean, if you want to look at it that way, you know, you got all these different departments and different people lead these departments and they make decisions, but only under the direction of the president. Okay. Who at Doge is the one firing people and hiring people? And well, let me say this again.

[00:04:54] The president runs Doge, but, you know, people carry out in all government departments the will of the president and the executive branch. See, the executive branch is designed to execute the laws on the books. And I know, but Senator James, who is the guy that decides everything at Doge? Okay. Haven't we been over this 3,000 times, you idiot childs? I don't mean to be offensive. I'm just saying I can't take it anymore. Listen to me carefully. And are you ready? You ready for it, James?

[00:05:24] I'm ready. All right. Surprise. Doge is not even new. Did you know that, James? That sounds like a trick question in some way. No, it's not a trick question. It's not new. You've just been deceived. That's all. It's actually a government entity, ladies and gentlemen. And it was created by a Democrat president. Did you know that? Yeah. Barack Obama created the first version of Doge. What is Doge exactly, you might say?

[00:05:52] Trump didn't create a new cabinet position at all. Okay. It's not a cabinet level department at all with Doge. Rather, he simply renamed the previously existing United States. It's called the Digital Service. United States Digital Service, which was created under former President Barack Obama. Did you know that, James?

[00:06:19] I must not have heard about it because they must not have been doing very much if it was about it. Well, they were doing plenty. They were just simply involved in the Obamacare. And it was designed to be kind of the digital whatever to help the Obamacare website, which was failing back in the day. And he put this thing all together for that purpose. It was a government entity created by Democratic President Joe Biden. I mean, I'm sorry, Barack Obama. Okay. So Trump didn't create a new – when it was the Digital Service, who controlled it, James? Can I help you with that?

[00:06:49] Who controlled it then? Help me. Barack Obama. Yeah. So what you've got to understand is just because Trump changed the name, that doesn't change the reality that the president created it as an executive branch support to him. He has every right to put together and appoint people and put people in positions to carry out what he wants. And Barack did it, and the Democrats didn't complain.

[00:07:13] And so what you need to do if you're a reporter, instead of asking clown questions, you need to go research it a little bit and get a little bit of mojo into your knowledge and say, hey, Barack created it, and when he did, no one questioned it, no one – and it was fine, and it served at the behest of the president, just like Doge is doing. The only difference is that Donald renamed it, gave it a little bit more mojo and a lot of focus. Well, I'd say a lot more mojo. Well, we'll see. I mean, I appreciate that, and it sounds great. We'll see.

[00:07:42] They talk big, but we'll see. Let me give you the example to make the point. Ready? Who's in charge? You can replace the word 66 ways from Sunday. The answer is Barack created it, Barack ran it, and Barack was in charge of it. Then Biden was in charge of it. It was so clown show he couldn't do anything. And then Trump basically renamed it and gave it mojo. And we're going to find out about the mojo.

[00:08:12] Okay? Doge finds that the Treasury spent up to $4.7 trillion, James, in, quote, untraceable payments. So you find $4.7 trillion in untraceable payments. You've got two choices. Either find the money or put people in jail. Because if you can't find the money, that means it's been stolen.

[00:08:42] Is that right, James? Or am I just kind of not thinking right? So you're on to something here, and this branches out to several different directions. But finish what you've got to say, and I'll take it. $4.7 trillion of untraceable money. Now, see, I don't call it untraceable. When you go into your store, and let's say that window's been smashed, and then you go look in your cash register and the money's gone. You don't go, hey, we've got some untraceable funds over here. You go, wait a minute, somebody stole the money.

[00:09:08] And so if you have $4.7 trillion, Doge, of what you call untraceable payments, then what you've got is somebody gamed the system. Somebody stole from the treasury. Or the treasury somehow stole from itself. Or whoever was running the treasury stole. Okay, you can't just say it's, we can't trace the expenditures.

[00:09:33] Because either you can trace them and you know where they went, or you have to say the money was stolen. It's kind of like the armored car that drives down the road, and it leaves bank A, and it gets to bank B, and the money's gone, and they're like, well, got some untraceable currency, James. Don't know what happened there. Hey, you know that somehow between A and B banks, somebody stole it. So if you can't trace, if somebody's done whatever they need to do to make it to where you can't trace that money, then they've stolen the money.

[00:10:00] So my only question left, if they've got as much mojo as we think, James, when are people going to prison? And if they don't, is there really accountability, and does Doge really have mojo? That's the question, James. Well, I don't know about going to prison. Certainly they should. We'll see. I mean, being banished to the wilderness is sort of like that in a way, I guess.

[00:10:25] But I can tell you this, there's a lot of bureaucrats in D.C. that are basically catatonic right now because of what's happening. I mean, this is nothing like 2017. It's almost like an apocalypse, really. And for them it is. I mean, listen to some of these numbers, Sam. Since Doge began discussing mass layoffs, the median home price, I know you've dealt in real estate before and financing. Listen to this.

[00:10:51] The median home price in D.C. has fallen by $139,000 in less than 30 days. So nearly 4,000 homes have been listed for sale in and around D.C. because all these bureaucrats are gone. So roughly 275,000 federal workforce workers, bureaucrats, have lost their jobs. All right, so let me stop you there right now. And everybody went after Donald Trump saying he propped up the price of his whatevers, and therefore we've got to look at his IRS taxes,

[00:11:19] and we've got to look into this and that because he propped up all the prices of things and pretended things were greater value than they were or not. But where's all the D.C. rats going to go now when we've proven their price, you know, their home price values and everything else were nothing but fate? Well, this is an example. That's a good question. But this is an example of draining the swamp, totally different than the first term. There's a lot of reasons for that. But it's actually happening this time.

[00:11:43] You're talking about 10% of the federal workforce are without employment since January the 20th. That's a month ago almost to the day. Now, 75,000 took the buyout. All right, so that's a smaller number. But another roughly 200,000 were probationary workers who have been let go. So this is a bloodbath. And a lot of the people that are being let go were just embedded.

[00:12:12] These were jobs, fake jobs, people embedded into these lavishly paid positions in D.C. On this diversity and anti-racism grift that the Obama and Biden administrations created to reward progressive activists with, again, these fake jobs in Washington like, you know, second in command of diversity for this agency or D.E.I. I mean, it was all this stuff, basically.

[00:12:38] We're just looking at people and making sure that, you know, they're not white or, you know, straight or male and that they're getting in there. All these people are going. There's a lot of jobs like that that don't exist anymore. So all of this is good. And it's saving the taxpayer money. It is great news. And so I don't mean to down doge or down what President Trump has done. I think President Trump has done a marvelous job in most ways since he took office. And I'll be the first one to say I am delighted and surprised. Surprised. Yeah. Okay.

[00:13:08] In a good way. But when you find out things about like that doge, we think it's this new agency. We find out it's nothing but a Barack Obama creation. Well, first off, Barack can't create new government agencies. Neither can Trump, really, if you want to go look at the Constitution. It would be a change in the law. And that's a congressional discussion. Well, strangely enough, President Trump's done a wonderful job. But Congress has not been backing the president. They should be passing piecemeal line up and down vote issues backing President Trump's moves on these things so that they become permanent.

[00:13:37] What you get if the president just rules by executive order is the next president just overrules by executive order and so on and so on and so on. Well, here's the reason this $4.7 trillion is so critical. Number one, we've lost it. We just simply claim that, golly, man, they spent up to $4.7 trillion in untraceable payments. Well, the next headline is very fascinating in relation there, too. So I reject all the fiat fake money they create and say it's criminal and unconstitutional.

[00:14:01] But there are good reasons for Doge to audit gold reserves at Fort Knox. And believe it or not, two senators are pushing for this very thing. Okay? You've got townhall.com. Leah, I don't know how to say her name, Marketease or whatever, writes the article. And basically you've got Senator Mike Lee, my senator, by the way, and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky both pushing, saying, hey, Doge has got to get into Fort Knox.

[00:14:31] And audit that sucker. I could not agree more, James. This, again, you only have two hours a day. I only have three hours a week to try to keep up with all of this. What stories do you focus on? I saw this, though, yesterday. My eyes perked up. I mean, what an idea. Elon Musk is basically questioning, is the gold even still in the vault? He wants to this idea for 30 years on the radio, buddy.

[00:14:55] It's just so crazy what ideas are coming out and getting focused on at the highest level. Elon Musk is saying he wants to go in there wearing a GoPro and live stream his tour of the vault or, you know, whoever gets to go in there. Amen, put that sucker on X. And if Mark Zuckerberg, even though I think he's a clown, wants to join so it can be live on Facebook and Instagram and all that kind of stuff, by all means, put it on Truth Social. You know, let it rip on every channel everywhere all the time until we're done.

[00:15:24] I think I read while taking a look at one of these articles about that topic yesterday that the last time that vault was open was in the 1970s. I guess they even go in there and dust the gold off. So that's pretty amazing to even fathom. I mean, it's just, I guess, sitting there. Nobody opens the door. Or do they? I mean, let's find out. Yeah. Why not? Look, if we're going to clean house and go up and down everything, let's take a look at everything. Amen. So anyway, to me, that's tremendous.

[00:15:53] So if they find out where that 4.7 trill went and then they edit Fort Knox, audit Fort Knox and find it. Look, heads need to roll somewhere, James. Well, you know, they're going in. Just go, oh, the money or I'm sorry, the gold's not really in Fort Knox or the numbers aren't what we were told. And we lost $4.7 trillion. At some point, somebody's got to be accountable somewhere, James. Well, look at this. Here's this is, again, related to everything we've been talking about so far.

[00:16:22] This is from the Washington Post. And by the way, I mean, it's just so delicious to see the media just be totally treated with scorn and disrespect. I saw where I think it was the New York Times. It was one of these big ones that got banned from – no, it was the Associated Press. Excuse me. They got banned from being able to ask Trump questions or have access because they didn't rename – Yeah, because they lied and they lie and they manipulate stories and they wouldn't go along with his renaming of – Gulf of America.

[00:16:52] And I say this. I don't know that I'd really kick a reporter out for that. What people don't understand is that's just the tip of the iceberg. It's for other reasons that really he's doing that. Exactly. Sam, you're spot on. In fact, he sort of alluded to that at the end of the article. He said they've never done me any favors, so I'm not going to do them any favors. That's kind of the way the world works. So I think it was about all of it. They were using this as sort of the example they're going to hang their hat on. But it's really just because – I mean, they're awful.

[00:17:19] All of these establishment legacy news media outlets are awful. They've always been anti-Trump. Why should they have access? But this is the Washington Post. So I just love seeing this, but I'm reading from the Washington Post. They're forced to report it, and good for that. They say the Department of Government Efficiency has saved taxpayers an estimated $55 billion due to their work so far in one month. That's right.

[00:17:46] And they then are asking the public, James, to help identify where more waste, fraud, and abuse can be identified. And that's how these senators kind of came and said, hey, man, let's go ahead and audit Fort Knox, and let's get to the bottom of that and everything else. Do you have any other ideas for them, James? Well, you know, they've already said, Sam, and you've probably seen this, that they're going to audit the IRS. Bring it. And they're laying on – But see, I appreciate auditing, and I appreciate the mojo,

[00:18:16] and I appreciate that's where you maybe need to start. But until I see literal whole government agencies shut down, I'm still not impressed, James. It's great talk. But at the end of the day, and you look at it, and after Trump served first term, hey, everything you did got reversed, literally everything. And so, again, unless Congress comes to the table here, there's checks and balances in the United States of America's proper role of government for a reason.

[00:18:46] And at some point, if you're going to make something stick, it's got to be legislated into reality. And if it isn't, it will be overturned. Write it down, and remember who warned you first. That is true. But right now, and of course, things can and will change. Right now, it looks like the Democrats are going to be regulated to being a coastal regional party. I don't know if they're – right now, it doesn't even seem like they exist. But I want to say one more thing about Doge. This is the Washington Post I was trying to get to.

[00:19:14] A team of workers – and it is going to continue and ratchet up, Sam. Now, if it goes to the last full measure where entire organizations are shut down, agencies are shut down, as I agree with you, they should be, maybe even people put into prison. But in the meantime, we're only a few weeks into this, and here's the latest. A team of workers from the U.S. Doge service developed a step-by-step plan for carrying out Donald Trump's order to purge diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives from the federal government. Okay, whose order? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Whose order? The President Donald Trump's order.

[00:19:42] Yeah, so that's who leads, runs, makes decisions, whatever words you want to replace. Doge, okay, just so people understand. Go ahead. And even if somebody else is technically put in charge under his authority, they are still working and carrying out his wishes. Of course they are. That's how departments run. And it says that over the next six months – so this is a future forecast, so we know what's been going on the first month. Over the next six months, Doge intends to expand that campaign dramatically.

[00:20:12] According to documents obtained by the Washington Post, Doge aims to target staffers who are not in DEI roles and employees who work in offices established by law to ensure equal rights documents show. In the coming weeks, the Trump administration plans to trim staff from dozens of offices across the executive branch, including those – well, it goes on to talk about diversity. And in the first days of 2025, a subgroup of the Doge began sketching out

[00:20:41] how to implement a government-wide elimination of DEI employment programs, et cetera, et cetera. But, yes, again, so they are planning to ratchet it up. What you've seen the first month – I hope they do. Bring it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. I mean, they have let go a lot of IRS agents right before tax season begins. Yeah. And so that's interesting. And so my question is, when is Donald just going to release that he's going to abolish the IRS? Tariffs will replace it. And we don't have this judge, jury, and executioner against the people.

[00:21:11] Completely unconstitutional. I was hoping that he might do it before April the 15th so we don't even have to file this year, James. Oh, man, wouldn't that be something? But I'll tell you this. Let's go, okay? I'll tell you this. I mean, the amount of things that have happened are incredible. Dizzying isn't even the right – where there isn't even a word for this much stuff to have happened this fast and it'd all be such radical change. I agree. Showshawk, dizzying, whatever words you want to use. It gets even worse, though, because they're exposing the Democrats at every turn.

[00:21:37] Everything the Democrats bring up literally just gets brought to reality. I'll give you another example relating to Doge. As the media freaks over one person getting access to the IRS, we learn Biden gave 919 people access. Westernjournal.com, James.

[00:22:02] So while they're freaking that Doge is giving one or two or three capable workers from Elon Musk or whatever, hey, one worker is getting IRS access for a little bit to report on everything. Well, hey, man, Biden gave 919 people access, James. Exactly. Sam, I wanted to say that because this is, again, one of these things that the media is feigning their hysteria over that Elon Musk,

[00:22:30] who, you know, call him in charge or de facto or whatever. I mean, obviously he's involved in these Doge initiatives that he might – I don't care. Hold on. It's like every other department, James. You have a head that carries out the orders of the president and the executive branch. And you can say, well, can he do this? Can he do that? You don't ask that about every other department. You say, well, Doge isn't a government department. Yes, it is. Barack started it. It's just the name's been changed and the details are slightly different. But it's the same apparatus as the Democrats created. What do they mean who's in charge?

[00:23:00] Well, and they're acting like it's going to be such a violation of privacy if Elon Musk, who is basically in charge of this organization in some way, sees your tax returns. I don't care if Elon sees my tax returns. I have no idea how many left-wing government bureaucrats have seen my tax returns. I hope he sees money and gets so limited he abolishes the whole organization. Let's go. Well, here we go. Just before the break, a quick, quick hit just to crystallize all this that's going on with the IRS. I've got this breaking news headline here.

[00:23:27] Here, President Trump is cutting thousands of IRS employees per the New York Times. This comes just a single day after Elon Musk announced that. Yeah, email me that headline, and this is what we need to see. But they hired 87,000 employees under Joe. And so I don't know how many they're getting rid of, but we might just be before the Joe abuse days, right? Well, I mean, we don't know that yet, but this comes just a single day after Elon Musk announced Doge had begun its audit of the IRS. And then here again, Doge officials have entered the IRS building in D.C. to begin their investigation.

[00:23:58] It all started with a Twitter poll that Elon Musk likes to do. Would you like Doge to audit the IRS? Hang on. Let's come back and talk about this in detail because this is worth it. All right. This is great stuff. Hard-hitting talk, ladies and gentlemen. Doge. Barack Obama created it. Donald just changed the name and gave it some mojo. Hang tight. You're listening to the one and only hard-hitting news the networks refuse to use called Liberty. Roundtable Live. Corruption.

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[00:25:45] Elon Musk, the man President Trump put in charge of his Department of Government Efficiency, says the work of the so-called Doge panel is crucial to the future of America. The overall goal is to try to get a trillion dollars out of the deficit. And if the deficit is not brought under control, America will go bankrupt. This is a very important thing for people to understand. Musk and the President sat for an interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity. Musk says that not only can individuals go bankrupt, nations can as well.

[00:26:14] President Trump says that Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare not targeted for cuts beyond ferreting out fraud and abuse. After all of the aid, the U.S. supplied Ukraine, signs that relations between the two countries may be going south somewhat. Ukrainian President Zelenskyy suggesting that President Trump is buying into Russian propaganda, adding that he would like the Trump team to be more truthful. More measles cases diagnosed in West Texas.

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[00:30:18] You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Well, welcome back to Liberty Roundtable Live, everybody. Sam Bushman giving yours truly, James Edwards, the honor of bringing you back from break. And we were talking about the situation going on vis-a-vis Doge and the IRS.

[00:30:43] And what I love about just the moxie and the aggressiveness of what's going on is it just demonstrates a will to power. Trump was elected with a mandate to do things like this, and entirely unlike the first time, he is doing it and with great efficiency and relish. So Doge obviously is a centerpiece of everything that's going on in the still new Trump administration.

[00:31:12] And what we were talking about before the break was the fact that, and I love this too, it's comical, but it's also, I think, terrifying to the establishment. Elon Musk on X ran a poll a few days ago. Would you like Doge to audit the IRS? And, you know, I don't know if he made his decision based on the poll results. Maybe he did. He has had a past of doing that.

[00:31:40] Obviously, his followers on Twitter overwhelmingly voted yes for Doge to audit the IRS. And that's good, but even to, I mean, I get that you ask the question to start buzzing the media, and if that's his intent, that's great. But again, it's kind of a clown question, though. Who wouldn't want to audit the IRS? Who wouldn't want to audit and go look at Fort Knox? I can think of a few. Who wouldn't want to? Okay, anybody in their right mind would want to audit and have accountability for these organizations and want to promote transparency. And if anybody doesn't want that, you've got to wonder, what's their agenda? Well, that's right.

[00:32:10] And so what happened was the poll came back, yes, do it. Musk immediately announced that he was doing it. And then immediately after that, Trump cut thousands of IRS employees just a single day after Elon Musk announced that Doge had begun their audit of the IRS. This was done, at least apparently, because of the results of this poll. And then now you have the breaking news story.

[00:32:35] Doge officials have entered the IRS building in D.C. to begin their investigation into the agency. I cannot wait to see. I mean, you had this almost terroristic organization in some ways, the IRS, who just, you never know when you're going to run afoul, if it's going to be a politically motivated. And by the way, that's even if you try to comply, James. Exactly. Of course. Yes. You're doing your very dangness to do what's right, and that doesn't protect you at all.

[00:33:03] And I can guarantee you that an organization like that, that thought that they would always have this unlimited power and that they would never, you know, have to worry about, I don't know if I want to use the word bullied, but they would never have to be held accountable. I would be, I'm going to be fascinated to find out what this audit uncovers to see how honest they've been in their dealings. And anyway, we'll find out, but nevertheless, let's just say they were all on the up and up. Hard to believe, but let's just say so.

[00:33:31] Well, it still doesn't hurt for them to be audited. Well, there you go. Truth be known. I agree. And I think that people are delighted to see this. And I hope, I really hope that we can get to the truth. And part of the problem is the spin. And there's spin from all sides of the aisle by everybody.

[00:33:53] But believe it or not, whenever there's spin against Trump, I find that when you dig into it later, you find out that Trump was more correct, more right, more accurate than they admit. And that's really a key. So here's the headline. Hey, yes, Obama deported more people than Trump. But context is everything. That's a CNN article, right? Right?

[00:34:21] So you got to understand and ask yourself, what does that all mean? How does that work? Trump's immigration cracked down by the numbers, deportations, arrests, et cetera. Well, here's the deal. They want you to believe that, oh, Trump hasn't made a lot of progress in this. He hasn't really deported more people than, say, Obama or Bush or whoever. But when we say context is everything, the CNN article goes a completely different direction.

[00:34:49] It kind of makes it sound like Trump's just a nutcase. The truth is this. People are freaking out all over the country because of what Tom Holman and Donald Trump are doing with regards to deportations. So you can play games in the media and act like it's, oh, no big deal, and this and that, and create all the nuances. You can make anything you want, or you can make anything with statistics turn out the way you want it to be. But at the end of the day, you know that he's having an effect because people are freaking out everywhere, James. It's totally different.

[00:35:19] I mean, I don't even know how you can compare it. Obama was in office for eight years, and Trump has been back for a month. And you can say, well, he had the first administration. And, of course, you know, the first administration was totally different than this for any number of reasons, not the least of which being he walked into a still very much neocon Republican establishment, whereas now the entire party has been completely remade in his image, whatever that may be.

[00:35:45] And he has an ability to get things done now that he could not do in the first term with all of the indictments and all of the impeachments and everything else that he was up against. And so I'll give him the – look, I just think – I mean, whether you give him the benefit of the doubt on that or not, let's just – let's just – I think for the purposes of commentary and discussion, the only way you can move forward with forming opinions is to judge Trump what he has done since January 20th of this year.

[00:36:14] We know everything that happened the first four years has been litigated. Let's give him a blank slate and say this is a different Trump argument. He has been under him in the first administration, and he had never been in government before, and I think he underestimated it, and I think he admits that. But nowadays he's moving at breakneck speed. Most of the court cases are really not designed to stop him. They're just designed to slow him down and try to mock his mojo. But the fact is he's winning. They tried to get Doge shut down and blocked, and they failed. Now the judge says, I'm not going to block this.

[00:36:45] So we're seeing some real gains, and I'm telling you, when Ocasio-Cortez goes psychotic and literally as a congresswoman – I think she should be arrested for this personally – she literally has on her website ways to help illegals dodge the government, not obey the law. So you don't have to open your door to them. You don't have to talk. You don't have to speak. You can remain silent. And she goes through all this guidance about how you can avoid the rule of law in this country.

[00:37:14] And in my opinion, she needs to be arrested for this. Absolutely. Well, you know, and they are going after – Pam Bondi has come in like a female bulldog. I like what I've seen out of her. She's suing the state of Illinois. She's suing the state of New York, Letitia James, who hounded my friend Peter Brimelow at Vidaire out of business. She's going after people like this and using the might of the federal government against its pets,

[00:37:41] against the people who always wielded this power for the forces of evil. They're actually doing it for rule of law and on behalf of the American people. So it's just – you know, I've got to say, Sam, you want to temper your reactions to things that are happening in real time because it's hard to see this thing widescreen right now because we're in the midst of it.

[00:38:05] But I can certainly say so far this last month has been unlike anything that has ever happened in my life coming out of Washington. It's anything that's ever happened in the United States, James. Yeah. This is unprecedented United States literally 1776 forward. I'm telling you, it's that changing. And the question becomes, will Congress double down and help us keep the changes? So I'm telling you right now, Congress betrayed Trump the first time, and Congress isn't partially betraying Trump this time.

[00:38:32] I know Mike Johnson's a yes man, yes, yes, yes, Donald, we love you, we love you, we love you. But what has Congress done? Okay, look what Donald Trump's done in the last four weeks. Not quite four weeks, by the way. A day off, right, or whatever. Okay. Look what Trump's done in four weeks. What is that, 28 days? Just say 30 days? Yes. For his first 100 days, he's 30%. Okay. And what's been done is astounding. Don't misunderstand my point. And I'm not attacking Donald.

[00:39:02] I'm giving Donald credit because he deserves it. However, what has Congress done in the last? They started on January the 3rd. So they've almost had two months. Let's say seven weeks, right? And what have they done? I got an answer to that. They've basically passed this one Lincoln-Riley Act, which is good. I support it. They also have approved a few of Donald Trump's nominees for things. Other than that, they've been nothing but a clown show, James. Well, I mean, you know, it is still early.

[00:39:32] And you named two of the things that I was going to point to. I think the Lake and Riley Act, though, is interesting, very interesting, because the Democrats could have filibustered that. But the Trump wave is so powerful right now. It's sweeping up even people like Kevin Fetterman. And you have Democrats and vulnerable swing states that are voting with the Republicans because immigration is just the public will behind immigration control. For sure. It's not a partisan issue. We're all going, we don't want thugs raping our daughters and our wives.

[00:40:00] And we don't want thugs going ahead and killing people. And nobody wants that, right? Well, they did want it until Trump made it popular. You know, until Trump made this. I think a lot of the rank-and-file Democrats and the average Joe on the streets didn't want it even then. It was just the media that made you believe that. It was these Democrat leader whacked-out crazy people that were fine with it. But I don't think the average rank-and-file Democrat was for it. Well, maybe. Maybe. But anyway, the fact that that got through and that's already law, that is a change.

[00:40:27] And these appointments, I mean, you know, he's still, I mean, you've got Marco Rubio going down there like Teddy Roosevelt, just beating all of these third-world places into submission and then these third-world heads of states. And then you've got J.D. Vance over in Europe just totally, totally handling them. And Trump's administration is still filling out. I mean, just within the last week, just this week, just within the last seven days, Sam,

[00:40:53] two of his most key appointments and two that I thought would maybe have the hardest time getting in there, Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. are in. And what RFK may be able to do, I mean, that's another thing. Again, you're drinking news out of a fire hydrant. I mean, this would be something we could normally cover for an hour or more. Now he's in charge of the FDA and the CDC. Now it's a super important blip. It's a blip because of the fire hose, but it's really, really vital. I agree 100%.

[00:41:21] I mean, so all that is happening still within the first month. And if you extrapolate what we've seen out of the first month, extrapolate it by a year and, you know, God willing, four years of this, it's going to be an entire – it already is. You already said this first month has been unprecedented in American history. It's already a different country. It is not debatable either, James. No, I don't think so.

[00:41:45] And if this can continue for a year, two years, four years, then, you know, again, you may have a new political alignment where it's basically a one party. And these EOs, though, still, I mean, yes, they can be overturned in four years if a Democrat gets back in there. I think right now, I mean, you know, again, four years is an eternity. But right now you'd have to say, I mean, J.D. Vance would be the next president, and then you're going to have, you know, potentially eight years of that.

[00:42:14] Yeah, but Donald says it's too early to endorse him. It might be Donald Jr., my friend. Well, you know, he's going to do the same thing his dad would have done. That's for sure. But these EOs, in the meantime, you know, for at least the next four years, that's the way it's going to be. These people aren't coming back for at least a half a decade. And we pray that's true. We pray that really works. And we pray that it's accurate and everything else.

[00:42:33] All I know is when Ocasio-Cortez literally decides she has to put on her website how to avoid the law as a congresswoman, if that doesn't tell you how well this deportation plan is going, I don't know what does. And so you've got to just jettison the mainstream press, and you've got to look at this honestly and fairly. And I'll give you another example of the benefit of Doge.

[00:42:54] It's one thing to literally point to things that Doge is doing, investigating, auditing, focusing on, the changes made, the people fired, let go, the exposing of criminal expenditures, and the list goes on and on. But Doge's footprint is even wider than you can possibly imagine. Because now all kinds of states are starting to do their own audits and look into things, James, just as kind of a result or just riding this wave, as you point out, that's really critical. Let me give you an example of New York.

[00:43:23] New York, ladies and gentlemen, paid $206 million to settle misconduct lawsuits, the most since 2018. Chelsea Rose Martius wrote this piece.

[00:43:44] And it accounts for only 27% of the $756 million the city has paid in such lawsuits over the past seven years, according to data released by a group called the Legal Aid Society. So think about that for a minute and say, now they're starting to expose this money.

[00:44:08] Listen, $756 million over the last seven years. So it's over $100 million every year for the last seven years, James. And now that's being exposed, too. And they're changing things to prevent this. See, that's another thing to look at. This is important. This is key. And it makes me think of something else. So that's just another reverberation.

[00:44:34] That's just another shockwave that's just washing up and washing out. Wait till they start focusing on Gavin Newsom and the folks over there in California. You're going to see a treasure trove, too. And in the meantime, you have in the red states, the red states are so encouraged by this and have such a free reign now, especially in the South, that they are just running roughshod. Let me give you an example.

[00:45:02] With Trump back in the White House with this clear mandate that we've been talking about and the Supreme Court racing to the right, Republican trifectas and super majorities in these southern states with this radicalized conservative base that we have right now. I mean, what you have, Sam, is southern state legislatures are going to town on illegal aliens and proposing and passing all sorts of new laws to make it impossible for them to live here.

[00:45:25] So Texas and Florida, for example, have already started to deputize and enforce federal immigration laws. Yeah, we want to list the people who got illegal driver's licenses. The list goes on and on, buddy. And Mississippi and Missouri are going to follow suit. Some other states have already done this. They're hiring bounty hunters to go and find these people like they're pythons in the Everglades or something. I mean, it's just incredible.

[00:45:52] So as much as the whole country is changing, the red states are going even beyond that now. And so it's just going to be hard to walk all this back. Do you want to peacefully leave or do you want to end up in Guantanamo Bay? Or do you think maybe you'd want to be, oh, maybe you could go to, let's see. Well, maybe they'll start up some prisons in Venezuela, James. Or maybe El Salvador is already offered, right? Well, they're paying per head down there. Do you want to go to El Salvador or Guantanamo Bay or do you want to leave peacefully?

[00:46:21] You decide there. Well, you know, they're paying some of these supermax prisons in the third world to take some of these criminals. And I'm talking about this ain't like an American prison. I mean, this is just really bad stuff. You've seen it on these world's worst prison TV shows. But if you leave peacefully, you won't get caught in that snare, James. Well, that's absolutely right. You might have to go, but you might not have to go there. But that's all. That is the point. All of this is happening.

[00:46:48] And it's just going to be, I think, you know, I just think that this is a case where timing and circumstance have finally intersected. And the movement has risen that, you know, frankly, a lot of us, Pat Buchanan for decades prior have been advocating for. I mean, this is sort of that sort of America. That Ron Paul. Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul had a kid. And it was this administration. All right. Are you ready? It gets better.

[00:47:14] The Trump administration now is using a covert drone program to hunt down fentanyl labs in Mexico. And it's the latest. This is New York Times. And on his first day back in office, President Donald J. Trump signed an executive order designating drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. This gives more power to evict them and get rid of them.

[00:47:41] Now you've got a drone program running to discover these labs. And right now they're just. Oh, what do I want to say? Right now they're basically reporting the details of, hey, we found another lab to Mexican officials. And Trump is giving them time. To take action. That's it. That's interesting. As you as you read that question. Hold on.

[00:48:08] So the question becomes, will Mexico comply and participate in help? Or will Mexico decide that tariffs are their friend? That's what's happening, James. I will tell you. And maybe I would like to open up. William S. Lind is an old. He's old. But he's an old school political theorist. And who is this again? His name is William S. Yeah. William. OK. William Lind.

[00:48:37] He's been around forever. He's been talking about cultural Marxism and political correctness. I mean, he really was one of the key intellectual figures on the right. He's not a household name, but anybody who is in these circles knows him. He wrote an incredible article. It's kind of like a nobody, according to the liberals. But he's so influential. You can't ignore the guy. That's pretty much it. A little bit. Yeah. That's right. That's right. But there's something he wrote that pretty much brings everything we've been talking about into sharp focus.

[00:49:06] Maybe we can start the next hour with that. It's just very quick. Just a paragraph. But I just want to say. Well, I mean, I'm looking at this thing from this map of. We were talking about state legislatures that are moving even beyond Trump on some of these things, you know, banning and parallel to. Yes. Banning surgeries and hormones for kids, these gender reassignment things. And it's it really is a map. I'm looking at a map right now. And I agree on those people need to go to prison.

[00:49:35] It should. They should. Yes, absolutely. And it shows how the country is really split. It's basically all of the interior, all of the old Confederacy, obviously Utah, the Mountain West states and Colorado is there in the middle as a liberal oasis. And then and then just the coasts. And so all of the interior of America is green and the coasts are are red. They are sanctuary states in Washington state.

[00:50:05] You can actually seize children for that. They're really blue states. But I know what you're saying. Right, right, right. No. Yeah. Yeah. Excuse me on this map. It's yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I'm sorry. I understand. I just want people to understand that. On the map, it's red and green. On the map, it's red and green. And green is the conservatives that want accountability. Red are the rogue agents that have gone communist thug. But set aside the red blue discussion. That's not part of the map is the point. Well, it really. Yeah. Red is blue. Green is red. Correct. In this on this map. Yes.

[00:50:34] It's it's green is like all systems go. The kids are protected in the red states. They're still they're still there. Yeah. They're still being abused. It's an emergency alert, you know, abusing. Basically. Yeah. I can see how that would be confusing. That I'm glad you clarified. That would be very confusing. I'm looking at it and you're just hearing me speak and you're like, what are you what's he talking about? You know what? This is tremendous. This is huge, though. And so here's the quote. Well, this is William S. Lind on Trump's blitzkrieg. And he said he writes.

[00:51:04] So one of the ways Germany's World War Two blitzkrieg worked was by combining speed with multiple thrusts. Speed cut inside an enemy's reaction time while multiple thrusts caused him to spread his defending forces so weak that none were effective of the multiple thrusts. So one was a bid for a decision, but the enemy could not tell which one more. The Germans could and did switch their tactics as developments on the battlefield required.

[00:51:30] This perfectly describes, we miss Lynn writes, what Donald Trump is doing to the establishment each day sees at least one initiative that the establishment regards with horror before it can react. It's hit with another. How serious the president is on each issue cannot be determined. And so the establishment must try to put maximum effort against each. But it only has so much muscle. And while it tries to concentrate on one of the president's initiatives, it is hit by another and then another and another.

[00:51:57] If one does get blocked, the president merely shifts his blitzkrieg to something else that is meeting with only weak resistance. The establishment's face, therefore, is frozen in the munch scream. You know, that classic piece of art by him. Yes, sir. The scream. And he concludes by writing, I want to talk about it. Caroline Levin is ready to talk. Oh, absolutely.

[00:52:22] And he concludes, William S. Lynn does by writing, all of this leaves the establishment like the French in 1940, always reacting too late and with too little. My advice is to keep up the tempo. And I think that's a pretty good assessment of what we've seen for the first month. If that can continue for four years, it's a whole new world. And a better way. Do you like Kentucky Fried Chicken, James? Oh, yeah. You don't anymore, buddy. What happened?

[00:52:52] KFC to move corporate headquarters from Kentucky to Texas. Oh, yeah. That's still, you know, southern state to southern state. I mean, that's still within the same country. So it's not KFC, it's TFC. Well, I doubt they're changing the name, but. No, they're not. You know, they're just moving to a different state. And the reason they are is because of taxes and abuse.

[00:53:17] You've had Mitch McConnell, this clown that can't even walk around anymore, abuse the state of Kentucky so hard for so long. They're leaving for Texas. Well, you know, it's funny you mentioned McConnell. He was the only one. Donald Trump has whipped these Republicans to heal in such an amazing manner that Mitch McConnell was the only one. And he voted to block both Tulsi and RFK Jr., but he was the only Republican senator. And he only did it because, as you said, he's so. He's so. But I got a question. We've got to dig into Joe Biden and the decisions he made.

[00:53:47] We've also got to do the same thing with old Mitch McConnell and some of these other clown senators. I agree. Nancy Pelosi and some of these other people. They're not even competent. Did he really make that decision? Or did some staffers just vote, you know, tell him vote for this? And so he just kind of went up there and couldn't even hardly talk, but he won't press the button for his vote or what? You know, how does all that go down? He's out to lunch, too. And I'll tell you about Texas. You know, Texas is one of the few southern states, one of the few states in the country that doesn't have a state income tax. A lot of savings there for Colonel Sanders. Amen to that.

[00:54:15] Corn and cluck might be under a buck once again. By the way, did you know my sister made up that phrase? Kentucky Fried Chicken took it. True story. Let's talk about that when we come back. Corn and cluck for under a buck. Anyway, all right, there you have it. Hang tight. I'm Sam Bushman. I got James Edwards with me. Thepoliticalsesspool.org. We're syndicated by the Loving Liberty Radio Network. LovingLiberty.net. And God save the Republic of the United States of America.