Radio Show Hour 1 – 01/24/2025

[00:00:13] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman live on your radio. Hard-hitting news the network refused to use, no doubt, starts now. This is the broadcast for January the 24th in the year of our Lord, 2025.

[00:00:38] This is Hour 1 of 2, Promoting God, Family, Country, Protecting Life, Liberty, and Property, Using the Constitution for the United States of America as our guide, Rejecting Checks and Balances, Never, Always Standing with the Checks and Balances, Ladies and Gentlemen, Rejecting the Violation of the Separation of Powers. That's who we are and what we do on your radio. Welcome to the broadcast. The way back is simple.

[00:01:03] It is to follow the author and the DVD lecture series to preserve the nation. That's how you can get it done, freedomsrisingsun.com. Now, I got an interesting little idea. You know, I always start out on the radio, and what I was taught back in old radio days, 30-plus years ago or whatever, hey, you never want dead air. You always want to come across like with stage presence, so you just jump onto the stage and it's like, boom, you know, you're there and ready to go.

[00:01:31] But you know what? There's a change that I'm seeing that I find fascinating. And what brought it to my attention today, and I want to ask Dr. Scott Bradley about it, who will be with me in seconds, about this phenomenon because I find it interesting. You know, the old radio idea was you're going to come in with a flurry. You're going to use hooks to kind of hang people over brakes. You know, you're going to do the tease, tease the next story. Okay, all these kind of things come to mind.

[00:02:00] But I received these podcast emails with these huge podcast groups. I mean, they're iHeartRadio and Spotify, and, you know, they talk about Joe Rogan and all the top podcasts and this and that, and they tell you how to do it. You know, here's how you do it if you want your podcast to grow. Here's what you do. And I find it interesting. So these guys said, hey, we're kind of radio or audio people. We don't really want to do video. Let me just show you. And so they filmed their audio show. And they're like, this is kind of the difference in audio and video. And here's what you do and why and everything.

[00:02:30] They're supposed to be like the professionals showing me how to do it properly. You know, after 30 years, I got to watch these guys to see how to do it. You know, how long they've been in the business, I don't know. But it's interesting. But the reason I bring this up is because they don't start out like I do. They don't start out going, hey, happy to have you along. Here's who we are. Here's our goal. Welcome to the broadcast. You know, they don't do all that stuff. All they do is they kind of start out. They're like, hi, Scott. You there, Scott? How you doing today, buddy?

[00:02:58] You know, welcome to the show. You know, and even Joe Rogan and some of these top people start out. They're just like, hey, man, it was cold when I got up this morning. It's kind of freezing. But, you know, I got over that. I'm all good to go now. And I got my coffee. Just so you know, I don't drink coffee. I'm just saying. And, you know, man, it was kind of rough. Didn't sleep very well last night. Kind of tired today. You tired today, Scott? You know, and they have this. I don't even know what you want to say. There's not really staged presence.

[00:03:27] It's more like, hey, we're just going to hang out and talk amongst the buddies here around the water cooler. If y'all want to listen in. You want to listen in, audience, to me and Scott talk around the water cooler there? What do you think, Scott? Is that a good idea? You like that? It's like that. And I kind of go, is that like what we're moving to? Is that the better way to do it, Scott? See, I got to start out and say Dr. Bradley. Yeah, it's a real question. I can't say Dr. Bradley. I just going to be like, hey, Scott, what's happening?

[00:03:57] Well, you know. What do you think? You know? I think part of my problem is, you know, you say leap on stage and, you know, taking control. All too often when I leap on stage, I trip and fall. But, you know, a lot of the things that are happening today, I think there's a lot of reasons, I believe, that's going the way you've just explained. Part of it is an awful lot of the people really don't have a lot to say.

[00:04:26] I mean, they really are kind of just doing it for whatever money they can make off of their monetization or whatever. They're not principles-based, driven with passion. And there's also kind of a voyeuristic element of society today. It's like everybody wants to kind of look into everybody's, you know, kind of private lives. Yes, I show a snapshot of showing them that I'm really on the beach right now, Dr. Bradley.

[00:04:56] Should I do that? Yeah, right. I probably better not. Anyway, the fact is they want it to sound like they're just kind of eavesdropping, candid camera kind of thing on there. And honestly, I guess some of the people are probably falling for it, but I also believe that if you don't have a message and all you're doing it for is you're walking through the motions and trying to scrub up whatever you can do. I kind of hate Donald, want to get famous, you know, other than that. I mean, is that a problem?

[00:05:26] I deserve to have the American dream, you know. I think it drives a lot of people. And so I don't know. There's probably a lot of things that cause that, and I guess they'll find their listeners that are interested in the voyeuristic kind of water, you know, around the water cooter. It's kind of like I'm just playing my video games and just going to talk you along as I go, you know. Good with that? Yeah, to me it's kind of boring. Yeah. I think that there's... Anyway, I digress. I'm wasting time, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:05:54] Back to the hard-hitting news that I wish reviews to use you are familiar with on this broadcast. I joke because I just find it so fascinating. When I listen to these guys like 10 minutes in, I haven't found a single nugget of value for me, either entertainment-wise, education-wise, news-wise, whatever you want to... I mean, it's just amazing. It's astounding to me. So I'm telling you, I'm with Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com. And last night he had a weekly Q&A and a webinar on the Constitution.

[00:06:21] Now, you want to get your ticket so that you can start joining the weekly webinars on Thursday? Then all you got to do is go to freedomsrisingsun.com, sign up, then you'll get an email, and then you'll be part of the webinars. They're great webinars, and they don't just go, hi, Scott. Stubbed my toe in the studio this morning, you know. Okay, we don't do that. On this broadcast, it's hard-hitting news that I refuse to use, serious talk show host radio style.

[00:06:49] The who, what, when, where, why of stories, the commentary breakdown that really means something based on principle. That's what we do on this show. On the webinars, Dr. Scott Bradley does a very similar thing, but you know what? He lets audience participation happen. They submit questions, and then he kind of gets to those questions and brings them into not only a constitutional context of the founding fathers, but he also brings them into a relevant space today.

[00:07:14] In other words, how do we apply what they knew so valiantly then, how do we apply it today and be just as valiant in our day? I mean, it's a mixed-up, crazy, upside-down world. You know, how do you bring all that to the table in a meaningful, productive, principle-based way? Isn't that what the weekly webinars are about? It really is. And the problem with most recent webinars, now I've never, never, ever, not once in all the years we've been doing this, run out of questions.

[00:07:45] I mean, there's always stuff left on the table. But last night, for example, I mean, the questions, I mean, we only got to six questions. I do a long-form answer normally, kind of the back story, why it's important. And maybe some ideas about what might be done about it, if it's kind of disgusting or, you know, maybe disheartening a little bit.

[00:08:11] You know, Joe Biden's, for example, one of the things that came out last night was these preemptive pardons that Joe Biden gave. Yeah, criminals. He needs to go to prison. There's no such thing as a preemptive pardon. Well, the thing is, I kind of put a spin on it and how they might be put to our benefit. Yeah, but even Jesus Christ didn't get a preemptive pardon there, sir. It's right there. In fact, even when Pilate tried, it wasn't preemptive. Well, it was preemptive. He hadn't committed any crimes. But the fact is, do you want Barabbas or him?

[00:08:40] Ah, let Barabbas go. We're going to kill this guy. So anyway, but that was the thing. I mean, there were six questions that I got to. I mean, I must have had 20 at least. I know that seems like a very funny number. That's always the case, right? That's societal. That's reality. Especially when you can go to an expert. You know, people want to go to the doctor, Scott Bradley, and get kind of answers on the Constitution. And they know you're well-read and reasoned in your answers and all these kind of things. And so, you know, people want to bring these things to your attention.

[00:09:08] But what do you say about these Biden things then? You're saying, hey, we ought to have preemptive pardons? No, I didn't suggest that. I think I just preemptively pardoned Sam Bushman before I ever got to earth. You know? Because then I'd just make it with line colors. I think the Savior preemptively pardons you for anything you want to repent of. But at any rate, when the pardons by Joe came up, you know, I'm frustrated as blazes.

[00:09:32] I mean, I personally think Fauci really, after due process and all the evidence has been heard, he ought to be sentenced to the longest term they can possibly come up with all of the years. I agree with that. His violations. But he pardoned him and the J-6 committees and General Milley and all that kind of stuff. Okay, but here's the deal, though. I think this can be used for our benefit. And without going into a 15-minute answer, because obviously there'll be more to it than I say.

[00:10:02] But I really believe that this can be used to the benefit of truth. We need to put a stake in the ground and say, no how, no way is this Bravo Sierra going to go again. And so there's a very, very strong case that can be made that if these people accept the pardons, first of all, it's a tacit agreement that they did something wrong. Okay, so there we have a little bit of a... It is on one hand from a court point of view, but on the other hand, if I am Stuart Rhodes, for instance.

[00:10:32] Go ahead and skip the break. Who I think is my dear friend. And I don't think he's done anything wrong at all. I'll defend him until the cows come home. And they literally barbecue this guy and throw him away for 18 years in prison. And then he gets a pardon by Trump and he takes it. I know they say that's an admission of guilt by taking it. But I almost believe you're forced into taking it. So, yeah, I guess I admitted guilty because it was my only real option on the table. The truth isn't here to be had. And that's a bigger problem, Dr. Bradley.

[00:11:02] Well, here's the deal. It's a big difference between Stuart and this other stuff that's going on. Oh, no question. He was convicted in court fraudulently and all that kind of stuff. I'm absolutely convinced. But he was convicted in court, and so he can take a pardon. But he hasn't been given one yet. I think he's just had a sense. No, he hasn't been just commuted his sentence. And he's still trying to push and hope to get a pardon. That's right. And he's really spending his time on Capitol Hill helping others get pardons.

[00:11:30] Which I think is really commendable. With the preemptive pardons, there has been no conviction. There has been no charges. And they're saying, well, we're going to give you this free pass. But so, number one, their acceptance of it is a tacit agreement that there might have been some smoke and fire together. But here's the bigger part. There's a strong case that can be made that no longer, after you've accepted a pardon, can you accept a pass for the Fifth Amendment self-incrimination?

[00:12:01] Yeah, and they're forced to tell the truth. The problem is, though, you can just say you don't remember. You can just pull a Bill Clinton. I just can't remember. You can play games there. Fauci, for example, he was about as stable as water when he went up for bearing testimony in front of any committee. He perjured himself. He went around the horn. I think if we can get him, first you build as tight a case as you can. Then you get him on the stand. And then you start grilling him.

[00:12:30] You bring in any e-mails he sent, any letters, any text messages. You bring these statements, public statements, in. And after a while, there's a very, very good chance, number one, you'll build a case that will show a bigger picture for other complicit guilty people that can be brought charges on. And second of all, perjury could become a charge for him. He's not been charged. I mean, excuse me. He's not been exonerated of future perjury.

[00:12:59] In other words, the pardon started in 2014 whenever Joe gave it, but then it ended when Joe did the pardon. And after that, if you perjure yourself on the stand, so you're right. The only question is now do the Republicans have the stomach to put him on the stand to get it done? I know Rand Paul would do it if he was given the chance, but usually his chamber betrays him. Well, that is a huge problem. And we talked about that last night also, about how there has to be principle-based things about it.

[00:13:26] And usually what happens, there's a wink and a nod and a little, okay, go on down the road. Everybody, it's like water under the bridge. No one wants to even address it. And so there's no shot over the bow that says never again, not know how, not know way.

[00:13:45] I'm just, you know, whatever we're talking about here, whether it's the Fauci COVID con or it's some general that's committing heinous crimes against the United States and international security by negotiating with a very strongly potential enemy during the waning moments of Trump's presidency. And Milley should be brought to task for that. No, no, I'm talking about when Milley was cutting the ground down from underneath Donald Trump. Yes.

[00:14:14] So here's the deal. I think that they could be used for our benefit in bringing truth and then ultimately. Yeah, so you're saying you don't really accept the pre, you know, the whatever you want to call it, pre-pardon, whatever you call it. Reempt of pardon. Reempt of pardon. Right. You don't really support that, but if they've already done it and they say that it's that way, hey, let's at least get these people on the stand. Let's see if they will, you know, how much information we can gain. Let's cross-examine people. Let's force them to account for their statements. And I agree 100% we need to do that.

[00:14:45] But I don't know that we will. And I also have a little bit of fear that, and this is the problem, I agree there's 100% difference between Trump's pardoning and the pardoning that Joe did. But what the Democrats and the Republicans are all mixed up on, unless they provide proper clarity about the law and they drag this out to get real accountability, in other words, unless we go all the way, people won't really realize the difference between the two. They're like, well, if you're Joe's guy, then Joe's pardons are fine. If you're Donald's guy, Donald's pardons are fine.

[00:15:14] If you're the other guy, the other guy's pardons are not fine. And then if Joe, I mean, if Donald, you know, does all these things to our people, then, hey, four years later when we get control, we're going to, you know, flip the tables again. And, you know, this pendulum of executive orders and doing whatever you want to. And now, well, hey, the previous president got away with preemptive pardons. So, hey, Donald, why don't you preemptive pardon a few people on your way out? And now all we're doing is expanding presidential power and deceiving and confusing the people even further, doctor. So I get your point.

[00:15:44] I don't disagree. But I do have my concerns. There's no question that these should never have occurred. These Joe Biden out the door kind of thing and his the broadness of his pardons when he gave Hunter something back to 2024. Why did they pick that? 2014. Because that excuse me, 2014. Yeah, that's he picked that because they know the shady dealings that boy was involved in and they wanted to clear him of everything.

[00:16:11] I mean, whether it was crack cocaine or prostitution or or tax evasion or pay to pay international criminal deals. Absolutely. Med with the private sector and the whole list. Right. But let's go back on that one for just a second. That to me is it should be just as much pursued because if you OK, you can say, well, well, well, we're going to go along with the pardon. He can't be you know, we can't bring him to trial, blah, blah, blah.

[00:16:37] But once you get him on the stand and they start peeling the onion, you can see who else was accepting bribes and being paid. Amen. We'll put Joe on the stand. He didn't pardon himself. And this is a point that Donald Trump made. Basically, Trump said sad. Joe didn't pardon himself while they had the chance. And I don't know, really, if Trump will be serious about this. But Trump hinted that he would go ahead and, you know, let Congress look into Joe.

[00:17:05] But he's like, hey, we'll leave that up to Congress, which sadly, I kind of think that means nothing will happen. But, you know, at least I didn't speak out about that. I don't think that Trump could initiate those kinds of hearings. I think the legislature should do that or the Department of Justice on criminal charges.

[00:17:24] Anyway, the point of the matter, though, that is that what was his name, Robert Herr, I think, that gave Joe a pass when he came in and talked to him about his classified information in his garage. And he says, you know what? The jury's not going to do anything with this doddering old guy that probably can't remember what he had for breakfast. And that's kind of where we are with Joe. I think Joe has been that way for a long time.

[00:17:52] I don't know if anybody would think we've got to go after the old man who has been through, you know, elder abuse already. Joe, yeah. I think we've got to prosecute him and throw him in prison. Here's the problem is that you're going to find a lot of juries that are going to say, oh, he kind of reminds me of my grandpa. Yeah. I mean, my grandpa has trouble with remembering what he had for breakfast. He's in his house slippers sitting there.

[00:18:17] You know, I mean, that's the problem you're going to have is follow on and people are going to think. And that's where I think that what we need to do is we need to. Mike Johnson didn't get a pardon, for example. And Mike Johnson knew that Joe was incompetent. January 2024. He blatantly admitted on public TV. And he sits there silently while his primary has skipped for the Democrats, while President Biden is going to try to run for office again, knowing full well he's not even competent to serve his current term out, much less take on a new term.

[00:18:46] And he says nothing over and over and over. At what point do we prosecute a Mike Johnson? Well, I think that Mike Johnson can have his own. You know, there's there's a lot of burdens of Mike Johnson ought to be bearing right now. I think that he's we've had we've been bamboozled by this guy. He's a he's an intelligent, articulate young man that shows well when he gets in in interviews.

[00:19:13] But but he sold us out and are going to continue to. And I think you're going to see huge military commitments to Israel, for example, at the behest of of Mike Johnson. Yeah, they're going to be the war president, aren't they? Well, see, he says he's going to go not get us in war. He's going to bring the troops home. Well, see, watch what they do, not what they say. And what are you saying? And, you know, he's put out the word to Biden, Biden, Putin.

[00:19:41] We got so many weird characters out there to Putin. You know, you got to fix this thing in Ukraine or else. What does or else mean? I mean, come on, people. It's like you're you think you're the big guy with the stick on the in the street and you're you're going to straighten things out that way. It's not his monkey. It's not his. We don't have a dog. Well, that's why, you know, they say Donald Trump is already waffling on his biggest promise he ever made on the election or on the campaign trail.

[00:20:10] He promised to get out of the war with Ukraine and Russia within 24 hours. Now he admits it's way harder. And I agree with all that. It is over promised. He's over promised. He'll under deliver. But I don't even know really if he'll be able to even solve it necessarily. Now, I pray he does. But I don't have a lot of confidence that he will, because, again, we're so often given smoke and mirrors. You know, that's the thing. Both presidents might sit down at the table and shake hands and agree in public and take a nice photo.

[00:20:38] And then we find out, oh, man, they've been lying to us about who's been where and what we've funded and what we've done and and everything else for so long. It's not even funny. Anyway, Trump, it's sad that former President Biden hadn't issued a pardon for himself before leaving office. And he'll he says, we'll let Congress decide. I agree. I don't think Congress will do a single thing with Joe Biden. I don't. And I don't personally. My opinion is you can't pardon yourself.

[00:21:07] I mean, this violates all fundamental principles. You can preemptively pardon yourself, in fact. And who, I mean, anybody. Hold on. You can preemptively pardon yourself. That's right. I mean, let's say he does it. What are you going to do about it? This is a facade. I'd say we're going to we're going to challenge this. There is nothing in here that would that would indicate that has ever been on the table before. And suddenly in the last four or five years, there's been all this discussion about, hey, I'm going to give myself a pat.

[00:21:36] I mean, what do you do when selling indulgences like the Catholic Church used to do? Yeah. You sell you sell future sins. But you know what? But it is just absurd to think there's got to be an intelligence that intervenes on this thing. And if a president, I mean, just to say Biden did pardon himself. First of all, does he have the gray cells to understand that that may be a way out?

[00:22:01] And then to think it through and have somebody say, Mr. President, I think that you can give yourself a free pass. There aren't any free passes in mortality. There's always, always, always a judge. And, of course, the Savior will be our judge ultimately and finally. But that's only if you use logic and reason and reality. Yeah, you're right. I mean, logic, reason and intelligence seems to have fled and mush for brains prevails in so many things nowadays.

[00:22:30] But people need to think about this. If it were really possible to do, who wouldn't give themselves a free pass for everything forever? Darn right. So. I think they ought to have basically ancestral free passes, too. If you can just show anybody's tied to my DNA, they should get a pass, too. Come on. Well, that's kind of what they're doing with. They're kind of doing that with this reparations thing. You know, they are. They say, well, my great, great, great, great, great. By the way, just so you know, I don't believe in that for a second. Don't think that I do.

[00:23:00] No, I'm demonstrating the absurd by being absurd a little bit. But speaking of pardons, Donald Trump did do something that I got to commend him for. Trump pardoned 23 pro-life activists on Thursday who were prosecuted by the Biden administration for peacefully protesting outside of abortion clinics. So now Donald Trump did the 15, 1600, whatever for the, you know, J6.

[00:23:29] Now 23 pro-life people. And we've been asking Trump to do this. So I commend him for doing it. We've still got a lot more people to pardon. We need to go pardon all the people that have been abused by the IRS that has violated the checks and balances. Judge, jury, and executioner over at the IRS. We've got to abolish the IRS and pardon a lot of people that have got these so-called tax violations where, hey, the IRS is such a no-man's land where you don't even know. Congress won't decide. The courts won't decide.

[00:23:56] Everybody's just, you know, being abused by this Gestapo group called the IRS. So I commend Trump for pardoning the 23 pro-lifers, though, doctor. When we get back, we'll have you comment on that. And who needs to be pardoned next? And how far does this go is the real question. We'll do it in seconds. Dr. Scott Bradley with me, freedomsrisingsun.com. You are listening to Liberty Roundtable live.

[00:24:50] Exposing corruption. Informing citizens. Pursuing liberty. You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Rich Thomason. President Trump is visiting hurricane-battered North Carolina today where people are still struggling to recover from the devastation wrought by Hurricane Helene four months ago. Then the president heads for Southern California where wildfires continue to rage.

[00:25:19] Mr. Trump's first domestic trip since taking office again. Armed with a generous supply of Sharpie markers, the president has signed another batch of executive orders, including one directing the release of all records pertaining to the JFK, RFK, and MLK assassination. And everything will be revealed. Mr. Trump also pardoning more than 20 pro-life activists who were prosecuted, some of them put in jail by the Biden Department of Justice.

[00:25:47] And speaking of pro-lifers, thousands in Washington today for the annual March for Life. This year's theme is life, why we march. Scheduled speakers at the pre-march rally near the Washington Monument include Vice President J.D. Vance, Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, and professional surfer Bethany Hamilton. Respondent Greg Clugston. A procedural vote clears the way for a final Senate vote on Pete Hegseth's nomination for Defense Secretary.

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[00:30:28] Donald Trump, executive order, can't have anchor babies. Judge shuts it down nationwide, says it's unconstitutional. There are volleys across this issue everywhere. We'll brief you on some of them now. I don't know if you know, but the mayor of Denver, the guy's name is Mike Johnston. Now, don't get confused. Mike Johnston is the Speaker of the House. Mike Johnston is the mayor for Denver.

[00:30:58] He once suggested that he'd be using his, quote, police force to oppose, to stop deportation officers in his area. He also said he'd be willing to go to jail over the matter. But now he's signaling that he wants to work with federal immigration authorities. And then he says under certain circumstances.

[00:31:20] Denver Mayor Mike Johnston said the city will cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE in cases of violent criminal illegals. And, you know, they'll cooperate. They will notify, I guess, ICE when there's a request for release or an impending release, etc. He's changed his tune completely, doctor.

[00:31:51] He does what? Did you say completely? He's changed his tune? Oh, yeah. No, I don't know. I think what he's done is a... He doesn't want to go to jail. It's true. And that's absolutely correct. So he's like, I'm going to try to work with these guys enough not to go to jail and not be the guy that's, you know, under the laser right now. And then he'll basically publicly, you know, act like he's a board and he'll privately still circumvent every way possible.

[00:32:19] Well, there's a lot. I wish there was a long-form answer we could give to this thing, too. But basically, I think what he's doing is he's trying to kind of weave the circumstances under which basically the entire nation agrees that violent criminals should be out of here. The fact of the matter that it is that everybody that entered illegally is a criminal. By definition, they broke the law to come into this country.

[00:32:47] But he's trying to weave a tale that says basically, oh, we've probably got a couple of these guys in our city and we'll help capture them. But he doesn't want to go beyond that. What's the reality of it, though, is that there's more and more movement to get everybody. But they're just going to start with the most violent and move down the road. They're all criminals. But I think he's trying to keep from seeming too harsh.

[00:33:17] And actually, the feds will put some pretty hard leverage on these guys, I think. I think most of it will be initially an economic kind of leverage. Yeah. And then Trump even says he will criminally investigate those who oppose this effort. There's no question about that. But I think that they're going to see that the road gets bumpy if they go down that path of trying to oppose him.

[00:33:45] But this Lake and Riley Act that both the House and the Senate have passed, if it were me, if I were Trump or I was president, and this was passed, knowing the outrage that people feel with illegals coming in and killing innocent girls, I mean, it is astounding. If it were me and I was Trump, I would make this the first bill I signed that came from Congress.

[00:34:13] I would make it a kind of a showplace, a kind of a – it would become a template of what's going to happen with illegal immigrants. Now, here's what the thing with Lake and Riley Act is. They can be deported or considered held for very minor crimes, if you will, minor crimes. I guess we can all define that in our own mind.

[00:34:38] But the fact is that previously people were saying, oh, if they're murderers or rapists and heroin dealers, yeah, we ought to get rid of those guys. This one says if you're a shoplifter and you get picked up and you're an illegal, you can be deported. And in my opinion, now you've got two crimes. You're an illegal and you're shoplifted. Right. Exactly. So the tenor, the drift of the country is we ain't going to put up with this no more.

[00:35:04] And this Lake and Riley Act should be kind of a template for where things are going. And if I were Trump, I would sign this as my first official act signing a bill that's come from Congress is this one. And the other thing that goes along with this is it also includes authorization, if you will. There's a lot of terms we could probably use.

[00:35:26] But individuals can sue agencies for not performing their responsibility in these efforts to get these illegals out of the society. And so, I mean, and I guarantee governments do not like to open the door for themselves to be sued. I mean, you look at the 11th Amendment. No, but in Utah, for example, in Ogden, the government school district's like, hey, we'll protect illegals. You're welcome to come to school.

[00:35:53] Well, Utah is an undeclared sanctuary state. They don't take the stress out of it, but the state and the church in Utah have said behind the closed doors, this is a sanctuary state. And my county is, too. I mean, that's just the way they handle business. But see, this Lake and Riley Act says, you know, we can send you back to your home country if we pick you up.

[00:36:20] I mean, none of this Bravo Sierra that, oh, it's not a serious issue that you hear broke the federal law and all this kind of stuff. But if you've just been guilty of burglary, it's not so. If you stole a car, it's not a big deal. A lot of those things go upside down and backwards and become violent if somebody shows up at their home when a burglar is being. This Lake and Riley Act says, if you get picked up for a crime, you're going home, baby.

[00:36:47] And if people are not fulfilling their duty, this act says the people that are in charge can be sued. And I think that it's really a kind of a stake in the ground that says, yeah, we're sick and tired of this. And by the way, I think there were, the number alludes me, it was 40-something, probably 47, 48 Democrats in Congress that voted in favor of this bill. Because I think there are people back home who are saying, what the heck are you guys doing?

[00:37:17] Molly Coddling this whole thing constantly has just got to stop. And all of these sanctuary city Bravo Sierras and Biden was actually chartering aircraft to bring people in from other countries, bringing them to given communities. It's like, yes. And now the next headline, I kind of find this interesting.

[00:37:38] The Trump administration will be utilizing military aircraft to assist in the removal of thousands of illegal migrants out of the United States. So, yeah, Trump or Biden used, you know, charter aircraft, military or chartered aircraft to bring them in. And Trump is going to do that to take them out. But my question is, isn't Biden a criminal if he brought him in this way against the law?

[00:38:07] I think absolutely that is a case. He violated U.S. law. And people say, well, and this is the Supreme Court talking right now, so it's not just me making fun of it. The Supreme Court says, well, the president really does have pretty broad powers to do what he wants to do as president. And I don't agree with that. Harmless. I don't agree with it either. Where does he have power to circumvent the law of the land? Well, no. Now, wait a minute.

[00:38:33] He takes an oath to carefully fulfill the law, not to violate it. And that's this is where the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is full of Bravo Sierra, too, very often. And sometimes just the way you hold your mouth is is how they come up with their decisions, I think, because it's really phony baloney. The president is the executive. That means he executes the laws that have been passed constitutionally.

[00:38:59] And you notice I said constitutionally, because if Congress passes laws that are unconstitutional, I mean, holy cow, the president's got to veto them. OK, but but laws passed constitutionally. If they're within the bounds of the Constitution, his duty is to fulfill those law. There's there's such a thing. And they've been doing this for decades now. They call them signing statements.

[00:39:22] And so when the president sits down to sign a law, very often he says, I love this law, except these four aspects of it. I'm not going to enforce. No, the president can't. You can't. That's a that's like a line item veto. And we can talk about why that should never, ever, ever happen. Well, in spite of what Ronald Reagan used to cry from the pulpit. Give me line item veto. No. Let's just take every president seeks for power.

[00:39:51] We need to help them not seek for power. They need to seek to pull it down, ladies and gentlemen. Now, Donald Trump, I don't know if you know, spoke to the Davos crowd, got introduced by Klaus Schwab, of all people. It was a disaster. But they say this president. Donald Trump puts Davos on notice over his agenda. Explains that the United States will become a manufacturing superpower using oil and gas. Bob under WND dot com with this piece.

[00:40:22] And so let me play this soundbite of Trump talking to Davos. And then we can discuss this in more detail with Dr. Bradley. Go ahead and skip the break and play that clip, Liz. All right. She's getting the clip ready here. Are an aid freeze. And I created the new Department of Government efficiency. I terminated the ridiculous and incredibly wasteful Green New Deal. I call it the Green New Scam. I call it the Green New Deal.

[00:40:52] Withdrew from the one sided Paris climate accord and ended the insane and costly electric vehicle mandate. We're going to let people buy the car they want to buy. I declared a national energy emergency. And that's so important. National energy emergency to unlock the liquid gold under our feet. And pave the way for rapid approvals of new energy infrastructure.

[00:41:17] The United States has the largest amount of oil and gas of any country on Earth. And we're going to use it. Not only will this reduce the cost of virtually all goods and services, it'll make the United States a manufacturing superpower and the world capital of artificial intelligence and crypto. Very interesting. Very interesting.

[00:41:42] Trump just told the globalists at the World Economic Forum right to their faces, ladies and gentlemen, that he froze foreign aid. I don't know what that means. I don't know how much foreign aid he can freeze, but we'll see. He says he's ending climate change policy. Green New Deal's dead. He withdrew from the Paris climate accord. Ended the EV mandates or electric vehicle mandates.

[00:42:08] He's rushing to get more fossil fuels, ladies and gentlemen, through oil and gas. But then this. He says America will soon be a manufacturing superpower and the world's capital for AI and crypto. Very interesting statements from the president there to Davos, doctor. Well, I wish we could and had the time to be able to address every single one of those points.

[00:42:36] It's just in a broad brush kind of thing. I think he was telling the Davos oligarchs to invest in America, that they're going to be making more money than they ever thought they could make in the past. And so it was, in my opinion, a reach out for investment capital kind of thing. And yes, he did say some things that the guys at the World Economic Forum have been blowing on embers to get going all across the world.

[00:43:04] The fact of the matter is that these guys, the World Economic Forum, is a completely falsely based leadership group that's oligarchical. It's elitist. It is completely extraneous and extracurricular to anything constitutional. They have no status, no standing.

[00:43:24] Unfortunately, for example, in our home state of Utah, we do have one of our major, major corporate players is one of the major partners of the World Economic Forum. And by the way, they made bazillions. I don't know what the number actually is, but a ton of money off of the COVID con. And they participated in that, accepting corporate and government dollars on that thing, facilitating the lie.

[00:43:51] And they are partners of the World Economic Forum. I think we ought to expose the people that are involved in this power grab. It really is a bunch of people that want to be the corporate heads of nations across the world. And most of them are extremely wealthy individuals or corporations. And, you know, of course, the Bill Gates Corporation and everything is very much involved in this. I agree they don't have any authority, Dr. Bradley.

[00:44:22] But, for example, when you go speak to them like that, you know, some people are like applauding going, yeah, Donald schooled them. Donald told them. Good. Good. You know, right to their faces. Got it done. I appreciate that. But it almost is that they don't have legitimacy. If you go and speak to them, though, you give them legitimacy to a great degree. You make a very good point. I mean, I think that if we kick, I mean, for example, Trump just pulled out of the, well, it's going to take us a year, though, because some nonsense that's involved.

[00:44:51] He just pulled out of the WHO, the World Health Organization, completely, completely debunked and defined.

[00:45:25] And so I think that's a very good point. I think that's a very good point. operations by default. You are giving them credibility. Oh, you just gave, you lent them your church as the forum for this thing. Your leaders can wear the sustainable development little lapel pins that the United Nations puts out. And it's an endorsement that gives credibility, and we've got to quit doing that.

[00:45:54] In a way, Trump, as you point out, gave them more credibility than they deserve by just addressing them. Let them go die on the vine someplace. Ignore everything they do. Do not give them... Well, and I would have just given my announcements through the new media, okay? And let them take it where they want to. I would have issued a press release with my announcement and said, hey, you know what? I'm not going to Davos this year. We're pulling out of that sucker too. We're pulling out of the Council on Foreign Relations. We're pulling out of the UN. We're pulling out of all these clown shows.

[00:46:23] We're stopping foreign aid to all these people too. You know, I would have done it quite differently. But I'm afraid what Trump might do if we're not careful is back out of all these things and then create like-minded, more dangerous organizations. Why do I say that? Why would I say such a thing? Come on, Trump's our guy. He's doing great. I'm grateful for the things that Trump has done that are right. Don't get me wrong. However, when he basically said, we're getting out of NAFTA, get rid of that cursive thing, it's horrible.

[00:46:53] And then he went and, what is that thing? The MCAA? USMCA. USMCA. All right. That thing is worse than NAFTA. Okay. So, okay, this is what I'm talking about. And this is what I'm a little bit afraid of and warning against, doctor. Well, it's NAFTA. As Trump said, it's the worst agreement anybody's ever come into. We're going to get rid of it. We'll throw it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's cheering, including me. He got rid of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and I was cheering about that.

[00:47:22] But then he and his negotiators put the USMCA, United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement. It's NAFTA on steroids. It's probably 20% worse than NAFTA. And it has all sorts of egregious undertow. They're unconstitutional. They violate Article I, Section 8 in regards to the Congress setting the standard of our dealings with international bodies, international nations. And it puts it to an unelected, appointed bureaucracy from three countries that decide

[00:47:51] how we're going to do our trade between the three countries. A completely false premise violating the Constitution. Some of the most, quote-unquote, and I say quote-unquote because I do not believe they are, our constitutionalist legislators in the United States House and Senate supported this thing and pushed for its ratification. It wasn't really ratified. It was voted to accept. But the point of the matter is you're absolutely right.

[00:48:16] These private entity organizations like the World Economic Forum and the Council on Foreign Relations, these guys should have no say whatsoever in our nation's policy or direction, what we accept. It's completely in violation of constitutional things. And they try and get these groups to look like they're prominent, preeminent, and very influential and very credible.

[00:48:45] They have a lot of think tanks and bright people. I mean, Ted Cruz's wife has written some of the stuff for the Council on Foreign Relations. Yes, she also had her hand in the Federal Reserve Banking Cartel too, right? It's absurd that the strength and power we give these people when Congress should say, heck no, a lot stronger than that, obviously. I agree with that. We are not going to go down this path. Here's the interesting thing. Let me ask you a question. So Trump said at the World Economic Forum that we're going to be a world superpower.

[00:49:14] The U.S. will be a world superpower and the world capital for AI and crypto. Do you want to be the world capital for crypto, Doctor? Well, let's talk about AI and crypto for a minute. And we'll do it. And then next hour, by the way, I've got a dovetailed executive order Donald Trump issued that on its face you can applaud when you turn it over. You go, wait a minute, there's a B-side here. We'll do that in seconds. But go ahead, Doctor. Well, this AI thing, I mean, some people are saying it's the Antichrist.

[00:49:43] Now, I don't subscribe to that position. But the point of the matter is that some people are very, very concerned with AI. You can create imagery and voices. Yeah, I can make it sound like Sam and look like Scott. Well, you could, but that would be a real mess. But the fact of the matter is that this, he's putting, it's going to be a huge devourer of electric power. It's kind of like mining. Oh, yeah.

[00:50:10] That's why you've got to do the oil and gas because you'll never have that kind of power otherwise. And so this AI, it really could become a driving force that really puts this nation on a path that it's almost like letting AI run our country. Yeah, it'll be sovereignty breaching to say the least. Klaus Schwab said, hey, Dr. Bradley, you won't even need to vote pretty soon. AI will do it for you. Well, that's the threat. But here's my take on this.

[00:50:37] The AI scenario that we're talking about, technology is neither good nor bad people. Technology just exists or is creative. It's in whose hands and what their intentions are with that technology that matters, right? The problem is, one of the problems, it seems like I read. Now, here you can go and probably do a fact check on me, but it seems like I read, so I'm going to be that tentative.

[00:51:05] I'm going to do a real-time fact check on the doctor. Check that. Yes, sir. Go. That Trump is putting a half a trillion dollar commitment, and it's going to be from private sources as well as government. I'm sure that there'll be some. So we'll read, but they're going to put that towards AI. Donald announced a $500 billion deal. That's a half a trillion dollars, people, that we don't have. Yeah, and so here's what happened. Elon Musk came out and said, but we don't have the money.

[00:51:33] Well, there's a little bit of common sense coming in. But the problem is, Elon Musk seems to feed at the trough sometimes, and the government's rolling it out, too. Sometimes every single thing he's ever done is that. But, Sam, a half a trillion dollars. We're tossing this around like it's a buck and a half. Yeah. This country is bankrupt. These guys with the unlimited printing presses don't believe there's any accountability. Well, it's not their money, so what are they worried about? Who cares? It's Sam's money.

[00:52:03] I mean, Donald Trump is not reducing spending in any way that I can see. I haven't noticed any at this point. Let's put it that way. For anything he says he's going to reduce spending on, it seems like he announces five more things that will blow that expenditure out of the water, even if we did save the money. For example, he said, I cut off foreign aid. What does that mean? Oh, it's a few billion dollars. You're telling me that we're not going to give Israel any more money? No. I mean, Chuck Baldwin just wrote an article that said their first order of business in Congress is to protect and defend Israel.

[00:52:32] Well, that's because everybody's in their back pocket. I mean, if you look at where their funding sources come from, there's only a handful at best, maybe one or two that have not heavily been invested in with the Israeli lobby. Now, you know what? Israel is Israel. It's a modern state. It is a secular humanist socialist state. It is not God's endorsement. You look at what Moses did when they were going to bring the children of Israel, all 12 tribes, not one tribe.

[00:53:02] The covenants that were made. These were a covenant people. Moses and them said, if you do this, you'll get these blessings. If you do that, you won't. And all of these kind of things never happened. In fact, the founders of modern day, the modern state of Israel are all, without exception, socialist. I mean, whether you look at David Ben-Gurion or Golda Meir or Menachem Begin. I mean, Menachem Begin was a terrorist for years.

[00:53:30] He's the guy that blew up the King David Hotel. They would take bombs into little, you know, community marketplaces and blow up people that were trading goats for pigs. I mean, this, it was a terrorist organization that Menachem, and he became the prime minister. I mean, this stuff, you can't make this stuff up. It's all so well documented. It's hard to believe it's real. I'll tell you that right now.

[00:53:56] But Chuck Baldwin wrote a great column. New Congress's first order of business. Protect Israel, writes Chuck Baldwin. Sadly, I think that he's right. I don't think it's the role of Congress, but that's what they're doing. It seems that among the first orders of business at the beginning of each new Congress is to pass legislation protecting, promoting, or pandering to Israel. And it doesn't matter who's in charge.

[00:54:27] Boy, is he right about that. Quick pause. Hour one of the can. Hour two coming up. We've got a lot for you. Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com, and yours truly. Lovingliberty.net. Spread the word. Share the love. And God save the republic.