[00:00:04] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. Sam Bushman with hard-hitting news the network refused to use. Does everybody have Trump-Grainford syndrome? Everybody but Trump, I guess, right? That's what it's starting to amount to is more and more and more groups.
[00:00:30] The always-Trumpers, the never-Trumpers, the Trump realists, everybody is ending up with Trump derangement syndrome, it seems. But you really wonder, has Trump deranged himself? Everything he stood for, he's going against. MAGA's falling apart big time. The midterms are in serious, serious question. Tulsi Gabbard might be next on the Donald Trump, you're fired list. Where do we go with all this stuff is the question.
[00:00:58] I don't even know, except I will say this last point, Dr. Bradley, and then let you finish up on this topic. What do we do with Trump? Because either, I'm sorry, he's self-destructing on purpose, which is my take. He is now slipping, which would be your take. The other choice is he doesn't care. He's a lame duck, and the people around him are starting to assert themselves, and he's got bad guys around him.
[00:01:28] And I think it might be a reality check on all three, Doctor. Well, you know, none of us know what we don't know. That's a good point. If you've built an echo chamber... Yes, sir. Where all you get is this feedback that's exactly your mindset. Yeah, it's like talking to chat GPT. It tells you you're awesome, you're right, you're correct, you're brilliant, you're... Right? Well, when you've heard on a microphone, when you get that high-pitched squeal, it's regenerative feedback.
[00:01:58] It's self-created noise that keeps coming back on itself until it becomes, you know, that high-pitched squeal. Well... And dominates everything, let's be clear. If you've surrounded yourself with an echo chamber, and you're getting rid of anybody that has a contrarian view, you're going to be blindsided sooner or later. Even if the contrarian view is in your best interest, right? Absolutely.
[00:02:23] The problem is, people that love you can help you not self-destruct. I mean, your mom was there to say... And that's why I speak out against President Donald J. Trump when I do. It's not that I hate him. It's not that I... But it is that I want to protect him, and I want to stand for the... I want to be on the side of principle every time. I want to be on the side of God, family, and country, and the protection thereof, and the protection of life, liberty, and property, and the rejection of anything that's contrary. I just want to be that guy.
[00:02:52] Well, your mom was there... And I want to be that guy. To try and correct any missteps and help you to see that there was a better path and all that kind of stuff. We could take that, you know, long discussion right there. But what it appears to me is happening, that the loyalists are going to be safe. Those that have that kind of, yeah, let's stop and think about this attitude, are going to be chopped off at the knees.
[00:03:19] And, you know, on this radio program, you know, people could say, oh, you just hate Trump. No, we love the country. And if the leader is doing destructive things, even destructive things to himself, that there's somebody that's got to have a voice of reason. And maybe the voice of reason is rejected. Who knows? But the fact of the matter is that what it appears to me is that it's on a self-destruct.
[00:03:47] It's that regenerative... It is. And I just don't know if it's intentional. I don't know if he's slipping. I don't know if those around him are asserting themselves so the deep state has swallowed the Donald. I mean, I don't really know where we sit on it or if it's all three. But I can say this. By their fruits shall you know them. And I look at the fruits of Trump, and he's been in office for literally five-plus years now. Four years and then a break and then one year plus. Five-plus years now. And I think everything he has accomplished could be overturned with an auto pen in about two seconds.
[00:04:17] Has he done some good? Yes. Do I give credit for some of that good? Absolutely. But at the end of the day, I don't see any lasting, solid anchor turnarounds or look-to's, the supreme law of the land, really at all, doctor. In fact, I see the opposite. I see us in way more debt. I see us further from the Constitution. I see the power of the president becoming more and more concentrated. That's what I see. So the fruits of your labor, that's what I see from five years of Trump.
[00:04:46] Now, some of it you can say, well, Biden helped do. True. Doesn't change my point one bit, though, does it? Well, Trump seems to be, at least he was in the past, I don't know if he still is, concerned about his legacy, so to speak. Forget legacies. Let your legacy be God, family, and country in the Constitution, baby. And the stuff that's going on right now is the antithesis of what he got elected for. Sure.
[00:05:11] And I find that, you know, this Trump arrangement syndrome theme is just a feedback thing on that. When people reinforce it, they say, oh, he's playing 5D chess. No, I'm not sure he knows how to play checkers. But the fact of the matter is there is no 5D chess. There is a formula that was established nearly 250 years ago, not quite. And 5D chess can undermine the supreme law of the land and the formula and the checks and balances and the rule of law and the supreme law of the land just as much as anything else can.
[00:05:40] And if he's playing 5D chess and he's so advanced beyond every one of us, we wouldn't know when it was happening anyway. So even at that, it would be dangerous. But again, I guess Trump arrangement syndrome causes us to say all these things, never mind the fact that they're true. And over time, we shall be vindicated, my fellow Americans. We absolutely shall. Now, two unique characters discussing a lot of the same things we're discussing. Russell Brand and Tucker Carlson. Very interesting characters. But they're really discussing kind of the same things we are, aren't they, Doctor?
[00:06:10] Well, yes. But one thing I spent some time talking about was two concerns. Well, first of all, let me say, Tucker Carlson uses a long-form interview process, which I cherish. It's awesome. It's incredible. I can't shut up long enough. And if I had enough money, we'd do a lot more long-form stuff too, by the way, people. But the point of the matter, I mean, his interview of Putin, that was monumental. That was groundbreaking.
[00:06:38] That was something all intelligence-gathering agencies should have sat forward on their chairs, taken explicit notes and extreme interest. And they should have analyzed it for opportunities for greater diplomatic discussions as well. I could have written a dissertation on that interview. But there was about three questions that Tucker did not ask that I was dying to have asked, but he never got to them.
[00:07:03] But at any rate, nevertheless, Russell Brand, any of you know him as a Brit? He's an English guy. He's a very funny comedian guy. He's an actor. He's well-known, right? Mile a minute. I mean, he must drink coffee by the gallon. I went and saw him in person too, by the way, at the TPUSA event, and he was funny. Well, here's the deal. He's written a book called something like How to Become a Christian in Seven Days or something like that.
[00:07:30] I'm not sure it's completely accurate, but it's the title. So Tucker was doing a long-form interview with him. I mean, it was like two and a half hours. I listened to the whole thing. I was driving on a long trip. My wife and I were. We listened to the whole thing. Anyway, the first half of it probably was exceptional. I mean, this coming to Jesus and how Jesus can make your life so much better and heal you. I mean, it was like, woo-woo. I mean, all the way through.
[00:07:59] Yeah, and Russell Brand spoke about that at the TPUSA conference and really highlighted that too. Is he a changed man? Does he really believe in Christ? I'm not here to be the judge. That's between him and God and his own heart. But I know he used to be a bad guy. He was involved in all kinds of sexual weird stuff, was involved with being involved with a 16-year-old. He said, hey, that's the way it was in Europe at the time. So he's admitting to a lot of stuff. And at first you can say, well, he's just lying. He's just, I don't know.
[00:08:25] I hope in his heart that he's really, truly become a Christian and that it really governs his life from a moral high bar point of view. And I pray that's true. And I think it might be genuine. I think some of these people might think they're more Christian than they are. What I mean by that is being a true disciple of Christ takes a lifelong dedication and learning. You don't do it in seven days. So that alone makes me wonder. When we say Trump's a baby Christian or Russell Brand, these guys are solid Christians. I don't know about that.
[00:08:53] I hope they're on their way and they're pointed in the right direction. If they're one step out of hell and pointed in the right direction, they're better off than they were. So I bring this up because, look, Christianity is really a lifelong disciple-type pursuit. It's not something that you can do in seven days or five minutes. I mean, I applaud the change in people. I don't mean to diminish that.
[00:09:16] But I just want to say, day-to-day efforts to become more like Christ, it takes time for his image to be in your countenance, doctor. It really does. So I'm not here to attack Russell or anybody else. But we need to be really careful when we think overnight people are just double-down Christians, right? Well, I hope I'm on the right path and I yearn to be and pray to be. But here's where I kind of think the interview fell off the rails. Toward the end, there were a couple of things.
[00:09:43] First of all, Brand is going back to England in the fall to face the music on his sexual charges. And he says he's willing to do that. And I think, whoa, what a big step. But at any rate, he says if that turns out okay, he plans to run possibly for mayor of London in the 2028 election. And here's the deal. He wants to implement pure democracy in London. Shame. And the dangers of that are so, so over the top.
[00:10:12] And I wish we had time to talk about that. Well, they can vacillate between a king and democracy. And in either case, they'll be wrong. All they've got to do is look at the United States Supreme Law of our land and mirror it, and they'll be doing great. Well, here's the deal. The demographics of London have changed so much that you may get Sharia law and all of its implementation. Well, there's even Sharia law being mandated in United States courts in certain circumstances right now. Well, it's against the Constitution. But the fact of the matter is if the demographics of London say we're going to do honor killings,
[00:10:41] we're going to burn girls at the stake that got raped or whatever, it's wrong. And a pure democracy ends up destroying the rights of what are people that are, you know, in this thing that are in the minority. And tight. Everybody around the table alive. Are you watching what's happening in our country and asking, what can I do? Join the John Birch Society in Salt Lake City June 6th for a powerful one-day conference.
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[00:11:37] They implement abortion quotas in all of their clinics. What do you mean quotas? You have to perform a certain number of abortions every month. One of the reasons that I left... Are they explicit about that? Yes. It's in your budget, right there on the line item. One of the reasons I left Planned Parenthood was because in a budget meeting, I was told to double that abortion quota. And for me, as someone who had spoken to the media and had said, you know, we're about reducing the number of abortions,
[00:12:04] we're about, you know, prevention, all these other services, I was shocked. So since you actually worked at a Planned Parenthood, give us some sense of the relative number of abortions. Okay. Abortions, Planned Parenthood provides over 330,000 abortions a year. They are the largest single abortion provider in our country.
[00:12:34] Okay. Notwithstanding, go do your own research on what the founder said about democracy. Read the 10th Federalist paper. Indeed, all 85 essays in the Federalist. And you'll get an idea that if it's a democracy, it is anathema to liberty. Okay. That said, there was one other little issue I know we don't have time to do in depth on anything that we're talking about. But here's a little cautionary note for any listeners and or even Russell himself.
[00:13:05] Sam mentioned that during the presentation he saw him give, he was pretty direct about his escapades. He wasn't touting them as if he was happy about them. He was, I believe there's remorse there. I really do. Okay. So here's the deal. There's two, two, uh, in Matthew chapter 12 and Matthew chapter, I know Luke chapter 11. I won't read them both, but I've got Matthew chapter 12 in front of me.
[00:13:35] And this idea of when you're done, you're done. Okay. If you've turned your back on the natural man, if you will, be done with it, move ahead. Don't tout it. Don't. I mean, there's a lot of kids out there potentially that can say, well, if Russell Brand can go that far off the rails, hey, I'm going to go sow my wild oats and I'm going to come back when the time is right. But here's, here's in Matthew chapter 12. There's, there's, uh, three verses I'll just read to you.
[00:14:01] And then you can comment if you want, but we can leave it and go on to another topic. But it talks about the unclean spirit. This is that licentious spirit that Russell Brand is so open to talk about. But here we go. Verse 43. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest and finding none. Then he saith, I will return to my house from whence I came out. And when he has come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
[00:14:32] Then goeth he and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself. And they enter in and dwell there. And the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it also unto this wicked generation. Okay. Now, so the cautionary note. When you have walked away from a former debauched, depraved, whatever life it is,
[00:14:58] false principles for government or theft or, or moral destruction, whatever, whatever, it's time to move ahead. Don't give it any quarter, any place in your life, because that one cometh and returns sometime and find it empty, swept, and garnished. And oh my goodness, there's a lot. It's a pleasant home now. I'm going back in with seven more that are worse than me.
[00:15:21] So I worry a little bit sometimes with the openness of, to some people, young people particularly. Of course, there's a lot of old people that never grew up, I guess. But to say, hey, look, he went through, I mean, he was immoral thousands of times by his own admission. And this was without any boundaries or gates or anything like that. Yeah, he had plenty of money, plenty of good looks. He's funny.
[00:15:50] He had every way in the modern world and the modern reality to do whatever he wanted to do and to avoid the repercussions. And he blatantly highlights that. He does. And says how wrong it really was and how evil it really was. And I pray that his repentance is genuine. You know, Kanye West did a lot of this too, though. Now, I'm not trying to say that Russell Brand is a Kanye West. I'm just trying to say that, you know, Kanye West, or Yee, or whatever you call this guy, you know, for a while he decided he was going to be Christian.
[00:16:19] He wanted his children to grow up Christian and this and that. And then he got a divorce from Kim and then he melted down and now it's all, you know, supposedly this bipolar and everything else. But I'm saying he did that. And so, you know, being a Christian again, I'm not impressed with the flash in the pan. I'm a Christian now. I'm impressed with the day-to-day living as a Christian. And Russell is starting to show that. And I commend him for it. I hope it's true. And I know that it will bless his life.
[00:16:46] Well, the thing is that, yeah, it's—I know Jesus can heal you and he can do it very quickly and he can carry you forward and your life will be changed. But think of all the carnage, the wreckage that is left behind. I mean, think of the virtue that was stolen, the innocence, the damage that was done to— I mean, families were broken up or— And there's a lot Russell needs to do on that score, but the atonement of Jesus Christ could take care of that too.
[00:17:15] But I agree it's not a pleasant reality. And it takes time and it takes a lot from a lot of people. So, Sam, you know, you leave a wreck behind you. And you go forward, you're okay, you're all healed, the bones are fixed, whatever. But the people that you damaged along the way, they've got to struggle too. So I say, you know, let's not celebrate the wreckage. Let's celebrate the healing.
[00:17:43] But don't do it to the point that you're giving excuse to other people to say, hey, he made it back. I'm going to do two. Hey, woo-woo, let's go ahead, buddy. You know, there's no gates up there. Yeah, real repentance means to do everything we can to make it whole, is your point. And we can't have repentance without all the steps. How do you make whole a family that was broken because of your actions? You don't. You can't. Yeah.
[00:18:10] See, that's the problem is that sometimes unintended consequences, the damage that's done, you have no clues of the burdens that other people have. And you have no ability to solve that yourself either. You can't. And you hope they come to Jesus and Jesus helps them heal and all that kind of stuff. But the fact of the matter is, I just kind of felt like towards the end of the interview, it fell off the rails a little bit with this democracy nonsense, which will end up with a tyranny.
[00:18:40] And that's because Russell Brand and Tucker don't understand the Constitution well enough. And, you know, Tucker should have challenged Russell on that and said, listen, we jettisoned King George over this, buddy. A democracy is a disaster and so is a king. And the reality is in the middle and the reality is the supreme law of our land with checks and balances. And we rejected, you know, these things. And so it's important that we go back to them. And, you know, that's what, in my opinion, Tucker Carlson should do.
[00:19:06] But again, I don't know if he's deep enough rooted in the Constitution for that to happen. And I wish it would have. But there you have it. I don't know if Tucker was going to debate him at any cause. But the fact is... I think there needs to be pushback when you're promoting principles that will destroy nations. I think he could have commented, and my comments would have been to bring it to the concept that's how the differences of democracy and republics are and how republics, constitutional republics set bounds.
[00:19:35] See, the British Constitution is, it's about as stable as water. I mean, there's king's proclamations. There's acts of parliament. There's common law. There's a tradition. I mean, they're kind of adrift in a lot of ways. They don't have a written constitution. And I would highlight the differences between a democracy and a republic as well and set things straight. I would highlight the checks and balances are the key. I would highlight to Russell Brand, if I was to interview him, you know, repentance is great. I'm glad you've become a Christian. I'm glad that, you know, you've been rescued. That's incredible.
[00:20:05] However, you know, how are we going to make up for what can we do for the rest of our lives to try to restore the damage that we've done? It can't be restored by us. We're going to have to trust God for the rest. But there's a lot that Russell Brand can do. He can put a lot of his money into programs to help people. He can educate and teach humbly, not celebratory, but more of a humbleness about the mistakes that he's made. You know, it's going to be a lifetime of payback and of doing your best to make restitution.
[00:20:34] You know, when you've gone rogue for 30 years and then you want to, you know, have a restitution for those things. It's going to take a long time to heal people and things. And you can't do it all yourself, but you certainly can try. And it starts with humility and it starts with real solutions to make a difference. And we'll see if he gets there. I pray that he does. By the way, before we end the hour, though, I want to highlight who is winning, Dr. Bradley, the Straits of Hormos standoff. You got a blockade. I've got a blockade. Everybody's got a blockade, right? Wouldn't you like to have a blockade too, doctor?
[00:21:06] Before we even start this discussion, we've got to realize that this war of choice, this unconstitutional war, the day before that, and all the days before that, the Straits were open. And this idea that this is the big choke point about everything that's going to happen, it has become a choke point at least. But I mean, there's so many that I don't even know.
[00:21:32] I mean, when a president is touting genocide as a solution, you have to say, does anybody understand this? But the fact of the matter is, there's kind of a... I'm not sure Iran has completely got a... or intended to have a complete blockade. But what they've done is they've sowed minds. They've got the potential of destruction from, you know, just beyond the shores of the It will never be the same again, ever. And the thing... The fact of the matter is, the United States has entered into this whole thing.
[00:22:03] And I believe that the United States is really... They're parsing words again. It's more like piracy than it is diplomacy. I mean, and they're taking ships clear off in the East Indian Ocean. So who's winning? They can't... What? Who's winning? Well, nobody is. That's the thing. The whole world is being... Well, what happens if they do the same thing to the Panama Canal? What if the Chinese just does that? Then what?
[00:22:29] Well, what happens if the Houthi do the thing in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aqaba? I mean, what happens if often the... What do they call them? The Scarborough Straits that are off... What if China just seizes Taiwan and we seize Cuba? Then what? Yeah, if they... What if they blockade Taiwan? What if we blockade Cuba? I mean, we could talk about each of these things at length. And what's happening is not... Are we experiencing the beginning of World War III? Is that what's really happening, doctor?
[00:22:59] It may be underway. I don't know. I mean, when does it start? I mean... I don't know. When does it end? When the Savior comes? Here's the deal. When... In June of 1914, some... In Bosnia-Herzegovina, some Serbian secret combination guy killed the Archduke of Austria and his wife Sophie. And by the end of the summer, the entire world ended as a conflagration.
[00:23:29] Did the war start? I think it was June 14th when they pulled the trigger? Or did it start when Austria declared war against Serbia and then Serbia went to Russia? Or did it start when evil bankers plotted the plan in the first place? Yeah, that's right. And it just cascades. And it's one debauched solution after another. I've got a couple of ideas that might help. You ready? I'm listening. No, no kill. No, no go to war.
[00:23:58] Stand with the Prince of Peace. Those are where the solutions really lie. And they're not political, ladies and gentlemen. They're moral in nature. That's the reality check. We want to promote God, family, and country and protect life, liberty, and property. Dr. Scott Bradley, freedomsrisingsun.com. Check out his weekly webinars and more. The To Preserve the Nation Collegiate Series. It's all there. freedomsrisingsun.com. Thanks, doctor. Well, we'll be back next time to stir the pot. Love it. Thank you so much, sir.
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