[00:00:04] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, ladies and gentlemen, happy to have you along. Sam Bushman, Kurt Crosby is with me. LocalHoneyMan.com is website.
[00:00:30] The guy sells honey, and I'm telling you, one of the interesting things about Kurt selling honey is it's raw honey, folks. And the raw honey, the cool part about that is it's not ruined. It's not pasteurized and destroyed. It tastes phenomenal. It's got all the nutrition in it. And one thing I've been learning about honey since I've been hanging out with Kurt, the honey man, is I've learned that honey comes in multiple flavors and stuff. Where you keep the bees, in other words, where they pollinate and make the honey and everything,
[00:00:58] has a tremendous difference not only on the look of the honey, but the taste of the honey and the nutritional benefits of the honey as well. It is just something. I mean, you get some of these specific plants that taste like marshmallows or oranges or whatever. I mean, it literally has the honey flavor with a tint of or a hint of, or whatever you want to call it, an underlying flavor of whatever it be, marshmallow, orange. The list goes on. I'm just telling you, go to localhoneyman.com.
[00:01:27] Get your honey today. And I'm telling you right now, when you do so, you'll be grateful you did because it's nutritious, it's delicious, and it supports Liberty Roundtable Live. Anyway, Kurt, so we've been talking so much about this issue with the mainstream press, where there's a big battle between the FCC and the radio and TV stations, taking people's licenses, kicking people off the air, free speech is at the center of it all.
[00:01:54] But now they're saying that they want to basically reduce restrictions. And I find this weird. Reduce restrictions on how much robocalls you can do. All right? So they want to have restrictions on what are called political robocalls, including AI voices. So they want AI voices to be able to be part of the mix.
[00:02:19] And the Federal Communications Commission, FCC, is, well, they're allowing prerecorded voices, artificial voices, and current law generally requires prior consent. The FCC, though, has opened public comment and requested waivers have not been approved yet. But I feel mixed about this because I do believe in free speech. But I don't believe you have the right to commandeer my phone and just submit all kinds of garbage to my phone, my private property.
[00:02:47] You can't overtake or, you know, control my private property that way. This is an epic battle. What do you say? Well, I mean, Sam, you think it's your phone? Maybe. I bought it. I paid for it. It's my property for crying out loud. Yeah, I know. But, I mean, man, it sure seems like it's a property of everybody else in so many ways, whether it's your federal government snooping on where you're going or so many other things,
[00:03:17] you know, the high-tech world that reads you and says, oh, you know, Sam likes this particular product, so we'll tell him about this ad right now because he's going by and his phone just pinged our location or whatever. I mean, it's the idea of privacy and your property. It's kind of hard to put your arms around these days, isn't it? Heath Perkins with us.
[00:03:46] He's the money man. Yeah. Watercoinco.com. Welcome, sir. I bet he thinks his phone's his too, doesn't he, Kurt? Yeah. You think your phone's yours, don't you? Yeah. I paid for it, I bought it, and then I also paid for the subscription for it, so I would assume so. Oh, yeah, that's right. He thinks his phone's yours, do you, Kurt? Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's right. Well, anyway, it's amazing.
[00:04:16] The world we live in, and you watch the old Daniel Boone or something like that, and you think that lucky guy never even had a cell phone, you know? You know what I mean? Yeah. Times were different then. Yeah, anyway, very interesting. They're saying that they're going to start opening up robocalls, political robocalls with AI voices and everything else to come to a door near you if they're not very careful, though. They'll have Donald Trump saying things that he didn't say and everything else, and so be very aware of that.
[00:04:45] I found that interesting. But now we want to talk about honest money, ladies and gentlemen. So where's gold and silver sitting, Heath? Gold's sitting about $4,137.80, and silver's sitting at $59.41, so about a 69-to-1 ratio right now. Wow, the ratios are getting a little bit better than they used to be.
[00:05:10] Gold and silver certainly not at their high, but certainly way above where we saw them for years and years and years. What's kind of happening in the markets precipitating this? Is everybody holding their breath because they're afraid of an October surprise, Heath? Yes. A lot of people are holding their breath. Even though the price is down, I still have seven sellers to one buyer. It's interesting to see that a lot of people have just put everything on pause.
[00:05:39] They're just not sure how to react. They're not sure if they're going to have more of their funds being eaten up with fuel costs, if they're going to have more of their income eaten up with inflation in other ways. Yeah, it's just a lot of people are struggling, so I'm seeing a lot of people sell. They need the funds for day-to-day living. And then I'm just not seeing the purchasers, the people coming in to purchase anything from us
[00:06:08] like I normally have been in the past when you see a dip in the market. Kurt, what do you say to that? Well, I would say to any of our listeners, this presents you an opportunity. I mean, buy low, sell high. I mean, when you know the value of honest money, silver and gold,
[00:06:33] a 2026 American-made U.S. Mint Silver Eagle is going to cost you a little less than $70, right, Heath? And that's 70 Federal Reserve notes, 70 pieces of paper that, you know, it's going to be hard to use something, at least in my opinion, or find much of value out of those Federal Reserve notes,
[00:07:02] where a silver dollar, you know, is going to maintain it. Now, I mean, it's beautiful to see those coins. We're still waiting for the Trump coin, Kurt, the $40 trillion coin that just pays off the fraud. Right. All in one payment, one little, you know, you can make the thing really small. It could have Donald's picture on it and everything else, and it could be the historical reality check. President Trump got rid of the alligator bankers, whatever you want to call them, the thugs and vipers, and, you know,
[00:07:30] I mean, Andrew Jackson had some pretty good words for this. And Trump could go down in history as the greatest president in American history, getting rid of the bankers and the thugs, and the Trump coin got her done. Heath? Yeah. Yeah. No, I completely agree. I think every nation's biggest struggle has always been their financing institutions, and whether the country owns those financing institutions, or whether it's hijacked and taken from them,
[00:07:59] truly shows you how free those countries are. So getting the middleman out of the way, getting a central bank out of the way, and giving that back to the United States, which would allow us to earn the interest off the banks instead of the Federal Reserve or private bank earning the interest off of the government. I mean, we can't get out of debt without us printing our own money, without us issuing our own money.
[00:08:27] And, again, it's a fraud like Kurt has said, as well as Sam. The Federal Reserve has been the biggest fraud, the biggest Ponzi scheme the world's ever seen. And, unfortunately, it's looking like they're trying to default all nations simultaneously with so much debt that the interest payments aren't even affordable anymore. So, something needs to happen. And I'm going to defend President Trump a little bit here,
[00:08:55] because he's the only president that's really, even in modern times, been willing to mention the Federal Reserve and some of the problems with it and everything else. Most presidents don't even talk about it or touch it with a 10-foot pole. Since Ron Paul put it on the campaign stage, though, it's been an issue. And President Trump's been the president to at least speak about its ills and its problems. Now, he needs to go way further in this discussion. I get it. But he's got to get some credit, Kurt. Mm-hmm.
[00:09:19] Yeah, and like the freewatercoinco.com website says, our quarter still buys a gallon of gas. And I would simply say, pretty much a dime still buys a gallon of gas, if you have the right dime. And the president can certainly bring that up and point that out and say, hey, you know, I found out just like JFK did that there was a problem with this whole money system,
[00:09:47] and so we're going to fix that, baby, just like we fix all these other problems. Man, I'll tell you what, he'd light up the world with that kind of info, huh, Sam? That's what I think. And I think the sooner the better. I mean, right before midterms, I'm going to abolish the IRS, the Federal Reserve. And we had a guest on yesterday. We had a guest on yesterday that talked about how the IRS is really just a subchapter of, if you really study the historical documents and anything else, a subchapter of the Federal Reserve.
[00:10:17] So I think if you just abolish the Fed, you can get it all done, Heath. Agreed. Yeah. Don't need the IRS. Need to go back and look at the books and realize the 16th Amendment was never ratified. That was also a sham, a fraud there. You know, if you think about it. Go ahead and skip the break. Go ahead, Heath.
[00:10:41] In 1912, for us to, for how conservative of a people we were, for us to vote to the yes, saying, yes, we want to pay income tax. And that was only 3% back then. But for us to vote, we wanted income tax back in 1912. And for that to be ratified across the majority of states in the U.S. to create the 16th Amendment, it's just, there's zero logic behind that.
[00:11:07] And if you go back into the Congressional Library, you'll find that that never was ratified. It was a sham. It was just a bunch of the newspapers printed saying it was ratified. And then everyone just had to go along with it because they pushed it through regardless. But you have to have a way of taxing the income of the citizens of a nation in order for a central bank to fully function the way they want it to function.
[00:11:32] So, of course, they had to put that in place prior to the formation of the Federal Reserve, which was the very next year. So, yes, you get rid of the Federal Reserve. A lot of the IRS will go away. You're still going to have, there's always going to be residual things because there's always those technical. There's a lot of things that you might have by statute, but you're not going to have because there's no money to fund it. There's no real support for it, bottom line.
[00:12:00] So things will come back down to reality. All things that go up must come down. They'll come down as a result of that. Oil, they say, tops $105 as Treasury yields rise and U.S. stock futures fall. Do you think this is going to be a sustained reality or is it just a temporary blip? Heath? I've been seeing that the U.S. index has been increasing, the dollar index has been increasing,
[00:12:30] and the oil's been coming down. I think they're trying to keep it underneath that $100 mark for the midterms. And they don't want all the Republican seats to be lost due to the price of fuel, and that's going to be one of the biggest things that they're going to struggle with is how do we combat losing votes with the price of fuel being so high, and they're going to do that through manipulation.
[00:12:57] So you might see that price come down over the next month and a half. That way it will look better on the Republican side of things. But, again, if we can manipulate things down in a month and a half, what can't you manipulate at that point and make things look good for the midterms for the Republicans? So I see this coming down a little bit more.
[00:13:20] I see the prices being lessened just due to you can't have a strong Republican midterm without reducing the price of something that everyone sees every day. And the problem is, again, if the prices are reduced, you just get to some degree more government meddling, and that becomes a problem in and of itself, Kurt. Well, that's a great point, Sam.
[00:13:46] And one thing, just a little footnote on Heath's comments about the IRS and the 16th Amendment. You know, we have in the Liberty Roundtable bookstore the book called The Law That Never Was, Volume 1 and 2 available. You'll find them on eBay for like $300, but we can sell them to you for about a tenth of that.
[00:14:12] And, you know, these are guys that literally went state to state and proved, they've got the docs right there, that that amendment, the 16th Amendment, was never ratified properly. Hey, Kurt, don't bother me with the facts. I've got my mind all made up. I know. Great point, Sam. I mean, that's really what's going on here. And, you know, maybe we need an appointment with President Donald Trump to sit down and show him this.
[00:14:41] Well, I mean, yeah, he could tune in and we'd just give him the update, right? Kurt would be like, hey, why don't you sample some of this honey while I show you this book, you know? Well, and, you know, you mentioned the honey at the early part of this program, and I want to add just a little something, and I appreciate your comments about it. But one of the things people don't understand, you know, on the whole raw honey thing,
[00:15:07] like if you want to understand the difference between raw honey and your standard honey that's been cooked, just imagine you've got a nice fresh apple, and then you've got one that's baked or cooked. You're going to lose a lot of the taste, and that's what happens. The other thing to remember is that these beekeepers with huge amounts of hives like we deal with,
[00:15:34] they typically will put their honey in these big 50-gallon drums, Sam. And so when they go to sell it, not too many people want to buy a 50-gallon drum of honey. And so they take these... Yeah, that's right. It's hard to put in your cabinet, you know what I mean? They take these big 50-gallon drums, truckload of them, 30, 50 of them on a big truck, to the big honey companies. Those guys dump it all together and cook it,
[00:16:04] and you never get to taste those individual little tastes like we offer. So that's why some people sit there and they're so amazed that there is this thing because they've never tried them in their whole lives, you know? And that's why we talk about the local honey, man, because when you get those hives local wherever you get them from, and you get them from different places in the country, then you get those different unique tastes and everything else. It's fascinating.
[00:16:33] We'll keep a running honey report for you on this, too, because there's a lot of health benefits, too. Hopefully we can get Kurt Crosby to do a little honey report on the show, too, and when he comes on, he'll do a little honey update about the health benefits or some of the features and some of the things that you should know or a special he's got on honey. We can start kind of a series like that as well, and then you can get honey and money. And speaking of money, midterm elections, ladies and gentlemen... Save money and eat money. ...includes at least a billion dollars in undisclosed money.
[00:17:02] That's for the midterms alone. Yeah, the Washington Post reported that a New York Times analysis finding at least a billion dollars, folks, in dark money spent during the primaries alone. Such spending flows through organizations that do not disclose their funding. The report also documented substantial election spending by artificial intelligence,
[00:17:30] or AI, I guess I should say SI, super cryptocurrency companies, or AI companies, along with cryptos. So crypto, AI, everybody getting in on the game, spending gazillions of dollars on elections, and no one knows who they are or how much they're spending. Well, you and I are ratcheted down because we want to have honest elections here. Oh, yeah. No, it's always been the thing that I've thought about. So if I had all the money in the world, let's say I had 52 homes,
[00:17:58] I got to live in one home every week, you know, what more would you want? And at that point, as a billionaire, what do billionaires want? They want people to think like they do. And so they want to buy influence after you have everything you've ever wanted. And that's just the natural mentality of individuals who are in power. They want to buy people's influence to think the same way they do. And so you have this extra funds.
[00:18:28] I mean, for them, it's just interest in their banks, bank accounts, that they're throwing towards this. It's not like they're actually spending or depleting any of their funds. And most political donations are tax write-offs anyway. So it's just ridiculous. But, yeah, like people want to buy influence. And whether that's because they have a pet project they want to have,
[00:18:55] maintain its trajectory as being passed through this or that or whatever it is, and these are the individuals who are going to help them do that, so they're going to fund those individuals. It all comes down to eventually power corrupts absolutely. And the easiest way to wield power in this world is to have a lot of wealth. That's the term funny money, ladies and gentlemen. There you have it. Now, Heath wonders what it would be like if he was super rich and had a house everywhere.
[00:19:23] But Beyonce asked a question. She goes, what if I were a boy? If I were a boy, even just for a day, I'd roll out of bed in the morning, throw on whatever I wanted, and just go, she says. Anyway, big, long story. But the reason I bring this up is because there's a lot of transgender lies, as you know, and a lot of gay and lesbian agenda. They want you to believe everybody's either transgender, gay, lesbian, this, that.
[00:19:50] But there's a new report out saying that the gay, lesbian, bisexual identification with certain genders is in free fall. People just simply identify with what they are. You know, a male is a man. You know, and you talk about science, chromosomes, and everything else. But they say people are starting to realize that and all this weird identification stuff is falling. It's in free fall. And they want to know why, Kurt. The scientists can't figure out why. And I've got an answer. But let's hear what you say first, Kurt.
[00:20:20] How come? Because it's such a stupid thing that ever even happened. That's why I say, you know. I don't disagree. Heath, do you want to stab at this one? Oh, yeah, of course. My thing has always been, I've told all my nephews and nieces, all my family, that I will not lie to them. And for me to tell, because I've got a few in the family that have been going this route.
[00:20:46] And so for me to be honest with them and say, hey, I cannot support you in this direction because the reality of this direction for transgender is that it leads to a 50% suicide rate. Regardless if they actually make the sex change or not. And so I can't support something that's going to lead you to a coin toss on committing suicide. Like, I will not lie to you.
[00:21:16] You know, I'm not going to allow you to be lied to by me because that's just not me. I'm not going to do it. And so you are what you are. That's the reality of it. I'm not going to lie to you and make you feel better about your choice to do these things because the end of that path is 50% suicide. That's a mental illness. And the struggle is people don't want to see it that way. But that's the end result.
[00:21:42] You want to support someone who's going down that and leading down that path. You're literally supporting someone to have a coin toss whether or not they're going to commit suicide. Like, I can't do that. And I told all my nephews and nieces and my family, I was like, I can't support that as the end result. Because you have a better chance of me being straightforward and not lying to you and keeping things in the real. Because you have a better chance of not committing suicide.
[00:22:11] And that's, for me, that's the end result. Like, I need to make sure you stay away from that 50% as much as possible when it comes to you living or not. And I'm going to give you my reason. I think you guys are both right on the facts. I accept both of your answers as part of my answer because it's truth. And let's just see if I can add on to it. You know, President Trump has really single-handedly exposed a lot of this lie. Okay? The President of the United States has come out and said, listen, we're not going to fund this transgender stuff. It's weird. It's bogus. It's insane.
[00:22:41] Nobody believes it. We're not doing it. And Trump has stood up pretty bold about this. And I'm not saying that he's as strong as I might be on the topic. But I am saying, when have you seen a president point out the truth on this? Never until President Trump. And he says, look, all this stuff is just absolutely perverted propaganda. And it's, you know, perpetuated by the government and by all society. And it's going to stop. Whether it's this DEI stuff, which is really of the same language. Whether it's the gay and lesbian thing. Whether it's transgender.
[00:23:11] Whether it's perverted, you know, mutilization of people's, you know, bodies. It's going to stop. And we've got to give Trump a bunch of credit for that. Now, a lot of us have helped carry the ball for sure. But he's kind of the biggest, most influential figure to bust that bubble and tell the truth. Kurt, he really is. Well, couldn't agree more, Sam. And just a quick little tidbit in the new media taking center stage section.
[00:23:37] Looks like Joe Rogan just signed a $250 million deal with Spotify for three years. New media taking center stage, Sam. I don't even get to make $100,000 doing it. Yep. Don't worry about it. Keep doing the best you can. We'll tell the tale of truth everywhere we go, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, Heath Perkins over at FreeWaterCoinCo.com. Ladies and gentlemen, the money man has got ways for you to have real assets in your portfolio.
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