[00:00:04] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West. You are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have so many stories it's not even funny. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans, the raid at Omar's house. We'll talk about that.
[00:00:31] We're going to talk about the Army enforcing the Rio Grande Valley. Did you know the Army's on the border on our side and the Mexican Army's on the border on the other side? Because of the cartel activity out of control? You ain't heard much about that in the news, have you? How about a Vectis Global? Do you remember the name Erik Prince? Does that ring a bell? We'll talk about that, too. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans. I'm Sam Bushman, Lance Miliacho with me, one of the Big Mig Brothers, the BigMig.com.
[00:00:59] And they're everywhere on video, and they do a radio show on the weekend for us at Liberty News Radio. If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they don't want to hear. Hi, Lance. Hey, good morning, Sam. Happy to be here, as always. Excited. Lots going on. You're right. It's really interesting, the news cycle right now. The news cycle's interesting, and half of what we've got really hasn't even talked about in the mainstream press. They just have goofy stories. And they're probably doing that intentionally to cover up these real stories.
[00:01:29] Eric Prince back in the news. Should we start there, Lance? Yeah, I don't see why not. You know, there's a lot of activity that people don't know anything about. And, of course, Eric Prince has always been at the center, as are many government contracting companies. United Defense, Halliburton, Sabre, G4S. You know, for the audience, I worked as a government contractor years ago. I was deployed into 41 different countries. I was never in the military. I came in through the back door of military contracting.
[00:01:56] And then I was actually training special forces operators and security, people that did diplomatic security and facility security and hand-to-hand combat, close quarters battle techniques, knife fighting, you name it. Disarms. Did a lot of that. And I'd always been in a gun culture as a child. So I learned to shoot very early. And that's kind of how I came in. But this one's really interesting. And I don't know what to think about it.
[00:02:22] Just so everybody understands, before we let you roll on this thing, Lance, Eric Prince, just so everybody knows, that's kind of the Blackwater guy of yesteryear, right? Yeah, he had Blackwater USA, then Blackwater. It became Academy later on. And he sold it. But he's always had his toe in the water. Because he had so many connections, of course, when his non-competition agreement was clear, he started doing more government contracts. He's never really stopped.
[00:02:49] He worked on a project called Unplugged on a phone that's fully encrypted that he's been working with. And that's going very well. We know Eric. He's been on our show a couple of times. Good guy. I tried to reach him about this story, but I'm sure he's under fire. So it doesn't surprise me he didn't get back to me. But this one's interesting. It's hard to talk. It's hard to talk when these things are being investigated and looked at and covered up and manipulated all at once. So tell everybody who Vecta Global is really quick, and then we'll get into the story.
[00:03:19] Yeah. So basically, they're an independent contractor company. They supply diplomatic security, facility security, you name it. They pretty much do it all. They use a lot of ex-special forces. Not all of them are U.S. special forces. Some of them come from other countries. Some of them come from the Five Eyes countries like Australia, New Zealand, the U.K. But they also use, you know, Romanian, you know, mercenaries. You know, some people call them mercenaries.
[00:03:47] But again, these are government contractors. They're actually working under things like Title 50 here in the United States where they can deploy into zones. A lot of it's done for deniable accountability when it comes to government contracting. I think you do a lot of off-the-books kind of work. And then, of course, there's standard work like, you know, doing security for oil companies, mineral companies. And in this case, it's interesting because this is tied into cobalt and rare earth minerals. So on September 17th.
[00:04:16] And that's the big deal that all you really heard about right now is that China controls it all. And we're begging China for details. But the reality is behind the scenes, there's a lot of work and exploration and efforts beyond China for this to try to make sure that we're not, you know, behest to the communists, right? Yeah, and China is a difficult situation. And really the thing about China is that rare earth mineral processing, they do about 82% of all global rare earth mineral processing.
[00:04:44] And that's a real big mistake the U.S. has made. So even when we mine rare earth minerals or rare earth minerals are being mined in other parts of the world. To refine. Yeah, they're being sent to China. And that's the ugly part of it. The U.S. ought to really double down on that. But Congress can't even, you know, get the Clarity Act or pass the daylight savings. Well, Congress is so dysfunctional now they've gone to private contractors for this. And that's where the story begins, Lance. Yeah.
[00:05:10] So September 17th, you know, Vectus Global, this was a team working for Airprings. They were ambushed in the south Kivu Highlands of eastern Congo. About 20 people were killed. Most of those look to be Congolese special forces. And interestingly enough, there's a former NZSAS operator. New Zealand SAS operator named Justice Kongolin. And he was killed. And then here's the big one. Here's the one that really hit the news.
[00:05:40] Former Green Beret. And of course, you know him from the UFC. Tim Kennedy. Now, he took three rounds in the leg. He was lucky enough to survive. My understanding is it took 17 hours to evac these guys. But of course. Which that alone deserves an investigation. You know, and because of where they put Kennedy for his medical. There's a lot of questions here. We're going to get into that here in a minute.
[00:06:09] But, you know, listen. All of a sudden, they pulled back the curtain on Prince's expanding private operation in this mineral-rich war zone, of course. Now, the U.S. government is taking a very narrow stance. They've only, you know, confirmed one narrow fact. And they declined to answer almost everything else. They've been questioned by the reporters. But nobody is giving up the meat, Sam.
[00:06:38] And, of course, online speculation is on fire, brother. Well, and so the question becomes, you know, at first we hear all these contractors are the bad guys. Hey, they're mercenaries off record, just killing everybody, anything else. Folks, that's the extreme part of the story. The reality is that we use these contractors for dirty business that we don't really want to touch as a country. Things that we don't want to come out in the open. And in this case, we're talking about rare minerals because we don't want to be under the thumb of China.
[00:07:06] I mean, you remember the Rolling Stones song, under my thumb. They don't want that to be the deal. And so this, you know, is honorable on the front side of this thing. And the real question comes down to why is the government not talking? Why are they taking such a narrow look at this thing? We have basically a Vectus Global, literally a bloody Congo op going on is what's happening. And the question becomes the details get murky fast. Who was involved?
[00:07:35] What was their mission? Why are they there? Some of these people are dead. Why? This guy makes it out alive, Tim. But yet he's in a very unique situation at Walter Reed. How does he get there? You don't just get there for no reason unless there's more ties than they're admitting as the problem lands. Yeah. And that's where the real disparity comes between Title 10 and Title 50. Of course, Title 50 is what they use to deploy these military contractors.
[00:08:03] And Title 10 is for real kinetic, you know, regular military action like declaring war. Let's play this clip. Let's play it immediately, too. And that'll give the audience a little bit of background. To a source which I have not disclosed on my own channel, this is it. This is the first time I'm talking about it. From what I understand is that they were involved in a ground clearance operation doing forward observation, coordinating drone strikes against hostile positions.
[00:08:33] And during the operation, their position was allegedly overrun by enemy fighters, leaving all three men wounded. And what happens next is pretty f***ed up. The source describes a second assault against an already wounded team. Conalguin was reportedly coordinating additional support when he sustained another gunshot wound, described as almost immediately fatal.
[00:09:00] Kennedy allegedly suffered a gunshot wound to the femur and applied a tourniquet to himself. And the account also describes Conalguin carrying two tourniquets on one arm, suggesting that both men had sustained serious extremity issues. The fate of the third contractor, we do not know at this time. The broader battlefield conditions, you know, are well documented. What do you think is going to happen now?
[00:09:27] Do you think because this Tim Kennedy thing, because he's Tim Kennedy and because now Eric Prince's name is kind of like, wait, what's Eric doing over there? Do you think this is going to change anything or no? I don't know if it's going to change anything, but the situation itself is deteriorating rapidly from what I understand. The bottom line is this went military folks, though, and it turns out that there's fighting here.
[00:09:53] And so what we've got is we've got independent contractors somehow involved with the government. Don't know how in these mineral zones trying to get separate information from the communist Chinese. But then it goes into fighting. And this isn't part of any war we hear about, at least that we know of. Right. Or is this really part of a war we're aware of, but not getting facts related to Lance?
[00:10:21] Yeah. So I want to give the audience this. I learned about this almost three weeks ago and I wasn't really allowed to talk about it. An ex Delta Force sniper friend of mine called me and he knew I knew Eric. He knew I'd worked for Blackwater USA and he contacted me and wanted to see if I could find out some additional details. I won't go into what he asked me to look for. But the bottom line is, is that I and I won't give that source up for a number of reasons.
[00:10:49] I know a lot of guys that are still doing government contracting work in different parts of Asia and all over the globe. Yeah. So this is interesting because Tim Kennedy did get sent or medical to a U.S. military base. And I'm understanding the evac might very well have been U.S. supported. Now, that's interesting in itself. And these and let me say this. M23 is no joke. They're the real deal. These guys are well armed and they're serious.
[00:11:17] You know, we've got a clip for that that we can play here. Media four. But these guys are this are a serious operation. Yeah, they're a serious operation. And, you know, of course, Eric and Kennedy were working for the Congo government. Let's play a clip about M23. Let's hear a little bit about them. The rebels in the Congo who shot Tim Kennedy, who is M23, what do they want and with what means do they have to achieve their strategic objectives?
[00:11:46] War tourist briefs. Let's check them out. M23 is a rebel movement operating in eastern Congo. But calling it simply a rebel group now feels like an understatement. It's a real army. Its roots go back through several earlier armed movements, formed largely around Congolese Tutsi communities in the east. Now, that name sounds familiar, Tutsi. If you've seen Hotel Rwanda, you might understand some of their grievances in that region.
[00:12:15] M23 itself emerged in 2012 after former rebels who had been integrated into the Congolese army accused the government of failing to honor a 2009 peace agreement. At the center of the movement is a familiar set of grievances. Protection of the Congolese Tutsi communities, the return of refugees, hostility towards armed groups linked historically to the aftermath of the Rwandan genocide, and deep opposition to the government in Kinshasa.
[00:12:45] But its objectives have expanded. Today, M23 operates inside a broader political coalition called the AFC, which presents itself as a national opposition movement rather than simply an ethnic insurgency. Its leaders have discussed federalism, greater autonomy for eastern Congo, and at times replacing the government in Kinshasa entirely. Militarily, M23 has something most rebel movements do not,
[00:13:12] the backing of a capable neighboring state, Rwanda. United Nations investigators have repeatedly documented extensive support from Rwanda, including troops, logistics, intelligence, training, weapons, drones, electronic warfare, and air defense systems. M23 also controls valuable territory, including major cities, trade routes, and mineral-producing areas. In some of those zones, it taxes production and commerce,
[00:13:39] helping finance both the war and the administration behind it. And this is where the counterinsurgency theory becomes important. A rebel movement enters a different category once it can do more than fight. M23 appoints administrators, collects taxes, regulates commerce, runs security structures, and controls roads and border crossings. That does not make its rule legitimate or benign. There are extensive allegations of forced recruitment, detention, killings, and other abuses.
[00:14:08] But the ability to govern territory is one of the clearest markers of insurgent maturity. We saw this with the Taliban. M23 is no longer. All right, so there you go. The bottom line is this thing, the plot thickens, though. They go in for what? Peaceful means? And they end up in a war zone? Is that what happened, Lance? You know, I don't know if I want to call it peaceful. They were using drone surveillance,
[00:14:31] and I believe it was to get early detection for strikes against M23. But M23 has good counter drone surveillance, and they actually tracked the drone signal that Prince's team was using, and that's how they located this government contractor group. And that's how they were able to ambush them, because they were aware of where they were at because of their drone signals.
[00:14:59] You know, drone warfare, anybody that's paying attention in Ukraine or anywhere else, has really changed. We're seeing it in the Middle East. Now we're seeing it in the Congo. This is a whole new playing field. But I got a hold of a text message that Kennedy sent as kind of a confirmation. So it doesn't have his phone number. That's been blotted out, of course. But maybe they'll throw up the text message. So this is where I'm questioning whether there was U.S. involvement.
[00:15:26] So there's no justification to air evac, Tim Kennedy, to Walter Reed. And you have to understand about the eligibility of using military, you know, infrastructure or somebody that allegedly is only a private contractor. Now, there's no contracts, right? Yeah, because, again, Title 10 would allow that. This is a Title 50 potential operation, which is CIA.
[00:15:55] And if there's no contracts, then how did the United States get involved in the extraction and or the moving him to Walter Reed? And we go on and on. And so what's happening here is we're being punked as to the details. And people are basically dead and people are seriously, you know, wounded. And the bottom line is the government's basically narrowly admitting something, but yet leaving so much off the table that we don't have a good handle on this. Folks are prevented from talking. So we don't really know the status, but we know this.
[00:16:24] If he's at Walter Reed and if they were involved in an extraction, the question is how and why if there's no contracts. And if we're playing games with Title 50 or Title 10, has the law been broken is the next question, right? Yeah. And I've got a picture. I got a hold of this x-ray at Walter Reed of the femur. You can see that it's broken. We can throw that up. That's just a quick shot. So and this came right from a source at Walter Reed. So I know this is a fact.
[00:16:52] So the State Department has acknowledged it says it holds no contracts with Eric Prince in the Congo. They don't go into any details or anywhere else, but just the Congo. But the medical care, and of course, Tim Kennedy, his National Guard affiliation, got to bring that Title 10 and 50 into question. You got to wonder, was this an operation being run by one of our intelligence organizations?
[00:17:17] This was a $65 million contract with Eric Prince with the Congolese government. It was an aviation package. It included a lot of different things. There were, of course, Colombian contractors who were killed in a separate clash that were working for Prince. There was nobody linked to the U.S. in that operation. But, you know, the details are cloudy. You look at the ambush. You got 20 killed or wounded. You got Tim Kennedy getting evac'd.
[00:17:45] You've got this New Zealand SAS, you know, well-known guy, Justin Coniglin, who's dead. And we've got a picture. You got other people that died, too, though, right? There's like 20 people that died. Yeah, that's actually showing part of the operation where they were using drones there. But there's a picture of Congolese if you look at Media 7. So is Media 7 a video? No, it's just an image. Okay, so look at that. And while we're looking at that, though, I just want to make this point.
[00:18:15] So what we've got is some weird international global deal. Contracts might be with foreign governments, which we're not, quote, privy to because it's a private contractor in foreign governments. The United States might be involved somehow but not admitting it and somehow on the back channel. When the crap hits the fan, there's some activity for responsibility there. But yet we can't connect the dots is the problem. A bunch of people are dead. What we did was we went in to try to surveil, find out what's going on, and we got punked and caught surveilling. And that's how this went down.
[00:18:44] And it basically turned hot fast, right? Yeah. So far, that's what we kind of know. And we've got Israeli advisors involved. They were training Congolese special forces battalions on day and night operations. That's why we don't know. Well, the Israelis were working with the drone team. So the Israelis work on the Prince's drone team.
[00:19:08] You've got, you know, there's a bunch of personnel from Eric Prince that have been confirmed during country, 100 of them. And then you've got the contract total is upwards of maybe 700 million. That 65 million was just this part of the operation. So the U.N. has even acknowledged, which is unusual for them, that there was covert military components involved in this. So who were the covert military?
[00:19:36] Benjamin making a deal with Eric Prince of the United States being kind of on the hook because, hey, every way you look at it, we have to back Israel. And somehow this thing went hot, and therefore now they're scrambling to make sure we can't connect the dots. Is that what's going on? You know, it's, you know, walks like a duck, talks like a duck. It's a duck, Sam.
[00:19:53] And I have to say, you know, the president is not allowed to authorize covert action unless he determines it's necessary to support, you know, identifiable foreign policy objectives and important to national security. And that's where the rubber meets the road when Congress doesn't make decisions. And when a lot of this happens, it's very hard to take responsibility there. But yet at the same time, you can't let Tim die, right? No.
[00:20:22] And the fact, what's interesting about the evac is the report that I've gotten from people. One individual was actually on the ground. 16 to 17 hour evac. That is not. And again, that's because you don't know how to handle it partly, right? I assume it's because somehow Prince probably had evac set up in advance because he does operate like that. I know that for a fact. He's always got evac available. Something must have happened.
[00:20:50] Maybe the people that promised the evac when the when the event went upside down were doing a Benghazi. Maybe they weren't sure whether or not they could acknowledge that they were there and what they were doing. And of course, you know, Kennedy has this residual National Guard status. That would give him medical eligibility to be at Walter Reed. But since it wasn't a National Guard event and it was contracts. Yeah.
[00:21:20] You know, there's a lot going on here, Sam. And a lot of people online are trying to connect the dots, myself included. I've called a couple of people that are in the know. But everybody's I got to say this, man. So far, everybody's really being closed mouth about what may be really happening. Because this hold on. This could change the game before the elections. If too much of this gets out where Trump will get caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Right. Yeah.
[00:21:47] And look, the people online and you're right about what you just said. You know, say there's zero chance that Prince is operating without direct U.S. government or CIA authorization or direction. Or a lot of people are saying that he's a CIA operating. Hold on. Or some weird deal with Benjamin Netanyahu. And all the transparency is supposedly there. But yet we can't get access to it because it's foreign.
[00:22:14] And Donald and Ben are kind of working together in some weird way that gets exposed without proper channels or without following 50 or 10 or et cetera, et cetera. On our side. And so then what does that mean? You know, here's the unresolved. Let me say this because I think we're both we're both thinking the same things. There's no official, you know, full casualty list for any government. There's no definitive public identification of the attackers. Right.
[00:22:39] There's no detailed after action account from Vectis, no statements from Prince or any Congolese authorities that are saying exactly what this was. There's no clear, you know, defined public explanation of the medical and financial pathway, which I believe includes that evac that put Kennedy at Walter Reed. All of a sudden, the event happens. And the next thing we hear is that Kennedy's at Walter Reed. And there seems to be a real limited public detail on coordination between Prince's team.
[00:23:09] He's I'm going to do air quotes Israeli advisors and the Congolese special forces. So, you know, I got to ask this to does the name have anything to do with any of this? You know, I don't know, but it's kind of weird. You know, Tim Kennedy's a well-known UFC guy. He did come under fire for supposedly some stolen valor stuff that I don't think was credible. I think they were just attacking him because this guy does have a Green Beret background.
[00:23:39] But look, Title 10 is the thing that covers regular military operations under the Department of Defense. Title 50 covers the intelligence activities and government contractors and covert action section. You know, listen, the White House is awfully quiet about this. And Title 666 is the underground title. I'm just kidding. It's just a joke, folks. It's very, very strange indeed.
[00:24:04] The bottom line is people want answers because when people die and people are injured and we're trying to keep them from dying, especially when they're American citizens, then you got to kind of start to go, hey, this matters more than we think it does. How much is really going on? We the people deserve at some point to know. Right. And the problem is they're not going to let this happen until after the midterms, at least. I can promise you that. We'll get no more transparency, tragically so. Lance Miliacho, the Big Mig.
[00:24:33] He does a radio show for us every weekend. And he's everywhere on X and Truth Social and YouTube and everywhere with his buddy George Valentin, thebigmig.com. God save our constitutional republic.