[00:00:04] Broadcasting live from atop the Rocky Mountains, the crossroads of the West, you are listening to the Liberty Roundtable Radio Talk Show. Brigham Young University has an incredible and historic upset, to say the least. Are you an informed voter? Don't vote unless you know what you're doing. And the only way to fight government corruption. Happy to have you along, my fellow Americans.
[00:00:32] I'm Sam Bushman. Hard-hitting news the networks refuse to use, no doubt, starts now. Hope you had a delightful weekend, ladies and gentlemen. I know I did, full of God, family, and country. Lil Nelson, CampaignForLiberty.org is with us. Welcome back to the show, sir. I heard you played some great basketball last week. Did you guys win? Well, we won a few games, lost a few games down there at the Huntsman Senior Games there in St. George area.
[00:00:57] But it's a ton of fun. Great way to get great exercise and have fun at the same time. All right. You got to dig it. Lowell keeps exercising, and that way he'll live a long life. He eats healthy and everything else, so he can fight for liberty a lot longer on this great green earth our Father in Heaven has given us in the greatest country on the face of the earth. So there's so much to cover, so little time. Brigham Young University had an incredible historic upset, sir.
[00:01:23] Well, they played Notre Dame men's football there. Both were ranked teams. Notre Dame was ranked number two in the country, and BYU was ranked number eight. That was last Saturday, just two days ago, and boy, Cougar Nation turned out for that game, filled the stadium. It was loud, raucous. I wasn't there in person, but I listened to it on the radio, and boy, was it amazing.
[00:01:49] It upset them 28-24, so BYU moved up in the rankings, and I think the other coach was very complimentary, by the way. In a post-game interview, he said, you know what? I don't think the refs won it for us or lost it for us. I think trying to depend on the last play of the game, there was a little bit of controversy on that last play of the game. So maybe there might have been pass interference.
[00:02:16] Yeah, some people said there might have been some flags, but they didn't throw any. Mm-hmm. They didn't throw it, but they said, you know, we lost the game long before the last play of the game. We should have won it more far, you know. We should have won that game. You know, you don't wait and depend on the refs to call the game for you. You have to win the game. You have to go and win the game. Anyway, I also under this illusion that the last play calls the game. You didn't do well. You lost it for us.
[00:02:46] And a game is 60 minutes, folks. It's not 30 seconds at the end based on, you know, whistles and calls and, you know, hey, someone didn't touch the ball perfect or someone didn't deliver this or do that or whatever else. The bottom line is a nail-biter for everybody. It was an incredible game. Everybody had a lot of fun. Tickets were incredibly expensive because of the historic rivalry, right? Tickets were expensive. Yeah, the last time I was in the stadium when we beat a ranked team, I think, was in Miami in 1990 or something when Ty Detmer was playing.
[00:03:16] And they were the number one team from the previous year. And BYU played them here at home. I was in the south end zone. My wife and I were in the south end zone. And that was a fantastic upset there. That was a fun game, too. So this one was on par with that one. Very, very, a lot on the line. And it's just great. You know, both teams were power-packed. They both played solid defense. They both played solid offense.
[00:03:44] I mean, it was just well-coached, well-played teams. Both of them played really well. Neither team has anything to be sorry about. Amen. They both played a great game. They both great religious institutions and, you know, the Catholics and the Mormons are the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have had a long-time history of working together and having tremendous respect for one another and everything else. So remember, ladies and gentlemen, it was just a game.
[00:04:12] And remember that, you know, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. That's how it is. And, you know, speaking of politics, that's kind of what we seem to be entering in terms of politics. You've got the big midterms coming up. And Ron Paul writes, the only way to fight government corruption. Ron Paul, with an incredible insight. I think there's more ways to fight than just one, but he's got a valid point. Lowell? Yeah, that's what I was thinking, Sam. There's obvious several ways to fight government corruption,
[00:04:40] but his solution is a good one. He first cites three examples of government corruption, talking about Kimberly Guilfoyle, who's the U.S. ambassador to Greece, reportedly arranged some pretty sweet business deals for a, quote, for a wealthy Greek businessman who was coincidentally funding her supposedly lavish lifestyle in Greece, end of quote. Well, the second example he gave was David Milstein,
[00:05:09] who is the U.S. ambassador to Israel, who reportedly solicited monetary wedding gifts from Israeli citizens and was also involved in the suppression or the falsification of embassy reporting that was critical of Israel. Third example he gave was of Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik, who is reported to have doubled his net worth while in office. And President Trump has supposedly made over $2 billion
[00:05:36] in the first year of his second term in office from what other than sketchy business deals, including military deals? Now, I don't know if I believe all those stories. They always come out in October, Sam, just prior to the elections. The other party saves them up, I think, so they can disclose them in October, hoping to dissuade voters from voting for the incumbent party. It happens every two years. You can count on it. October surprises.
[00:06:06] They're always out there. But anyway, it's probably true that there is a lot of government corruption. I do believe that. And Dr. Paul says there is a, you know, while there's a lot of concern on the right about socialism, and rightly so, but there's not a lot of concern about corporatism, which is the merger of state power with private interests, these public-private partnerships, in other words. And so it's right smack in the middle of his column.
[00:06:36] Dr. Paul tells us what is really happening. Quote, rich Greek businessmen are not lavishing gifts on Ambassador Guilfoyle because she's a nice person. They are looking for favors that only those holding the levers of political power can grant. End of quote. So that's what's really happening, you know. There are very few individuals in public service, Sam, who are there for the right reasons.
[00:07:06] You know, people like Larry McDonald and Ron Paul and Thomas Massey are extremely rare. Such individuals do not view public service like a piggy bank, which is how most politicians view public service, by the way. They are there for their lusting for money and power, and they are there to make it rich, to make themselves rich, most of them, right? Now, so what really can we do to fight corruption in government?
[00:07:35] That's the question Dr. Paul is asking, and that's the one he's trying to answer. And he answers it this way. Quote, corrupt officials abuse their positions because the government is so enormous and invasive that there are endless opportunities for grafts and grift. If we are really seeking to end or reduce government corruption, we must return government to the size it was when this country was founded. Rather than waiting for a government of saints to lead the country,
[00:08:05] we must remove the incentives that tempt mere men and women to view elected and appointed office as an opportunity for personal and financial gain. End of quote. So, Sam, we here in Utah County have an opportunity to reduce the size of government this election season. The salary of a county commissioner in Utah County is about $170,000, which is up from $120,000 just a couple of years ago.
[00:08:36] Well, and the median household income in Utah County is only $100,000. In other words, Sam, members of the county commission are way overpaid. There are at least two candidates, one in seat A and one in seat B, who have promised to vote to reduce their own salaries if elected. So, if you live in Utah County, then please call each candidate for county commission
[00:09:04] and ask if he will vote to reduce his salary once, you know, if he gets elected. He or she, right? We do have some female candidates as well. So, call all of them and ask that question. Now, I happen to know, Sam, I know two candidates. I know who the two candidates are who have promised to vote to reduce their own salaries once they get elected. But I'm not going to tell you who they are. I want you to call and ask them. I want, you know, they need to know how important it is to the electorate.
[00:09:34] And they'll only know that if we call and ask them. So, please call them. Ask them. And then, you know, if they do get elected, hold them to it. Let's vote for candidates who will reduce the size of government and thus reduce, quote, the incentives that tempt mere men and women to view elected and appointed office as an opportunity for personal and financial gain, end of quote. That's our goal, Sam.
[00:10:03] We've got to get the right people elected. And we've got to reduce the size and the reach of local government and then beyond, you know, beyond local government, state government, county government, and even our general government. But you've got to start local. That's how we begin. That's how we fight corruption in politics. Sam? There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:10:28] I think it's really important to understand we need to literally hire, if you will. That means elect good, honest, wise servants of the republic. And that means they're not, you know, they're not partisan. They don't believe in party. They stand for principled government based on the supreme law of our land, the Constitution. I'm Sam Bushman. Lowell Nelson back with me in seconds, CampaignForLiberty.org.
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[00:12:35] Back with you live, ladies and gentlemen, Sam Bushman, Lowell Nelson. You know, voting is vital, and learning to vote for candidates that stand for principle is one thing. So you've got to learn to vet the candidates, etc. But there's two sides to the discussion. We have two more stories about voting and about our responsibilities in voting. And not only do we have to have good candidates, but we have to have educated voters. One even goes so far to say, if you don't know what you're doing, don't vote, Lowell. Yeah, that's my position, Sam.
[00:13:03] I mean, voting for somebody you don't know is probably worse than not voting. I mean, it's incumbent on us as responsible citizens to become informed so that we can cast an informed vote. But if you find yourself in a position where you haven't been able to study the candidates, like looking at their voting records and looking at their campaign literature and talking with them, asking them questions, hearing them answer various questions, if you haven't done that, you don't really know the candidate.
[00:13:33] And if that's the case, then don't vote. I mean, that's my recommendation. And Gary Benoit there at the New American Magazine has this article, which is very, very good. And he's the one who says don't vote unless you know what you're doing. I totally agree. It's kind of like driving a car. I mean, if you buy a new Lamborghini, you're going to let your 16-year-old son take the car out for a spin, you know, without teaching how to drive responsibly? Well, of course not.
[00:14:03] You're not going to do that. You're going to do that.
[00:14:38] Voters who are not well-informed can easily beguiled into voting away their freedoms. That's the way Gary puts it. And so, Sam, let me ask you the question. How many voters do you know who, you know, general election voters who actually examine the voting records of the incumbents, how many know the candidates, how the candidates feel about the relevant issues of the day?
[00:15:04] Like if they're a county commission candidate, do they know what's going on in the county? If they're a state rep, do they know what's going on in the state? And how do they feel about domestic issues, about the police powers, and about regulation and government intervention in the marketplace? You know, if they're a candidate for Congress, how do they feel about the president's exercise of authority he doesn't have?
[00:15:29] I mean, aren't these questions the important questions to know and have answers to before you go cast a vote? These questions are critical, ladies and gentlemen. And I would submit to you that about 3% really are in tune, know the answers, and are involved to the point that you point out, Lowell. And I think it's a tragic reality. And that's why America is sliding into the abyss. Ron Paul doesn't mention this, but I think one way we need to really get rid of these people that have a different agenda
[00:15:55] and, you know, get people that understand is we've got to jettison parties because what happens is you just say, oh, I'm a Republican, and so I vote for Republican candidates. Then you say, I don't really need to really worry about looking into them as long as I, you know, choose the Republican. I just, in my opinion, do a little bit of, you know, whoever I look, whoever's face I like on TV, I vote for in the primaries, and then I just vote for the only one I got against the other enemy guys. So, see, we get tricked into voting that way and think that we can absolve our responsibility that way, and it's false. It's not true.
[00:16:25] We need to really dig into the candidates and find out who really stands for what and who really understands the Supreme. We've got to really think about who would, if they were, if I were there, what would I do? And then I've got to find the person that would go there and do as close to what I would do as possible. That's what we really need. And then when we say what I would do, you've got to be informed to know what you would do, right? Yeah, absolutely right, Sam. You know, returning to Benoit's column, he says,
[00:16:50] Not enough Americans possess the understanding to recognize the signposts on the road to serfdom. Very interesting choice of words, though, the road to serfdom. And then he talks about several of these signposts. One such signpost is the growing welfare state, right? Too few people understand the government cannot give to the have-nots without taking from the people who have, right?
[00:17:16] So they take from the middle class, basically, and they give to the people who don't have anything. That's welfare. That's socialism. That's Marxism. It's criminal is what it is, because it's theft. Yeah, stealing. It is. And he points out another signpost. That's the warfare state. He says that not very many Americans understand that building a global empire to police the world, as opposed to using the military for its proper purpose of defending our country.
[00:17:46] That's also unsustainable over time. And that is a signpost. So if you've got a candidate for Congress who's all supportive of building this global empire to police the world and is willing to vote for more money to fund the war in Ukraine and the war in Gaza, the war in Iran and the war all around the world, that's the wrong person to put in there,
[00:18:14] because that's a signpost of a growing warfare state, which is bad, very bad. And the third signpost is the very fact that candidates for public office who openly run as democratic socialists, and they belong to the Democratic Socialists of America's party, the DSA, they are increasingly winning elections. And so that for sure is an obvious signpost.
[00:18:41] These are big signposts, folks, and we would do well to recognize them. So watch out for the people who support welfare. Watch out for the candidates who support warfare. Watch out for the candidates who are members of the Democratic Socialists of America. I mean, it's a party that's openly Marxist party. And so the left, they want lots of uninformed voters. Why? Well, because they can more easily be persuaded to vote for candidates who promise them goodies,
[00:19:11] meaning welfare, and who promise to keep them safe from the boogeyman of the day. Right? They're the ones who are easily persuaded that there's a boogeyman out there. We need, you know, to fight the war on terror. Or we need to fight the Reds back in the 1960s and 70s. We need to fight the Islamic terrorists. I mean, that's the current boogeyman, right?
[00:19:35] And so, Sam, we've got socialists who are running for seats on the state school board right here in Utah. We have socialists who are running for seats in Congress and for seats on the county commission, if you can believe it. And for the county clerk's office here in Utah, we've got socialists running for these seats. Some of them have an R by their name, meaning they're, you know, nominated by the Republican Party. Some of them have a D by their name, meaning for the Democrat Party.
[00:20:04] Well, my advice, Sam, is we need to avoid them, ignore them, reject their offers to serve, because they will simply just destroy what liberty we have left in their Marxist-socialist agenda. Sam? But Steve Vonta really points out what we need to do here. You know, how many voters really consult the New American Magazine's Freedom Index to see which ones stand with the Constitution?
[00:20:30] It's basically a running tally of how well they look at things, how well they kind of understand or whatever, and what their voting record looks like. And it's an ongoing total. And in my opinion, I'm not saying you should just look at that, and then that's the only thing you do. But that's a significant way to get a quick handle on where they stand, Lowell. Yeah, and the great thing about that Freedom Index, by the way, just in recent years, they have begun publishing an index on all state legislators,
[00:20:59] in addition to their index on all congressional legislators. So it used to be like 10 years ago, five years ago, the Freedom Index covered just the 535 people in Congress. Now they cover those 535 people as well as your legislators in your state. I mean, it's fantastic.
[00:21:22] You can go and look at the Freedom Index for Utah or for Alabama or for Alaska or for Iowa. I mean, they have them all in there. And it is a great bellwether, a great way to get a good bead on who's doing well in Congress, how they're voting, and who's not. So, I mean, we have a member of Congress from Utah who scored 56% on the Freedom Index. That's the low.
[00:21:51] We have somebody in Congress from Utah who has scored a 93% on that Freedom Index. And so there's the top and there's the bottom in Utah, and everybody else falls somewhere in between. So, ladies and gentlemen, go visit the New American magazine and see where your congressional public servants lie on that index. Thomas Massey had 100%, by the way, 99%. Amen to that.
[00:22:20] And then he got attacked by Trump and wrangled out of there by, in my opinion, foreign money combined with insider Republicans. But the well-informed voter, ladies and gentlemen, will understand the U.S. Constitution. They'll understand the doctrines of liberty associated with it. They'll have a sound appreciation of free market economics. They'll understand the importance of families. I mean, the whole purpose is individual liberty and family-focused reality.
[00:22:49] We need to understand freedom or liberty relates to our fellow man. And this column in the New American magazine is very good because it highlights what it really takes. And you bring up a point that Ezra Tab Benson made that I think is really important, too, former Secretary of Agriculture, because it's something that all of us can personally do. There's no party involved. There's no money. There's just dedication. Lowell? That's right.
[00:23:12] He said, and I'm paraphrasing him, but he said the most important contribution that you can make in the sacred cause of liberty is to raise a righteous family. So I think that's so important. And so I tip my hat, Sam, to all the good mothers and fathers out there who are raising righteous families. That is the most important thing you can do in this cause of liberty.
[00:23:36] And to the grandparents out there who are helping to raise their children and their grandchildren and to be righteous, you know, to serve and to love their fellow men. We love you. We appreciate you who are doing that. And we pray you will be valiant in this sacred cause of liberty. Sam? It takes getting involved, ladies and gentlemen. It takes a humble heart. It takes turning to God Almighty. It takes God, family, and country.
[00:24:05] And it takes protection of life, liberty, and poverty. The John Birch Society doing a phenomenal job. The New American.com for those articles. Or RonPaulInstitute.com. Campaign for Liberty is one of those organizations that you just got to join. They stand with free market principles. They stand with the supreme law of the land. Ron Paul and company doing a phenomenal job. Lowell Nelson, the coordinator. It was interim, but it's now permanent in my view. There he is. Lowell Nelson, thank you, sir.
[00:24:35] You're welcome, Sam. Thank you. He does a phenomenal job all the time, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Sam Bushman. God save our constitutional republic.