Episode 99 Hour of Decision: Eisenhower (6) Ike vs McCarthy, Pt. 2

Speaker 0: Look around you. Wrong rules the land while waiting justice sleeps. I saw in the congress and crossing the country, campaigning with Ron Paul. Tyranny rising, unspeakable evil, manifesting, devils lying about our heritage who want to enslave and replace us. But we are Americans with a manifest destiny to bring the new Jerusalem of endless possibilities. But first, this fight for freedom. Be a part of it. But don't delay because this is the hour of decision. Hour of decision with Lou Moore starts now. Welcome to the ninety ninth episode of hour of decision. My name is Lou Moore. And today, we are gonna continue now our series on Dwight David Eisenhower. This is the sixth episode in the series, and today will be part two about Ike's, epic battle with Joe McCarthy, the one and only senator Joe McCarthy, my hero. So we talk about Eisenhower's significance as a gatekeeper, somebody that was put in place to maintain the gains of the New Deal and maintain the gains of internationalism and of, dare I say, communism around the world. Ike was there to prosecute the doctrine of containment, not to roll back the communist effort around the globe, but just to keep them from swallowing any more countries, to keep the United Nations fully funded and moving forward on every front, on the education front, on the monetary front, on the judicial front, and in their general assembly, getting the world used to the idea of a big beautiful one world government. And then in addition, Ike's job was to prevent any significant rollback of the tremendous progress that the Fabian socialist project made, that project to gradually, in a Marxist context, gradually lead us to total government in America to make sure that the progress the New Deal made in that direction was not reversed because there was a populous outrage at the end of World War two. It was focused primarily overseas, but there was also a focus on the, horrid activities of unions, several thousand strikes in America, in the mid nineteen forties. The union seemed to be out of hand, seeming to be either under the control of organized crime or of the communists. So there was a reaction to that. Republicans took power briefly in 1946 in an off year in the house and the senate. But in 1948, the Democrats were able to regain the house and senate and keep Harry Truman, the successor to the New Deal, the successor to Franklin Delano Roosevelt in the White House. And all Truman could do was play defense, but he, did what he could to protect those individuals who had been working for Roosevelt, who were obviously communist. He he hid out payroll files and, personnel files in the White House so congressional investigators couldn't get at them. He continually defended Harry Dexter White, the architect of the, monetary project of Bretton Woods agreement, the World Monetary Project, not just involving The US, and, of course, the notorious Alger Hiss, who nonetheless was convicted of perjury for telling a court and telling, the United States Congress that he was not a communist spy when he was. So all these things were going on as well as the fact that the Soviet Union got the bomb that China, prevailed. The communist Chinese prevailed over the nationalist Chinese in 1949. The Soviets has swept into the Korean Peninsula, and, of course, pretty soon, that's gonna blow sky high into yet one more war. The first of our endless wars, the first war that had no clear objective for America and that we did not win. And, so this was a situation when Joe McCarthy came on the scene in 1950 with his famous speech in Wheeling, West Virginia, pointing out that a large number of identified communists identified by the FBI, identified by the internal security agencies of the state department and other agencies, and and identified by witnesses who worked with them, like Whitaker Chambers and Elizabeth Bentley, that these people were still in the government. Or if they weren't still in the federal government, they were given a cush job over there at the new United Nations or maybe at a tax free foundation like the Ford Foundation or the Rockefellers, or should I say it, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace where Alger Hiss was stationed as the president put in that job by John Foster Dulles, who would become Eisenhower's guru on foreign policy, supposedly a rabid anti communist. And on the board at the Carnegie Endowment, Philip Jessup, who Joe McCarthy zeroed in on as a communist age communist agent and a man himself, Dwight David Eisenhower. So all these things are swirling around. Robert Taft is running for president as an America first candidate, after 1950 running you know, heading to the nineteen fifty two presidential election, and the establishment is freaking out. So they need to insert a gatekeeper, somebody that will, as I said, maintain the gains of the new deal and maintain the gains of internationalism. And that man was the white David Eisenhower who won the election in '52. We covered all that ground. A little bit shaky there in terms of his actual affiliation as a Republican as well as his actual victory at the Republican convention in 1952. Little hanky panky going on there. So Eisenhower wins, brings Nixon into the government as his vice president, but at the same time, the senate, again, turns Republican. And guess who gets a committee? Joe McCarthy. Joe McCarthy who's been throwing bombs from the back as a backbencher as they call it in the US senate, throwing bombs at the Democrats about all these communists still in government, but not performing his own investigations, not really from any position of power. But, Eisenhower, was sent there to be a gatekeeper to derail Taft, and then I pointed out he also derailed the Bricker amendment. Once he became president, the amendment that would have to a degree guaranteed the sovereignty of The United States from foreign treaties as well as secret side agreements, like the ones FDR made with Stalin in the nineteen thirties that weren't even discovered until the late nineteen forties and nineteen fifties. The Bricker Amendment well on its way to passage, interest groups all over the country supporting it. AMA, the Rotary, the Bar Association, all these groups supporting this amendment, but Eisenhower lays in the weeds and gets it derailed. Then he derails the Reese Committee, which was, constituted by the new Republican majority in the house under former RNC chair Carol Reese, to investigate these tax free foundations that seem to have so many ties, both to socialist, propaganda in our schools, internationalist efforts in our government, but also seem to have a few ties to these communists we're supposed to be so much against after World War two. Eisenhower is able to derail the efforts of that committee. Laying in the weeds, he relayed in the weeds with a bricker amendment. He just got Taft quietly to delay the vote. Taft now a the leader in the senate got him to delay the vote on the Bricker Amendment when they had the votes to, you know, turn, twist some arms privately to make sure that that didn't pass. And he also laid in the weeds with the Reece Committee, actually working with some Democrats and working through Lyndon Baines Johnson, the minority leader at this time in the US Senate, a Democrat, to derail the Reece Committee efforts of on the tax free foundations. But the biggest target, Eisenhower's biggest target, by far, after Taft, after defeating Taft and preventing an America first, excuse me, candidate from becoming our president, his his next biggest target without any doubt was Joe McCarthy. And it wasn't just because McCarthy was alleging there were still communists in our government and that there were leaders like George Catlett Marshall, Eisenhower's best friend in the military, who were leading us down the path of surrender and submission or a minimum at convergence, with the communist. It it wasn't just that. It wasn't just that he was making these statements, but McCarthy had that populist charisma. Taft really didn't have it. Taft had the issues. Taft was a proven vote getter. We talked about how he won, union votes in Ohio and his senate election in 1950, but he didn't have that true populist charisma like Donald Trump has and like Joe McCarthy had. Joe McCarthy came out of nowhere and suddenly had millions. And we're talking millions of followers, folks. And until he was smeared by the, Eisenhower's final effort to get him, to get him, to neutralize him, if not remove him from the senate, McCarthy had a 50% approval rating in the public. And keep in mind, McCarthy is an Irish Catholic from a poor background. Democrats all over America related to Joe McCarthy. For god's sake, Joe Kennedy, the patriarch of the Kennedy clan, he related to Joe McCarthy very much and encouraged, his son Bobby, Robert f Kennedy senior, to join McCarthy's staff, which he did. And so McCarthy had an appeal that was unusual, that was appealing to the average American by the millions, and he was not pulling punches about our elites' malfeasance, if not their traitorous behavior in not routing the communist both overseas, but also within our own country, within our own culture, within our own government. So McCarthy was by far the biggest danger to the Fabian project that emerged in the nineteen fifties on the watch of Dwight David Eisenhower. And and so McCarthy, he takes his position as a chair of this committee. And before Eisenhower won, even moderate Republicans were defending McCarthy, defending, the vicious attacks on the part of the Democrats. Remember I told you in the last episode, you might not remember because it's been several weeks since we had part one of this, show about Ike and Joe McCarthy. But, the, McCarthy was continually under investigation just like Donald Trump. From the day McCarthy left the rostrum at the Wheeling, West Virginia Republican Women's Club with his first big speech on the communist, he was under investigation by the US Senate and by Democrat chairs. And I will have to point out again, talking about McCarthy's popularity, the first chairman that went after him, Miller Tidings, pulling all kinds of dirty tricks and chicanery and lying and partial evidence and selection of evidence bias, and every other tool that he picked and pulled out of the toolbox, he lost his own reelection that year, folks. He lost his own reelection as the number one foe, visible foe of Joe McCarthy in America. And then there was a senator from Connecticut after that named William Benton who led and forced two, committee hearings by the Gillette Committee, committee chaired by senator Gillette. Believe he was from Wyoming. But, the these committees, were the effort against McCarthy then was headed up by this senator, William Benton. Well, guess what happened to him in 1952 when he was running for reelection? He was defeated. So McCarthy watched, and really he didn't just watch. There were some activities behind the scenes. But McCarthy defeats. Not only do these people not bring him down, not only do they fail in finding any wrongdoing on the part of McCarthy, each one of these two committee chairs lose their jobs. They're taken out by the voters who did not like what they were doing to this man who had over 50% approval, who was giving a hardcore message to America about the dangers, not just of communism, but of the elite in this country that were willing to lower and lower and lower the standing, the power, the industrial might, the cultural strength of America to eventually merge it. They use the word at the time convergence into a one world government with the communist element that was now running wild all over the globe, including, takeover of all of Eastern Europe, a near takeover of several countries in Western Europe, and, of course, those countries mostly were now under in the control of Fabian socialist in Western Europe, not to mention the takeover of the largest country on earth, China, and the spread of communism into Vietnam, into Korea, into The Philippines, into Malaysia, into all these other countries over in Asia. So all this is going on, but Eisenhower, as you know, this is why it's a presidential series because Eisenhower won the presidency in '9, t fifty two as McCarthy, wins and the Republicans win control of the senate. McCarthy wins reelection in 1952 from Wisconsin. And so a collision course has now been set up because Ike personally cannot even though he was able to overcome for enough voters in the Republican ranks, the fact that he was prosecuting Franklin Roosevelt's policy that caused all these problems in Asia and caused all these problems in Europe. Eisenhower, from the military side, was the chief prosecutor, the chief initiator, implementer of these policies. He was the best friend, at one point, of the head of the Russian military, general Zhukov, under Stalin. His very best friend in the American military, general George Catlett Marshall, was the subject of Joe McCarthy's 60,000 word takedown on the floor of the US Senate that pulled no punches in calling, Marshall an accomplice to communist gains all over the globe. Ike is his best friend. He's working with him hand in glove, not just under Roosevelt, but as the joint chiefs of staff head when Marshall is first the, secretary of state and then the secretary of defense under Harry s Truman. And then there's all the other little problems that come along with that, which is the fact that Eisenhower wasn't a Republican, and Eleanor Roosevelt, and Walter Reuther of the, United Auto Workers, and all of these big time Democrats all wanted to run Eisenhower as a left wing Americans for Democratic action Democrat in 1948. All of these things Ike wants swept under the rug and not brought up again. He got past Taft, but now here is Joe McCarthy investigating communism, a no no. The internationalist, they do they want convergence as the policy, overseas really. They want containment to be the stated policy in this anti communist atmosphere, anti communist public sentiment that, where they couldn't be pro communist anymore, where they had to say they were anti communist. They wanted only containment, no attack, real attack on the communist movements overseas, and they wanted no investigation of communist at home because too many people too many people who would be caught up in that investigation, too many people the FBI was following around, Too many people that the Winona people in the army were wiretapping. Too many of these people aren't connected to the power elite of this nation, so they don't want that. But here's Joe McCarthy, and he stays out of Eisenhower's way as I said in the last episode. He's attacking Marshall, but Eisenhower's right there very involved with many of the things he attacks Marshall for. Doesn't say a word about Eisenhower. McCarthy knows. Again, he's smart. He's not this bull in the China closet people always accuse him of being. He's actually very restrained and reserved in much of what he does, and he knows very well. Once he finds out after in 1950, same year, he launched his crusade against communism, once he knows Eisenhower is going to run as a Republican for president, McCarthy tiptoes around Eisenhower. So Eisenhower tiptoed around McCarthy in 1952. He got Nixon out there sounding as much like McCarthy as humanly possible as the vice presidential candidate. And so he's tiptoeing around McCarthy, and McCarthy's tiptoeing around Ike. But now the election's over. Ike is the commander in chief, the most powerful man on Earth. And McCarthy has a committee, and he is investigating communist, And people are bringing him information about communism still existing, still acting, still a danger to our country that is located within the United States army, the entity that Eisenhower led, that Eisenhower made his whole career on. This is totally unacceptable for Eisenhower that McCarthy, who went after Marshall on the floor of the senate, who went after, the, Institute for Pacific Relations and Ike's buddy Philip Jessup, and the whole situation with these tax free foundations connected to communism. McCarthy's in there taking a few swings. McCarthy's going after Paul Hoffman indirectly, and we'll talk about that in a minute, who is one of Eisenhower's three principal the heads of his campaign for president, McCarthy cannot tolerate any investigation after all that of the United States Army by the Senate Oversight Committee, which is now being shared by Joe McCarthy. So collision course is now created. But, a general Lawton comes to McCarthy, a highly placed general, and says, our signal core is loaded with communists. The signal corps, where the codes are, a sensitive part of our military. And and to particularly at Fort Mammoth, New Jersey, there are communists being promoted that shouldn't even be there. Communists were recommended to be, separated from the service or being promoted. And, McCarthy's got a general coming to him saying, we gotta do something about this. And, of course, McCarthy wants to do something about these kinds of things anyway. So that's when the collision course is it certainly set at that point. All the makings of it existed even before Ike won, power won election as president, and McCarthy won a second term and won, committee chairmanship. But now the collision course is set. And so I mentioned, the the attack on McCarthy now starts taking, new dimensions. They're getting more sophisticated in their attack, and NGOs are rising up and supporting members of the senate who were taking shots at McCarthy, and they accused him of, appointing an anti protestant, staffer by the name of JB Matthews, who they accuse of, writing a article attacking Protestant ministers that, McCarthy would bring this terrible man, onto his staff at the oversight committee. Of course, JB Matthews actually was a Protestant minister. Oops. And JB Matthews was the principal expert before he became a minister on the popular front organizations that the communist heavily utilized in the nineteen thirties, a big piece of the puzzle of communist infiltration in America and into our government. McCarthy wants to bring him on the staff. But, this hubbub about this anti, anti protestant effort of McCarthy, a lie, is aided when Eisenhower makes a statement from the White House just simply saying, I don't think they should be attacking our protestant ministers. Boy, that's wrong. I'm not for that. I'm totally against that part. So, you know, he's trying to shove a knife in McCarthy without attacking him directly, the Eisenhower strategy always. But this, is leading to this confrontation. And then we have the, drafting of David Shine, which I mentioned in the last episode, a McCarthy staffer, an unfortunate member of the McCarthy staff, in my opinion, who is in a homosexual, sexual relationship almost certainly with McCarthy's staff chief of staff, chief of staff of his committee, Roy Cohn. And, Shine is drafted into the army, and so now McCarthy is going after the army. But this gives the opportunity for Eisenhower and his minions to go after McCarthy on behalf of the army. We will continue with this story on this show, which is called Hour of Decision, and we are on Liberty News Radio, and we'll be right back after the news. Welcome back to Hour of Decision. My name is Lou Moore, and we are talking about the titanic battle between president Dwight David Eisenhower and my hero, senator Joseph r McCarthy, Republican from Wisconsin. And so, the accumulation of charges against McCarthy, unfounded charges, but nonetheless, these unfounded accusations, were accumulating with effect. So talking about the media of the day, there was radio. Radio was like TV is today as far as the three major networks. And at that point, it was four, ABC, NBC, CBS, and the Mutual Broadcasting Corporation, were the four primary networks, all liberal, all internationalist. There were some newspapers in McCarthy's Corner, but the, leading ones were not. The New York Times, The Washington Post, etcetera. And then there were the columnists like Walter Winchell, like Drew Pearson, who were absolutely vicious vicious in their attacks on Joe McCarthy, and their attacks grew in their viciousness as this drama continues to unfold, particularly when the innuendos start popping up about David Schein and Roy Cohn. But the new factor is television, which is really just getting going in the early nineteen fifties. And I've talked in an earlier episode how I think it was the Longines Longines watches had the first, meet the press kinda show where they're it's a talk show, and they're talking about politics. And when this show starts around 1950, it's pretty freewheeling. There's, conservatives on there, liberals, all kinds of different people are on there. It pretty kinda shocked me how many, conservatives of that period of time, were on this show or were even co hosting it or hosting it. They had different hosts that kinda rotated. But by 1954, the year that the Eisenhower administration zeroes in on Joe McCarthy, the second year of the Eisenhower administration, the second year of our, McCarthy being the chair of the oversight committee in the senate, this same show is completely buttoned up. It's the CFR people. It's a it's a host that are reporters from, c I think it was CBS, from from the network reporters. Very similar just by 1954, very similar to what meet the press or Face the Nation, would be today. And so TV is becoming more of a focused weapon against the right and particularly against Joe McCarthy. And, the premier attack dog on the television side is an up and coming reporter, who is now notorious and has lionized and revered even by a lot of conservatives, a CBS reporter by the name of Edward R. Murrow, a former member of at least one, if not two, to my, research reckoning, communist front organizations in the nineteen thirties, and at minimum, a typical standard issue, left wing, internationalist, selection of evidence, practitioner par excellence. No different than what you see today on CNN or even on, like, MS now, I guess they call it. It was called MSNBC a couple of weeks ago. He's this kind of guy. But, he's zeroing in on Joe McCarthy. Walter Windshow zeroing in. Drew Pearson zeroing in on on the print side. Commentators on the radio are zeroing in, and there's an accumulation now of charges against McCarthy. Unfortunately, they're all false, but they stem from each one of these investigations. So the tiding committee investigation said McCarthy was reckless in the charges he made about communist and the government, and they claimed that he chain kept changing the numbers of how many communists he found in the government when actually first of all, McCarthy is pulling out information that was developed in the congress that was elected in 1946, the lead list. He's then added to it from, sources he has in the FBI and other agencies. And, you know, he doesn't know how many of these people are actual members of the Communist Party or actual actually connected to the KGB or whatever. He just is, wanting full investigations of material that the FBI, the internal security, agents within the various agencies like the state department, and other, sources, have put together. And, and, you know, he had no ability to prosecute these things. He was just a backbencher senator. But anyway so they said, oh, he made all these unfounded charges. He changed the numbers, which was a lie. Tidy said he had a tape of McCarthy's speech in Wheatley West, Virginia, and he said the number of communists that he mentioned in that speech is not the number he said in Reno, and he said in Salt Lake City on this same tour. He said, I have a tape. I can prove it. He kept saying this. But finally, he was called before a judge in a legal, matter, and he didn't have the tape. Oh, big surprise. And the tape of this speech, it was tape recorded by a, local newspaper. It was destroyed. Nobody has the tape. And that was interesting in itself. Anyway, so that and then then his hearing oh, all these reckless charges. He he didn't allow McCarthy to make his case. I go into this in more detail in my big, a hundred and twenty minute McCarthy episode. It's just about all about Joe McCarthy, about, various cases he undertook. But that's what came out of the committee if you followed the liberal press. So then the, the first Gillette committee is crying to the senate that he lost his senate race because McCarthy smeared him. And McCarthy said things in his speech that, should call, his speech in Wheeling that that should require him to be kicked out of the senate like he doesn't have free speech. You know, ridiculous. There was an allegation that, somebody was circulating a picture of this tidings, Miller tidings, with the chairman of the Communist Party USA. It was a composite picture. It wasn't a real picture, but they couldn't prove in any way McCarthy had anything to do with this. And maybe some of McCarthy's supporters did because they hated this guy for what he did. But, anyway, so there was charges came out of that and out of the out of the committee. And then so McCarthy is vicious to his opponents. He's reckless in these communist charges. Then the second Gillette Committee, is was an allegation that McCarthy was receiving funds illegally from this housing company. Problem is after they went through all of his finances, all of the finances of his fiancee, all of the finances of his parents, all of the finances of his siblings and other extended family members, they couldn't find that he did anything wrong. But so but the allegation can't continue. McCarthy is a shady operator. He's reckless. He makes all these wild charges. He's a shady operator. He's a dirty politician. They just kept accumulating these charges, and these smear merchants like Drew Pearson kept circulating these things that had been, put before, the senate investigative committees, but not found to be true. So, but now with the coming of TV, Edward r Murrow zeroes in on McCarthy. And, of course, we have, I should say we have some other charges that are now being accumulated because, McCarthy has made Roy Cohn, the chief of staff of his committee, Roy Cohn, a very good prosecutor, but really really was a sharp elbowed guy. But also probably, by all accounts, a flaming homosexual who then brought a fellow by the name David of David Shine, whose father was a very wealthy, retailer from Chicago. Very handsome young man, David Shine, young man, brought him onto the staff, and then they're inseparable. And, they talk McCarthy into going on, to Europe together on this trip to investigate, US information offices for still, disseminating communist propaganda. The the some of these offices connected to embassies overseas, which they were doing. But, this trip turned into a fiasco and more innuendo, and now they're starting to be innuendo about McCarthy. And this is the thing about the left. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. McCarthy's a homosexual. McCarthy's a homosexual. It's a even back then, they were saying that people were, who were homosexual were had their lives ruined and were smeared, and they were accused of being security risks and blackmail risks when really it was just all these intolerant white, patriarch types. They wanted to get rid of all these poor homosexuals, but yet they attacked McCarthy. They didn't hesitate, folks. And they attacked McCarthy for as a Catholic. You know, there was still a problem in this country in the nineteen fifties about people who didn't like Catholics. People who didn't like Catholics in public office thinking that they were more loyal to the pope than they were loyal to The United States. This is what John f Kennedy one of the biggest things he had to surmount in 1960, before he was elected president was this very charge made against him. Well, they were making the charge against McCarthy, and there was nobody answering the charge when they were making it against McCarthy, accusing him of being anti Protestant for bringing in this JB Matthews, a Protestant minister, to be one of his staffers. I told you about that. There's a big a big smear about that and all this innuendo about that. So there's all this innuendo stuff against McCarthy. There's an accumulation of false charges being repeated over and over and over again against McCarthy. Then there's also the allegation now that he is a committee chair, oh, he runs rough shot over people. He doesn't let him talk. He makes accusations that are wild and false. And these poor people are being smeared, and they can't do anything about it. Completely untrue, folks. If McCarthy said that you, he had suspicion that you were a communist or an, some kind of an infiltrator, He gave you that, information in advance so you could have an attorney with you when you came before the committee. Scoop Jackson, a very partisan Democrat who was on that committee as a junior senator, and others on his committee said, boy, McCarthy were surprised. He's he's really pretty fair to everybody. And there's a YouTube video of McCarthy as the chairman, you know, acting as chair, sitting in the chair of the of this committee, and he has in front of him one of the most vile human beings I have ever seen on video by the name of William, Marx Mandel. His middle name is Marx, folks. He was he was born the year the Bolsheviks took over Russia, and his parents named his gave his middle name after Karl Marx for god's sake. And this guy's a flaming off the charts communist, and he was removed from the Hoover Institution. Because of his communist affiliations, he was a defense analyst and a Soviet analyst. He was so knowledgeable about the Soviet Union, how we should be getting along with them and doing what they want. So he got he lost his job. He he gets drugged before McCarthy's committee. And this guy is just vile. And McCarthy's sitting there smiling. He's letting him talk and talk and talk and talk over McCarthy and talk over the other members of the committee. Rude as hell. And he's tolerating all this. He's not what they say he was in either his demeanor, his behavior, or his intent. He was trying to get at the facts relevant to the internal security of the government of the United States, folks. That's what Joe McCarthy was all about. And I think you can still find this clip on YouTube if they haven't deep sixed it of William Mandel Marx confronting Joe McCarthy. Anyway, vile. He was vile. So, but anyhow, TV is coming into its own, and Edward R. Murrow is coming into his own. And he does this documentary of McCarthy using all the tricks, the selection of evidence, the, all the bad angles of McCarthy's face they can get, all, you know, the music, everything. It's a psychodrama, and it's a smear. It's an hour documentary, but it's very effective because TV and video can be very effective, and it's new. And McCarthy, unfortunately, is charismatic as he was in person, as well as he did with newspaper interviews and as he did, you know, standing on his own sometimes, on a floor of the senate when he's being attacked by ten, fifteen senators at once, as well as he could do in those situations, he didn't look real good. He kinda looked like a villain. You know? He looked like he needed to have a shave. He had a heavy beard. And, you know, he just he could be he could be depicted as a villain. And this is probably more than anything else, this is his undoing. So, anyway, this documentary comes out, and it starts to chip away at McCarthy's 50% approval rating. It's almost as high as Eisenhower's folks, and he's not playing mister milk toast like Eisenhower. He's throwing bombs every day and investigating people every day. And, anyway, I told you that he got all this information about the army. And so now as a committee chair, he's going to go after the army and go after the signal court of the army and go after what's going on in Fort Mammoth, New Jersey, and he has a general backing him. General Lawton, and he thought he had another general backing him because in private, he bolstered, a lot of the allegations being made, about, lax security practices. Another general by the name of Ralph Zwicker. General Zwicker. But now we come into the army McCarthy hearings and the impact of television. So these hearings are are organized not by McCarthy, but, this is the fourth investigative committee going after McCarthy, but, it's ostensibly investigating both the army and, investigating McCarthy's allegations against the army, against the signal corps. And so, the army is alleging that Roy Cohn is browbeating constantly, and he's getting McCarthy to browbeat the top echelon of the army to give favorable treatment to Roy Cohn's close friend David Shine. That's their allegation. And then, and then in turn, they're torpedoing McCarthy's, investigative, material that he's, unearthed about the lax, practices at Fort Mammoth, New Jersey, and other parts of the Army Signal Corps. So there's this hearing, and the army is very smart. And the Eisenhower administration is very smart. They bring in this attorney, Joseph Welch. Folks, he may not have been much of an attorney, but he's a Shakespearean actor. And this is all for television. And McCarthy is not a Shakespearean actor, and and he's not good on TV. And it's not good. You know, this David Shine thing with Cohn, Cohn is not good on TV. He's terrible. He looks like a villain. McCarthy looks like a villain. They've got all these allegations. I don't think Cohn, in my opinion, was not totally innocent of some of the charges. They exonerated McCarthy. McCarthy's exonerated by these hearings. They don't end up charging him with anything that he did wrong, and they don't even charge they don't charge Cohn either for doing anything wrong. They also don't deal with everything that went on at the signal core. And one of the key moments of the hearing is McCarthy, in private, this general Zwicker tells McCarthy, oh, yeah. You're right. Well, we got all these problems with the signal cord. It's terrible. So then McCarthy puts him on the stand, and he won't say these things. And he's denying these things because they've got to him. The administration's got to him. They're not gonna let this general the other general's career is over with, by the way, Lawton, who started all this even before McCarthy. Yeah. He ruined he destroyed his career by bringing up these allegations, but Zwicker is not gonna let that happen to him. So now be now in public, he won't say the things he said to McCarthy in private, and McCarthy blows his stack. He loses his temper and says you're not fit to wear this uniform. And, of course, Wicker has a good record and whatnot before this. And so this Joseph Welch just turns his you know, he makes McCarthy out to be the most evil man ever because of this. So, anyway, these hearings don't end up to bring anything against McCarthy, but it's the beginning of the end in terms of his, popularity. He keeps a core of, like, 35%. According to, the, I think it's Harris polls of that time. Oh, no. Gallup. George Gallup. But it's the beginning of the end. His popularity is now receding. And, of course, politicians, when they see the popularity of their enemy receding, that's when they attack. So now we go into the final round of this, which is the Nixon and Eisenhower orchestrated US senate censure of Joe McCarthy. And the this committee is led by a worm of a senator from the state of Utah by the name of Arthur Watkins, who will never be known for anything great because he's not great. He he's famous, but he's infamous. He's not really famous, but he's infamous for those of us who know this story. And he's just a toady for the administration, and they have they they charge McCarthy with 46 charges for censure. And they have to dismiss 45 of them, including the charge that he was, you know, that he was outrageous and that he, defamed this US military man, this general Zwicker. Even some of the Democrats said, you know, that they found out that that this Zwicker was lying. They knew. Many of the senators knew that Zwicker had lied. And so they didn't want at some point that maybe they would be censured for losing their temper with a witness lying to them as the Democrats were now getting ready to take over control of the senate again. So, anyway, terrible trial. They they made the the onerous rules. If McCarthy or his attorney brought up, and McCarthy was not allowed to ever speak unless he kept his attorney quiet. He had Edward Bennett Williams, one of the most famous DC lawyers, was his attorney, but he had to let Bennett talk, and they wouldn't let McCarthy talk. They made up all these rules. They made up another rule. And Bennett said, well, in this situation, this senator did doesn't so. You didn't do anything about him. Oh, no. No past behavior of any US senator could be used in evidence in this censure, proceeding. It was rigged, folks. Totally, totally, totally rigged. And yet they had to get rid of 45 of the 46 charges, and all they were left with was that when the Gillette committee was combing through all of McCarthy's finances, that he was not as forthcoming. He was not as cooperative and sunny and turning over all of his finances and all the finances of his aunts and uncles and his parents and his, fiance as they would have liked him to have been. So that's the charge that caused the censure of McCarthy and censure I mean, people today, folks, they throw around censure like it's nothing. Anyway, McCarthy is convicted and censured in the senate. What were the consequences of this successful censure vote? Well, one, Arthur Watkins, the Republican chairman of the committee leading the censure effort, got a water project that he wanted out in the West. Little pork barrel action there for Arthur Watkins. He gets that and America gets the destruction of one of its greatest heroes. Lies were spread about why McCarthy was censured. Nobody knows he was censured because he wasn't cooperating with the committee that wasn't even looking at his anti communist efforts. The term McCarthyism is now become the worst label you can give a politician other than maybe a racist, and at this time it was probably worse than that, as a result of this censure vote, any result of the blackout of any positive news about anything McCarthy did in the future or other anti communist, either no news or a 100%, or or a 100% attack on whatever they were doing. Eventually, the anti communist committees are disbanded. Politicians were afraid that they might suffer the treatment that McCarthy suffered, and so they didn't wanna take up the mantle with any vigor at least that McCarthy so willingly took, took on, in his effort to save our country from the internal issue of domestic communism and internationalist elitist who were fostering communism in this country and around the globe. Every Democrat voted to censure McCarthy even though many of them were conservatives. One exception, JFK. He didn't show up to vote. And so Eisenhower got his man. He stopped a populist movement. He essentially stopped domestic investigation of communism practically, and he continued on in his role as a gatekeeper for our corporate masters. You're listening to Hour of Decision on Liberty News Radio. My name is Lou Moore, and I will be back to you next week.