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[00:01:30] Good day, good day, hello and how are you? I'm Ron Edwards and welcome to the Ron Edwards American Experience

[00:01:35] This is Faith Day and we welcome one and all to join us from throughout America and around the world

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[00:01:51] very very good minister and good guy overall

[00:01:57] and I'm going to be talking with him in just a bit

[00:02:00] but in the meantime and between time my friends

[00:02:03] prayers go out for the folks of New York and New Jersey

[00:02:07] and boy, yeah they had a real little, kind of a real shake up this morning

[00:02:14] earthquake epicenter of the New York City, New Jersey earthquake

[00:02:20] man, Trump a national golf club

[00:02:25] you know Trump said the ground shook very hard

[00:02:28] and man, 4.8 magnitude

[00:02:33] surprise many locals in the process

[00:02:36] well they didn't say that in the end times it's going to be earthquakes in diverse places

[00:02:41] and so you know

[00:02:44] my producer Doug says it's all those illegals in New York City stomping their feet

[00:02:49] well that's probably a contributory factor

[00:02:53] I won't deny that sir but anyway

[00:02:57] you know lots of crazy things are going on

[00:03:01] lots of crazy things in all seriousness

[00:03:04] amongst the most crazy things

[00:03:07] you know for some time I have expressed disappointment

[00:03:14] feelings ranging from disappointment to disdain

[00:03:18] for one Mike Johnson the speaker of the U.S. House

[00:03:22] and the reason why is because

[00:03:25] in a sense I have less respect for him than I do for Uncle Joe Biden

[00:03:29] and the reason why is because Uncle Joe Biden is who he is

[00:03:32] he's been a communist

[00:03:35] an evil supporter ever since he first got in office

[00:03:40] in 1972 and he's never changed his stripes

[00:03:45] but you have someone like Mike Johnson

[00:03:50] Big Mike Johnson right? Oh little Mikey actually

[00:03:54] and he has for years been touting himself as a believer in our Constitution

[00:03:59] follower of Christ etc. etc. etc.

[00:04:02] and since he became speaker

[00:04:06] the guy has been just awful

[00:04:09] he has been just as liberal or left leaning as Kevin McCarthy

[00:04:14] and any Democrat you can name

[00:04:17] he just approved the biggest and the worst spending bill in U.S. history

[00:04:23] and by the way when it's fully implemented

[00:04:28] it's going to be a big problem

[00:04:30] when this bill goes into full operation

[00:04:33] it's not going to be pretty folks

[00:04:36] you think things are going bad now economically?

[00:04:39] You just wait

[00:04:41] well and I have privately questioned

[00:04:44] is Mr. Johnson under someone's thumb

[00:04:49] does somebody have something on him?

[00:04:52] What's going on here?

[00:04:54] How can you be one way

[00:04:56] even lead prayers in the House of Congress

[00:05:00] and speak of all the wonderful things about your faith in Jesus

[00:05:04] and all of that and then you turn around

[00:05:08] and do what you've done Mr. Little Mikey Johnson

[00:05:13] and so proving that great minds think alike

[00:05:17] Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene

[00:05:20] aired speculative concerns regarding speaker Mike Johnson's

[00:05:24] recent political action suggesting a potential blackmail situation

[00:05:29] to explain what she perceives as a radical departure

[00:05:33] in his known conservative and Christian stances

[00:05:37] now Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't know me from Adam

[00:05:43] we've never had a conversation

[00:05:45] but yet we've come to the same thought

[00:05:48] that someone has something on this guy

[00:05:52] and she says suggesting a potential blackmail situation

[00:05:58] and see this is why

[00:06:00] I could go all the way back to my childhood

[00:06:03] when my dad would talk to me about a righteous standard

[00:06:07] and how you have to have

[00:06:09] if you get into the public arena

[00:06:11] and you stand up or you present yourself

[00:06:15] as one who stands up for what is right yada yada

[00:06:19] then that means your background has to be clean too

[00:06:22] so that no one can come to you and say you know what

[00:06:24] but if you don't stab all those in the back

[00:06:28] that you who have supported you

[00:06:30] if you don't come to the dark side

[00:06:32] we're going to pull this out

[00:06:34] and we're going to tell the world that you did this

[00:06:36] and such and such 20 years ago or whatever

[00:06:39] this is sad stuff

[00:06:42] and it must be true

[00:06:46] or because I've thought two things

[00:06:50] it's possible that someone has something on them

[00:06:52] but I've also thought that you know like many people

[00:06:54] they run around saying that they're Christian

[00:06:56] they're their followers of Christ

[00:06:59] even some ministers when all they're doing

[00:07:01] is trying to lead people to hell

[00:07:04] and economically Mr. Johnson is trying to lead

[00:07:07] America to hell in a handbasket

[00:07:10] and he made a complete departure from

[00:07:13] who he has led us to believe what he is

[00:07:16] because you remember when he was first appointed

[00:07:18] as speaker when he became speaker

[00:07:20] I was all happy

[00:07:22] oh wow because he was saying all the right things

[00:07:26] he was at first seemingly

[00:07:28] he was speaking about doing the right things

[00:07:31] okay and so yeah I thought boy

[00:07:34] we got rid of Kevin McCarthy

[00:07:36] Bamo

[00:07:37] things are going to turn around

[00:07:39] no they got worse

[00:07:41] they got worse

[00:07:44] he posted a bill that was worse than what even nasty Pelosi

[00:07:48] had wanted to do

[00:07:51] you see this is very dangerous

[00:07:53] this represents a very clear and present danger

[00:07:56] that our nation faces today

[00:07:58] not only do we have to be concerned about those

[00:08:01] who are openly on the dark side

[00:08:04] but we also have to use our discernment

[00:08:08] and become more wise when it comes to choosing those

[00:08:12] who say hey

[00:08:15] I stand for what is right

[00:08:18] well for me and I'll set you free

[00:08:20] etc etc etc

[00:08:22] we need more discernment

[00:08:24] than any other time in our American history

[00:08:27] I'm going to see what our guest today

[00:08:30] thinks about that

[00:08:33] yeah

[00:08:35] because this this this I have to say it's really

[00:08:39] I know I seem stuck on this thing

[00:08:42] but it's almost heartbreaking

[00:08:45] it represents

[00:08:48] well hopefully

[00:08:51] the result of what he has passed doesn't come to fruition

[00:08:54] then you will understand why I seem stuck on this

[00:08:58] the economic disaster that this thing is going to

[00:09:01] open the door to

[00:09:04] and this is why

[00:09:06] we've got to be more simplified in our

[00:09:09] in our approach to things

[00:09:11] when it comes to

[00:09:13] the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ

[00:09:16] so that people will know you

[00:09:19] by your true character and you won't be

[00:09:22] you know

[00:09:24] you won't be a fake

[00:09:27] you won't be fooling people and we won't be fooled

[00:09:30] by you if you're trying to fool us because I have to admit

[00:09:33] I was fooled

[00:09:35] and rarely am I fooled

[00:09:37] but Mikey, little Mikey you got me that time

[00:09:40] but I tell you what

[00:09:43] if we the people stand together and we do the right thing

[00:09:47] little Mikey you will

[00:09:50] will pay the price for this for what you have done to this republic

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[00:13:57] and our guest today is Austin

[00:14:01] and we'll be in conversation with him in just a moment

[00:14:05] but in the United States of America today

[00:14:07] most of the people who attend

[00:14:09] are denominational and mega churches

[00:14:12] religious systems, are being

[00:14:15] led astray from the ways of Jesus Christ

[00:14:17] by deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons. In addition, our religious systems are being

[00:14:23] defined by Constantine of the third century. Now he corrupted Christianity or the followers

[00:14:30] of Christ as we're properly defined as followers of the Word with his changes. And we are still

[00:14:36] practicing many of his traditions today. We are in a big spiritual trouble, big heaping trouble in

[00:14:43] this republic turned mobocracy. And if we ever hope to have a move of God in our nation,

[00:14:49] we have to make a significant change back to the ways of Christ. I mean, Christ has to recognize

[00:14:56] his people. If his people are running around like roaches acting like whatever,

[00:15:03] being deceived all the time, like many of us were deceived by little Mikey.

[00:15:09] I mean, that's pretty bad stuff. And there are many deceivers amongst us. They're called tears.

[00:15:19] And anyway, let's welcome our guest, Pastor Austin Crates and welcome to the Ron Edwards

[00:15:27] American Experience. How are you, sir? I'm well and thank you for the opportunity to be with

[00:15:33] you today. Thank you. You know, I'm reminded of the verse 2 Corinthians 11 3, which says,

[00:15:41] But I am afraid lest as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness your minds should be

[00:15:49] led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. And I think, sir, that

[00:15:56] that kind of describes our country today in many ways. We are a deceived people, even many

[00:16:04] amongst us who are followers of the word can be deceived as I was with Mikey Johnson,

[00:16:11] our speaker. And so no one is immune to this art of deception of the enemy,

[00:16:18] whether he's those who claim to be Christ of Christ rather or those who are not would say you.

[00:16:26] Well, we're definitely in a period of disinformation and disorientation. And

[00:16:33] no greater example of that can be given, except for the COVID hoax that we experienced,

[00:16:40] where we were being told various points of information, for instance, like mask wearing

[00:16:46] would help you in the well immunity more or less of the virus where in truth,

[00:16:53] you look at the box and when it says not to be used for viral, you know,

[00:16:59] for prevention, for viral prevention. And the same thing was true with likes of axes. So

[00:17:06] we're getting inundated with the media that has its prime source from two sources where

[00:17:12] everybody else falls in line. And it's become more of a propaganda than it is actually the

[00:17:19] protection of the people and the information for the people to make the decisions about their

[00:17:26] republic, not democracy. But I agree with you. And the other aspect of this, if we want to go

[00:17:32] into more of the ecclesiastical or church realm is that we have a lot of people that are trying

[00:17:37] to attract people with various programs and things that are very weak on biblical content,

[00:17:47] because they don't want to offend anybody. And so you have a lot of secret sensitive churches that

[00:17:52] attract a lot of people, but are very low on discipleship. And the end of results of that

[00:17:58] through studies that people have done, that after about two or three years of sitting in a

[00:18:03] pew in a church like that, people look for a place where they can get deeper teaching

[00:18:09] and a more biblical perspective and a biblical worldview.

[00:18:12] You know, that reminds me of one of the founding fathers who said, if you don't

[00:18:18] know your rights, you don't have any. And if you don't know the word of God,

[00:18:24] you won't have that knowledge that you need for your protection and for the

[00:18:28] furtherance of the gospel in the world. And thus you have what you see today in our country

[00:18:36] and in Great Britain and Australia and throughout the world. You see this rapid deterioration

[00:18:42] amongst the so-called Western nations. And they, in many cases, whether it's among the churches

[00:18:51] or elsewhere, they seem to be gleefully marching in this wrong direction. We keep

[00:18:56] getting in my opinion what are called warning signs back up, turn around, turn from your

[00:19:02] stupid wicked ways. And I think God has been very merciful, especially to this nation.

[00:19:09] But you know, in many cases, you know, all good things come to an end.

[00:19:15] And I think we could be reaching the end of God's patience. What do you say?

[00:19:21] Well, let's take a little bit of an example from England in the 1700s. The thing that saved

[00:19:26] England from an outright civil war revolution was the fact that you had the

[00:19:33] John Wesley's and the Whitfields and others that were revivalists. George Whitfield was

[00:19:42] basically an outcast in the eyes of the Church of England. And so what you had was you had a man

[00:19:49] that was Oxford educated, by the way. His life is fascinating. We don't really have time to go into it.

[00:19:57] But the churches wouldn't allow him to preach in their facilities. And so Whitfield went out to

[00:20:05] what would be considered the lower part of society, the co-workers. And he would preach

[00:20:10] in the fields not to hundreds but to thousands, sometimes up to 10,000 people would hear him

[00:20:17] preach. And it was through the preaching of the Whitfields and the Wesley's and others

[00:20:22] that England was saved of a bloody revolution. And I think that we're coming into the same

[00:20:28] situation here today, you know, we're in a situation where the pastor in the pulpit has

[00:20:37] one or two things. Either he's going to cower and not preach the word and try to satisfy

[00:20:43] people and allow them to be exposed to moralistic therapeutic deism, which is a nice way of saying

[00:20:51] I'm not going to give you anything offensive. I'm just going to tell you you're a great person.

[00:20:55] And sadly to say a lot of churches have fallen into that trap. But compare that to the other

[00:21:01] type of pastor that is biblically sound, has a biblical worldview, and is not there to

[00:21:08] pacify you but to bring the truth of God into your life and discipleship. And he'll pay the cost

[00:21:14] regardless. He'll pay the cost because he knows that there is a hired judge that will judge him

[00:21:21] for all the teaching that he does in how he handles the congregation. Now I have to admit

[00:21:27] those type of pastors today are more of a rarity. But my hope is in the youth,

[00:21:35] because we have a lot of youth that are questioning the church because they never get their answers.

[00:21:42] I'm sorry, the questions to their answers. And I believe we're going to see a reawakening that

[00:21:48] will take place in our youth and they will be sold out and there will be a national revival.

[00:21:53] At least that's my hope that we will have a national revival because it's the only thing

[00:21:59] that's going to keep us from going down the path that we're going down right now.

[00:22:03] Absolutely. You mentioned Wesley when we were in England a few years ago, we went to

[00:22:10] one of the, in fact more than one of the spots where he actually preached. And one was at an area

[00:22:18] where they did their mining and it's a huge circle. And the people used to sit in this giant

[00:22:26] circle, which was dug out. And in fact, the lectern still stands there today. And you could still

[00:22:36] feel the impact literally of the truth that was spoken there many, many years ago.

[00:22:41] And so you bring back a huge history lesson that we saw up close there just a few years ago. But

[00:22:49] you're right. The youth, the thing is though, the youth are very dissatisfied with our society

[00:22:58] today and rightfully so. And it is my prayer that enough of them are being told enough of the truth

[00:23:07] where their curiosity, their youthful curiosity will carry them into a deeper search and bring

[00:23:15] about what you hope to happen with the invigorated youth. Because like you said, there are so many

[00:23:23] ministers up today, they're jokes. They're just hot air, no better than the politicians

[00:23:31] that we speak about. But we're going to hold it right there and we'll be right back on this

[00:23:36] Faith Day edition of the Ron Edwards American Experience with our guest minister Austin

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[00:28:55] Hello, I'm Ron Edwards and welcome back to this edition of the Ron Edwards American

[00:29:00] Experience Faith Day.

[00:29:03] And you know the Bible says that there's one God, one church, one Lord and one

[00:29:09] gospel, one spirit, one Jesus, one Bible and one way.

[00:29:14] So why in Sam Hill does it seem that Christianity in the United States of

[00:29:18] America, Great Britain and elsewhere is so diced up and different from the word

[00:29:23] of God and the church Yeshua built in the first century?

[00:29:28] Why the big difference?

[00:29:29] Maybe our guest can give us an answer on that.

[00:29:33] We're back with our guest today, Austin Crates Minister.

[00:29:38] How do you answer that question, sir?

[00:29:41] Well one of the things you have to understand is that theology has a

[00:29:45] history to it.

[00:29:48] And when we are in the early stages of the New Testament church, we're basically

[00:29:54] having a Jewish concept and idea of covenant, of redemption, of atonement

[00:30:02] and definitely of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, the teachings,

[00:30:06] et cetera.

[00:30:07] Now you mentioned earlier, I think it was Constantine, things actually went rather

[00:30:14] well.

[00:30:15] The first 75 years there was a harmony between Jewish individuals,

[00:30:19] synagogues, et cetera.

[00:30:22] But then when it came down to the deity of Christ, the incarnation, that's

[00:30:27] where a split took place.

[00:30:28] So in 150 AD, there was this split from the church and the synagogue.

[00:30:35] And as a matter of fact, the Jews actually persecuted the church.

[00:30:40] And usually through history, you see just the opposite going on.

[00:30:44] When Constantine came to power, he did not have a theological perspective

[00:30:51] or background.

[00:30:52] And so the church from being persecuted almost overnight was welcomed

[00:30:58] as the, shall we put it, government church of the empire of Rome.

[00:31:06] And not everybody went with this.

[00:31:08] There were other groups around the world that did not come into that,

[00:31:13] let's say group or denomination for lack of a better term.

[00:31:20] So Constantine had some of his buddies placed in various positions within

[00:31:25] the church and he ruled over the church.

[00:31:28] And we know from what we call the church councils where certain

[00:31:32] doctrinal decisions were made.

[00:31:35] And so what we had is we had from a simple act to community that would

[00:31:42] meet in homes and be community.

[00:31:45] It turned into a, let's say, cathedral and liturgy that we have today.

[00:31:53] Now not just in the Catholic churches, but that influence infiltrated

[00:31:58] into the Reformation as well.

[00:32:02] Luther never wanted to have his own church.

[00:32:06] He wanted to reform the Catholic church.

[00:32:09] Calvin basically the same thing and for the most part, most of the reformers.

[00:32:14] But a lot of the traditions that took place in those early days

[00:32:18] filtered its way through to the church even to this present day.

[00:32:22] So you have churches that are what we call very liturgical.

[00:32:26] They go by a liturgy.

[00:32:28] And then you have churches that are not liturgical.

[00:32:30] This is what's the difference between what they call a high church

[00:32:33] and a low church scenario.

[00:32:35] But through the years, you had various doctrinal differences due to the way

[00:32:40] that you interpreted the word of God.

[00:32:42] Now it's interesting if I can just go on here for just a second.

[00:32:46] Most people when they go to a Bible college or a seminary,

[00:32:51] they're taught a system of belief rather than scripture.

[00:32:58] Right.

[00:32:58] Did you catch what I'm saying by that, Ron?

[00:33:00] Yes, I do.

[00:33:01] Big time.

[00:33:02] Yes, I do.

[00:33:04] OK, so what you have is they are learning the system.

[00:33:08] They're not learning theology.

[00:33:09] There are very or should say Bible and theology.

[00:33:13] They're very few seminary today that will actually just teach biblical

[00:33:18] theology.

[00:33:19] And I graduated from Ashland Theological Seminary.

[00:33:23] And that's all they taught is biblical theology.

[00:33:27] And I'm minored in historical theology.

[00:33:30] And you could see whatever you see a weird doctrine or something,

[00:33:33] you can always trace it back to some source.

[00:33:37] And so you see how there was distortions

[00:33:40] and interpretation, which is very important to how you interpret.

[00:33:44] There's grammatical interpretation or pure hermeneutics

[00:33:48] as we call it, interpretation.

[00:33:50] But then you have what they call special hermeneutics,

[00:33:53] which these systems adhere to their own way of interpreting the scripture.

[00:33:58] And that's why, like you were asking, how did we get into this mess

[00:34:02] of everybody having something different?

[00:34:07] It's because we honor the system more than we do the actual

[00:34:11] interpretation of scripture.

[00:34:14] And that's the predicament that we're in right now.

[00:34:16] And that's probably a whole show in itself, Ron.

[00:34:19] But that's that's basically in a nutshell what what has taken place.

[00:34:24] And so as a result, we completely ignore what Jesus says about unity

[00:34:30] in the body of Christ, one of the most fractured,

[00:34:34] ununified entities on the planet is the body of Christ.

[00:34:40] And we ignore that part of the Bible that tells us to die to our old flesh nature,

[00:34:46] how to renew our mind and how Satan can affect the life

[00:34:50] of a follower of Jesus Christ.

[00:34:53] And just that little bit, just that tiny little bit is rarely spoken of correctly,

[00:34:58] in my opinion, in most churches, not only in the United States,

[00:35:02] but if you go to Great Britain or France or wherever.

[00:35:05] And then you wonder why other entities are gaining

[00:35:10] ground and more influence in the world.

[00:35:13] It's not because the Islamists, for example, are more correct in their

[00:35:17] ideology. It is because they are united

[00:35:20] and they are living according to what they believe.

[00:35:25] And they're rolling with that as opposed to two followers of Yeshua or Jesus.

[00:35:32] They're so fractured.

[00:35:33] And as you say, and we used to jokingly call it cemetery schools,

[00:35:38] they're not teaching these principles.

[00:35:40] And so we end up with the conditions that we have today.

[00:35:45] Some pastors actually teach that Satan and his demons, for example,

[00:35:48] cannot bother the Christian.

[00:35:50] And I think that is utterly foolish.

[00:35:52] And how do you how do we get this foolishness out of the body of Christ,

[00:36:00] out of out of the church?

[00:36:01] How do we get around this and start getting back to truth on a large scale?

[00:36:07] You're going to find that a lot of churches aren't going to even bother with that.

[00:36:11] There's such protection for the system

[00:36:15] that anything outside of that little box will require a paradigm shift

[00:36:20] in order to get them out.

[00:36:23] You see, what's what's going on is that when you teach a particular way

[00:36:27] of viewing things and interpretation is the key to this,

[00:36:31] if I put on my reformed glasses or my Baptist classes or Catholic glasses,

[00:36:37] I'm going to see things differently because of the tint of the glass that is there.

[00:36:42] When I take the glasses off and I just allow the word to speak,

[00:36:48] even if I may have minor disagreements,

[00:36:52] that's where you're going to find unity.

[00:36:54] And let me just say this, unity will never come around around doctrine.

[00:37:01] The way to unify the church is through relationships.

[00:37:05] And when pastors have relationships,

[00:37:07] even if their doctrinal differences are way off and they get to know the person

[00:37:13] that's ministering in the same city or area,

[00:37:18] there is a there is that Christian unity and love that begins to take place

[00:37:22] where dialogue can happen, but dialogue is secondary

[00:37:27] to relationship. And that's really the first step.

[00:37:31] But you're not going to come into a doctrinal agreement.

[00:37:34] Now, you will come into doctrinal agreement in what we call the dogmas,

[00:37:39] the Trinity, the incarnation, the resurrection, judgment, etc., etc.

[00:37:45] Those issues are the mainstay of what Christianity is really all about.

[00:37:51] And you'll find unity in that, but you'll also find diversity

[00:37:55] and how that's interpreted in teaching.

[00:37:58] So dogma is the foundations, but doctrine is how each church

[00:38:03] or fellowship teaches the dogma.

[00:38:06] And that's where that's where really a lot of the division comes in.

[00:38:10] Some people believe in the rapture, some people don't believe in the rapture.

[00:38:14] Some people believe that only members should have communion.

[00:38:17] Others don't. All these little traditions and stuff is with killing the church.

[00:38:23] I've done some church consulting and the biggest question is,

[00:38:26] are you willing to change? And a lot of the churches that are dying,

[00:38:30] they're absolutely refusing to do what's necessary in order to survive.

[00:38:37] And a lot of it is old tradition, like we always did things this way.

[00:38:41] And that's what's really killing us.

[00:38:44] And it goes both not only for the people in the church, but also for the pastors.

[00:38:51] We're seeing along the lines right now of LGBTQ, XYZ,

[00:38:57] you know, the alphabet too, literally denominations falling apart.

[00:39:03] And again, it's all on the basis of interpretation and how

[00:39:07] how they're willing or unwilling to adapt or change.

[00:39:11] Now, what I'm saying, adapting, I'm not saying change the gospel.

[00:39:15] What I'm saying is some of the traditions

[00:39:18] that are found in various congregations need to be put aside like sacred cows

[00:39:24] and a lot of the gospel to speak again.

[00:39:28] Yeah, and I think also that speaking, speaking of the word of God,

[00:39:34] that I think if churches, if people in general decided, hey, you know what?

[00:39:41] Why don't we unite on the principles, the 10 commandments,

[00:39:47] the some of the Levitical principles, things that are immutable, they're not,

[00:39:52] you know, you can't mess with the house and not steal.

[00:39:56] The house and I've covered thy neighbors, neighbor's wife, nor is an ox, nor is asked.

[00:39:59] The house shall not lie, etc., etc., etc.

[00:40:03] I think if we made a decision to get back to those moral principles

[00:40:08] and stick to that, I think

[00:40:12] branching out into the other areas, I think we would make more right decisions

[00:40:17] and be more unified because if you're if you're if you're unified on the

[00:40:22] on the basic founding principles

[00:40:25] that dictate your moral behavior and your thinking and your actions,

[00:40:30] I think if you stem from that, you will have a greater chance of unity

[00:40:34] and more strength and power in the battle between good and evil.

[00:40:39] I mean, I hate to end it right here, but

[00:40:42] we've only got about a minute.

[00:40:45] Could you honor us, sir, with a prayer?

[00:40:49] You know, go as God leads you, but like to do even if you could pray about unity in the body.

[00:40:57] Well, Father, we thank you for your son.

[00:40:59] We thank you for what he has done and accomplished on the cross,

[00:41:02] his willingness to come down 100 percent God and 100 percent man.

[00:41:08] And his cry in John 17 was for us to unify as believers.

[00:41:13] And Lord, we humbly come before you this day and ask, Lord,

[00:41:18] bring your church together in this time of peril, disinformation

[00:41:23] and downright evil, bring your church together to raise the standard

[00:41:27] of Lord Jesus Christ and His kingdom in Jesus's name.

[00:41:31] We pray amen.

[00:41:34] Amen. Thank you so much.

[00:41:36] And we're going to have to have you back because you touched on some very interesting

[00:41:42] subjects there and I even want to get into some history with you.

[00:41:46] Bonhoeffer, Wesley and some of those interesting people of history

[00:41:52] and some of the fine examples that they said in the past.

[00:41:54] And we're going to have to have you back.

[00:41:56] I'm going to have Doug make sure you get back on the show very soon, sir.

[00:42:02] Well, thank you for having me.

[00:42:03] It's a real privilege to be with you, Ron.

[00:42:05] Thank you, sir.

[00:42:07] And we shall continue on the Rhonda Words American Experience right after this.

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[00:45:15] I'm Ron Edwards and you're listening to the Ron Edwards American Experience

[00:45:18] Faith Day Edition.

[00:45:19] Thank you so much for tuning in.

[00:45:21] And, you know, a person who has a form of godliness is not saved by the blood.

[00:45:29] They don't make Jesus Lord.

[00:45:31] They don't need the word of God or Holy Spirit because they have their

[00:45:35] religion all worked out on their own in their own adult brains.

[00:45:42] They live to satisfy their fleshly desires and they walk, talk and act

[00:45:45] like what they call the world.

[00:45:48] They never change but attend church for many years, staying in the same way

[00:45:52] year after year because as Joel Olstein famously says, Jesus loves you.

[00:45:58] Just come as you are.

[00:46:00] They don't believe that there are consequences for disobeying God,

[00:46:04] not resisting Satan and ignoring part of the word of God.

[00:46:10] They ignore the judgment of God to their own detriment.

[00:46:14] So we have some serious decisions.

[00:46:16] See, we're the deciders and we have to make our systems.

[00:46:22] We have to straighten them out, but we cannot straighten them out based

[00:46:26] upon our feelings, our own human customs, etc., etc., etc.

[00:46:31] We have to go to the principles of God throughout history.

[00:46:34] God is always one of the people he could call his own

[00:46:39] that would represent him correctly on his earth.

[00:46:43] He gave the first five books of the Bible to set forth laws,

[00:46:46] precepts, commandments and principles on how his people were to live

[00:46:52] in the wilderness.

[00:46:52] Remember that?

[00:46:54] You've all read that story right?

[00:46:56] He set up types and shadows in the building of the temple

[00:47:00] and in the feasts to reflect his son, the coming Messiah.

[00:47:04] But over time man began to kind of ruin things.

[00:47:08] And when we get in, when we start ruining things and trying to change

[00:47:14] things into our own image or what we want it to be rather than

[00:47:18] what God wants it to be, you know, just how things really mess up.

[00:47:22] Now the Constitution of the United States was based upon godly principles.

[00:47:28] And though the men who ran the United States were imperfect,

[00:47:32] the goal was good because the goal was to live up to the principles

[00:47:38] of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which were inspired by the word of God.

[00:47:44] But as we today continue in this United States of America,

[00:47:48] to drift away, drift, drift, drift, drift away.

[00:47:53] And it's not just the those who are not walking with Christ,

[00:47:57] they're not the only ones who are drifting away.

[00:48:00] There are many cocky, proud Christians who walk around

[00:48:05] not caring about the very country that they are living in.

[00:48:09] And we're seeing the result of that.

[00:48:11] If you don't care about your own personal home, what happens to it?

[00:48:14] It gets dirty.

[00:48:17] You have furry little visitors inside, little mice that come in, uninvited.

[00:48:23] You have bugs.

[00:48:24] If you live in Arizona, all you might find a scorpion under your pillow,

[00:48:28] when you wake up or in your shoes.

[00:48:34] So we have to clean up our moral standards in the United States and in Great Britain

[00:48:42] and throughout the world.

[00:48:45] If we claim the name of Christ, then we have to claim his word,

[00:48:51] his principles, etc., and live according to these principles and precepts.

[00:48:56] And, you know, over time, man began to run things in the name of God.

[00:49:05] And then there came a religious system.

[00:49:09] By the time of the birth of Yeshua, the temple religious system had become so corrupt by the

[00:49:15] scribes, seduces and the Pharisees, it could not recognize the time of their visitation

[00:49:21] of the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

[00:49:24] The new wine had arrived, but the religious leaders would not recognize him.

[00:49:28] They ignored him and then wanted to destroy him.

[00:49:32] Just like today, religious leaders ignore what they should be doing,

[00:49:38] what they should be teaching.

[00:49:41] They ignore the example they should be setting.

[00:49:45] Back when Jesus was walking the earth, he ministered to all the people,

[00:49:49] even those religious leaders of the corrupt temple system.

[00:49:53] But Jesus made it perfectly clear that you cannot take his new wine and put it in old wine

[00:49:58] skin religious systems, nor do men put new wine into old wine skins.

[00:50:06] Otherwise, the wine skins burst and the wine pours out.

[00:50:11] And the wine skins are ruined, but they put new wine into fresh wine skins.

[00:50:19] Ah, and then both are preserved.

[00:50:24] And then it's very tasty if the grapes were good.

[00:50:28] Well, Jesus came preaching the kingdom of God, the kingdom of God message,

[00:50:33] and the kingdom of God conduct that Jesus exhibited and lived out for his disciples

[00:50:39] would be the fulfillment of the old is the new wine of God.

[00:50:43] If you wanted to live and function in the new system, the kingdom of God,

[00:50:47] that has roots, that began in Genesis, you must empty yourself of the old religious system of man.

[00:50:57] Jesus went to the cross, ascended to heaven, and sent back the Holy Spirit to guide us.

[00:51:03] This system worked perfectly for Christ's disciples up until the middle of the third

[00:51:08] century when Constantine instituted his tradition as a man.

[00:51:12] And I believe that Constantine meant well because he wanted to make

[00:51:18] the followers of Christ legal. He said they shouldn't be persecuted, but worry messed up.

[00:51:25] See many times, you know, there's a book that came out in the early, it was in the 1980s.

[00:51:33] The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[00:51:36] And the good intention, the well intentions Constantine ended up putting Christianity

[00:51:43] almost on the road to hell. Not literally, but a lot of hellish things have occurred and have

[00:51:50] seeped in to the church world. And now we have, it's all mixed up today.

[00:51:58] Christianity, Christians or the followers of the word, I think we're still the largest single

[00:52:04] organization on the planet. But one of the most unaffective. We have big numbers, but very little

[00:52:15] comparative impact. And you know, God gave man dominion over the earth, but man corrupted his own dominion.

[00:52:31] He corrupted the gift of dominion through his faulty relationship with Satan.

[00:52:37] And yes, yes, it was Eve first, but he didn't technically know any better.

[00:52:47] Adam knew what Adam should have done when he slipped off with Satan.

[00:52:52] Adam should have said, you know what, Lord, you know what? I'm not going to do this.

[00:52:58] Can you get me another one? Another one. Oh man, but we can all say that right.

[00:53:05] But I wonder what we would do if we were in Adam's place, will we have done any better?

[00:53:12] I just, you know, one has to wonder.

[00:53:17] Do you want me to say that out loud, Doug? Oh my goodness. Oh no, I can't do that.

[00:53:26] But anyway, so because of what man has done and allowed to happen, we were in control. We had power,

[00:53:38] but we became vain. And guess what? We don't operate in as much power as we should today,

[00:53:47] but we can recover as we recover our relationship with our Creator through his Son Jesus Christ.

[00:53:56] Not that I see that my time is up on this fake day. I'm Ron Edwards,

[00:54:01] reminding you to pray for your family, your friends, your nation and even your enemies,

[00:54:07] and to treat others the way you wouldn't want to be treated.

[00:54:10] Yeah, I'm Ron Edwards. Until next time, my friends, be good. Bye now.