Seasoned activist Warren Balogh shares his vision for America after Trump.
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[00:00:30] Well, back with a very good friend of mine, a friend of mine before I ever even knew he was a friend of mine, Warren Balog. You know, we were together in that wonderful summer of 2000 in Long Beach, California. He and I and his father, who is a man I greatly respect, and others were delegates for Pat Buchanan at the Reform Party nominating convention in 2000,
[00:00:59] where we stopped Donald Trump from getting that nomination. And, you know, little did we know that the man we stopped would go on to become a two-term president. And maybe he won it three times. Who knows? But we were there. And he's back with – you know, I met him for the first time, though, knowingly. God, what? You know, 15, 16 years later? You know, maybe longer than that. But we became fast friends, obviously, and still to this day, and he's with us now.
[00:01:29] He is a seasoned activist, and it's in his blood. His dad goes back many decades prior to that. We're going to talk about Warren's vision for America after Trump, his action plan for what we should be doing now with the playing field being what it is. But we're going to first say hello. Before all of that, we're going to say hello. Warren, great to have you back. I couldn't get you back on quickly enough after the election.
[00:01:58] James, thanks for having me, and I'm glad to be back when Keith makes his return here, which is pretty cool. Hi, Keith. And, yeah, I was really – I had a chance to listen to the whole show this time, and I was really laughing at Keith's suggestion that this is a pretty good deal, make monkey noises and get a million dollars. I love that. I did have one question about that, though, and this is a question I never hear anybody ask,
[00:02:24] which is why is it that monkey noises are so offensive to black people? They never say this. Like, what about dog noises or cat noises? Like, in other words, if they had gone by and they'd made cat noises, right, and they'd go meow, meow, meow, the media would not be losing their minds. But they make monkey noises, and they do lose their minds. So I don't know. That's sort of a – that's more on the media. What are they saying about black people, that monkey noises are offensive?
[00:02:55] I think the proverbial media Freudian slip, maybe? Well, I think black people know something about their genetic heritage, and possibly we don't. The ghost DNA or whatever, but something, yeah. I don't know. If I were those black students, I'd be more offended by the media saying that only monkey noises are offensive when you describe to black people. But anyway.
[00:03:22] Yeah, but, yeah, so let's get right into it. Well, before you do, before you do, before you do, I'll reset, my friend, and just say, if you listen to the whole show, you know, it was an interesting evolution tonight. You know, I mentioned in the beginning, as you say, if you agree with me that you are pro-white and understand the JQ, you are my brother, you know, what about someone who understands one but not the other?
[00:03:52] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Steve King, and I really do. And he was at our conference last year. He didn't have to do that. I mean, we've spent a lot of time together, been on the show a lot of times. You know, he had to quip about Iran at the end of the last hour about, you know, he understands why Trump had to do that. I don't know what the message is there. You know, why did Trump have to do that? You know, there may be something there above and beyond. I got a message from James, which I will share with you after the show.
[00:04:18] I'm telling you, there are certain topics that are off limits with certain guests, but, you know. But then there are some topics that are, you know. That we just can't resist. People like Warren. He was getting close. When he started talking about Jamie Raskin, I was like, he's going to do it. I wanted to go there. I wanted to go there. And when he was talking about Hakeem Jeffries, you know, Hakeem Jeffries, it's funny. Those two individuals. He's talking about a sellout to APAC. Well, yeah. Those two. Well, the left is calling Hakeem Jeffries APAC monkey.
[00:04:48] I'm not sure if you saw this. There was a whole controversy. No, we need to bring this in with Ole Miss. Well, you know, Hakeem Jeffries and Steve Cohen, who has recently voted out as a result, one of the few wins that Trump's redistricting gerrymandering got, both denounced us on the record, Keith, as being anti-Semites, as you'll recall during the Paul Babu fiasco. I remember Steve Cohen before he was in Congress. I had to bail him out and buy a bagel for him at a bakery one time.
[00:05:16] He came there in the morning to get his breakfast, which was cream cheese on a bagel, and he was out of money. But he still said you were reprehensible on the congressional record. Yeah, I know. Well, I should have brought up about the famous bagel incident. I'm sure Congressman King, he sounds like a great guy, like he's a good person. But I have to admit, I was twitching a little bit while he was talking a couple of times there.
[00:05:45] Even when he started bringing up the anecdotes from Angela Merkel, I was like, well, I can think of a couple anecdotes from a German chancellor myself to bring on the show, but maybe that's not appropriate. But no, I think that, you know, he's 100% right about Jamie Raskin. I actually did a show with the old modern politics. I'm just doing a solo show now on my sub stack, Modern Politics Radio. It's just me. But the show I used to do with Emily, when we are, I think it was our first show or first or second show,
[00:06:15] we did a deep dive on Jamie Raskin and his father. And, you know, it's funny, Steve King mentioned his father. Unbelievable. And Hakeem Jeffries, I was actually onto him back in 2022, and I did the research. His top three donors of the top five, the top three out of the five were separate Israeli lobby groups, not just AIPAC, but like two others. You know, he represents Brooklyn, I think. And Chuck Schumer, of course, is from Brooklyn.
[00:06:43] So now the entire Democratic Party is run out of Brooklyn. And it's, of course, you know, you know who is running them. And this is creating kind of a division inside the Democratic Party, because there's this kind of civil war happening. And I'm going to get into that, because it's very interesting to me what's going on in the Democratic Party. And it's really, it feeds into what I was going to say, what needs to happen. Well, do you think the same thing is happening, Warren, in the Republican Party, or at least is poised to happen? Poised to happen. Poised, yes. Poised to happen.
[00:07:13] I mean, this, okay, so my take, you know, I know we don't want to go retread the old stuff now with the election analysis, like you said. But my, I just got to, everything else I say depends on laying the groundwork. And I would say that, to me, I mean, it's, with respect to your guest, it's ridiculous to talk about voter fraud and things like this. I mean, this was a clear-cut case. Trump betrayed all his promises as spectacularly as he could.
[00:07:41] Tucker Carlson, actually, just did a great segment this week, this past week. People can go check it out. Where he talked about how Trump is already talking about doing an amnesty. He went on 60 Minutes. He's talking about doing an amnesty, and how Trump betrayed everything. I mean, he was on record saying he doesn't care how the war is affecting people. To me, Trump is an Israeli asset, 100%. He is a believer. He is like the RCA Victor trademark. He knows his master's voice.
[00:08:09] Yes, and, you know, it's funny. Another thing Steve King was talking about was the Dante and the circles of hell. And I was, I recalled that the ninth circle of hell, the lowest circle of hell in Dante's Inferno, was reserved for traitors. Traitors were the lowest level in the entire, of every type of scum and criminal and person that deserves to go to hell. Traitors were the worst. Traitors were the lowest.
[00:08:33] And if you look at Trump, and not just Trump, but his administration, to me, this is a treasonous, treasonous administration. He has listened to, this has been Laura Loomers and Mark Levin. It's been their show. That's not what the voters voted for, but it's been their show. They've gotten everything they want. And even now, Jared Kushner and Whitcoff, I mean, these two Jews right out of the ghetto are over there meeting with Putin, deciding foreign policy for 350 million Americans.
[00:09:02] So my thing with Trump was, I was delighted with this midterm result, I have to say. And not just because I'm being contrarian or I'm just so like anti, you know, whatever. It's to me, it comes down to, James, the thing of which is worse, the traitor or the enemy. To me, you cannot win a war, you cannot win anything facing forward, facing front, if you've got the traitor in your back twisting the knife.
[00:09:29] And I, you know, I was on your show in January of 2024, and I predicted that Trump would start a war with Iran. And I get why people had hopes in him that this time it would be different and everything. I'm not here to say, like, I told you so or anything like that. But I think you're right. It's over. It's done with. MAGA is finished as a movement right now. MAGA is done.
[00:09:51] Now, to your point, Keith, it now raises the possibility of a basically a civil war within the Republican Party. And I think it needs to happen. I think it needs to happen, because if you look at Marjorie Taylor Greene, for instance, or Thomas Massey, how Trump went after them, threatened Marjorie Taylor Greene, her son's life was threatened. And Trump said he was fine with it, basically. He told her the stuff he did to go after Massey just because Massey was pressing him on the Epstein connections.
[00:10:21] To me, they got their way, the Zionists. And it was one of the worst electoral defeats in history. And it's an unwinnable war. And so now is the time, in my opinion, and I wouldn't have said this prior to the election. Prior to the election, I would have said, stay the hell away from the Republican Party, because it's being run by Zionist traitors. And the worst thing we can do as white people, as white advocates, is hitch our wagon to Zionist traitors.
[00:10:50] Because they're just going to use our white populism to dupe people into fighting their wars for them. And when they're done, they're going to give us an amnesty. They're going to come after us the way they always do. But now, everything... Well, what about this, Warren? Go ahead, go ahead. Let me just ask you this. Were you ever under any misapprehension that Trump could have gotten elected president if he didn't have the Jews behind him? Do you think he could ever have been a success in New York real estate if he didn't know all
[00:11:19] about Jews and made peace with them? I wasn't. Well, that's the same is true, Phil. I think that was always the best case scenario, that he would do their bidding abroad. Maybe he could do a few things. Pete, I'm sure you've heard the slogan, with Jews you lose, right? That's really what it... What they say in Europe is that Jews like to own both sides of each coin, so they'll be conservative and liberal, okay? Oh, that's absolutely true. That's absolutely true. And you know what, though? I take the same position to white. See, this is the thing.
[00:11:49] When I heard Steve King talking, this is where I... I mean, I'm just an old Nazi, but here's what it comes down to for me. Or a young boy, as it were. It's not... It's not... I'm seasoned. You used that word seasoned several times. I like that, James. That's a nice way of saying getting old. We're both getting seasoned. You know, the truth is... You know, we're both... I'm 46. I'm pushing 50. I was... We're 20. You know, when we were together in Long Beach, you were younger than that.
[00:12:18] I mean, how in the hell does that happen that fast? But keep going. Keep going, brother. Yeah. Well, anyway. But I would say, though, you know, again, I'm not on Team Red versus Team Blue. I'm not on Team Republican versus Democrat. I'm not even on Team Right versus on Team Left. I'm on Team White versus Team Jew. That, to me, is the... That is the struggle that we have in this country. They're the people... I mean, again, you know, I don't think I'm out of line on this show to say the term Zog, where that term comes from, which is now popular.
[00:12:47] That term is gaining popularity on the left, which is crazy. And, you know, leftists will always freak out when they see people saying, oh, it's a white supremacist thing. Zionist-occupied government. I think it... It's actually more fashionable on the left to be anti-Jew than pro-white. It is. It absolutely is. But that's the combination, as we were talking about. To be pro-white and anti-Jew is the combination. Now, if you look at what we had... I mean, just one more thing about this last election.
[00:13:16] You talk about, you know, the Republicans lost. I mean, you have Vivek Ramaswamy. They foisted that guy. There was a guy named... I'm glad he lost. You know, I told you that on the phone, Warren. Yeah, no, there was a guy named... Dodd Indians are just right behind you. I'm glad the Jewess beat him. Oh, yeah. No, I am. Because it's, again, because the traitor or the traitor party, it's worse than facing the open enemy. But the Republican Party, they had this guy, Casey Putsch, ran in Ohio.
[00:13:46] Great campaign. He was pro-white. He was against Israel. Mark Lynch in South Carolina was running against Lindsey Graham. Trump goes out of his way to endorse Lindsey Graham. And then his sister, he goes out of his way to foist this Indian. I mean, he outspent Amy Acton like three to one. The good, decent white people in Ohio rejected that. Then you have Greg Abbott in Texas.
[00:14:12] I mean, if that's our Republican Party, the Republican Party has ruled Texas and presided over its transformation from a majority white state down to where whites are less than 40%. They're in the 30s in Texas. That was all under the Republican Party. And if you remember Greg Abbott, of course, he tried to ban Gab. Remember that? He's passing all. I mean, he's a guy who's an Israeli asset.
[00:14:37] So I would say here's why I think this was the best result possible. And I'm not just saying that out of sour grapes or to be bitter or something like that. I wanted to see the Democrats win by a landslide because I wanted to see this Zionist op called MAGA totally discredited so that there's openings now on the right but also on the left.
[00:14:59] I knew that if the Democrats win big, there's a lot of people right now in the grassroots. Remember, I used to be a Democrat when I was in college with the West Virginia Democratic Party, when it was under Robert C. Burke. Before you were a Reform Party advocate. It was after. It was after. It was after. After. Yeah, I'll tell you that whole story sometime. But you've got to remember, at that time, this is around 2005 and 2006,
[00:15:26] this is when the West Virginia Democratic Party was run by guys like Robert C. Byrd and Nicky Joe Rahal, who was big anti-Israel. They were not open. I see where you're going. Yeah, no, they were pro-Labor. I mean, you know, I used to joke, James, I think the Democratic Party historically has more of a history of pro-white stuff. Yeah, we talked about this. I mean, the Democratic Party, the Dixiecrats especially, but the Democratic Party,
[00:15:53] if you were voting Republican in the 1960s or the 1860s, what the hell were you doing? Well, what I was going to say, though, Warren, is this. I think that both parties are splitting up like the polar ice cap. The Democrats have turned into the anti-white socialist party. My hope is that the Republicans will become the pro-white populist party. All right, so that stage having been set, Warren, because here's what we've got to do. Here's what we've got to do, Keith.
[00:16:21] Keith doesn't even know this yet, but what we've got to do is this. We're skipping the floater breaks. We've got to take a hard bottom of the hour break. But when we come back in the last 30 minutes, it's all questions from the audience. I've got more than I can give to Warren. So we've got nine minutes left, and then we've got to go to questions. And Warren, we're going to try to take them as rapid fire as we can.
[00:16:42] But first, to Keith's point, just then, right now, you had given a speech at the recent NOVA conference. And then prior to that, you and I were at an event in Washington, D.C., back, I think it was August. And you've written an incredible substack article about this, about the path forward.
[00:17:07] And could it be through the Republican Party or remains of it post-Election Day 2026? Warren, take it away. What is the path forward for white advocacy? Well, OK, well, again, you guys can go, your audience can go read my whole essay. It's called On the Republican Party because I put a lot of background work into it about the nature of American political parties, what makes them different from European parties, why we always get screwed, why both parties.
[00:17:34] There's a whole big, long explanation with this. But since we have so much short time, basically what I was going to say is this. I think as a guy who has done mainstream party stuff and third party stuff in America, and I see the problems and limitations with both. If you're a third party, you're blocked from anything, as we know, you and I. And if you're in the mainstream parties, they use the popular issues to get elected.
[00:17:58] And it's the same old group of Jews and capitalists and plutocrats who just set the agenda with whatever, wherever you get elected. I think both parties need to be split. I think both parties need to face internal civil war. I'm very closely watching what's happening in the Democratic Party right now because there is a huge anti-Zionist feeling among the youth. There is a people, the youth, the young people in the Democratic Party are fed up with the corporate Wall Street owners of the Democratic Party.
[00:18:27] And they're pushing back on that, and there's a lot of pushback on Schumer and Jeffries. And I think that what you're going to see is this fight is going to break out into the open in some form on the left in the Democratic Party. Now, the same thing needs to happen on the right with the Republican Party or with forces on the right, whether they're in the Republican Party or not.
[00:18:51] But like I said, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson and Thomas Massey, their views have been vindicated by this election. So I think what needs to happen is in the same way that the Democrats are going to have a huge battle right now, and it's going to go on because they're not going to – it's not going to be like in the past with the Democratic Party. There is going to be a huge fight over support for Israel and Zionism and these foreign wars and other things as well that we don't have time to get into.
[00:19:20] But there is going to be a huge fight between the grassroots and the elites who control the Democratic Party. And I think it's going to get bloody. I mean, I think it's going to get where there's like factions ready to walk. We have to make sure that the same thing happens within the Republican Party. I don't know, Keith, to your point that the Republican Party could become the vehicle for white people.
[00:19:43] I think, though, that the Republican Party, because so many white people vote Republican, and it's still the vast majority of white people are in the Republican Party, but you see they all stayed at home or voted Democrat. In many cases, states and regions and districts which had been Trump – 25 points Trump – swung now 10 points to the Democrat because of the dislike of what Trump has done, the corruption and the war. The Jews. I mean, Lou was talking about that last week.
[00:20:12] Lou was talking about that. But it would be ironic, wouldn't it, Warren, that the party of Lincoln would become the party of white advocacy. But is it possible? I think it's only possible if – here's the way it could happen. What needs to happen is people need to start causing problems within the Republican Party on two issues. If on the issue of the white race, it's not quite totally acceptable in the Republican Party to say,
[00:20:42] I am pro-white, I'm for white people. But it is totally acceptable to say, I am against anti-whiteness. I'm opposed to the anti-whiteness. So that's a position that you can go into any Republican meeting. Now, you're going to get pushback. But any Republican meeting – and that's what the voters want, as evidenced by their rejection of somebody like Vivek Ramaswamy, for instance. That's what they want. The rank-and-file of the Republican Party, who are white, they don't want anti-whiteness. They don't want to deal with that. They don't want us to go back to woke.
[00:21:12] So that's a position – like I said in my essay, James, it's like a bridgehead position. It's a bridgehead that we can then go in and expand that position and push out anyone who has a problem with that or fight with them. I mean, try to remove them or challenge them. The other position, though, is anti-Zionism. And again, the two have to go together. They have to go together. But right now, when you have the vice president of the United States coming out and saying that this war – that we lost this election because of our relationship to Israel –
[00:21:41] it is acceptable for the first time in my life to take the Pat Buchanan position on Israel and Zionism and bring it into the mainstream in the Republican Party. They're going to try to stop people from doing it. But this is something I think everyone needs to do. And the thing is, you have to push this. So to get to the final point, if enough people can challenge these views in the Republican Party and really make a fight of it and not take no for an answer –
[00:22:11] in other words, our way or the highway, if you want our support, if you want the support – Do what the Democrats have done. I don't see Saeed or Mondami moderating their views on Jews. Right, exactly. I was happy, I'll say, one, because his opponent, Mike Rogers – first of all, the guy's a liberal fed. He was an FBI agent. He's an FBI agent. What about the guy in South Carolina who said that Iranians are putting their – I saw this on your telegram.
[00:22:40] He said Iranians are putting babies in microwaves. And then when they were challenged on the Minam school bombing, when he was challenged on the Minam school bombing, he said they were human shields. That guy – what's his name? I forget his name. Leonard, I think. That guy is – or no, not Leonard. I'm thinking of the Ohio. I forget his name. But he's – yeah, he's a South Carolina guy. So the second district, I think. That guy has actually taken so much – he's taken half a – what was it? Half a million dollars from AIPAC.
[00:23:09] They bought him cheap, actually, compared to some of them. But he's the co-chair of the Israel caucus, and he sits on the House – I think the Foreign Relations Committee. These kind of people are not our friends, James. They are not with us. I mean, we have to either fight them, challenge them, remove them, primary them, or be a spoiler candidate if necessary to knock them out. Let the Democrat win so that in the next race we can run as the Republican. But I think the civil war needs to happen –
[00:24:06] We have to have vehicles for power. We can use them. We can't. We can use both parties. We can use neither. The Jews can use both. The corporations use both. Neither one has a real set ideology. As you said, they changed their ideologies over the years. It used to be the party of Lincoln. Now it's half-assed the party of white people, you know, by default. But the thing is, if you say, is this our position – is this where we can make our stand, is what you're saying? Well, the question is, if you've got the whole thing filled with traitors at the top level, then absolutely not. You're not going to be able to stand.
[00:24:36] So I think that's the fight. Don't you think we cleaned out a bunch of traitors on November the 3rd? Well, unfortunately, the music is playing, and we've got more questions for one than we can get to. Contrarian praising? Insightful. We'll be back. Liberty Newswire. You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from Town Hall. I'm John Scott.
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[00:30:13] He believes there is a path for people like us to, through their young Republican clubs, through other methods of activism, to infiltrate the Republican Party, especially at this point in their nadir, this time of discontent, and really take over because the youth is on our side. They really are. Unfortunately, they don't have any money.
[00:30:39] Well, that's where the enthusiasm is, and that's where the advancements will be made. And there is a real argument for that that exists in fact, not just hyperbole. We know people who have gone to these young, you know, Warren, I was talking to you about this, people who have gone to the young Republican clubs in Texas and elsewhere. It's basically hives of white nationalism. And so there can be an opportunity there, even in the party of Lincoln,
[00:31:06] which has never been, you know, never been something that I have been looking for. It wasn't really Lincoln that was bad. It was the radical Republicans who probably had Lincoln assassinated. All right, but nevertheless, Keith, we're done. We're done for the night. We had the first hour. We had Steve King. We had the first 30 minutes with Warren. Warren, the last 30 minutes are with our audience, and we have had a flood of questions come in. So, Warren, here's how we're going to have to do it. It's going to have to be rapid fire.
[00:31:35] We're going to go as fast as we can with the time remaining. And these are questions from the audience, and we'll begin with this. Great question.
[00:32:01] No, basically, real quick, our experience with the Reform Party. James, I stayed in the Reform Party, as you did, for years after Buchanan left. He walked away from it. And we were trying to turn that into a nationalist third party, but there were many other factions. There were Perotist factions. There was a big battle over the 100% right-to-lifers. There were all kinds of other people involved.
[00:32:25] I think if nationalists move on, our people, if Tucker or Massey or MTG announce a third-party run, my advice is everybody, let's go with Nathan Bedford for us. Get there first with the most. Get right there. Storm these meetings. Get involved. Get on the ground floor. And whether they stay around or not, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tucker or Massey, all of whom I like and all of whom I would support for president, they're all fine.
[00:32:54] I mean, I have differences with all three of them, but they're all good enough for me. But if we get there and we become the foot soldiers of whatever that movement is, then we'll be there whether they stay there or not, you know, to take the party infrastructure that's built. You don't get these chances very often. We had one with the Reform Party. There was one with Wallace, with the American Independence Party. It only comes around maybe once a generation where you get a chance like this. We're a major figurehead. And I was last thing I'll say on that. I know we've got to be quick.
[00:33:22] I was joking with a friend of mine recently who's a national socialist, and I said even Hitler needed Ludendorff. He needed his clout, you know, prior to 1923. I mean, Ludendorff was an old conservative. But Hitler joined – you know, when the putsch happened, the New York Times reported that Ludendorff was the leader of it because Hitler was a nobody. Nobody knew who he was. So he had to attach himself to Ludendorff's reputation and clout. You know, he was a famous World War I general.
[00:33:50] So if one of these figures, who I think are American heroes, all three of them, if they do something like this, we've got to go join them, help them, and then we will be there to take over the infrastructure of whatever remains after the campaign. To pick up the pieces. All right. Here it is. So here's what we've got, Warren. We've got more questions than we have time for. So we're going to go as fast as we can, 60 seconds or less, and we're going to open up the airwaves to the audience.
[00:34:17] These are questions that have come in since we announced the lineup tonight, does Steve King and Warren Baldwin. As Elvis said, too much talk, not enough action. Warren Balog. Yeah, that was a 40-in slip. Warren Baldwin was a friend of mine in the beginning campaign when I was 19 and 20 years old.
[00:34:37] Warren Baldwin was a 70-year-old guy from New York who was totally, totally with you, Warren, to just put it mildly. And he was also a delegate to the Reform Party Convention in Long Beach in 2000. But Warren Bailog, our guest now, as fast as we can, 60 seconds or less. Next question.
[00:35:04] A set of Jews have used subversive tactics to take over entire towns in New York and New Jersey. The Church of Scientology has done the same in Clearwater, Florida. Neither of these groups work through democratic political channels. Can we learn from them? I mean, yeah, but not really because Jews operate there. Most do, too. Yeah, listen, Jews have their own way of operating.
[00:35:33] They are subversive. They are parasites. They have a whole different way of operating that is appropriate to if you're a tiny ethnic minority and you're trying to subvert and secretly take control of a society. Like, we are, you know, that's why I always, all the superheroes are Jewish. All the comic book superheroes were created by Jews. And you can always tell because they always have a secret identity. If you look at our Western heroes, guys like Hercules, you know, people like that, Siegfried,
[00:36:02] our heroes, you don't need a secret identity because you're of your people. You don't have to, you know, put on a mask and pretend you're someone you're not. So I think there's only so much we can learn from how Jews operate. My thing is go out there among the people. Tell it like it is. This is what Trump did. He just turned out to be a liar and a traitor. But if someone came, was sincere and did what Trump did and just rallied our people straightforwardly, I think that works much more than you think. We don't need to try to copy what the Jews are. We're not going to be as good as they are at it.
[00:36:33] All right. Next question. Excuse me. We really have to move fast now. People in our movement speak five to ten years. No, no, it's not your fault. It's mine. Five to ten year plans. Your plan on infiltrating the Republican Party clubs, which is something you touched on in your most recent substack, which I would love to give you the opportunity to promote. Meanwhile, though, the browning of America is happening at an exponential rate. The last election approved this.
[00:37:03] Should we admit that we don't have time to persuade anyone and must accept that it will be a vanguard of activists who will have the only chance of stopping our genocide? I think that I don't like to use the word infiltrate. I don't think we should think of it. Infiltrate means to hide and go in secret and sneak in. I don't think we should. That's been tried for decades. It never works. I even was joking with someone. I said, let's call it a Republican invasion strategy.
[00:37:33] We should go in openly. Like I said, you can at least be openly against anti-whiteness and openly against Zionism. We shouldn't try to hide or sneak. I also think that the ship has sailed on white America. I mean, we're 50 to 54 percent of the population right now. The Trump administration is trying to remove race and ethnicity from the 2030 census. I don't know if you guys caught that, but they're trying to remove it because they don't want people to know how much of a minority we are.
[00:38:02] We will probably be under 50 percent by then. I think our best strategy is to strengthen our position and our leverage as a racial group, give up on America itself, but just strengthen our position. And then we can, in whatever the fallout is here, we can negotiate and have the leverage to carve out our space. But I think trying to, you know, trying to somehow reverse it at this point is impossible.
[00:38:31] It can't be done. I mean, maybe it could be done after 150 years reconquista, but it's not going to be done in an election. You tell your audience that Warren Baitlog is going to be on and the job of you as a host evaporates. The questions come in and they are better than anything you could have come up with yourself. Next question for you, Warren.
[00:38:56] Do you think the 2028 elections will be like 1968 and 1972 with assassinations, riots, and both parties splintered by third parties? I don't know about assassination and riots, but I think that both parties split by third party. Yes, I think that'll happen. I think that there will be more support for a third party. And James, you and I know, you remember what happened with Nader and Buchanan, both of them. They were both in the same boat and how they were ignored and how they were kept out of the debate.
[00:39:25] And no one was ready to hear the issues that Nader and Buchanan were talking about in 2000. Right now, it's funny, Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan are both still alive. They're both old, but they're both still alive. And they've both been vindicated. And those issues, now the grassroots is on the left. The grassroots is ready to hear what Ralph Nader was talking about. On the right, they're ready to hear what Pat Buchanan was talking about. And I think we could actually see a major third party from either the left or the right, an independent campaign, something to fragment the two-party system.
[00:39:53] And I think the thing that's driving it is the fact that Americans' lives keep sucking. Everything is getting worse and worse and worse and worse. We get hope and change. We get make America great again. It's the same old shit. You know, betrayal for Israel, for Wall Street. So I think we're getting to the point where we will see actual third party. And no matter who it is or what they do, I will support it.
[00:40:16] I think that's the first prerequisite for any progress for our people is for the two-party system to be fragmented and to be broken up. Is there any other group, Warren, besides white people that white people might look to as being allies so that we would get enough numbers to actually be able to control elections and to rule? Well, all kinds.
[00:40:41] I mean, you look at what Cortez did when he went into Mexico. Cortez was surrounded. He was in a non-white continent in the middle of a non-white empire. And Cortez, no, seriously, I know it's funny, but, I mean, Cortez was the one. No, no, no. I love Cortez. Cortez is a hero. I mean, I have said more so many times, if I could take the DeLorean of Back to the Future to any point in history,
[00:41:06] it would be to the moment where Cortez and Moniz and Mehmet on the causeway at Tenochitlan. Oh, yeah, no, it's a great – it's one of the most heroic, glorious stories in the history of the white race. And that's really – I mean, you know, we owe it to the Spanish, actually, our race establishing itself in this hemisphere. But, yeah, Cortez, he was surrounded by enemies, but he doesn't get enough credit as a diplomat.
[00:41:33] He was very good at making alliances with everybody that was against the Aztecs, and there were a lot of different tribes that were against the Aztecs. I think there's all – basically, Keith, the sky is the limit. I mean, even blacks, even blacks – I mean, Muslims are an obvious – there's a lot of overlap with Muslim communities that we could find common ground. I know some people might not want to hear that, but it's just a fact. But blacks even, I'll tell you this, blacks, it comes down to the gibbs. They have no love for Jews.
[00:42:01] And if you just told the blacks, you say, look, okay, you're getting this much right now. Well, how about this? If we expropriate the wealth of the top Jewish billionaires and we cut you in on a chunk, and it's a larger chunk than what you're getting now, ground out of the tax dollars of working-class white people, are you with us? And I guarantee a lot of them would be like, yeah, let's support the Nazis against the Jews because we're going to get more out of this deal than we will if we support the Jews. So I think the sky's the limit.
[00:42:30] The only group that we're truly irreconcilable with are the Jews. You can't trust them. You can't work with them. And they're the ones in power. So obviously they're the ones that hold all the cards right now. So they're the big enemies. They're the Aztecs to our Cortez. Well, I mean, all you needed was a couple of hundred men to burn the boats mentality, and then you can do anything. Am I right? I mean, still to this day, if you had the Cortez mentality, everything could be taken back.
[00:42:59] Everything could be taken back. Absolutely, James. Absolutely. All right. Here's the next one. And we do have to move quickly. I'm looking at the clock, and I'm sweating. Here's the next one. A little bit longer set up here. But recently governments – I'm reading this now here. Recently governments worldwide have advised their citizens to be prepared for major system breakdowns. Actually, we have seen this over the course of the last weekend.
[00:43:27] During the recent and ongoing riots in France, the French were told that they had to protect themselves from the rioters. This week saw a massive collapse of Microsoft systems serious enough to close airports and many government agencies. Our digital system is obviously very vulnerable to attack and failure.
[00:43:47] Rather than joining Republican clubs, shouldn't whites of all ages prepare for collapse but also how to take advantage of that collapse? Well, I mean, you can do all of the above, I think. I mean, I'm not just saying just join Republican clubs. I'm saying your position – you know, you go in, you try to take over your local Republican group with your nationalists and kick out the Zionists and the anti-whites that are the traitors in the Republican Party. But that's not all you've got to do.
[00:44:16] You've got to do other things as well. And, yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with anything else, any kind of prepping or martial arts or activism or anything else. But I'm just saying right now the Republican Party is uniquely vulnerable. They have had massive defeat. MAGA is totally discredited. The cult of personality with Trump is broken. So now they are uniquely vulnerable to not infiltration but invasion, as I said. But that doesn't preclude doing anything else as well.
[00:44:45] Okay, next question. If whites are reduced to a remnant race, will the Jews and MUDs – I'm reading this verbatim – allow us to live and perhaps use us when needed to keep the world operating? Will we be the new Amish? Well, I mean, that's the plan right now. You know, I just watched – with my daughter, I just watched the 1954 British animated version of Animal Farm.
[00:45:14] And if you watch that today, it's funny because Animal Farm, the pigs are basically the Jews. And in white America, I liken to Boxer, the horse. We've all read that book, right? Remember Boxer? He's like, I will work harder. And he pulls and he pushes and he does everything to make the farm work. And then, of course, when he injures himself, they send him off to the glue factory. And that's how I view white America.
[00:45:38] So I don't think they're trying to – I don't think they're trying to destroy us so much as they are trying to reduce us to a level where they can kind of control us, keep us here to run things, keep us to fight wars. I tell you, let me just tell you this real quick before we go. I think they want the white working class – they want the white to be the working class that keeps the heating, ventilation, air conditioning, electricity, et cetera, going. But they want us as far as possible from any levers of power in government or business.
[00:46:08] I totally agree, Keith. I completely agree. Well, that leads to the very next question, actually, Warren and Keith. Can you give an example from history when our race faced a similar existential crisis as this? I mean, all the time. You know, like, again, in this hemisphere, we – you know, our situation isn't that different from Cortez right now. But, yeah, I mean, you know, look, we've overcome so many things.
[00:46:36] I mean, you read about the Black Death, you read about the Mongols and the Turks, and you read about the – you know, there's a great famine. This is one that always inspires me. The great famine. It happened in – Well, Warren, excuse me for this. I would just say very quickly, I mean, I bring up the situation with, you know, the very birth of the Age of Exploration.
[00:46:57] I mean, we're not too far removed tonight from a month ago when we were celebrating Columbus Day and, you know, the commissioning of Columbus by Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand, you know, which was basically, you know, a celebration of the repudiation of the Jews and the Moors or the Muslims, as we call them now, in, you know, Spain and in Portugal. And, you know, that led to the Age of Exploration and everything that came from it.
[00:47:25] And, you know, I say that, you know, certainly that that can happen again. But, I mean, people say that what is very different now than it is then because, you know, social media and the media and the way people can immigrate now that they couldn't do then, it is very different. And that's true.
[00:47:46] But is there an underlying similarity to overcoming one's circumstances at the time that we can latch on to even in very different circumstances, you know, 600 years later? The short answer is yes. I mean, there's a hundred and even if we're down our numbers, there's like 170 million white people in America. This is not a group. I have the total faith in nature and in biology, James.
[00:48:15] A population that large and that spread out over a territory this great is not going to just go extinct overnight. And I think it's very important. It's more a question of how bloody is it going to get? How difficult is it going to get for us to stop the – We basically – we ran the world by the year 1900. White people were 30 percent of the world population. We controlled most of the – almost all the continents on Earth.
[00:48:43] And then we had two bloody civil wars, basically, like inter-white civil wars. That's what the two world wars were. Thank you, Winston Churchill. Yeah, and yes. And we're recovering from that. But populations expand and contract in nature all the time. Right now, our population is contracting. In many ways, this is our century of humiliation, certainly Europe. This is Europe's century of humiliation, like what China experienced in the 19th century. But we will come back from this 100 percent.
[00:49:13] It's just a question of how difficult is it going to be. And you think, though, Warren, coming back full circle, that white nationalist activism through the vehicle – and that's all that matters – what is the body that advances our position? You and I were laughing about it a couple of days ago on the phone. Could it be the party of Lincoln? Could it be the party that subjugated my ancestors in the south? You're from a little bit up north. I'm from down here.
[00:49:39] You know, I was down in Corinth with Trump last month, and my ancestor fought in the Battle of Corinth. My ancestor fought in the Battle of Shiloh, my Confederate great-grandfather. Could it be that party that is the party – the vehicle for our survival? I mean, is it possible? You say – I mean, maybe. I mean, basically, no. But the parties are weapons, though. They're just tools. It's tools.
[00:50:07] It's like, is this gun that's being held by our enemies, could that be the tool of our salvation? Yeah, if we take it away from them. You know, if we take that gun away from them. Right now, though, you've got to understand, the Republican Party is held by our enemies. It is Miriam Adelson's party. It is Mark Levin's party. It is Laura Loomer's party. And we're just along for the ride. So I think the thing is, we have to take it away from them. But, you know, again, I'm open to – I have no attachment to the Republican Party, and I think that's the attitude we all need to have.
[00:50:36] Our attachment has to be to the white race. To the extent that we engage with the Republican Party, it's only if we can use it to our benefit, which only means if we can kick the Zionists out or at least fight them, make their lives difficult. But, again, I could see a time even where – like I said, I spent time in the West Virginia Democratic Party when it wasn't anti-white.
[00:50:57] I could see in certain red states where the Democratic Party is atrophied where groups of nationalists could take control of the local Democratic Party. So I'm – all options are on the table. Right now I think the Republican Party is uniquely vulnerable. There's going to be a narrow window here where they are, frankly, after this election. So I think we need to take advantage of that, and that's what my essay was about. But I'm not – you shouldn't get attached to any one method. Yeah.
[00:51:24] Warren, where can people read your most recent essay, and where can they learn more from you through modern politics? Just go to Substack. If you actually – if you just Google my name, the key is to spell my name right. My last name is spelled B-A-L-O-G-H. And thank you, James, for always pronouncing my name right. I really appreciate that. B-A-L-O-G-H. Of course, in Hungarian, it's like Balog. So this is just some weird anglic. So to say Balog is a weird anglicized thing.
[00:51:53] But B-A-L-O-G-H. Search my name on Google. Substack, it'll come up. You can find my Substack. My show, Modern Politics Radio, is paywalled. It's like $8 a month on Substack. So basically like $2 per episode. I do a weekly show. They usually go on pretty long, like three hours, four hours my last one was. But you can see my speech that I gave to Nova. It was called The End of MAGA and the Future of White America. That is there for free. I encourage everyone to watch that.
[00:52:21] I actually gave the speech about 10 days before the midterms. And I predicted exactly what was going to happen. And if you want to read my recent essay on the Republican Party, that's not behind a paywall either. You can find that on my Substack. Well, that's a wrap for tonight, folks. We'll be back next week. And it'll be hard to top this. I mean, this is the diversity of opinion and analysis that you can expect from TPC. Well, I tell you what, we've danced around with Steve.
[00:52:48] But Warren is playing as a billy goat's ass on a stump, as I used to hear country people say. You know, but it's all consistent, though. That's the thing. That's the thing. I mean, I love Steve. I love Warren. They're a lot closer than they are different. I mean, I can tell you that. They're both good guys. Yeah, more than you know. More than you know. But nevertheless, great. Go ahead. Go ahead, Warren.
[00:53:19] Here. Oh, did we lose you? Oh, no. I can hear you now. I can hear you now. Well, Warren, I appreciate it. I couldn't get you on fast enough after the election. I wanted to have you on and remind people of the two truths. If you're pro-white, if you're aware of the JQ, you are brothers.
[00:53:40] And regardless of the tactics and the methods that you implemented during the Trumpian era, these are the issues and the questions that we close ranks on. Appreciate you so much, my friend. And the years and the history and the experiences that we have shared together. And I look forward to so many more. We'll be back next week, our last show before Thanksgiving.
[00:54:09] Am I right about that? Yeah, Thanksgiving is the Thursday after that. Warren, keep it between the ditches, buddy. We're pulling for you. And then we get into the Christmas season here on TPC. Take care, gentlemen. Thanks for having me on. Your best to you and Emily, your wife, the great Emily, and your kids who are so very well-named, I might add. And we'll talk to you again soon. Not soon enough, though.
[00:54:34] Talk to the rest of y'all next week. Good night, everybody. God bless you.