Radio Show Hour 3 – 2026/08/22

[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.

[00:00:28] Well, folks, from time to time, we like to prove it to you that we are live and unrehearsed and uncensored. And tonight, one of the most interviewed guests all time in TPC's voluminous history, Voluminous. Voluminous. Yes, thank you, Keith. Thank you. I have my own dictionary over here. Voluminous history is, well, we missed it.

[00:00:57] And I was beginning to have some concerns because we've never missed him, even in all these years and all these appearances. Dr. Kevin MacDonald, I was thinking, you know, was it a, God forbid, a car wreck? I mean, what had happened here? He was winning a gold medal in the Senior Olympics. Well, he has joined us now.

[00:01:18] And I was honored to hear, Kevin, that you stuck around and actually were listening to Pat Godwin's appearance in the second hour. And with that having been said, I mean, if Kevin MacDonald needs an introduction, you've never listened to the program before. I mean, obviously, we're talking to the Professor Emeritus of... He's on Heidi Byrick's hit parade. Well, we'll talk about that, too. Psychology at California State University, Long Beach.

[00:01:48] The author of so many books that have really just changed the game and the understanding of Jewish power and influence, including the culture of critique, individualism, and the Western liberal tradition. And, well, others as well. We only have him for one segment tonight, so we'll forego all of that because you know him. But, Kevin, I was honored to hear in the break that you were listening to Pat Godwin of Selma, Alabama. Yeah, I really enjoyed it.

[00:02:13] You know, it's not something I, you know, I really am not familiar with that much. But it's great to hear these people. You know, they're so patriotic and they really have this love for the South that you don't see. I don't see love for the Midwest. People in the South really have that. And they're aware of their history and they're proud of it.

[00:02:42] It's really inspiring to hear it. Well, thank you for saying that. It's really touching, isn't it? Really. It is different. I mean, there is a love for here and it is a prerequisite for a separate nation to have this. And as watered down it has become over the decades and even a couple of centuries, you know, a century now. But it does still exist and it certainly exists with Pat Godwin and Selma. And so for you to have stuck around, you know, it's almost as if it was meant to be.

[00:03:13] You called in and you heard that and now we're commenting on it. But in any event, we had had you scheduled for just a brief cameo appearance in the first hour to talk about the further evolution of the SBLC indictment handed down by the Department of Justice earlier this year. And we had talked about that back in April when it was first manifesting. But you had posted about this at the Occidental Observer dot net.

[00:03:41] And that was the arrest of Heidi Byrick. Now, we mentioned this when Glenn Allen was on in the first hour. But you had commented, and I quote, that Heidi Byrick had made your eight your last eight years at California State University of Long Beach miserable. She actually showed up on campus and riled up the faculty in calling you a racist and an anti-Semite. And that result resulted in numerous battles on campus.

[00:04:10] Kevin, you know, I call that and I said this in the first hour, I call that social and economic terrorism. But what was that like? I mean, again, for engaging in the freedom of expression and the freedom of dissent as an academic scholar to have somebody come in and and sort of stir that up against you. What was your reaction at the time, which was a very different time than we live in now?

[00:04:35] Yeah, at the time, I wasn't as inured to all the criticism and hate that people like me and you and everybody associated with our ideas become used to. I but in 2008, she came or 2006 it was. And and just riled up the faculty. I get on my computer in the morning and I have all these hostile emails, you know, from people I know.

[00:05:05] And I walked down the halls and people would, you know, they wouldn't talk to me. They wouldn't look at me. And it was just people I've known for years, you know. It was a brutal time. But I just, you know, I just got used to it. And I said, I'm not going to leave. You know, what's the point? And stuck it out. And that was a real experience.

[00:05:32] You know, they these departments actually wrote, you know, these sort of manifestos against me, including my own department, psychology. But all of the pretty much a lot of a lot of departments in the College of Liberal Arts, they drafted these statements of how horrible I was and how bad my research was. And, you know, I have to defend myself. And so I would reply every time that somebody said something substantive.

[00:06:02] And so it took a lot of my time at that time. And finally, the whole College of Liberal Arts made a, you know, a statement against me. So it was pretty brutal. And, you know, again, I didn't see anything that anybody really said that really contradicted that I really worried about from an election standpoint. It was, you know, you're a racist. You're going to understand my dad.

[00:06:31] The stuff that I've gotten used to now. But, again, at the time, it was hurtful. No question about it. And, you know, I started getting my classes scheduled at weird times. I have one class at 8 o'clock in the morning and one at, you know, 7 at night. A seminar that will last until 10. You know, my schedule was ridiculous. And he was gone all day.

[00:06:59] And, you know, my poor dog and everything. Anyway, I made a trip. And it's just a distant memory now. We used you as an example earlier in the show of the type of pressure they put on people. We talked to Glenn Allen who lost his job as a, I guess, a prosecutor in Maryland or in Baltimore. They tried everything they could. You were probably a tenured professor, but that didn't stop them.

[00:07:29] They tried everything else. But let me just encourage you with these words. It could have been worse. She could have tried to bend down with you like the head of the National Alliance. All right. We're not going to go to it. They wanted to. Yeah. They wanted to fire me. The SPLC explicitly wanted me to get fired. But the university did not do that. And really, I think they understood that they wouldn't have a leg to stand on it if there was a lawsuit.

[00:07:58] Well, you know, again, just the fact, though, Kevin, that she flew from at that time where she was working at her place of work and her place of residence, Montgomery, Alabama, all the way out to Long Beach, California, to rile up an insurrection against you for engaging in nothing more than your freedom of expression,

[00:08:20] your freedom of opinion, your freedom of thought as a tenured university professor at a major American college. I mean, this is really something. I mean, so I would ask you this, my friend. That is your reaction to the initial indictment back in the late spring and then the newest development about her arrest and where this may be going. I mean, what was your reaction to this as someone who had suffered from that?

[00:08:48] That I don't think I'm exaggerating to say that form of terrorism. Yeah, well, part of it is just it's hilarious that she would get arrested and get busted for giving money to her to her live in boyfriend. So she has a guy that really suffered. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you look at this woman and I used to make fun of her.

[00:09:19] As we say in the South, she'd make a freight train take a dirt road. The donut lady, I called her. She looked like a stack of used tires. All right, all right, all right. Yeah, she was, she was. Anyway, yeah, I'm glad it's happening to her. And I think there's something to it. I mean, you can't, you know, and this is false pretense. She's benefiting personally from this.

[00:09:47] And it's amazing. So I think. Yeah, I mean, you know, what do you think about that? Unlike Glenn and even unlike Keith, who are both attorneys, you and I can observe this as laymen, although you're much more educated than I am as a college professor. By the way, I would ask you, Keith, can you imagine? Because I've seen the pictures. You could have been, you know, Virginia Abernathy had an office. I mean, she may.

[00:10:16] I would have to ask her. I should know this because I met Virginia earlier than I met anyone else. Even before I met Keith, even before I met anyone. I met Virginia on the Buchanan campaign back in 99 and 2000. So I've actually known Virginia Abernathy longer than anyone else in this cause that I've met since then because I met her so early as a result of the Buchanan connection in Tennessee because she lived here and I lived here. But, you know, they gave her a hard time in Vanderbilt as well.

[00:10:45] But I can't remember if Virginia actually taught at that time classroom courses. I mean, you could actually have been a student and been in the classroom with Kevin. Can you imagine that college experience, Keith? Well, look, it just tells you that there's no depth that is too low for the left to descend to in their effort to control and censor free speech. That's not what I'm asking about.

[00:11:10] What I'm asking about is can you imagine being a college student and having the privilege of having Kevin McDonald with an Expo marker on the whiteboard in front of you as you. That'd be wonderful. But then on the other hand, to spoil it all would be Heidi Byrick showing up. So what was that like? Eventually the ADL was weighed in too. All right. So what's that like? The ADL came. All right. So tell us. I mean, did it have any impact?

[00:11:37] I mean, you talked about you have talked in previous, you know, over the years you've been, I think, I don't know the exact number, top one, two or three of our most interviewed guests over the years. You've become a lifelong friend. I mean, you know your relationship with this program. But we've talked about, you know, how the faculty responded to it because they wanted to maintain their, you know, their privilege. They wanted to maintain their social standing, I think is what I'm looking for. So did the student body itself ever give you a hard time or were they?

[00:12:08] Well, they were a long time. Yeah. At the beginning of the semester, you know, I'm sitting there, you know, reading student names. I'm making sure everybody's right. And these guys come in and they just go off on me. You know, they were not students. They were just trying to get students to drop by course. And I'm thinking, that's great. Fewer students to grade. But anyway. Same thing. Yes, it was weird.

[00:12:36] And they came to a couple of classes, I think. And then I called the police department. And I don't know if anything, you know, nothing really happened after that. But it was, you know, a little scary at the time because I didn't know what they were going to do. And they were just yelling at me and stuff. I mean, you talked about your background. I mean, you talked about your background growing up in Wisconsin.

[00:13:01] And you came from sort of a left-wing kind of environment, which you have in that upper Midwest. But you have learned just how pernicious the organized left and Jewish power and influence in particular in America is. And they obviously tried to harry you out of your position. Yeah. Yeah. They wanted me out of there and wanted to make my life as difficult as possible.

[00:13:28] And these professors just totally, you know, went along with it. And the people I would say would have lunch with for years. They wouldn't. One guy would continue to have, we would have dinner, but not on campus. You know, he didn't want us to be seen with you. But we stayed friends until the end. And he eventually died, actually. But anyway, it was very sad.

[00:13:58] But, you know, eye-opening experience to see people turning. Find out who your real friends are, don't you? Yeah. Well, and there ain't nobody there that was a real friend. Well, I mean, you look at your scholarship and you're looking into these important, the civilizational level questions. And you're trying to give it your honest approach based upon the facts.

[00:14:26] And that's what, isn't that what the college or the university experience is supposed to be about, this debate, this open and free debate without regard for what is, you know, in vogue in this present time? But it isn't necessarily that. It certainly is not necessarily that case. It is not that case at all. But nevertheless, you persisted. But anyway, we go back to full circle here. Tell us what the ADL did to you. I'm curious. You whetted my appetite with that.

[00:14:56] Yeah. In addition to hiding the SPLC, what did the ADL do on the campus of California State University? Well, this whole thing culminated in this big meeting on campus. And I was thinking of going, but then I said, geez, it's going to be awful. I didn't go, but the ADL was there. And the SPLC was there. And they wrote it up in the newspaper.

[00:15:21] And it was just, you know, they tried to make as big a deal as they, you know, get everybody to be aware of this. Norenberg trials. Norenberg trials. Yeah, yeah. That's what it was, man. It was something. And, yeah, I come from a leftist background that, like everybody, practically, where I'm from. In academia. That's the way it was. Yeah. And then, well, I mean, just, yeah. And in terms of when you were born and where you were born, I mean, that was the culture there. I went to college here in Memphis.

[00:15:52] I went through the 60s. I had my light under a bushel when I went to college. Yeah. You know, it's crazy. Yeah. I went through the 60s. And I was, I went on page with the 60s. I became a radical. And I met a lot of Jews at that point. When you get into radical political politics, you're going to meet a lot of Jews. Well, I think that was something that, you know, the late Lincoln, George Lincoln. You could be their Shabbat boy.

[00:16:20] You don't have to dig deep into communism. You don't have to dig deep into communism until you find, you know, the secret behind it or the Jewish influence behind it. Well, Kevin, I mean, this brings up an interesting point. At what point, and I'm sure I've talked to you about this before on the air, if not in private, but at what point did your life pivot? Even as an academic scholar, even as something who, unlike so many people, had so much to lose.

[00:16:47] But you, in the pursuit of truth and your dedication to the truth, decided to risk it all and have suffered as a result of it. What was the pivot point in your life from that, you know, nascent upbringing in the 1960s through your scholarly journey to where you just weren't going to deny what you found as a result of the facts? Yeah, right. I was radical, as I say, in the 60s.

[00:17:16] But, you know, it really wasn't me. And when we got to the 70s, I was, you know, getting more conservative. I voted for Gerald Ford and voted Republican after that. I figured that when Ronald Reagan got in, you know, now all the problems are going to be solved. And that's ridiculous. But... Oh, yeah, you were called a Nazi all along, man. Gerald Ford. Well, that's what they say, including Nathan Kovnas.

[00:17:46] He says, well, he's been a white racist all the time. Anyway, anyway, don't get me started on him. But anyway, you know, then I got... It was a purely theoretical thing about groups, because in evolutionary psychology, the idea was that groups were not important for evolution, only individuals. And I said, no, that's not true. I mean, think of a military battalion.

[00:18:14] You got a sergeant or a lieutenant or somebody, and he has life and death over the people he commands. And so it's a group phenomenon, and people have to tone the line. And so I did some of that kind of analysis on the Spartans, ancient Greece, because, you know, they were a classic group. You know, they took the kids away from their parents, and they socialized all the voices as to be soldiers. There were no arts or anything else. It was all military.

[00:18:43] They were very successful for a long time. But anyway, then I decided after that, I said, what else could I do? Well, Jews, you know, because they've been around so long. They write so much. So much is written about them. They've been so controversial and everything. So I went into it, you know. And, you know, I always had this feeling, what you're saying before, about the academic world.

[00:19:07] They have this idea that they are all for free speech and free thought and all that, and it's entirely in their own self-conception because they're not like that at all. They're intolerant as hell, and they will punish people that are not on board with them ideologically. And, of course, now the whole academic world is controlled by the left, and they are merciless, and they will, you know, they can police recruiting. Anybody who gets a job has got to profess his leftist credentials.

[00:19:36] I mean, it actually said in our hiring policy that people had to not only say nice things about diversity, they had to have a record of being an activist on behalf of diversity. And that's how far it's going. And if you don't, they want to cast you into the outer darkness. Absolutely. So, you know, I started reading about Jews. I didn't know much about them. Started with Paul Johnson's History of the Jews and just read it.

[00:20:06] And I said, hey, there's something here. And so I started reading and reading. I wrote a book in 1994, People of Shrubbed All Alone, Judaism and Evolutionary Strategy. And then I submitted this manuscript. It was a combination of cultural critique and separation of discontents. And there's one chapter that was cultural critique kind of stuff.

[00:20:34] You should have written a book about the Irish travelers instead, right? Yeah, right. Exactly. So it took four years for them to approve this. But by then, my manuscript had expanded. And I got into cultural critique and reading about all this stuff. I was not like I am now by any means. And reading about what the Jewish activism on behalf of immigration, that's what really did it for me.

[00:21:02] Because something like psychoanalysis, you know, that comes and goes. And, you know, at this point, you know, psychoanalysis is really at its last legs. It has no influence, even though it was influential at one time. You know, political Marxist radicals, well, they're still going, I guess. But anyway, immigration puts facts on the ground that are hard to change. And here we are now after the passage of the 1965 law.

[00:21:32] There's like 60 million and 100 million people come into this country and their children. And they changed the demographics radically. And it's just a good example of Jewish activism where they think big and they pursue these big, long-term projects. I mean, they lost in 1924. Like Emanuel Seller, you know, who basically got into Congress right before the Johnson Anti-Immigration Act of 1924

[00:21:59] and spent his entire career repealing it by, you know, the 1965 Act. And I think by 1970 he was out of Congress. But that was his pet project in life. Well, here's what's astonishing, Kevin, is that we had originally scheduled just a quick cameo appearance with you about Heidi Byrick. And we missed that. It's live radio. Things happen.

[00:22:28] And we've now had you for twice the amount of time we originally scheduled you for and two hours later. And we're now down to the last minute of our time. And it's gone by far too fast. TheOccidentalObserver.net. A minute left. Last word is all yours, my friend. Yeah, I really appreciate being on here. It's always a pleasure. Well, thank you. Good to talk to you guys again. Because, you know, we're on page. And, you know, it's still hard. It's getting less hard.

[00:22:55] I'm very encouraged by some of the developments that we see. You know, there's an anti-Israel sentiment is really growing now. Especially on the left. But even the Republican Party. And among young people. The younger generation generally is getting G-wise. Even evangelicals. But yes, Kevin, final word to you. Yeah, that's exactly it. Young people are getting it. And I don't think there's any going back after what happened in Gaza.

[00:23:22] When we see that, it's just up front that Israel brought us into this catastrophic Iran war. And, you know, you can just see the answer. Well, they've got it all figured out. What they've done is they give millions of dollars in bribes through AIPAC. And they get billions of dollars in foreign aid in return. And trillion-dollar wars fought on their behalf. Well, Matt Gaetz is even. Like Iran. Matt Gaetz is even.

[00:23:46] Former Representative Gaetz has even got it down to where they would have these barcodes on their lapels. And the Jews could just come up and scan their barcode and donate to them, you know, at these cattle calls, you know, for the representatives. I mean, he talked about it. He's talked about that openly. You can read more about it all at theoccidentalobserver.net. There has not been one person alive today that has done more to shed light on this dark corner than Kevin McDonald.

[00:24:15] And he's risked it all. And he's suffered as a result of it. But he never backed down. Kevin, 30 seconds left. By getting to know you guys and people like that. Well, listen, I think you've done more for us than we've done for you. But I will tell you this, though. No less certain is the fact that over the course of my adult life, I'm 46 years old. I got started in this when I was 19. The fact that I can call you a friend and a comrade and a colleague is a high honor.

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[00:29:38] What a great show tonight. We have been chucking and jiving, weaving in and out of, well, last week at the Southern Cultural Center, and then, of course, correlating that with what's happening there in Montgomery, Alabama, with the Southern Poverty Law Center and Heidi Byrick's arrest. You've heard from Glenn Allen tonight.

[00:30:02] Also Kevin McDonald, who've been victimized by the SPLC, as we all have, but they in different ways. At least you didn't have to bed down with Heidi like the president of the National Alliance. Well, we don't know who that was, but whoever that was, we didn't have to do that, allegedly. But also in the second hour, Pat Godwin from Selma, Alabama, a longtime friend, ran into her again last week, had to have her on. What a great testimony. Kevin McDonald enjoyed that.

[00:30:32] I enjoyed it, too. I hope you did as well. But now joining us is Jack Ryan from the Upper Midwest, and Jack likes beautiful women. He likes to highlight injustice, and boy, don't we have a story for him tonight. Show-tuned vibe alcohol. Well, I don't know anything about that, but we, from time to time, do like to enjoy a good, stiff shot of whiskey.

[00:31:01] Jack is with us tonight, and Jack, the focus of our attention tonight is on the WNBA. This has been something that we have been looking on now for at least a couple of months, going back to the Sophie Cunningham pointing incident in that particular ball game. There may be some of our listeners who don't even know that there is such a thing as the Women's National Basketball Association, but sure there is. And it's a point of interest to our program. How are you doing tonight, Jack?

[00:31:35] Just fine. All right. Well, so what can you tell us about the controversy involving Sophie Cunningham and Caitlin Clark, who are both very attractive, heterosexual, white women of the WNBA, and their situation involving some of the other people that they're fellow competitors? Apparently the majority in the WNBA.

[00:32:05] Take it away, Jack. No, they are. Now, I agree that both of Caitlin Clark and Sophia Cunningham are very good-looking, and they're also very talented, good basketball players. So I confess, I'm as sexist as the most American guy, probably more so. But I will support women athletes of our race, others, if there's two things they have to. One is they have to be better than I am at my age, whether it's tennis and basketball.

[00:32:33] And they have to be better-looking than I am if I put on a wig or something like that. That's a low bar indeed. No, no, no. But I'm dragged. So, no, Sophia Cunningham and Caitlin Clark are both very good-looking, and they're good players. Caitlin Clark is – she's a great basketball player. She's incredible. She can fill it up. She can put it out. You know, I was – basketball got me a few wives on the south side of Chicago. Should I do it? But I have to tip my after.

[00:33:01] She's very, very good. But – and this is a big but – both of these young women are unmarried. They don't have any children. I think one is, like, 25 and one is 30. So we've got to work on that. You know, if they can't get a husband and get some children – Let me tell you that. Yeah. Caitlin seems to be the big star on the court. But on the other hand, Sophie is a riding point on this particular thing more so than Caitlin. So Keith's on to something here, Jack, and that is, yes, I mean, in terms of talent.

[00:33:29] I mean, everybody who watched Caitlin Clark at the University of Iowa, she nearly won the national championship in the – And she's a phenom. She's like the female – She can fill it up, but she can also take it to the hoop. She's got a good ball handler, and she can get inside. And I've got to tip my hat to her. Great with the sis, great with passing? No, really good. I mean, the Islamic countries don't let their women play sports. They just don't.

[00:33:57] So I will let our women play sports, but they better get married and have some children, you know, before we, like, give up on both of these girls. But my view on this is, okay, it's a lot of it. It's racial. But a lot of it is just sexual. That these other women – they're mostly lesbians in the WNBA. But they're just jealous of another attention.

[00:34:20] Someone instead of, like, okay, when the NBA was getting very black and stuff, but Larry Bird came in, but he brought a lot of attention to the NBA. And the other players said, well, that was good for the sport. So why don't the other WNBA players say, oh, that's good for the sport, to get some attention? But no, these women, they're selfish. It's everything and they're jealous of it. Well, part of it is this, Jack.

[00:34:43] She is – what she is, what the WNBA is, they've been so used to being subsidized and being protected from pesky ideas like profitability and, you know, productivity. In other words, drawing people into the stands that they seem to be immune to those type of considerations. They just – it's basically a club for lesbians now. What do you say to that? It's club for lesbians.

[00:35:13] But also, I mean, I want to be supportive of American women and just women in general are very selfish. They don't want to – they're not team players. So you don't ever see in Hollywood that there's two beautiful actresses in the movies. Maybe, what, there was one gentleman, how to marry a millionaire, Marilyn Monroe, and one other – one. But women like to be the center of attention. They want to be, like, one person. And you'll see this in politics and the like. And they don't like other women.

[00:35:44] They don't – they just don't like other women. And they've gotten very jealous. But these two women are – No, they are. They have to be the bellow of the ball so that they have it. But any event, basketball – I don't know. Women's – I just don't think team sports. Look at women's soccer. Look at the horrible blue-haired lesbians representing our country in women's soccer. That's a crap-a-no. That's not – That's – yeah, no, that's not good.

[00:36:11] So I think the better sports are solo sports, women's tennis, women's gymnastics. I think track and field. No, no. Golf is a men's sport. No way. We won't want them on our golf course. No way. Femke Bo. I just saw the relay team, the Dutch player, Femke Bo is a very good runner. So the Dutch are doing very good. No, absolutely not. No, we would not want women on our golf courses. No, that's ridiculous. No.

[00:36:41] You should be – you have to do push-ups there. You have to do some push-ups even to suggest that. Letting them vote, you know, playing golf or letting them vote. That's where Tiger Woods destroyed our last remaining citadelers on the golf course. So – No, that's the women's suffrage. You are – we forgot. Haven't we all suffered enough women's suffrage? I mean, I appreciate it. It's appropriately named, isn't it? All right, all right. So anyway, but the bottom line is this.

[00:37:08] So we had on a couple of months ago when the Sophie Cunningham pointing incident happened. And what happened was that was the time in the game where the resident black lesbian opponent on the opposing team tried to – The hatchet man. – take out Caitlin. And – well, they're doing it to Sophie now as well. Whether they're trying to kill them or just maim them, nevertheless, it was a hard foul, a brutal foul.

[00:37:38] In the street, if any of these things had happened in real life, it would be called a song. In Chicago, you grew up in playing basketball. What would happen if somebody clotheslined – Even in Chicago, on the street, whether it be in a basketball game or not, this would be called assault. And so Sophie Cunningham began pointing at this opponent who had maligned Caitlin, her teammate, for the Indiana – Fever? Fever.

[00:38:07] And the black opponent began just like, as they say, chimping out. And she was jumping up and down and she was losing control just because she was being pointed at, but this very attractive blonde heterosexual white woman, which is very much a minority in that league. And then it's led to all of this discussion over the entirety of the summer, which is the WNBA season. And Sophie Cunningham has begun, certainly much more than Caitlin, who is the phenom, who is

[00:38:34] the star, who has been the one – she's the Michael Jordan of this league. She is the one who has raised the base salary for everyone in the league, black, white, lesbian, straight, whatever. She's done it, but they're still trying to kill her. And Sophie Cunningham has begun talking out, quite frankly, about anti-white racism in the WNBA. It's just become a huge story. So we've talked about it with Don Wassel. Don Wassel of Cass Football was on the show a couple of months ago to talk about it.

[00:39:03] We have a forthcoming feature in American Free Press about it. It doesn't seem to die. It's the – like Tombstone, the town too tough to die. This is the story too tough to die because the lesbian blacks just won't give it a rest. Well, just in the last couple of days, Jack, they closed-lined Sophie again. I mean, this looks so brutal and so violent. It's like the WWF or the WWE, except it's real. And it looks so brutal. Like, I'm surprised that they didn't break her neck. I don't know if you saw this particular foul in a recent game.

[00:39:33] I did see the foul. It was pretty bad. But my view is – okay, I've been on this planet for a few years and something. But this idea that they say, oh, it's the fairer sex, I don't think that that's true. I don't think that women, females are the fairer sex. If you see mosquitoes, the mosquitoes that bite you, they're female. They don't – that's only the females that bite you. That's true. He's right. No, it is. So what do the male mosquitoes do?

[00:40:01] Just hang out, smoke pot, and watch daytime TV? They're not really doing anything. It's the females that are – There's some type of analogy you're drawing here. All right, go on, Jack. Keep going. Yeah. No, so I think that they – there are certain sports. I just feel that our women, we want to encourage them to be healthy and participate in sports more than the Islamic world. Saudi Arabia doesn't even send women to the Olympics or something like that.

[00:40:29] But we just have to understand the fact that I just don't think American women or just women are team players. And I think that they're going to be mean and vicious and play foul. So we want to get these girls, Caitlin Clark and Sophia Cunningham, we want to get them married. We want to get them – become moms, make them – All right, hold on. We're going to come back with that. That's a good point. It's actually – he's on to something big here. It's very important. Jack Ryan, our longtime contributor here to TPC.

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[00:43:25] All right, Jack, I've got to ask you. Jack Ryan, long-time contributor to this program, long-time friend of this program. We've known Jack for so many years, as we can say about so many people. But Jack, great friend, great talent. And Justin is listening in downtown Memphis tonight. And Justin says he's a big fan of the show, big fan of Jack. Justin, so great to have you listening tonight.

[00:43:51] And Jack, I would ask you, who are we dedicating that song from Andy Kim to? Is it Caitlin or is it Sophie? And in this summer of discontent in the WNBA, who's your favorite among the two? They've both been making headlines for different reasons. I would dedicate it to both of these beautiful young ladies and to all of our young ladies that are not yet married and don't have children. And so I think that if you've got these talents,

[00:44:19] the best thing for our women is to get married and have children and then spread their talent to their children. So you see whether it's Caitlin Clark or who is the actress? Or Sweeney, who's the blue bean one. No kids among all the whole lot. Yeah, they're not. They don't have children. Yeah, they need to get – if they have little children, that's the best thing. And that's what's going to make our women happy is when they have their own children

[00:44:47] so they can boss around their little boys instead of me, instead of adults. Well, that's going to be – this is Keith. Let me just say this. That's going to be a hard sell in professional women's sports because really, I think Title IX, what Title IX has done is turn women's sports into a grooming parlor for lesbians. I have friends who have granddaughters that play like softball at junior college and colleges.

[00:45:16] They tell me that they're hit on – their heterosexual daughters are hit on on a regular basis by the majority homosexual women that are on the team. And even the coaches, the female coaches tend to be – Coaches. Yeah, the coaches really just tend to be more of a buzzer. And see, all this is being unmasked for the public. You know, this is a reality that, quite frankly, we all wish wasn't there and we didn't have to look at it. But now it's front and center.

[00:45:46] Well, you know, it's interesting about the coaches. I mean, that was the whole laugh about the sitcom Glee was that the track coach was a lesbian and demonstrably so. But even the coach of the Indiana Fever, whose two-star players are named Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cunningham, Caitlin Clark is the star of the entire league.

[00:46:09] She has risen the entire WNBA into levels never before enjoyed by such a ridiculous premise. But she is great and I do love her and she is a compelling figure. And, you know, her college career in Iowa, really wish she had defeated in the national championship game the superior Angela Reese who is, you know, her – Angel Reese. Angel Reese or whatever her name is. You know, she is her adversary or nemesis in the WNBA now.

[00:46:39] But, no. I mean, this is – you've got these two beautiful white heterosexual females who are taking the brunt in the media. Even their own coaches, even her own coach will not stand up for them. Because she's a lesbian too. Well, who knows, Keith, actually. Well, the thing is, this is all coming out. But, nevertheless, whether she is that or cowed by the media, I mean, the fact is that she is not doing it. And they're sort of standing up for each other.

[00:47:05] Jack, it goes so far as to the point that Sophie Cunningham has actually begun to talk in the media, in the mainstream international news media, about anti-white racism in the WNBA. They're talking about this now. This has all come out this year. It's a very big thing, actually. Yeah, they keep pouring coal oil on the fire. Take it away, Jack.

[00:47:32] Well, I would say that these problems are real, but they're really nothing new. I mean, so this lesbian, homosexual, anti-white stuff, it's been around for a long time. So I just think that you've got to address it. But if you have a daughter, you have to protect your daughter. I mean, usually back in the day, you had to protect your daughter from men who were just out to get them. Now you've got to protect your daughter, you know, predators and something like that.

[00:47:59] So I would just say be strong, but yeah, be ready to use force. I mean, these wars, we've talked a lot about these neoconservative science wars where we're lobbing missiles into Iran and Syria or the war against Russia. Russia threw off communism, so why do we have to go kill Russians in my grandfather's town of St. Petersburg? So the other one is you have to use force to protect your daughters from the corruptions of the day.

[00:48:29] And so, you know, was it missiles? Is it AR-15s? Is it shotguns? But we just have to protect our daughters. Well, you know, Jack, that's good. Yeah, yeah. I was going to say that basically when you let your daughter play these sports, particularly at a high level, are you introducing them into a grooming parlor for lesbians? And who would want to do this? No, but it's fair.

[00:48:58] But we give our women more freedom than other societies. So we just do. That's just given. We did give women the right to vote. I think it was a mistake. I thought it was a mistake. Women's suffrage. But we've got to get it. You've been suffering from women's suffrage. Average women. I've suffered enough. But we have it. But you just have to work. So I think other traditions, like Orthodox. I have an Orthodox Jewish friend from Brooklyn.

[00:49:24] And they have standards for dating and marriage. They don't just let their women date whoever they want to. They have semi-arranged marriages. And I think that we need to get back there. We need to get our women. We have to get our women married at a younger age. 16, 17, 18. Because then our women right now, they're going to college. They're not trying to start a family until they're 37. Okay. So that's... I mean, it's hard for a woman to have children. James is listening to all this from bated breasts.

[00:49:54] You've got beautiful daughters. But you've got to find ways to get them married. Yeah. You've got to work to get them married. Let's get real. Let's get real. I first met my wife when she was 16. My daughter, my oldest daughter is 16. I have a five-year-old daughter as well. But I prosecute them for that today. For meeting somebody when they're 16. But in any event, the...

[00:50:17] No, it is important that you steer them away from these gauntlets and pitfalls. Bad potential. Corruption. And then going into college... Marvel comics. Just going into college to get depro... If you come from a conservative home or a Christian home or whatever, to go into college and get deprogrammed and just turn into promiscuous

[00:50:43] and to saddle yourself with debt and all that stuff... It's just... Why do they have to send an American woman to law school to teach them how to argue? Most American women can argue just fine, just on their own. And they should send them to school to not argue. They don't need any more help. Well, let me ask you a... Yeah, of course. It's like sending some Middle Eastern Muslim guy to a terrorist school. No, we want to send our women to some school to help them get a husband. And there are just some basic math.

[00:51:11] Again, we're going to allow more freedom than the Taliban. We are. We are going to give our women more... Let me ask you this. You talked about law school. That's a good idea. What man would want to marry a woman lawyer? Well, all right. I got a real question. Hillary Clinton. You think Bill Clinton's a happily married man? I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I'm not going to put you on the spot, Jack. But I'm going to ask you this. If you had a 30-year-old son, who would you want him to invite to meet you for dinner? Sophie Cunningham or Caitlin Clark?

[00:51:44] You can't go wrong. I think they're both a little too old. I'd rather have some 16-year-old from Chile. There's nothing chilly about the women from Chile. You like the old joke. Back in the day, Jack, they used to say, what do they call a 16-year-old girl in Arkansas? Middle-aged. Well, let's get real about that, too. I mean, people fool themselves. Women mature faster than men. They just do. Anybody who's ever met one knows that.

[00:52:14] But, I mean, the thing is, people fool themselves with all this arbitrary, you know, 18, 16 is legal in half the states. 18 is legal in the other half. And then there's like another third that's even in addition. We're going over 100% now. But there's 17. Okay, so that's dating. I think it's wrong to date, have affairs with 16-year-olds if you're older. But getting a young, healthy woman married at a young age is good. It's a very good thing to do. And that's what we should encourage.

[00:52:44] It's optimal for their fertility. That they have children basically before they're 30, for sure. My wife was 20 on our wedding day. Well, there you go. Well, that's pretty good. That's better than 37. Yeah, it is. That's why you have so much in vitro fertilization nowadays. These 37-year-olds need to get pregnant. Well, but both Caitlin and Sophie are 30 and 28, respectively, I think.

[00:53:12] But Sophie is the 30-year-old enforcer. I mean, when they go out and these black lesbians try to kill Caitlin, she goes in and starts mixing it up. But they're trying to kill her. Oh, yeah. We've got to get them knocked up. You know, here's another woman that needs to be knocked up. It's Greta Thunberg. Remember that Swedish political actor? Wait a minute. Oh, my gosh. How did we get her in this conversation? Well, Keith Singleton has moved on to him for that. If some Swedish biker knocks her up, he's going to do the world a favor and just take her out of the equation.

[00:53:42] We want to do that. Well, Keith Singleton. Why are you so milquetoast, Jack? We always want to know why you talk out of both sides of your mouth. Well, Keith, you can be like the next Peter Brimolo. You're in your 70s and ready to start your second family. So, is that Greta Singleton? I tell you what, I've been through it once. I'm ready. I'm available. I got the T-shirt. I'm available. Let's go. Let's put an advertisement. I'm available. I'm available.

[00:54:12] And I can cook. I can do housekeeping. I can do a lot of these things. He's wealthy. He's got finances. I mean, listen, actually, I've got to tell you, folks. I will put this ad out there. Jack's a catch. Good partner dancer. I was at Brad Griffith's wedding. I was the best dancer. Do the rumble. Get your financial statement in order and we'll send it out. He knows. No, no. It's already in order. I know.

[00:54:42] We're out of time, though. I've been. I'm sorry. Thank you, everybody. It's what you did for me. Good night.