Radio Show Hour 3 – 2026/06/27

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[00:00:28] All right, and we are back, and we are working to get our third hour guests on. We have a couple of things in store for you. One being the opening of the Obama Presidential Library in Chicago, Illinois.

[00:00:53] And the second being the Sophie Cunningham phenomenon. Now, you have to be tuned into the memes, and you have to be tuned into social media to know what we're talking about. But Sophie Cunningham looks like a Greek goddess. I never had heard her name until 24 hours ago because I don't follow women's professional basketball, the WNBA.

[00:01:19] But she is one of two heterosexual players in that league, and she's white. The other one being Caitlin Clark, who is her teammate. I don't even know how the Indianapolis franchise there got two beautiful white heterosexual women to be on the same team. But there's a lot going on there, and we're going to unpack that later this hour.

[00:01:42] But first, we go back to our longtime friend and correspondent, Jack Ryan, from the greater Chicagoland area. Jack, it has been entirely too long since we talked to you. Yeah, it's been entirely too long, but I'm very honored to be back. I'm still alive. As they say, there's two people. People are getting older, and people are not getting older. People are not getting older are dead, so I'm happy I got a little bit. Yeah.

[00:02:13] Well, I am looking now. Let's see here. We had to talk to somebody about this, and you were the number one guy at the top of the list for the opening of the Obama Presidential Library. Now, there has been a lot going on there, a lot of controversy surrounding this.

[00:02:35] Why don't you start, because you are there, and I'll tell you what I have been able to glean from it all, and we'll take it in stride. So the Obama Presidential Library opened on Juneteenth, no less, so just a few days ago, if you follow fake holidays. Tell us about it, Jack. You were within a stone's throw from it, from your perch. Absolutely.

[00:03:01] First, it's not any kind of library. No one's pretending that it is a library. It's a 23-story high-rise temple, personality cult, temple. And yes, it is open on the new anti-American racial separatist holiday of Juneteenth.

[00:03:23] The various powers that be have started rival holidays, Martin Luther King Day, Black History Month, Juneteenth, Kwanzaa, which I do, just to separate black Americans in an anti-American racist way. Anyway, this is in, unfortunately, I live out of the city, but this is the neighborhood where I grew up in, and I spent two-thirds of my life here. This is where my father grew up in.

[00:03:50] The actual Obama Presidential Center is across the street from where my relative and grandfather and my grandmother lived the best years of their life. So I've watched it very closely, and I'm seeing what it represents. So yes, anything you want to know about this Obama Presidential Center, I'm the guy to ask. Well, number one, I would say, is the cost of this was approaching a billion dollars.

[00:04:17] Now, the official number on the cost of the Obama Presidential Library, and I was talking about this with, I believe it was either Jared or Ron, Ron Unz, the two guests tonight. I believe it was Jared, though. This is a piece of brutalist architecture. I mean, it looks like a Death Star. I mean, it looks like something you'd find, and ideologically, this adds up, something you would have found in Stalin's Russia. It's just a concrete block. But that doesn't mean it was cheap.

[00:04:46] It cost $850 million. Now, that's the official price tag. Now, this was supposedly privately funded, but at least a third of that, or a little bit more than that, $350 million, was subsidized by taxpayer funds. Well, it not only was the expense very expensive, but they were given prime lakefront parkland in my former backyard, Jackson Park.

[00:05:14] It's Andrew Jackson, not Jesse Jackson. And this violated the terms of the Daniel Burnham plan for the Chicago lakefront, that the lakefront will be free and open as public green space forever. And it's been – that has gone down as a big issue. And Park Puris, myself included, to their credit, did fight this very, very hard.

[00:05:38] They wanted a real library, not this personality cult Black Lives Matter temple. They wanted to put it in a neighborhood west of Hyde Park. But the Obama clique, particularly Michelle Obama and Valerie Jarrett, they wanted – it was on the lakefront of the downtown. And so this priceless lakefront property was duking away for free to the Obama foundation.

[00:06:05] And, yes, I don't know, the finished thing doesn't look as bad as – when it was being built, it looked like something in Star Wars Empire. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, it did look like that. I think it looked a little bit better, but it's really what it represents. And our neighborhood, my former neighborhood, Hyde Park University of Chicago, already had a Black American History Museum. That's a modest size, which is a probable museum of history. So we didn't need another one.

[00:06:31] But, yes, it is something that Joseph Stalin or Nikolai Ceausescu or the supporters of a bad Roman emperor, Nero or Caligula, would be built. And it's a personality cult temple. It's anti-American, and it's Black racist, Black separatist. And this neighborhood that made me is the center of that power, along with the gay supremacy. And the two are working very closely together.

[00:06:59] So I've monitored – I know what it was, and we saw it coming. You know, so, again, if you look at it, if you haven't seen it, folks, Google it. Google the Obama Presidential Library. It opened just last week on our holiest of holidays, Juneteenth. And, again, it looks like the SPLC headquarters. It looks like Moscow under Stalin. It looks like hell.

[00:07:27] It looks – it's entirely repulsive. And, as Jack said, it looks better than he thought he would. But that's not necessarily saying much. And the skyrocketing cost. So it was originally projected to be a $300 million eyesore. It skyrocketed up to nearly a billion dollars. And we talked about the fact that a lot of this was public subsidies.

[00:07:52] Jack giving us the inside scoop on how this is prime lakefront real estate, too, by the way. And it's not really a library. Now, the thing about this is, unlike every other modern presidential library which houses official records under the National Archives, this one contains no presidential papers. They're digitally stored elsewhere for Obama. So it's essentially a private museum. A foundation headquarters is what it really is.

[00:08:17] And it's a branch of the Chicago Public Library and a community center with a basketball court. Now, I actually saw a bunch of NBA players showed up for the opening of this thing and were shooting hoops with Barack. So at least there's that. But anyway – Bruce Springsteen also played in the opening ceremony. So it's a – Oh, and there was actually – of the people – it was actually star-studded as far as that goes. So you're on to something here.

[00:08:46] This grand opening on Juneteenth. It had a lot of A-list actors and singers. Bruce Springsteen was there. Stevie Wonder. Christina Aguilera. John Legend. Bono. Eddie Vedder. Oprah Winfrey. Tom Hanks. Steven Spielberg was there. Dwayne Wade, an NBA player. Billie Jean King. So it was a big Hollywood spectacle. Full on with performances from these A-list guests. But you're there in Chicago.

[00:09:16] You are a pro-white guy. You're a TPC guy. Grace Realist. An OD guy. You're near Chicago. So what are you thinking when you see this and, you know, just taking it all in for us? I mean, you're a man on the ground there. It's definitely not a library, we call it. I actually coined the term the abomination, is what we call it. Kind of like that. I'm pretty proud of that.

[00:09:42] Yeah, it's like a Chris Rock joke in that great comedy sketch you did. The difference between black people and these other people that are very negative. The N-word that these other black people don't read books. That books for these other people. The N. It's like kryptonite for Superman. So they don't. They don't. So we notice that there's not any kind of library. And we just know that it is what it is.

[00:10:09] And again, it's a temple, an anti-American temple for the latest anti-American racial separatist holiday of the 15th. That's what it is. And you should just stand and act accordingly. Have you been there yet, my friend? I've walked by it. I keep close ties. You're close enough to where you can actually. You're close enough to where you can actually. Yeah, my old backyard. And then, okay.

[00:10:36] And not only is this at the same time that they opened this, but at the Museum of Science and Industry, beautiful. Again, this is five minutes from my old residence. They have a propaganda tour. The Anne Frank. Oh, okay. All right, all right, all right. So, I mean, you can go to Chicago and see Anne Frank and Barack Obama. Hold on. We've got to take a quick break. We'll be right back with Jack Ryan. Hey, folks. It's your friend Harry Cooper here.

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[00:13:08] All right. So we're back with Jack Ryan in the greater Chicagoland area, close enough to where he could walk by the Obama Presidential Library. Now, yes, I know. We've been getting emails. Jack is a little muffled tonight. He's on a cell phone. We're going to get that fixed before he's back on with us. Jack, longtime contributor to TPC.

[00:13:30] And as I was telling Jack during the break, I love what we were doing a couple of years ago when we'd have serious shows like this with Ron Unz and Jared Taylor, for instance, like we have tonight. And then we ended on a little bit of the levity. We covered the heart issues, and then we have a few laughs with Jack. We talk about things in the news, things like this. A little more lighthearted. Send you to bed with a smile. That's what the light night comedy shows used to do before they just became left-wing partisan hacks and completely unfunny.

[00:13:56] But with us, you know, you could have a little fun in the third hour. Third hour should be a lighter hour. I want to work you on more, Jack. I have missed you. But we'll keep you on for one more segment tonight. We'll try to get this phone situation arrested. Coming up later, we'll call Don Wassel. We've got a deep bench here at TPC.

[00:14:18] And we'll call Don Wassel in to handle the Caitlin Clark WNBA brouhaha that is in the press this week talking a little bit about sports. Now, Jack likes good-looking women athletes, but that's a whole other story. We'll get to that. But going back to this, so the Obama Presidential Library up and open. You've walked around, and it's in your old neighborhood. And Stevie Wonder was there. I just got to say, you know, he is actually of all the people that—

[00:14:47] I didn't know Stevie Wonder was still alive. I didn't know he was still alive. Apparently he is because he was there at the opening on Juneteenth. Yes, he's still alive. I just got to say, of all the celebrities mentioned there, I mean, they're all repulsive because of their ideology. But we got to be real. I mean, Tom Hanks has made good movies. I don't agree with anything he says or does, but he's made good movies. Glory Days, Bruce Springsteen. I mean, he is an obnoxious cuck. But what man can't relate to the song Glory Days? He's the silver.

[00:15:16] Yeah, I mean, I watched him back in the day. I camped out for overnight in Nashville, Tennessee. I saw him at the Grand Ole Opry house. The music I thought was good. It wasn't very political. He made a short political speech when I was there, and the local penitentiants were heckling him. But it's just if you want to stay in the top of the medium, it's being in Stalin's time. You have to do this. That's what they do.

[00:15:42] And so unless you retire, you have to go with this woke. It's a religious cult, and that's what it is. And Bruce Springsteen and those people have done it. And otherwise, if you don't do it, you've got to scramble like we do. He's a billionaire. He lives on a $47 million equestrian horse farm in Colts Neck, New Jersey.

[00:16:06] So this bad leftist, anti-American, woke politics has been very good for him. And that's why you do it. They do it for money. Take the 30 minutes over. Well, and then, you know, people like that maybe. And then you have true believers, you know, like Stevie Wonder. And I've got to say, I was talking to a great TPC donor in East Tennessee five minutes before we went on the air tonight. Carol, if you're listening tonight, if you're still tuned in tonight, I know it's getting a little late on the East Coast,

[00:16:35] but if you're still tuned in, we love you, and we thank you, and we thank everyone who's given this quarter and all the people who give every quarter like you. But she was saying, you know, that she had been listening to the Platters this week. And they had some great songs. But, you know, all these – and I love Motown. Jack, I know you do too. I love Motown. And, you know, these people were definitely on the other side of the ideological divide. They were certainly on the other side of the so-called civil rights movement. But we've got to be real. I mean, we can be honest, right?

[00:17:04] I mean, Smokey Robinson had some great songs. Stevie Wonder had some great songs. He's fantastic. I hate to write the art from the artist. You got to. And they have to do this to go along to get in there. So I look at other artists like the director, Roman Polanski, who was just a terrible repulsor. He raped at least one 12-, 13-year-old white Gentile girl. But some of his movies are just fantastic.

[00:17:34] His version of Macbeth is the greatest Shakespeare movie I've ever run. Chinatown, quite good. But, you know, that's – we live in an occupied country. And if you want to make it in the media, you've got to really go along with it. So we have to look – again, I separate the art from the artist. The great artist, Steve Earle, who became a heroin addict and bad leftist. So, you know, it's a fallen world, and you've got to make the best of it.

[00:18:03] But you can't really look for heroes in the mainstream media and the arts. They're going to be very few and far on our side. No, you're into something important here. For everyone listening, I'm not saying you have to be so hardcore that you cannot allow even a sliver of your pie to be dedicated to entertainment.

[00:18:32] Now, the problem with so many Americans is entertainment eats up all of their pie except for what little bit of work they do to survive. They love – Americans love to be entertained. It's okay to watch a sporting event. It's okay to listen to music, even if that particular artist doesn't agree with us on issues. You can still listen to Tears of a Clown by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles and say, that is a great song, one of the greatest of all time.

[00:19:00] But Stevie Wonder was there at the Obama headquarters. No, listen, to hell with their ideology. I mean, to hell they're wrong. I mean, they're on the other side. But can I listen to his greatest hits and sing along? You bet I can. You got a favorite Stevie Wonder song, Jack? Let's see. I'll put you on the spot there. The Key of Life is just – that whole one is very, very good. Boy, you hit me right off the bat.

[00:19:27] I'll give you – because, you know, I've been thinking about it before I asked. If you'd asked me on the spot, I had to think for a second. But, you know, I always like, of course, the early and mid-60s stuff by any artist. Isn't she beautiful? What was that, that song? Yeah, that's it. I mean, you got – but I'm thinking Sign Silled, Sign Silled, Delivered, I Was Made to Lover. Yeah, these are great songs. But – so they're all there. Sir Duke, they're all there. Tom Hanks is there. He's made great movies. But he's a, you know, pathetic white cuck.

[00:19:56] I mean, you know, I don't have to like the man to say, you know, when I watch him in a movie, in a performance, you know, I can enjoy that. But anyway, we're getting off topic, I guess. But the Obama Presidential Library. Jack, we got five minutes left with you. And we're going to get this phone thing. And we're going to start having you back on much more often. Because I have missed – I have missed the levity. I've missed having a laugh to end the show after we talk about all the serious topics that are going on that need to be talked about. But we need to – we need to have balance. And you provide that.

[00:20:24] And you always have, going back many, many years as a contributor to this program. What else do you want to talk about tonight? Well, do I have five minutes or do I have the next half hour? Well, we'll do five minutes because we've got to get your phone situation correct. Because it's a little bit muffled. Well, if they want to talk about – I've lived all over the country, two-thirds of it in this interesting area in Chicago. But I went to Tennessee for college at Vanderbilt Nashville. But I also lived in New York City for five years. Incredible. I think my 20.

[00:20:54] So all the horrible things that are happening in New York City right now, I predicted them right when I left after I got this worthless MBA degree. I predicted the Islamic terrorist attack and the Islamic merging with the hardcore left that has now happened with this terrible mayor in Montgomery. So I've seen it. I've predicted it. So all this bad stuff, it's bad. I'm not going to sugarcoat it. But it's nothing surprised. It's not a surprise for those of us in the know.

[00:21:24] And I'm one of the people that's in the know. Anybody wants to write me and ask me about what's going on in Chicago or New York or these neoconservative Zionist wars, it's based in New York and Chicago. And those are the places I've been. So I've seen it. I know it. And it's bad, but it's not a surprise. And I've dealt with it. So not all things are bad. So that's what I want to spread to our listeners is that it's not all gloom and doom.

[00:21:53] There's good things happening. But, yeah, we are losing a lot of our cities. Minneapolis, St. Paul, Portland, large parts of Chicago and New York City. These things are happening. But it's not a surprise and new talk coming. Well, Jack, I'll make you climb out on a limb here because anytime you ask someone to make a prediction, you set them up to fail.

[00:22:19] But how long would you reason that it'll take before we have the first murder at the grounds of the Obama Presidential Library? Or do you think they'll keep it cleaned up around that particular square block? Well, there have been murders within two blocks of the Obama Presidential Center. It's already happened. And then, okay, you just think it's murder. There's other bad things that are going on. And I think that disease is now a huge one.

[00:22:48] More people are going to die from third world and sexually transmitted diseases in our city than in murders. And also, we don't have anarchy on driving. They don't enforce any of the laws about these events. They have all these motor vehicles, electric scooters, ATVs, e-bikes, and they're just going around with unlicensed and people are having accidents and deaths like that.

[00:23:17] So, well, there's murder and mayhem all around. Again, this is my old neighborhood. Unfortunately, it's safer outside of it. But if you live in New York City in the late 80s like I did or Southside Chicago, Hyde Park, you've got to be prepared. There's murdering man a few blocks away always. And you have to. You've just got to be prepared. And I got Spider-Man senses. So other people are going to get murdered hopefully before I do. I'm not a good part of where.

[00:23:46] Well, you carry a cane not because you need it but as a deterrent. Don't make secrets. You're going to get a bad knee. But, you know, when I get the crap out of some gangbanger with the cane. Yeah. You never know. It takes one good lick. You know, it takes one good lick. Jack, I have missed. You know, you go back to our broadcast archives for so many years.

[00:24:14] Jack was a weekly mainstay. Been a minute. I saw this story from Chicago. I reached out to Jack. Instantly slipped back into the good old times and old form. And, Jack, let's make this a much more regular occurrence. Going forward. We'll have a few laughs at the third hour. But we'll get that phone connection fixed first. And we will talk to you again maybe as soon as next week. Stay tuned, everybody. Yes, sir.

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[00:30:18] I called Don Wassel 10 minutes, 15 minutes before the show started tonight. I said, Don, there's short notice and then there's what I'm about to ask you to do. And that is, can you come on tonight and close the show and talk about Caitlin Clark? I'll just give you one of the emails. This comes from Richard in Santa Rosa, California. A TPC listener and donor, he writes, James, thanks so much for sending the DVD of the speech by Jared Taylor. I really enjoyed his presentation.

[00:30:49] I was thinking that the situation with Caitlin Clark might be a good subject for one of your TPC broadcasts. If you're not familiar with the WNBA and Caitlin, that's the Women's National Basketball Association, and Caitlin, who is white, she's been plagued by vicious attacks by various black women players on other teams. She continues to take flagrant hits and pot shots from those players who I think are jealous of the publicity she gets, and mainly because she is white.

[00:31:16] Even former NFL quarterback Boomer Siason said she is a, quote, straight white player with no respect. And when it comes time to talking sports here, and first of all, let me just say, Richard, thank you for your email and everyone else who has emailed me about this topic, and thank you for your support. When it comes time to talk sports on TPC, there's one man we call, and it's Don Wassel. And, Don, I am so thankful to you, my friend, for coming on with us tonight on such short notice.

[00:31:46] Indeed. How are you? I'm great, James. Always happy to, as you said earlier, come off the bench. You can call me political cesspools sixth man, Tony Kukoc, John Havlicek. Put it in basketball terms, but great to be with you, man. I love talking sports. I played basketball. I love talking sports. And when you can politicize it and make it for a good segment on this radio, you're the man to call with cast football. But you're so much more than that, Don.

[00:32:15] I mean, Don, I couldn't even begin to give you a proper introduction because you are one of the lions of our movement. I mean, a guy who has always been there, whether it be with American Freedom News, the Nationalist Times, the Populist Party. I mean, and so many other stops you've made along your journey to advance our interest. And it's just great to have you tonight. Well, thanks. I appreciate that. Yeah, I've been at it for a long time, even longer than you.

[00:32:43] And I think I always pick the toughest ways to go because the Populist Party, it was a great idea. It was doing well for a while, but it's so hard to build a third party at the grassroots level in this country. I would say it's now impossible. Of course, now we're dealing with cast football, which started the same month that the political cesspool did, right, September of 2004.

[00:33:05] And that's been tough going to, even today when there's so many whites finally catching on to how things work, but not when it comes to sports. For some reason, a lot of aware whites, they either have no interest in sports and don't really think about it, or they go along with the media party line that blacks are just so gifted. And, you know, there's a meritocracy there, and the blacks are just so good that they dominate anything, any sport they play, which is complete rubbish.

[00:33:33] But so it's a hard nut to crack, and, you know, it's always good to be on here with you, a fellow sports fan. Well, indeed. And as I said before, I mean, we could enjoy sports. I mean, sports are our equivalent of the Gladiators, and it certainly serves as a substitute for racial pride.

[00:33:50] You have a pride in your team, and, you know, you see, unfortunately, hundreds of thousands of people in hundreds of locations every given Saturday in football season for college, and the pros as well, filling up these stadiums. But there is something to that psychologically. And I've got to say, Don, before we get to the topic at hand, for the last 20 minutes here, you got us by a month, my friend.

[00:34:16] And September of 2004, the political cesspool was still in the incubator. It wasn't until October of 2004 that we got on. So you got us by a month there. All right. I am there now. I am there now. Indeed, you did. Cast Football, C-A-S-T-E, football, F-O-O-T-B-A-L-L, castfootball.us.

[00:34:42] The best website on the planet for talking about sports through a racial lens. And so with all of that having been said, let's get to this current brouhaha in the WNBA. Now, to answer Richard in California, yes, I know who Caitlin Clark is very well. She was a college phenom in women's college basketball.

[00:35:08] She is an absolutely dead-eye shooter. She's an incredible athlete. As far as women's athletes go, she's also beautiful. And she is a player now for the Indiana franchise of the WNBA. And because she is white and because she is marketable and because she is very good at what she does and because she has natural good looks that the black bull lesbians in the league do not have,

[00:35:35] they have taken her as a target. Now, she's not just the sizzle. She has the substance. She is one of the most gifted players in the game. But it's interesting, of course, Don, that it is because of her that so much interest in the last couple of years has come to the WNBA. It's almost as if she is the golden goose and these anti-white racist black bull lesbians,

[00:36:04] instead of thanking her, are out there doing a WWE rendition, except instead of it being staged, it's all too real. The hate is real. I mean, they are actually out there trying to hurt her. I'll let you start. Give us your take on Caitlin Clark and what the whole zeitgeist is vis-a-vis her and women's professional basketball, and then we'll get into the current event. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I noticed when I was listening earlier, you said that even though you're a big basketball fan,

[00:36:34] you don't watch the WNBA. And I've never watched it, probably never will. Well, and the reason it's gotten so much publicity is because of Caitlin Clark. She was a tremendous college player at Iowa. And I think when she got into the WNBA with Indiana, I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean, the way the opponents, black opponents, were just pounding her physically. And she really got very little support from her own coach.

[00:37:02] I don't know if it's the same one they have now, Stephanie White. But I'll just read what somebody wrote on Cast Football. We have a long Caitlin Clark thread going. He wrote, her coach looks like a massive bull dyke. There's nothing worse to a player's confidence than to bench them after a turnover or a missed shot. It happens all the time to white men in the NBA, as we all know. I'm surprised that it happens to Caitlin with the amount of leverage she should have. Caitlin should never step on the court again as long as that nasty woman is the coach. And see, that's part of it, too.

[00:37:31] I think it's a black-lesbian-dominated league, but a lot of the whites are lesbians, too. And just as there's a lot of racial resentment of white athletes that are very good, I think there's a lot of natural resentment from white lesbians because they tend to be very left-wing. You think of the women's soccer team. What was it? Megan Rapano or whatever her name is with the purple hair. She was a communist hater.

[00:37:57] And so Caitlin comes into a league where there's almost no one sympathetic to her at all. And, of course, if you're white, you can't have any sympathy for you anyway. So I don't think she had any idea what she was getting into. I know at times she does fight back. She actually left the court, I guess, the other day when she was getting abused. And then her own coach is really unfair to her as well.

[00:38:21] So I think a lot of it, though, James, is it's okay for whites to be good athletes to a limited extent, but they're not supposed to be superstars in sports that are considered black-dominated. You look at football, where are the white running backs? Where are the white receivers? Where are the white cornerbacks? Oh, there's a very tiny sprinkling of them. But the thing is that the caste system in sports has been in place for so long

[00:38:48] that blacks consider football, at least most positions, in basketball to be theirs, especially certain positions. So when a white breaks through, he gets no sympathy. The locker room, as we call it, is very important in sports. They have to be, you know, blacks have to be appeased and submitted to to a certain degree. That's just the way it goes. It's like that in almost every sphere of society these days. You're always walking on eggshells.

[00:39:16] You can't really speak your mind even when something unfair is going on because you don't want to be called a racist. And so poor Caitlin, you know, she's been asked about race a few times, and she doesn't, you know, typically like Christian McCaffrey, the running back. He doesn't really say anything. You can't if you're white. You have to be on your best behavior at all times. You can't show any racial awareness. You know, the whole thing is stacked against you in that way as it is in society as a whole. So, you know, the league should have been bending over backwards to bring her in

[00:39:46] and give her, you know, she gave so much publicity to the league that it needs. But the thing is, you know, the WNBA in its own way is too big to fail. It's promoted and pushed and propped up by ESPN and corporate interest, you know, just like basketball in general. But the NBA wouldn't exist without ESPN. They cover the WNBA more than they cover hockey. So the agenda is always there. The narrative is always there. Yeah. And so Caitlin has stepped into something I'm sure she didn't anticipate.

[00:40:16] Well, I mean, I will say this about her. I mean, she is the Michael Jordan of that league in terms of marketability. Now, I will also say I have a little bit of a bias. Growing up, it just so happened, even though I was born and raised in Memphis, in the early 90s I was a huge fan of the Portland Trailblazers and of Clyde Drexler.

[00:40:40] I was very much devastated to see them lose the 1992 NBA Finals to the Chicago Bulls. But Michael Jordan said, Clyde Drexler is as good as me. He just doesn't know how to play the game. And the game was marketability. And through Jordan's charisma and the media attention, he was able to lift the entire NBA up to unforeseen levels. And Caitlin Clark, although she is a white heterosexual instead of a black male,

[00:41:06] she is doing the same for the WNBA, but there is no similar respect being bestowed onto her. There is a very real and visceral racial hatred being unleashed upon her. And I say, Don, the thing is, and I want to get into this thing with Sophie Cunningham, her teammate, in just a minute. But the thing is, if you commit a crime during league play, it's still a crime.

[00:41:36] You can remember, I'm sure, back in, I don't know if it was the 70s or the 80s, when Kermit Washington punched Rudy Tomjanovich in a basketball game. You have a black player, Kermit Washington, punching Rudy Tomjanovich. He could have killed him. He almost did kill him. I mean, you know, that's assault. That was sickening to watch. I mean, it still is. Yeah, yeah. That was way back when. But, I mean, you know, just because you're engaged in a sporting event doesn't give you the right to go out and try to assault people.

[00:42:04] And that is exactly what's happening to this very beautiful, you know, very model quality female basketball player, Caitlin Clark. And the most recent example was, and there are many examples, but the most recent one is, I mean, she was basically tackled and punched, punched in the throat in a game a few days ago, which is going to lead us into our next conversation. But this, with the last few minutes we have, but again,

[00:42:32] this whole thing about attractive, white, heterosexual doing well, not just doing well, but being one of the best players, and certainly the one whose media attention is lifting the entire league. What is the racial dynamic in play here? Well, what I should have added earlier, too, I'm sure the blacks and the white lesbians probably figure that she's a Republican, whether she is or not, and supports Trump just because she is heterosexual

[00:43:02] and nice, you know, relatively good-looking and feminine compared to them. So I think that's part of it, too. It's a pure race thing. It's a pure, you know, they just assume she's a Trump supporter. So that doubles their hatred. But, you know, like I said, it's like this all the time. I mean, I've been studying the NFL in particular. I used to follow basketball pretty closely, but I don't anymore. I just don't. And I'll never follow the WNBA other than, you know, vicariously through what I read and hear about Caitlin Clark.

[00:43:32] But, yeah, I mean, they don't – it's like the blacks have gotten accustomed to certain things. And when somebody is – all the great – think about it. It applies to entertainment, acting, even scientists. The greatest is always black in this society, right, whether that's deserved or not. I mean, I heard you talking about Stevie Wonder and some of these others, too. But, you know, when they herald somebody, it's always black. And it's particularly like that in sports. The greatest is always black.

[00:44:00] I mean, you think of basketball as Michael Jordan a lot more than you think of Larry Bird. In fact, I saw a list of the ten greatest players. Something like that. But, you know, it's like that in football, too. You know, the best running backs, the best receivers, the best defensive players, everything but a quarterback. And, of course, they're trying to tear that down. Everyone is black. Held up as the best. And so when a white comes along with a lot of talent, not just good talent, but a lot, enough to be a superstar, to be a Hall of Famer,

[00:44:27] there's a lot of pushback if they even can get in the league. I mean, there's a guy in the – well, he's not in the NBA. He should be. His name is Mack McClung. I think you've probably heard of him. He won the – Yes. Slam dunk contest. Slam dunk contest. Yeah. But he still doesn't play in the NBA. The guy – I don't know how to tell you. He's not all that tall for a basketball player, but he can jump through the roof and he can play defense. He's an incredible talent, but he still doesn't play in the NBA.

[00:44:54] And this happens to that scale in football and basketball. It's okay to be good to – they have their allotment or quota, whatever you want to call it. It's a cast system. So if you're white, you're a lower cast when it comes to sports. But some get through the best of the best and make it through all these hurdles. But don't be too good. You're going to hear it. I used to watch the NFL like 30 years ago when there's almost no white receivers. Now there's a handful. But, man, the black defenders, they would just crush them.

[00:45:23] They'd go out of their way to just crush them. You know, they'll hit each other sometimes too. But they were just launching themselves into these white receivers to knock them out, and they often did. And so, yeah, there's a lot of – and you can never tell with intent what the intent is sometimes. I mean, the other white running back in the league now is Cam Scadaboo. So we have two now. You know, oh, my, two. You know, there used to be a lot of them up until about 40, 50 years ago. But, you know, he had his ankle broken on a tackle last year.

[00:45:52] He was a big, strong, sturdy guy. Never really was injured before. It happened by a linebacker on Philadelphia named Zach Bond who's half white, half black. You know, and sometimes those are the most racist people. And, you know, you can't prove that it was intent. But this guy was knocked out, one of the two white running backs. And whites get knocked out a lot. I'm sure it happens in basketball too. I mean, Caitlin Clark's a good example. So there's a lot of racial resentment. Blacks are brought up this way.

[00:46:17] There's, I'm not saying all are like that, but there's enough, especially the ones that come from the ghetto where, you know, they don't have a father. And by the way, James, that interview you did with Roger Devel and American Free Press was excellent. That was an excellent interview. Thank you. Thank you, Don. Hey, listen, coming from you, brother. That means a lot. Thank you for even reading it, much less complimenting it. Oh, yeah. I always read American Free Press. Everyone listening should subscribe to it. It's a really good paper. But, you know, that's what it is. It's just racial resentments. They can't put things in perspective sometimes.

[00:46:46] You know, they just, they think that it's theirs. And, of course, whites encourage it. You can't, if you're white, there's never going to get any sympathy for being white in this society. And we really don't have any organizations defending us of note or size. So it's a lonely thing. I would say Caitlin Clark has been treated a lot worse than Jackie Robinson was 80 years ago. I mean, you read about Jackie Robinson. Well, you know, there was an opponent that called him that, you know, that word that blacks call each other all the time.

[00:47:14] But it's a crime against humanity when whites do it. And, you know, a few fans heckled him or whatever. But, you know, he was basically treated well. Compare that in 2026, 80 years later, to what Caitlin Clark has to put up with. All right. So, you know, the double standards and the hypocrisy is just unbelievable. So let's get to this with the five minutes remaining or so, a little bit more than that. But the most recent thing going on, which is just taking the social media over.

[00:47:42] And this is Caitlin Clark's teammate, Sophie Cunningham. Here's a story I'm reading from now. It is national news on X or Twitter, if you prefer. You type in Sophie Cunningham. You'll see what we're talking about. It is everywhere. Indiana Fever player Sophie Cunningham has taken the Internet by storm this week, thanks to her interaction with Phoenix Mercury's Dewana Bonner, a black player, during Monday's matchup in Indiana.

[00:48:11] This would have been last Monday, almost a week ago. WNBA's blonde bombshell, and she really is. I mean, we're talking about an eight minimum. She looks like a Greek goddess. I don't even understand. She is now officially the most popular meme in the WNBA season. For context, late in the fourth quarter, tensions flared after Caitlin Clark and Bonner got into a verbal exchange following a foul. Ever since Bonner essentially deserted the fever last season.

[00:48:41] So she, now this just goes to show, Don, I think the absurdity of the WNBA writ large. This sentence I'm about to read. Ever since Bonner deserted the fever last season so she could play with her fiance, Alyssa Thomas. Yes. So she moved to another team. I mean, you can't even, could you imagine like, you know, Larry Bird and, you know, like Robert Parrish, you like being in a relationship. It's just absurd. Well, that's two of the ugliest people you can mention. But yeah. So this is what's going on here.

[00:49:11] And. Hey, I'm probably why as they come. But Larry Bird and Kevin McHale weren't the two most attractive boys out of the world. So imagine like Larry Bird forcing himself onto the Celtics so he could be with his boyfriend. I mean, this is the WNBA where everybody knows that the vast majority are lesbians. But anyway. So she could play with her fiance, Alyssa Thomas, who was suspended Thursday for punching Clark in the throat. So now you have this teammate of Caitlin Clark's, Sophie Cunningham.

[00:49:40] And this villain who I just read about, she said, don't point at me. Dewana Bonner, the black lesbian who moved to another team so she could be with her fiance, another black female player. This is just ridiculous. But she said, don't point at me. And then Sophie, Caitlin Clark's teammate, proceeded to point at her for 22 seconds in

[00:50:07] a silent stare down that is, to use the term, melted the Internet. And she looks very good while doing it and is done with flair and panache and theatrics and is just totally dominating social media this weekend. A lot of people in our ranks are saying it is, you know, a beautiful white heterosexual blonde, you know, sort of standing her own ground. Do you read into it that far, Don? Yeah. What is it? Yeah.

[00:50:36] I mean, it's, you know, just as Caitlin Clark is not allowed to lash out or say anything in her defense racially, you know, you're not, if you're white, you're not even allowed to defend her. And to her credit, Sophie Cunningham is. I mean, they're calling her, I guess, the enforcer. I don't know if she is or isn't, but I'm sure she's a tough girl. So, you know, I'm looking at images of her on Google right now. She kind of reminds me. I mean, she has a pleasant countenance, great smile, very attractive, obviously.

[00:51:03] She kind of reminds me of what young women look like back in the day, you know, before feminism, before toxic feminism, you know, when they were so much sweeter and feminine and enjoyable to be around. So she looks like a really good person that way. But she's 6'1", a great athlete, obviously, too. She probably beat the heck out of you and me. So, you know, we're not overly sweet. But, yeah, she stood up for her teammate. I mean, for that even to be controversial, the only, what should be controversial is why

[00:51:29] nobody else is and why Caitlin keeps getting, you know, picked on. Injured. I mean, you know, Caitlin Clark missed a game, the game tonight with a back injury sustained from these black lesbians coming in and just, you know, basically trying to Kermit Washington her. There's a huge sense of entitlement there, James, unfortunately. I mean, think of the Austin Metcalfe murder in Texas. Here's this black kid. You know what I'm talking about, right? Oh, of course. Yeah. No, we've been covering it. Yeah.

[00:52:00] Sure. And so here's this black kid that comes into the wrong tent, maybe deliberately, maybe not. But they inform him he's in the wrong tent. He's on a different team. You don't come into another team's tent. And they ask him to leave over and over again. And eventually, you know, Austin, I guess, gave him a little shove or something. The guy pulls out on the mic and murders him. And not only that, but then you've got a huge number of blacks defending the murderer. I mean, they think that if you touch a black person, they have the right to kill you. I mean, that's basically what they're arguing.

[00:52:30] So that's what you're dealing with in the WNBA to some degree. And again, it's not all blacks, but there's that element there for sure. You know, the whole thing about respect and disrespect is just so out of proportion and out of whack. And that's why, you know, a lot of whites are walking on eggshells all the time. You know, you're looking at someone the wrong way. A great comparison comparing Caitlin Clark to Jackie Robinson.

[00:52:55] And, you know, she has no cover, though, from the commissioner to her own coach to the media. I mean, she does have Sophie Cunningham, you know, another attractive heterosexual white female player in the WNBA. And they are rare, let me assure you, in that league. She has that. But it would not surprise me, Don, if the next time you're on the show we're talking about, you know,

[00:53:18] some sort of cataclysmic injury that Caitlin Clark has suffered as a result of the anti-white racist blacks in the league. Castfootball.us. C-A-S-T-E. Castfootball.us is where you need to go if you want to engage in conversations about racial dynamics in sports. Whether it be the sports people watch, like the NFL or the NBA, or even the other leagues as well.

[00:53:46] But, Don, always great to talk to you. Final word to you with seconds remaining. I want to thank Ron Unz, Jared Taylor, Jack Ryan, and now our longtime friend Don Wessel. Don, 30 seconds. Go. Well, that was quite a rostered guest you had on tonight, James. That's awesome. Well, I'm just glad to be back on. Castfootball, we talk about politics. We talk about everything there. It's a good place to hang out. If you like forums, I know they're not as popular as they used to be, but if you're into the racial dynamics of sports, that's the place to go.

[00:54:17] And thanks for having me on, James. I appreciate it. Always a pleasure. Thank you for accepting the invitation on such short notice. It was a delight to close the show with you and talk about this topic that the audience had requested. And so your wish is our command here. And when you wish it, we're going to go to the very best. And Don is the best on this issue. We'll talk to you next week, everybody. Our 4th of July extravaganza. A week from tonight. 350 years of America. What does it mean? We'll talk about it.

[00:54:47] Good night. God bless you.