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[00:01:21] It is prime time summer vacation time. And you're going to want books for that trip, especially if you're going to the beach or something like that. Well, Taylor Young from the Antelope Hill Publishing editorial team is back with us tonight with two summer reading selections. But before we reveal those, let's first say hello. Taylor, it's great to have you back tonight. Well, hello. It's great to be back on here, as always.
[00:01:48] Very happy to be here to talk to you and all the listeners. You have almost, my friend, boxed yourself in. I think the standard of excellence at Antelope Hill has risen to such an extent. I don't know how you begin to beat it.
[00:02:05] I mean, just last month, it was a month ago this week, I guess, the last week of April, you and I were on with the translator of Germany and Stalin's crosshairs. And that was Hans Vogel. And that was just a fascinating hour, talking about the lead up to Operation Barbarossa. And I know quite a few people who I know personally who told me they bought a book, a copy of that book as a result of that interview.
[00:02:35] I don't know how many in total ended up doing that. That was just such a fascinating topic. We spent the whole hour on that. Barbarossa is such a pivotal point in history. And, by the way, I mean, certainly still go to antelopehillpublishing.com and get that book. And just in the last hour, Kevin MacDonald, who, of course, Antelope Hill exclusively published the third edition of Culture of Critique, which was vastly expanded. I mean, you're doing work at a very high level.
[00:03:03] I mean, you always have been, but I think the last few months, it has just really exceeded previous years' output. Well, thank you. Always very nice to always hear the kind words that you have for us. And, yeah, we're very proud of all the work that we do and very glad that we've just had some very interesting books coming out. And we'll have more interesting books throughout the year.
[00:03:32] We'll have some other authors whose names people might recognize. I think I told you about one that we're hoping to release at the end of the year. It's going to be by a pretty well-known American name, which I'm not going to spoil at this time. But, yeah, the Germany book and, of course, Kevin MacDonald's book are great additions to our catalog that I definitely encourage everyone to pick up. So, again, we're very happy.
[00:03:59] We're very proud of all the work that we put out and we're happy that people like it. This is Keith Taylor. What I like about Antelope Hill is that it really provokes thought. For example, your book on Germany and Operation Barbarossa. I was going to say which one. Okay, gotcha.
[00:04:21] Well, in particular, you know, people need to understand, and they don't hear it in normal history class, that Hitler did not want war with Britain or America or even France. He wanted – he was an anti-communist grassroots leader who wanted war with Russia. And I think that had a lot to do with his decision to go forward on Barbarossa. But, you know, you don't get that type of – Well, that and the fact that Russia was about – Yeah, right, and they were about to go.
[00:04:50] Yeah, basically Russia and Germany looked at each other as existential enemies. But, you know, the rest of it was – He didn't look at the United States or England. Right. If Hitler had his way, there would have been no Western Front. And we talked about that last month. That's a great point, Keith, and we got into that with Taylor and Hans, the translator. That is a book everybody should have. I was at Sam Dixon's house in Atlanta, and he was preparing to receive that book, Germany and Stalin's Crossroads.
[00:05:20] And had there not been a Western Front, I feel sure Hitler would have won, and basically Europe would not have spent half a century under communist rule. All right. That having been said, let's get into the topics of tonight and the books of this evening that we want to showcase. And let's start with the one on Mussolini, because I think if you look at the big four of World War II, you're looking at certainly Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, and Roosevelt.
[00:05:53] Mussolini cast a wide shadow. I mean, there's no doubt about it. Very interesting. But perhaps has it risen to the level of historical remembrance as some of the others of that most consequential decade in world history. You've got a brand new book out about Mussolini. We'll give you a little more information from the back cover text in the next segment, folks. But what have you got there, Taylor? At antelopehillpublishing.com tonight, just in time for summer reading. Yes.
[00:06:23] So the latest book is Il Duce Massimo. This is our latest collection of Mussolini speeches. And actually, now it bookends pretty well with another one of our books. So this latest book is his earliest speeches and writings that are available. And we talk a little bit more about that, kind of its place in fascist history, as he wasn't actually a fascist at this time. He was a socialist.
[00:06:48] But it's still pretty intimately connected with his overall ideological development. So this is his earliest collection of speeches. And we also, our book Rise and Fight is his final speeches and writings and his political testament from the very end of his life. And we have another book that kind of fits in between those and another collection of his speeches. So it's a lot of material out there by Mussolini.
[00:07:15] And we're translating it into English and making it available for people. So we can talk more about that, but it's an introduction to what we've got here. Yeah. Let me say this, if I could, Taylor. You know, when I read Mussolini's speeches, I'm inspired. I think he's a really smart guy. But then you have to measure that to the pathetic performance of the Italian military in World War II.
[00:07:44] I guess having good ideas and having a good army don't necessarily go together. Well, how are you going to defend that entire coastline? It's a pretty big thing. Well, you know, he made this gratuitous invasion on Greece right before Barbarossa and basically diverted a lot of Hitler's army to helping him bail out Mussolini in the Grecian campaign.
[00:08:11] There's a lot of coastline in Europe, fortress Europe, as it were. But that may not be tangential to what we're talking about tonight. I mean, nevertheless, he was an inspiring figure. I mean, yes, I think when you look at how different armies performed in that war, that, you know, it begs the point you brought up, Keith. But I don't know how tangential that is to the text here because these speeches are evergreen. And these speeches are prior to that window there. But let's talk more about Mussolini.
[00:08:39] As I said, Taylor, in comparison to the other heads of state at that time, he didn't rise to the level of, you know, certainly Hitler or Stalin or even the heads of states of the allies in some ways. But in some ways, equally inspiring. What is it about Mussolini that stands out to you and that you felt compelled to lead you to publish these transcriptions of his words?
[00:09:06] Well, I would say for one, he was very much a man of the hour in his time for Italy. And, you know, to kind of the question of Italy's military performance and all that, it bears remembering that Italy was a very young state that had only recently become unified. And, you know, it kind of became unified. Yes, that's true.
[00:09:30] But, you know, it was a very young state that still had a lot of economic problems and social problems. And Mussolini was kind of one of the first to the scene when it comes to, you know, fascism in its very broad categorization.
[00:09:49] You know, and that's also, again, an important aspect of these early speeches is, you know, this is the kind of the you can see glimpses of the development of fascism in his thought. So Mussolini was very much a trailblazer ideologically when it came to fascism that would inspire many other people, you know, and other branches, other like subcategories of fascism much more broadly.
[00:10:18] And he was also, again, the man of the hour in Italy. And I think you said, James, you know, his speeches are inspiring. And that's absolutely true. It's a very energetic person who was always, always looking for a fight, really, but generally in the best way. And that comes through in how he talks and it comes through in how he lived his life at each stage of it. We're going to take a break.
[00:10:47] When we come back, we're going to do another segment on this book about Mussolini that is available just in time for your summer vacation at antelopehillpublishing.com. And then another one also of the same period, Imperium of Thoughts. Hey, friends, it's James. Did you know that every issue of the American Free Press now features my own published Q&A interviews with one of your favorite guests from the radio program? That's right. The American Free Press has officially partnered with TPC to expand our audience into the realm of print media.
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[00:12:14] That's what government needs, a 1% pay cut. If you take a 1% pay cut across the board, you have more than enough money to actually pay for the disaster relief. But nobody's going to do that because they're fiscally irresponsible. Who are they? Republicans. Who are they? Democrats. Who are they? Virtually the whole body is careless and reckless with your money. So the money will not be offset by cuts anywhere. The money will be added to the debt, and there will be a day of reckoning.
[00:12:44] What's the day of reckoning? The day of reckoning may well be the collapse of the stock market. The day of reckoning may be the collapse of the dollar. When it comes, I can't tell you exactly, but I can tell you it has happened repeatedly in history when countries ruin their currency. Well, I'll tell you, folks.
[00:13:11] I'm at antelopehillpublishing.com, and I'm looking at this book on Mussolini. It's at the very top center of their featured products. And I'll give you just some anecdotal history on Mussolini that I think makes him a standout, and it comes at the very end of the war and very nearly the end of his life. Hitler and Mussolini met for the last time on July the 20th of 1944. That was their last meeting.
[00:13:40] And that happened on the exact same day of the attempted assassination of Hitler, led by the traitor Klaus von Stauffenberg, who was played by Tom Cruise in the movie Valkyrie. This was Operation Valkyrie at the Wolf Slayer. So, I mean, imagine this, folks. Hitler survives this bombing.
[00:14:06] Mussolini arrives, and they still have their meeting on July the 20th, 1944. They even surveyed the wreckage of the Wolf Slayer after this assassination attempt and then, you know, of course, discussed what was then at that point the rapidly deteriorating war situation in the summer of 1944. Listen, whatever side of the divide you land on, Mussolini was a fascinating man. He was a man of the hour, a man of history, and his words should be studied.
[00:14:35] Am I right about that, Taylor? Yes, absolutely. And, you know, whatever else you may think or want to say about Mussolini, he was absolutely a very courageous person and also a very principled person. And, you know, despite the ideological development he went through during the course of his life, that still remains very much the case.
[00:15:02] I mean, you know, earlier on in his life, he actually was a draft dodger. He was escaping conscription. He fled to Switzerland, and he was outside of Italy for a while. And so you may think, oh, you know, this guy's trying to, like, avoid fighting or he's afraid of serving his country. Well, not the case. He did end up serving out his conscription period at a later point,
[00:15:29] and then afterward he volunteered to fight in World War I, and he ended up leaving the socialist movement because he was agitating for Italy to be involved in World War I. And he served with distinction in that conflict. And I think, if I remember correctly, he got – he received some award for it. I'm not 100 percent sure. But in any case, there's no doubt about the fact that he served very honorably in that conflict.
[00:15:56] So, you know, throughout his whole life at whatever stage, he was very much a man of both courage and principle. Yeah, you look at the tripartite pact between Germany and Italy and Japan, and Hitler, you might argue, was brought down by his allies. Italy with the, you know, bad blunders he made militarily.
[00:16:25] And with Japan, the second biggest strategic blunder of the war was the attack on Pearl Harbor. And the number one was Hitler on December the 8th, the day after Pearl Harbor, declaring war on the United States. Totally an unforced error. Under the tripartite pact, he had to go and fight on behalf of Japan if Japan was invaded, but Japan had not been invaded. So there was absolutely no need to do that.
[00:16:54] But it's just unfortunate for the white race that things turned out the way that they did, in my opinion. You know, this Monday morning quarterbacking, I mean, I hear what you're saying, Keith. And, of course, Japan was absolutely – That is true. History is Monday morning quarterbacking. It is 100 percent true. And what you're saying is not discounted. But, I mean, of course, Japan was manipulated into that war. We all know that. I mean, I get it. I get it. But that is not to take away.
[00:17:19] I certainly don't want to cast any aspersions or disparage Mussolini in any way by saying, well, you know, men of history made blunders. Yes, I mean, who doesn't? He wasn't – he should have stayed in his lane and been an intellectual and a politician but not a military. Well, so you're saying, I think – and, of course, Antelope Hill has also brought forth, you know, the works of Franco. And we've discussed Franco. He should have stayed sort of like a neutral ally. That would have been perfect.
[00:17:48] Well, in any event, you want to know what he thought. You want to know what he said. You want to know what he wrote. You can read it. Benito Mussolini, the Duke of Italian Fascism and Prime Minister of Italy from 1922 to 1943, is a man of undeniable historical impact that we all can agree on. This arrangement contains his oldest political speeches and writings. This goes back to the very beginning of the Mussolini we would come to know through history.
[00:18:17] At antelopehillpublishing.com, it spans the early days of his entry into politics to the first attempt on his life, the first of many, as a socialist organizer. A few short years later, Mussolini would be expelled from the Italian Socialist Party for advocating for Italian intervention in the First World War. These writings provide a fascinating glimpse into the early life and career
[00:18:42] before he would steer Italian and European politics onto a new trajectory altogether, setting events in motion that would reverberate across the entire world, from a young man of a humble background and no aspirations beyond being a simple schoolteacher, through his period as a political exile to a struggling young writer on the cusp of working as a newspaper editor and a party secretary.
[00:19:11] And undeniable radicalism shines through. In these essays and speeches, one can already see a glimpse into the man who would rise to unimaginable heights and leave his mark on history. And he certainly did that. And for those reasons, we want you to go to antelopehillpublishing.com. They are proud to preserve the earliest speeches and political writings of Benito Mussolini in this newly edited physical edition.
[00:19:40] It's a new release, Taylor. Again, I ask, of all the things, and I'm always so fascinated, I think I ask you every time you're on, you know, why this? Why now? What was the chain of events? But it's always an interesting question, and it's always an interesting answer you give. Why this particular book on Mussolini at this time?
[00:20:04] Well, I think that, you know, despite the fact that these are historical speeches, so a lot of them are very much grounded in their specific time and place in terms of what he's actually commenting on and what he has to say, there's definitely applicable lessons. And both in, like, the immediate substance and, again, in the illustration of the trajectory of Mussolini's own life and his own thought.
[00:20:32] And it's also interesting to compare with other similar figures. So, for example, one of the other books in our catalog that this one kind of reminded me of while I was reading it was our book on Oswald Mosley and the British fascism. Now, Mosley, I don't believe, was ever considered himself a socialist, but he was a member of the Labour Party at one point.
[00:20:56] And you had very similar, some very similar dynamics in both cases where both of these men were trying to achieve, like, tangible material changes to benefit their respective nations. And they were trying to work through kind of the existing, you know, party or organizational structure, Mussolini of the socialists and Mosley at one point through Labour, at one point through the Conservatives, at one point as an Independent.
[00:21:23] And it wasn't fit for purpose. And, you know, Mosley discovered that the Labour Party was really just uninterested in actually enacting any serious change, much the same as Republican Party is for us in many ways. And Mussolini also discovered that a lot of the socialist party was dominated by reformers or reformists, I should say,
[00:21:52] and people who were essentially just trying to compromise and get by and not really rock the boat, which to him was kind of, you know, well, defeats the point of the whole enterprise then, because, you know, we're trying to achieve better conditions for the Italian workers. So they both faced some similar struggles and also just struggles that I think are in many ways similar to us today, where we have a lot of the same issues. We have a lot of concrete material issues.
[00:22:22] And we have politicians and political organizations that will say one thing, but, you know, when you try to push them to actually do something, they don't really – not only are they slow about it, but in fact, eventually you discover that it's actually their purpose to not do anything, and it's their purpose to just kind of stifle popular energy. And both Mosley and Mussolini discovered that,
[00:22:47] which is part of what set them on to the track to being pioneers of fascism, both as an ideology and as a method and as a general historical force. Well, do you think, Taylor, that there was this grandiosity about Mussolini possibly trying to recapture the glory of the Roman Empire that led him into the military? It would seem to me that it would have been better for the world and definitely better for Germany
[00:23:16] if he had followed the course of Franco and Mosley and stayed out of the military realm, because he obviously had a lot of good ideas, and he was a powerful speaker and a compelling politician. But the military involvement, if he had done like Franco and basically said Italy is off limits, you can't use it as a staging ground either side of the thing,
[00:23:45] I think that Germany would have had a much easier time trying to conquer Russia, for example. What do you think? Yeah, it's very hard to say, and you probably also have to consider how would Germany have gotten to Africa, so there's probably some kind of give and take there.
[00:24:11] But I also, I'm just not very aware of myself of what actually led Italy into World War II specifically. I mean, obviously, you know, you're right that he did have kind of imperial ambitions for Italy, but my understanding is that this was just Italy joined as a matter of being allied with Germany, and so there wasn't necessarily that much choice in it. So I don't know if it was his fault, if it was Hitler's, or it's just kind of how things turned out. But, yeah.
[00:24:40] We'll talk a little bit more about it when we come back, and then we're going to transition to another selection on Antelope Hill's summer reading charts, The Imperium of Thoughts. Stay tuned. Informing citizens. Pursuing liberty. You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from Town Hall. I'm Mary Rose. As the world awaits President Trump's decision on the Iran nuclear deal,
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[00:30:19] And listen, Keith, I got to say, I wax nostalgic on Mussolini. I think he was fascinating. I certainly think he was a hero. I mean, say what you will about the strategy and the tactics of involving Italy in that war. A lot of mistakes were made in that war. A lot of mistakes are made by all people at all times. Mussolini, though, hero or villain? He was a hero.
[00:30:45] But unfortunately, it would have been much better for the world and for Italy if he had been a hero like Franco and Oswald Mosley. If he had stayed out of the military. He got Hitler involved in North Africa. He didn't even consult Hitler about going into Greece and basically sabotaged Hitler's plans about Barbarossa in Russia. All right.
[00:31:11] Well, so still, these speeches are fascinating. They have been brought back to life as so many forgotten texts of antiquity have been by antelopehillpublishing.com. And I would just say this about Mussolini. I mean, of course, he was summarily executed in the spring of 1945.
[00:31:37] He and his travel companion, they were shot by a firing squad and their bodies were hung upside down in Milan. But unlike the other two leaders of the Axis, Hitler and... Tojo, I guess. Well, no, no, the emperor. Hirohito, yeah, Emperor Hirohito. So, Mussolini has a granddaughter who's a member of parliament, a member of the European parliament today.
[00:32:05] That's Alessandra Mussolini. That way, he was her paternal grandfather. There's no... I don't think there's any doubt that Mussolini was an Italian patriot. And he was a smart person and he was a very skilled politician. Final word to you on this book, Taylor, and then we'll transition to the other we need to cover tonight. Yeah, well, thank you, as always. And I would just encourage people to get it.
[00:32:30] I think we've talked a lot about Mussolini was definitely a very interesting figure. And, you know, you may know some things about him and his general kind of place in history and kind of like a very, very broad overview of his life. But he's very interesting when you start to actually read his words.
[00:32:54] And especially if you just like history, you'll enjoy reading the speeches for their historical value. But if you're more interested in, you know, Mussolini as a world historical figure and the ideological content, then all the more so I would definitely recommend this book as well as our other books on Mussolini. And like I said, it gives you a very interesting introduction to his political thought and to his ideological development.
[00:33:24] Because, again, it is actually a collection of his pre-fascist speeches and his pre-fascist thoughts. So you can see kind of what would develop into Italian fascism and, you know, and thereby you have the seeds of a lot of the other fascist movements as well that are contained in this book and in Mussolini. So, yeah, he's a very multifaceted person. And I think that there's a lot to learn from and a lot to appreciate.
[00:33:53] A man of history indeed. And his paternal granddaughter is a member of parliament today, the European Parliament. Let me ask Taylor one last question on this. Yeah. Do you think he was an anti-communist and that was his primary motivation or was it something else? Yeah, I mean, he definitely was an anti-communist. I think that an Italian patriot is probably the best way to summarize him.
[00:34:21] And he definitely developed, you know, more and more of like a national idea and a consciousness of, you know, Italy's interests as a people and as a state, which contributed to the formation of fascism. But, you know, they also, the fascists fought directly with the Reds. They helped prevent, you know, like a Bolshevik Italy.
[00:34:47] So that was very much something that was on people's minds at the time everywhere in Europe and also on the minds of some of the people who contributed to the next book that we'll talk about here. Well, let's get into that because I intended to split the hour equally between these two titles. But again, I mean, when you're talking about one of the three heads of states of the Axis and the one that, well, I mean, you certainly don't hear, you know, a lot about the Italian, excuse me, the Japanese emperor.
[00:35:15] But of the other heads of states of the Allies, you hear about Mussolini less. Equally fascinating for so many reasons. We've covered that. Go to AntelopePillPublishing.com and dive into it. But let's now talk about the Imperium of Thought. So this presents two rare national socialist texts from the final years of the Second World War. So we're going back to early Mussolini, but now with Imperium of Thought, the final years of World War II,
[00:35:42] offering a direct window into the worldview of that era. This is important. From non-German volunteers. So these texts were penned by men of the Dutch SS and were originally published for Adolf Hitler's 55th birthday. This is at the very end of the war.
[00:36:02] Once again, Antelope Hill Publishing proud to publish this historical source material for all who wish to examine the mechanisms of ideology and propaganda from within. Let's talk about the Imperium of Thought available now for your summer reading at AntelopeHillPublishing.com. Yeah, so this is a very interesting book. So like, as you noted, it's a collection of two writings.
[00:36:29] Writings and those in themselves are also kind of collections of essays that were written by several members of the Dutch branch of the SS, which in itself has a very interesting history. The Netherlands developed this National Socialist Party. I think it was called the National Socialist Movement.
[00:36:49] It was a German National Socialist Movement before the war that was inspired largely by German National Socialism, but was different from it in some ways. It was less anti-Semitic. It was also less racial.
[00:37:03] And some of the key figures in that kind of like they used it to advance a more German, a more like you could say, I guess, Hitlerian, you know, brand of National Socialism, which was pan-Germanic and, you know, just more similar to the German brand.
[00:37:30] And so their kind of like sub-organization became a volunteer military unit, which was then incorporated into the Viking division of the SS, which is also the same one that Leon de Greil served in, I'm pretty sure.
[00:37:46] So there's a lot of interesting history here and, you know, it is very interesting from the perspective of, you know, there was this actual Dutch National Socialist Movement that was homegrown, that was organic, that was a reaction to Hitler's ideas from, you know, from across the border.
[00:38:06] And also, you know, interesting or kind of subtle distinction here to be made in that, yes, they are non-German, but they do see themselves as Germanic. And that is a big part of the book and especially of the second portion of it, which is called the Reich Idea, which one of the authors defines essentially as unifying Germans against the threat of Bolshevism.
[00:38:37] Fascinating indeed. I mean, we're talking about the SS, SS volunteers, the Dutch SS. You got two texts here, Adolf Hitler, Fuhrer of all Germanic peoples, and the companion text, the Reich Idea. This, again, summer reading. And I'll tell you why in the next segment, why it feels as though World War II history ought to be summer reading and why that got instilled in me.
[00:39:01] I think we may have mentioned it last month where we were beginning to head into summer at the end of April with Hans Vogel and talking about the Barbarossa in Germany and the Stalin's Crosshairs. But it does seem as though this is a fine fit for your beach trip.
[00:39:24] And, well, again, when you're talking about the fighting forces of all time, let me just ask you this. I mean, you look back. Why is it? Is it the aesthetic? Is it the consequences, the stakes? Why is it, Taylor, that World War II and Germany's participation in World War II specifically sort of captures the imagination,
[00:39:50] sort of just fascinates people entirely? I mean, I'm a Southerner born and bred. You know, we do a Confederate History Month series. It's the war between the states, all of that. This is my blood. But, I mean, there's something about Germany and World War II that just really – It's compelling. All the wars and all the belligerents in world history and in war history, there's something about this one that just –
[00:40:19] whatever your position on the war may be. It's a compelling subject. Why? Why is it? I mean, because Antelope Hill has dedicated so much of its catalog to this topic. Well, I mean, maybe part of it is that as a Southerner, you had a common enemy. But in the northern occupation government. But, well, maybe I'll wait until after the break to get back into it. We'll come back.
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[00:42:57] So I think I mentioned this last month when Taylor Young was on with Hans Vogel to discuss Germany and Stalin's crosshairs.
[00:43:22] That summertime, I've always sort of associated with books about World War II. The reason for that being, we got into this rhythm with Pat Buchanan. Every time he would release a new book, the very first Saturday after that, he would come on this show. And so was the case in the summer... The Unnecessary War and Hitler, the Unnecessary War.
[00:43:50] That was released on May the 27th of 2008. So here we are now, May 30th, 2026, talking about books of, well, similar books in some ways. Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War, How Britain Lost His Empire, and the West Lost the World is the full title. It was officially released on May the 27th of 2008, days after that. Pat was on the show to talk about it, and he said he wanted people to buy the book and take it on summer vacation.
[00:44:17] So I've been saying that the last couple of months as we've talked about some similar titles and similar topics with Taylor Young and the Antelope Hill catalog. This is summertime reading. Take it to the beach with you, and you won't be... Don't get it wet, and don't get too much sand. And listen to the Beach Boys on the way down. I mean, that's important, too, but let's go back and talk a little bit more about this second title, Taylor.
[00:44:42] So, again, we're going back to the early part of Benito Mussolini's becoming with the book on his early writings and thoughts, and now all the way to the end of World War II, this book that is a collection of two texts that were penned by non-German volunteers, members of the Dutch SS. What are people going to learn when they read Imperium of Thought?
[00:45:12] Well, I think that one of the things to learn about is probably part of the answer to the question that you posed in the previous segment of why this is so fascinating to people. Yeah, let's go back to that, too. Go ahead. Well, I'll just tie it into this. So, I mean, again, you have very... And, you know, obviously I'm here to say nice things about our catalog, but of all the unique works in our catalog,
[00:45:38] I think this is one that nevertheless still stands out because, again, you had this organic national socialist movement that developed outside of Germany's borders, and many of whose most active and most prominent members just became fanatical, ideological disciples of national socialism. They had their own.
[00:46:04] They were the only, I think, the only SS publication outside of Germany, or they operated an SS publication essentially kind of like without oversight. They were just allowed to print their own stuff before it was, like, translated or censored or anything like that by the German national socialists, that is.
[00:46:32] So, you know, you have a very unique origin for this work, and out of that you have people who, you know, like many people are today, were so fascinated by the idea of national socialism and what Hitler represented, not just in an immediate sense, but in a world historical and racial and a civilizational sense that, you know, they wrote the things recorded in this book.
[00:46:59] Many of them fought on the Eastern Front as well as the Western Front, and, yeah, they were devoted to activists. So part of the answer, you know, lies in what they had to say, and they very much saw national socialism and Hitler, again, not as just like a kind of purely a German nationalism or something like that or something very, like, contextual, very immediate,
[00:47:28] but something that had a much grander purpose and a much grander potential in what it could achieve for European civilization. And part of that was the struggle against Bolshevism, and again, the part of the Reich idea is this idea of unifying the Germanic peoples, both inside and outside Germany's borders, as this bulwark in Europe against the East.
[00:47:56] And, you know, along with this longing for, like, a truly unified, you know, and strong Europe that would be able to stand up to enemies from any direction. So I think that that is at least part of the answer is that, you know, the war was about a lot more than just, you know, Germany's immediate territorial ambitions or however the story is told.
[00:48:24] And everyone, I think, kind of innately understands that and just in general understands, you know, that there's the tremendous legacy that World War II has on our present world configuration. Taylor, do you think that the authors, one, thought of themselves as a Germanic people
[00:48:48] and they saw Germany and Hitler as standard bearers for the, like, Nordic people, you know, to use Madison Grant's phrase? And secondly, do you think that when they wrote these things, as late as it was, that they had some inkling that basically the end was near for them? Well, to the first question, yes, absolutely.
[00:49:11] That is a big part of what motivated them was, again, this pan-Germanic ideal. And there was a smaller National Socialist party that started later in the Netherlands, and it was very much explicitly pro-Germanic, and it wanted the Dutch to see themselves not as Dutch, but as Germans, as a common Germanic people.
[00:49:39] And some of the authors of the texts in the book write about, you know, how they hope for integration into a larger Germanic state and how that wouldn't be anything bad for the Dutch as a people. It wouldn't involve, like, any destruction of heritage or anything like that, and it would be a positive development.
[00:50:03] As for, you know, I'm not sure at what point they realized that things are probably not going to turn out that way, but as far as I know, all of the authors of the texts in the book were willing to pretty much fight to the end. I mean, most of them survived the war, so in one way or another, they at least got out of being killed. Some of them were tried and imprisoned afterwards.
[00:50:34] But, I mean, that's like, it's really quite something to think about, not just in their case, but just in general all the Germans who were fighting up until the very end of the war. It's like, that must have been pretty terrible, but, you know, what else can you do in their circumstance?
[00:50:55] And it certainly speaks to a tremendous level of courage and fortitude that they would be able to continue fighting even in those circumstances. And by no means was it only just the Germans. I mean, this is something that is also lost to history, is that people throughout Europe and the different nations as we know Europe to be configurated today, people in those nations were partisans on behalf of Germany.
[00:51:25] I know one sitting member of a national parliament today who called hell some years ago for laying flowers on the graves of people in his nation who allied with Germany during the war and were veterans of that war on behalf of the German side or the Axis side. Anyway, that's a topic for a whole other conversation, perhaps a whole other book at antelopehillpublishing.com. Still so much to look forward to from them.
[00:51:54] Taylor, it's so great. You know, as I say, every time we talk, and it is often, but it's so great to collaborate with you here on the airwaves and with the Antelope Hill team and to see all of the production over the course of the last couple of years since we've been allied and to see where it's going and to know that there is so much more still to come.
[00:52:18] But for right now, print is not dead in so much as there is still a wide market for good books and certainly unique books and novelty books like this that you cannot get anywhere else. It's bringing text back to life, bringing all new things to bear.
[00:52:38] Well, preserving history, preserving, for example, the writings of these SS soldiers from the Netherlands, you know, which would otherwise probably be lost to history. Indeed. Well, I mean, that's just one of the things that they do. I mean, they have original content. They have reprints. They bring translations, bring things to life for the first time in English, children's books,
[00:53:02] and so much more, obviously new writings as well at antelopehillpublishing.com. Taylor, I want to wish you a belated happy Memorial Day as we head into June and the 4th of July. We'll talk to you again about, well, a few days before the 4th of July. But final word to you before the music plays. Antelopehillpublishing.com is where you need to go. Yeah, well, as always, thank you so much for having me on.
[00:53:30] It is always great to be on here and talk with you. And as always, I hope that the audience enjoys the conversation. And yeah, I would very much recommend these two books. They are two of our most recent books. Again, that's Il Duce Massimo, which is a collection of Mussolini's earliest speeches. And then Imperium of Thought, which is, as we've been talking about, this collection of writings by the Dutch SS. Both very historically interesting, very ideologically interesting.
[00:53:59] And you can find them at antelopehillpublishing.com. And keep an eye out because we'll have plenty more interesting stuff coming out through the rest of the year. So thank you, as always. Every month we'll have you on to talk about it. If not you, one of your contemporaries or authors there at AHP. Yeah, comrades, that's the word. Well, tonight is Quintessential TPC, live from Porto, Portugal, with a live report from the Remigration Summit in the first hour. Kevin McDonald, program man, stay par excellence.
[00:54:28] Also a member of the Antelope Hill team now with his third edition of the Culture of the Tique. But Kevin was on with us to talk about current issues and events and trends and headlines. And Antelope Hill Publishing getting you all saddled up for a summer of reading. Hey, listen, you used to have summer reading in school. We're giving it to you now. Antelopehillpublishing.com out of time. I'm going to talk to you next week. Good night, everybody.