Radio Show Hour 3 – 2026/04/25

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[00:00:28] I'm lined up in a row, another Southern Sunday's morning glow. The people all the people have begun, shaking hands with a man who grips the gospel gun. Wild and quiet prayer, the smell of dinner on the ground, fuels up the morning air.

[00:00:56] Ain't nothing sweeter than I almost hear my mama scream. Oh, another sacred Sunday in the South. Ladies and gentlemen, tonight the original plan was to have a three-hour closing to our annual Confederate History Month series,

[00:01:25] which we very much intended and planned and wanted to do in light of the DOJ's indictment against the SPLC, which everybody in our circle of friends is talking about and focused on right now. And we decided that the person that could handle both of those topics best of all in the last hour is going to be our present guest. Well, that's absolutely right. And I'd be committing a radio malpractice not to mention the indictment.

[00:01:51] But it is a luxury, Keith, as you said, to be able to welcome Dr. Michael Hill back to the show tonight. He is a retired university professor of history. He's the author of two books. Yeah, he's the professor you wanted to have. The author of two books on Celtic warfare. He is the president of the Southern Nationalist League, formerly known as the League of the South.

[00:02:13] And he is the perfect guest to be a hybrid tonight, to segue in from our coverage that we've been having so far this evening with Jason Kessler, Glenn Allen, Sam Dixon, Augustus Invictus, and Patrick Martin into our Confederate History Month closing coverage. Because, well, he is probably, as someone mentioned previously tonight, the foremost Southern nationalist in our lifetimes. And he was also at Charlottesville.

[00:02:41] He was a member of the Defendant Corps for the Civil Trial. And he's strong as Garrett Snuff, folks. I tell you, if you want to know what the extreme view is for the pro-white advocacy take on things, call Dr. Hill. Well, let's go with it, Michael. Well, that's a long introduction. And tonight we're short on time.

[00:03:04] But let's have you first weigh in on the DOJ's case against the SPLC before you put the finishing touches on our Confederate History Month series this year. All right. Well, obviously I was surprised to hear this. I don't want to get my hopes up too much about it that they're going to take the SPLC down. But if there's any group out there that deserves to be taken down, it's them. They're, as the allegations in this indictment goes, they are a bunch of criminals.

[00:03:33] So we'll see what happens with that. But, you know, as I said, I'm really not as surprised about that or as concerned about that as I am the response to it on the, what you might call the normal right, the conservative right, that's kind of what has, well, it doesn't have me scratching my head. I'm not surprised at it.

[00:03:59] But I think it's really something that we need to not let go because, you know, there's an old saying that the left has no, excuse me, no enemies, excuse me, no enemies to the far left. But we can't say that about the right. The right, the respectable middle right never, never owns up to the fact that we exist.

[00:04:25] And if we do exist, it's because we're just a bunch of Nazis that need to be shoved all out the door. And that's why they could not defend us at Charlottesville. And now what they're saying is, well, no wonder we didn't defend them at Charlottesville. This was a Southern Poverty Law Center putting this thing on to start with, which is complete BS, you know. And y'all know that, and we all know that. We've been talking about it all night. Yeah, I was there.

[00:04:54] I was there at the head of the largest organization to participate in the United, the right rally. No one paid any of us to be there. We went and paid our own way. We had our own tactical and operational plans and went there to defend our Southern heritage and culture. We were the real thing. And for them to say, oh, you were all bought off and paid off by the Southern Poverty Law Center,

[00:05:20] what they're saying is there can be no natural organic outpouring on the right, the hard right, to defend the civilization of white people. And that's what we were doing at Charlottesville. Well, you know, you talked about an old saying. There's another old saying that this particular lawsuit brings to my mind, which is when all is said and done, more will be said than done. Let me ask you this.

[00:05:45] We had talked about this in the off mic before. Tell us about the Middle District of Alabama. That's the venue, the federal court venue for this case. And it's being heard by a judge with the last name of Marks. I guess it's Groucho's granddaughter. Tell us about this. All right. Keith has been asking this of all of the – you know, he's been mentioning this throughout the night. But you are actually from Alabama, so you'll have an informed opinion.

[00:06:13] What is the makeup of this particular jurisdiction? Well, it's most everything in Alabama outside of some leftist enclaves like Birmingham and Montgomery and parts of Mobile. It's going to be really conservative. I think that this would be much better, for example, than going into Charlottesville and having to try a case there.

[00:06:38] I think in Alabama here, particularly with the – you know, if this is a jury trial and it's not settled out of court, I think there's a good chance of getting a conviction here against the Southern Poverty Law Center. They are not loved in Alabama. I can tell you that. See, now that's an interesting – I'm glad to hear that from you. What do you know, if anything, about this Judge Marks? Well, this is an interesting thing that you just said. So you don't know her, but this is a Trump appointee.

[00:07:06] I believe she was appointed in 2018. But, you know, Michael, it's interesting because we have had about a 50-50 split between our contributors tonight who agree on everything philosophically and ideologically and politically and culturally and racially. But it's certainly been a split on whether or not the SPLC is going to face some harsh punishment for this. But you believe, as an Alabamian, that they might. If it goes to the jury.

[00:07:36] Yeah, I think it's possible if it goes to the jury for them to receive convictions on these charges. But if it's a deal that – These charges are cupcake charges, really. You know, they're the type of things that were – Yeah, they really are. Yeah, these are cupcake charges. And it seems they devised back in the 60s as a way to prosecute and get prosecutions sticking against the Ku Klux Klan.

[00:08:03] I think it's really karma that it's now being used against the Southern Poverty Law Center. Yeah, it is. You know, I've seen these jokers get off too many times before. I will be very happy, but I'm somewhat surprised if they bring the hammer down on them. But I sure as hell hope that they do because, well, you know, these people are anything but our friends.

[00:08:31] Well, they will open Pandora's box if they start naming these instigators, F1 and F37. A lot of people are thinking that it will get plead out. Before then, that very well may be the case. But you're saying, Michael, as an Alabamian, if it goes to a jury trial, the SBOC is not necessarily beloved throughout the great state of Alabama.

[00:08:54] The Western Middle District of Alabama, which is where this case is set. That's where the jury pool will come from. Right, exactly. And that's rural. That's a rural area. I think there's a good chance if it goes to a jury trial, they'll get some conditions out of it. I just hope it goes there. But I've had my hopes up before about some of these things happening, and they never have. Haven't we all?

[00:09:24] Yeah, I'll be kind of wary of getting my hopes up too high about this. Well, I've got to ask you about this, Michael, and we'll continue this for just very briefly into the next segment. And then we really need to transition into a closing on Confederate History Month. I mean, this is just such a big part of our identity in our annual program calendar, March Around the World in March, Confederate History Month in April. But with this SBOC bombshell dropping a couple of days ago, we had to dedicate tonight's show to it.

[00:09:53] So we will transition into that honoring of the South, as we always do with you every April. You've been such a standard bearer of this show, and we will get to that. But again, in looking at this, looking at the case, looking at the media reaction, the so-called conservative reaction, with just seconds to go this segment, what are you thinking about?

[00:10:18] Well, I do believe it's an attempt by the mainstream MAGA conservatives to distance themselves from the people on the hard right at Charlottesville. And this is a perfect way for them to do that. But they're kind of cutting their own throats because they're saying that there can be no organic uprising, if you will, of white people acting in white interest.

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[00:13:45] We dedicate that song to you. And that actually comes from TPC listener Lisa, who requested it. We get more song requests from the audience during April than any other month by far. Lisa wanted that one to be played. And I thought it was fitting. I said, Lisa, we'll play it when Michael's on the show. And that is tonight. And you had written an article about that, Why My Heart is in Dixie. You are Alabama born and bred, Southerner to the core.

[00:14:13] Well, I remember all those old license plates growing up. It said, if your heart's not in Dixie, get your blank out. Right? Yeah, I remember those too. Well, Michael, I want to say one more thing before we transition into the heart of that particular song. And that is Southern heritage and Confederate history and all of the things that make this month so special for the TPC listening audience. But I just got to say to you, wrapping up, we've been talking all night about SPLC and the DOJ indictments.

[00:14:42] I got to say again, and I've said it before. We listened, or I listened at least, to just about every minute of the Charlottesville civil trial. There was a number that the media could call in on and listen. And I guess anybody else who had the number could do the same. But I listened to that trial all the way through. And I'm not saying I didn't miss a little bit here and there. But I listened to most of it.

[00:15:05] And I heard your testimony when you were in the dock, when you were being grilled by these Jews. I listened to you, and they tried to embarrass you. They tried to bring up the most inflammatory things you had ever said or ever done. And as they did with everybody who was on trial. And I listened to a lot of men apologize.

[00:15:30] I listened to a lot of men on that trial say, you know, I can't believe I ever thought that way. That's not who I am now. What you said at every turn was, yes, I said that. That is what I believed then, and that is what I believe now. And, you know, Michael, you've known me my whole life, basically. I've been in this my entire adult life.

[00:15:54] You inspired me to no end in your stand on trial with so much to lose. You didn't bend an inch. You are a man worthy of the leadership mantle. And I just want to bring that up because now it's come back. It's come back now here with this. James told me, basically, that you came off better than anyone else. I think so. I think so. I mean, you know, at least as well, if not better. I mean, there were other people that appointed themselves well.

[00:16:23] But the way you responded and answered every question was just so resolute. And we actually, you testified, I believe, on a Friday. We had you on the show the very next night on a Saturday, which is, of course, our live broadcast time. I just want to thank you again for that stand and just to let people know that there are men like that that exist. And we've got one on the show tonight as we're wrapping up our coverage of, you know, this indictment and transitioning into Confederate History Month. Do you want to respond to that?

[00:16:51] Well, James, I appreciate y'all's kind words about that. But to tell you the truth, before I went out to get in the dock there, I got down on my knees back in the room where my lawyer and I had been conferring. And I asked God to give me the words, give me the words to say and the courage to say them. So I give the credit to him. I mean, he's told us, you know, that if we are testifying to the truth, which I tried to do,

[00:17:20] he will give us the words to say and the courage to say them. So he kept his promise. So I can't take too much credit for it, gentlemen. But thank you anyway for the kind words. I appreciate that. Well, you're being a little bit too modest there because I have seen a lot of men wilt under the pressure. You know, throughout my career, I mean, we've done the best we could. I've never been in the dock like you were. I would like to think that I would appoint myself as you did.

[00:17:50] You would. But you've walked through. Well, I appreciate you saying that. I believe I would. But until you've walked through that crucible, you don't know. And I can say it's like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego going through the fiery furnace. We've been through a lot in media. It wasn't quite that serious. We've been through a lot in media. We've appointed ourselves well at every turn. But you were there on a different level. But anyway, I just want to say that as we transition. Now, let's talk about this.

[00:18:21] Well, let me say this. I did smell the brimstone when that Jewel Lawyer got close. Well, I can tell you. It set an example. I wish everybody could have heard it. I mean, we can recount it here as well as we can. But I heard it with my own ears. And I was pumping my fist. And it was just something to behold. And it was strong as Garrett Snow.

[00:18:45] Well, you know, Michael, going back to Confederate History Month, you know, we talk about your transcending time and space. He says, my ancestor was with your ancestor at the Battle of Shiloh. We know that we're there together. Absolutely. And so many decades later, you and I found each other. And here we are now, the night having this conversation, having worked together for so many years. Your heart is in Dixie, as is mine. And God is good.

[00:19:15] Amen. We can't, you know, one thing that I lament during our Confederate History Month coverage is that we cannot recap everything. I said this throughout the series this month. You know, we've done this. We've been on the air now for 22 years. Wow. And we've done this for 22 years. You cannot recount every hero, every story, every guest, every moment that we've covered throughout all of these Confederate History Month series is past.

[00:19:45] And so you just can't do that. All we can do is direct people to the broadcast archives and say, you know, go digging because it's all there. So every month I want to cram it all back in again for first-time listeners or people new to the show. We can't do that. But what I want to say with you right now is you've given us so many memories throughout these series because you've been such a mainstay with them.

[00:20:08] And one thing is the first time you went back to Europe, the first time you went back to Scotland, how it stirred your ancestral memory. You've written books about how our ancestors in the American South fought with the very exact same tactics as their Scottish forebears fought so many centuries prior. Do you want to talk about that just for a very quick minute? Yeah, absolutely.

[00:20:39] I was fortunate enough to study under Grady McQuinney and Forrest MacDonald when they were working on what they call their Celtic thesis. And they wanted me to write my dissertation, which turned out to be my first book, on what preceded the South, Southern way of warfare back in the old country. So that's how I kind of got into this. But I had a great time researching it and going over there. And as you said, it was like going home.

[00:21:09] It really was. But, you know, Southern men made great fighters. Sometimes they kind of lost their discipline a little bit and rushed into the fray as individuals. And that, obviously, depending on the weaponry that the defense has, can be very bloody. And the South lost a lot of men because, as Grady McQuinney titled his book, Attack and Die. And that's what a lot of our people did.

[00:21:39] And rifled weapons on the battlefield made an attack like that, in some cases almost suicidal. But that's the way our people have always fought, James. And it's the way we've done everything. I mean, we don't do anything half measure. I think we take the Bible seriously when God tells us not to be lukewarm about anything, be either hot or cold. And Southerners have always been hot when it comes to fighting like this.

[00:22:08] And sometimes it's been to our advantage, and sometimes it's been to our disadvantage. But you can never, never, ever accuse our people of being lukewarm. You can never accuse them of being cowards. They always are in the middle of the fight, win or lose. And I just love that about our people. You have done your ancestor proud. Let me tell you that. As I've always strived to do, I can tell you that I know you have.

[00:22:38] There in the dock when there was so much to lose. When there was so much to lose. And I just got to say this. I mean, we've had – there was so much I wanted to cover with you tonight, Michael, that we weren't able to do because of the circumstances that have been thrust upon us with this indictment. We had to cover it. But I was with you at the founding meeting of the Southern Nationalist League in London, Tennessee, the week after Trump was reelected.

[00:23:08] Right. Right. And we talked about that, and we talked about a lot of things. So many people are emailing and texting me right now that there has been a shooting at Trump right now at a White House Correspondents' Dinner. Yeah. I saw that right before I came on. So it looks like that has been legitimized and that there has been another attempt at Trump's life. I talked to you about that that night. You had voted for Trump. I had voted for Trump.

[00:23:37] We've talked about the regional versus global White Brotherhood conversation about how we need to maintain our unique differences as nations. Exactly. Understanding that we are one White Brotherhood. But you and I had both voted for Trump as Southern nationalists. We voted for Trump at least a couple of times. We voted for him at the most recent time anyway. Do you want to say anything about that in light of this most recent development with a couple of seconds remaining this segment? Well, yeah.

[00:24:07] I voted for Trump three times, 16, 20, and 24. So did I. Yeah, I did too. I've been somewhat disappointed, particularly right now, especially about the war on behalf of Israel, which is, I think, going to kick back off very soon. It's going to be even more brutal this time. I don't know.

[00:24:28] I'm disappointed, but I said about that same time you were talking about, Mark and I were talking, Mark Tommy, and we both said that Trump might end up being an accelerationist president because he either couldn't or wouldn't make good on his promises. Hey, let's talk about that, how that applies to Southern nationalism. How would you like to help this program reach more people and earn silver at the same time?

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[00:29:00] I've met a lot of great people throughout TPC's 20-year run, and one of the very first was Michael Gaddy. He was down on the border with the Minutemen Project back in those days, calling into the studio from a payphone with live reports. He was fighting to preserve our nation then, and he still is. Let me ask you something. Does true history matter to you? Would you like to know authentic history or what is taught in government schools and universities? The choice is yours.

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[00:29:49] Rolling down backwoods, Tennessee byway. One arm on. Holding my lover with the other. A sweet, soft, southern thrill. Worked hard all week. Got a little jingle.

[00:30:15] On a Tennessee Saturday night. Couldn't feel better. I'm together. With my Dixieland tonight. Spend my dollar. Park in a hot rut tight.

[00:30:41] So much more to cover tonight with Dr. Michael Hill, formerly of the League of the South, now with the Southern Nationalist League.

[00:31:06] Michael, we have had a question come in during the last break, no less. The questioner asks, where can I send a $1,000 contribution to Dr. Michael Hill? Right here, James. All right. All right, y'all. Listen closely now. The Southern Nationalist League. Spelled just like it sounds. P.O. Box 730.

[00:31:36] Killing. K-I-L-L-E-N. Alabama. 3-5-6-4-5. And the check should be made out, not to me, but to the Southern Nationalist League. We want to use this for our organization, if that's okay with the donor. I'm sure it will be, but since this is radio, not television, give it to them one more time. Okay. The Southern Nationalist League. P.O. Box 730. Killing.

[00:32:06] Alabama. K-I-L-L-E-N. Alabama. 3-5-6-4-5. Well, there you go for our questioner. And anyone else who may be interested, I would encourage you to do just that. Now, Michael, so much more to cover. We had intended an entirely different hour. I appreciate you being a hybrid and talking with us about the SPLC indictment along with closing out our Confederate History Month series this month.

[00:32:35] We were talking about the regional versus global White Brotherhood conversation, maintaining our regional differences. I've talked with other guests this month. Last month during our march around the world, we had Ruben Caleb on from Estonia, who was talking about how much different the Russians are. You know, from here, our perspective in the South, what's the difference between an Estonian and a Russian? You know, 60 miles? But he laid the case out perfectly.

[00:33:02] I am sure other people in the white Western world would look at, you know, what's the difference between a Yankee and a Southerner? How do we reconcile that in the modern age where birth rates dictate we don't have the luxury of Brothers Wars anymore? And just how tribal should we get? Or do we need to broaden the net? Or do we need to tighten it up? Go quickly on that one.

[00:33:30] Well, here's how I look at it. My Southerners are my immediate family. My mama, my daddy, my brothers, my sisters, other white folks in different parts of the world, including outside the South and on this continent, they're my extended family. You know, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles, you know, people that are not part of my immediate family. That doesn't mean I don't love them.

[00:33:56] It doesn't mean that I don't want to do what's best for them and all and work with them. But I've got to put my main focus and energy on my immediate family. And we have our differences as white folks, you know. We don't want to be just one mass, white mass. I mean, we want to have our differences because they're beautiful. They're absolutely beautiful differences. So I think we can work together with other whites, different places.

[00:34:25] But, hey, we're Southerners, and that is the most important thing for us. So that's kind of my take on it. Let me ask you this. Secession. I think as things go on, you know, as things develop, I'm more and more convinced with every passing day that the only road to true peace is going to be secession in the United States. Yeah.

[00:34:54] And if you think that, tell us how that should proceed. Well, I think it's going to have, first of all, I think a large percentage, not necessarily a majority, but a good percentage of the Southern people are going to have to be rabid secessionists. And I think you're right. I think that is coming because I don't think that there is anything. The American empire is on the verge of destruction. I mean, almost literal destruction.

[00:35:20] We will not be an empire any longer after this war in the Middle East is over. And where do we go from there? D.C. cannot rule. It's already proven that. But Southerners, you know, as you scratch that surface, that American surface, and very, very close to the surface is that Southerness. And I think we can bring that out of people if we work, if we advocate, if we do all the things we need to do.

[00:35:48] We can bring that attitude that, you know, we're different and we deserve to govern ourselves. We can bring that out in our people. And when that happens, these things will start unfolding in a big hurry. The original game plan tonight was far different than what we executed. And I've had a lot of longtime listeners say tonight that, well, one longtime listener, but a lot of people saying this is the best show they've ever heard. We do.

[00:36:18] And, you know, we're bringing in, we're calling in our resources. People who have battled the SPLC, it was an important show. We had to do it tonight. I mean, time dictated that. But what we had planned tonight was to close our Confederate History Month series, our annual special programming during the month of April with, in a grand way. And we're going to play a little bit of our interview with George Wallace Jr., the son of the iconic governor.

[00:36:48] And in the end of that interview, he said that if America is going to be saved, it's going to be the southern people who save it. And it was a great interview all the way through. But there was something about the way he closed it that was just very remarkable and worthy of our attention tonight. We don't have that clip queued up because, you know, we redid the show as circumstances dictated.

[00:37:10] But, Michael, you know, 1865 was our last chance on this continent, at least to this point. Losing that war ruined the country. And then we compare now, you know, white traders versus, you know, the other, you know, blacks and Jews or whatever.

[00:37:30] But, you know, if a white man breaks into my home, if he tries to, you know, steal or, you know, rape my family, as the union did, you know, they're dead. You know, they're dead to me. You know, so we need to reconcile all of that, you know, this whole brotherhood thing. I mean, yes, it is true. It is good. We need to close ranks at this late date in Western civilization.

[00:37:56] But while maintaining what makes us different, I mean, there is something so special about going to these picturesque communities in Germany that doesn't exist anywhere else. There are parts of the American South that don't exist anywhere else. We have to maintain that. But on the other hand, just think about what goes on in Minneapolis, in New York City, in California. I feel no kinship whatsoever to those people. All right.

[00:38:23] Reconcile all of that before we get to a person that has never missed a Confederate History Month series, as you have not. Courtney from Alabama. Go, Michael. Well, listen, I agree with you, fellas. I agree with Courtney. I know what Courtney thinks about this, too. Let me tell you something, too, James. A white man breaks into my house like that, I'll shoot him as dead as a blackest nigger. That's right. That's what I wanted to hear.

[00:38:52] That's what I believe. Well, you know, another thing I believe in, too. If I've got a weapon and I've got one bullet left and I've got an enemy and a traitor in front of me, the traitor's getting the bullet. That's damn right. Hey, here, here. I will tell you this. I have said this before, and I don't mind saying it again live on the air. I have much more disdain.

[00:39:21] Well, I said it even earlier tonight. I have more disdain for the conservative incorporated talking head than I do for Morris Dees. So certainly I can tell you, Morris Dees, by the way, got his start as a staffer for George Wallace. And he was defending Klansman before he found out there was more money on the other side. I mean, that's an aside, but that's all true. That's Jew money. Morris Siegelman Dees.

[00:39:49] He was a Gentile, but he was named after a Jew in this middle name. That's right. We know a lot about the SBLC. After all these years, they've been opposing it. They've been a fixture. Hey, I'm so proud. It was 25 years ago in 2001 when they deemed me a hater. And I just have loved that ever since. Hey, well, you know. You and James both. I begged for it.

[00:40:13] I still remember when I got to do that press conference before NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, all of those things back in the mid-2000s. And offered my response to the SBLC denunciation, which was supposed to be this whitewim shuffle when I said, I've been waiting for this day. You know, the day you have not arrived until you have been. Validation. You have been denounced by this group of communists and civil rights hustlers. But, yeah, listen. It is true.

[00:40:42] It is true that – and we will take this break so we can get Courtney on in the last segment. But it is true that these people are more contemptuous than any black Jew I've ever met. We'll be right back. Courtney from Alabama and Michael Hill, two Alabamians closing it out next. God tells us in Hebrews 10, 25 that we should gather together to worship him. This isn't a request. It is a command. Going to church isn't an option. It is your Christian duty.

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[00:44:06] This radio show was October 26, 2004. Here we are now on April the 25th, 2026, almost 22 years later. And for that entire time, we have had 50,000 watts of power behind us here on the AM radio airwaves. And that's not including the... That's the most you can have in America, isn't it? That's exactly right.

[00:44:32] That's not including the reach of the Liberty News Radio Network and online and the affiliates and the broadcast archives. It has been an honor and it still remains an honor all these years to do this Confederate History Month series. We intended to do it for a full three hours tonight, but I am so glad we were able to end it tonight with Dr. Michael Hill and Courtney from Alabama, who's always been a mainstay as well.

[00:45:02] Courtney, welcome back to the show. Tell us why you're here tonight and what you and Michael will be talking about in doing this, our final segment during Confederate History Month 2026. Okay. Okay. Hey, thank you for having me on. After I introduce the topic, do you want me to just get right into it? You go anywhere you want to go. Okay. Thank you. And then, of course, Mr. Michael Hill will respond after that.

[00:45:31] So, and I'm very interested, as usual, to see what he has to say. But thanks for having me on. This is always a pleasure of mine. And so, basically, I'm trying. It's been a rough year, but I'm trying to write a good article that I've been meaning to write for a long time now for Michael Hill's website. A good article for it. It's something that's been a concern of mine for a long time.

[00:46:00] I've voiced my opinion on here about it many times. And that's the preservation of the Southern people. Because I do think it's something we need to take seriously. I think it's under threat more than ever. And before, and I'm just going to go through, like, three main points from it. And, of course, you know, there's going to be more when the article comes out.

[00:46:26] But one of the things is, and this has been mentioned before many times on here, but it can be repeated over and over again because it's true. And it's important is, you know, we need to be reminded of where we came from as Southern people. We're descended. We're unique because we're like the last region of the country where we're largely descended from the founding stock. And I think that is something that we should be proud of.

[00:46:54] I don't know of any other country in the world that disrespects its founding stock as much as America. Now, I know that every white country in the world is dealing with multiculturalism outside of Eastern Europe. But America seems to be unique in that not only are we dealing with multiculturalism, but it's like the founding stock gets treated like we don't exist anymore. We're not talked about.

[00:47:19] We keep getting fed this myth that everybody here is an immigrant. We're greatly undercounted on censuses. When the truth of the matter is, we're still the largest group in this country based on all the research I've done. And I even hear this myth repeated in our circle that we're all a bunch of European mutts. And that's really not true at all because a lot of us are not.

[00:47:46] And so to move forward as a Southern people, we need to stand firm on where we came from and we need to be proud of it. There's no there's no reason to be ashamed of being descended from the founding stock. I think we should be the proudest people in the country because of that. Another thing is that we shouldn't be ashamed to talk about how we're different and better than other white people.

[00:48:09] You know, I wrote that article about the election, the last election and how different groups of white people voted around the country. And one one you know, one of the main talk, one of the main things to take away from that article, whether or not Trump has been a disappointment or not. You know, whether or not Southerners voted the right way or not. You know, obviously Southerners voted for Trump higher than any other region of the country, a higher percentage.

[00:48:36] And whether he's proven to be a disappointment or not isn't the point. One of the main points is that article has proven the research I did with Brad Griffin. It proves that white out of all white groups in the country, Southern white women voted the most loyally to their men where there was almost not even a difference. Like they almost voted identical with Southern men. And I think that's a strength we have down here.

[00:49:06] We should be bragging about stuff like that. And that's just one of many things that sets us apart from the rest of the country. Our women are loyal in how they vote down here. Another thing, you know, and this is the main idea of my article, is the South cannot go on without it being mostly populated by ethnic Southerners. And we all know what an ethnic Southerner is. And, of course, you know, I've said this many times.

[00:49:33] There's nothing wrong with small numbers of people coming here, like white South Africans, people who are being persecuted, people from other parts of the country and worldwide, people who think like us and truly love the South. Small numbers of people. But what's going on right now is a massive invasion of transplants. We are being transformed like never before.

[00:49:58] And even the transplants who move down here don't like living in the areas with other transplants. And I have evidence for this because they're starting to leave places like North Carolina and Florida. And they're moving into places like Alabama, our state. And, you know, and I don't want Alabama to turn into North Carolina with the transplant problem. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh. I don't want that.

[00:50:25] The only way we can continue as a Southern people is, I mean, the only way the South can continue as a cultural region is if it's inhabited by ethnic Southerners. And we can't be ashamed of saying that. We have to at least mostly, you know, we have to make up most of the inhabitants down here at least. We can't let other people replace it and expect our culture to continue. And if people move here because they like the South, they should be supporting this message and this idea. It should not be expensive.

[00:50:57] So, anyways, I'm going to hand it over to you. I don't want to run out of time for you. Well, Courtney, that was very well said, and I agree with you. Our people are largely from the British Isles, and that is what distinguishes us from the other white enclaves, I guess you might say, in the United States. They are what our ancestors would have called ethnics.

[00:51:27] You know, they came from Southern Europe, Central Europe, Eastern Europe. Now, I'm not saying that all Southerners came from the British Isles because we had smatterings of Germans and French and Scandinavians. But largely speaking, we are a transplanted British Isles culture and people. And that is one thing that has made the South unique, and we must keep it that way.

[00:51:55] The South will not be the South if it's populated by other white people who are not Southerners. And I don't want to see that. And I know you don't, and I don't think most Southerners want to see that either in their heart of hearts if they would just admit it. Well, the one thing that we need to do, Courtney, is something I suggested earlier.

[00:52:15] And that is scratch that surface and reveal that true Southerner underneath the so-called Americans that we've got living down here in Dixie today. We need to get our people to think, I'm not an American first. I'm an American in that I was born and live on the North American continent. I am an Alabamian, a Tennessean, a Mississippian, a Georgian first. I am a Southerner.

[00:52:44] These are all my brothers and sisters who live down here in different states. But we are all one big family. And if we do that, we could be unstoppable because we are the biggest single interest group, I think, in the country. We just need to start acting like it, organize, get together, and push our interests as Southerners. And we can come out of this thing doing pretty well, I believe.

[00:53:13] I think that's well said. James, do you want me to say anything else, or do you want to take over, or do you want me to have to say more? It's been a wild night tonight. I mean, this whole show tonight, we intended to do a three-hour closing on the Confederate History Month series. It's been impromptu. It's been impromptu. It's been impromptu with the SPLC and the DOJ. Now this Trump attempted assassination tonight. I'm catching up in it in real time. I've seen the footage now.

[00:53:41] I mean, it seems as though there was a live shooter in the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Part of the press corps? Who knows? I mean, this is all happening live while we're on the air tonight. I mean, Michael, there's the music. Courtney, Michael, Keith, you can't even begin to arrest all of this at once. We're doing a live radio program, but we do the best we can here. But listen, hey, listen, happy Confederate History Month to everyone.

[00:54:09] Courtney, couldn't have done it without you. Michael Hill, thank you for closing it and for being a great segue between the Unite the Right and Charlottesville, the DOJ, and the SPLC. We've all been so maligned and so targeted for so many years. Keith Alexander, your insights. Glenn Allen, Jason Kessler, Augustus Invictus, Patrick Martin, Sam Dixon, everybody who's been on tonight. What a show. That is a great lineup. The best show. Well, that is a great lineup.

[00:54:38] I've been around long enough to meet some people. But people are saying this is the best show we've ever done. Good night, God bless y'all. Happy Confederate History Month.