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[00:00:31] Well, I know I've done a good show. When my dad texts me, James, absolutely a great interview. That young man was great. So that was Christian Secure in the last time. If my dad likes the show, I know I've done a good job. And so thank you, Dad, for tuning in. And we're with friends of ours and friends of yours and friends that have supported your son for all the way here tonight.
[00:00:57] And what a night. What a night. I mean, it's just a really good night. The first show after Trump reassumes office. Now, I know, I know you can't please all the people all the time. And 100 percent of the people want to agree with you on everything. But I think I think, you know, we're probably on the right path here. I think we're closer to right than wrong, at least.
[00:01:21] And, you know, for whatever cause there is for trepidation, there are a lot of causes this week for exuberance. And that's what we're expressing tonight. Now, if it changes next week, we'll be sure to convey that as well. Seven days from now. But we're back with Brad Griffin. So, Brad, you were with us the first hour. You're going to close the show as well. You open the show. You close the show. So we had a Christian Secor. What a great guest in his testimony.
[00:01:46] First time ever to be interviewed and to have that wherewithal and presence of mind to convey the message to the ability that he did, which was fantastic. Taylor Young, Antelope Hill. Great show. This is it is rising and has met and exceeded my vision tonight.
[00:02:05] All right. So where do we begin now as we close the show, as we began it by talking about the things that have happened since Trump was sworn back in? Where do you want to begin this hour's conversation? And during this hour, we will have also make sure that Mike buttons pushed up. I don't think it's up. Yeah, there. Now you're up. We're going to have Kyle. We're going to have Keith. We're going to have maybe Linda. Well, I'd love to have your wife. I haven't even seen her. She's watching. She's putting the kids to bed.
[00:02:35] All right. Well, maybe. Well, we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, after hearing that, I mean, I think that that alone was worth it. I mean, we we've we've had a lot of speculation. Oh, Trump might lock up people on our side. But he started he started by doing the opposite. You can have those concerns and those concerns are not entirely. You know, listen, you always need to be concerned about the worst case scenario. But right now we have no reason to believe that that's coming. Let's just judge the week that was behind us. It was it was great.
[00:03:02] In fact, like since since I was off there, I noticed that he's doing what's happened in the last hour. You've been monitoring the news. Yeah. Real time. We've been busy. Tom Tom Holman apparently is swept into Los Angeles and is arresting a bunch of people. Speaking of an operation and go ahead. Well, speaking of Los Angeles, Trump went to North Carolina first. Yeah. Did he not? Yeah. Even though the Los Angeles natural disaster is more recent. He went to North Carolina first. Yes. He made a point of that.
[00:03:32] That was that was great. And then he went to when I was on the way up here last night, I saw him. He was he was he was he was going off on the mayor of Los Angeles. You know, you were in Africa while the city burned down. And he said he said, we're the party of common sense. We like water. And it was just Trump. He even said even the smelt you want to save. Yeah. Of all the people. They need water, too. You want to even give it to them. I mean, you know, again, is this a different this is the question.
[00:04:01] This is the million dollar question. Is this a different Trump? You know, so when he ran the first time, you know, we all I've said this a million times. I know it's repetitive. We all cast our hopes and dreams upon this blank canvas. And during the campaign, it was wonderful. And then, you know, but there was a lot of circumstances as to why he didn't succeed the first time that have been removed.
[00:04:26] And in terms of his political opposition, the media is not nearly as venerable as it was back then. Public opinion. All of it. And so there's a lot of reasons that the first administration didn't turn out the way we would want. But is this a different Trump? Is it a different Trump? Or are we are we being fooled in ways that even we can't see tonight? I don't think we're being fooled.
[00:04:52] I think he's I mean, he's been in exile in Mar-a-Lago like Napoleon for four years. There was an he did an interview with Hannity the other night and Hannity had him on. And he asked me, he's like, this is in twenty twenty one. And Hannity asked me, he's like, Trump told him, like, you know, maybe it'd be better off in the end if I came back after four years. And boy, was that the understatement of the century. Right.
[00:05:16] After after the after Biden's disaster, you know, put everything in a new context. And of course, after Trump sets this standard, you have offshoots of it, like what we talked about in Mississippi. Mississippi is paying bounty hunters to round up illegal aliens like. Like, yeah, but it's well, it was under proposal. It could be coming like like that in Florida. They send in, you know, the swamp raiders into the Everglades to get these Burmese pythons, you know, and they pay for the pound.
[00:05:46] It's sort of like that in Mississippi. But but here you have Representative Mike Collins. Brad, you put this up at OccidentalDiscent.com. Listen to this. Racism against white Americans is no longer sanctioned by the federal government in Donald Trump's America. So this is, I mean, a sitting a sitting congressman. And this is the language you know we're getting. And that is all because of Trump for real or imagined reasons. And perception is the ultimate reality. The other side believes we have elected Hitler. And again, perception is the ultimate reality.
[00:06:16] And now you've got people with balls enough to say this. You would have never heard that. Yes. I mean, I've been banging this drum for a number of years now. Like you would never hear throughout the whole first Trump term. You never really heard the word white. It really wasn't until 2021, the year he left, that that began to began to creep into the conversation. And we covered all those polls showing that the Republican base was radicalizing.
[00:06:41] And now here you are four years later and you have language like that. And it's clearly snowballing, I think. And it's definitely changing. All right. Tell me if you agree with this. Yeah. This is an anonymous commenter on a random thread that I found at CounterCurrents this week. So Greg Johnson basically posted a statement.
[00:07:10] It wasn't even an article. It was just like, tell me what you think of Trump's first week. And there was a post, a reply from one of his commenters that I think so captured my own take that I copy and pasted it into my notes tonight for the show. And I'd like to get you, Brad, to respond to this. And we'll bring Keith back into the conversation. So this is what it read.
[00:07:38] I don't even want to reference the unsavory, obligatory pandering parts of his inauguration speech. Everybody knows what they were because the rest of it was so satisfying to hear and inspiring, honestly. I'm not going to pretend like I wasn't psyched up and inspired by easily the bulk of it. And then there were the executive orders. J-6ers released, the 14th Amendment, Southern Border, a national emergency, the Mexican cartel, a terrorist agency, et cetera.
[00:08:07] How can you not respond to that? A rhetorical question. The answer is sadly obvious because he isn't perfect. Anyone focusing on the flaws right now rather than the implication that the nation is more open to our ideas now than it has been in decades before is missing the picture in a big way.
[00:08:27] If you're moping around like Eeyore or thinking that an all-or-nothing baby because Trump isn't naming the Jew, like Jason Kessler commented about on X, recalibrate yourself and figure it out. I wish I could find the video again, and if someone tells me it's fake, I'd be crestfallen.
[00:08:50] But assuming it's not, how can one be anything but amped up when a 12-year-old white boy in a MAGA hat and suit and tie, when asked what he'd say to illegal aliens, replies that he'd tell them, and I quote, get out of my country, you disgusting pieces of shit, end quote. No insufferable school marms, please, just for this week. It's not time for that, and it's not too much to ask.
[00:09:18] It's a moment to briefly but effusively celebrate a pretty significant victory in the war that we have thus far been losing. How about that comment, Brad? That's a great comment. You know, me and you, we've been active through the first quarter of the 21st century, and I'm definitely looking forward to the second quarter. I think we're off to a lot better start than we were. Well, you've talked about this, though, but you have talked about this, my friend, forever.
[00:09:43] I mean, for years, years even before Trump, that the pendulum of history doesn't move in a straight line, that there are these pockets of, how do you put it? I mean, these pockets that need to be alleviated, these reservoirs of discontent, and that it happens almost cyclically throughout history. Talk about that.
[00:10:08] I really do believe that there are patterns to history and that we have been at the end of something that's been building. Really, since the end of the – I mean, I would date the beginning of our era to World War II, and I'm wondering if, like, we finally, like, move past that. It feels like the post-war era is – oh, that's very premature for me to say, but it really does feel like we're, like, really starting to move beyond that into something new.
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[00:13:12] Ladies and gentlemen, James, or Elvis, as we call him around here, has left the building temporarily and the junior varsity is on the field. So I wanted to take this opportunity to talk with Brad about this past week. You know, I'm older, probably twice as old as you, okay? Mm-hmm. But basically, during my entire lifetime, the ride has been back on its heels.
[00:13:42] We have, you know, starting really even before the Brown versus Board of Education decision, we've been fighting a defensive battle. We're trying to, you know, basically minimize damages. That's what the conservative movement has been. But now, it looks as if we have turned the corner on it. And basically, we're the ones inflicting the pain on our enemies. Now, I can tell you this.
[00:14:11] From my experience, every left-wing movement that we've suffered through since the end of World War II has been the product of Jewish power and influence, okay? We can never forget that. That's the source of all of our problems. If they were not here, we would not be suffering this way. But we have suffered, and we have, I think at this point, at least there's some reason to hope that we have prevailed.
[00:14:37] What do you see in the future for us as conservatives and white Gentiles here in America? Well, we were talking about history in the last segment, and the way I would frame it is we've really had, like, almost a century of a real liberal. The liberal establishment that dominated the 20th century goes back to FDR, and it has its, before it took power, has its roots before that in the 1920s.
[00:15:05] And that was on its way up, and you can, I guess you could draw it in a graph. You know, reaching its high watermark with LBJ would be like the, I would say, the peak. And then Nixon is when it starts to come down, and then you could say that conservatism in America grew stronger with Reagan.
[00:15:30] And, I mean, the liberal establishment has been so powerful for so long, but, like, this last month or two, it's felt like it's, do you feel like it's something, like, has vanished? Like, there's no activity amongst the Democrats. Like, liberals are on their backs. I haven't ever seen anything like it. Yeah, I have never heard them so lost for words, basically. Like, they have been, you know, they always blab on and carry on.
[00:15:59] But I think the real turning point recently was when they tried to make sexual perversity a civil right. Right. And that was a bridge too far for people all over the globe. And they're trying to inflict their perverted vision of how human beings ought to behave on not only Americans, but on people all over the globe. Yes, they've lost, I think, on the transgender issue. They've lost on immigration.
[00:16:28] They've lost on the woke DEI aspect of race, even though when people, the official idea is we'll go back to colorblindness and that. But, I mean, they've had some major, major setbacks. They overreached. And I think even on the liberal side, you see the people acknowledge that's the reason they lost, and that's the reason they're in trouble now. Well, you know, what has happened is that there's still a sacred cow out there, and that's the civil rights movement.
[00:16:55] They still want to believe that somehow the civil rights movement was righteous and holy and that just somehow, alas, the righteous left had gone astray. But we have people in this room that fought against the left in the civil rights movement. They've been here fighting this long. And it's time that everybody realizes that the civil rights movement was just like any other radical, egalitarian, left-wing movement.
[00:17:24] It was wrong from the very beginning. It was intended to basically poison the founding stock of America and to dispossess them. And everybody in this room right now is a member of the founding stock of America. I mean, one way to interpret Trump is that, you know, ever since FDR, you had two liberal parties. And even the conservatives were liberals.
[00:17:50] And then Trump came along and he hijacked the GOP. And he won a very, how would you say it, a partial victory in 2016 in that, like, he captured the White House, but he didn't control his own administration. He didn't control Congress. He didn't control. He thought it was like running his businesses. Basically, he just needed to find the right people to delegate stuff to. Yes. And he found out that the people that work in Washington are not like average employees.
[00:18:18] He spent his whole first term worried about whether he was going to be impeached by the Republican Senate. And several Republicans even voted to, you know, senators even voted to impeach him for over January 6th. But now it just seems like the liberal establishment, the liberal wing of the media is just a shell of its former self.
[00:18:40] Well, you know, George Wallace was the one who said that the difference between the Republican and the Democratic parties is the difference between Tweedledum and Tweedledee. That's right. And he said this back in the late 60s. And he fought and lost, just like so many other people did, because Jewish power and influence controlled the media. And the media is a message, okay? As Marshall McLuhan said, if you control the media, you will control people's perceptions of the truth.
[00:19:10] And I think that our day in the sun began when the advent of the Internet and when people started using it. You know, Al Gore said he invented the Internet, and if he did, we owe him a great vote of confidence and thanks for doing that, because that's when the worm began to turn, and we had access to people's minds, and we have convinced them that the conservative viewpoint is right.
[00:19:39] Now, the last thing we've got to do is convince them that every left-wing movement is equally pernicious, equally intended to dispossess us, and that the civil rights movement is just as bad as any of them. So hopefully we're on that path now, but we need to now strike back. Like when we're talking to Christian, you know, we shouldn't just let them get off and be relieved that they're no longer actively persecuting us.
[00:20:06] We need to turn the tables on them because we need to, you know, as General Forrest said, put the skier in them. We haven't talked so much about the revenge aspect of the revenge tour, and I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, that's right. I'm looking for the revenge tour, and I think it's going to be good. I think it's going to be great. But, see, we are so used to losing that now that we've won, we basically want to take a deep breath and celebrate,
[00:20:34] but we need to put the pressure on them. I mean, because these people, for example, Christian was a typical high-minded conservative, but they put him through hell. They put him through an Orwellian nightmare, a 1984 Orwellian nightmare, and it deserves at least a 1983 action.
[00:20:54] And what I was thinking would be really good is if a class action were brought on behalf of all of the January 6th victims, people that went to jail, and go against the Attorney General of the United States, the Department of Justice, the judges that were involved, and, I mean, just wear them out. Wear them out, totally. That's what needs to happen now, and I hope that Trump will be willing to do that.
[00:21:23] Joe Biden, he pardoned a lot of people on the way out, but he didn't pardon all of them. Right. And furthermore, you know, these people need to be harassed and harangued just like conservatives have been from basically day one. You know, we'll know that we've won when they're the ones who have to, you know, you can't rent a hotel room. That's right, yeah.
[00:21:49] Well, what we need to realize is that they're a vast minority of the American people, and if American people got the truth about what had happened in the past, for example, like the Civil Rights Movement, if they knew how white people in areas of the country that had large black populations suffered, you know, we could have a completely different turn of the paradigm.
[00:22:17] Speaking about how people knew, did you hear the news that the new CIA director, Ratcliffe, issued some report where it said that the conclusion now is that COVID was a lab leak manufactured virus. And you know all the people who got censored and fired. Yeah, yeah. And Trump said he would reinstate these military people with full back pay. But yeah, can you imagine? We've been lied to about that, you know. Next week, we've got next week.
[00:22:47] Who long do we have next week? I can't even remember we're so booked up. I know Mark Weber, I know Roger Devlin, and there's someone else. Pardon me if you're tuned in. I don't have the schedule in front of me. But we are booked up all three hours next week. Two weeks from tonight, we'll be back in Greenville, South Carolina, for a live audience show. And the whole show that night is just going to be getting the people's take.
[00:23:12] Not regular guests, not people who head organizations or sitting or former elected officials or any of the normal people. Yeah, that we feature on this program. It's just going to be the normal people, which is our people, which is exactly who we are. A lot of them have a higher opinion of Trump than we do. I can't wait to hear what they say. Because when you take it to the folks, then you really get to the pulse of how the people are feeling. They're the ones who really do this. That's exactly who matters. And who matters more than we, for sure.
[00:23:39] And I look forward to that show two weeks from tonight in South Carolina. Next week, boy, I wish I could remember the third one. He's a great one. But I didn't bring the schedule with me tonight. But anyway, no, no, no. That's the schedule for tonight, not next week. But the schedule for next week. I know Mark Weber. I know Roger Devlin. Oh, David Zutty, we already mentioned. Yeah, David Zutty is going to be on from the Homeland Institute. So David Zutty, then Mark Weber, then Roger Devlin next week. There's some great polls, I'm sure, to share. He's already got them.
[00:24:09] You follow David's polls? You are always following the polls. Yes, yes. I like to keep the polls on public opinion. I heard you and Courtney are working on a pretty interesting project. Oh, yes, yes. She's been looking into voting patterns and stuff. She's going to be sharing on that. And it's going to be white southern females versus white males in other parts of the country.
[00:24:37] She has actually got a pretty interesting... Shout out if you're listening, Courtney. Nobody else has put together what she's working on. It's going to be fascinating. We'll be right back for the last half hour of tonight's show. First show since Trump 2.0. Liberty Newswire. You're listening to Liberty News Radio. News this hour from townhall.com. I'm Jason Walker.
[00:25:04] President Trump today in Las Vegas, summarizing the highlights from a very busy first week in office. What the world witnessed this week is nothing less than a revolution of wealth creation for everyone and also common sense. It's about common sense. It really is. We're the party of common sense. When day one I directed every member of my cabinet to... And by the way, Pete Hegseth got approved.
[00:25:29] And Christine Noem confirmed today as the Homeland Security Secretary. The vote puts the South Dakota governor in charge of a sprawling agency essential to national security and President Trump's plans to clamp down on illegal immigration. Republicans kept the Senate working Saturday to install the latest member of Trump's national security team. She joins those already confirmed, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and CIA Director John Ratcliffe. Bob Agnew, Washington.
[00:25:58] Also at townhall.com, at least five lawsuits filed in reaction to the president's executive order denying U.S. citizenship to children of parents living in this country illegally. I think in some ways it was Trump opening a door that has been left slightly unsettled. I mean, you have extreme anti-immigration folks on the right. You have, you know, open borders folks on the left. This is going to give the court an opportunity to actually very firmly state, here is what we, here is what the Constitution means.
[00:26:27] Here is what the, in practice, we have done. Christine Rosen with the American Enterprise Institute. Here is what citizenship matters. If you are born in this country, even to people who came here illegally, I suspect the court will say you are still, nevertheless, an American citizen. Sales of previously occupied U.S. homes falling in 2024 to a nearly 30-year low for the second year in a row as elevated mortgage rates, rising home prices, and more problems kept them away.
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[00:30:12] The last couple of segments of the first show since Inauguration Day of 2025. Of course, eight years ago. I told you, I was thinking with Jared, when Jared was on the show last week, it was four years ago. How could it have been eight years ago? We were at the inauguration. I was about as far from Donald Trump when he was sworn in for the first time as I am from Bill Lord right now. It was that close, and it was me and Jared, and we had these press credentials.
[00:30:38] And that just seems like yesterday, and it also seems like a lifetime ago politically. And looking at where we are now, it's all a blur. But we're trying to make sense of it tonight with some really great people, Brad Griffin and, of course, Keith this year, and yours truly, Kristen Secor and Taylor Young, and some old friends and faces from the Council of Conservative Citizens.
[00:31:03] Now, a longtime web guru is Kyle Rogers, and Kyle had the CFCC website at one of the top of the heap in terms of traffic. And I think you would post something, and it would be instantaneously on a dozen different places. You just actually, and you're still doing it. You posted something about January 20th being Robert E. Lee Day, and you had 8 million views on Twitter. It's at 8.9 right now.
[00:31:32] 8.9, excuse me. Yeah, almost 9 million. But the funny thing about that is it's people rage retweeting it. It's people retweeting it to express their outrage. And then some of these people are actually sending me hate mail saying, how dare you post this racist tweet and force me to retweet it. But they're paying you. I mean, because you're going to get like, what, you're going to get 34 bucks from Twitter.
[00:32:02] All right. So, Kyle, let me ask you this very quickly. Your take on the topic of the program tonight, the first week of Trump 2.0. I mean, there's another lifelong partisan. On Monday, on Robert E. Lee Day, I was tweeting about the Civil Rights Act of 1964
[00:32:23] and about how a series of executive orders established and expanded affirmative action, even though the Congress said over and over that this Civil Rights Act was not going to bring about affirmative action. So that's what the people who opposed the Civil Rights Act, that was the main criticism that this was going to bring about institutionalized discrimination against white people
[00:32:51] at some point in the future. Now, the critics of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 never predicted that it would only take one year. So one year later, LBJ passes this infamous executive order that basically sets the stage for nationwide forced race-based affirmative action.
[00:33:13] And lo and behold, two days later, it's all over the news that Trump has rescinded this notorious executive order. So, I mean, that's the biggest white pill I've had in years and years, completely unexpected. Any disappointments? And the only criticisms I have of Trump so far, he willingly went to that national cathedral and allowed himself to be ambushed.
[00:33:42] But his response to that witch that was presiding, that priestess that was doing the pro-transgender sermon was pretty good. And you could see them shifting in their chair. I think actually his visceral reaction along with J.D. Vance while they were hearing this so-called sermon was even better than the denunciation he gave on Truth Social later. You could just see that it actually made them recoil physically.
[00:34:12] That shows that there is something in them. To put this into perspective, all you have to do is type National Cathedral in Google, go to the website, and right off the bat, you'll see a picture of a guy who is called Minister of Equity and Inclusion. There's a literal minister of DCI. Somebody scheduled him to go there and he needed... But he didn't have to go. So people think that he was required to go. He probably didn't know what was going on. He knew. He knew with the national cathedral.
[00:34:42] Well, maybe he went knowing and then gave that great response. But nevertheless, it was a good response. The other criticism is he doubled down on H-1B once again, even though in his original first term he campaigned against H-1B. Well, he was against Biden's H-1B. Well, he was against H-1B when Obama was in power too. But now since the tech bros are all in favor of bringing in unlimited... So what are we focusing on?
[00:35:11] Are we focusing on... And it's a good question. I mean, that is a serious issue, and you are right. That is not good. And we should mention that tonight along with all of the other things. I mean, we need to be fair and balanced and objective. But if you weigh it all on a scale, Kyle, again, a lifelong partisan for pro-white advocacy, where do you grade this thing? Well, like I said, Trump rescinding LBJ's executive order is the biggest white pill in years and years.
[00:35:38] It's one of the greatest things that a president... He never mentioned that. So this is the kind of thing that Ronald Reagan paid lip service to but never actually did. And in my opinion, much of what Ronald Reagan is currently praised for is a total fantasy. I don't even think he was a great president. No, Keith says he wasn't. Tell us very quickly. Now, we've been running these ads for the Conservative Citizens Foundation, our incredible sponsors,
[00:36:08] and we actually have spent about the last 36 hours in a smoke-filled room minus the smoke, coming up with some pretty great plans that I'm pretty excited about. But the interracial homicide tracking that we run the ads for here... That is a great ad. And by the way, and I've got to give credit where it is due. Kyle, you put together that ad that interspersed and spliced in the Joe Biden commentary.
[00:36:38] That's a great ad. So what's going on with that? Well, when it says over 2,000, it's now over 2,700. Because we've been running that ad a couple of months. It's now a major full-fledged academic study. So it's the largest study in interracial homicides that anyone has ever done in the history of America. And it's now since... So it goes back to January of 2023.
[00:37:06] But all the information since December of 2023 is fully searchable in several different ways. And people are going on there and using the information. And it's every kind of interracial homicide. So if a Saudi Arabian comes to America and murders an Eskimo, it's there. It's every kind of dynamic.
[00:37:32] Now, basically what we're finding is consistently blacks commit nearly 60% of all interracial homicides across the board. And you have to couple that with the fact that when blacks commit homicides, it's more likely to be spur of the moment. It's more likely to be low-impulse control homicides compared to other races. And they're less likely to be solved.
[00:37:56] And when you look at majority black cities, they have absolutely atrocious clearance rates. So you have majority black cities in America where only one out of three homicides is even solved. And yet still, you know, the FBI shows that blacks are committing nearly 60% of all homicides in America.
[00:38:17] And when we look at interracial homicides, once again, blacks are committing nearly 60% of all interracial homicides in which there's a known suspect. That seems low, actually. Well, like I said, you have all these majority black cities where hardly – where only one out of three homicides is even being solved. Let me ask you this.
[00:38:41] How many of all homicides in American cities or in America are committed by blacks who are 13%, as Linda said, of the population? Well, like I said, so time and time again in the – each year the FBI has a bunch of data. And it's actually been going up. So for the past several years, it keeps getting closer and closer and closer to 60%.
[00:39:07] And even then, I keep finding more and more problems with the FBI's data. And it always benefits lowering the overall black rate. So, for example, majority black areas in Mississippi and Alabama are some of the main places that habitually never submit data to the FBI.
[00:39:34] And so that's a huge amount of black homicides. And then you've got the fact that majority black cities have absolutely abysmal clearance rates. And you have all these homicides committed by blacks that are never solved. And then I keep finding other stuff. So here's an example. Springfield, Ohio has been in the news for all these Haitians.
[00:39:56] And recently, Springfield stopped listing the race of the perpetrator when they submit the data to the FBI. And guess what? If I went and I looked at the individual homicides in Springfield and I looked up the known perpetrators, and guess what? It's mostly blacks. 100%? It's not 100% black. 100%? No, it's not 100% blacks, but it's mostly black perpetrators.
[00:40:25] Where is the – what's the website before we take our last break? And Liz, we will take this last break so we can transition into our last couple of guests. But what is the website where people can follow all of this? It's national-conservative.com. But you can type N-A-T-C-O-N dot L-I-F-E. NatCon dot live. I think that's the URL that we're advertising here on the program. Yeah, that's the short radio URL. NatCon dot live.
[00:40:55] Anyway, we're out of time. Well, you keep that and have his headset on, but the music is taking us to break. NatCon dot live. Kyle Rogers, longtime webmaster for the CMCC. We'll be right back. The books the other guys are too afraid to touch, providing you with the information you need to challenge the status quo. Whether your interest are contemporary dissident politics, history that would otherwise be censored, philosophy, or exciting novels from talented new authors, you'll find plenty to love.
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[00:43:10] Well, we have got two guests to close out the program tonight. That will probably steal the stage from everyone we've had on prior to this moment. Most certainly, including yours truly. But first is Linda Baum, the wife of the late, great Gordon Baum.
[00:43:30] And I think your opinion, Linda, means so much as we continue to survey and take a look at how our people are interpreting and processing and viewing the first week of the new administration. Look, you and your husband, who was a great man and a fearless leader for our cause.
[00:43:56] You spent so many decades in the trenches with the council and all of these other endeavors that you've participated in. And here we are still now. So many years later, 2025 now. But you were there. I mean, you've seen the ups and the downs and the highs and the lows and a lot of lows. Yeah. But how do you see this first week of Trump? I'm so excited. So that coming from Gordon Baum's wife means something to me because you know the difference between the real deal and...
[00:44:27] Fool's gold. Yes, fool's gold. Keith is right. I'm so excited about it. He's... It's just... It never disappoints. I have not been disappointed at all. I have not been disappointed. So for all the things that... I mean, you put together all of those conferences along with Gordon, Bill and some others. A lot of work. Those conferences for the council every year. And we would always be there. And me and Keith and Jared and Sam. You know, all the usual suspects. Years and years and years. Great conferences.
[00:44:57] I mean, the one in Indiana with Sonny Landum. I mean, we were in Louisville. We were in... Yes. All over the place. All over the country. For a long time. And dating back to my time. And then, of course, y'all go way beyond that. That's a lot of years. Did you think you would see a president that had done the things that we have seen this president do this week? No. No, I never did. Is that what the council was striving towards these years? Okay. And Donald Trump was never even on the horizon.
[00:45:25] And when he was, he was opposing people like Pat Buchanan. Yeah. From the left. Exactly. No. But I've been so pleased. I'm so excited about this week. I just... I wake up every morning. I think it was worth all the work. So this week has been that fundamental for you to sort of put it all into perspective. Everything we were striving for all those years. You would say this week is sort of like a coming-of-age moment of all that?
[00:45:55] I think so. You would go that far? I think so. I mean, this is, again, Gordon Baum's... Linda Baum talking here. Oh, I lived through a lot. But, yeah, it's very exciting. I hope I'm not disappointed later. And we expect disappointments. Oh, they'll come? They'll come. They will. We know that. But I'm very excited about it. If you're waiting for the first disappointment to prove us all wrong and to make fools of us, I mean, you're not going to have to wait long. You won't. It will be the... But, I mean, again, the scale. The scale is, are we getting more than we're giving up?
[00:46:25] Are we getting more than our enemies are? And I think, you know, this week, I mean, the scale has tipped in our favor for the first time. Oh, yeah, it has. When has the scale tipped in our favor to the extent that it has this week in our lifetimes? Well, I just think... You'd have to go back to, you know, probably the Wallace days. Probably, yeah. You know, the Wallace inauguration where you had this much enthusiasm and hope that maybe we could fight back. Well, I think this is even better, really. All right, tell me why. Because it's real. It's happened. He's the real president. He is the president.
[00:46:55] Yeah. He is. And not just a governor. Not just a hopeful. All right. Well, final word, Linda. And then we're going to get to somebody who knew George Wallace and worked with George Wallace. I did not, yeah. But don't we all wish we did? Oh, I'd love to have known it. Well, let's toss it. Linda, do you want to, anything you want to plug or promote tonight? No, I guess not. Let's just go to Bill. All right. Well, here he is now.
[00:47:19] The Lord, as we always said, anytime he would speak at those council conferences, the Lord has spoken. So this is Bill Lord. Bill, you know, listen, I have saluted you a couple of times on the air tonight. We've got to get right up to the mic or it won't go off. But how far back do you go in this movement? I mean, you have, you know, you were planning these private schools for white kids going back to the 60s that saved them.
[00:47:47] I mean, they called them segregation academies back then. Now they just call them Christian schools or private schools. But it saved so many white kids from the horrors of integration. Sure did. You go back to that era, how many schools did you plant? Oh, it was about 17, I think. Some of them still in operation? Oh, yeah, about 10 of them, 10 of the 17. And of those, and I go back with Wallace. Of course, Linda and I are not that old. We keep hearing you talking. Me and her are old. We're young.
[00:48:17] I thought you were already better looking and better shaped than I am. I don't know. I said that earlier tonight. I appreciate that. Yeah, I enjoyed my years. I worked with George. You have more hair than I do for damn sure. Yeah. I worked with George Wallace, Ray Martin. A lot of folks remember Ray from over in Alabama. He and I were kind of in charge of the entertainment, what we used to behind the scene deal here.
[00:48:42] What Wallace would do, he would have a supper, and people would pay $500 to come to it. And we would have these stars from the Grand Ole Opry and all that was there. And mine and Ray's job was to try to get them there. And boy, I'll tell you what, we had some good ones. Of course, my favorite is Tammy Wynette. She loved him. Being her guy, I'll tell you about getting lost with her. Oh, now, now, now. That might be an after hours.
[00:49:12] Yeah. She flew in from somewhere. She was supposed to appear there, and they sent me to the airport to get her. And I picked her up, and we started. I thought it was at the Ryman Auditorium, but it wasn't. And it was at the City Auditorium. I didn't know where the heck that was. And anyway, she got off. She said, honey, you've got to carry me to get my hair fixed. Tammy Wynette. Yeah. So I took Tammy Wynette to the beauty parlor. And all these people were standing outside and everything. I got her loaded up. I started to the Ryman.
[00:49:41] She said, honey, this thing's at the City Auditorium. I said, well, I don't know where that is. She said, y'all's a cop. That's what you call that policeman. She said, y'all's a cop. Ask him for where it is. And I went on. I told him, look, I'm trying to find the City Auditorium. Am I going the right way? He said, no, you're headed toward Chattanooga. I said, oh. Well, maybe you wanted to with Tammy Wynette. But now, Keith, I'm already sold. Bill, let's make it a date right now in Confederate History Month when we do our April Confederate History Month series.
[00:50:10] We have you on for a full hour just for these recollections. Oh, Lord. Well, we had a lot of them. We worked with, of course, Jerry Lee Lewis was on time. Tammy Wynette, Loretta Lynn. Look at this. Oh, yeah. I hauled all of them around. Oh, my God. I mean, what a story. Tell us about George Wallace, though. I mean, you didn't just work for him as in you, like, knocked on doors for him. You knew him. Oh, I know. Yeah. Shoot you. I knew him real well. Tell us the real George Wallace.
[00:50:36] George Wallace was, he was genuine all the way, kind of like Trump. I tell you, I only had two presidents, and that's Robert E. Excuse me, not Robert E. Lee. Jefferson Davis. Jefferson Davis and him. Of course, they're kind of like Reagan, too. But anyway, let me finish this story with Tammy. Yeah. Anyway, that cop, as she called him, said, I said, I got Tammy Wynette in the car. I said, he said, the hell do you say? I said, yeah. I said, I'm trying to get her to the, she said, he said, let me get my picture, will
[00:51:06] and I'll carry you there. I said, okay, take me. He turned the blue light on. Boy, I got to ram him off. We had three police cars. All right. Listen, Bill, it's got to happen. A full hour, maybe a full show. Your recollections from those days. How many people can bridge the gap between then and now? I got to ask you this before we run out of time and give Keith the final word. So listen, you went back to Wallace. You knew Wallace. You didn't just knock on doors for him. You knew him. You were friends with him.
[00:51:31] So, you know, for a guy that goes back all the way back fighting against the horrors of really reconstruction, but, you know, integration and Brown versus Board, are you a guy who goes all the way back to Wallace? How do you view Trump's election or the actions of it this week? Oh, I think it's wonderful. That means a lot to me. George Wallace would be proud, reproud of him.
[00:51:55] I'll tell you what, the only thing that bothers me is I hope he's been there four years, get everything all straightened out, and then some idiot, let some liberal, and he'll go in there and try to overdo everything he's done. Of course, at least we'll have four years, I think, of good luck here and everything. Let's just keep it up. He's done more than anybody else. Keith, what about Bill Lord? 30 seconds. Bill Lord is a man, okay?
[00:52:23] He is, and let me tell you this, you were talking about important entertainers and whatnot that supported George Wallace. We had George Wallace's son on the show years ago. Oh, yeah. I knew his son real well. And he told us, you know, Elvis now is portrayed as this big liberal in this latest biopic about this, and he said that Elvis had a Wallace for President sign in the front yard of Graceland. That's right. Sure did. Sure did.
[00:52:53] Sure did. And that Elvis would offer George Wallace his jet, and, you know, it's anyway. But listen, we've got to get to more of these stories. Let's do it in April, which is Confederate History Month, because you go all the way back to those fights in the 60s. But I've got to say, my friend, and what an honor it's been to know you for all the years. It seems like all the years of my life, you know, at least since I was an adult. Oh, goodness. But, you know, to hear you say, as a guy who goes back to that era, even predating Keith, which is...
[00:53:22] It's anti-deluvian there. To hear you say that you and Linda, you are pumped up about what you've seen this week, that means a lot. That's a lot better than my perspective. I only go back to 1980. Y'all go back to fights long before that. Oh, yeah. And to hear Bill Lord say he's proud of what he's seen this week, that's a dynamic shift. Oh, yeah. It's great. I tell you what. I thought I never would live to see the day that things were changed like they did. I just hope that anything happened to him. Let's pray for that.
[00:53:52] They tried. They tried. They tried. And then now you've got this whole thing with this Tennessee congressman is saying, let's have an amendment to where he can run again. I mean, he's trying to acquire, you know, all of the northern hemisphere. I mean, you might really have an emperor. Yeah. And we aren't expansionist people. We're nationalists, but we're also expansionists. Right. So we'll see. Right. I wish he would succeed himself. I tell you what. Of course, he'd be shuffling around like at last present when you're in. He is getting up there. But he hadn't lost a step yet. So we'll see how far. Hey, listen.
[00:54:21] You haven't either, my friend. And let's have you back on in April. I want to do a full hour, maybe a whole show on recollections. Oh, you can do it. Linda, Bill, Kyle, Brad, Keith, James, Christian, Taylor in the second hour. God bless you, Bill. I got to shake your hand when we're live on the air. For all you do and for all you've done. Thank you very much. Linda as well. Good night, everybody. We'll talk to you next week.