[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool.
[00:00:12] The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
[00:00:21] And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:01:14] Well, there is Auld Lang Syne, folks, and there's Auld Lang Syne with a Scottish bagpipe military cadence, and you'll never confuse the two.
[00:01:26] Welcome back to our final hour of our final show of our 20th anniversary year, and it has been a wonderful year.
[00:01:35] It has been a year of advancement, a year of success, a year unmatched in many ways.
[00:01:43] There's so many things we're doing now that we were not doing before, and so many things we'll do next year that is going to be still territory to be conquered.
[00:01:56] But this now, our last hour of our last show of our 20th anniversary year, it is an honor to spend it with Keith Alexander and with Sam Bushman.
[00:02:06] So you have the two hosts of this program along with the network owner who makes the program possible,
[00:02:13] and there is no other way that I would choose to spend the last hour of this year, this milestone year, than this.
[00:02:22] Sam, thank you so much for being with us tonight to close out this year, which has been one for the books, I think.
[00:02:29] You're very welcome.
[00:02:30] God gave me an oar in 1992, 91 range right at the end of 91, and I just started rowing.
[00:02:37] And then, of course, things continue to change and change and change, and now I'm trying to bail water out of the boat while rowing at the same time.
[00:02:45] And anyway, I love it, and there's a lot of good going on, a lot of bad going on, a lot of funny going on.
[00:02:51] And I'm expecting laughter in 2025, James.
[00:02:55] We're going to laugh as we sit back and pop the popcorn and watch this whole sucker go down.
[00:02:59] They're calling it the MAGA Civil War now.
[00:03:02] We'll get into that.
[00:03:03] There's so much going on, but, you know, you played that intro with bagpipes and everything, and it makes me think of ACDC.
[00:03:08] I don't know if you ever heard this, but the first singer, the original singer of ACDC was a guy by the name of Bon Scott.
[00:03:14] And Bon Scott was a Scottish gentleman, lived in Australia, and became the front man, the lead singer for ACDC.
[00:03:21] Well, they have a song called It's a Long Way to the Top If You Want to Rock and Roll.
[00:03:26] And in that song, they play bagpipes, and bagpipes and hard rock guitar trade places.
[00:03:32] And it's fantastic sounding.
[00:03:34] Just so you know, bagpipes in a rock and roll tune, you got to dig it.
[00:03:37] Anyway, the reason I tell you this story is because it's a long way to the top.
[00:03:40] Is there another bagpipe rock and roll song that you can name other than that one?
[00:03:45] There's a couple, but I can't remember their names.
[00:03:47] But there's a couple of them, actually.
[00:03:49] That's one of the key first ones because people challenged him to do it, and it was kind of a game.
[00:03:54] And at first they joked around, and then they did it.
[00:03:56] Anyway, it's one of the key features of the original releases of that song.
[00:04:00] It's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll.
[00:04:02] The reason I bring that up, though, James, is it's a long way to the top when you take on the mainstream press, buddy.
[00:04:06] But we're getting it done.
[00:04:09] Hey, Sam, I've got to ask you about that.
[00:04:11] I mean, you had a stump speech for years.
[00:04:14] You are a very well-traveled conference speaker.
[00:04:20] You have spoken at all different types of events.
[00:04:23] I mean, actually, the first time I met you, I've got to tell this story.
[00:04:27] And I think this is a timely story in light of the part 12 of 12 retrospective we just played.
[00:04:33] I've been to the Hermitage twice in my life, the presidential home and final resting place of Andrew Jackson.
[00:04:41] I've been there twice, once with Pat Buchanan and once with Sam Bushman.
[00:04:47] And I won't tell you which one was more enjoyable, although I will say with Pat, we had an armed escort, and they let us jump on Andy's bed.
[00:04:56] But they didn't give us quite that much access.
[00:05:00] I don't know as much weight as Buchanan does.
[00:05:04] No, I wouldn't say that.
[00:05:05] But, no, the thing is.
[00:05:07] I'm getting on him, though.
[00:05:08] It's a long way to the top when you want to take on the mainstream press.
[00:05:10] So I'm working on it, buddy.
[00:05:12] No, not talking about that.
[00:05:13] But the thing is, I've been there twice, and it's with two of the most influential men in my life, you and Pat.
[00:05:20] But the thing is, I was there with you that particular week because you were speaking.
[00:05:27] You were one of the keynote speakers at a Constitution Party conference, which was very well attended.
[00:05:33] I mean, there was hundreds of people there, far more than people would have expected if you haven't ever been to one.
[00:05:39] And I actually ran into Pat's former communications director, Peter Gemma, at that particular event.
[00:05:44] And we reminisced on old times.
[00:05:47] Anyway, but the speech you gave was the new media is taking center stage.
[00:05:54] You've been giving this speech for years.
[00:05:56] But I think this was the year, Sam.
[00:05:58] And would you agree or disagree that this was the year that once and for all,
[00:06:02] new media has actually supplanted whatever you want to call it, establishment media, controlled media, legacy media,
[00:06:10] in terms of because if anything was supposed to have been taught to us is that Donald Trump was not to be elected.
[00:06:18] And yet here he is.
[00:06:19] Has our point of view supplanted the establishment press that is so lavishly funded?
[00:06:25] I wish it were true, but I think it's not true, but I think it's becoming true.
[00:06:30] And what I mean by that is it happens in stages.
[00:06:33] Okay?
[00:06:34] And so we're gaining credibility.
[00:06:36] There's enough of us now taking them on that, you know what, you put a bunch of us together and we blow away the mainstream press.
[00:06:42] That's never been the case before.
[00:06:44] They've been the gatekeepers.
[00:06:45] And so, hey, they've always shut us down.
[00:06:47] They've always outflanked us.
[00:06:49] They've always called us nutcases.
[00:06:50] But the problem is their name calling is coming to an end.
[00:06:53] And this is 2024 that you mentioned where we're seeing the sea change.
[00:06:57] Now nobody cares if you call me a white supremacist.
[00:06:59] Now nobody cares if you call me a right-wing nutcase.
[00:07:01] Now nobody cares if you call me a Trump supporter or this or that.
[00:07:05] People are just so sick of it.
[00:07:06] They're just, whenever those claims are made, people's eyes roll and they walk away and go, you too, huh?
[00:07:11] Because it's become so ubiquitous now to where they've lost all credibility.
[00:07:15] The problem is they still have tons of money.
[00:07:17] And it doesn't matter what your credibility is.
[00:07:19] If you have money, you can spend the lives nevertheless.
[00:07:21] And you can still capture a segment of the population.
[00:07:23] So there's still a segment of the population that is held hostage.
[00:07:26] And right now it's close to 50% of the country.
[00:07:28] The rest of us are starting to break free.
[00:07:30] And it will continue.
[00:07:31] As they continue to call names and marginalize and manipulate and lie and get caught over and over and over and over, they will be continually exposed.
[00:07:38] But Donald Trump put, look, you've got to be rich, famous, an actress, a media personnel to be in the Trump administration, right?
[00:07:48] So he's still calling upon those people.
[00:07:50] And that's why the sea change hasn't happened.
[00:07:52] If Donald would double down and come on shows like yours and mine and put average Joes into office and in places of authority, this wouldn't be the case.
[00:08:00] But right now you still have the ruling class in charge, James.
[00:08:05] Here comes a new boss just like the old boss, right?
[00:08:08] Well, you know what I'm saying?
[00:08:09] Well, you've always had a very nuanced view on this because I think, you know, this is interesting in so much as all audiences.
[00:08:17] Yeah, but name one person of the administration that's not rich, famous, already been in government, already been in the media, already whatever.
[00:08:24] It's just a revolving door of all these clowns.
[00:08:26] Well, I mean, you know, I think one of the people you had on your show earlier this year may fit that actual criteria, and that is Caroline LeVette, who is his...
[00:08:36] What?
[00:08:36] Press secretary.
[00:08:37] Yes, press secretary.
[00:08:38] Caroline LeVette.
[00:08:39] Yeah, she was on my show.
[00:08:40] Very nice lady.
[00:08:40] The problem is now I can't get a hold of her.
[00:08:42] She doesn't return my calls anymore.
[00:08:44] See, now that they're elected, they don't need us.
[00:08:46] Well, I don't always...
[00:08:47] That was my dating experience, too.
[00:08:51] Well, maybe you ought to have Keith Caller.
[00:08:55] Well, the point is, though, there is a nuance amongst even the listeners of my show, your show, this network.
[00:09:06] I voted for Trump three times.
[00:09:08] You voted for him zero times, and there are a lot of people in between.
[00:09:11] That is correct, and I'm proud of it, by the way.
[00:09:13] It's a very interesting thing.
[00:09:16] A very interesting thing while we all wish for the best and hope that he will do what needs to be done.
[00:09:24] That's an interesting thing.
[00:09:25] Yeah, I fit the perfect mold between a never-Trumper and an always-Trumper.
[00:09:29] I'm neither.
[00:09:30] So I'm just a, you know, tell the truth.
[00:09:32] I'm a truth teller.
[00:09:33] And if it's...
[00:09:33] I stand on the right side of principles every time, and if it's right, I stand for it.
[00:09:36] If it's wrong, I stand against it.
[00:09:37] And I don't care who's in the way.
[00:09:39] Who'd you actually vote for this year?
[00:09:42] You really want to know?
[00:09:43] I voted for Dr. Scott Bradley to be president and Sam Bushman to be vice president, and I wrote it in.
[00:09:47] You did a write-in.
[00:09:48] You did a write-in.
[00:09:49] Yes, I did.
[00:09:49] Myself as vice president.
[00:09:52] Well...
[00:09:52] What do you think?
[00:09:52] Don't you think I'd be the VP?
[00:09:54] I vote for you over Vance.
[00:09:56] I like, you know, some of the things he says I like.
[00:09:58] Well, there's even talk about Vance getting axed now, right?
[00:10:02] Well, I mean, you know, again, your friend and mine, Lou Moore...
[00:10:06] And I was talking about Koala being placed, coordinated before Trump can get inaugurated, right?
[00:10:10] I saw that.
[00:10:11] I mean, that's probably, you know, a little bit fanciful.
[00:10:15] Yeah, fanciful.
[00:10:16] But your friend and mine, Lou Moore, was on, as you know, in the last hour live, and we were talking about all this.
[00:10:22] I mean, it's a very interesting thing going on in the MAGA world right now.
[00:10:26] I've been to lunch with Lou Moore three times in the last six months.
[00:10:29] Let's see.
[00:10:30] I mean, you know...
[00:10:31] Yeah.
[00:10:32] Great, dude.
[00:10:32] There you go.
[00:10:32] Great guy.
[00:10:33] I'm working on a serious project with him that we'll be unleashing in 2025, by the way.
[00:10:38] It's interesting.
[00:10:38] It has to do with sheriffs, and it has to do with getting people elected.
[00:10:41] Well, maybe we can talk about that when we come back, our last hour of our last show.
[00:10:47] We've also got to talk about Steve Bannon, though.
[00:10:49] There's a funny MAGA war to tell you about.
[00:10:51] Well, I mean, and you and one of your other organizations upon which you sit at the head of the table,
[00:10:58] have had some intimate dealings with Steve Bannon in recent days.
[00:11:02] We'll be right back.
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[00:13:46] Ladies and gentlemen, the last show of our 20th anniversary year, last hour of it, in fact,
[00:13:52] what a privilege it is to spend it with Sam Bushman, the owner of the Liberty News Radio Network,
[00:13:58] also libertynewsradio.com, by the way, the host of the Monday through Friday show,
[00:14:05] and then some.
[00:14:06] He's on the air Saturday as well, libertyroundtable.com,
[00:14:11] and I'm there with him a couple of times a month.
[00:14:15] Got an email in from a listener in South Carolina who was with us in South Carolina,
[00:14:19] as everybody associated with the program tonight has been, including Sam himself.
[00:14:27] Yeah, when the mainstream press attacked me, I proudly doubled down on supporting that, by the way.
[00:14:33] You sure did, and always have.
[00:14:36] James, finally able to listen live.
[00:14:37] Really excited for this show.
[00:14:39] Excellent so far.
[00:14:41] Just wanted to send a note of encouragement.
[00:14:43] This Twitter blow-up has been unreal following Occidental Dissent and Brad on Gab,
[00:14:49] and it's been great.
[00:14:50] We are waking up more of our people each day.
[00:14:52] Keep it up.
[00:14:53] Well, we can only keep it up because we have the support of people like Sam.
[00:14:56] And Sam, I mean, listen, you have been...
[00:15:00] It's interesting.
[00:15:02] The amount of media crush, the crush of media that Sam has endured over his career.
[00:15:09] I mean, we can relate.
[00:15:12] But just...
[00:15:13] It was a year ago at this time they were attacking you, Sam, in Rolling Stone magazine.
[00:15:18] Rolling Stone magazine.
[00:15:19] Yeah, there used to be a music...
[00:15:21] The clowns over there had a heyday.
[00:15:23] And all it did is increase my profile tenfold.
[00:15:26] That's all.
[00:15:26] Keep it up, Rolling Stone.
[00:15:27] We appreciate it.
[00:15:28] And then now, a year later, I mean, not just this month, but within the last week,
[00:15:35] you have been featured prominently in the Epoch Times and Wired magazine for a similar reason,
[00:15:41] but very different treatments.
[00:15:43] Yeah, I emailed the Wired clown, too, and gave him a piece of my mind, James, right?
[00:15:48] You sure did.
[00:15:49] I was able to receive the forwarded message of that exchange.
[00:15:53] And so why is Epoch Times and Wired magazine both focusing on you and your work on the radio
[00:16:00] and elsewhere right now, a year, almost to the date that Rolling Stone showed so much interest?
[00:16:06] All right.
[00:16:07] The reason is the Constitutional Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association has a huge footprint
[00:16:12] whether they want to admit it or not.
[00:16:14] And they vacillate between telling you how vitally, critically, important we are and telling
[00:16:18] you we're nobodies.
[00:16:18] They love that scenario, whatever fits their deal.
[00:16:21] If we're going to sue them, then we're super, super star-powered celebrities,
[00:16:25] because then you can't sue them, right?
[00:16:27] On the other hand, they try to pretend that our footprint's nothing.
[00:16:29] So this David clown over at Wired wanted to do a story on us, talked to Richard Mack in detail,
[00:16:35] talked to a sheriff in Arizona.
[00:16:36] The sheriff in Arizona basically said, ah, no one listens to Mack.
[00:16:39] He doesn't matter.
[00:16:39] It's not really very important at all.
[00:16:42] So then this Wired reporter wrote Mack and said, the sheriff says you're nobody,
[00:16:46] that you're a has-been, that it's not worth.
[00:16:47] Richard Mack politely wrote back like 18-point response and said, hey, you know, this guy
[00:16:55] can say what he wants.
[00:16:56] Here's the 18 things that we've been critically involved in, not to mention beating Bill Clinton
[00:17:01] at the Supreme Court and living to tell about it.
[00:17:04] But nevertheless, and so the reporter then wrote this clown article, basically attacking
[00:17:09] the CSPOA, saying that they could never get the job done.
[00:17:12] I'll get to the job in just a second.
[00:17:14] Ignoring the complete 18 points and all that kind of stuff.
[00:17:17] And so I wrote the reporter and told him he was a clown and told him he should come on
[00:17:21] the radio and we should debate these two articles because they're really two different people
[00:17:25] writing articles on the same topic, same issue.
[00:17:28] It just depends on if you have a moral compass or not.
[00:17:32] Okay, you study this Wired guy and he's basically a reporter for extremists and white supremacists
[00:17:37] and all this other stuff.
[00:17:38] That's his whole profile.
[00:17:39] You go look it up.
[00:17:40] That's who this clown is.
[00:17:41] He's a worthless, you know, whatever.
[00:17:44] But anyway, I challenged him to come on the radio and debate this with me.
[00:17:47] But of course he won't.
[00:17:48] He's too chicken.
[00:17:48] But there's a lady over at the Epoch Times and her last name is Sanchez.
[00:17:53] So she's Hispanic to some degree, which I don't care about.
[00:17:56] I'm just making a point.
[00:17:57] The whole discussion is immigration.
[00:18:00] Now you would think the Hispanic would attack us, but no, the Hispanic was an honorable
[00:18:04] reporter that documented it fairly.
[00:18:07] So while the Wired people are like, yeah, the CSPOA, the loudest voice in the movement,
[00:18:13] they're really nobody.
[00:18:14] They're just babble.
[00:18:15] So says that sheriffs are going to help on the border and they really can't do anything,
[00:18:19] says the law.
[00:18:20] And he goes on with this unsubstantiated baloney.
[00:18:23] Well, the Epoch Times reporter, a female with the last name of Sanchez, writes and says,
[00:18:28] hey, they're going to have a tremendous, a tremendous difference.
[00:18:35] Sheriffs say they can help ICE in Trump's mass deportation plan.
[00:18:43] Who in this country knows the county better than the sheriffs?
[00:18:46] And she quotes Richard Mack.
[00:18:47] And then she has this great article that breaks it down that, you know what?
[00:18:50] Sheriffs do have a lot of authority.
[00:18:52] And so there's a photo of a sheriff arresting someone and there's okay.
[00:18:55] And so now the battle's on.
[00:18:58] Well, we wrote a press release and put it in the mainstream press.
[00:19:02] And so we're getting contacted by all kinds of media because Richard Mack now, the founder
[00:19:06] and president of CSPOA, I'm just the CEO in charge of day-to-day operations and such.
[00:19:11] But we have been working with Tom Holman now to put together a plan to make a difference.
[00:19:17] And these clowns don't know what to do with themselves, James.
[00:19:19] That's the bottom line of the discussion here.
[00:19:21] But the two contrasting articles, I want to get all three of us on the radio and I want
[00:19:25] to have both, you know, authors on the radio.
[00:19:27] And let's just break it down fact by fact.
[00:19:28] Let's just do an incredible fact check, shall we?
[00:19:32] But they won't do it.
[00:19:33] Well, and then again, you just mentioned Steve Bannon who had, and actually in a quite
[00:19:39] enthusiastic way, your friend Sheriff Richard Mack on his program just a few days ago and
[00:19:45] touting the significance and the impact of your organization, the CSPOA.
[00:19:51] You just mentioned your title there.
[00:19:52] You are not just the owner of this network.
[00:19:54] You are not just a talk radio host.
[00:19:57] You are much more than that.
[00:19:59] And you have your irons in a lot of fires.
[00:20:03] And your work with the CSPOA is separate, but, you know, somewhat related, of course,
[00:20:08] to this network and so much as you advertise and publicize the work with the CSPOA.
[00:20:15] And Richard joins me on the radio with my show quite often and some of the other hosts on
[00:20:18] the network as well and such like that.
[00:20:20] And so, you know, we're doing our best to make a difference.
[00:20:22] But here's what happened.
[00:20:23] So we were working with Tom Holman.
[00:20:25] Steve Bannon then said, we pushed against a guy by the name of Chad Bianco in Florida
[00:20:30] who Trump wanted to make his DEA czar.
[00:20:35] And we pushed back so hard, wrote a press release against it and everything else.
[00:20:38] Steve Bannon says Trump thanks us for giving him a heads up.
[00:20:42] Chad Bianco claims he pulled his name, but Trump says, no, I'm the one that pulled it.
[00:20:46] And Steve Bannon says the reason Trump pulled it is primarily us.
[00:20:49] So we're nobody's, James.
[00:20:52] Exactly.
[00:20:52] You know, you and I have always laughed about that.
[00:20:54] I mean, there was a, you know, Congress debated this thing from the SPLC that said that we
[00:21:04] were, in fact, the nexus of, I can't even remember exactly how they phrased us.
[00:21:10] Of hate and anti-government in America.
[00:21:12] Yeah, hate and anti-government.
[00:21:13] Okay.
[00:21:14] That's what it was that time.
[00:21:16] But, I mean, to be the nexus of anything is to be the center of it.
[00:21:19] And so I don't know if you're going to be a part of anything.
[00:21:21] You certainly want to be the center of it.
[00:21:23] But, and they use their adjectives.
[00:21:25] We use ours.
[00:21:27] But, no, I mean, this is incredible.
[00:21:29] What you do here on this network as a host.
[00:21:34] And, you know, it takes me back to, and Keith, I think, to, did you hear that thunder?
[00:21:41] Did that thunder actually come through?
[00:21:43] Yes, it did.
[00:21:43] We hear it.
[00:21:44] That is incredible.
[00:21:46] Wow.
[00:21:46] There is a, I can't believe we're still here.
[00:21:48] That didn't take you off the air.
[00:21:49] Yeah, that would be a shame to die.
[00:21:52] But I'll tell you, everybody needs to go read the Wired article by this clown named David, somebody.
[00:21:57] And then this Mrs. Sanchez article in the Epoch Times.
[00:22:00] And you'll see, same story, just completely different facts.
[00:22:03] And this is why America is so divided and why the mainstream press is melting down.
[00:22:07] Because they just don't have any credibility anymore.
[00:22:09] The week of Christmas.
[00:22:10] Both published the week of Christmas.
[00:22:12] And, of course, Sam, you know, we have debated for years the attributes and the detriments of Donald Trump.
[00:22:19] But the one thing I think we can agree on is that this was the year, and Trump was a catalyst in this, of the, whatever you want to call them, Keith, the legacy media.
[00:22:31] They have entirely been displaced by...
[00:22:34] Gaster-year clowns.
[00:22:35] Yeah.
[00:22:35] A lot of these people like Brian Stelter are looking for work, I tell you what.
[00:22:39] And a lot more are going to be looking for work.
[00:22:41] And they can't handle doing it the way we did it, which is by the seat of our pants without getting paychecks.
[00:22:47] Well, if 10 years, almost 10 years of anti-Trump propaganda has not convinced the American public not to re-elect this guy, nothing will.
[00:22:56] And the fact that he was re-elected just, I think, goes to show the fact that the American population has moved on from establishment media.
[00:23:04] And, Sam, you've been saying that for years.
[00:23:06] You were saying that at that...
[00:23:08] Well, right after the election, you saw these main clown networks literally lose 45-plus percent of their whole viewership.
[00:23:15] Now you've got these clown folks over at MSNBC or whatever else.
[00:23:19] Those guys are like 600,000 viewers.
[00:23:22] James, we have more than that.
[00:23:23] They don't want to admit it, but we have more than that.
[00:23:26] Well, you know, that's what we were talking about.
[00:23:28] It's that we are at once completely and entirely insignificant and nonexistent, but we are also at the center of it all.
[00:23:35] We are the nexus of it all, according to them.
[00:23:38] It's a matter of what role they need us to play for their narrative.
[00:23:41] We are at once, as the Washington Post put it, Donald Trump Jr. did not step out of his father's shadow until he did the interview with us.
[00:23:50] And Hillary Clinton saying that we would control the country.
[00:23:53] Yeah, you've got to hang out with Sam Bushman and James Edwards to step out of your father's shadow.
[00:23:56] You know what I'm talking about?
[00:23:57] Well, it's still on his Wikipedia page today, ladies and gentlemen, that was he actually agreeing with us or was he just doing it for political advantage, which actually begs the question, is our way of thinking?
[00:24:10] That popular.
[00:24:11] Yeah, exactly.
[00:24:12] And I think it is that popular.
[00:24:14] And that's what it takes to win elections.
[00:24:17] Well, I mean, I think that's been proven.
[00:24:19] That had not been proven in 2015 and then in 2016.
[00:24:22] But in any event, here we are now.
[00:24:24] And, Sam, the last 30 minutes of, wow, our 20th anniversary.
[00:24:28] I want to give you the latest Steve Bannon fire, too.
[00:24:30] This is interesting.
[00:24:33] We'll do that when we come back.
[00:24:34] 30 minutes remaining in our 20th anniversary year.
[00:24:37] And we're spinning it with the man who keeps us on the air and has done so for so many of those 20 years.
[00:24:44] Not all of them, but the majority of them will be right back with Sam Bushman.
[00:24:50] Exposing corruption.
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[00:25:00] News this hour from townhall.com.
[00:25:03] I'm Jason Walker.
[00:25:04] Arkansas Republican Senator Tom Cotton says President Biden's commutation of 37 death sentences this week
[00:25:11] was motivated more by politics than ethics.
[00:25:15] Obvious, he says, that considering three of the sentences he did not commute.
[00:25:20] The Boston Marathon bomber.
[00:25:21] The Tree of Life bomber.
[00:25:23] Or a shooter.
[00:25:24] And the Charleston shooter.
[00:25:27] So Joe Biden was willing to commute every death sentence on federal death row
[00:25:32] except for the most politically inconvenient murderers.
[00:25:36] In Sweden, burial associations now looking to acquire enough land
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[00:25:47] The search follows new crisis preparedness guidelines
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[00:25:56] Also at townhall.com,
[00:25:59] as lawmakers prepare to support the incoming agencies set up to trim government waste,
[00:26:05] the Senate organizes a panel to help out.
[00:26:08] Congress already has a Doge caucus to support the work of co-chairs Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy.
[00:26:13] Now meet the Maha caucus.
[00:26:14] Republican Senators Roger Marshall of Kansas,
[00:26:17] Tommy Tuberville of Alabama,
[00:26:18] Rick Scott of Florida,
[00:26:20] Cynthia Loomis of Wyoming,
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[00:26:41] Bernie Bennett reporting.
[00:26:42] Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court to pause the potential TikTok ban from going into effect
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[00:26:50] pursue a political resolution to the issue.
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[00:30:46] If you're listening live right now, folks, an early Happy New Year to you.
[00:30:50] If you are listening in the broadcast archives after the first Happy New Year to you,
[00:30:56] just the same.
[00:30:57] Thank you.
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[00:30:59] Ladies and gentlemen, for 20 years as an entirely listener-supported entity to make it two decades.
[00:31:06] And wow, this has just been such a wonderful 20th anniversary year.
[00:31:09] All of the guests, all of the special series, March Around the World, Confederate History Month,
[00:31:15] the different places we've done live remote broadcasts from.
[00:31:19] Obviously, our 20th anniversary conference where Sam was such an integral part of that.
[00:31:23] All of it.
[00:31:24] All of it.
[00:31:25] This TPC at 20 retrospective series.
[00:31:27] All of those guests, many of them have now departed this mortal coil.
[00:31:34] Thank you all for 20 years.
[00:31:36] Thank you all for 20 years.
[00:31:38] And we'll spend a little bit more time in the last segment just sort of looking back
[00:31:45] and then also looking ahead to 2025.
[00:31:47] Sam, I mean, there's so much going on.
[00:31:49] So much going on.
[00:31:51] I just want to be sure to give this update, though, very quickly that Sam has been one of our dispatches out there
[00:31:59] to let us know when the mail is being delivered.
[00:32:01] And we figured it out.
[00:32:02] It looks like it's about a two-week delivery process nationwide now.
[00:32:06] I'm getting mail every day that's postmarked about 10 to 14 days prior to its delivery.
[00:32:12] So this is a nationwide snarl that seems to be affecting the entire country.
[00:32:18] And they trusted for elections.
[00:32:22] Well, did you see that Donald Trump is talking about privatizing the post office again?
[00:32:29] I saw an article about that.
[00:32:31] Never before had to move this slow.
[00:32:33] Sam, I'll tell you, I knew immediately something was wrong when it was taking 10-plus days to get things delivered.
[00:32:43] The Pony Express took 10 days from St. Joseph's.
[00:32:46] Now, listen to this.
[00:32:47] This is the truth.
[00:32:48] I mean, this is a joke, but it's true.
[00:32:50] It's funny, but it's true.
[00:32:52] The Pony Express from St. Joseph's, Missouri, to Sacramento, California, guaranteed 10-day delivery.
[00:32:58] And they had to navigate extreme weather, harsh terrain, attacks by bandits and Indians.
[00:33:05] I mean, sometimes they died.
[00:33:07] They were on horseback, not airplane, without modern logistics.
[00:33:11] And they still got it there in 10 days.
[00:33:13] That is actually better than what we've got now with the USPS.
[00:33:17] That's because they delivered all mail, and it was basically a sacred duty to deliver all mail.
[00:33:22] Nowadays, they have a filter.
[00:33:23] If it would have been a Joe Biden or a Kamala Harris or one of those clowns mail sent out, it would have been there tomorrow.
[00:33:30] But for you, James, no dice, no cigar.
[00:33:33] Well, for me, it's half a month, and it's taking half a month to get it in.
[00:33:36] But it is coming in.
[00:33:37] It does arrive eventually.
[00:33:38] So I want to just thank everyone who sent in their support this month.
[00:33:41] We did finally weather the storm.
[00:33:44] And anyway, we're okay for another year, another quarter.
[00:33:47] We exist quarter to quarter.
[00:33:48] But we really need your support, so you need to start with a positive number and add zeros, okay?
[00:33:52] There you go.
[00:33:53] All right.
[00:33:54] Well, Sam, back to you on this.
[00:33:55] I mean, the things we were talking about in the last segment continue on.
[00:33:59] So the reason I told you about the two polar stories, it isn't really a point to talk about Sam Bushman and how important or not I am.
[00:34:06] You know, we just want to point out that when it comes to James and this show, when it comes to what we do, they want you to believe we're nobodies.
[00:34:12] That's their narrative.
[00:34:12] What you guys do doesn't really matter.
[00:34:14] At the same time, you see our footprint, our handprint, whatever you want to call it, all over almost everything that gets released.
[00:34:21] We're at the center of it.
[00:34:22] I can't remember what story came out just the other day.
[00:34:24] But we had a reporter on the ground that was literally live reporting about it.
[00:34:27] And everywhere we go, this tiny radio network with James and me and Lou and just so many of us, it just seems like every time something breaks, man, we've got a handle on it.
[00:34:39] We've got an inside scoop on it.
[00:34:40] We've got an involvement in it in unique ways.
[00:34:43] And that's really what I want to tell everyone.
[00:34:44] Your support matters.
[00:34:46] What you're doing makes a difference.
[00:34:47] And even though you think our footprint's tiny, and from a financial point of view, it may be true.
[00:34:52] But from a get it done, punching above our weight is what James likes to say.
[00:34:56] You know, we're making a tremendous, tremendous difference.
[00:34:59] So we got this clown guy that was going to be the head of the DEA that's corrupt.
[00:35:04] Let's all get out.
[00:35:05] We got him shut down, folks.
[00:35:07] The CSPOA should have press release, and we got him shut down.
[00:35:10] Donald pulled the name, and Steve Bannon gave us credit for it.
[00:35:13] And that's something, folks, for nobody.
[00:35:15] Well, that happened just in the last couple of days.
[00:35:18] Yes, it did.
[00:35:19] And Steve was talking with y'all on his War Room livestream.
[00:35:23] I mean, you know, depending on what the narrative needs, we are either at once entirely insignificant and nonexistent,
[00:35:29] or we are, as Hillary Clinton said, we would be running the country if Trump wins.
[00:35:34] We are, as the Washington Post said, the ones who brought Donald Trump out of his father's, Jr., out of his father's shadow.
[00:35:44] And then, of course, you know, the SPLC says basically we're the nexus, and they send this to Congress for Congress to mull.
[00:35:50] I mean, we are at once the beginning and end of all things and nonexistent.
[00:35:55] And the truth is we're somewhere in between.
[00:35:57] But, Keith, you've been here for 20 years.
[00:35:59] How would you situate our position?
[00:36:02] Well, we've been a voice in the wilderness basically from the very beginning.
[00:36:06] And, I mean, we had humble beginnings.
[00:36:09] We were out there in that cotton patch out in Millington, Tennessee with snakes and robots.
[00:36:15] But we were still on AM radio, you know, and we were still doing something in building.
[00:36:19] And that was something that no one else could claim in our sphere of influence.
[00:36:24] So, yeah, and then we got – we used to do it every night.
[00:36:29] Then it went on a four-month hiatus one time, and then we got back in and we –
[00:36:35] But even in that four months, we were still – the reruns, the rebroadcasts, the best ofs were being continuously re-aired until we came back as a once-a-week show in the rest is history.
[00:36:45] Right.
[00:36:46] That was in 08.
[00:36:47] But, see, you were talking about the meeting we had over at my office.
[00:36:50] Yeah, let's talk about – this is one memory we want to mention.
[00:36:52] This is key, Sam.
[00:36:53] I want you to hear this.
[00:36:54] So, the first time we entered into – if you want to call it syndication, I guess you can.
[00:37:02] We were picked up by a network.
[00:37:04] It was RBN.
[00:37:06] But I didn't know –
[00:37:07] That's a public broadcast network.
[00:37:09] And they do a great job, and they're still on the air now.
[00:37:12] I mean, there's –
[00:37:12] They were rents.
[00:37:13] Yeah, the founder and owners passed away.
[00:37:15] John Stattmiller.
[00:37:16] John Stattmiller.
[00:37:17] They're still rolling.
[00:37:17] Right.
[00:37:18] But, Sam, you were on RBN at the same time that we got picked up.
[00:37:22] That's right.
[00:37:22] And we were there for just a couple of months.
[00:37:25] And then the opportunity – you gave us an opportunity to come and be part of Liberty News Radio Network, and this was in 2009.
[00:37:34] And Bill Rowland and I and Keith Alexander and Winston Smith was still there in Memphis at the time.
[00:37:40] And we – maybe Eddie was there.
[00:37:41] I don't remember.
[00:37:42] But we were all there at your law office, Keith.
[00:37:45] And we were in your conference room, your boardroom, with this nice big oak table.
[00:37:50] And we were looking at it, and we're like, you know, if we stay here where we are now versus going with Sam Bushman.
[00:37:56] And at that time, Sam, we didn't know you as we know you now.
[00:37:58] We hadn't really had that many – I don't think we had any in-person conversations.
[00:38:03] I know that.
[00:38:04] We had never met in person.
[00:38:05] I don't think we had ever even spoken on the phone.
[00:38:06] I only had one phone conversation by that time.
[00:38:10] But there was an intermediary between us that was sort of relaying things back and forth.
[00:38:13] But I know, yeah, Michael had gave me your number, and I think I had called you and talked to you for a few minutes.
[00:38:17] But anyway, go ahead.
[00:38:18] Yeah, maybe something brief.
[00:38:20] But anyway, we sat there, and we all talked at Keith's office there in 08-09.
[00:38:26] And then the rest was history.
[00:38:28] We made this decision that cemented our future.
[00:38:32] And from 2009 to 2024, there's a lot more years between 09 and 04 than there was between 04 and 09.
[00:38:39] And Sam, all credit to you as you close out this segment.
[00:38:43] Well, I don't know about credit, but I will say this.
[00:38:45] At the time, what happened was they were producing my show as well, and the producer wouldn't show up sometimes.
[00:38:51] And I got mad and said to the owner, John Stattmiller, I said, listen, you're going to have to give me a different producer.
[00:38:55] And he goes, I don't have one.
[00:38:56] You've got to live with what I've got.
[00:38:57] I said, I'm going to produce my own show then.
[00:38:59] He said, if you do, you're fired.
[00:39:00] You're off the network.
[00:39:01] I said, I don't want you to do this, John.
[00:39:03] Don't do this to me.
[00:39:03] I'm not the guy to do this to.
[00:39:05] I promise you.
[00:39:05] Don't do this.
[00:39:06] Let's work this out, buddy.
[00:39:07] Come on.
[00:39:07] And he just took this hired-in-thou attitude, and he said, you're gone.
[00:39:11] And I said, okay, well, then if that's the case, I've got 30 days.
[00:39:13] I'll work on something.
[00:39:14] And he goes, no, you're gone today.
[00:39:17] And I said, John, I'm telling you, don't do this.
[00:39:19] He did.
[00:39:20] He pissed me off.
[00:39:21] I literally pulled an all-nighter, built my own network, and it's been in existence ever since.
[00:39:25] John called me the next day and said, what the hell is happening?
[00:39:27] How did you do that?
[00:39:28] And I said, dude, I told you not to do that to me.
[00:39:31] And he then said, I don't have a show.
[00:39:32] And I said, tough crap.
[00:39:33] You're not taking mine.
[00:39:34] And that was the end of that.
[00:39:35] And we've been on the air ever since.
[00:39:37] I've had a bunch of hosts, too.
[00:39:39] In the past, I let a lot of them go because they weren't as loyal as I had hoped them to be.
[00:39:44] But James was always solid as a rock, and me and James have always stuck together.
[00:39:48] People said, oh, Sam won't have the money.
[00:39:49] He'll run out of money.
[00:39:50] He won't be able to run the network.
[00:39:51] And they don't know who I am.
[00:39:53] And so, I don't know.
[00:39:55] What is it now, 15 years later?
[00:39:57] I guess 16 years later?
[00:39:58] Well, Sam, I can tell you this.
[00:40:00] And we're tearing it up.
[00:40:00] Is there a lot of the time that we've been doing this?
[00:40:03] Let me just say this.
[00:40:04] And all the time that we've been associated with you, I've never heard one murmur from James or anyone else about leaving Liberty News your channel here.
[00:40:16] Well, I mean, much more than that.
[00:40:17] It has been nothing but effusive praise, but not in a sycophantic type of manner, but because it has been deservingly so.
[00:40:26] I mean, Sam is a man who leads by example, and he is a man who I want to try to emulate.
[00:40:32] I don't, you know, heroes is a word that is, you know, banded about, I think, far too flippantly.
[00:40:39] I'm just a redneck rebel with a cause.
[00:40:41] That's all there is to it.
[00:40:42] That's all.
[00:40:42] No, no, no, Sam is a man who has done the things, and he walks the walk.
[00:40:51] And if everybody was more like Sam, we'd be a better place.
[00:40:56] And if you got his Christmas card this year, you'd know why.
[00:40:58] One of the reasons why I mean it.
[00:41:01] It is.
[00:41:01] It is.
[00:41:01] He's the best among us.
[00:41:02] We'll be right back.
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[00:43:17] I don't even have to look at the week-by-week countdown of everything we've done this year going back to the 1st of January.
[00:43:29] I remember that first show of the year, by the way.
[00:43:32] I remember all of the shows.
[00:43:33] They're all my babies.
[00:43:34] But this whole year has been a march through the 20th anniversary year.
[00:43:40] And from the Valentine's Day show with the girls in February, through March Around the World with all of our international guests,
[00:43:51] through Confederate History Month in April, on through the summer, on through all of the things that this year has thrown at us,
[00:43:59] the criminal convictions, the felony convictions.
[00:44:06] Yeah, and everybody thought Donald was going to jail except for Sam Bushman, right?
[00:44:10] I told you he wasn't going to jail.
[00:44:12] Hey, don't start.
[00:44:15] I told you that he wasn't going to jail, though, didn't I, James?
[00:44:18] I told you he wasn't going to jail.
[00:44:19] You don't send crime bosses to jail, buddy.
[00:44:23] That's why Sam is a nuance here to balance us all out.
[00:44:27] But all of the guests, all of the guests, all of them, the mainstays from the very beginning,
[00:44:33] Kevin McDonald, Jared Taylor, Sam Dixon, all of the others, the remote broadcasts we've done this whole year.
[00:44:41] Thank you.
[00:44:42] For 20 years on the radio, thank you.
[00:44:44] I can't wait for 21.
[00:44:46] I never thought we'd get to 20, so I've never really thought beyond that.
[00:44:49] Since, like, year 17, we've been anticipating the 20th year, and I've never thought what we'll do next week.
[00:44:55] But I guarantee you we'll come up with something, and we've got some good stuff.
[00:44:57] You know who's going to be our first guest of the new year?
[00:44:59] Ron Unz.
[00:45:01] Never before made an appearance on this program, Ron Unz, of the Unz Review.
[00:45:04] I've been lobbying for him for a while to be on that day.
[00:45:07] This guy is an incredible figure.
[00:45:10] I want to play one more clip here before we toss it to Sam Bushman to wrap out our 20th anniversary year.
[00:45:15] But the TPC at 20 retrospective series, this 12-part series, we've announced all of the people we've featured throughout this year.
[00:45:25] I want to give one more segment to Pat Buchanan.
[00:45:30] This was taped the same month he appeared on this program to promote his book, Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War.
[00:45:37] This was at his home in McLean, Virginia.
[00:45:39] Yeah.
[00:45:40] This was Book TV with C-SPAN 2, and what he said in this interview was very similar to what you just heard in the last hour when we revisited his interview with us so many years ago.
[00:45:53] Excuse me, but they're not a parallel.
[00:45:56] But I will say this.
[00:45:57] It is a terrific and provocative book in this sense that it introduces people to the idea that this was not all white hats and black hats.
[00:46:09] But good heavens, look at what Stalin, look at that monster we allied ourselves with.
[00:46:13] You know, as of September 1, 1939, I figured out Hitler's dead deliberately, you can say, from actions he or his regime, Kristallnacht and the Rome purge being the two greatest ones.
[00:46:26] The dead from that were something in the hundreds, probably 300, 400.
[00:46:30] And I've seen estimates by American historians that he probably had 25,000 people in concentration camps like Dachau.
[00:46:39] At that point in time, Stalin's victims probably numbered 10 million dead, include 5 to 9 million Ukrainians, all the people Lenin was executing left and right,
[00:46:51] and Trotsky and these animals were executing and starving, and the democides, as they've been called.
[00:46:58] And here we ally ourselves with this monster to kill Adolf Hitler.
[00:47:04] All right.
[00:47:05] I mean, you know, the thing about it is we've had so many incredible interviews that have been made possible because of this radio network and Sam Bushman and...
[00:47:14] It wouldn't have been made up by anyone else.
[00:47:15] In fact, they weren't made by anyone else.
[00:47:17] We basically cornered the market on this stuff.
[00:47:20] We were there before anyone else.
[00:47:23] So for the last, you know, for 20 years, Sam, we've been here, but for the last 15 years, you have been responsible for it or a part of it or at least a collaborative partner of it.
[00:47:34] And not that you have agreed with us on every word we've ever spoken, but you've always been steadfast.
[00:47:39] I don't need to agree on every word.
[00:47:41] Right?
[00:47:42] The last 10 minutes of this year is yours.
[00:47:44] I don't have to agree with every single thing.
[00:47:46] That isn't important.
[00:47:47] What is important is good people who have a legitimate story to tell have the opportunity to tell that story.
[00:47:56] That's what's critical.
[00:47:56] And I agree with most of what you guys say.
[00:47:58] Maybe not all of it.
[00:47:59] It depends on the person.
[00:48:00] Right?
[00:48:01] I agree more with, for example, James than I do Keith.
[00:48:05] No, I'm just kidding.
[00:48:06] I'm just having fun.
[00:48:07] Look, we all have our own viewpoints, right?
[00:48:11] And we all have our own.
[00:48:12] That's okay.
[00:48:13] And what I'm predicting for 2025 is, look, Liberty News Radio is not a flash in the pan organization.
[00:48:19] You see some of these rock stars get super famous and popular and poof, they're gone.
[00:48:24] Hey, man, I've been in the radio business and the business for 30 years now.
[00:48:28] And I'm not even close to stopping.
[00:48:30] I've probably got more of what I say out in the public than almost any other person alive today.
[00:48:35] And I say that because let the FBI look through what I have to say.
[00:48:39] They claim I'm violent.
[00:48:39] I prove they lie.
[00:48:41] Anyway, but the future of Liberty News Radio is going to be continuing to escalate our efforts.
[00:48:47] Okay?
[00:48:48] And so you think you've seen us grow in the last, you know, 15 plus years since I got ticked off at the previous owner and built my own network overnight.
[00:48:56] You ain't seen nothing yet.
[00:48:58] But I also predict war, James.
[00:49:00] War's coming.
[00:49:01] We're going to be in a war.
[00:49:03] All right.
[00:49:04] Donald's going to pretend to prevent it, but he can't.
[00:49:08] Don't hold off now.
[00:49:09] Yeah.
[00:49:10] No teasers.
[00:49:11] You got to fill it out.
[00:49:12] Yeah.
[00:49:13] Well, we're in 130 plus nations militarily speaking, and we spend more on war every day.
[00:49:17] We spend more on war than all other nations combined.
[00:49:20] And that's not about to change.
[00:49:21] And we've got hot spots everywhere.
[00:49:24] Right?
[00:49:24] And Donald is going to try to go ahead and save TikTok.
[00:49:27] I think you ought to be given the chance.
[00:49:29] But Donald can't avoid these wars.
[00:49:31] We will be drug into them.
[00:49:32] And I pray it doesn't happen, but predict it will.
[00:49:34] Write it down.
[00:49:35] Well, look.
[00:49:36] Why is that?
[00:49:37] That's the big question.
[00:49:38] You know, America is fortunate.
[00:49:40] Because the money changers want war.
[00:49:42] The fortunes.
[00:49:43] You know, we are protected by two large boats called the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean and the polar ice cap.
[00:49:48] There's no reason for us to be involved in any war outside of the Western Hemisphere.
[00:49:53] Well, before we built the Panama Canal, you were right.
[00:49:56] Now that's changed, and they can get over here quite quickly, and the Chinese control it.
[00:50:00] So, you know, things are changing.
[00:50:02] And I'm telling you right now, the money changers want war.
[00:50:06] And the more we take back America, the more they'll go to war because they have no other choice.
[00:50:10] They will not let us take back our country.
[00:50:12] Well, they own the military industrial complex, and they need to sell their products.
[00:50:17] That's right.
[00:50:17] I agree 100%.
[00:50:19] So, you know, I appreciate Donald wanting peace.
[00:50:22] I think he's truly a peaceful guy.
[00:50:23] I don't think he wants war.
[00:50:24] But I think it will be beyond him, and I think he'll be duped into it like he always is.
[00:50:28] We have a stack of about 18 inches of Christmas cards that I had intended and wanted, truly wanted, to read aloud on the air during December.
[00:50:45] It has been a busy month, a busy year.
[00:50:47] I mean, so much has gone on.
[00:50:49] I mean, even tonight, we expected it to slow down a little bit.
[00:50:52] And then you had this MAGA war, Sam, between Elon Musk on X and everybody who voted for Trump, basically.
[00:51:00] Yeah, and Steve Bannon basically called Elon Musk a toddler.
[00:51:04] I mean, it's, you know, the MAGA war.
[00:51:05] Yes.
[00:51:05] So, you know, everybody, you're going to get a lot of things you hope for out of the Trump administration.
[00:51:09] You're going to be disappointed on a lot of things, just like you were the first time, but 10 times more.
[00:51:13] 10 times more extreme.
[00:51:16] That's what's going to happen.
[00:51:17] That's where I don't – well, we'll find out.
[00:51:19] I think this time we'll be disappointed less, but still substantially.
[00:51:22] Good luck.
[00:51:23] We'll see.
[00:51:24] We'll find out soon enough.
[00:51:26] We'll wait up.
[00:51:26] I mean, I'm at this special sweet spot here.
[00:51:29] You know Trump already pushed to increase the debt ceiling, right?
[00:51:30] He's mad at everybody for not giving it to him, right?
[00:51:33] Well, Hillary Clinton is going to be disappointed.
[00:51:36] We will not be controlling the Trump administration, unfortunately.
[00:51:40] I don't think you've got to pick on my wife like that.
[00:51:43] Sam's got the best pick.
[00:51:44] I can send the IRS after you and stuff like that.
[00:51:46] I've got to say, for everyone who made 20 years possible, I thank you.
[00:51:51] We are out of time.
[00:51:52] But the last minute of our 20th anniversary year is to you, Sam Bushman.
[00:51:56] Where does this network go?
[00:51:58] Where do we go?
[00:51:59] Not where Trump goes, not where MAGA goes.
[00:52:01] Where do we go?
[00:52:03] Here's where we go.
[00:52:03] We continue to advocate for our people and our ideas.
[00:52:07] We do so boldly, nobly, and I maintain independently.
[00:52:12] And we get all of our partners and friends and people who love us to support us in every
[00:52:16] way possible so that we can go to the next level.
[00:52:18] And we do this.
[00:52:19] When Trump does something right, we give him absolute support and credit.
[00:52:22] When he does something wrong, we tell the truth.
[00:52:24] We don't pick people.
[00:52:25] We pick principles.
[00:52:26] And we stand by them.
[00:52:27] The first one is the First Amendment.
[00:52:29] And that's why I don't have to agree with James or Keith or they don't have to agree
[00:52:32] with me on everything.
[00:52:33] James thinks I'm nuts on Donald Trump.
[00:52:35] He thinks Donald Trump is the best thing since sliced bread, right?
[00:52:38] Ah, well.
[00:52:39] That's why we just said that.
[00:52:41] That's going too far.
[00:52:43] But the point is, though, that, look, we can have those disagreements in our camp.
[00:52:46] We don't have to be in lockstep like robots.
[00:52:49] We can think what we want.
[00:52:50] This is America, baby.
[00:52:53] I wish Elon Musk had to be on the right side of principles and we'll do our very best to
[00:52:57] grow.
[00:52:58] That's our promise.
[00:52:58] I wish Elon Musk had to take it.
[00:52:59] Every dollar you give us, we promise we'll use it for the right cause, the cause that
[00:53:03] you know we're advocating for.
[00:53:04] Sam, you are actually a degree of separation from some people in the Trump administration.
[00:53:09] We may be a degree beyond that, if not more so.
[00:53:13] How do people support your work?
[00:53:15] Not our work, your work.
[00:53:17] Our collective work, yes, but your work, yes.
[00:53:19] You're right, Jackson.
[00:53:20] Start with a positive number and add zeros.
[00:53:22] Send them in.
[00:53:23] That's how you do it.
[00:53:24] No, I'm just kidding.
[00:53:27] LibertyRoundtable.com is where I've launched my local video or my videos now.
[00:53:31] I've got short videos that I'm doing in addition to the radio show.
[00:53:35] And if you support me there, you can donate there.
[00:53:38] You can get involved there.
[00:53:39] And every penny will be used to promote this network and James's show, by the way.
[00:53:43] We've got one right in mind for you.
[00:53:45] We'll tell you about it.
[00:53:47] I don't know what that means, but we'll tell you about it later.
[00:53:49] So do we send Keith to the inauguration this year, James?
[00:53:52] We went last time.
[00:53:53] Should we send Keith this time?
[00:53:54] Yeah, that's right.
[00:53:55] Keith, get packed.
[00:53:57] Just as long as you don't send me to January 6th.
[00:54:01] Hey, they're working on a different kind of January 6th.
[00:54:03] Now the Democrats want to have their own January 6th.
[00:54:06] That's what I hear.
[00:54:07] I predict war at every turn, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:54:10] They're going to go to war, everyone.
[00:54:12] Only one way to find out.
[00:54:15] Tune in next week.
[00:54:16] Only one way to save us.
[00:54:16] And that's during the God.
[00:54:18] 2025.
[00:54:20] For every guest who has ever appeared on this program for the last 20 years.
[00:54:26] Thank you.
[00:54:27] Whether you're in heaven or still with us, thank you.
[00:54:31] For Sam Bushman, thank you.
[00:54:32] For Keith Alexander, our guest tonight, thank you.
[00:54:34] For Pat Buchanan for giving me a start in this whole thing, thank you.
[00:54:38] 20 years of TPC.
[00:54:41] We'll see you next week.
[00:54:43] God bless.