Activist and political commentator Warren Balogh explains why we should adopt guerrilla warfare tactics to approach electoral politics in the United States.
[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:00:31] Welcome back, everybody. A very unusual night here on TPC, but necessary, I believe. And we will get back to business as usual as the best we can right now with, well, to call Warren Balog, my friend for many years, an activist and a political commentator, wouldn't quite cover it. He has a very extensive background, and we're going to give him a more complete and formal introduction or reintroduction.
[00:00:58] He's been a guest on the show several times. I doubt many people listening don't know who he is. But we will give a full and complete introduction in just a moment, but I want to work him on right now to say hello, Warren. Good to talk to you again, and it was certainly good to see you again last week as you were part of the contingent, the group who met in D.C., and we were able to spend that time together collaborating and reforging all the old bonds.
[00:01:24] Yeah, James, thanks for having me on again, and yes, it was great seeing you. I just, for anybody who doesn't know, hasn't heard this story a million times, James and I were both delegates to the Reform Party Convention in 2000 when we were, I think, 18. You're like, what? You're a little less than a year older than me. I was 18 at the time. My birthday was April of 1982.
[00:01:49] Yeah, so I'm June 22, 1980. So when I started working for Pat, I was 19. But at that nominating convention for the Reform Party that year in Long Beach, that just happened to fall in August of 2000, so I had just turned 20. Okay, so that's why I was wondering why I never met you, because when you're that age, that, like, two years is a big difference. Yeah, it's like, you know...
[00:02:16] You organized the conference in Nashville that I was at, but I never, we never, I just never shook your hand. We never connected. But we did, I mean, of course, I had known, I knew who you were years later. I mean, I knew about the political cesspool. I'd seen your picture on the Internet. I think the American Freedom Party had a little profile of you. And then, yeah, a few, I don't know, what was it, five years ago or so, we met at an event and got talking and then found out we had this connection.
[00:02:43] And then James and I have just been great, great friends ever since. So it's... Well, you know, Warren... I always say, go, Pat, go when I see you. It's our little thing, because my dad and I have this joke about go, Pat, go for the audience. We screamed that at that convention, all of us, the whole crowd, till we were hoarse. So every time anybody would say anything, it was, go, Pat, go! Go, Pat, go! So if you remember, if you were there, you remember.
[00:03:10] Well, it was sort of like Netanyahu getting 50 standing ovations in his 50-minute speech. Anytime Pat would say anything, it was, go, Pat, go! Yeah, exactly. Hitler didn't get that many Sieg Heils. Let's put it that way. It became go, Pat, go! Pat Buchanan. It's crazy. Well, it was a lot more heartfelt than the ones B.B. got, I think, from... Oh, yeah. Definitely. No one was paying us. We were paying to be there. We weren't getting paid to be there.
[00:03:38] That is a very good distinction, Warren. We paid to be there. We paid to work on that campaign. But, my God, I mean, it was... Well, I mean, it was a year that changed my life. And, yeah, so at that time, I mean, we were there together, but we didn't meet. And the mind does play tricks now, as I tell people all the time, as we get into this age now, Warren, that we're at this middle age with a full nest at the house. The years do tend to blur.
[00:04:06] That was actually the first time we met, although I had, as you just mentioned, had known you by reputation by the time we met. But the actual... When we first met, it was at least... It was pre-COVID. It was either 18 or 19. It was in Chattanooga. I remember the meeting. That's great, yeah. But it was actually a little longer than even you recall. But nevertheless, and then instantly, just an instant... Well, I mean, I'd already thought highly of you by reputation. And then when we made the Buchanan connection, I mean, the rest was history.
[00:04:36] And fast friends ever since. And anyway, you talked, you gave a speech at this gathering of other thought leaders and activists that we were convening with in D.C., very, very off the record. I mean, it wasn't a public event. It wasn't anything anybody could have come to. It was just a collection of activists getting together to brainstorm and make plans.
[00:05:01] Anyway, you gave an absolutely spellbinding talk that I thought was so good. I was thinking, you know, if we could just air this whole thing on the radio, that would give me a solid hour of content. So what I'm going to ask you to do in a moment is basically break down your talk in a made for radio condensed version. Because what it's going to talk about, what he talked about, folks, was how we can and
[00:05:26] should adopt guerrilla warfare tactics to our approach in electoral politics in the United States. So Warren's going to talk about that in just a moment. But first, and going back to the first hour, Warren, and you mentioned your dad, and I was talking about mine in the first hour and other men who have played an incredible role in my life. I had had the opportunity to meet your dad before at an event in Louisville a few years ago. But he was with you last week.
[00:05:56] And we had the chance, I had the opportunity, the honor, really, to reconnect with him and talk to him again. Let's just talk a little bit, if you can, about just, as you put it, being a second generation advocate for this cause. But just the role that family and strong men play in the development of not only families, but of healthy societies. Well, James, just this afternoon, The Godfather was on television and I was watching Marlon
[00:06:24] Brando say, man, who doesn't spend time with his father cannot be a real man. Doesn't spend time with his children is not a real man. And I think it's funny that so many Americans love that movie because even though it's about gangsters, Americans like it because a big part of it is it's about family. And this is something that I think Jews know completely. I mean, their entire nepotistic network for thousands of years is based on this. And it's something, you know, The Godfather is kind of looking at the underworld side of it.
[00:06:54] But it's something that was true for a lot of white Americans. It was true for a lot of immigrant families, Irish, Italians. But it was also true for, you know, like old Southern Anglo-Saxons. I mean, the family. This is such an important thing. And it's something that is really individualism and modernism and the consumerism of the 20th century and all the terrible social effects, all, you know, the breaking up of our of our white urban ethnic communities, forced integration, so many different things.
[00:07:23] No fault divorce, you know, second wave feminism. I could just go on and on and on and on with the things that have broken this down. And one thing that with white people in America is we're at this disadvantage where we don't pass on knowledge and skills from one generation to another. There's a lot of distance between generations. You know, the old boomers, a lot of them, unfortunately, try to get their kids out and make them make their own way on their own. And then you have the phenomenon of someone's elderly parents get ill.
[00:07:53] And instead of the family looking after them, you put them right in a nursing home. Other races don't do this. And a lot of them, including the Indians that are taking over America right now and taking over the South, they don't do this. They all I mean, they can be awful people in a lot of ways, but they still follow the tried and true methods of ancient times of families kind of staying working together, passing knowledge on from one generation to another. So that's how I introduced my talk is just saying that.
[00:08:19] But well, I said it the night before, but but that I don't know how I mean, people respect me. They respect my views. But I might be a shitlib for all I know if if I was I mean, I may just be completely nonpolitical. I mean, I might be just some guy that does whatever. You know, I like art. I like music. There's a lot of things I'm interested in without that are not politics. So if I didn't have the example, both of my father's character, his integrity, his good
[00:08:48] example as a man. So he's someone I always respected and looked up to as a as a kid. I like I always say about my dad. He combined the two qualities that I think a man should be. He was strong. He was a strong man, but he was also good. He was someone that he stood up for what was right. He was a good father. He's good. Good still is a good, good, good husband. And so I respected his character and I looked up to him and I still do.
[00:09:13] But he also, though, had his interest in his knowledge and his experiences he'd accumulated over the years. He was the original guy in our line that got red pilled. I never really I was born red pilled in a sense. So I had a huge leg up. I had a huge advantage. And if you look at some of the most successful people in history or just successful people in our society, a lot of times it's second generation, third generation people. You learn from you. You've been you grew up in the business, so to speak.
[00:09:43] And so you don't have to make all your mistakes fresh. So I always have to credit him with that. You know, when I started out with politics, I already had this base level of knowledge and understanding. And, you know, I've developed over the years through conversations, our worldview. We've tried different things. And it's just it's invaluable. And I see all these young guys today that are involved in our stuff, our thing. And I'm really happy to see so many of them with little kids, because I think there are a lot of kids out there that will have my experience.
[00:10:12] They will grow up knowing this stuff ahead of time. They won't have to red pill themselves or discover it themselves or make all kinds of stupid mistakes through trial and error. Well, you know, I gave the story. I told the story earlier this year about how at my son's Boy Scout camp after the Scout Master had given a totally PC version of the war between the states, what he called the Civil War, the boys broke into camps. And my son was the only Confederate. They sent him a medic.
[00:10:42] It was him, verse 20. Michael Hill said, well, we should dominate with those odds. But I mean, it made me so proud. I want to talk to Warren a little bit more about the impact of strong fathers and strong father figures when we come back. And then we get to his talk. I want to stay on this just a little bit longer. I think it's very, very, very important. And it ties in with the theme of the night. Find your inner rebel at Dixie Republic, the world's largest Confederate store, located in Traveler's Rest, South Carolina.
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[00:13:05] Well, I've told this story before, so I won't retell it in its entirety. But as I just mentioned, my son was the only one of his group of, what, you know, 20 young, white, southern boys to go to the Confederate line when they played war. Or after this PC lesson on the so-called Civil War. By the way, I mean, Warren, talking about your dad, you and your dad had the chance to come down here to Tennessee
[00:13:32] from West Virginia and meet with Gene Andrews and tour the Nathan Bedford Forrest Boyhood Home and get that behind-the-scenes tour. These are the things that my family was with me when Forrest was buried for the final time. You know, I don't remember how many times he's been reburied now. But we were there in his casket. We were right two feet away from the casket that held the remains of General Nathan Bedford Forrest. And so, you know, there's no doubt, certainly there is no doubt,
[00:14:02] that had I not raised my family in this way, my son would have been on the Union lines, too, if they had the Boy Scouts thing. I guess they would have been skirmishing with each other. But, you know, and you can't overcome bad parenting and absentee parenting. You can overcome that and still find the right conclusions. But, you know, I've told this story many times.
[00:14:30] We were talking the first hour about my pastor when my grandfather was dying at Vanderbilt. And my dad was with him at Vanderbilt. I'm sure I've told you this story before, Warren, but I'll tell it again now. My dad sees, well, I told you this just this last week, and so I know I've told you, but I think I told you even before then. My dad sees this group gathering on the yard there, the campus there at Vanderbilt,
[00:14:58] because the hospital's there at the campus. And he sees this group gathering, and he goes down, and there's a presidential candidate that's going to be giving a talk. He listens to it, and he comes home. This is in 91, early 92. And he tells me, and I'm still a young boy at that time. I'm 11, 12 years old. He said, I just met the man that I hope becomes president. I said, who was he? He said his name was Pat Buchanan.
[00:15:28] That one utterance, Warren, changed my life. Absolutely changed my life. And I've said before, I said, how would my life have looked if it had been Dane Quayle there that day? But I mean, these are the things. All right. So you can't overcome it. How important is it that you have these manly figures in your life as boys and for society writ large? Oh, I mean, it's everything.
[00:15:58] It really – and, you know, there are people who don't have it who turn out – they turn out fine. I mean, sometimes if you don't have sort of a father figure or mentor – I mean, for my father, he had a – my grandfather was a very good man. He worked hard all his life, but he wasn't that political. But when my dad was a young man around that same age – and I think, you know, I know he's been on your show before.
[00:16:25] I don't know if he ever told this story, but you could get him to tell the full story at some point. But there was an older – an East European guy that moved in next door who was actually the first guy who ever told him that Hitler was a good person because he had an East European perspective. You know, he was very anti-communist and all this. But he also – his brother had been a Mr. Universe, and that's his back when it was all natty, you know, when there was no steroids.
[00:16:55] This was before that. But – and so my dad, he could tell you, he was a skinny kind of a goofy kid. I mean, I don't know how goofy he was, but he was skinny and not very confident at that age. You know, however – I don't know what he was, 12, 13, 14. And this guy got him lifting weights because he knew about weightlifting. He knew about boxing. He got him lifting weights and boxing and built up his confidence and also introduced him to all these kind of political ideals
[00:17:23] that opened his mind on things that he had not been exposed to. So he had a mentor figure. It just wasn't – in this type of thing, it wasn't his father. And, of course, my grandfather was a very good man and a good father to him. But he had a mentor. And you can be a great man and not be an around-the-clock activist like we are. I mean, you know, that should go without saying two. Exactly, yeah. Right. So it's important to have a mentor figure.
[00:17:51] And sometimes there's a lot of guys in our thing I know who didn't have that, who don't have that. And sometimes, you know, there's a lot of divorced parents and stuff, especially my generation, our generation. But, you know, you develop then on your own. You develop certain strengths you're forced to making your way in the world. But it's just so much easier and better if you have a masculine mentor figure to kind of shape your worldview and give you a role model. And, you know, it's interesting what you say about your father there
[00:18:21] because a lot of my interest in this stuff grew not so much from my dad, you know, celebrating a Hitler's birthday party or his interest in the Civil War. He always was interested in Civil – I mean, we went to Civil War. I saw a great photo, by the way, you sent me of your dad. I guess it was back in the 70s wearing a Nathan Bedford Forrest T-shirt. And hanging out with John Tyndall. That's what I said to that friend of ours from England. He was in the room with John Tyndall. Yes, exactly.
[00:18:50] He actually had those T-shirts printed. Forrest, you know, of course, Forrest is my middle name, even though we're not Southern by any means. But Dad respected General Forrest. So that's my connection to him is the namesake. But what I was going to say was my dad always had an – he took an interest in politics. He was following what was going on in the world and watching the news and really paying attention to what's happening.
[00:19:15] And that also awakened something in me because it wasn't simply like, okay, well, here's what to think. Or, oh, I'm a white nationalist. I'm in this cult of white nationalism or something like that. It was more just that a man's part is to take an interest in current affairs and politics and power struggle and war and what's going on in the world. That that is what men do. You know, men follow those things and are interested in those things and discuss them and think about them.
[00:19:44] And that's a huge part of it, I think, is just to see that. Because I think in a healthy society, I mean, that's what – thinking men should be tuned into what's going on. So, yeah, that's interesting. It wasn't simply that your father mentioned Pat Buchanan. I think if I had to guess, it's just that your father was interested in that. That in itself suggests something like, okay, here's something my dad's thinking about. Why is he thinking about this, you know?
[00:20:13] Well, I mean, certainly I knew that we were, quote, unquote, conservatives, you know, growing up. Even at that age, at 10, 11, 12 years old, I knew that we were conservatives. I knew that we, you know, took pride in our Confederate ancestry. I knew all of that. But, I mean, you know, at that age, how many boys at 10, 11, 12 have already begun to really critically – apply critical thinking to politics and, you know, the bigger questions? I mean, not many. I knew that we were on the right, but, you know, not much else had ever crossed my mind.
[00:20:42] And then it was actually a couple of weeks later, we had gone on a trip to Fairfield Bay, Arkansas. I took my dad back, my mom and dad and – well, my whole family went, but I took them back, too, to Fairfield Bay. I – because this is the core memory that I do recall. And it was – we were sitting at this little bowling alley in Fairfield Bay, and it was just a couple of weeks after dad had seen Pat speak. And he was talking to the – it was four lanes, tiny little town on Greer's Ferry Lake in Arkansas.
[00:21:13] And he said, you know, I'm a Buchanan supporter. I'm going to vote for Buchanan. And this old guy who ran the bowling alley, he said, I like Buchanan, but, you know, he can't win. And I remembered that forever, and I don't know why, Warren, there was no reason why a boy of my age at that time would remember it. But I've told this story. This is the story I have told so many times, and that is that years later, you fast forward to 1999. I'm flipping through the channels. I find Crossfire. I see Pat Buchanan on the crayon. And I said, this is the guy.
[00:21:43] I remember dad talking about this guy when I was a kid. Started watching him. He launched the campaign. The rest is history. Yeah. That's interesting. So, I mean, again, there's a reason that they want to rewrite history. There's a reason they want to take down the monuments. There's a reason they want to corrupt every institution, media, academia, the churches. We were talking about my pastor the first hour. There's a reason they want to do all of this.
[00:22:09] They want to take away the righteous examples. Patrick Claiborne, the general Patrick Claiborne from Arkansas. Claiborne County is right there on Grish Ferry Lake. There's a reason they want to do these things. You know, and there's a reason why we need to preserve these things. So, again, when we come back, we're going to talk about your talk in Washington last week.
[00:22:31] But, you know, again, to see your dad, you and your dad together that weekend, which was just a little bit after I'd heard the news about my pastor. And it just meant so much. I'd met your dad before. Respect the hell out of him. But to see you and your dad together just brought back all these memories. It is a special thing. It is really something.
[00:22:53] I mean, a final word on that, on how our audience should be engaging with their families and with their kids and with their fathers. You know, whatever age their fathers may be. Yeah, well, I just, the most important thing, because people always ask me, they always say to me, okay, well, Warren, you know, you turned out all right. Pretty good. Relatively all right. What did your dad do right? And how can I raise my kids? And I always say, I think don't push this stuff too hard.
[00:23:22] I still think you should push it, though. I mean, I definitely think you should make your kids know what you think is right and wrong and why you think it. You should discuss things with your kid as they, especially as they begin to ask questions. You shouldn't try to hide anything. But I also think that the most important thing, this is the most important thing, is that you model the kind of character that you want them to have, that you be the thing that you are, that you believe in.
[00:23:50] If you have a high ideal or you have a system of beliefs, a worldview, you need to live that around your kids from the beginning as best you can. And be someone that they look up to and respect. And for little boys, they're going to look to you as their role model, first and foremost. For little girls, they're going to look to you for, they're going to measure other men that they meet later in life. They're going to measure them against their dad.
[00:24:17] You know, so if you are, you know, an intelligent, strong, brave, loyal, honorable, thinking man, fighting man, you fight up, stand up for what you believe in. That's the kind of person that they're going to look to for their role model or the kind. And that's that you can do that better than you can by trying to protect them from evil influences or, you know, threaten them that if they do this, you're going to get going to get in trouble. You've got to be the thing. Set the example. Lead by example. We'll be right back.
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[00:30:11] but sometimes the very best of a three-hour broadcast of TPC takes place during the break. Warren, we're going to transition into your talk now, but without giving away exactly what we were talking about, maybe you would want to conclude the last 30 minutes, which was a tie-in to the first hour, before we segue into what we're about to cover, with what we were talking about the last couple of minutes. I don't know if you can do that without giving away any sensitive information,
[00:30:38] but I'd like to give you the opportunity to put a capstone on that portion of the conversation. Just basically that, you know, I have comrades and friends who have, I mean, I've got a young daughter. She's a toddler. So I'm not, you know, I started with my family late in life. So it'll be a while before my kids are of age where they're going to be dating and looking for a partner and all that. I, you know, I have trepidation about that because I see, you know,
[00:31:07] plenty of cases where things don't turn out, where it seems like everybody did everything right. But I do, I have seen examples, let's put it that way, of men who really are good men set a strong example for their daughters. And then when their daughters do start to date, they find they're encountering guys who maybe have different views, who have more liberal views or whatever, anti-white views or just bad ideas. And where the girls just don't, won't have anything to do with them
[00:31:36] because they have the example of their father, you know, and that's their guide. And so that's a beautiful thing when you see that. Yes, absolutely. And again, it's never an exact science. You can do everything right. They turn out wrong. You can do everything wrong. They turn out right. But if given the choice, I think the odds are in your favor if you raise them right. And we'll take our chances with that every day. Well, that having been said,
[00:32:04] and now tying in the first hour with the first 30 minutes of this hour and Warren and his dad being together and just this whole conversation that we've been having tonight with strong figures in your life, whether it be your father, your grandfather, your pastor, whomever, let's transition now into your talk, Warren. I just thought it was fascinating. There were so many takeaways, and we're always talking about how we can advance. Should we engage in politics?
[00:32:33] Should we engage in parallel community building? All of the above. You know, and as I say, my position is all of it and all at once. Engage in politics. Engage in infiltration. Engage in building your own organizations and your own media. Engage in parallel communities. Engage in it all. Because there's not going to be one message, one course of action that's going to fit for everyone. So we need to have our people everywhere,
[00:33:01] including in the arts and elsewhere. But you mentioned that we should adopt guerrilla warfare tactics in our approach to electoral politics. That was one of the foundational planks of your talk. But just break it down for us however you please. Sure. Well, basically, James, there's a couple of things. First of all, I really view our struggle as white Americans,
[00:33:28] as a revolutionary struggle in this country. Like even if you don't see yourself as a revolutionary, even if you see yourself as a true constitutionalist, you want to return to what the founders did and you view them. I mean, even if that's your view, we are still in essentially a revolutionary position because our country, our entire government and system has been usurped by alien usurpers. So that puts us into a sort of revolutionary position, whether we want to be or not.
[00:33:56] And there's two ways of achieving a revolutionary change of power. One is through, what I said in my talk was ballots or bullets, either by armed force or by electoral change, that type of thing, popular movements, or maybe, you know, depends, maybe even something like a, what do you call it, a mass, a general strike or things like that, but nonviolent means. But still persuading the public to vote and vote in elections and try to change things legislatively in that way.
[00:34:26] And I think that a lot of our people, rightly, they say, oh, well, we can't get anywhere in politics. There's no difference between the two political parties. I totally disagree with this, though. I think we should absolutely be trained up and organized and working electoral campaigns and involved in politics, especially at the local level. But I've always felt this way. I think we are woefully behind as a movement with this. But it's how you think about it where people get caught up.
[00:34:53] People think of it in terms of that the two paths are either we try to vote harder to get the results or vote Republican or pick, you know, George Bush versus Al Gore or whatever and put our faith in the system. Or we plan for the big revolution or the collapse or whatever. And I've been – I got on to recently reading about Mao Zedong. Now, of course, Mao Zedong was a horrible person, did terrible things as leader of China.
[00:35:21] But as a revolutionary, just as a revolutionary, he's a very interesting character. And there were some parallels between his situation in China and our situation as white Americans that are striking. One of them – and again, this is a much larger subject. I've been covering it on my show on Substack. So I'll try to sum it up because I'm sure some of your listeners are scratching their heads at this point. Some of the differences or some of the similarities is,
[00:35:48] one, China is a very large country just like the United States. The United States is a geographically huge country. So a lot of the tactics of revolutionary struggle that worked in places like Italy and Germany are not going to work in the United States because we're so big and rural and spread out, a lot of it. Another one, though, is that Mao – Marxist-Leninist doctrine said you have to organize the urban proletariat, the workers in the cities. You've got to organize them. And this was the party line in Moscow.
[00:36:17] But Mao found because of various reasons he could not work in the cities. He couldn't organize in the cities. He couldn't operate there. So he had to go – he was forced to go out into the countryside and organize the peasants. Now, we don't have the same type of rural peasant situation that Mao did in China a hundred years ago. But we do have a white population that has largely been spread out in the suburbs and in the countryside. And all the reddest districts in America, the whitest districts, also happen to be the most rural districts.
[00:36:45] And all the most populated, concentrated districts are non-white. And that was done that way by design. I mean, whites were driven out of the cities. I gave a talk on this years ago how whites were essentially expelled from the white urban ethnic neighborhoods. And part of why they did this is it's harder to organize. But we have to find ways of organizing our people out there in the hinterland. Now, another thing that I got from reading about Mao, because he wrote a book on guerrilla warfare,
[00:37:14] is that the people that think that this is all going to come down to a fight, the bullets rather than balance, they're deluding themselves if they think that that means you can't win over the people. A lot of reason why people don't want to do elections is they hate the idea of going out, knocking on doors, talking to people, talking to people in their neighborhoods and their communities. They would rather have their little fringe group, their compound or whatever, or cling together, or be online in their little silo of fellow extremists or whatever, white nationals or whatever you want to call it.
[00:37:45] And they are afraid of, or they don't want to be bothered by contact with regular people. But the reality is, you read what Mao said about guerrilla warfare, and by the way, this was the manual that Ho Chi Minh used to organize the Vietnamese, and also Castro used to organize the Cubans into successful revolutions. You have to get out there among your people to win a guerrilla war. You have to win over the people even more than you do in an election campaign.
[00:38:14] Because an election campaign, you can kind of coast by on just, you know, a name recognition and splash around a little money and, you know, enough people, low turnout election, people don't turn up, and you eke out a victory with just a few. But if it's a guerrilla war, you got to have the love and the support of the people. You have to get out there among them. And so he had a real idea about how to do that, and was able to do that. And this is part of why he was able to organize resistance against the Japanese,
[00:38:42] and then later against the nationalists in China. So this is stuff that we can learn from that, again, not in ideology, but certainly in revolutionary struggle. We have to broaden, I think, the way we see things. And the reason these lessons apply to politics, this is the other thing I'll sum up, is that Mao was a big student of Klaus Fitz, of all people. Klaus Fitz, who was a Prussian reformer, reformer, rather, in Napoleon's time. Klaus Fitz was a huge German nationalist.
[00:39:13] But Mao studied him, because Klaus Fitz had such a great theory of war, and Klaus Fitz developed an idea called people's war. And the people's war is basically when a whole people gets mobilized. He looked at the example of the French in the French Revolution, and how they were able to beat, once the whole country was mobilized, how they were able to beat the sort of professional armies around Europe, like old Prussia. But then also, he looked to the people's struggle of the Spanish,
[00:39:42] who rose up against the French. They had a guerrilla war against the French occupation, when Napoleon invaded, and the Russians also, when Napoleon invaded Russia. And then finally, he brought that back to Germany. And this is some of the origins of German nationalism, when they tried to get the German people to rise up in what they called the Wars of Liberation, 1813, against the French Napoleon's occupation. And he saw the value and the power of mobilizing a whole people in a national,
[00:40:11] sort of a national liberation struggle. So Mao really didn't, this wasn't a communist thing. This was something he got from a German nationalist thinker from 100 years before him. And Klaus Fitz's famous dictum, of course, is war is policy, or war is politics by other means. Well, Mao reversed it and thought politics is war by other means. So I think this is how the attitude we have to have when we, and I can give specifics after the next break, but the attitude we have to have when we engage with the electoral system,
[00:40:40] we're not just hoping it works out, we elect another Republican or a conservative. We have to be engaging in it to disrupt and destroy and break up and rally our people with this system. That's what we're going to get into next. One segment remaining with Warren Bailog, activist, commentator, philosopher. We'll be right back. Stay tuned. Hey folks, it's your friend, Harry Cooper here. You know, it always feels like home when I'm on this show
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[00:42:58] We'll make mention of this very quickly. And that is that one of our fellow travelers, Mr. Lou Moore, has also been one of the guys who has quoted Mao
[00:43:27] in a lot of his political commentaries and for reasons very, well, not very similar, but almost exactly similar to what Warren is talking about now. So, and I, you know, we had talked about that, Warren, and you had known that. And you find that interesting as we continue on with your presentation from the gathering last week. Well, the Ron Paul campaign, the original Ron Paul campaign was a true people's war. It was. I mean, it was a people's war.
[00:43:56] Again, I remember, I mean, I'm not a libertarian at all. I'm as far from libertarianism as you get philosophically, politically. But, but at the same time, I remember those years. I remember that campaign and the Ron Paul money bombs. I mean, that started something that then Obama then later used. He copied it. But the idea of small donors all pooling their resources on the same day to be able to raise the kind of money that had never been done before. And Ron Paul also,
[00:44:25] that became the focal point of resistance to the Iraq war because at that time the Democratic Party was still totally defending the war. So it became the place where all the, and that's a great example, James, of what I'm talking about by political guerrilla warfare. It's, we have to engage with the electoral system to disrupt the agenda of the ruling power and also to build our own. I just, if I could interrupt just very quickly just to ask this, that is to say then
[00:44:54] that you are in favor of continued engagement in the political process because there are some very good friends of ours who say, you know, that part of the whole game is over and we need to wait for what's next and set out engaging in politics. Absolutely. I mean, if you look at history, first of all, when there is a collapse, when there's a catastrophic collapse of the system, the groups that take advantage, that fill the gap are always the ones that were the most organized.
[00:45:24] So this is how the communists won in China. They were the most organized. They had been for years. If you look at even the National Socialists, I mean, when the big, when the, because the Depression, things were getting better in Germany in the late 1920s, but in the election of 1930, everything got much worse again because of the 1929 market crash and the communists picked up some votes but the NSDAP exploded in numbers. They went from, I forget what it was, they like, like eight times
[00:45:54] the number of votes that they had previously gotten and it's because they had been there, they had been organized, they had been out among their people and, you know, other examples, the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt during the Arab Spring. The group that took down Mubarak at that time was a coalition of all kinds of different groups including communists, including nationalists, including all, but the group that dominated those elections briefly until, you know, they had a counter coup and got them out was the Muslim Brotherhood and it's because they were the most organized.
[00:46:24] So, I think that we can't wait for the collapse to start organizing. Like, DSA is out there right now and I have to, I only have admiration for how they're doing and how they're going around. They're doing it the old-fashioned way, door-knocking and community organizing. I mean, we laugh at that, community organizing and our thing. We shouldn't laugh at that at all. I mean, we have white communities all over this country. You and I both know people who are going out there who have done what I'm talking about, have gone out there among their, and you've certainly done plenty of it, James,
[00:46:53] in your life. You've done plenty of ballot access petitioning. Right now, people have never been more ready for our ideas, James. Everyone knows white people are under attack. Any conservative Republican voter, it's either a question of they know it and they don't care or they know it and no one's doing anything about it. Also, though, Zionism and Jewish power. We've never had a moment like this in our lives, in my father's life, I don't think ever, when more people are aware of that. So our views
[00:47:22] are actually accepted by, I mean, a lot of times you have a conversation with a normal person and you find they're more radical than you are on some of these questions. So now is the time to get out there and get involved and starting by going the way I've been advising people is start by getting involved in your local community. Go to local city council meetings. Go to local scoreboard meetings. Go to, you know, just get off the internet and out there among your people. Then, if there's a candidate that you can support, sometime,
[00:47:52] maybe an anti-Zionist candidate, maybe a Democrat sometimes too, depending on, you know, I'm not tied to the Republican Party by any means. It may be an independent. It may be a third party person, a guy like Thomas Massey. Maybe you can get involved with their campaign and help them out and thereby, just as you and I met through the Buchanan campaign or at least we found ourselves in that campaign together, you know, as well as I do, as well as anybody, that campaigns like what Buchanan did are magnets for the right kind of people
[00:48:21] and that's how you meet them and network with them and build ties. so, so, so I think, I think that idea of that we gotta just wait, what that comes from is people say, oh, we're not gonna vote our way out of this or they're all corrupt or this or that but really, it's not that you have an alternate plan because if you had, if your plan is that we're gonna take power by force, you better be doubling out there among your communities because like I said, that's the experience
[00:48:50] of all successful revolutions, even, I mean, we talked about, we're talking about guerrilla warfare, why are we talking about Mao? Let's talk about Nathan Bedford Forrest. How was the Klan able to operate in the, I mean, that was really the situation the Klan was in at that time was sort of like the Chinese under the Japanese occupation. I mean, they were occupied, the first Klan, but they had the support of their people, James, that's the thing. They had the support of the local people on the local level
[00:49:20] and that's how they were able to operate under those conditions where if, if the, if the occupation Union occupation forces found you had Klan robes and, I mean, Gene Andrews told me they would hang you for that. So that's, that's a great example of how it's more important to gain the support of the local people if, if you, so that's why I say there's no circumstance where we can't go out where we, we can just sit on our hands, sit on the internet, be entertained listening to podcasts. Of course, you know, do all those things
[00:49:49] and listen to podcasts, listen to your show, my show, but I think all of our people, if they can, need to be out there among their own communities and also working to, like I say, sometimes it may be a defensive thing like someone is, there's a local shit lib trying to do drag queen story hour in your library or they're trying to bring immigrants in or, or, or, or the section eight housing. That's a local fight you can get involved in, you can rally people against that,
[00:50:19] but it may also be an offensive thing. For instance, the boycott, vest and sanction movement, a lot of cities have passed local ordinances where they're saying our city is not going to, our town is not going to, is not going to have anything to do with Israel or Israeli contracts. That puts them on the defensive and then there's other things like that, of course, that you can do, but there's so many opportunities right now. I think we should all be doing it and I think we need to catch up to where the left is on this because DSA is, I mean, they're not, you know,
[00:50:49] they're not necessarily going to win, but they're really ahead of the game with a lot of this. I mean, this, I was looking at this, what's her name? Evalu Chavez woman. She won in the Bronx. She's like an Afro-Latino former community organizer and, you know, of course, she's many things that we would not, we would consider on the other side, but the fact is she's like a total anti-Zionist and she beat a very well-entrenched Zionist Democrat
[00:51:18] who was a big upset. I mean, this woman's a true believer. Like, she's not our friend, she's not one of our people. She doesn't have to be, she's representing a district that's not our people, but she represents a grassroots person that got elected who beat the Zionists in her own backyard. There's no reason, James, why we shouldn't be doing that in so-called red districts, in rural Michigan, rural Maryland, you know, rural Tennessee. We can be electing white people,
[00:51:48] Christians, you know, nationalists, conservatives who are anti-Israel, who are pro-our people, who are, you know, against all the things that we're against. And, you know, the last thing I'll just say about this is a large-scale version of what I'm talking about is these upcoming primaries. I mean, I think all the primaries where there's an anti-Zionist candidate support them, like Thomas Massey. But when the general comes, I mean, there's many, many Democrats that I would vote for
[00:52:17] over the Republican in the general election, not because I like the Democrats or I agree with them, but because I want to see this war brought to an end. And if Trump loses control of Congress, this war will come crashing to a halt, and then we will see new opportunities then open in both the Republican for anti-war, anti-Zionist candidates. Some of them will be anti-white on the left, certainly. Some of them will be pro-white with our people, people like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
[00:52:46] But I think we need to be, no matter what you think, though, we need to be engaged and we need to be out there. And I just don't think there's any excuses for not being. What a great, great, great presentation. This is a little bit of what we got last weekend. And Warren, thank you for making it available in a more condensed version, I guess, but no less powerful here on the radio tonight. And so, yes, engage in politics,
[00:53:16] engage in the other things too, community building, organization building, media building. But right now, the game is played at the ballot box. Let's face it. And so we should not abandon that post. And Warren gives us good reason for not doing so. And Warren, I said before that I'd give you a proper introduction. Time has run out for that. I was going to actually read the introduction that I read before your talk last weekend. But we certainly want to give them an opportunity to learn where to find you and where they can tune in
[00:53:46] to your program. Well, all I got to do is search my name on Substack. Go sub, and I'm at Warren Balog. My last name is Hungarian. It's spelled B-A-L-O-G-H, Balog. Warren Balog, you find me on Substack. I'm doing a show now. I've been doing it for about three months. It's called Modern Politics Radio. It's a solo podcast. I do it, it's about three hours a week. It is paywalled. I think it's $8 a month if you sign up. And I do one show a week.
[00:54:16] But I've been covering all these topics at length, always covering current affairs, and always digging into political theory and strategy. So if you want to hear me talk about this more, like I say, I don't mind that it's all paywall because I'm kind of keeping it for people who are ready for this and want to think about it. And of course, I've got to earn a living like all of us. But that's where you can find me right now. And I'm also on Telegram. If you just search Warren Balog, you can find me on Telegram. I was on Twitter. I've been kicked off for a little while on Twitter. Tell me about it.
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