Radio Show Hour 2 – 2026/08/08

[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.

[00:00:32] Great hour with Lou Moore. I mean, you can't do it any better than that. And we're back now, and Keith and I are going to take an hour into ourselves before we get into a very interesting book discussion in the third hour. Kerry Bolton has a new book out about colonization or decolonization, and we're going to talk about it. We're going to go back in history. We're going to go back in time in the third hour.

[00:00:56] But first, we're going to talk about this newspaper article that appeared back in 2008. A listener in Kentucky emailed me a printed copy of it several months ago, and I've been waiting to work this in for a while. It details a wild TPC conference from some years ago, the last time we tried to do a publicly announced conference. And this is what cured us of that.

[00:01:25] We're going to revisit that story. Keith and I will revisit that story. We're going to provide some teachable moments that offer perspective and tie into our recent discussions about trends and current trajectory. But let me just tell you, I just want to say something. My wife was on last week with Kim, our friend. They did the third hour about homeschooling.

[00:01:47] And I'm going to give you a quick announcement, but also give you just a glimpse into a day in the life of your humble correspondence. So this is how it was yesterday. So Sam Dixon, I needed to talk to Sam about a few things. Sam had actually called me yesterday morning. And I was getting ready to drive down to Bahalia, Mississippi, Keith. Now, local listeners will know where Bahalia is. It's about an hour south of Memphis. I had to go down there to pick up my car.

[00:02:16] He was getting service down there. And I told Sam I'd call him when I got in the car. Well, this is what happened when I got in the car. As soon as I got in the car, I got a call from Eric Orwall of Return to the Land. And he had some business to discuss. And Eric and I talked for a few minutes. And while I was on the phone with Eric, I had missed a call from a friend and supporter of TPC who lives out in Nevada,

[00:02:41] who was asking for more information about the conference in Wetumpka, Alabama next week, where we'll be broadcasting live from. Called him back. And then Mark Weber. Mark Weber and Greg Johnson. I needed to talk to them. And with Greg, we're actually going to be offering as a fundraising incentive next month for the third quarter, the September third quarter fundraising drive. We're going to be doing signed copies.

[00:03:11] You can only get them here through TPC, but signed copies of Roger Devlin's new book, brand new book, Not Hooking Up. And so I was sealing that deal with Greg. Then you just heard from Lou Moore. So there is a forum up in Michigan that I have spoken to twice. The last time was spring of last year. Since then, Steve King and Peter Brimlow have spoken there. And I arranged that for the group. And they want to Lou Moore.

[00:03:38] And so I called this guy, called the proprietor of the forum back, John Mangopolis. He's a TV host up in Michigan. Great guy. Called him back. And then I needed to Salty Sid Secular. You know Salty Sid? Oh, absolutely. He's on the old crew. A listener in Texas is going to be traveling to Croatia on Monday for a month with his wife. So I was getting him in touch with Tom Sunich.

[00:04:07] This is all within one afternoon. And then I finally got to call Sam Dixon back last night about nine o'clock. And we talked for an hour and a half. But that's one day. That's one day. Now, not every day is that busy. But listen, that was the one thing the SPLC was right about. We are a nexus. Maybe the nexus.

[00:04:29] I don't know of anybody that's as well plugged in and has good relations with every arm of our cause than TBC. We work well with others. But it is... Smile every chance we get. There's a lot going on. And a lot of the things I was talking about in that litany of phone calls that I needed to... Or business I needed to deal with yesterday was time sensitive. I mean, you know... Guys going to Croatia next week. That's time sensitive.

[00:04:58] We were talking about... You know, getting Lou up to Michigan. They needed an answer pretty quick. I mean, a lot of this was time sensitive. A guy from Nevada maybe traveling to Alabama next weekend. All of this is time sensitive. And we are, as I posted on the website on Thursday, incredibly fortunate to host this program with such an interactive and responsive audience. Your letters, your emails, your phone calls, your text messages always so deeply appreciated.

[00:05:28] And as this program continues to grow, so do my commitments and obligations. And I'm thankful for that because I love working with people and I delight in bringing good people together and helping out where I can to provide connections and more. And to provide you with an even faster response time. So my wife was on last week. You know, she's been here forever with me. She's going to be coming on board as an additional point of contact. She has been by my side since the beginning.

[00:05:57] Even as a teenager, she campaigned for me when I ran for the state legislature in 2020... Not 2020. 2002. Keith, we're getting a little bit older than we used to be. Yeah, you're no longer one of the young blods. And when the show first aired in 04, she was with me in the studio. She's always been there. And so many of you have met her at our conferences. Even more of you have heard her voice on our program.

[00:06:23] Whether it be cameo appearances or last week with the homeschooling hour that we did. Or even in ads with the above time coffee ad. If you've ever received a piece of mail from the program, very good chance that she packaged it. She sealed it. She took it to the post office. Her fingerprints are all right. Quite literally. She has worked behind the scenes for this program as long as I have led it. And now she's going to take a more hands-on role in public relations, listener support, fundraising, things like that.

[00:06:49] So in the coming days and weeks and months, she may reach out to you. If you contact the program, she may respond. Because nobody is better suited to represent me than the woman who helped me shoulder this load from day one. And as we often say, Keith, for the past two decades, our audience is a family to us. This is a familial thing we do here. But my wife has been a part of it every step of the way. And I look forward to all of us making more progress together.

[00:07:15] And so I wanted to announce that because she has an official email address. We had to set it up with Gmail. We had to set it up with Gmail because my email address, which is either james at thepoliticalcessible.org, or if you prefer, jamesedwards at thepoliticalcessible.org. Increasingly over the years, more and more email clients reject emails from me as spam. We've never spammed anyone.

[00:07:44] We only respond to listener feedback or we're emailing people that we know. There's no spamming going on. But this is a game they play, one of the many games they've played to try to mute and silence us. And so I didn't want to give her, you know, Danny at thepoliticalcessible.org because you may not get the email at all. So we set up a Gmail address, and that's going to help me out, and it's going to help everybody out. That's what's going on. I wanted to make that announcement.

[00:08:13] I saw where Keith Alexander, who we know, Keith has been on the show a couple of times. We have interviewed him for American Free Press as well. Well, Keith has risen to become one of the more well-known nationalist activists in Europe. He is from Ireland, of course. Now, Keith Woods was the one who, quite famously, when Elon Musk, or shortly after Elon Musk had purchased Twitter,

[00:08:41] Keith Alexander was the one responsible for the ban the ADL hashtag. Elon Musk was communicating and having a conversation for days directly with Keith Woods. And then Keith Woods had asked Elon Musk directly would he reinstate James Edwards TPC, which was my handle, my original handle. And Elon went kind of quiet after that.

[00:09:09] There was no response, but there was that communication. Well, Keith Woods had just done a video this week. He's been very successful over there. Great guy. Did a video this week or last week, I guess, where he was talking about being debanked, deplatformed from credit card processing. Was not able to get a visa.

[00:09:32] I mean, boy, the purpose of this hour, at least for the next couple of segments, we're going to be talking about 20 years of perspective. I guess the only surprise would be that a guy that prominent had not been banned before because we were banned from all credit card processing in 2006. And we played whack-a-mole for a while. We went from processor to processor and stayed there for as long as we could until we were banned again.

[00:09:59] And then several years ago, we were just universally banned. Nobody's been able to give to TPC with credit card for years now. And Nick Griffin, who was supposed to have spoken at each of our last two conferences in South Carolina, the 20th anniversary conference a couple of years ago, the Will to Power Conference last year. What an amazing conference. Nick's visa was denied. So that's happened to Keith and Keith Woods.

[00:10:25] And, of course, I remember, you know, what, 10 years ago, Bill Regnery, you know, was turned around at the airport. Jared Taylor, for so many years, wasn't allowed to travel into Europe. And now that that's been lifted, he's over there all the time now. But we're going to talk in the next couple of segments about 20 years of perspective and some teachable moments for the youth and the upcoming activists. And we're going to play into this letter that appeared in a newspaper, this article, that a wild conference in another teachable moment we had in 2008. Stay tuned. It's all coming.

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[00:13:05] So all those announcements in the first segment having been made, don't forget you can meet us in Alabama next week at the Southern Cultural Center Conference. We had Mike Wharton on a couple of weeks ago to promote that and all the details. You can go, well, just Google Southern Cultural Center and you can get the information there. There's still time for you to come.

[00:13:26] Keith, this dear lady in Kentucky had written an article about this meeting that we put on, this conference, back in 2008 for the First Freedom. That is a newspaper that was led by Olaf Childress. And when Olaf died, the newspaper did as well. American Free Press, by the way, celebrating its 25th year.

[00:13:54] And we'll be celebrating that in the next issue. But, you know, when these people go and these publications go, they cannot be replaced. But I remember the First Freedom, great newspaper. And Nancy from Kentucky wrote this article. She sent it to me late winter, early spring of this year. So 18 years after the fact. It was my first time to read it. For the benefit of younger activists who are still trying to, you know, make their way through all of this and understand how things are.

[00:14:24] We go all the way back to where we were at that point where it became this way. Because prior to 2008, I'd put on several conferences and several events for Pat Buchanan, for the radio program, had attended events for American Renaissance and the Council of Conservative Citizens and other groups like that. And they were allowed to meet at chain hotels. This was the first event in the modern era that had been canceled.

[00:14:54] And since then, this was the progenitor. I mean, this was why all of these other groups, you know, after this precedent had been made, every other group fell. That's why you have to do them underground.

[00:15:06] You have to do them invitation only under assumed names or have them registered and was able to adhere to the malignant bigotry targeting this white heritage and white rights event. The brave participants able to find the location of this last minute venue were special in many ways.

[00:15:33] These patriots were placed in a position to support the cause of liberty and freedom with a better understanding of the forces arrayed against their race. They attended under great duress. Because, I mean, you'll remember, Keith, when this thing got canceled, I was in the car with you when this got canceled. And we had one of the speakers from Sweden was in the car with us. We were in downtown Memphis. The hotel knew who we were. The hotel knew who was coming. You have a contract.

[00:15:57] I thought that's what the Civil Rights Act was all about, that you would be able to drink from the same water fountain, sit at the same diner, rent a hotel room. But not so much. And these people still came, hundreds of them, hundreds came, when we didn't know until the last minute if we were going to be able to pull this off. And so you understand truly what the battles that will continue to grow under our tyrannical system.

[00:16:28] She writes, I registered for the conference to be held in Memphis on Saturday, November 8th and Sunday, November 9th, 2008. Those who were attended were notified by mail about October 16th of the exact location for the conference. We would have a grand accommodation in a rural setting at a very fine hotel. The contract negotiated by James Edwards had been signed about six months prior.

[00:16:57] The hotel management was privy to the particulars of the conference, which were white heritage and white rights, and to include various laws against free speech emanating from the European Union. A block of rooms at discounted prices were held for participants under a different organization name in order to keep the venue secret from the media and our enemies. These are some of the tactics required now. I booked a room for two nights.

[00:17:20] I received a message on my telephone recorder the week before the event that my reservations had been canceled. I was told by James Edwards and David Duke that they had never been notified by the hotel, but they were aware that the hotel had been contacting guests directly and canceling their reservations. I was told that there was to be a state of emergency declared in DeSoto County. This is the county where Olive Branch, Mississippi, is located.

[00:17:50] So we had this particular event just south of Memphis, about 30 minutes south of Memphis. How convenient to declare an emergency, as this could be the loophole for the hotel to wiggle out of hosting the conference. So that is what the hotel did in this case. Now, I mean, since then, with Amran and Council of Conservative Citizens and V-Day and others, they just cancel you for no reason. But the hotel declared its, you know, activated its force majeure stipulation, act of God.

[00:18:19] Well, the county government declared a state of emergency because the political cesspool was hosting a conference at this hotel. And that was something in 2008. And, Keith, you remember it all too well. I remember it very vividly. In fact, I still have the car that we were driving around in, a 1999 Ford Expedition, when we got the news.

[00:18:46] Now, supposedly, the manager of the hotel had received some Antifa threats over the phones, threatening to kill him and his family if they went through with it. That's right. Well, he told me that directly. He told me that directly, that they had threatened to blow, you know. And again, you know, you get death threats. You're in this for a while. You take safeguards and precautions, but it's not unprecedented.

[00:19:11] But if you're just a normal square guy and somebody calls you on the phone at your home and says, if you allow this conference to take place, we're going to blow up your house. We're going to kill you and your wife and your kids. I mean, that's going to make you think twice. And then, but even then, even then, now, now, venues will cancel you for no reason and tell you to deal with it. You know, go to hell. But they actually did rely on the county to issue a state of emergency.

[00:19:40] I mean, as if it were, you know, some occupied war zone, as if it were like a legitimate pandemic, not the one from 2020. But a county government in an American state to declare a state of emergency with police presence, helicopters.

[00:20:00] I mean, the whole thing, because a few hundred people were going to come to a meeting and hear scholars and activists and elected officials speak. Like, that was the first time, you know, that was the first time in the modern times that that had happened. And it was our conference. And so, I mean, we've learned so much. We learned so much so early. I mean, nobody had been canceled from credit card processing prior to TPC in 2006. We blazed that trail for everybody.

[00:20:29] And then, you know, being denied a venue when you have a legally binding contract. It's one thing for them to just tell you, no, you can't come here. We had a contract, a contract. You know, when you sign a contract, when the hotel signs a contract with you and they know who you are, you know, that's a binding document, you know. Well, it should be. But, again, wasn't this what the blacks were all up in arms about in the 60s? They wanted to be able to go to Woolworths. They wanted to be able to eat at the same diner. They wanted to be able to drink from the water fountain, rent a hotel room. Well, those were denied.

[00:20:58] And that was 20 years ago. So anybody thinking now that it's going to be any different, you better be thinking, you better be expecting it. Well, it kind of blindsided us all. And we were in my car driving around trying to brainstorm this. This was a huge event, by the way. I mean, this was bigger than, I mean, American Renaissance is big. This was bigger than that at that time. And this was 500 people had signed up. This was a big thing. So we were driving around. And I don't know whether it was James or David or who it was. Well, David wasn't there.

[00:21:28] It was not me. I know where you're going with this. There was some guy that was, you know, curled up. That was our friend from Sweden. But, no, actually, that was the guy from Desite. You're confusing. You're having false memories. It was the guy from Desite that actually saw what diversity was. It was curled up at the fetal position. But, no, we were in the car. This is true enough. We were in the car. We were trying to find an alternative venue. And somehow, I forget who it was that came up with it.

[00:21:57] But we found a motel that was run by, I think, a Pakistani or something. And when you showed him those greenbacks, his face lit up. I know who found that. His name was James Edwards. What we did was we went to this particular intersection because we knew we couldn't have, with 500 people. Now, under all that duress, obviously, a lot of people ended up not coming.

[00:22:24] I remember spending two nights, two days and nights on the phone, less than a week before the conference saying, we've been canceled, but we're not surrendering. We are going to have an event. I don't know where. I don't know how. And we're calling all these people that were signed up. Signed up. I mean, we're calling them overnight. I mean, around the clock. But about half of them still showed up. I mean, we still have between 200 and 300 out of the 500 people show up. And not knowing until the morning up. Now, this is commonplace now.

[00:22:53] All of this is just SOP, standard operating procedure for nationalist events now. But it wasn't in the mid-2000s. And we were the progenitor of that. And so much more hardship that has been faced. Everything they have done. I mean, banning me from Twitter again last month. Everything they have done. I can't even send emails. They threw the kitchen sink at us, but somehow we got through it. Well, we found that intersection where you had a cluster of hotels. It was like six or seven different hotels.

[00:23:23] Because you can't get that many people in one hotel the week of. I mean, everything's booked. But we did have this. We put them all in this cluster and told them, just find a hotel in this block. And then we'll tell you where the thing is going to be at. And it ended up being a one-day event instead of two. But it was really in some ways, because of all the duress and all the pressure. And I love pressure because I work better under it. To pull that off, me and David Duke.

[00:23:50] I remember calling in to a radio show that night, sitting in a car. It was cold. It was already cold. This was the week after Obama had been elected. And it was still to this day one of my most triumphant moments, I think. Pulling that conference off. Being up, not sleeping for a week. I mean, and David, David Duke had been here that whole week. And David was being kicked out of hotels for his own private sleeping quarters.

[00:24:16] I mean, he was just there as an American citizen, not hosting an event at that hotel. Just there to sleep. I mean, you want to talk about violating someone's civil rights. When a sheriff's deputy comes up at the door, you're just at a hotel, a random hotel, to spend the night. You're not planning anything. You're not doing anything there. And they make you leave. I saw that. I was with David for that. Paul Fromm was there. It was a hell of a thing. We're revisiting it right now.

[00:24:42] And giving some teachable moments for the youth who were surprised when some of these things happen now. We'll be there in the beginning. We'll talk a little bit more about it next. Stay tuned. How would you like to help this program reach more people and earn silver at the same time? 801-669-2211 for complete details. News this hour from Town Hall. I'm Mary Rose. The Senate has confirmed Todd Blanche as the next U.S. Attorney General in a 50 to 49 vote.

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[00:30:30] It's great to be alive, folks, and this has been a life worth living, and we have had a lot of stories to tell, and it has been animating, and it has been a true privilege to struggle on behalf of a cause greater than ourselves, our race, our Western civilization. And, you know, David Duke, I'll never forget that week with David Duke, and I want to thank Nancy again for sending in this article a few months ago. I'm sorry we haven't had a chance to work it in before now,

[00:30:57] but we have mentioned this conference, of course, many times before, but I'll tell you another little interesting nod here, and that is that my wife. Now, David had gotten into town a week early, obviously, and to get prepared, and this whole thing got canceled, and then we put it back together. I mean, we just didn't sleep for a week,

[00:31:23] and my wife, of course, is very good friends with David. My wife was actually cleaning the house today in a David Duke for Senate T-shirt, and David called me today. I always like to take a nap before the show like an athlete. You know, I've got to get ready for the big game, you know, every Saturday. So about 4 o'clock, I take a quick nap before coming into the studio, and David woke me up today actually calling, and we were talking. But my wife was not at this conference. She was working as a promotional model then,

[00:31:51] and she was, of all places, in New Orleans that weekend working for Pontiac at a car show. But of all people who helped me was my wife was on the show last week with Kim. Her sister, her sister Christy, helped me. We didn't have food once we went to this other hotel, and I remember walking over to a Cracker Barrel with Christy and just getting, you know, what, hundreds of meals. They go back over to the hotel across the street.

[00:32:19] Now, that was another place that a great story comes that David still tells to this day. Being at the Cracker Barrel that night after the event, and we had this long table of a couple of dozen people, and a black pastor from Louisiana recognized David, all right? And David had been holding a campaign event at a restaurant during one of his runs for either the Senate or the gubernatorial election.

[00:32:49] This black church bus pulls up, but the restaurant's closed for a private event, but these people are hungry and they're traveling. David lets them in. Now, this is in the, you know, early 90s. Fast forward to 2008 when we were having this conference. That same pastor is in the same Cracker Barrel in Memphis, Tennessee, that we're at only because our hotel had gotten canceled, and he recognized David, and he remembered that act of kindness. This black pastor came up, reintroduced himself, and paid for everybody in our group's meal.

[00:33:18] And these are the stories you gather, and I, you know, Phil, a friend who has never missed a TPC conference. Phil, you rode with Phil to one in South Carolina. You know Phil. Phil's a great guy. Yeah, from Arkansas. He was there with us, and it was just, it is an honor to struggle. And it'll make the eventual victory so much more flavorful, I think. But I'm looking at some of the headlines, Keith.

[00:33:46] This actually made national news, this conference. Made national news. And because of the state of emergency, because of David Duke, because of, you know, all of it. But, and there was a book written about it later. And in the very first chapter of this book, everything's fabricated. They're talking about, you know, the author's talking about how you had to fight through throngs of protesters to get into the hotel. None of that happened.

[00:34:14] There were no protesters at the hotel because we engaged in misdirection. We told the media that we were going to be meeting, still meeting in Olive Branch, Mississippi, which is in northern Mississippi, about 30 minutes. It's a suburb of Memphis. It's just right over the state line. Memphis is right on the state line with both Arkansas and Mississippi. But we weren't in Arkansas. We weren't in Mississippi. We had gotten a hotel in Memphis. But they were sending helicopters. And the state of emergency was in, you know, northern Mississippi, DeSoto County. And we had already moved to Shelby County.

[00:34:43] There were no, nobody knew until the end where we actually were. But I'm looking at these headlines. I mean, these are national news headlines everybody was covering. I mean, this was national news, local news and national news. One headline, DeSoto County, Mississippi declares state of emergency during White Power Conference. Another headline, White Power Conference called off. Hotel decides against use of facility. Another headline, David Duke, quote, accommodation cancellation on American. This was a big deal.

[00:35:12] And again, for new people or younger activists who have been born into a world where this is commonplace, even as late as the mid-2000s, Jerry Taylor, Council of Conservative Citizens, other groups of our nature had the right to enter into an agreement, a binding contract with the hotel and have it honored. This was the first time that was undone.

[00:35:40] And it had been the template ever since that people all across the West face. It was this conference. It was us. It was David Duke. Well, you know, the First Amendment apparently only applies against governments. You know, the government has to recognize your First Amendment rights, but private individuals or entities don't have to. And that's what our opposition relied upon by intimidating the hotel. Well, they were threatening to kill them.

[00:36:08] Now, if we had threatened to kill, I mean, imagine threatening to kill a group, a hotel manager for, you know, hosting, you know, some left-wing black organization that we didn't agree with politically. Do you think that they would just say, you know what, it's these people's fault for trying to rent a room. They're the ones that have the problem, not the people who are trying to kill them. I mean, these people we're not even going to even think about. What happened?

[00:36:32] Well, you know, it was absolutely commonplace back then for the left to imagine that they could do anything they wanted to. You know, constitutional rights for right-wingers didn't exist. And it would have been very easy for us to have said, well, you know, we gave it a good old college try, but we can't do it and fold our tent. But we didn't.

[00:36:58] And because we didn't, now you see conferences like this all over America. We found out the template for it. For example, using Montgomery Bell State Park in Tennessee about 45 minutes to the west of Nashville, because that's a state entity, they have to recognize and protect the constitutional rights of individuals

[00:37:26] to hold an event in their facility where like a Holiday Inn or some other private hotel would not. But we figured out how to do it all. Well, that's one way. Now, the thing that we do is we still go to very fine hotels. Not that Montgomery Bell doesn't have its charm, but I like, you know, when we're doing a conference, I like it to be first right.

[00:37:54] And again, not that Montgomery Bell is not. That is a fine facility, and Jared's conferences are, you know, matchless. But we do it a little different. We do invitation only, and we do it at the chains still. But you still have to, you know, you can't do it publicly if you do it that way. But there are ways to do it. Well, the thing is, Jared had had several conferences canceled. Only after this, though. Yeah, right.

[00:38:22] I remember talking to Jared when Jared called me when his first American Renaissance conference was canceled in Charlotte. He called me because we had been through this. But they ended up not, you know, putting something back together until later. But, yeah, I mean, this was all after this. Yeah, well, see, we did the broken field running and found out how to get it done and not to have to cancel out. You just don't surrender. I mean, if you have people coming from all around the world, you've got to give them something.

[00:38:47] I mean, they understand that it's not going to be as good as what it would have been under the circumstances. But what they won't understand is, hey, I have planned, you know, maybe my only vacation. I've invested all this money. You've got to go all the way to the wall. And we did. And I remember that night being there, not sleeping for days.

[00:39:08] It is still to this day one of the proudest moments of my life because we put something on for those people who dared to come under all of that unrest with helicopters and deputies and police forces trying to find us. And protesters over there at that Holiday Inn University facility where we originally had it scheduled. And we basically fought through all of that. James basically gets the lion's share of the credit for that. But we were not going to give up.

[00:39:38] I mean, David himself was ejected from three hotels for just being there as a private citizen. I've never seen anything like it. And, you know, that example of our program, our meeting that time, our convention, that set the template. And that got everything going. You know, I wish I could have read this entire 10-page article that Olaf Childress published in the aftermath of this thing for the first freedom. It is great. I'm reading through some of it.

[00:40:08] And it's, you know, Nancy just did a great job with this. But it is longer. This is commercial talk radio. But anyway, hey, I'm just saying we've got perspective. We've been through it all. There's nothing anybody that's going to go through in this inactivism that we haven't gone through. We use the universal language with the owner, the Pakistani owner. They were interviewing him. James didn't see this, but I saw it on the news. They were interviewing him about why he was letting David Duke speak.

[00:40:37] And he said, no speaking English. But then they had B-roll footage of him counting stacks of $100 bills at the back office. With a big grin on his face. You had to pay cash for that. That is true. They got B-roll footage of him after he was off camera counting stacks of $100 bills. We'll be right back with a surprise for you, a big surprise. Stay tuned. Hey, folks. It's your friend Harry Cooper here.

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[00:42:57] American Heritage School in American Fork. Folks, it just so happened that tonight we had finally been able to work in, even though this letter, this article that appeared in this newspaper was sent in to me earlier this year. A reminder, it was an article from 2008, of course, but I received it earlier this year for the first time I read it, and I had wanted to work it in ever since, and tonight was the night.

[00:43:27] And in honor of this story that we've been covering tonight, the 2008 conference in Memphis with David Duke, and that great story at the Cracker Barrel that we shared a moment ago, I thought that we could not end this hour any other way than having David say hello in a very cameo appearance. He's got a new book that's coming out. There's so much going on in the world with Israel and Iran and Trump. And David, I just wanted to give you the opportunity to say,

[00:43:55] we'll have you back on again, obviously, for a much longer installment. But having you on to close this hour was important to me, because that 2008 conference was really, really, really similar. It was a watershed moment. It really was. It was just great. Yeah, I think your work and my work has been a watershed moment for the whole world and for the whole movement in our country, because for the first time people have been confronting the issue of our times,

[00:44:25] the issue of the world, the issue for the fate of Christianity, for the fate of humanity, for the fate of the American people, and the fate, really, for justice for the world, because we recognize and we've made very clear that the greatest threat to humanity is Judaism. That sounds kind of funny to some people who are Christians, but it really isn't funny.

[00:44:48] The truth is that Jesus rejected the Judaism of the idea that Jews were the sacred people, the holy people, the people of God, the chosen people, and said very clearly, he directly said, he said that no one is, that people are chosen are those who are righteous, the people. And he said the only way that you can go to heaven and you can know what God wants is to hear what I say.

[00:45:17] He's my father, and I know my father like no one else. And my father is a God of love, like I am. He believes in repentance. He believes in love. He believes in forgiveness. He's not, he rebuked his disciples who wanted to bring down the wrath of God on some family that rejected Christians. And he said, have you learned nothing from what I've been speaking to you? He said that no. He said, we speak the word. I come to save you.

[00:45:46] I come to save the people. I come to save the children of the world. I don't come to punish. I don't come to kill. I don't come to murder. I don't come to have revenge. I come because I love humanity. God is love. That's what it says in John, and it's so true. And I believe that so much. And I believe that Jesus taught us a message that we've got to hear. And that doesn't mean you can't defend your rights.

[00:46:13] In fact, Jesus was very stringent about defending the innocent, like the children, like the victims, for instance, of the Epstein class over the last couple years. Think about that for a second. The abuse of children. Jesus said anybody would so much make a child have a misstep, deserves to be dropped to the bottom of the sea with a millstone around their neck. And that was a very different message in a lot of the Old Testament.

[00:46:41] In the Old Testament, when they talked about a child disobeying or something, that bring him to the synagogue and organize a stoning. You know, there were children that were kind of beset by demons that Jesus ran into. He healed them. He didn't send them for a stoning. He didn't stone the adulterous woman. And what he did was say, okay, you without sin, you cast the first stone. I came to heal people.

[00:47:10] And he brought his message to the whole world for all people. So there's a tremendous bias against Gentiles, against Greeks, against Romans, against Samaritans. And he said, they teach you to love your own Jews, but you hate other people. You hate your enemies. He says, I teach you love. And that doesn't mean, again, that you have to embrace people that hurt your children

[00:47:37] or want to carry them off into slavery or harm them or stone them or abuse them. No. What he said basically was that we must treat all people fairly and decently. And here's the fact of it. As you know and I know, the people who created this country, the people who brought us Christianity have not been treated fairly. They're literally trying to wipe our people off the earth. That's not the will of Jesus. This is not the will of God. God is not a genocider.

[00:48:04] God brings love and peace for all people, including our own. And we're in a situation now where we're being wiped out in our own country. The greatest threat to the world for all people, the freedom of all people, the values of all people. And obviously the Christian tradition, the Christian faith, Judaism is not Christianity. Judaism is a rejection of Christ. The Jewish religion says that Christ is being boiled. It's hard to even say this, human excrement. That's Judaism. That is in the Talmud.

[00:48:33] There is a refutation of that by some Jews. Some Jews say it's not excrement that Jesus is being tortured in for eternity, but Jesus is actually being tortured in what you call, I hate to say it, the word, with semen. That's how Jesus is being tortured. That's the only concept. What a choice. Yeah, that's not a very good choice, is it? And they actually say that they had a necromancer bring Jesus back from the dead

[00:49:02] so that Jesus could denounce Christians, denounce himself, and say that he deserved to be boiled in semen for all eternity. That's the ultimate of hatred. And people don't even realize this. This is the religion that Candace Owens' opposition, you know, who's the great guy that she worked for, Shapiro, yeah. Judaism is the exact antithesis to what Christianity is. Christ taught love. Christ taught forgiveness.

[00:49:31] And Christ taught that you've—and you actually—the other thing I love about the teachings of Christ is that he elevated the Christians to the very apple of God's eye. He said anybody that would hurt and harm a child is the worst of the dregs. Again, they need to be dropped to the bottom of the sea with a millstone around their necks. He defended humanity. Judaism actually considered children as possessions of their parents and possessions of society,

[00:49:59] and that children could be, in fact, treated like slavery. You could sell your own children into slavery. That's actually in the Old Testament, so it's shocking to some people to listen to that. And the ironic thing is, the horrific thing is that in those ages, child slavery or bondage was— that really meant that the owner of the child, the owner of the bond slave, could do anything they want to to those children, abuse them.

[00:50:26] That was the way of ancient slavery and slavery at that time. It's horrific to think about this, but this is a reality. Jesus says, again, he loved children. He said the children were the kingdom of heaven. And that turned Judaism on its head. People have to understand that Christianity, the teachings of Christ, were the antithesis of what Judaism became. And by the way, under the Old Testament, you know, there was no afterlife.

[00:50:56] You didn't have an afterlife under the way the Old Testament was set up. That was brought by Jesus Christ. And the promise of afterlife for you to see your loved ones again after you die, to go on, that was something that Christ brought to the world. And that's a perfect example of why we're Christians and why we're not practicing Judaism. Any questions? Any thoughts?

[00:51:20] Well, David, I would just bring up this, perhaps an observation or an opportunity to make a statement, and that is that I have it on good authority. You are going to be releasing, perhaps as soon as later this year, even before Christmas, a brand new book, a new David Duke book on exactly the topic that you've just been addressing. Is that accurate?

[00:51:47] Yes, and it's going to show the truth about Jesus' teachings. And the truth is that Jesus was a revolutionary. He walked among the Jewish people, but he taught a very different message. In fact, he taught that Judaism had become corrupt. He literally said the Pharisees. Judaism became what's called a Pharisaic religion. And he said, and right into the temple, to their faiths, he said, you are not on my father.

[00:52:16] He said literally to the Pharisees, your father, your father literally is the father of the devil. And the lust of your father you will do who is a murderer from the beginning. And the Jews said to him, no, no, no, our father is the same as your father. And Jesus says, but you say that, but it's not true. He says, my father, if you were of my father, you'd love me. You wouldn't be trying to murder me like you're doing right now in the temple. Right then they were picking up sticks and stones.

[00:52:44] And he talked increasingly about the lying scribes and the people that were writing this doctrine, saying that God would command the mass murder of children, that God even supposedly, according to the scribes, was saying that he was going to make his own people suffer from cannibalism, that they were going to cause them to be captured by their enemies, suffer starvation, and they were going to be forced. Literally, this is a punishment of God. It's in the Old Testament. You can find it.

[00:53:14] You can do any concordance and find it. And in the Old Testament, it says that the Jews, the Jewish people, because of lawbreaking that they did a few generations before, that they would be, you know, they would have to murder their own children and eat the flesh of their own children. The women would eat the flesh of their womb. The fathers would eat the flesh of their... Now, that's shocking to people. And most people would say, that can't be in the Old Testament.

[00:53:43] It is in the Old Testament. And it's... And so everything... Remember that all through the Old Testament, there's transgressions. There's idolatry. There's cases of Jews doing sorts of things, Jewish punishment, at a massive scale by God. And the truth is that Jesus offered a different message. He offered a message of love and eternal life and treating each other with love and decency and fairness

[00:54:10] and not abusing or trying to repress other people. Well, there's even a part in Isaiah where it says the Gentiles will come and crawl on their bellies to the Jews. And the Gentiles will have to lick the dirt off their feet. Brand new book on this topic coming up. And until then, davidduke.com, his radio program every week, Human Rights Radio. Yeah, I'll be on tomorrow morning. Davidduke.com, folks.

[00:54:39] My friend going back all the way to the beginning, his fingerprints are all over the evolution of this radio program going back to his 2004-2005 New Orleans conferences. I love you, David. We'll talk...