Mainstay guest Dr. Kevin MacDonald returns to the program to discuss current events as he sees them.
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[00:00:28] Well, from Portugal all the way to America's West Coast and Pacific time zone we go. That's how fast you can travel in radio. It makes you glad you live this long. But I want to thank again Nick Scanlon for joining us live from the Remigration Summit in Porto, Portugal. A great hour breaking that event down. It was where he was today and where a lot of our friends are right now.
[00:00:53] But now we go to, well, a man who has no peer. The incomparable Dr. Kevin MacDonald, a mainstay guest on this program to be sure, but a great friend. One of our most frequently interviewed guests of all time. An evolutionary psychologist by trade I guess you could say. But you know his books, The Culture of Critique, so many others.
[00:01:17] A seminal, really foundational reading for understanding the most important question of all in many ways. The question of Jewish power and influence. But he was also, as I guess most of you know, but maybe you need to be reminded now because time does march on. And the years do go by and blur. He was a classroom professor at the University of California. Excuse me, California State University, Long Beach.
[00:01:42] I mean, imagine, Keith, being a student and having Kevin MacDonald be your professor in the classroom. It would be different, I can tell you that. Well, it's great to have him back. How are you doing, Professor? Great to have you back tonight. I'm doing just fine, James. Glad to be here again. Always. Yeah. I think, obviously, you know, I'm known for writing about Jewish issues.
[00:02:11] And right now, with the Iran War, I think Jewish power is right out there. And people are starting to see how important this group is for American foreign policy. And, you know, if you read the Jewish press, they're always talking about huge rise in anti-Semitism, huge decrease in support of Israel in America.
[00:02:34] And what that means to us is a huge increase in awareness of Jewish power and influence, which is what they call anti-Semitism. Exactly, yeah. It used to be you could talk about, you could criticize Israel, but not be called an anti-Semite. You know, rational criticism and all that. But nowadays, anything bad you say about Israel, you're an anti-Semite. Yeah. Forget it.
[00:03:00] Well, they're really doing us a favor with that, I think, because now we don't have to make that distinction. They've obliterated the distinction for us. Yeah. Yeah, they do. It's an indication, I think, that Jews are very concerned. At the same time, they're upping their ante. See, I think they seem to have total control over Trump. I mean, I'm extremely disappointed.
[00:03:27] I think I supported Trump a lot more than people, many people on our side. But, my God, when he bonged Iran here, and it's just selling out all his previous statements. What do you think that is, Kevin? Well, that's a good question. Do you think it's his background in real estate development or what? In New York or what? Well, it could be that.
[00:03:55] But I think, yeah, there's been a rise in the influence of Orthodox Jews in his administration. And, you know, they tend to be rather hawkish, especially if you go to Israel now. And, you know, the extreme right is in power. But, you know, it could be blackmail, too. I mean, we don't know. Trump was all over the Epstein files.
[00:04:22] And, you know, you wonder what would make Trump go against all his principles to, you know, start a war with Iran, with Israel. And talk about who's about it. But in the case of Israel doing this, I mean, it's assertion that they feel totally confident of their power, totally confident that they're influencing the United States. And yet it may backfire. We'll see.
[00:04:50] You know, Iran's doing, I think, better than anybody thought they would. And... Kevin, the way I look at it, it's a three-fold process. The first thing they do is bribery. That's what APAC is. Then if that doesn't work, they have blackmail. That's what Epstein is. And the third thing is assassination.
[00:05:14] You know, with John F. Kennedy, RFK and whatnot, it could be that Charlie Church's, you know, murder was a warning to him. This is what happens to people that turn on Israel. Well, okay. So this actually brings up something, Kevin, that I would like to put the ball in your court. And let's give Kevin plenty of time to flesh out his thinking on this. Because you just mentioned, I was going to actually bring this up in the second segment, but we'll go ahead and work it in now. And that is the Trump question.
[00:05:41] And there has been a lot of people that are all over the board on this. I get emails every week. You know, you're not hard enough on Trump. You're not supporting Trump enough. I mean, there's never going to be a consensus on that. But, yes, as you mentioned, you have supported Trump more vocally than some in our ranks. And so have I. And we did this thing for the American Free Press at the end of last year, right around Christmas. And he was still ranking very high.
[00:06:09] Now, he's had blunder after blunder in calendar year 2026. There's no doubt about it. I am still a little bit of a hard sell for me that we're going to be better off with the Democrats in power, as some white nationalists are saying. Where do you weigh in on Trump right now, Kevin? Yeah. Well, I don't think we could be better off with the Democrats. I think that would be a disaster. Unfortunately, Trump can't run again.
[00:06:36] But I do fear that Republicans are going to get slaughtered in the November election. And for good reason. You know, the board is very unpopular. You've got this inflation that's very high. A lot of people are a lot of Americans are really underwater and they're in debt and credit cards and the whole thing. And so it's a perfect storm for the Republicans here.
[00:07:03] And Trump says, you know, I don't care about the midterms. And I think it's foolish. I think if the Democrats do win, he's going to be impeached for sure. Well, he'll get impeached. I don't know if he'll be convicted, but he will be impeached and it'll just be horrible. I mean, just remember the last two years of his first administration. It was just one investigation after another. One impeachment after another. He had two or three of them.
[00:07:33] And, you know, it's nonstop with these people. And if the Democrats don't get back in, forget about any border enforcement. Forget about reporting aliens, even if they're criminals. It's not going to matter. And they want these people for power, for votes. And they're not going to stop doing that. So I do hope that Republicans win, actually.
[00:08:02] But maybe something like J.D. Vance, you know, would be a breath of fresh air when he got into his own. Yeah, if he gets convicted, if he gets convicted in this impeachment, that would mean that J.D. Vance would step into the president. Well, I mean, we're looking. I think you're certainly going to have a morass of impeachments. And the past will be prologue if they retake the Congress, which they are certainly on track to do.
[00:08:27] Well, listen, just to give you an example, Kevin, I mean, this is Brad Griffin, our friend Brad Griffin, who basically informed my Amron speech a couple of years ago. So there's been a lot of oscillation with regards to Trump. I mean, we can all go back to 2015 and 16 and the enthusiasm of something so new and different that everybody felt at that time during his campaign against Hillary.
[00:08:55] And I still just I still am so thrilled when I see the people crying at her victory party, what they thought would be her victory party. And then he disappointed people checked out in 2020. And then, you know, we all thought that a punished Trump would come back and this time he would do it right. And listen, I'm not saying that we're not better off now than we are 10 years ago. Certainly we are and that there is not good things that he's done. And that's a topic for another day. But Brad Griffin was a huge Trump supporter.
[00:09:23] You know, he has turned a complete 180 on Trump. But he writes this Trump has remodeled the Republican Party. This is at Occidental dissent today. But it has not been remade around any ideology or vision. Instead, he has transformed it into the corrupt cult of personality in which only sycophants are rewarded. He doesn't even seem to be interested in winning the midterms or passing legislation anymore. The Republican Party is the party of five dollar gas. Inflation war with Iran for Israel and protecting pedophiles.
[00:09:53] That isn't a winning brand. So, as you say, past his prologue, they'll probably lose the midterms because of the reasons he mentioned. I hate to see it. But that's probably what's coming. And we know what's going to happen the two years to come from there. Gridlock and impeachment. Gridlock. But also investigations. And one thing after another from the Democrats. Just dominating the headlines and everything. And the other thing about Trump that really gets me. And it sort of got me before.
[00:10:22] But since I turned 180 on him, his narcissism. In fact, he's got to have his picture everywhere. And, you know, the $250 bill. His affinity for gold. Gold in this and gold in that. We don't like gilded stuff. But the brothers do that. But, you know, General Sherman. Hold on right there. We're just getting started with Kevin MacDonald tonight.
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[00:13:55] If you are not listening to Beach Boys music by now, there is something inherently wrong with you. This is summertime, and it is our summertime programming on TPC. And we've got a California guy right now. Yes, Kevin was born in Wisconsin. We know that. But he spent a great deal of his career in California. Were you a surfer? Let me ask you that, Kevin. Well, now I got a better question. What was your favorite Beach Boys song? We've got to really get to it. The Beach Boys are definitely my song, my music era.
[00:14:25] When you had that song on there, I immediately resonated with it. You know, it's 1950s. Well, let me tell you something. And there's actually a reason for this. I love that music, you know. I mean, this is my music. The vocal harmonies. You know, James is caught in the 50s and early 60s. But that is it. Gun to my head. This may be one of the more controversial things I've ever said on this show in 22 years. But gun to my head. One Beach Boys song, Little Do Scoop.
[00:14:54] It wasn't their biggest hit. It wasn't their most technical masterpiece. But I love it. Little Honda, Kokomo, Sloop John B. I mean, all summer long is my favorite. Be true to your school. When I grew up to be a man, God only knows. Wouldn't it be nice? I mean, they were incredible. Kevin, you got a favorite Beach Boys song? Well, you know, as I say, that song really is something I immediately recognized. There's a bunch of them. I've always liked their stuff, you know.
[00:15:24] I mean, I can't think of a title offhand, but, you know. Well, I can tell you. They got about 50 sing-alongs. And there's a reason for me bringing this up, and I'll get into that in the next segment. And it deals with the 250th anniversary of America and where we're going and what used to be considered all American and where we are now. And there's just nobody into this thing. You know, the 250th anniversary should be a big deal for a nation. But there's just – there's no –
[00:15:52] All right, we'll get into that next, next, next. But, Kevin, in the first hour before you came on, we had Nick Scanlon, a friend of ours from the U.K., long-time activist in British politics. And he was reporting live from the Remigration Summit in Porto, Portugal. And by all means, a great event. But we're talking – we're letting our hair down with you, so to speak, and as we can here in the United States because we are Americans.
[00:16:21] And we're not going to go to prison for saying this. But some of the event organizers – well, one of them is Eva Vlardingabroek from – she's, you know, the Dutch commentator and activist. I saw her on with Tucker Carlson recently. She was talking about remigration. And Tucker asked her, you know, point blank, who's responsible for all this? And you could just see sheer terror basically wash over her face. And she stumbled and said, well, I don't really know who – did you see this clip?
[00:16:47] I mean, it kind of made the – well, I don't really know who's behind what's going on in Europe. Well, obviously she does, and she doesn't want to go to prison, and I understand that. Can you have a movement that wins – I'm not talking about being autistic on this and talking about nothing but this issue. But can you have a movement that wins – Can you really be candid about it? That doesn't address it at all. Go, Kevin. Yeah, I think that you probably have to ultimately do it. Talk about Jewish influence.
[00:17:16] Talk about what – you know, the history of the 1965 immigration law, the history of Jewish activism that's continued past that time. And in Europe, it's the same story. We have had articles on France and on England and on Germany. And, you know, it's the same story everywhere. Australia. No question. The Jews were in the forefront of that. And so it's consistent around the world.
[00:17:43] Jews after World War II realized that from their point of view that societies would be better if they were multi-ethnic, that Jews would be one of many ethnic groups, would be competing with each other, whatever. But they, you know, they, of course, created it as, oh, there'd be harmony and it'll all be wonderful and all that. But the point is they saw it as refuge. They saw what happened in Germany in the 1930s.
[00:18:11] You had a homogeneous white Christian society, and it rose up against them. And it was popular with, you know, the working class. You know, think of the Frankfurt School. You know, they were always these standard-issue Marxists. All through the 1920s into the 1930s, all of a sudden they realized, oh, the working class is voting for Hitler. You know, what's going on? And so they then changed their whole philosophy to be, you know, it's about white ethnocentrism.
[00:18:39] And so immediately the propaganda machine started going. You know, the white people are evil. That white ethnocentrism is a pathology and that whole thing. And, you know, they invested heavily in media presence. You know, they, you know, Frankfurt School itself was totally shoddy ideological science. It wasn't even science. But they invested in real science trying to change public opinion.
[00:19:06] And they wanted to change public opinion to make it, you know, less white ethnocentrism is bad and all that. And so you had, you know, the influence of Boaz and all those people. So the reality is Jews became an elite in this society. And it's very, once they became an elite, they pushed out people that they didn't like, that didn't agree with them on basic things like immigration.
[00:19:36] And so here we are. You know, we've had really, I'd say since the 1960s, you really saw the rise of Jewish power after World War II, but it increased dramatically in the 1960s. And here we are, the 1960s. That's when the 1965 immigration law came about. And that in itself would not have changed the ethnic balance of the country. They promised it wouldn't. But they increased, you know, how many would come and where they would come from and everything.
[00:20:06] And once you got rid of the national war deal. Yeah. Kevin, what they basically did was it was a head fake. They pretended to be for certain people and for certain things when actually their real animus was against something. For example, the civil rights movement wasn't pro-black. It was anti-white. The homosexual rights movement wasn't pro-homosexual. It was anti-heterosexual. The feminist movement wasn't pro-woman. It was anti-male.
[00:20:34] And they look at white Gentiles as their, I think, primary competition for world hegemony. And everything was directed against white, you know, heterosexual Gentiles. And that's what they've done. And they somehow, you know, they still get a pass from some people.
[00:21:00] Like, for example, I was, you know, people that ought to know better, like Ann Coulter, for example, still worship at the Shrine of the Civil Rights Movement. And that was the camel's nose in the tent. That's where they got their first real foothold. Yeah. So true. And, yeah, there are a lot of people that disappointed, I think, know better. People at Tucker Carlson, I think he understands it.
[00:21:24] But he won't go there and really talk about Jewish power when it comes to immigration, multiculturalism. He's got this idea that if you criticize Jews, that there's something really wrong with that. And, you know, when I try to, when I do this, I try to be very specific. I'm not calling after all Jews. I'm saying, where is the power of the Jewish community? What are they trying to do? If you look at the power of the Jewish community, where is it? It's in the Israel lobby.
[00:21:53] It's in the pro-immigration, multiculturalism. It's in the universities. And the universities are totally on the left, totally multicultural, multi-ethnic, committed to all that. And, you know, this is something that was not the case before Jews really rose in the universities, beginning in the 1960s. Like, everything bad happened in this country, beginning in the 1960s. And, yeah, I was a creature of that. For a long time, I kind of believed it.
[00:22:22] You know, I was dropped out in the whole thing that six peoples of the 60s did. But, my God, then I realized what a horrible mistake it has been. And here we are. And then we have Trump today, though. You know, and with Trump, what do we do? See, I look at the long view from back in the civil rights movement. I think Trump has been very good for us on domestic policy.
[00:22:48] But just like every other president since Woodrow Wilson, he's been under the thumb of Jewish power and influence. And I think that Netanyahu won't let him settle the Iran war. What do you think? Yeah, that's very true. I think that the Syrian Zionists have already said that. If you look at the Israeli media, they are saying that we cannot have a settlement that does not, you know, involve all the Israeli, you know, the whole wish list.
[00:23:17] They want to get rid of any possibility of a nuclear weapon. They want a regime change. They want total capitulation, really, of Iran. And that is not going to happen without boots on the ground. What? And Iran's not the end of it. You know, they've said that, you know, after this, it's Turkey and Egypt. And Cuba. I saw that. After Greenland. It's amazing.
[00:23:45] It's the greater Israel idea. It is pervasive in Israel. And, you know, they have a so-called ceasefire in Lebanon and in Gaza. And they keep bombing and killing anyway. You know, and the word genocide is, you know, absolutely appropriate for what they did in Gaza. They're killing thousands of women and children. No concern about, you know, civilian status or anything.
[00:24:13] They're planning to take over Lebanon, don't you think? I think they plan to just annex Lebanon. Yeah, at least for now have, you know, defeat Hezbollah and, you know, take as much as they can. I don't know if they'd want all of it, but my God, what an administrative nightmare that would be. Hold on right there. God's a solution for it.
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[00:30:24] The soundtrack of America in the early 1960s, that was America's band, the California Boys, the Beach Boys,
[00:30:52] and still to this day, the ones that are still alive are still touring, led by Mike Love, who was the original founding member. I've seen him in concert many times. It is a high energy. It is a great show, even still. In 2026, can you believe it? They're still out there. And I saw them just two years ago, most recently. But, Kevin, here's the point in bringing that up. Here's the point in bringing that up. It is the 250th anniversary of America this year, from 1776 to 2026.
[00:31:21] But let's look at just California. And you know California. You worked there for so many years. We were at the California State University in Long Beach, right there outside of Los Angeles. Let's go back to 1960, at the dawn of the Beach Boys era. California's racial demographics, 92% white in 1960.
[00:31:44] In Los Angeles itself, Los Angeles itself was basically about the same, just a little bit less, about 80% white in 1960. Today, as we broadcast live tonight, the white population of Los Angeles, 28%. Kevin, what happened? Yeah, immigration.
[00:32:09] And beginning with Reagan's amnesty in 1986, that was really bad. Even in the 90s, we had Republican governors, Duke Mazian. And then, you know, we passed. Prop 187. And it would deny services to illegal immigrants. It was a great idea. And it passed overwhelmingly. But what happened?
[00:32:39] You had a Jewish judge named Fowler. And she said it was unconstitutional, that it has to be federal policy. You know, immigration should be a federal issue, not a state issue, which they say in that context. But as soon as you start talking about sanctuary cities, oh, cities and states can make their own laws. But that's what happened. And then Gray Davis got in there around 2000, I think.
[00:33:07] And he would not appeal that decision. So this is what happened to the state. And, you know, even now, I'm sure that... Jewish power and influence wins again. What's that? I said Jewish power and influence wins again. Yeah, it did. And it's a very sad story because it's clear what white Californians wanted. They wanted to keep it that way.
[00:33:35] When I got there in 1985, even in 1985, you know, you still saw orange groves in Orange County. And you didn't have... You know, everybody knew that Santa Ana was kind of Mexican and all that. But it just wasn't that bad. But, yeah, I mean, I was glad to get out of there. It just was way unwhite by the time I left.
[00:34:01] And it was a disaster. But it's a disaster that we see all over the country. And who's responsible for it? The usual suspects. I've got to turn you down. The usual suspects, yeah. I mean, you've got a Jewish judge right in the right place. You know, and she's on the left probably and the Democrat and all that. And she says that this is unconstitutional. And that's what did it.
[00:34:26] And, you know, if you appeal that to the Supreme Court now, with the conservative Supreme Court, you would probably get a decision that 187 is okay. Hey, what's wrong with restricting services to citizens? And that's the thing. But here we go. And it's never been brought up again.
[00:34:52] And now, of course, you could never win a proposition like Proposition 187 in California because whites are a minority and they would not have so many illegals, so many Latinos, so many Asians now. They're not going to vote for Prop 187. And we talked to Ron Unz not long ago about, you know, one of his English-only propositions,
[00:35:20] which was not too long ago, but, you know, certainly not in the very distant past, but certainly far enough to where it would never happen again, at least not under these demographics. How do you go? I mean, that is in a single lifetime, 90% white to 28% white in one lifetime. That is – if that is not genocide, what is? I mean, how can you even have the term? Well, so here's the thing, Kevin, the reason I bring this up, and I've only got about two or three minutes left with you. And always great to have you.
[00:35:49] Thank you for being such a mainstay on this program for our entire run. TheOccidentalObserver.net. Don't forget the actual quarterly. Well, yes, the Occidental Quarterly, TOQonline.com. And Kevin and I work together on that every issue along with our team. And the summer issue is about to go to press. So, yes, thank you, Kevin, for that. I'm working on it today. Yeah. And anyway – by the way, while we're plugging things,
[00:36:18] let's not forget the third edition, the updated and expanded edition of the Culture of Critique, antelopehillpublishing.com. All good things, to be sure. But this is the point, Kevin. And I think California has been a catalyst, maybe an extreme catalyst in the racial – You've been a laboratory. Well, in the racial change here in the United States. But it leads us up to this question, and we teased it before. This will be my last question for you. The 250th anniversary of America.
[00:36:47] Here we are. Now, this should be a big deal for a nation, but nobody's into it. And one of our friends wrote just this week as we head towards – we're barreling towards now. We're almost into June. The 4th of July is coming up in just a few weeks. Changing demographics may mean Americans, quote-unquote Americans, have no connection whatsoever to the historic nation and regard its history as offensive, racist, and even evil. Meanwhile, many white Americans, especially those who are young and on the hard right,
[00:37:17] are disillusioned with the entire national project. Yet, the American identity remains, if submerged, and is the exclusive property of those whites who have sufficient will and organization to conquer it. But here we are now, 250 years into this American experiment, and I don't think national morale could be any lower. The American experiment has been – basically, they've turned on the American people. The American government has turned on the American people. Non-whites are not into it.
[00:37:46] Racially conscious whites are not into it. What do you assess the state of the nation 250 years in? Obviously, Democrats are not into it either. A lot of them see the United States as having stolen land and slavery and all that, Jim Crow. And that's how they think of America. So they're not going to be marching out there like we used to see in the Fourth of July,
[00:38:13] and I used to march in Memorial Day parades back when I was a kid. But, you know, that's over, you know. And now Trump's going to try to make it all by himself and have his picture everywhere probably. And I don't know. It's just very depressing, isn't it? I mean, I just wish things hadn't gone this way so bad.
[00:38:39] It's so sad to see the country you grew up in just go down the drain like this. And the secession, the only answer, Kevin. Do I have an answer? Well, I think, you know, I think we have to be prepared for some rough seas ahead. And I have to hope that white people wake up more. We still could, you know, turn things around just the way in Europe.
[00:39:07] They could get this remigration thing going and really clear about. But, you know, it's such an uphill struggle at this point. And so many of our people are totally, you know, involved with this revolution, which is a disaster for white people. And they don't see it.
[00:39:32] And there's a guy that comments on their website. He said, you know, he's talking about a housing project in Menlo Park, California. And they would bring in all these Section 8 people, you know, welfare cases, put them in housing there. It would change the demographic balance, change everything. And he'd talk to these white people and they'd say, well, what about your daughters and stuff like that?
[00:40:00] And he said, well, I hope they marry a Mexican or a black. And that's their attitude. Liberal white people in California are like that. And they just don't see it. But, you know, I've got relatives like that. And they will never change. And it's very sad. And I don't see how to convert them. That's why I say that maybe secession is the only answer.
[00:40:27] You know, how are we going to – I don't want to rule tyrannically over them, but I certainly don't want them ruling tyrannically over us. And I'm going to tell you again, Kevin, and everyone listening, as the music begins to play, I know people are disillusioned with Trump and I understand that. But we don't win by losing harder. And this whole thing coming is going to be very bad. One more democratic – We've got to go. We're out of time. We're absolutely out of time. We'll bring it back. Kevin, we love you, buddy. We'll talk to you again soon. TheOccidentalObserver.net.
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[00:43:38] Last week in Alberta, Canada, tonight in Porto, Portugal, wherever the action is, we're going to be with our friends and correspondents and guests. And in the meantime, you're still going to have all the mainstays. We're still going to play all the hits, pun intended, and tonight with Kevin McDonald. I will say, Keith, I will say, and certainly I am perhaps a biased arbiter on this question,
[00:44:05] but I think in our 22nd year, the show is better than it has ever been. I mean, as we continue to bring in new guests and new voices balanced with the folks who have made their show, what it is for so many years. I mean, what are you getting here? I mean, certainly commentary, opinion, and analysis with regards to politics and current trends
[00:44:30] and news headlines and things like that, but also a commentary on faith and history and culture, as it were, and certainly good music, too. But this is it, and I mean it. I mean, we have not had a dull moment, a dull minute this year. We are still trying to work guests in, and the last couple of weeks has just really quintessential TPC. I agree.
[00:44:55] I think that what we need to understand, also what we do, you know, the Jewish principle is, but is it good for the Jews? And on the political cesspool, our principle is, but is it good for white people? That's what we're looking for, okay? And I think that just to put a cherry on top of the conversation we were having with Kevin, this is what we need to understand.
[00:45:21] You know, as much as you may disagree philosophically with Trump's foreign policy, his domestic policy has been the best domestic policy for white people that I've experienced in my entire lifetime, and I was born in 1951, okay? We need to remember that.
[00:45:43] Also, if the Democrats get in, if the Republicans are punished by those who do not agree with Trump's foreign policy, what will happen is that they will be absolutely ruthless. They will pack the Supreme Court, will never win another case in the Supreme Court. The OJ will be weaponized against anybody who thinks like us. And, oh, by the way, they'll still go to war for the Jews. Make no mistake about it.
[00:46:10] I'm not saying the Republicans deserve to win, but I am just telling you what is going to happen. It's going to be worse on every other issue. And for everybody that's upset about foreign policy, if you believe that just because the Democrats are not in power and they're posturing that they are anti-war all of a sudden, and you think that this party is not equally owned and operated by the Jews, you are wrong. And you'll find that out in 2028 or, I guess, January of 29, God forbid.
[00:46:37] It's like James had said before, two wings of the same bird of prey, the Democrats and the Republicans, when it comes to subservient to Jewish power and influence, neither one of them is any better than the other or any worse. Now, here's our philosophy on that, or at least my philosophy on that is that while they are both equally bad on foreign policy, one is a little bit better on domestic policy, I think, to say the least, and at least will leave us alone and not persecute us and put us in prison.
[00:47:04] I mean, I haven't, you know, the last time I got a call from the Department of Homeland Security was during the Obama administration. We were putting together this thing at Forest Park, and we had a permit for a couple of hundred people. They say the Department of Homeland Security called me. They said, you're going to have more than the people you're saying, you know, and we want you to shut this down. We didn't shut it down. I said, how do you know that? We don't even know who's coming. It's just all word of mouth. I don't know how many are coming. How do you know? We ended up having about as many people that they had in Portugal today, about five or six hundred.
[00:47:34] You remember that one, Keith. That was right. That was in 2015. It doesn't matter whether we'd had a thousand. It was a very well-behaved, mannerly crowd. That's what you can depend on when you have white advocates getting together to demonstrate on their own behalf. The other thing that would happen if the Democrats get in is they would make the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico states. They would have four more senators. They would control the Senate.
[00:48:03] They would do everything they could through lawfare, through Jewish judges like Boesburg and others, to strike down the redistricting that we have done. And then if they win with one of those Jewish District Court judges, when it gets to the Supreme Court, which they were going to pack, they'll win there. So consequently, if you get the Democrats in, you will be punishing yourself if you're a white person
[00:48:31] because you'll never again have a government that is anything other than strictly adversarial to your interests. Everything you don't like about Trump you'll still have, and it'll be much worse on every other issue. That's just all there is to it, and I see it plain as day. But, you know, we'll see. We'll see where it goes. I understand the Republicans may not deserve to win, but making it worse for everybody isn't exactly a winning strategy either. Now, I've got to go to this because we're running out of time.
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[00:49:25] And by the way, the Antelope Hill folks are coming on in the next hour to offer some summer reading suggestions. But similarly with Kevin MacDonald, the only place you could get autographed copies of his third edition of the Culture of Critique last fall, I believe that was our third quarter fundraising drive, was through TPC. David Duke signed hats, you know, these hats from his Senate campaign in the early 90s. Right here, the only place you can get them. Our friends stand with us. You know, we have stood this test of time.
[00:49:54] We have forged relationships. Jared Taylor, we've never done an autographed item from Jared, but we got them now. And they're in stock, and they're right here. And if you check our letter, we hope that you will support us because there's no show like this. It is the first. It is the original. We all know that. But it is the best in so many ways. And we are trying to build a movement that can win.
[00:50:19] And, you know, through our conference last year, Keith, a year ago this week, in fact, very similar to what they were doing in Portugal tonight, bringing elected officials in, past sitting and aspiring and blending them with activists. And things have blossomed from that that are still bearing fruit. Got a letter I want to read very quickly. So many letters and e-mails that come in. But this comes in from a listener in Maryland. And he writes, dear James, hope all is well with you and your family. First, thank you so much for the goodies you sent me.
[00:50:50] And the Sam Dixon book on Lincoln and the CD, I'm enjoying them both immensely. I really enjoyed meeting and chatting with Sam at the celebration in Greenville. That was in South Carolina. What a good man Sam Dixon is. I love hearing him speak as a historian myself, and I really enjoy his knowledge of history. I feel as though you should try to do something for him. Well, we'll see. I mean, what could we do for Sam?
[00:51:19] We certainly want to have him publish a book one day of advice that he can impart to our activists, and we'd certainly love to promote that. But our listener writes, thanks again for all you do on the radio. I know you've sacrificed a lot to get where we are today as a people. We are making progress. I can see it in the way people speak to one another. I do believe our collective racial consciousness is increasing. Our listener in Maryland writes, even if ever so slightly, even in a liberal hellhole like Maryland, we cannot let up.
[00:51:47] I know we need to continue to build on what we have. Get the word out and tell our friends and neighbors how things really are. Realism, encouragement, opportunity, and action. I pray for our success and ultimately our victory every day. And I can't thank you enough for awakening these feelings in me. They were always there beneath the surface. You provided the spark. And please tell Keith I said hello. And he writes his name. And we appreciate you so much there in Maryland. And you know who you are if I'm reading your letter and you're listening tonight. People are blackpilling.
[00:52:17] I understand the tendency in our movement is we're so used to winning. We just, excuse me, we're so used to losing. We'll get used to that feeling later, I think. But we're so used to losing, we feel more comfortable in defeat. And even if things are going good, it's always bad. Even the good things, we find a way to make them appear to be as if they are bad.
[00:52:39] What it is, we've got ever since the Civil Rights Movement, whites have developed a variant form of Stockholm Syndrome. They're basically saying, you know, I can't win, so just stop beating me. I'll agree to anything. Well, that's because Jewish power and influence was in charge of the media, in charge of academia, in charge of the judiciary. And as a result, we couldn't buy a win anywhere.
[00:53:06] So, but the times they are changing, at least in terms of domestic policy. And you need to, you know, you need to accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, and don't mess with Mr. Inbetween. I think, you know, as we talked about tonight in the first hour in Europe, I mean, we were doing it here at our Will to Power Conference last year. We are banging against the ceiling. We have not broken through yet. Let's not be Pollyanna. Pollyannish. Pollyannaish. We still have a ways to go.
[00:53:36] Are we better off now than we were 10 years ago? Are we better off now than we were in October of 2004 when we first went on the air? Unequivocally, yes, in so many ways. I mean, it just defies the belief that people would say that we are not. And I understand, you know, but people might feel more comfortable in defeat. We have to, you know, overdose on black pills, you know, I guess. Don't ever say that things can't be done. You can't do that. Look at this redistricting. Who would have imagined that 20 years ago?
[00:54:02] And so, anyway, I'm just saying there's still a ways to go, but we are certainly further down the trail than we were when I first started this and even further than we were pre-Trump era. And so let's continue to strive. Let's continue to move forth. And if you want to support an entity and an organization that has been a part of it for a long, long time, this entire century so far, pretty much, support our work. We need your support. Jared, we've got the letters out.
[00:54:31] We'd love to have your response before the end of June. We've got some great incentive gifts to sign DVD by Jared. We'll be back with our third and final hour with some summer reading suggestions for you when we come back. Stay tuned.