[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool.
[00:00:12] The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
[00:00:22] And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:01:36] Certainly next week our minds and hearts will turn to the spiritual.
[00:01:41] It'll be our last show before Christmas, as is our tradition.
[00:01:45] Pastor Brett McAtee will be back on with us next week to share with us the biblical account of the birth of Christ.
[00:01:53] We're also going to take you into the homes of four TPC listening families and give you kind of a behind-the-scenes tour of how they celebrate Christmas.
[00:02:06] And we'll get into a topic of their choosing.
[00:02:10] I think that'll be fun, how each of these families celebrate Christmas and a political topic of their choosing.
[00:02:16] And then also next week, Sam Bushman, the owner of the Liberty News Radio Network, will be with us to share with you some good news about things that are happening behind the scenes.
[00:02:25] We'll tell you as much as we can.
[00:02:27] But there is a lot going on that I think puts this network and these programs sort of in a position that really I don't know if anybody else in our collective is quite at.
[00:02:42] It is – I'll leave it at that for now.
[00:02:46] But there is a lot of reasons for optimism for the coming year, and that's what's coming up next week.
[00:02:55] We're going to have a big grand finale the week after that.
[00:02:57] That'll be our last show of the year.
[00:03:00] Big grand finale that week for the last show of our 20th anniversary year.
[00:03:04] And then we'll kick off 2025, the first week in January, with one of these shows, 12 guests, 12 segments,
[00:03:09] doing sort of a New Year's kickoff with predictions for 2025 and all of that.
[00:03:16] Sometimes we do that show, the last show of the year.
[00:03:18] This year we're going to do it the first show of 2025.
[00:03:20] So that's what's coming up.
[00:03:22] But I'll tell you what's coming up next in the next segment is Brad Griffin, the editor-in-chief and founder of OccidentalDissent.com.
[00:03:29] A lot to get to with Brad and Jason.
[00:03:32] So time to get serious here for the rest of the show, I guess.
[00:03:36] But first, Keith, I just want to mention again, Keith is holding in his hand the golden ticket.
[00:03:42] I told Keith he can go down to the University of Memphis,
[00:03:44] and he flashes this featured interview with him in the Barnes Review,
[00:03:50] and he's going to be having to knock off those sorority girls with a baseball bat.
[00:03:54] Well, there's a first time for everything, but I doubt that that's going to happen.
[00:04:01] But it does look good, does it not?
[00:04:03] So this is the – let me see it here.
[00:04:05] This is out now, and we actually posted the transcript at thepoliticalcessible.org.
[00:04:12] I keep biting into that apple with relish here.
[00:04:15] That crunched my ears, that bite was so loud.
[00:04:18] That reverberated my eardrums.
[00:04:20] But Keith does like to eat.
[00:04:22] You know, you can work up an appetite here on the radio.
[00:04:25] But this is the November, December 2024 issue of the Barnes Review,
[00:04:32] which, of course, brings history into accord with the facts.
[00:04:35] And there's a big ad from our friends at Antelope Hill Publishing right here on page 9.
[00:04:41] We'll hear from them next week, Warren – excuse me, not next week, but in two weeks,
[00:04:45] them and Warren Balog.
[00:04:46] And, well, anyway, I'm not going to give away everything coming up in the next few weeks,
[00:04:50] but it's going to be a lot of fun.
[00:04:51] But Keith has an article in here that we mentioned just for a moment last week.
[00:04:55] It's a Q&A.
[00:04:58] And, Keith, again, folks, you can catch the entire transcript at thepoliticalcessible.org.
[00:05:04] We were waiting for the Barnes Review to have exclusivity on it for a few days.
[00:05:09] Kevin MacDonald has posted it at theoccidentalobserver.net.
[00:05:12] So a lot of people are reading it this week, Keith, through the Barnes Review.
[00:05:15] That has now been delivered and at TPC and at TOO.
[00:05:20] 60 seconds.
[00:05:21] You've got to – actually, you've got to – you've got to promotion.
[00:05:24] They refer to you as Memphis attorney and historian, Keith Alexander.
[00:05:28] You're uncensored here.
[00:05:29] They put Keith Alexander, J.D.
[00:05:31] I said that stood for juvenile delinquent.
[00:05:35] But it's a great interview.
[00:05:37] It reads with longtime Southern rights activist, historian, and attorney from Memphis.
[00:05:42] Keith Alexander is – you're now, by the way, a member of the Barnes Review editorial board.
[00:05:48] So congratulations on that.
[00:05:49] I'm very gratified to receive that.
[00:05:51] But this is a good interview.
[00:05:52] You know, of course, I've worked with you for so long.
[00:05:55] You know, it seems like there's nothing –
[00:05:56] You knew all the questions, Dan.
[00:05:57] Well, I wanted to get stuff that would set you up to succeed, but it really was.
[00:06:02] I reread it.
[00:06:03] We actually worked on this.
[00:06:04] Sometimes when you're doing something for a magazine, it's sort of like making a movie.
[00:06:08] You shoot the movie, and then it comes out months later.
[00:06:11] Well, we actually did this.
[00:06:12] We put this together back in the summer, late summer, I believe.
[00:06:15] And it just now got published, and sometimes you – that's just the way the schedule falls.
[00:06:21] But it is out now.
[00:06:22] And I actually reread it for the first time in a couple of months when I posted it to
[00:06:28] bepoliticalsessable.org this week.
[00:06:30] And it is very good.
[00:06:31] Just – I don't want to dwell on it.
[00:06:33] People, go read it for yourself.
[00:06:34] But 60-second summation of what it was.
[00:06:36] I know we mentioned it in passing at the end of the show last week, but it's out now.
[00:06:40] We got it in the – got it in the mail.
[00:06:41] You can't take that for granted.
[00:06:43] It did get delivered this week.
[00:06:45] Laquanda was back on the job.
[00:06:47] But what are people going to read in this?
[00:06:49] 60 seconds.
[00:06:50] Well, everybody has their niche.
[00:06:51] And my niche is that I go back to the first days of the Civil Rights Movement.
[00:06:56] Born in 1951, I was already racially aware by 1955, if you can believe that, which was
[00:07:03] the very beginning of it.
[00:07:04] The Montgomery bus boycott was in the summer of 55.
[00:07:09] I remember all of that.
[00:07:11] I remember everything else.
[00:07:13] I remember Ole Miss.
[00:07:14] I remember the lunch counter protests and things like this.
[00:07:20] And I was actually working on the night when Martin Luther King was killed in Memphis.
[00:07:25] I was working down at the Memphis Publishing Company in the mail room.
[00:07:30] And basically, we were – everybody was shut down.
[00:07:35] We had to sneak home during – through back roads and everything because all the main roads
[00:07:41] were blocked off.
[00:07:42] So I remember all of this stuff vividly.
[00:07:45] And I think that I have, because of that, a unique perspective on the entire transformation of America that ensued.
[00:07:54] And really, the first shot at killing the old America and delivering the birth of the new America, the lesser America that we are forced to live in today.
[00:08:10] I think that I have a unique perspective on things like that.
[00:08:14] And that's really – if I have anything unique to offer, that's it.
[00:08:18] The reason we brought it up last week and again tonight is because it really is worthy of your taking a moment to read it.
[00:08:24] So if you get the Barnes Review, read it in that.
[00:08:27] Be sure to subscribe to the Barnes Review if you're not already.
[00:08:29] We – it's a sister publication to the American Free Press, and we write for both of them.
[00:08:35] By the way, my upcoming features in the American Free Press, I mean, we really are kind of all over the place here on the radio,
[00:08:41] in a newspaper, in this magazine, reaching a lot of people.
[00:08:44] One of the things I did in that article was try to bring it down to a personal level.
[00:08:48] What happened to people when they integrated the schools, for example?
[00:08:52] How did that have an effect on average people in places like Memphis that had to cope with this sudden change?
[00:09:02] It's worth a read, folks.
[00:09:04] And so, too, was an interview we did for American Free Press.
[00:09:09] The most recent issue had Michael Hill.
[00:09:12] The forthcoming issue is going to have Lou Moore, who, of course, is part of our Christmas fundraising incentive gift package.
[00:09:20] Ron Paul's former campaign manager, presidential campaign manager in 2008.
[00:09:24] He wrote a book about it, signed it, and sent a few boxes to us this Christmas season.
[00:09:31] Lou Moore is actually with Jared Taylor tonight in Dallas.
[00:09:35] So it's just exciting to know that through TPC – I know Lou has already – I mean, you know,
[00:09:42] Lou created his own gravity before us.
[00:09:44] But I'm just saying through us, he is now being asked to go to other functions such as this.
[00:09:52] So there's a great group of activists in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and I mean a really vibrant network down there.
[00:10:02] We've had the opportunity to tap into that a couple of times.
[00:10:05] We were down there twice last year for events, and we'll be going back again.
[00:10:09] I can't announce the details of this yet, but it will be sometime in the spring.
[00:10:14] I was just talking to a good friend of mine down there.
[00:10:18] He and his family are just incredible people and a big supporter of the show,
[00:10:24] and he's one of the leaders of this group down there,
[00:10:27] and we're going to do something with them in the springtime, late March, early April, I believe.
[00:10:32] But anyway, tonight Jared Taylor and Lou Moore, the former campaign manager for Ron Paul, are at a Christmas event.
[00:10:41] It's a lot of people – packed room, and both Lou and Jared are going to be speaking at that.
[00:10:47] And so again, this is just, you know, TPC playing a role behind the scenes,
[00:10:50] getting people plugged in and getting them out there.
[00:10:54] And I got a few pictures from this event a few minutes before showtime.
[00:10:58] Lacey Lynn's down there.
[00:11:00] Everybody's looking good and festive.
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[00:13:26] We certainly do what we can to make every day be like Christmas here at TPC and at occidentaldescent.com as well.
[00:13:49] And rejoining us now.
[00:13:51] And we're also going to tip the hat to Elvis whenever possible.
[00:13:54] That's right.
[00:13:55] Back with us now is the founder and editor-in-chief of OD, Brad Griffin.
[00:14:01] Brad has informed opinions, and he informs the opinions of us here at TPC.
[00:14:08] So often we cite him in public talks and on the program and wherever else we may be.
[00:14:17] Always great.
[00:14:18] Brad is one of the few websites I go to every day.
[00:14:20] Brad, how are you doing tonight?
[00:14:21] And Merry Christmas to you and Renee and your growing family.
[00:14:25] Merry Christmas, y'all.
[00:14:26] We're doing great.
[00:14:29] Glad to be back.
[00:14:30] It's great to have you back.
[00:14:31] I know you just got back home a few minutes ago, so you've been running around.
[00:14:35] And it's a Saturday night in mid-December, so there's a lot of other places you could be and things you could be doing.
[00:14:41] So we thank you for carving out a few minutes for us tonight.
[00:14:43] But I was just looking, my friend, at the last time you appeared.
[00:14:46] I mean, you are a regular guest.
[00:14:48] You're on throughout the year pretty regularly.
[00:14:51] I guess hence the term regular guest.
[00:14:53] But the last time you were on with us was November the 2nd.
[00:14:57] So that was the last Saturday before the election.
[00:15:01] So let's just start there.
[00:15:04] So we haven't talked to you on the air since Trump was reelected.
[00:15:08] How would you grade?
[00:15:10] We've asked a lot of people this, but I'd really like to hear your opinion.
[00:15:14] Man, it seems like things are changing.
[00:15:16] And is that fool's gold, Brad?
[00:15:19] I mean, we've been around.
[00:15:20] You and I have both been in this our entire adult lives.
[00:15:22] We're about the same age.
[00:15:24] We've been doing this since we were teenagers.
[00:15:26] Keith longer than us.
[00:15:26] But this time, I mean, does it feel different to you?
[00:15:29] Oh, yes, definitely.
[00:15:30] Without question.
[00:15:34] We're not in 2016 anymore.
[00:15:38] So how would you qualify that?
[00:15:40] I mean, what would you point to?
[00:15:42] A lot of people.
[00:15:43] How much change do you really anticipate happening because of Trump's victory this time?
[00:15:48] Good question.
[00:15:51] Well, to be honest, it's really been a process that's played out over 10 years.
[00:15:58] Going back to, I remember, the mood after he first won.
[00:16:04] And, you know, he was surrounded by establishment hacks.
[00:16:08] And things quickly, you know, got off on the wrong foot.
[00:16:13] He had Mike Pence, who was essentially running the government.
[00:16:17] And everyone believed he won in a fluke.
[00:16:22] And then it was, you know, the consensus was that it must have been Russia that got him in.
[00:16:29] And to go from there to, like, where we are now, it's not about, like, what will change.
[00:16:35] It's like what has changed.
[00:16:37] And that, I don't know, you could say maybe at the beginning it was like maybe 5%, 7% of the way to where we are now.
[00:16:47] Now it's like 90% in terms of Trump's conquest of the party, his ability to define it.
[00:16:56] But he's been educated by the process he's gone through, don't you think?
[00:17:01] Oh, yes.
[00:17:02] And it's not just that.
[00:17:03] I mean, his followers have, you know, I mean, we've been over the polls here a million times.
[00:17:10] Just the degree to which opinion has shifted.
[00:17:13] You know, he's out there parading around with Daniel Penny today.
[00:17:19] Isn't that incredible?
[00:17:20] I mean, I tell you what, if you can survive one of these.
[00:17:23] It's just a small thing, you know, but, I mean, can you imagine someone like Mitt Romney doing that?
[00:17:30] No, it's so good.
[00:17:31] I mean, hopefully the days of the Mitt Romneys of the Republican Party is gone forever.
[00:17:35] And the reason why I like having Brad on to talk about things like this is because, again, we have a pretty extensive Rolodex here.
[00:17:44] And everybody we bring on this program is a thoughtful commentator.
[00:17:48] They are either an expert on a particular issue or just good in general conversation or all of the above.
[00:17:53] I mean, there's something that brings them here that makes them a standout guest.
[00:17:56] We never just have somebody on just to fill time.
[00:17:59] If somebody is on this program, it's for very good reason.
[00:18:02] But Brad, I think, you know, one of the things I love about Brad is go and read his post at OccidentalDissent.com from December 6th, just a few days ago.
[00:18:14] 2024 predictions in retrospect.
[00:18:16] Brad has an uncanny ability to call things, to see things before they happened.
[00:18:22] It's called prescience.
[00:18:23] And, Brad, I mean, you had 17 points here.
[00:18:26] Now, you didn't get the Alabama.
[00:18:28] I didn't get everyone.
[00:18:29] You didn't get Alabama.
[00:18:30] You didn't see.
[00:18:31] I didn't get the football one.
[00:18:33] Yeah, he picked Alabama to win the.
[00:18:36] I'm an Auburn guy.
[00:18:37] You're an Auburn guy, for heaven's sake.
[00:18:39] What caused you to do that?
[00:18:41] He wasn't bullish on Jim Harbaugh in Michigan last year.
[00:18:46] But Jim Harbaugh had to win that one because he was going to have a lot of problems if he didn't go to the pros.
[00:18:50] That one was really like a throwaway point because, you know, all the other ones were about.
[00:18:54] Oh, yeah.
[00:18:55] That was your 17th point.
[00:18:56] But out of the first 16, the stuff that really matters to us, it was like check, check, check, check, check.
[00:19:03] So I won't ask you to go through all of them, but what would you say from that content are things that were the big ones for the audience to reconsider?
[00:19:16] Well, specifically, I remember, you know, this time last year when we were wondering what was going to happen this year.
[00:19:23] A lot of people who came on the show, you know, were certain that, you know, Trump would be thrown in prison, that he wouldn't make it.
[00:19:30] He wouldn't be the nominee and all this stuff.
[00:19:35] I specifically wanted to dodge a lot of landmines, didn't he?
[00:19:37] I remember Brad coming on.
[00:19:42] I couldn't see how he would get around all the legal stuff, but, you know, ultimately he did.
[00:19:48] It just kind of – it was like a fog, and it just kind of like –
[00:19:51] I do believe –
[00:19:52] Fog was being a divine intervention.
[00:19:54] I believe, Brad, that you were our last guest of our prediction show, which was the last show of December of last year.
[00:20:02] And you called a lot of these things, and then you put them into print.
[00:20:07] But all of that – I mean, and so, again, when you can go and look at this man's track record of things he has called that have come to pass, it puts a value.
[00:20:16] And he just gave one example there, Trump not going to prison, now being reelected, which is the greatest political comeback in American politics ever.
[00:20:23] Oh, also, you know, last time we talked, I called everything right.
[00:20:28] I said he would win the national popular vote.
[00:20:30] I said he would win all the swing states.
[00:20:31] So that was just as recently as November the 2nd.
[00:20:34] So, again –
[00:20:35] It was like serendipity, the foiled assassination attempts, you know, his – everything that – you know, his McDonald's caper and, you know,
[00:20:50] just so many things that he just, you know, just seemed to stumble from one situation to another, and every one of them was solid gold.
[00:20:57] Yeah, he struck gold with a lot of them.
[00:20:59] But the reason I bring up Brad's predictions from last year is to just sort of set a – remind you of this baseline of being able to see things.
[00:21:07] So, again, that having been reestablished, Brad, moving forward, you have been very high on a lot, not all, but most of his picks for his incoming administration.
[00:21:19] Again, very different from 2016.
[00:21:22] So, do you see him, even if not for the reasons we would have him wage war, do you see him going in there as somebody on a revenge tour, as you've often called it,
[00:21:32] and making change for the better, even if for reasons personal to him?
[00:21:37] Yes.
[00:21:38] I mean, I really do think he is going to try to get even with his enemies.
[00:21:45] Because, I mean, we saw what happened.
[00:21:47] We saw, I mean, his whole first term was a lesson in, oh, we're not going to lock her up.
[00:21:52] Oh, we're going to heal the country.
[00:21:56] Oh, you know, we need to move forward and stuff and have bipartisan legislation and stuff.
[00:22:03] And, you know, he knows who he's dealing with now.
[00:22:07] I mean, a lot of the stuff that happened to him, I mean, during his presidency, he had the two impeachments and stuff,
[00:22:12] and that was always there, but, you know, trying to destroy his business, his wife's bank accounts being canceled.
[00:22:23] Her underwear drawer being ransacked.
[00:22:28] Right, right.
[00:22:29] You know, being deplatformed from the Internet.
[00:22:31] He really, you know, his life, you know, really, and fortune really was on the line.
[00:22:38] He knows how vicious these people are.
[00:22:39] He knows all what he is.
[00:22:42] What about our friend Joe Biden, though?
[00:22:44] Has he gone off the rails or what?
[00:22:48] You know, I think Joe checked out a long time ago.
[00:22:51] He's not all there.
[00:22:52] I'll be happy to answer that other than that.
[00:22:54] I think he's gone.
[00:22:56] Somebody is turning him into Darth Vader.
[00:23:00] While we're looking forward, I got an easy, my top prediction for next year, which is an obvious one,
[00:23:07] is that Clarence Thomas is going to retire from the Supreme Court and he will be replaced.
[00:23:13] That's interesting.
[00:23:14] That's interesting.
[00:23:16] So if Trump can take advantage of some of the aging conservatives, let's call them that,
[00:23:21] I mean, you're talking about he's owning the Supreme Court for the next 30 years.
[00:23:27] Yes.
[00:23:27] How they can replace Clarence Thomas unless they resurrect Anthony Scalia.
[00:23:32] Well, it'd have to be, you know, that's a pretty tall bar.
[00:23:34] There's no doubt.
[00:23:35] Thomas is going to retire and because they have 53 senators,
[00:23:39] they'll obviously try to replace him with someone younger to, you know, secure that majority.
[00:23:44] Well, you have mentioned, though, that, you know, so oftentimes people hold Trump accountable for not doing this,
[00:23:52] not doing that, and I'm not saying a lot of that is not legitimate, but you still,
[00:23:56] in order to get anything done, he has to thread this needle in the Senate, which is, you know,
[00:24:02] you've got a two narrow margins there, and you only have to have a couple of people, a couple of sore hands.
[00:24:10] Yeah, I mean, these tight margins, they empower, you know, the big rhino out there, you know.
[00:24:19] Lisa Murkowski and people like that.
[00:24:21] Well, you've got people like that, and then you've got these principled losers like Rand Paul,
[00:24:27] you know, who I agree with on some things, but he is a principled beautiful loser.
[00:24:34] Well, no, Thomas Massey's great, but Rand Paul is, you know, can be a, he has a beautiful loser tendency,
[00:24:41] as Sam Francis called it, and he's already talking about opposing some of this stuff on the border.
[00:24:46] But we'll be right back to talk about that.
[00:24:48] Stay tuned with Brad Griffin.
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[00:25:59] TikTok has challenged a Canadian government order to shut down the Chinese video-sharing
[00:26:04] app's business operations in the country that was imposed over national security concerns.
[00:26:10] The company says it filed an application for a judicial review with the federal court in Vancouver.
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[00:26:20] The Canadian federal government last month announced it was ordering TikTok's dissolution
[00:26:25] after a national security review of its Chinese parent company, ByteDance.
[00:26:29] Bob Agner reporting.
[00:26:31] The Greek Coast Guard says at least five migrants have died, an unknown number are missing,
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[00:26:48] In the ongoing operation, 39 people were rescued and taken to Crete.
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[00:27:00] Secretary of State Antony Blinken says there needs to be a coordinated effort to help create
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[00:27:24] After more than a decade of conflict and many decades of corruption, humanitarian needs
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[00:27:32] Blinken says American officials have been in direct contact with a Syrian rebel group that
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[00:30:00] I'm going to lose my chance if I don't do it right now.
[00:30:55] And this is something I think I've done every year at Christmas time.
[00:30:58] And that is thank Phil Spector for his contributions to pop Christmas music.
[00:31:02] And that's his Christmas gift for you right there.
[00:31:06] Yeah, that's a great one.
[00:31:08] But I just discovered one the other day that I had forgotten about.
[00:31:12] Daddy looked a lot like Santa Claus.
[00:31:14] Santa Claus looked a lot like him.
[00:31:16] Have you ever heard that one?
[00:31:16] I haven't heard that one.
[00:31:18] I have not heard that one.
[00:31:18] Jack Ryan always has some interesting Christmas ditties to recommend.
[00:31:22] But next week we're going to move to the spiritual.
[00:31:25] We're going to play the classic hymns and carols and not this fun stuff.
[00:31:30] It is fun, though.
[00:31:32] Always good to have Brad Griffin on.
[00:31:35] Love Brad like a brother.
[00:31:37] His wife, his family, his in-laws, the late great.
[00:31:40] Go way back.
[00:31:41] Gordon Baum.
[00:31:42] Gordon Baum and Linda.
[00:31:43] I actually sent Linda a little Christmas present this week.
[00:31:47] So she'll be getting that soon, I hope.
[00:31:50] Fingers crossed down here with everything going on.
[00:31:53] But anyway, Brad, back to what we're talking about.
[00:31:56] So we were talking before the break.
[00:31:59] You know, Trump still has to navigate narrow margins in the House and even narrower margins in the Senate.
[00:32:07] So you can only afford a couple of left-wing Republicans like Murkowski defecting.
[00:32:11] And then even these beautiful losers like Rand Paul, who already said, hey, if he's going to send in troops to New York to round up the illegals, I'm not going to vote for that.
[00:32:19] So that's a problem.
[00:32:20] But at the same time, we will deal with that problem when he gets inaugurated.
[00:32:25] Right now, though, Brad, it's all good vibes.
[00:32:27] You have it posted in Occidental Dissent, his Meet the Press interview, where he's saying, yeah, we are doing these deportations.
[00:32:34] You know, it would be easy for you to think that that was just a campaign ploy.
[00:32:38] That's a big promise you don't deliver.
[00:32:41] But it seems as though he is sort of committing to this.
[00:32:45] And no matter what, it has become a winning issue, not just securing the border, but physical deportations are a winning issue in American politics.
[00:32:53] Brad, speak to that.
[00:32:55] Well, I mean, comparing and contrasting, you know, this is going to be like it was last time.
[00:33:00] If I remember correctly, last time, the number one issue when they started out, you know, when Trump came right out of the gate in 2017 with all the momentum of winning that election.
[00:33:12] And he was at, you know, he had his most political capital, and he chose to spend it on a fight to repeal Obamacare that ended in defeat with, you know, we were talking about these narrow margins in the House and Senate.
[00:33:27] And it was like, you know, when John McCain single-handedly tanked that around the time of Charlottesville, I want to say, when it went up in flames.
[00:33:36] But this time, this time around, the difference is this time, immigration is going to be next year.
[00:33:44] It's going to be the top issue.
[00:33:45] It's going to be not on the back burner.
[00:33:48] It's going to be on the front burner.
[00:33:49] And that's the first thing they're going to come right out of the gate.
[00:33:52] They're going to jump on that.
[00:33:53] They're going to try to get Congress to pass some kind of border security bill.
[00:34:00] I don't know, like, what the ultimate fate of – there will be a lot of stuff which will come down in the form of executive orders, like the birthright citizenship thing.
[00:34:11] All that's going to do is set up a court fight over the issue.
[00:34:15] There will be a huge flurry of executive orders.
[00:34:19] They're going to try to close the border.
[00:34:21] They're going to start to deport illegal aliens, and they're going to try to pass some border security bill.
[00:34:27] Wasn't there something that happened, Brad, about trying to sell off parts of –
[00:34:34] The border wall?
[00:34:35] Yeah, for the border wall for $5 each, and some businessman bought it all back and is offering it to the Trump administration.
[00:34:42] Am I wrong about that?
[00:34:44] Oh, I haven't heard that part, but I knew I heard about them trying to sell it off, but I haven't heard it all.
[00:34:49] You just said it.
[00:34:51] If I remember correctly, last time there was a huge legal – he tried – the border wall funding was a thing, a morass that went on for years, and it finally got settled in the – it was a Supreme Court decision, I want to say, that said they could use Defense Department funds to build it.
[00:35:11] And that happened way too late in the U.S.
[00:35:14] It was a term to really get started on it that much.
[00:35:19] And nothing much was accomplished in him because COVID hit and the economy crashed, and that consumed Trump's last year in office.
[00:35:29] But this time, I mean, he has all these legal precedents already set out.
[00:35:36] He's got a clear mandate on – no one disputes that immigration won him the election and the popular vote.
[00:35:45] And even more tellingly, like he cleaned up with Hispanics while running on mass deportations.
[00:35:52] So, you know, they can't make the argument –
[00:35:54] It's remarkable.
[00:35:56] This is going to make us –
[00:35:57] The thing is, Hispanics want 1950s America.
[00:36:00] They didn't come here for Sanford and something.
[00:36:02] They came here for Leave it to Beaver.
[00:36:04] And we have Jose Nino, our friend at American Free Press, and he does his own podcast and Substack, and he's great on these issues.
[00:36:11] I mean, he can just pinpoint exactly what the pulse of the Hispanic community and why they are breaking right on some of these issues.
[00:36:18] Well, again, Brad, though, this has become winning issues of physical militant deportations.
[00:36:24] And just one quick pivot back to the administration.
[00:36:30] You are pleased at large with some of these picks.
[00:36:34] What are the picks that have been proposed that you think are exceptionally good?
[00:36:42] Well, obviously, Stephen Miller, you know, is being put in charge of immigration policy.
[00:36:49] I think he's like a deputy senior advisor or something like that.
[00:36:52] But Homan has a lot of experience with that, and he's got – I want to say he put Peter Navarro in charge of trade policy, if I'm not mistaken.
[00:37:03] Yeah, you have that up on OD as well.
[00:37:07] Yeah, yeah, and he had some other ones.
[00:37:12] Of course, I don't know what's going to become of the Elon Musk Department of Government Efficiency, but if they can find some way –
[00:37:21] Vivek and Elon.
[00:37:23] Well, you know, they were talking about bringing Ron Paul into that.
[00:37:26] So, you know, Ron is – you know, the father's a little more steadfast than the son.
[00:37:30] I like Ron Paul on a lot of things.
[00:37:32] I hope they find a way to, like, you know, drastically reduce federal employment with contractors in all of northern Virginia and just empty that whole region out.
[00:37:42] You said that, Keith.
[00:37:43] That's exactly what you said a couple of weeks ago.
[00:37:45] Right.
[00:37:46] Yeah, and another thing I'd like to see with Ron Paul is have him affect the – a non-interventionist approach to our foreign policy.
[00:37:55] Look, it does seem real right now, Brad.
[00:37:58] I mean, again, we will have all the time in the world to be disappointed come mid-January and for the next four years.
[00:38:05] But right now –
[00:38:06] Now –
[00:38:06] Hope springs to time.
[00:38:06] Right now there is reason to be dropping white pills and to be hopeful.
[00:38:11] Right.
[00:38:11] Hopefully it will actually go from theory to practice.
[00:38:15] But in terms of a lot of this stuff, I mean, by this point in 2016, there were already a lot – there was a lot of head scratching going on.
[00:38:22] Right now it appears as though Trump is doubling down.
[00:38:25] I mean, people like Tulsi Gabbard, for instance, and some of these others.
[00:38:28] I mean, these are good – these are good picks.
[00:38:31] What I'm expecting next year – first, I think he will try to wind down the wars with Russia and Ukraine, with Iran, with Lebanon, all these wars.
[00:38:45] What's happening with Syria?
[00:38:46] Is that – is that intended to humiliate Putin?
[00:38:49] Putin, is that the whole purpose behind that?
[00:38:53] Yeah, I'm not – it happened so fast it makes me wonder if there was some kind of backroom – a lot of people, you know, have speculated there was some kind of backroom deal where we'll pull back from Ukraine and Russia will pull back from Syria and Iran will retreat to Iran.
[00:39:12] And, of course, BB Netanyahu's grinning like a mule eating briars.
[00:39:15] Well, maybe Assad was just ready to retire to Russia.
[00:39:18] Who knows?
[00:39:18] Also, equally – another huge important thing is the Republican Party exists to cut taxes, and they're going to use budget reconciliation to renew the tax cuts next year.
[00:39:31] They're going to do some kind of fiscal tax package.
[00:39:34] And I have absolutely no doubt that that will pass.
[00:39:38] So you can count on that.
[00:39:41] It's not exactly my top issue, but he'll try to do anything he can to get up energy production, although Biden already had energy production going pretty well.
[00:39:57] Actually, that's something that –
[00:39:58] Like, even despite his instincts to go the other direction on that.
[00:40:03] Well, when you have the White House, the Supreme Court, the House, and the Senate, I mean, you know, with an asterisk, it is a narrow margin.
[00:40:10] We talked about some of the potential defectors.
[00:40:13] But you should be able to get done more than tax cuts.
[00:40:15] So what do you think we will actually see?
[00:40:18] What's the best-case scenario of the week?
[00:40:20] Yeah, next year they're going to focus on, obviously, cabinet confirmations, the tax cuts.
[00:40:27] Immigration will be the top issue.
[00:40:29] Also, like I said, I predict judges in that they'll have – they'll try to replace Clarence Thomas.
[00:40:38] There ought to be a lot of room left in our jails because Joe Biden's going to empty them.
[00:40:43] I'm not saying –
[00:40:47] There'll be plenty of score settling, you know, purging –
[00:40:50] I hope so.
[00:40:51] I want to warm up the popcorn and watch the show.
[00:40:54] I hope he does do that.
[00:40:55] We'll be right back with the great Brad Griffith in one more segment.
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[00:42:15] and it paid into the road there.
[00:42:16] Her door flung open.
[00:42:18] She ran out across the street to get away from it, and the other three boys were trapped in it,
[00:42:24] and the car exploded.
[00:42:27] And then when my mom found out about it, she called me at work.
[00:42:30] I don't care what you have to do.
[00:42:31] Just get up here to the hospital.
[00:42:33] I parked my car, and I went inside, and they took us back to this little room.
[00:42:38] My mom told me that Jake had been killed, and I lost it.
[00:42:46] The other people, because they're like, well, you can drink, but just be careful when you drink, you know?
[00:42:52] So I don't want anything to do with it, because it took my brother away from me.
[00:42:56] A public service message from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
[00:43:00] That was sent from our friend Christine, who was on the air with David Duke last week
[00:43:41] as he was taking his victory lap for his recent appearances with Jake Shields and the Hodge twins,
[00:43:48] and that was actually the Russian Red Army Choir singing Little Drummer Boy.
[00:43:53] And that has been something.
[00:43:54] Listen, folks, laugh about it, cry about it, shout about it.
[00:43:58] The faith that we celebrate at Christmastime has bound whites together for a long, long time,
[00:44:06] and I'm not so sure we would even be here if it were not for the faith
[00:44:10] and how it united the squabbling nationalities of Europe at tours.
[00:44:15] This is the faith that Russia shares with us.
[00:44:18] We need to remember that.
[00:44:19] Tours in Vienna, and we talked about the Christmas truce of World War I in the first hour,
[00:44:25] and then here even in the time of communism, this was something.
[00:44:33] So something to be remembered.
[00:44:37] There's a lot of good things, as Brad knows and as he's written about,
[00:44:40] that's going on in Christian nationalism right now that's very encouraging.
[00:44:46] But, I mean, certainly it's a boon time for Donald Trump and the incoming Trump administration.
[00:44:52] No doubt about that, Brad.
[00:44:53] But let's get down to this.
[00:44:55] How good is it for us as pro-white advocates?
[00:44:58] Because I think people could say, well, yes, they are talking about our issues now.
[00:45:03] They are even aping our issues.
[00:45:05] But, you know, so many people fall into this mindset that nothing good can ever happen.
[00:45:11] It just appears to be good because they're deflux.
[00:45:17] Eternal pessimists.
[00:45:18] Yes, you know, but I think, Brad, you know, what are we doing?
[00:45:22] What are we here for?
[00:45:24] What do you do your work for?
[00:45:25] What do we do this radio program for, if not to serve as influencers,
[00:45:29] that hopefully someone up the food chain will take our talking points
[00:45:35] and take them to places where we couldn't?
[00:45:38] I think you're seeing that now.
[00:45:39] And also, we need to remember that the Russians are a Christian nation,
[00:45:44] and all of the people that are there, the tractors, are for the most part anti-Christian.
[00:45:51] Okay.
[00:45:51] Even over here.
[00:45:52] And we need to keep that in mind.
[00:45:54] Well, that's a separate issue.
[00:45:54] But, yes.
[00:45:55] But, Brad, as far as pro-white advocacy is concerned,
[00:46:00] I mean, do you see this as a good thing that, you know,
[00:46:04] our issues are getting a hearing now at, really, the top levels of American politics?
[00:46:10] I don't see how it could be anything but a good thing, right?
[00:46:14] I don't know.
[00:46:16] But it's like, is it, this is what, I mean, this is what I've always wanted.
[00:46:21] I've always wanted my, I've always wanted to be just, you know, to have, like, normal politics.
[00:46:27] I don't want to, like, you know, go spend my entire life as a, you know,
[00:46:35] marginalized, outsider, extremist, radical.
[00:46:38] And also, I mean, there's costs to that, you know.
[00:46:42] The more normalized our politics are, the harder it is to single out anybody,
[00:46:47] to get people fired from their jobs, you know, label someone a real dangerous hater.
[00:46:53] Wouldn't it be nice if, you know, we could just, I don't know,
[00:46:56] throw a party at a, or book a conference anywhere we want?
[00:47:01] That would be, maybe that's too much to hope for out of a Trump term.
[00:47:06] But, although it just seems to be honest.
[00:47:08] I've always wanted Russia and America to stand together because they are another white nation.
[00:47:16] All right.
[00:47:17] And we need to keep that in mind.
[00:47:19] If Trump does nothing else and we come back a year from now
[00:47:23] and he's ended that devastating war in some kind of armistice and truce,
[00:47:28] then it will definitely be worth it.
[00:47:31] That was one of the major things, you know, like, you're talking about,
[00:47:34] like, how do we convince these people who are overly cynical?
[00:47:36] Like, I think that is the problem.
[00:47:39] Like, I really saw that in myself after 2020.
[00:47:44] It's like, you know, I was so negative, so,
[00:47:47] took the most cynical view of everything while Trump was president.
[00:47:51] And then, you know, when Biden started the war with Russia
[00:47:55] and, you know, hundreds of thousands of people in Ukraine on both sides,
[00:48:01] you know, the war died.
[00:48:02] That really put things in perspective, right?
[00:48:05] I mean, is he really that bad?
[00:48:08] Did he let in, like, 10 million illegal aliens?
[00:48:10] Did he start a war with Russia?
[00:48:12] Yes, exactly.
[00:48:14] And I tell you.
[00:48:15] A fourth of our standard of living, and, you know,
[00:48:17] and, you know, that really put things in, I mean, it did radicalize people,
[00:48:23] but, you know, and also had huge costs.
[00:48:26] Well, I mean, look, I mean, we have taken a will to power here,
[00:48:30] and you look here.
[00:48:32] So here's one thing at occidentaldissent.com right now.
[00:48:36] Candace Owens interviews USS Liberty Survivor.
[00:48:39] This is Phil Turner on this show.
[00:48:40] So it's been on this show a lot of times, and this video has over a million views.
[00:48:46] So we know that the word is getting out.
[00:48:50] It's 2 million now.
[00:48:51] All right.
[00:48:51] So listen, so this is, you know, that's broken through.
[00:48:54] Now, Candace Owens is making a lot of money, but she's saying the right thing.
[00:48:58] She's doing the right things.
[00:49:00] She's saying the things that we said 10 years ago.
[00:49:03] But I don't care who gets the credit.
[00:49:04] It's all about, you know, we all want to do well.
[00:49:08] We all want to live decently, but it's about the cause winning.
[00:49:12] You know, I am a collectivist, not an individualist when it comes to this.
[00:49:15] So if somebody has jealous at all, we congratulate her.
[00:49:17] No, she's doing the right thing.
[00:49:19] But I'm just saying it's a result of those who has stoked the embers for so long behind the scenes.
[00:49:24] And this thing with David Duke going to Las Vegas and interviewing with all of these people.
[00:49:29] You know, we had friends who were in Las Vegas last week who were with Jake Shields and Dan Bilzerian.
[00:49:35] And I could tell you right now in Dallas, Brad, Lou Moore, Ron Paul's presidential campaign manager, former chief of staff for Jack Metcalf is with Jared Taylor.
[00:49:48] They are speaking at an event in Dallas, a big event in Dallas together.
[00:49:52] So, I mean, things are changing.
[00:49:55] And then you had this thing where Amrin, you put this as well, you posted this as well.
[00:50:01] Amrin was, you know, stalked by a local news so-called journalist from Nashville for a local TV affiliate.
[00:50:10] And it just looked so stale and old and tired.
[00:50:15] These people that are coming in and doing the old song and dance about racism.
[00:50:20] I mean, the real vibrancy right now is on our side.
[00:50:25] I mean, that is where the wind and the sail is.
[00:50:28] And even when, you know, again, David was on last week.
[00:50:31] When you're talking about, do you see this as fool's gold or just another example of something that is happening?
[00:50:38] Got to make a permanent change.
[00:50:40] Yeah, go.
[00:50:40] Yeah, I mean, you can look at the trajectory of it with what used to be called the mass media, the mainstream media has shrunk and shrunk.
[00:50:51] The New York media has shrunk and shrunk and shrunk in terms of its reach and dominance to the point where, like, you know, now I would say it's actually a minority.
[00:51:02] And then look what happened with Elon taking over Twitter and turning it into X.
[00:51:07] And Elon himself is on there, like, giggling to himself, posting Tepe memes yesterday.
[00:51:16] Oh, Elon Musk has gone so far to our side.
[00:51:19] I mean, you know, sometimes there's some...
[00:51:22] I know you're not back.
[00:51:24] I know you're not back.
[00:51:27] And Jared's not back.
[00:51:28] I mean, I registered a new account.
[00:51:29] I'm never going to get that old account back.
[00:51:31] But, you know, it's better for him...
[00:51:33] Maybe I should do that.
[00:51:34] Maybe I should do that.
[00:51:35] It's better for the owner of the platform, you know, himself to be, like, putting this out there than it is for me to have my old account back.
[00:51:43] Well, I mean, and he does some things that make you, you know, like, what is this when he goes to Auschwitz and stuff.
[00:51:48] But the things he says are so good.
[00:51:52] And this is the richest man in the world, one of the most influential men in the world.
[00:51:54] People like Zuckerberg are trying to get on the peace train with him.
[00:51:58] There's no doubt that Elon Musk is an ally.
[00:52:02] If we told ourselves this five, six years ago, we would have been super excited.
[00:52:06] Yes.
[00:52:07] We would be excited.
[00:52:08] Are you kidding?
[00:52:10] Because things happen, you know, so gradually, you know, so slowly, we just lose sight of the distance we've traveled.
[00:52:19] Oh, hey, Brad, one question.
[00:52:21] We've got a minute left.
[00:52:22] I want to plug OccidentalDissent.com, but our friend Rick Tyler has just sent in a message for you.
[00:52:28] And I want to work this in very quickly.
[00:52:30] Can't plug your work enough.
[00:52:32] Love you.
[00:52:33] Talk to you again soon.
[00:52:34] But Rick Tyler asks, what do you think about the J6 pardons?
[00:52:37] That's a good question.
[00:52:39] Oh, see, he is going to pardon a lot of those people.
[00:52:43] And see, that's another thing.
[00:52:45] Like, if he hadn't won, that wouldn't have been happening.
[00:52:49] We actually talked to the guy.
[00:52:51] Richard Barnett was his name.
[00:52:52] He's a volunteer firefighter.
[00:52:54] I mean, we got screwed over Charlottesville, but a lot of that wasn't.
[00:52:59] Actually, we didn't.
[00:52:59] It wasn't really so much federal charges over Charlottesville.
[00:53:03] Well, when we see James Fields being pardoned, then we'll know that we're going to be in a new age.
[00:53:08] That's the one we can't get the perfect.
[00:53:10] Yeah, I agree.
[00:53:11] Albemarle County.
[00:53:12] But, like, I mean, over J6, it was thousands and thousands of people that got.
[00:53:16] You've got to think, also, it wasn't just them.
[00:53:18] I mean, a lot of, like, Trump's top people, like Navarro, Bannon just got out of prison himself, right?
[00:53:26] So, you know, you've got to think a lot of these people have been radicalized by that.
[00:53:30] Yes.
[00:53:37] I've said...
[00:53:37] And wide screen for Trump to have lost and all of the stuff he went through to now come back as punished Trump.
[00:53:45] I mean, you know, you say that had to be almost divine intervention.
[00:53:49] You see, I'd like to see Bannon get a position with NPR or something.
[00:53:52] If Trump had won re-election in 20, it wouldn't be...
[00:53:55] We wouldn't be talking about any of this.
[00:53:57] It just would have been nothing.
[00:53:58] But now, again, God's will be done.
[00:54:03] And, Brad, God bless you.
[00:54:04] And thank you for all you do.
[00:54:05] You mentioned Charlottesville.
[00:54:07] Jason's going to be on next in the third hour.
[00:54:10] Still so much to get to.
[00:54:12] But go to occidentaldescent.com every day.
[00:54:14] He's talking about everything we want to be talking about.
[00:54:17] So it's always good to talk to him about that.
[00:54:19] But it's Brad Griffin.
[00:54:20] Support his work.
[00:54:22] Known him forever.
[00:54:23] And love him dearly.
[00:54:25] He's a great friend and brother and stalwart for the calls.
[00:54:27] Thanks for having me on.
[00:54:28] Conrad.
[00:54:28] Yeah.
[00:54:29] Thank you, Brad.
[00:54:29] We'll be back with Jason Kessler next as our 20th anniversary year begins to wind to a close.
[00:54:36] Brad was one of our speakers.
[00:54:37] Brad and Jason were both at our 20th anniversary event back in Greenville earlier this year.
[00:54:41] Now that I think of it, we'll be right back.