[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool.
[00:00:08] The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
[00:00:22] And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:00:30] Welcome back, everybody, to hour number two, our second hour since Election Day 2024.
[00:00:37] You just heard from Mark Tommy, who is the executive officer of the brand new, newly constituted organization,
[00:00:48] the Southern Nationalist League, southernatleague.com.
[00:00:56] Check it out. You will be impressed.
[00:00:58] In a way, it's certainly very similar to the League of the South, but it is a brand new organization,
[00:01:04] similar and overlapping in some ways, but not directly related and a new legal entity.
[00:01:12] And we'll talk with Michael Hill, Dr. Michael Hill, who is the chief of the League, about that as this hour rolls on.
[00:01:23] But first, as I shared with you before, of course, we are broadcasting remotely tonight from this organizational meeting.
[00:01:32] And so we're going to weave in and out of talking about this new organization and the election as well
[00:01:39] and how one informs the other and how one affects the other.
[00:01:43] And it has been a good attempt at that so far.
[00:01:47] First hour, I thought, very good.
[00:01:50] Michael Hill, first of all, let me say hello.
[00:01:52] And it's great to have you back.
[00:01:54] Always great to have you on, but even better to have you on when we are together.
[00:01:57] Absolutely, James. I appreciate it.
[00:01:59] It's always good to sit here and look at each other when we're doing the interviews.
[00:02:04] It's better than being on the phone.
[00:02:06] Nothing like in-person fellowships.
[00:02:08] That's right. Absolutely.
[00:02:08] Whether it's big conferences or gatherings or rallies or, God knows, marches, as you know,
[00:02:14] but demonstrations or if it's something like this, which is a little more private
[00:02:18] and just sort of a leadership meeting, it's always great and always good things come from that.
[00:02:25] That ideas and solutions present themselves at in-person gatherings in a way that they just can't,
[00:02:31] even with our best efforts over the air or on the phone or anything like that.
[00:02:36] Yeah, there's just something magic about that in-person give and take that we have.
[00:02:40] Well, you saw it today.
[00:02:41] We saw it today, absolutely. It was great.
[00:02:43] And people were feeding off of each other and bouncing ideas off of each other,
[00:02:47] and things came up that I didn't foresee and certainly that I didn't have in mind,
[00:02:50] even though I put some thought into this in advance of arriving last night.
[00:02:55] But let's first go back to the election, Michael.
[00:02:59] We talked about this with Mark in the first hour, and I shared my thoughts and takes,
[00:03:05] and I think I was able to relay a lot of those to you today, so I won't go back through all of them,
[00:03:10] but I will go back to this. Donald Trump, as now, once again, the president-elect,
[00:03:19] that is remarkable that the greatest comeback was no longer Richard Nixon.
[00:03:25] This is something we've not seen before.
[00:03:29] Was it Grover Cleveland, maybe?
[00:03:31] I mean, but not in a way like Trump, with everything that they have done to him
[00:03:36] and the way that they presented him.
[00:03:38] You could have chalked up that the first time he won was the result of a fluke,
[00:03:42] thanks to James Comey.
[00:03:44] But then after all of these years of demonization and then trying to put him in prison
[00:03:49] and trying to hype up January 6th as something so much more than what it actually was,
[00:03:54] for him to come back and win, what does that say about the American people?
[00:03:58] What do they want compared to what the establishment media wanted or thinks that they should want?
[00:04:04] Well, you know, I think Trump has done a good job of portraying himself as a populist candidate,
[00:04:10] even though he's a New York billionaire.
[00:04:13] He has appealed to a lot of the populist sentiment across the South and across America.
[00:04:23] And, you know, let me admit this.
[00:04:25] You know, I've never been a big Trump supporter, but I would like to say that—
[00:04:31] You put out something on social media that I thought was to the point right after the election.
[00:04:35] Yeah.
[00:04:37] You know, I would much rather have had him in 2016 than Hillary Clinton.
[00:04:42] I would probably—people like you and me would probably be dead or in prison if Hillary had been elected in 2016.
[00:04:49] And perhaps the same thing in 2024 with Kamala Harris.
[00:04:53] So, you know, if forced to choose between those two and Trump, I would have certainly chosen Trump.
[00:05:01] Those were the choices.
[00:05:02] General Forrest was not on the ballot.
[00:05:04] General Forrest wasn't on the ballot.
[00:05:06] Yeah.
[00:05:06] I mean, sometimes you just have to take what you can get.
[00:05:09] And as I have been telling people, look, if Trump did nothing else during his first term, he did brand the media as fake news,
[00:05:17] and they will never recover from that in a lifetime.
[00:05:19] I said that.
[00:05:20] That was actually in my first segment tonight.
[00:05:22] You have—the media is a single organism with a thousand heads.
[00:05:28] I can't even say tentacles because they talk.
[00:05:31] They're these heads.
[00:05:32] Right.
[00:05:32] And they got eviscerated.
[00:05:34] I mean, they have done everything they could to make him look unappealing, whether it's all of these things.
[00:05:40] And again, the question comes, if you brand someone as a white supremacist, as a racist, as a Nazi, as a fascist for 10 years,
[00:05:46] and then he gets elected again, it's either one or two things.
[00:05:49] The people don't believe you or that's what a lot of people actually want.
[00:05:53] But nevertheless, the fact that outside of maybe half of Fox News and, of course, the pro-white media,
[00:06:01] which has become, I think, more powerful than people give us credit for.
[00:06:05] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:06:05] Not just this program, but our entire array of adjacent broadcasts and live streams and podcasts.
[00:06:14] Outside of that, I mean, there was never an objective word said about Trump.
[00:06:19] If it wasn't all of those adjectives that we just ran through, it was he was an idiot, he was a buffoon,
[00:06:24] he was a threat to democracy, he was an authoritarian, he was all of the—nothing.
[00:06:28] There was never anything except contempt and derision and some sort of an attack.
[00:06:36] And for him to be reelected now, the media will never be the same.
[00:06:42] No, he defanged the media for good, the legacy media.
[00:06:47] And that was the best thing he could have done in his first term, I think.
[00:06:52] Now, he didn't accomplish a lot of other things, and I've heard various reasons why.
[00:06:57] But he's made a lot of promises for the second term here.
[00:07:01] And, you know, as we were talking this afternoon, James, a lot of people said on our side said,
[00:07:07] well, it would have been better if Kamala Harris had been elected because that would accelerate things
[00:07:12] and, you know, make our people certainly less than complacent about the situation.
[00:07:18] But as I said this afternoon in our discussions, I think Trump may be the real accelerationist candidate.
[00:07:26] I do too.
[00:07:27] Because as we talked about, most revolutions, certainly since the French Revolution of the late 18th century,
[00:07:34] have been revolutions based on the rising expectations of the middle class and working class.
[00:07:40] And Trump has made so many promises to these two classes, and they're predominantly white, of course,
[00:07:48] that he won't possibly be able to fulfill the promises.
[00:07:52] And when that happens, you have a revolution of what's called a failure of rising expectations.
[00:08:01] The middle class and working class in America are expecting great things out of Trump.
[00:08:07] When he can't deliver, there's going to be a great deal of disappointment there.
[00:08:12] And that is when organizations like ours can step in and say,
[00:08:17] we have an alternative to all the things that even a strong man like Trump can't get accomplished.
[00:08:24] Michael, this, I shared some of this earlier in the first hour, but I'd love to get your take on this.
[00:08:31] This is Donald Trump speaking, all right?
[00:08:33] And saying things, as a matter of fact, as it could possibly be done.
[00:08:40] I don't think you or I could have said anything more frank than illegal aliens are vermin.
[00:08:46] And he was talking about third world aliens.
[00:08:49] These people are vermin.
[00:08:51] They have bad genes.
[00:08:52] They pollute our blood.
[00:08:54] He said that.
[00:08:55] And the more ideas like that are made acceptable, the better we are.
[00:08:59] And this is the president of the United States saying this.
[00:09:02] So I think too often our people, maybe all people, but I know a lot of people.
[00:09:09] I've never been a part of anything but our side.
[00:09:11] I don't know how the other side operates.
[00:09:12] But we have a tendency, some of us, to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
[00:09:17] Let's be reasonable and objective here.
[00:09:20] Donald Trump was asked post-election, when you don't have to worry about fulfilling promises anymore,
[00:09:24] if he still planned to do the deportations, and he said he had to, no matter the cost.
[00:09:29] Okay, we'll see.
[00:09:30] We'll see.
[00:09:31] But even if he doesn't, he has made this a winning issue.
[00:09:34] He has made mass deportation something that the American people have an appetite for.
[00:09:39] This is a world apart, Michael.
[00:09:42] From where we were during the Bush, McCain, and Romney years,
[00:09:45] we have made great advancements in the public space.
[00:09:48] Whether he intended it or not, Donald Trump has been a vessel for these ideas.
[00:09:52] He used these ideas to become president because he knew these ideas were popular
[00:09:56] and nobody was servicing the people who wanted them.
[00:09:59] He did it, whether it was lip service or whether he'll actually do some of it.
[00:10:02] If he actually does some of it, that's gravy.
[00:10:04] But he is making our ideas palatable in a way that our movement could have never done.
[00:10:10] Yeah, that may be the most important thing that he's done over the past eight years,
[00:10:14] is to make palatable, as you said, some of these ideas that folks like us
[00:10:18] who have heretofore been on the margins of things have made those ideas much more mainstream.
[00:10:27] Now, I imagine you could go out on the street and ask, you know,
[00:10:31] ten people in this town that we're in tonight,
[00:10:34] do you favor deportations of illegal aliens?
[00:10:37] And all ten of them would say, hell yes.
[00:10:39] That's right.
[00:10:40] Absolutely.
[00:10:40] During the Republican Party years of the early 2000s and the mid-2000s,
[00:10:45] prior to the Trump era?
[00:10:47] No.
[00:10:48] You wouldn't have gotten that.
[00:10:49] John McCain, are you kidding me?
[00:10:50] We'll be back with Dr. Michael Hill, chief of the Southern Nationalist League,
[00:10:56] next.
[00:10:57] One more segment on the election.
[00:10:58] We're going to talk a little bit more about where we go from here.
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[00:13:11] All right.
[00:13:12] I can't wait to talk with Michael Hill a little bit later this hour about the need,
[00:13:17] whether Trump had won or Kamala had won or what happens over the next four years,
[00:13:21] the need for an organization that is out for the white Southern people.
[00:13:27] Why that's important and just as important now as it ever was.
[00:13:32] And we'll talk about how whites voted in the South and in other parts of the country.
[00:13:37] These are different people.
[00:13:40] We are of the same race.
[00:13:42] But there's a difference between white Southerners and whites in the Pacific Northwest
[00:13:46] and in New England, and we'll get to that.
[00:13:48] We'll get to that in just a moment with the great Michael Hill.
[00:13:53] And, you know, Michael, we were talking about all these years we've been in collaboration with one another,
[00:13:59] working partnership with one another, and just all the great times we've had on the radio,
[00:14:03] talking about some of your books, talking about, I mean, yeah, we're all Europeans too.
[00:14:10] The ancestral memory that has been stirred and how our genes inform so much of our behavioral tendencies
[00:14:16] and how, you know, in some ways you just can't escape that.
[00:14:20] You don't want to escape that.
[00:14:21] But so much of who we are is just baked in our genetic code before we're ever even born.
[00:14:29] Once you start to develop in your mother's womb, people can suppress it.
[00:14:33] People can run from it.
[00:14:34] They can denounce themselves.
[00:14:36] They can buy into the dark side.
[00:14:38] But for a lot of people who just naturally develop, they become who we are.
[00:14:43] And we'll talk about that.
[00:14:46] But I know you would agree.
[00:14:47] Absolutely.
[00:14:48] Now, let's get back to Trump.
[00:14:51] The advancements made during the last eight years continue to be made with the way he is injecting a lot of our ideas.
[00:15:00] He's not a southern nationalist.
[00:15:01] He's not a white nationalist.
[00:15:03] He is a colorblind civic nationalist.
[00:15:06] But he says a lot of things that white people like.
[00:15:09] There's no doubt about that.
[00:15:10] And that's one of the reasons that he drives the other side so crazy.
[00:15:12] So, look, yes, he will continue to serve the Sanhedrin for the next four years, as he has always done.
[00:15:19] And we will see what kind of appointments that he makes.
[00:15:22] But, as I said before, if you're searching for things to be upset about in light of his victory, he'll keep you busy.
[00:15:31] But make no mistake, I do believe, and I'm happy to be wrong, or maybe I'm not happy to be wrong if I am wrong,
[00:15:37] but I do think we will have more space to breathe and develop over the course of the next four years.
[00:15:43] And I don't think he'll sick the Justice Department on us in the ways that the left would have.
[00:15:49] What if he pardons some of the January Sixers?
[00:15:51] It's possible.
[00:15:53] Nothing was possible with Kamala Harris and Doug Emhoff and Tim Walls.
[00:15:58] And if it really would have been better for him to lose, we will get to that eventuality.
[00:16:05] We'll get to the post-Trump experience in four years, so no problem.
[00:16:09] We'll still get to experience that.
[00:16:12] We'll experience both scenarios for good measure.
[00:16:15] But you think, as a people, we are better off right now than we would have been if the other side had won on Tuesday?
[00:16:21] Well, I think what you said earlier, James, about not making the perfect the enemy of the good is something that we need to, you know,
[00:16:30] be out there preaching to our people because we're not going to find a perfect candidate.
[00:16:35] We don't have a southern-slash-white nationalist candidate to vote for, so we have to do the best we can.
[00:16:42] And as I've argued with people before, as long as we are part of this American Union,
[00:16:47] we have to be concerned about the politics of this regime.
[00:16:52] And will we be better off under Trump for the next four years as southern nationalists, as white nationalists?
[00:16:59] I think we probably will if we don't go to sleep and think that he is the solution.
[00:17:05] He is what you said, and that is a temporary respite from the assault by the left, the assault by the communists.
[00:17:14] And we should take that as a gift, I guess you might say.
[00:17:20] And I think we should use it to prepare ourselves for what's coming.
[00:17:24] We should never lose sight of the fact that we would be better off as a people under our own government and not the government of D.C.
[00:17:32] And that's not going to change.
[00:17:34] Did you vote for Donald Trump?
[00:17:35] I did, yes.
[00:17:35] All right, so here you have it.
[00:17:36] You have, I think, the country's preeminent southern nationalists who voted for Trump, Michael Hill.
[00:17:43] And you have Kevin MacDonald, who is perhaps the authority on Jewish psychology, who understands the Jewish question as well as anybody could.
[00:17:52] And he voted and endorsed for Trump, as I did publicly as well.
[00:17:55] So, you know, listen, folks, not everything is a loss.
[00:17:58] This is another thing that I think our side struggles with sometimes.
[00:18:02] As we're so used to losing that we have to find a way to lose even if we have some marginal victories.
[00:18:12] The people will say, well, the Jews installed Trump.
[00:18:16] They wanted Trump to win.
[00:18:17] He couldn't have won otherwise.
[00:18:18] And to be sure, there are two factions of Jews.
[00:18:23] I mean, there are Jewish billionaires, Jewish people who have amazing power and influence.
[00:18:29] And they are not monolithic either.
[00:18:31] A lot of Jews, most Jews, wanted Kamala Harris to win.
[00:18:34] But there are some very powerful Jews that wanted Trump to win.
[00:18:36] But if you buy into this thing that a certain group of people control everything.
[00:18:43] I'm not saying that they don't have a disproportionate amount of power and influence and they don't control the institutions.
[00:18:49] God knows that they do.
[00:18:51] Academia, the media, so on and so forth.
[00:18:53] But if you believe that these people, that everything operates off their script and we have no agency whatsoever.
[00:19:01] And that whatever they want is how the way things are going to play out.
[00:19:04] And no matter what happens, we really lost because they're behind it.
[00:19:07] I don't believe into that.
[00:19:08] I do believe that our people have agency.
[00:19:10] And I do believe that these people make mistakes.
[00:19:12] And I do believe, I do believe that this thing is going to end.
[00:19:15] This era of this, we've had the last hundred years, 50, hundred years.
[00:19:21] Jewish power and influence on the left, you're already seeing that crumble.
[00:19:26] Leftist activists are radically anti-Israel now.
[00:19:29] Now, not the same reasons we are.
[00:19:32] They see them as whites.
[00:19:33] They see them as colonizers of the poor, downtrodden brown Gazans.
[00:19:38] But they are against them.
[00:19:40] And even young Christians coming up.
[00:19:41] This whole age of Christian dispensationalism and Schofieldism, that was a blip on the radar of our faith.
[00:19:48] And it's beginning to die out as well.
[00:19:49] So even on the right and the left, they're not really seeing Jews in Israel as they once did.
[00:19:58] So I think, yes, these people can lose.
[00:20:02] I don't think that everything follows their script.
[00:20:04] I think we do have agency.
[00:20:06] And I think just as you couldn't have foreseen 10 years ago, the president of the United States calling people vermin and bad genes and mass deportations,
[00:20:15] I think we'll also see a lot more pro-white rhetoric.
[00:20:18] A lot of conservative incorporated types of people are aping our ideas on racial issues.
[00:20:26] And I think you're going to see that last bastion begin to erode.
[00:20:31] And that is the Jewish power and influence question.
[00:20:34] But, yeah, I do believe we have agencies.
[00:20:37] And I don't think that everything happens to a script that we can't alter.
[00:20:41] No, James, I agree with you.
[00:20:43] I think otherwise, you know, you may as well pack up your bags and go home.
[00:20:47] What are we doing any of this for?
[00:20:48] Yeah, exactly.
[00:20:49] If we don't think that we have a chance to win.
[00:20:51] Jews have always pushed their luck and pushed it too far.
[00:20:54] And there's been a backlash.
[00:20:56] And they'll do it again because that's just their nature.
[00:21:00] You know, Trump is beholden to Jewish money.
[00:21:03] I mean, Miriam Adelson, the widow of Sheldon Adelson, a very rich Jew, I think gave Trump something like $100 million.
[00:21:11] And you know it came with great strings attached.
[00:21:14] Oh, sure.
[00:21:14] And you can't tell me that Trump didn't have to kiss some Jewish ass when he was, you know, making his billions in New York City.
[00:21:25] Obviously, you don't get to be what he got to be up there without rubbing shoulders and doing some favors for Jews.
[00:21:33] But if we think that they are all powerful and can't be defeated, then, as you said, we just may as well pack our bags and go home.
[00:21:41] What have we ever tried to do anything for?
[00:21:43] I know.
[00:21:43] What are any of our organizations or media outlets doing if we have no agency and we have no ability to win and everything operates off the script?
[00:21:53] And Donald Trump, well, yeah, but, I mean, you know, it's because they wanted him.
[00:21:57] Sure.
[00:21:58] I get on social media all the time and try to be reasonable about analyzing what Trump means, you know, to the Southern Nationalist movement, to the white race.
[00:22:07] And everybody comes, or not everybody, but a lot of guys will come back on there and say, oh, he's just a tool of the Jews.
[00:22:12] He's not going to.
[00:22:13] I said, well, you don't know that that's true.
[00:22:16] You don't know when a man can change.
[00:22:18] You don't know what influences are affecting him now.
[00:22:22] Give the man a chance to follow through with his promises.
[00:22:26] And even if he doesn't, the rhetoric and the Overton window, if you will, has moved so much in our direction over the past eight years that our ideas are beginning to mainstream.
[00:22:39] And when our ideas start to mainstream, it doesn't matter who pushes them into the mainstream.
[00:22:45] We should take it as a great victory.
[00:22:48] I think, I mean, you had people like our friend Brad Griffin, who did not vote for Trump in 2020 after voting for him in 16.
[00:22:56] But he wrote a very compelling series at Occidental Dissent over the summer, The Case for Trump.
[00:23:02] And it was about, I don't remember even how many, 12, 15, 20-part series of articles that laid out a case.
[00:23:10] So, yes, a lot of our people came back to Trump this year that set it out in the last time but who voted for him the first time.
[00:23:18] And I know we're going to get emails from others who, once Trump does something maddening, I told you so.
[00:23:26] Well, we expect that.
[00:23:27] I mean, we expect there to be mixed results with Trump.
[00:23:29] He's going to make a lot of mistakes and do a lot of things that we don't like.
[00:23:34] How would you respond to that?
[00:23:38] Well, yeah, of course he is.
[00:23:39] He's going to do a lot of things, and people are going to do just what you said, point the finger and say, we told you so.
[00:23:44] But look, if Trump does one or two things that he promised, and there's a long litany of promises that he's made or his campaign has made,
[00:23:54] Elon Musk and various others who are in his entourage, if only a few of those promises are kept,
[00:24:02] like building a border wall and deporting 15, 20 million illegals,
[00:24:09] don't tell me that won't do the white race and the southern nationalist movement a hell of a lot of good.
[00:24:15] If he did, and if he does nothing else, at least we have that.
[00:24:18] That would have been more than Hillary Clinton did and certainly more than Kamala Harris would have done.
[00:24:23] That's the way I see it.
[00:24:24] Now, people on the left will say he can do no good.
[00:24:26] There are establishment conservatives who will say he can do no wrong,
[00:24:30] whereas I think you and I, Michael, and so many others associated with this program,
[00:24:33] we see him objectively.
[00:24:34] Sure.
[00:24:35] We can give him credit when he does good and we can take him to task when he does poorly,
[00:24:39] but when we come back, we will talk about whites and what whites saw in Trump.
[00:24:45] We'll do that next.
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[00:25:58] A key moment in the matter of a famous book.
[00:26:04] The decades-long ban of Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses in his native India is now in doubt.
[00:26:10] That's not because of a change of heart more than two years after the author's near-fatal stabbing,
[00:26:14] but because of what amounts to some missing paperwork.
[00:26:17] Earlier this week, a court in Delhi closed proceedings on a petition filed five years ago
[00:26:22] that challenged the then-government's decision to ban the import of the 1988 novel.
[00:26:26] The Satanic Verses had enraged Muslims worldwide because of its alleged blasphemy.
[00:26:30] In a recent ruling, judges contended that authorities had failed to produce the notification of the ban.
[00:26:35] The petitioner's lawyer says his client was motivated by being an avid reader.
[00:26:39] Ron Taylor reporting.
[00:26:41] Buckingham Palace says Queen Camilla will miss Britain's annual Remembrance Weekend events
[00:26:45] to honor fallen service personnel while she recovers from a chest infection.
[00:26:50] 77-year-old was also slated to honor the word dead at Remembrance Sunday ceremonies.
[00:26:55] Breaking news and analysis, townhall.com.
[00:27:00] An inauguration ceremony in Botswana for the newly elected president there.
[00:27:07] The national anthem of Botswana on a day when the country's democracy was celebrated.
[00:27:12] Trotting white horses accompanied the new president, Duma Boko, on a lap of the stadium.
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[00:27:19] When some in the crowd booed his predecessor, Mokwitsi Masisi,
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[00:27:29] In neighboring Zimbabwe, opposing the government often comes with a violent response.
[00:27:34] And there's instability in Mozambique following allegations of a rigged election.
[00:27:37] That is BBC correspondent Will Ross reporting.
[00:27:40] Now the new president described the change of government as historic
[00:27:44] and stressed the need to avoid squabbles and personal rifts.
[00:27:48] He also expressed his love for the country and appreciation they had shown him in electing him to the highest office.
[00:27:54] More on these stories at townhall.com.
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[00:30:11] Welcome back, everybody, to TPC's post-election show.
[00:30:16] We have so much coming up.
[00:30:19] You couldn't have planned the programming for the rest of the year prior to Tuesday night,
[00:30:28] because obviously, depending on the outcome, you're going to have totally different guests
[00:30:34] and totally different kinds of shows.
[00:30:36] But now that that much has been realized, we have got the show booked out for now through the end of the year.
[00:30:46] Each show each week is already packed and full, and nothing more can be added.
[00:30:52] And it's going to be a lot of fun.
[00:30:54] I think there is no doubt about it, Michael.
[00:30:56] So, whites at large, and especially the pro-white community, fills a sense of relief and satisfaction to varying degrees,
[00:31:07] but certainly more so than we would have had it gone the other way on Tuesday.
[00:31:12] And we are, I think, in a more celebratory type of mood.
[00:31:16] I think there would have been a foreboding, a sense of foreboding if the other side had won,
[00:31:23] because we know that they're coming after us, especially with Trump out of the way.
[00:31:29] So, the next couple of months on this program, as we wrap up this year, our 20th anniversary year,
[00:31:37] and I have been all over the map, particularly all over Dixie this year.
[00:31:42] This is the last of the busiest year of my life in terms of travel.
[00:31:48] This is the last meeting that we have on the schedule that's outside of the studio,
[00:31:52] and it's just been great to be here with Dr. Hill and everybody else who came to this organizing meeting.
[00:31:58] But we are going to have some fun getting into the Christmas season
[00:32:01] and celebrating what Christmas is all about with some good music and good guests
[00:32:07] and a little sense of relief, I think.
[00:32:09] So, let's talk, Michael, about some of these exit polls.
[00:32:14] We touched on it briefly with Mark Tomme, but I want to dive into it a little more with you,
[00:32:18] and that will give us our next pivot back into why we're actually here tonight in this location for this particular meeting.
[00:32:26] Yes, Trump is already doing things that annoys me to some extent.
[00:32:30] His victory speech, he gave credit to Latinos and blacks and even Muslims
[00:32:36] instead of the people who actually voted for him.
[00:32:39] He did have a remarkable turnaround with Latino men.
[00:32:42] The fact that he got the majority of Latino men is remarkable.
[00:32:45] There's no doubt about that.
[00:32:46] But, you know, and 20% of black men, as I said earlier,
[00:32:50] they can certainly relate to him now as a convicted felon and all of these other things.
[00:32:54] But the white people is what won the election for Donald Trump.
[00:32:59] That's right.
[00:32:59] Period.
[00:33:00] And you have these goofy conservatives in the Republican Party
[00:33:06] who are just sort of having like some sort of sexual release that they got up to 20% of black men.
[00:33:12] And it's kind of weird.
[00:33:14] But it's the left.
[00:33:16] Jason Kessler had a great comment.
[00:33:17] I really like Jason.
[00:33:20] Jason Kessler, he said this, and I'll let you respond to this.
[00:33:24] I prefer watching the left-wing media right now for two reasons.
[00:33:28] To inhale their misery like vapors of an illicit drug.
[00:33:33] And number two, leftists are the only ones attributing white identity politics
[00:33:38] to the 2024 success of Donald Trump.
[00:33:40] They loathe it, but they see it and acknowledge it.
[00:33:43] Republicans are only peddling half-truths about the economy.
[00:33:46] Well, I think that's an absolutely terrific analysis by Jason.
[00:33:50] You know, one thing we need to look at when we look at Trump and his campaign is who his enemies are.
[00:33:57] His enemies are basically our enemies.
[00:34:00] I mean, not all of them, but certainly a lot of our chief enemies line up as Trump's enemies as well.
[00:34:06] And, you know, my father used to tell me, he said,
[00:34:09] Son, you're known by the enemies that you keep.
[00:34:12] And he meant that in a good way.
[00:34:14] In other words, if you don't have any enemies, then you ain't doing something right.
[00:34:17] You're very well known.
[00:34:18] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:34:20] I know.
[00:34:21] But Trump has made some of the right enemies.
[00:34:25] And I do think those enemies are spot on about Trump getting support from white nationalists.
[00:34:35] And some of the things that Trump says just are, you know, right up our alley as white and southern nationalists.
[00:34:42] And there's no doubt about that.
[00:34:43] And you're right.
[00:34:44] Conservatives run away from that like Dracula runs from sunlight.
[00:34:49] They don't give credit to anybody but the people who are responsible for it.
[00:34:54] But, yes, absolutely.
[00:34:58] I'm very happy that Trump won this election.
[00:35:01] If for no other reason than we may get a little bit of good out of it,
[00:35:05] and we may get a four-year respite to do some things that we need to do.
[00:35:10] Well, and two, they lost.
[00:35:13] What we gained remains to be seen.
[00:35:16] Yeah.
[00:35:16] But they lost.
[00:35:17] They didn't gain anything.
[00:35:18] That's right.
[00:35:18] They lost.
[00:35:19] They didn't gain anything.
[00:35:20] And I wanted to see these people.
[00:35:21] I wanted to see these people in despair.
[00:35:23] They deserve it.
[00:35:25] I revel in it.
[00:35:26] Like Jason said, and I said that in the first hour, not perhaps quite as eloquently as he did.
[00:35:30] But I spent hours on Wednesday specifically searching out MSNBC election response, CNN election response.
[00:35:40] I wanted to see Rachel.
[00:35:41] I wanted to see these people in that state of misery.
[00:35:46] And because this is a battle of good versus evil, and we can fuel ourselves off of that to an extent.
[00:35:51] Absolutely.
[00:35:52] But the, yeah, I mean, Latino men voting for Trump is something worthy of discussion.
[00:36:04] As I said in the first hour, I think all of this talk about him being authoritarian, maybe they could relate to because that's sort of like what they're used to.
[00:36:13] Yeah, they like strong men.
[00:36:14] They do.
[00:36:15] They do.
[00:36:15] And listen, I give them credit.
[00:36:18] I am glad that they voted for Trump.
[00:36:20] That's not something to laugh at.
[00:36:21] That's not something to mock.
[00:36:22] Thank you, fellas, for voting for Trump.
[00:36:25] But, you know, black men, look, 20% of black men, I will say that is more than I ever thought he could get.
[00:36:30] I never thought it would be higher than maybe high single digits.
[00:36:33] So for whatever reason, some of these black guys voted for him.
[00:36:36] I thank them too.
[00:36:37] That's not, but, I mean, you still lost 80 to 20.
[00:36:39] So let's not get carried away here, GOP.
[00:36:42] That's right.
[00:36:42] You lost black men 80 to 20, and you lost black women 92 to 7.
[00:36:46] So I wouldn't say credit is due to that particular community.
[00:36:50] But when you get 20% of the vote of Detroit, that swung Michigan.
[00:36:54] Yeah.
[00:36:55] Well, you know, I do believe that Trump could do his cause a lot of good if he would just come out and say, you know,
[00:37:02] I've thanked everybody but the white man and woman or white men and women out there who voted for me overwhelmingly.
[00:37:10] And I would just like to stop and say thank you.
[00:37:13] That's all he would need to do.
[00:37:15] And getting 59% of, now this is the whole country.
[00:37:18] We're going to talk in the next segment about what Dixie did, what white men and women in the South did in the next segment.
[00:37:24] But to get 59% of white men and 52% of white women, you know, obviously with it still being the vast majority of the country is still white.
[00:37:34] Now, I say it's vast relatively speaking, not certainly to the extent that it was 30, 40 years ago, 50 years ago, 60 years ago.
[00:37:42] But it's still, you know, around 60%.
[00:37:44] So, you know, when you get that percentage of whites, that means a lot more than getting a higher percentage of the blacks because blacks are still only, you know, 12, 13% of the people.
[00:37:54] So it was whites that voted for Trump that put him into office, period.
[00:37:59] The other stuff did help swing a couple of swing states, though.
[00:38:01] There's no doubt about it.
[00:38:03] And Trump did re-engage, I think, a lot of working class whites without a college degree that didn't vote for him in 20.
[00:38:11] They just set it out.
[00:38:12] They did get them back in.
[00:38:14] Whites won the election for him.
[00:38:15] Now, he didn't thank whites specifically, but how do you respond to Trump?
[00:38:21] Again, I've brought this up several times, but it is worthy of your response, Michael.
[00:38:26] Trump referring to, in this exact term, his beautiful white skin at a rally last week,
[00:38:32] and then at Madison Square Garden weekend before last playing Dixie.
[00:38:37] Well, you know, those are things you have to give him credit for.
[00:38:40] Did you ever think you would see a president of the United States playing Dixie before a black congressman takes the stage?
[00:38:46] I never thought of it.
[00:38:48] I'm not saying Trump had his finger on the button and pushed play, but these things are so stage-managed and so orchestrated.
[00:38:54] That did not happen by mistake.
[00:38:56] To play Dixie?
[00:38:57] No, absolutely not.
[00:38:57] That was a dog siren.
[00:38:59] Yeah, it really was.
[00:39:01] And, hey, I think that's a great thing.
[00:39:03] I think it's sending a message.
[00:39:05] So you could say, hey, Trump, you know, why didn't you mention whites?
[00:39:07] I'm pissed off at you.
[00:39:08] But how about Trump?
[00:39:09] You played Dixie?
[00:39:10] Yeah.
[00:39:10] Well, I salute you.
[00:39:11] I'd much rather even play Dixie than mention white people because as a southerner.
[00:39:15] We know who won the election for him.
[00:39:17] Absolutely.
[00:39:17] We don't have to.
[00:39:18] But he didn't have to play Dixie.
[00:39:19] That's right.
[00:39:20] That's an acknowledgment, I think, of who he knows.
[00:39:24] And being in Madison Square Garden, which is the center of the media empire, Manhattan, the shrine.
[00:39:32] A very famous place where so many sporting events and things of historical nature.
[00:39:36] He knew that that, above all rallies.
[00:39:38] Now, he had played Dixie at other rallies, too, when he does these dances.
[00:39:42] You know, he plays YMCA and all these other songs.
[00:39:45] It wasn't the first time he had played Dixie on the campaign trail this year, but to play it in that one,
[00:39:49] which was getting universal press coverage because it was Madison Square Garden.
[00:39:52] Now you could say, well, he didn't play it.
[00:39:54] His campaign did.
[00:39:55] You know, somebody played it, and it was his proxy.
[00:39:57] Nothing is going to get done at one of his rallies like that that he doesn't give it.
[00:40:01] But they think that would hurt him.
[00:40:04] Implicit consent to.
[00:40:05] Well, he had played it before, too.
[00:40:07] He had played it a couple of weeks ago.
[00:40:08] There was one rally, I don't know if it was in Wisconsin or wherever, where he didn't even give a talk.
[00:40:14] He just came out and, like, danced for an hour.
[00:40:16] Right, right.
[00:40:16] But Dixie was one of them.
[00:40:18] It was Elvis' portion of American Trilogy, but it was just the Dixie part.
[00:40:22] Right, right.
[00:40:22] So it wasn't even the whole song.
[00:40:24] Yeah.
[00:40:24] I mean, I think it's great that he did that.
[00:40:27] And Trump is one of these guys who I don't think he does anything without thinking about it.
[00:40:32] I don't think he speaks or does anything without contemplating the meaning of what is going to be taken from it.
[00:40:41] The New York Times certainly put on Confederate Anthem plate at Trump's Madison Square Garden.
[00:40:46] He got the response.
[00:40:47] And what did he not do?
[00:40:48] He didn't apologize.
[00:40:49] He didn't say, oh, I didn't know what that song was.
[00:40:51] He didn't do any of that.
[00:40:52] He just let it ride.
[00:40:53] That's great.
[00:40:53] So, again, credit where it's due.
[00:40:55] We could say we could take him to tech.
[00:40:58] White men and women in the South versus white men and women who voted for Trump in other places.
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[00:42:01] You know where the solution can be found, Mr. President?
[00:42:04] In churches, in wedding chapels, in maternity wards across the country and around the world.
[00:42:11] More babies will mean forward-looking adults, the sort we need to tackle long-term, large-scale problems.
[00:42:18] American babies in particular are likely going to be wealthier, better educated, and more conservation-minded than children raised in still industrializing countries.
[00:42:29] As economist Tyler Cowen recently wrote,
[00:42:32] Quote,
[00:42:33] Quote,
[00:42:33] By having more children, you're making your nation more populous, thus boosting its capacity to solve climate change.
[00:42:39] The planet does not need for us to think globally and act locally so much as it needs us to think family and act personally.
[00:42:49] The solution to so many of our problems, at all times and in all places, is to fall in love, get married, and have some kids.
[00:43:11] All right, and we are back, and Michael Hill has stepped out for just a moment, and he'll be back with us imminently.
[00:43:20] But I will remind you now, as we continue to get through the first of our post-election shows,
[00:43:27] that, of course, this is the political cesspool in our 20th year, and what a wonderful year it has been,
[00:43:33] barnstorming the South, especially the South.
[00:43:36] We've been all over the place.
[00:43:38] It started off my first trip this year, and I have traveled more miles this year in service to the cause
[00:43:47] and to this particular radio program than any other year, and it started back the first weekend in February.
[00:43:54] I was down in Orlando with Steve King, Congressman King, and we had a great time together,
[00:44:03] speaking there and appearing on a panel together, and then he was on with me.
[00:44:07] Just like Michael Hill tonight, right here side by side in Orlando in February,
[00:44:12] and now here we are just a few days now before Thanksgiving, and this is my last stop of the year with a lot in between.
[00:44:19] And, Michael, this isn't the first time we've seen each other this year.
[00:44:22] You, of course, gave the closing speech at the Political Cesspool's 20th Anniversary Conference in South Carolina.
[00:44:28] And, as I said, we saved the fire and brimstone for Sunday morning.
[00:44:32] You were the one who closed it all out.
[00:44:34] Well, that was a great occasion, James, and congratulations again on 20 years.
[00:44:38] That's quite an accomplishment.
[00:44:40] It is.
[00:44:40] I mean, you would call that a good start because this was the 30th year of the League of the South,
[00:44:46] and now we have a brand-new organization.
[00:44:48] The time on the League has set, and as we said, people worship the rising sun, not the setting sun.
[00:44:55] Absolutely.
[00:44:56] There is a new organization that has dawned this weekend, and we will talk about that next.
[00:45:03] But first, Michael, these polls, the exit polls, all whites throughout all 50 states,
[00:45:12] 59% of white men voted for Trump, 52% of white women voted for Trump.
[00:45:19] And that was something that there was some concern and dissension about,
[00:45:23] but I said white women will vote for Trump.
[00:45:27] They will be a net gain for Trump.
[00:45:29] Some of our friends said that they would not be,
[00:45:32] but white women have always voted for the Republican candidate, and they did so again.
[00:45:38] Now, you could say for both white men and white women it should be better than 59 and 52.
[00:45:43] But white women voted for Trump, as did white men.
[00:45:48] That's what won him the election.
[00:45:49] White women were the only females that voted for Trump.
[00:45:54] Black women, 92% for Kamala.
[00:45:57] Latino women, 61% for Kamala.
[00:46:00] And you go from there.
[00:46:02] But one thing that was interesting is American Indians voted 64% for Trump.
[00:46:12] Did you know that?
[00:46:13] I don't think that's a big idea.
[00:46:15] That's not necessarily a big demographic, and it was only 1% of his total vote,
[00:46:22] but 64% of Indians, American Indians, voted for Trump.
[00:46:26] And let's see here, 56% of Asians voted for Kamala.
[00:46:31] So anyway, we've gone through all that.
[00:46:33] But Brad Griffin, though, this is the thing I wanted to talk about.
[00:46:36] Brad Griffin, as he has once to, Brad is an excellent researcher,
[00:46:40] and he can sniff out data like nobody else on our side.
[00:46:46] Big difference, even if you start to break down the white vote,
[00:46:51] which was, again, between male and female, 59 and 52% respectively.
[00:46:57] Here's your home state, Michael.
[00:47:00] Alabama, this is just white women.
[00:47:02] So white men would be a little bit higher than this.
[00:47:06] Well, I'll do some of the other states first.
[00:47:09] This is just white women.
[00:47:10] In Wisconsin, 48% voted for Trump.
[00:47:13] Not bad.
[00:47:14] 48% for Trump, white women in Wisconsin.
[00:47:17] In Iowa, 52% for Trump, the national average, white women.
[00:47:24] In Georgia, 71% of white women voted for Trump.
[00:47:30] In Alabama, 82% of white women voted for Trump.
[00:47:33] What is the difference?
[00:47:34] What is the difference between whites, men and women,
[00:47:38] but for this segment, particularly women in the South
[00:47:41] versus women in other places?
[00:47:43] Well, I think Southerners, men or women,
[00:47:46] are both more naturally conservative than people, whites,
[00:47:51] from the other parts of the country.
[00:47:53] I forget which one of the agrarians who wrote,
[00:47:57] I'll take my stand back in 1930,
[00:47:59] said that liberalism in all of its forms is an alien ideology to the South.
[00:48:05] And I think the voting numbers show this.
[00:48:09] I mean, not to say that Republicans or good traditionalists are always somebody worth voting for,
[00:48:15] but certainly the Democrats for the last 50 or 60 years have been leaning further and further to the left.
[00:48:23] And Southerners are not going to vote.
[00:48:26] White Southerners are not going to vote for leftist candidates, period.
[00:48:30] Whereas whites from other parts of the country, as you see, are about 50-50 on this thing.
[00:48:35] With Southerners, it's not going to happen.
[00:48:37] They're not voting for liberals.
[00:48:39] Before we actually got this data, Courtney, Courtney from Alabama,
[00:48:43] she couldn't find the data for whites in Alabama.
[00:48:50] But I told her, I said, if whites in Alabama voted 60-plus percent,
[00:48:55] excuse me, excuse me,
[00:48:57] if Trump won Alabama by 60-plus percent, 60-40 or whatever it was,
[00:49:02] I said whites in Alabama had to vote 80-plus percent for Trump.
[00:49:05] And that's exactly where it landed.
[00:49:06] I was spot on on that.
[00:49:08] So the point is, if, you know, Trump carries whites 59 and 52 percent respectively,
[00:49:17] male and female, 55 percent overall, 55 percent of whites voted for Trump.
[00:49:22] But there's a big difference between the Deep South and states like New England and the Pacific Northwest.
[00:49:30] So it stands to reason that there's a difference even amongst our own people on issues.
[00:49:39] And there are things that separate us.
[00:49:41] There are things that are different about us.
[00:49:42] So with that being understood, as we have always understood it,
[00:49:46] there should be an organization that seeks to represent explicitly and strictly the Southern people.
[00:49:52] Yes, absolutely.
[00:49:53] And that's what we've got here.
[00:49:54] Tell us more about it.
[00:49:55] Well, yeah, we'll be talking a little bit more about this before we close out tonight.
[00:50:01] But I thought the time had come to form a new organization because of some things we'd been going through with the league for the last seven years or so.
[00:50:10] And we did that.
[00:50:12] And as you said, sometimes the setting sun is easier to get behind and follow than the rising sun.
[00:50:21] Correct.
[00:50:21] Than the setting sun.
[00:50:23] So we have a new organization.
[00:50:24] And it's based on some of the same principles as the old.
[00:50:28] Some of the same people will be involved.
[00:50:30] And there will be some new people as well.
[00:50:33] But I'm very encouraged about this.
[00:50:36] We've been on the defensive, really, for the last seven years.
[00:50:40] And I'm really looking forward to going on the offensive and doing some things with our new website and with our new organizations in the various states and regions.
[00:50:53] And we're not just limited to Southerners.
[00:50:57] We have a lot of people in the Southern nationalist movement, which has been going on for our part for the last 30 years.
[00:51:06] We've had a lot of non-Southerners who say, well, I just believe in what you believe and would like to support you.
[00:51:12] And a lot of the people outside the South are Southerners by birth and, you know, have moved out.
[00:51:19] But we have a lot of support for the Southern nationalist movement and have had it from all over the 50 states and from other countries as well.
[00:51:29] And I don't expect anything to change with our new organization here as long as we do our job and stick to the truth and tell the truth in an unabashed and unashamed way.
[00:51:41] So if there is a difference between whites in the South and whites in other places, and I understand there's a lot of commonality.
[00:51:47] There's a lot that we have in common with people outside of the South who are white.
[00:51:51] But they are not entirely us, and there should be an organization that exists just for us, just for the Southern people.
[00:52:00] That doesn't mean that we will not work in cooperation, that these people are not our brothers and our sisters.
[00:52:04] Certainly, people all throughout Europe are our brothers and sisters and cousins.
[00:52:08] But it's okay to have an organization that just seeks to advance the interest of white Southerners.
[00:52:14] Yeah, this is our homeland, and we're a unique people.
[00:52:18] And I always like to think of Southerners as my immediate family and other whites outside the South, in the North, West, in Europe, et cetera, as being our extended family.
[00:52:29] And we will close ranks with them and fight with them, and they are part of us, and we're not excluding them.
[00:52:34] But this is just something where the focus is predominantly and primarily on white Southerners, white Christians, white Southern Christians.
[00:52:42] And we deserve that.
[00:52:45] Every subset of every people group deserves an organization, not that's competing against others, but is primarily focused on this group of people of this particular family.
[00:52:58] And, again, folks, we want you to check out this brand-new website that just came online, for the Southern Nationalist League.
[00:53:07] The spelling is southernatleague.com.
[00:53:13] So just one N, southernatleague.com.
[00:53:17] I saw that today, Michael, and I was gobsmacked at how good that looks.
[00:53:21] I said on the spot, I said, this is, I think, probably the best-looking website for anybody on our side.
[00:53:26] Well, we've got a real pro working this thing for us, and we're paying out some good money to him to do this.
[00:53:35] This is where our financial efforts are going to be.
[00:53:36] But this message deserves that kind of presentation.
[00:53:39] Yes, absolutely it does.
[00:53:40] And this is, in 2024, this is the way you reach people.
[00:53:44] Everybody is online, and everybody can log into a website and read what you've got.
[00:53:50] So we wanted to get the best one that we possibly could, and I think we have.
[00:53:55] Michael Hill is going to close the show for us, the last segment of the third hour.
[00:54:01] During this third hour, our focus will transition into this new organization and not so much election results.
[00:54:07] I think we've covered that well.
[00:54:09] Rich Hamblin, our good friend Rich Hamblin, is tuned in tonight, listening live, says hello.
[00:54:13] And he says that Trump announced on X that Mike Pompeo and Nikki Haley will not be part of his upcoming administration.
[00:54:19] So there's that.
[00:54:20] Oh, absolutely.
[00:54:21] So there is that.
[00:54:23] We may eat.
[00:54:24] Trump may serve us some disappointments, but that's not going to be one of them if that's the way it plans out.
[00:54:33] And, you know, he got her endorsement and didn't bring her in.
[00:54:36] Oh, no.
[00:54:36] She was out campaigning for him there at the end and didn't bring her in.
[00:54:39] I'd love to see Tulsi in there, though.
[00:54:41] All right, we'll be back with some state chairman of this new organization, the Southern Nationalist League, next.
[00:54:47] And then Michael Hill at the end of the hour.