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[00:00:30] Alright everybody, a fantastic night on TPC.
[00:00:37] Temperature is heating up outside, it's heating up politically in this country and it's heating
[00:00:41] up in the studio tonight.
[00:00:43] During the first hour you just heard from two former United States congressmen, Steve
[00:00:47] King and Steve Stockman.
[00:00:50] And that was about as animated and as lit up as I've heard them and I've heard a
[00:00:53] lot from them.
[00:00:54] And they're great guys but that was something as they were tackling this situation involving
[00:01:00] the guilty verdict for Donald Trump in Manhattan week before last.
[00:01:06] They were covering it I guess mostly from a political angle, we're going to be looking
[00:01:09] at it a little more legally this hour with a panel of lawyers first joining us and
[00:01:14] he'll be with us for the remainder of the evening as it turns out.
[00:01:16] Sam Dixon, Sam Dixon needs no introduction.
[00:01:18] If you don't know who Sam Dixon is, if you've been listening to this show,
[00:01:20] you haven't been listening to this show.
[00:01:22] That's right.
[00:01:23] So we'll just say Sam Dixon is with us, the man who needs no introduction
[00:01:26] and Sam how are you tonight?
[00:01:28] I'm fine, how are you?
[00:01:31] I'm good, I tell you what, I'm fired up after those two guys.
[00:01:35] But yes, I mean, go ahead.
[00:01:38] We'll have to ask him.
[00:01:41] Well I'm about average really.
[00:01:42] I don't want to, I don't want to.
[00:01:45] He's not going to lie to you.
[00:01:47] No I'm not going to lie.
[00:01:49] But I've had one thing after another but everything has been minor and I'm being
[00:01:54] protected by the Lord so I'm feeling good about it.
[00:01:57] Well that's what Steve Stockman said recently that Trump commuted his
[00:02:03] sentence and he didn't need to be pardoned because he got pardoned
[00:02:06] 2,000 years ago.
[00:02:07] So anyway, Sam we've been watching this with interest.
[00:02:11] To say the least that this is unprecedented, that's an understatement.
[00:02:16] Let's get before we bring Augustus and Victus on in the next segment
[00:02:20] to join this roundtable discussion as we had it in the first hour.
[00:02:24] You're watching this, I know you have a very interesting take on it and it's
[00:02:27] one that I agree with.
[00:02:29] And let's begin with this being the best possible thing for us, what
[00:02:33] happened to Trump?
[00:02:34] How is that?
[00:02:35] Well the most, far more important than exonerating Trump is for the
[00:02:41] core demographic of the nation.
[00:02:44] The Edwards and Alexanders and Bixons.
[00:02:48] The founding stock.
[00:02:49] Our founding stock and I related Kip and Kim from Eastern and Central and
[00:02:55] Southern Europe to understand the system and to understand how much the
[00:03:03] so-called government of this country hates us and really hates America.
[00:03:09] It's been captured by Marxists.
[00:03:13] This conviction, the way the trial was handled, the absurdity of the
[00:03:20] charges and the willingness of this overwhelmingly minority written jury in
[00:03:27] Manhattan to set all logic and evidence and law aside to just do what
[00:03:33] they want to do in a ruthless way.
[00:03:35] The way Stalin did with the Polish officer corps at Katyn.
[00:03:41] All these things are lessons that have to be learned.
[00:03:44] They're much more valuable than Trump getting acquitted.
[00:03:47] So yeah, this will be down to our benefit.
[00:03:50] It repudiates the establishment.
[00:03:52] The establishment loses more of its legitimacy.
[00:03:55] Tens of millions of people see through the fraud of the law system.
[00:03:59] So this is good for us.
[00:04:02] Let me say this Sam, you know after watching what the judicial system has
[00:04:08] been doing lately in Atlanta and in New York, doing to people like V-Dare and
[00:04:14] Donald Trump and whatnot, it just confirms me in my conclusion that I
[00:04:20] really don't want to be part of a nation with these people anymore.
[00:04:23] No, you're right.
[00:04:27] You cannot.
[00:04:28] As I've said many times, you know, when I was a kid in high school, I
[00:04:33] was to say the least, I wasn't on the football team, but I was a loyal
[00:04:37] supporter of the football team.
[00:04:39] Many of my friends were on the football team and we would, on Saturday night,
[00:04:43] we'd have our high school football games or the other high schools in our league.
[00:04:47] Our big rivals were the Decatur Bulldogs and the Briarcliff Barons.
[00:04:52] And we could play football against them because at heart, basically,
[00:04:59] all the kids on the teams agreed that they would play by the rules.
[00:05:04] They wouldn't get off sides, they wouldn't stomp on a tackle player and try to smash his face in.
[00:05:12] But if you had teams like the Biden team or like the inhabitants of Manhattan
[00:05:19] in the Trump trial or people like Mayor Louise Kelly on National Public Radio or
[00:05:24] Anderson Cooper, these people are not going to play by the rules.
[00:05:29] And if somehow we could quote take the country back end quote,
[00:05:34] they would invoke all the protections of the Bill of Rights like they did for the
[00:05:37] communists and the new left and the civil rights demonstrations without any sincerity,
[00:05:43] without any intent ever to accord those rights to us.
[00:05:46] And once they got back in power and they had an ending at that,
[00:05:50] they'd start all of this stuff all over again.
[00:05:53] Not only can we not live in the same country with all of these anti-white
[00:05:58] organized ethnic groups, we cannot live in the same country with people like Mayor Louise Kelly
[00:06:05] and Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and people like that. We can't live with those people.
[00:06:10] Sam, if you will give me the privilege, I would like to read just an excerpt here
[00:06:15] and that I enjoy an embarrassment of Rich's behind the scenes being able to converse with
[00:06:20] all of my peers via email. And we have a nice little email list,
[00:06:23] a close-knit email group that Sam and I are part of.
[00:06:26] This is what you wrote in response to this and I don't think it's anything you wouldn't
[00:06:29] share on the program, but alienation is what we need and this result talking about Trump's
[00:06:34] verdict will help tens of millions of Americans recognize the reality of America and its courts.
[00:06:39] As I've said before, this again is Sam Dixon writing,
[00:06:43] the only people who do not betray us are our enemies.
[00:06:46] They are doing everything we would want them to do and they must be crazy.
[00:06:49] They seem to think that this is still the America of 1958.
[00:06:52] They think that people will react to the verdict in this trial, which you put the word trial in
[00:06:57] quotations by saying, oh, Trump has been convicted of a crime. I can't possibly vote for someone
[00:07:01] like that, but they don't get it that this verdict will hugely radicalize half the country
[00:07:06] and cause them to hold the system's judiciary and its prosecutors in contempt. We couldn't
[00:07:11] have scripted them to do anything better than this. I know we've been talking about
[00:07:15] this already, Sam, but please elaborate a little bit further. And by the way-
[00:07:18] Give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves.
[00:07:19] This was by far the weakest of the cases against Trump. This was the one that even
[00:07:23] his enemies thought that he would probably skate on.
[00:07:26] Well, the silly woman that sued him for defaming her for denying that he-
[00:07:33] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:07:34] That has to be- that takes the prize. I mean, yes, both of them-
[00:07:40] It nosed out Trump's legislature.
[00:07:43] That was a civil thing. This is criminal felony here.
[00:07:47] They use civil law like they did at Charlottesville, as well as criminal law in their law fair.
[00:07:54] These people that we're dealing with- and nothing to understand. I've talked to a lot
[00:07:58] of young white people that had this idea- well, Jared Taylor seems to have this idea that
[00:08:04] old things were different 20 or 30 years ago. When I was in school, and Keith and I,
[00:08:09] and we were in school back in the 60s, that somehow it was some kind of a halcyon day
[00:08:15] utopia of fairness and all that. No, this stuff has very deep-
[00:08:22] It all had its roots in the civil rights movement. You're absolutely right. We've got
[00:08:25] to tear down this sanctified Berlin wall that they have built around the civil rights movement.
[00:08:32] Everything that they're doing has its rigging elections, rigging trials,
[00:08:37] demonstrating. For example, the people that fought the civil rights movement didn't have
[00:08:45] the National Lawyers Guild or the NAACP Legal Defense Fund at the ready to bail them out
[00:08:51] or do anything. We're seeing- it's basically that whole rubric of the civil rights movement is a
[00:08:59] trap that a lot of our people have fallen into. That's what the people in Charlottesville
[00:09:03] fell into. That's what the people on January the 6th fell into.
[00:09:06] Oh, I'll go you one better. Yes, the taproot goes back to Dr. King and the civil rights
[00:09:12] movement, but it also goes- the taproot goes deeper. It plows right through the
[00:09:17] civil rights movement. It goes down to Franklin Roosevelt and to Truman. They did this kind of
[00:09:24] thing. The Great Sedition Trial, that's something we ought to discuss sometime on
[00:09:30] political sestle. Your girlfriend, Rachel Madow, has written a book now called Prequel,
[00:09:40] praising Roosevelt for the Great Sedition Trial. This is kind of still that the American
[00:09:48] government was involved in in 1944. Franklin Roosevelt had a pet reporter for one of the
[00:09:54] newspapers in D.C. to write letters to about 30 of his critics around the country. One of
[00:09:59] them was actually a mulatto. He wrote The New Republic, an honest liberal and a decent black
[00:10:05] guy, and Lawrence Dennis. He wrote the best account of the trial. This reporter wrote to
[00:10:11] all these people and asked them to send him copies of their pamphlets and their writings.
[00:10:17] In this way, Roosevelt and his attorney general and the so-called Justice Department
[00:10:23] were able to get venue in Washington D.C. and they indicted them all under the Smith Act
[00:10:29] under a theory that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the commander-in-chief of the army
[00:10:34] and they were criticizing Franklin Roosevelt. This caused a conspiracy
[00:10:40] to demoralize American soldiers as a flour of mutiny. Hold on right there, Sam. Hold on right
[00:10:46] there. We got to take a break. We're going to add Augustus Invictus to this discussion.
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[00:13:23] All right everybody welcome back. We had a couple of former congressmen on in the first
[00:13:27] hour talking about the situation involving Donald Trump, these trials, these unprecedented trials.
[00:13:34] As I say not just in our lifetime but in all of American history this is pure on third world
[00:13:38] banana republic stuff where the succeeding president tries to imprison his predecessor
[00:13:43] who also happens to be the current front runner and we had congressman Steve King,
[00:13:47] congressman Steve Stockman on in the first hour. A remarkable hour, a remarkable hour.
[00:13:53] Tonight or rather in the second hour right now we have a panel of attorneys. Keith Alexander,
[00:13:58] my co-host Sam Dixon and now Augustus Invictus. Augustus is a really sharp guy and he's been on
[00:14:04] the show three times previously and actually Augustus you were one of the very first.
[00:14:10] I appreciated it so much after the decision was handed down in my ill-fated libel lawsuit.
[00:14:16] You were one of the first to reach out and offer condolences and I still remember that but
[00:14:20] it's always good to talk to you. You were almost recently back in January of this year so we want
[00:14:25] to say hello to you and welcome you to the program in progress with Sam Dixon, your fellow
[00:14:30] attorney. Take it away Augustus. Yes sir, yeah thank you very much for having me man. It's
[00:14:35] always a pleasure to be on and yeah I still talk about your case all the time. I actually
[00:14:40] brought it up earlier today. I'm like you would not believe this one case because somebody
[00:14:45] asked me you know I've got this radio program I'm going on tonight and they're like well who is it?
[00:14:50] I'm like well let me tell you a story and so I still that still sticks in my crawl what
[00:14:56] happened to you. Well you know I tell you my friend we didn't get the win but we sure got
[00:15:01] a great story to tell. That really was a win to show people just how corrupt the judicial
[00:15:06] system has become. That was trivial compared to what we're talking about now and compared
[00:15:10] to what happened with you know Congressman Stockman you know that's a whole other story
[00:15:13] so I got off easy but nevertheless it was something. But anyway they all paved the way
[00:15:20] too you know I mean all these little things that happened everybody's like oh well
[00:15:24] you know like the appellate court said in that case like well you know if you associate with
[00:15:28] the Klan well you deserve what's coming to you. Well they but the association with
[00:15:34] the Klan was Sam Dixon. Somehow they went through the mental gymnastics of that.
[00:15:40] Oh yeah exactly but people are like well it's the Klan well it's the Nazis who cares I mean
[00:15:44] they don't have rights anyway and now you see it applying to you know what they would call real
[00:15:49] people. Hold on let's let Sam I didn't mean to get off on this tangent I apologize but Sam
[00:15:56] since we're here they went outside the evidence a lot of sand is to say that that
[00:16:02] he associates with Sam Dixon who's a member of the Klan. To use the phrase that people used
[00:16:09] to use in the house committee investigation of the kindness I am not now but never have been
[00:16:15] a member of the Klan. You know I did what lawyers are supposed to do. Your lawyers are
[00:16:20] supposed to defend unpopular people and we defend rapists we defend people accused of
[00:16:26] child molestation we're choosing that would be a defense you know that's our job and I did
[00:16:32] defend members of the Klan. I won most of the cases including cases in front of racially mixed
[00:16:37] juries which shows just how trumped up and phony these cases were that were being concocted
[00:16:44] by a wing of the GBI created at the behest of the anti-declamation league for the express
[00:16:50] purpose of railroading people into jail the so-called anti-terrorism unit but anyway yeah
[00:16:58] but I must say before we leave this topic I don't want to blow my own horn but who was it
[00:17:05] James that told you and your young brilliant lawyer Kyle Bristow that it would be impossible
[00:17:12] for James Edwards to sue a major newspaper in Michigan under any fact and win his case.
[00:17:21] Hey Sam let me tell you something not only do I remember who it was I remember where we were
[00:17:29] we were in Dallas Texas at a conference and you told me that and I was like you know but it's
[00:17:34] just so open and shut it's so clear. I told him nothing is open and shut in the in the
[00:17:39] court system that we have now you can't take precedent be damned. Well before you're
[00:17:44] statistic can't keep you an optimist I'll tell a quick story we go for hours I go
[00:17:50] as far as I was glad about but I knew a lady who had been an early female lawyer in Georgia
[00:17:56] before the the the troublemakers went to go in court when it went to law school but she told
[00:18:02] me when she opened when she left the DA's office and went out on her own somebody
[00:18:07] and somebody came to her who had been libeled by the Atlanta Journal Constitution
[00:18:11] and she was excited so she met an old lawyer named Hugh Dorsey for lunch who's kind of a mentor
[00:18:18] and she told I've got this great case the Atlanta Journal has libeled this guy we're
[00:18:25] going to sue and he looked at her and said Sarah before you do that come back with me to
[00:18:30] my office and look in the case citator which is a book where they list cases by name
[00:18:36] and they went back and she said he showed me about 100 cases that have been then decided
[00:18:42] in the appeals courts involving the Atlanta Journal Constitution and if the people suing
[00:18:49] the newspaper won at the trial level it was affirmed by the appellate courts if they lost
[00:18:56] to the trial level it was affirmed by the appellate court no one had ever succeeded
[00:19:02] in suing the Atlanta papers because of course you're going to protect the Atlanta papers
[00:19:06] so she said that she was a liberal but she admitted to me that that she had learned a lot
[00:19:11] of things from people like that that the world was not the way she thought it was
[00:19:16] in civics class well I got to tell you I pardon the indulgence here Augustus and
[00:19:22] everyone listening but before Keith even knew I was considering this I consulted with Sam
[00:19:28] because we were in Dallas and Kyle Bristow just happened to be at that meeting and I knew that
[00:19:32] he was an attorney in Michigan and so I brought up the case he said no we'll win this and
[00:19:36] no one could have argued it better than Kyle his work was just I'm a layman but I know Sam
[00:19:42] he's brilliant yeah I believe that yeah there's one thing to let me just say this about
[00:19:50] embark on this type of litigation you better be ready to go all the way and a perfect
[00:19:55] cautionary tale for it is Brown versus Board of Education if they had not appealed the left had
[00:20:02] not appealed the Brown case well the Brown case would have been a good citation to support
[00:20:12] racial segregation well in any event when you know you've got it in the bag taking all
[00:20:17] the way to the Supreme Court in order to get a favor of the big difference is they knew
[00:20:20] they had the Supreme Court in their hand and we don't and that's so there's a big
[00:20:24] difference there but anyway I just quickly I remember Sam telling me that I wasn't going to
[00:20:28] win and I said it's just this is the law this is the precedent and Kyle Bristow said yeah this
[00:20:32] is the restatement of torts and you know and I obviously Sam is infinitely smarter than I so
[00:20:38] when I said you know Sam I'm gonna I'm gonna prove you wrong on this I wanted to prove him
[00:20:42] wrong to restore his hope but instead my hope was eviscerated and now I am exactly where
[00:20:48] Well you can't do it unless you've got like a million dollar war chest basically to go all
[00:20:54] the way to the Supreme Court. We did that yeah I mean Kyle did that pro bono so I mean he just
[00:20:57] did that just to wow because anyway but anyway all right so Augustus my apologies to everyone
[00:21:04] but this that you wrote about the the Trump verdict let's pick up there and join this
[00:21:09] conversation in progress your take on what happened in Manhattan 10 days ago.
[00:21:16] My take well I think I've gotten a very unoriginal take I think like you said it
[00:21:22] just proves that we're in a banana republic is obviously politically motivated.
[00:21:27] You know the guy's facing what hundreds of felony charges has never had a criminal
[00:21:31] charge in his life and now he's running for president got all these charges and then
[00:21:36] gets convicted on 34 felony counts of some you know legal mumbo jumbo that nobody can really
[00:21:42] explain I mean it's obviously a setup I really don't know if I have anything original to say
[00:21:48] about that I think everybody's on the same page about this everybody right of Karl Marx that is.
[00:21:56] The biggest thing that strikes me about things is how expensive it has come and become to
[00:22:02] protect your rights in the courts all right let me ask you this yeah that's that yes I
[00:22:07] mean how many yeah you know there was a Peter Teal made a comment about this when he funded
[00:22:12] Hulk Hogan's lawsuit and he was like you know if you're a single digit millionaire you can't
[00:22:17] even afford a legal defense for your family and people got so mad at him or even you know
[00:22:22] talking about single digit millionaires like they're poor people but when you think about
[00:22:26] it like it really does take a decade millionaire to successfully defend himself and
[00:22:31] his family in a lawsuit like this and nobody's richer than Donald Trump and he couldn't
[00:22:38] succeed defend himself successfully of course the juries that we've got to go through the
[00:22:42] appellate process but you know James couldn't afford to go into the appellate process.
[00:22:47] We went to the appellate process the only place we didn't go to was the Michigan Supreme
[00:22:51] Court but when you'd been so thoroughly routed on the other levels and then when
[00:22:55] you are facing you know potential sanctions it's just you're not going to win they're
[00:22:59] not even going to take the case but this situation where you have in New York 94 percent
[00:23:05] of people in Manhattan voted against Trump Sam. Right right I want to say that this is a very
[00:23:11] important thing that I guess just I think will relate to and that is when I was in law school
[00:23:16] I was I was a far more cynical lawsuit than most of my friends but even I didn't grasp
[00:23:24] how the system works but because of the expense of this stuff and the and the emotional strain of it
[00:23:31] the process itself is the punishment that even in an unlikely event you win
[00:23:38] you usually cannot recover attorneys fees and you're exhausted and and I remember very clearly
[00:23:44] and that's just a little member of this case because it's in all the constitutional law books
[00:23:49] where the Jehovah's Witnesses the city of Griffin Georgia passed an ordinance basically to stop
[00:23:55] Jehovah's Witnesses from going door to door and handing out their pamphlets attacking
[00:24:00] mainstream churches and all the the Baptists and Catholics and Presbyterians all happy about
[00:24:05] this but there's companions they won't stop these people and so you're the decision you
[00:24:11] read in law school is this ringing decision from Supreme Court I think something like
[00:24:15] Kingdom Hall versus city of Griffin and it just lays the law down know that Jehovah's
[00:24:22] Witnesses have a right under the second amendment to freedom of religion and all that
[00:24:27] what you forget is that the Jehovah's Witnesses lost at every court all the way up to Supreme
[00:24:32] Court it would take eight hundred thousand dollars there that hold on right there hold
[00:24:38] on right there Sam we're not going to take any more breaks this hour so Sam Dixon and
[00:24:41] Augustus and Victor's can make sense of this for us to the extent that sense can be made of it
[00:24:47] we'll be right back proclaiming liberty across the land you're listening to liberty news radio
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[00:30:15] going to go all the way to the wall with attorneys sam dixon augustus invictus and
[00:30:21] of course my co-host keith alexander augustus i want to toss it back to you with this an
[00:30:27] excerpt from a very well written piece by gregory hood at american renaissance and
[00:30:33] this is what he writes our rulers do on some level believe their own propaganda and have
[00:30:38] convinced themselves that donald trump is a threat to democracy therefore they are shredding
[00:30:42] basic assumptions about the rule of law and the legitimacy of government in order to destroy him
[00:30:48] they do not want president trump defeated they want to confiscate his wealth disgrace his family
[00:30:54] and send him to jail the case itself was essentially about a bookkeeping
[00:30:59] keeping error we read a little bit from paul craig roberts about this in the first hour
[00:31:02] with congressman king and stockman but uh this is this just gets to show how trivial
[00:31:08] this all was and how again pardon the pun trumped up it all was gregory hood writing the case
[00:31:14] itself was essentially about a bookkeeping error and even that is debatable attorney alvin brag
[00:31:18] who was indulgent towards career criminals brought 34 counts against donald trump that
[00:31:22] could theoretically lead to 136 years in prison the argument is that donald trump myth classified
[00:31:29] a hush money payment uh quote unquote to stormy daniels as not a campaign contribution
[00:31:34] and that was fraud incredibly prosecutors and the judge decided the jury did not need to know
[00:31:40] what underlying crime was furthered by this supposed misclassification furthermore the
[00:31:44] state has never ever brought charges on violation of a federal law the judge in this case
[00:31:51] juan murchan violated state ethics laws by making modest donations to president
[00:31:57] joe biden and democrats and a group called stop republicans but he was left off without
[00:32:01] a warning unlike mr trump and i think augustus what this proves is what we always say in blue
[00:32:07] state america the only thing that matters is whose side you're on but they're getting away
[00:32:12] with it and if they can stop the president and the front runner what is going to happen
[00:32:17] to the rest of us after this right if they can get donald trump they can get anybody
[00:32:21] right so i actually read that article i didn't realize that mr hood wrote that i read his
[00:32:26] book waking up in the american dream uh so that that explains why that was such a good article
[00:32:31] um but you had said something right before the break about you know manhattan uh 94 percent of them
[00:32:37] voted against trump in the election like the same thing is true of dc i think it's 93 percent
[00:32:43] and folton county sam's sam's area right yeah maybe not that hot in the day six cases you
[00:32:51] know you've got all these people where they wish to god they could switch venue to west
[00:32:56] virginia or anything anything other than dc where everybody voted against trump but the the whole
[00:33:02] thing is is rigged against you they walked into a trap when by coming by by being drawn into dc
[00:33:08] they walked into a trap right well i mean you could say the same thing about charlotteville
[00:33:13] right and we all right we all went to this rally in charlotteville and now seven years
[00:33:18] later we're all facing trial the first one with the trial this week uh facing trial for
[00:33:23] going on a torch march and now you've been uh charged with basically terrorizing the entire
[00:33:28] town everybody's intimidated seven years later like anywhere you go where it's a majority blue
[00:33:34] situation yeah you're looking at that and the crazy thing about it is that all of these people
[00:33:39] are attacking trump right now how dare he uh you know question the legitimacy of our courts
[00:33:45] how dare he attack the legal profession and the judge is it and this is what the left has
[00:33:49] been doing for what 50 60 years 70 years right so the whole uh judicial system is racist it's all
[00:33:59] rigged against people of color the entire thing is corrupt police are out of control and actually
[00:34:03] i agree with a lot of that like they are out of control it is a police state but at the same
[00:34:08] time you can't go for like you said 70 years saying we have a broken judicial process and
[00:34:14] then you know you get your guy trump and all of a sudden well the judicial system is sacrosanct
[00:34:20] it's just like the people who will you know defund the police we hate cops they're all
[00:34:24] racist but as soon as they defend the capital on january 6 all of a sudden we need to glorify
[00:34:30] cops now we have hero worship of these cops who are at j6 so it's a completely
[00:34:36] raising hypocrisy these people are engaged in you can't afford that you don't you keith i
[00:34:41] mean here's one from archbishops uh uh charles shipputt evil preaches tolerance until it is
[00:34:48] dominant then it tries to silence good but that's cliche but if you want to see how things change
[00:34:52] look at the way that the demonstrators are portrayed on pbs and you know eyes on the prize
[00:34:59] and what righteous and holy of course the difference between us and the civil rights
[00:35:03] demonstrators is that we have no national lawyers the system behind them not we have
[00:35:09] no uh n-double-acp legal defense fund they were lawyered up to the max all the time
[00:35:14] well they had the federal government the courts the media they had every part of the system
[00:35:18] their adversaries were fair-minded people principled who would follow the law like
[00:35:22] drew lackey who we've interviewed on this program who was the gentleman pictured in the iconic
[00:35:27] photo booking rosa parks sam your response to what you just heard from augustus and victus
[00:35:32] uh well i think he's he's absolutely right uh and and you you see things like the fact
[00:35:39] is that he doesn't lose sight of most obvious things in in sifting these things biden the
[00:35:46] laptop you know this business and guiding trump for trying to influence an election
[00:35:54] every politician everybody tries to put a good faith on himself and politicians always
[00:36:02] want want to emphasize the good things in their resume and downplay the others to turn this into
[00:36:09] a crime is simply an uncertainty uh i don't know that there's enough evidence to indict stormy
[00:36:15] daniels but it's not a crime to pay somebody to shut up it's a crime to blackmail somebody
[00:36:23] into making you pay you and paying you by hush money if you know something about them
[00:36:27] that's a crime uh but you look at biden and the hunter biden laptop you know they got 51
[00:36:35] sdi agents and cia agents it shows you the kind of spilt that worked for the sdi and cia
[00:36:41] they got them to sign this statement that the hunter biden laptop was russian propaganda
[00:36:47] and the debate the last debate was trump biden was asked about the laptop and he knew
[00:36:53] so well that the laptop was legitimate his campaign had put together the the phony statement
[00:36:59] by the phony fbi and cia agent he looked at the camera in the eye and said it's russian
[00:37:05] intelligence he lied about it so it's it's prompted to be indicted uh for trying to keep
[00:37:11] this this alleged affair out of the media uh well you know is biden set up the condition
[00:37:17] this shows that no one is above the law no that's not true it shows that biden will use the law
[00:37:23] he and his friends to indict someone else while he is above the law well i'm waiting
[00:37:29] with bated breath to find out when these 56 or some odd uh people in the fbi and the
[00:37:36] department of justice who backed the idea that this was a uh product of russian intelligence
[00:37:43] when they get uh prosecuted then you know i'll eat my hat all right let me say this let me say
[00:37:50] this i i and i i did say this to you sam and and to some others last week via email i watched
[00:37:58] the coverage of the verdict with absolute contempt and disgust this is a guy you know i this is
[00:38:04] what i do i mean i the last almost decade now it's been the trumpian era so we've covered
[00:38:10] all the ups and downs every week and so it's not just a trivial observance but i but i had a visceral
[00:38:17] reaction to this and and it led me to to wonder what the typical what the reaction from the
[00:38:23] typical maga types must be feeling because it's what it showed me though james is that how i do
[00:38:29] not want to be part of a nation that includes the jury pool of new york city that's the that's
[00:38:35] a key takeaway but i would what i was saying was in spite of all of trump's shortcomings
[00:38:39] this verdict may be positively eager to vote for him and haven't felt that way since 2016
[00:38:44] so so yes augustus to you well i the the the sentencing is scheduled for july 11th sam you said
[00:38:51] something um god it had to be a year and a half ago christmas before last before any of
[00:38:57] this was even on the radar for the regular public you said on a on a new year's eve show
[00:39:03] it was just after christmas year before last so not last christmas but the christmas before
[00:39:07] that you said trump is going to prison i said come on sam that that's that's too much no he
[00:39:13] will go to prison do you believe that he's going to be what do you think it's going to
[00:39:16] happen augustus on july 11th i don't know i mean they've gone far enough i mean why not
[00:39:22] put him in prison but at the same time they have to know that there will be riots and i
[00:39:27] don't mean like january 6th i mean like real riots like but will there be i don't know
[00:39:31] i'm not convinced that our people are so docile so content i wish there might be it's just too
[00:39:38] much man you know and in all these third world countries which is the way we're going
[00:39:43] like there is violent opposition to these sorts of tyrannical decisions by the incumbent
[00:39:49] those people are still manly people american white people never riot uh you know you had riots
[00:39:57] after after the george floyd thing when you had had oj simpson acquitted yeah did you read about
[00:40:06] white people rioting all over america no the white people are not gonna riot but they are
[00:40:11] getting fed up and when the money runs out the the uh the uh the drug will be gone the pacifier
[00:40:20] will be out of the mouth and we may eventually get that's it well there needs to be some type
[00:40:26] of um kind of secret secession of the harbor people say i'm just not going to obey these
[00:40:32] laws anymore what it is is you know it's like t.s. elliott's famous poem the hollow men this
[00:40:38] is the way the world will end not with a bang but a whimper uh i'm hoping that he's not
[00:40:43] a prophet regarding the farisha of america but i'm not so sure you're both onto something
[00:40:49] here though you're both onto something here because i asked what the regular maga type must
[00:40:53] be feeling and i i got a little bit of an insight into that when my father came over
[00:40:58] to visit a few days ago he came over to visit the kids and my mom and dad came over
[00:41:03] my dad's a reasonable guy he was a Buchanan supporter in 92 and 96 and that's uh really
[00:41:09] kind of laid the foundation for everything that would come in my life thank god he wasn't
[00:41:13] a dan quell supporter i guess i don't know maybe i would have had some money
[00:41:20] but uh but the uh but no i mean i mean he's the he's a right winger but you know he still
[00:41:26] voted for dole and for bush you know in the general elections and all of that
[00:41:29] but he came over he came over the other day and he said you know trump has got balls of
[00:41:34] steel and yeah i said you know there's no after the the verdict came down i know there's
[00:41:39] no doubt about that i mean he's been put on more than anybody i've ever heard of anyone that would
[00:41:44] have put up with this type of uh hectoring that was folded over the name that's not the takeaway
[00:41:50] the takeaway was what he said next the takeaway was he said i would die for trump i said dad
[00:41:54] hold on dial it back here just just no no dial it back here just a minute dad and uh but
[00:42:01] i think what he's saying is what he's saying is is what he was meaning was it's not about
[00:42:07] trump it's about what this means what this means for the system what this means for everything
[00:42:12] if they get here for if they get him they'll run through us like hot you know knife through
[00:42:17] hot butter they already will through us like hot cake so there is no justice in america
[00:42:22] you know it has been this way for a long long time it's been this way for 150 170 years
[00:42:30] and then it's wonderful that people are catching on to it and like augustus is saying uh
[00:42:36] they're no longer viewing the courts as sacrosanct i observed the same thing he talked about
[00:42:41] that they're on national public radio the day after they were converting uh they had a panel
[00:42:46] of these uh law school deans and and and and journalists and they were talking about how
[00:42:50] terrible it is that that trump and the right the far right are impugning our wonderful
[00:42:57] judicial system the fairest system in the world and and you know criticizing the judge
[00:43:03] and then 90 seconds later all of them started criticizing the judge in flora because she's a
[00:43:09] trump appointed exactly it got to shoot a word hypocrisy for this there's actually another word
[00:43:16] this is beyond hypocrisy this is hypocrisy involves sort of secretly hiding your vices
[00:43:22] and pretending to be virtuous this is just something that they showed their ass to anyone
[00:43:27] lifting the radio double speak in 1984 where you know everything you say actually means the
[00:43:33] opposite well i would say this very quickly just to interject this in one more time with regards
[00:43:39] to the anecdote from from from my father is that yes i mean sam you're obviously right
[00:43:44] white people are so docile they're they're just not it's inconceivable to believe that
[00:43:48] even if they put trump in prison next month or with one of the subsequent trials that you're
[00:43:52] going to see any sort of like george floyd like reaction to that but what is real is that the
[00:44:00] base is ready to go and i do believe my dad when he said he would he would die on that hill
[00:44:06] because of what it means and if it's i think what they'll have to do is suffer a little
[00:44:11] more first and become more uncomfortable before they'll they'll take that last full measure
[00:44:16] but i think in their hearts they are ready but they're still a little bit too comfortable
[00:44:20] and so you're threading that needle a little bit but there is something there is a
[00:44:24] i've a level of discontent a something boiling beneath the surface here that is a very real
[00:44:30] energy how it becomes unleashed or if it becomes unleashed it remains to be seen but
[00:44:35] there i think we may be closer to that than um than we feel as dorothy told toto we're
[00:44:41] not in kansas anymore yeah if i was just saying you know from a white pill perspective
[00:44:47] you know seven years ago when charlottesville happened everybody was you know outraged at all
[00:44:53] these nazis and the clan and how could they be so violent and then j-6 happened and now
[00:44:59] everybody's like wait hold on a second so you know so the government isn't telling the truth
[00:45:04] all the time the media is lying the cops are out of control like hold on a second so now
[00:45:09] all this time later you know jacob dix goes on trial in charlottesville this past week
[00:45:14] and everybody across the board is like hold on a second what do you mean you're charging them
[00:45:20] for marching with a tiki torch what the hell communist nonsense is this even people on the
[00:45:26] the center right are saying this is an absurd case whereas seven years ago everybody like
[00:45:31] now screw those nazis put them in prison so i think there has been a massive shift
[00:45:36] in the overton window or at least a massive awakening to the corruption in the courts across
[00:45:42] i'm glad you brought that up because let's ask sam about that because i know sam's a take on
[00:45:46] the court it's a take that i didn't share in 2016 but it would certainly share now sam were you
[00:45:53] surprised to find and and the jury was polled in that jacob dix case eight not guilty three
[00:46:00] guilty one undecided were you surprised i think what happened is that area of virginia
[00:46:11] voted three to one for biden over trump but what you've got there is you've got was
[00:46:17] you don't have the kind of human sewage that you've got in that package and so there was
[00:46:23] a there's some degree of fairness to them but that a larger scale thing which we can
[00:46:31] deal with at another time all of us can discuss this other time is there are ways
[00:46:37] the system short of rioting and civil war if people just stop believing fbi agents
[00:46:45] and cia agents and not believing them testifying under oath they're going to court the minute
[00:46:51] you hear this the witness works the fbi you know what he is and you don't believe a word
[00:46:57] he says yeah they could there are ways like gandhi had in india civil disobedience there
[00:47:05] are ways to bring this system to its knees without violence you know when the when cromwell
[00:47:14] took over england and my sympathies are you in that by the way for anyone that's a historical
[00:47:19] obscurity issue is a as a president cherry and my sympathies was with parliament and not the
[00:47:23] king but when that when the puritans took over they made it a death sentence uh for a
[00:47:30] man and a woman to have heterosexual sex outside of marriage they enacted the
[00:47:37] leviticus code in the entire 10 years that puritans ran england they were never able to
[00:47:43] get a jury to convict anybody accused of having an affair because the jury knew this guy of this
[00:47:50] role is going to be put to death and i i i'm not in favor of extramarital sex and i'm not
[00:47:55] willing to have this person put to death because he had an affair so the jury started they signed
[00:48:01] me to crumble and there are ways to do this thing and in red state they make a lot of mischief
[00:48:09] about by just uh yes i know well i mean you've got it already i mean marjorie taylor green you
[00:48:19] know i i talked about this at my talk at amred last year marjorie taylor green in
[00:48:25] state legislatures in in in state legislators in texas uh the situation going on with
[00:48:33] the idaho and oregon i mean you you have nascent secessionist movements uh jerry taylor wrote this
[00:48:38] week uh 80 million americans are going to vote for trump and the teeth of the most vicious
[00:48:44] denigration campaign in american history and he could even win if there was ever a crevasse
[00:48:48] down the middle of america this is it and that's the question augustus does this end
[00:48:54] in america breaking apart or our subjugation because it's going to be one of the two
[00:48:59] i can't believe in our subjugation man i was as cynical as we may be as as realistic as we may
[00:49:05] be i just can't believe in that i have to believe that we are going to win um as far
[00:49:10] as breaking down the middle i don't know if i believe that either maybe we're balkanized
[00:49:14] maybe it's all going to be a war of all the game stole but as far as us being in subjection
[00:49:20] and subjugation rather i just i cannot believe that there's just no way and i think the same
[00:49:26] way and i think that's why he's the symbol of america right now because despite the entire
[00:49:30] system being against this guy he's a symbol of what it means to be american which is never
[00:49:35] surrender well that that yeah i think again that's what got my dad so animated is that
[00:49:41] is talking spirit against all of this all of this injustice say what you will about his
[00:49:47] shortcomings say what you will pro or con about trump it's not even about that it's
[00:49:50] not even about him it's about the big picture and he's he's just the one in in in the crosshairs
[00:49:57] right now but sam you've certainly got a lot of people mad at him go ahead so you know
[00:50:01] there's a lot of reasons to be mad at him i know a lot of my friends who are just
[00:50:05] outright white nationalists who just hate trump because you know all the things he said
[00:50:10] he was going to do and he never did it the wall uh turning on people after charlotte's
[00:50:15] everybody's furious about that but at the same time like if you turn on him now after
[00:50:20] everything the system has like they always say that an old american proverb he's got all the
[00:50:24] right enemies and if you are going to walk away from that now when he's the symbol of
[00:50:29] everything wrong with america then you know you're just giving up i i fall back
[00:50:35] oh i don't know i would like the trump and i'd like to put a word in to support those
[00:50:40] people i heard i heard uh warren blaylock giving a very impressive talk at james's 20th anniversary
[00:50:49] a celebration in game in greenville i did not know these things but promptly he ran against
[00:50:54] your cannon was like hillary clinton that trump is a fascist he was a nazi probably
[00:50:59] was trying to prompt the reform party denomination trump is for abortion he attacked
[00:51:04] the count you know and and he ran when he ran against biden last time he sent his money
[00:51:09] running ads and and turned the debate that he had freed more black people from jail than
[00:51:14] biden had ever dreamed of that he's going to empty the gaols so we have to let's be realistic
[00:51:21] trump is not on our side trump is not dependable i'm still gonna vote for him i'm glad he's
[00:51:28] radicalizing america but but our solution our salvation lies 10 or 15 years out in the future
[00:51:35] when people you people like you and james edwards take over the country that's where i
[00:51:40] survived salvation lives let me say this now excuse me why i just say like right go ahead
[00:51:49] we got two minutes okay all i want to say is that what that shows about what trump was
[00:51:54] arguing about he did more for black people than anyone else we've got to desanctify and
[00:51:59] the civil rights movement that was really when the left gained traction and they've been an
[00:52:05] unstoppable juggernaut ever since augustus yeah it's been it's morally indefensible right to
[00:52:12] to go against that but um what i was going to say is you you liken trump to uh to cabenon
[00:52:17] right when cabenal was being nominated for the supreme court i didn't like having all
[00:52:21] you know i didn't like him but when they the left came after him with this hashtag me too
[00:52:26] nonsense and made up all this malarkey about him it's like well now i have to support cabenal
[00:52:32] now i have to like the guy and i have to support his nomination because we can't let the left do
[00:52:36] this and give this heckler's vote and i i mean he's been all right since i maybe i misjudged
[00:52:42] him a little but at the time i was like i don't care what his positions are now
[00:52:46] he's the symbol of we've got to get this guy on the supreme court because the left cannot
[00:52:51] get away with this and i feel the same way about trump like no matter what i've done
[00:52:56] yeah for years the inadvertent assist the inadvertent assists that he didn't intend to do
[00:53:03] has taken us far further than all of our collective could have ever done sam
[00:53:08] we have to look to ourselves for liberation we cannot look to trump for liberation
[00:53:16] or cabenal we cannot lose lose sight of that as a cabenal again we often lose sight of the
[00:53:23] obvious but the whole thing about kevin that he wasn't he's a 53 year old man married man with
[00:53:30] children and he was supposed to be morally unfit to be on the supreme court because when he was
[00:53:35] 11th grader he tried to have sex with a girl in his high school i'm for peace
[00:53:42] they did the same thing they did the same thing effectively to roy moore
[00:53:45] and i i i am a presbyterian i i i have very church has reviews on sex
[00:53:53] but i know that virtually every 11th grader has sex with you know and the idea that you judge
[00:53:59] a 53 year old man based on the fact that he was drunk he tried to get sex this is just absurd
[00:54:05] it's beyond description and then the next day that's the same people who are so morally
[00:54:11] appalled by that or promoting transgenderism yeah right yeah exactly hey augustus give us your
[00:54:17] contact information people need a good attorney in florida how do they get it yes sir i'm at
[00:54:21] invictus pa at protonmail.com and i'm on twitter or x at emperor invictus pretty easy to find
[00:54:28] right emperor invictus and certainly you are thank you for being on with us tonight sam
[00:54:33] dixon's going to stick around for our third hour conversation we're going to shift gears
[00:54:37] talk about russian history with our friends at antelope hill publishing taylor young will be
[00:54:43] with us along with sam dixon thank you augustus invictus we'll be right back