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[00:00:32] Tonight's live broadcast of TPC.
[00:00:34] It's Saturday evening, February the third, you just heard a fantastic hour with former
[00:00:40] United States representatives Steve King of Iowa and Steve Stockman from Texas.
[00:00:44] We are live in Orlando, Florida tonight.
[00:00:47] Steve King and I are going to be speaking at an event tomorrow afternoon.
[00:00:50] Steve Stockman joined us from the phone from Texas as we have a three-hour special report
[00:00:56] on the crisis at the Texas border – crisis in terms of immigration, a constitutional
[00:01:02] crisis.
[00:01:03] Two, and joining us now, boy, if there was ever a guest whose issue was in this – his
[00:01:10] bailiwick, it is Peter Bremelow, the editor of vdair.com and author of the best-selling
[00:01:15] book, "Alien Nation Common Sense" about America's immigration disaster.
[00:01:19] He's going to be weighing in on Texas now following the congressman.
[00:01:22] Peter, how are you?
[00:01:23] It's fine, James, thank you for having me on.
[00:01:27] Well, thank you for being on for this particular show, this important show with, again, an
[00:01:31] all-star cast, Steve King, Steve Stockman now, Peter Bremelow.
[00:01:35] So, Peter, I don't want to say this is exciting for you, but this is your issue.
[00:01:40] And I wish that it didn't have to be so tragic and that the repercussions of this
[00:01:45] is so damaging to our nation, but for a guy whose extraordinary web scene, vdair.com has
[00:01:55] made their signature issue, you've got to be firing on all cylinders right now.
[00:01:59] What do you make of it?
[00:02:00] Well, you know, it's just taken a long time, hasn't it?
[00:02:03] Alien Nation was published in '95, but you write, I mean, one of the really interesting
[00:02:10] things that's happened and Brad over at Accentless Sentence is very good on this, is that the
[00:02:17] Cynthia R. No pro-immigration Republicans left in the base now.
[00:02:24] Of course, thinking the donors of pro-immigration, the Wolf's General Pages, is pro-negration,
[00:02:29] but the party itself is clearly an immigration patriot party, at some point, that's going
[00:02:34] to prevail.
[00:02:35] It's not going to help Nikki Haley at all, because she's obviously out of the Jeb Bush
[00:02:41] mode.
[00:02:42] Now, the question is, what can we get done about it?
[00:02:46] I mean, the situation is extremely -- you know, the amazing thing is, James, it's not
[00:02:51] impossible that this time next year we could have immigration patriot, president, and Republican
[00:02:59] control both branches of Congress, so both branches of the legislative branch, the control
[00:03:04] by a party that wants to do something about immigration.
[00:03:09] It's clear the house does, and the sanity is still lagging behind, but with the Trump
[00:03:18] wins, I think it's possible to win the landslide in the event.
[00:03:25] This is what I was talking with the Congressman about in the first hour of Peter, is that
[00:03:29] I was asking -- I was a little bit surprised, and I wanted to get their opinion on why Biden
[00:03:34] hasn't gone ahead and federalized the Texas state guard yet.
[00:03:41] And they said they don't -- he doesn't want immigration to be the issue, because it's
[00:03:45] such a terrible issue for the Democrats who would play right into Trump's hand.
[00:03:48] Do you buy that, or do you agree with that?
[00:03:51] You know, he's obviously blinking by, he doesn't seem to want a full scale, you know, he has
[00:03:59] not gone out and taken this barbed wire down.
[00:04:02] And there may be something to it, because what I find is, you know, if you talk to ordinary
[00:04:08] people in the country, they really don't know what's happening in the border.
[00:04:12] What is true, the establishment, what, say, six, seven million people commences Biden basically
[00:04:18] open the border on his first day, but it's not reported in the mainstream media, and people
[00:04:24] really don't know very much about it.
[00:04:26] What may change after this is that these -- I don't like to call them migrants, they're
[00:04:31] not birds, you know, they're like Dutch infiltrators, but the sun's sharp in northern cities now,
[00:04:37] you know.
[00:04:38] That's a very -- you know, that migrant thing really drives me crazy, because, of course,
[00:04:41] it's a flight of hand on that one, we should never have accepted.
[00:04:44] They're not -- they're not migrants, they're legal, but, you know, it started to show up
[00:04:49] in northern cities now, and that's obviously disturbing, you know, people can see them
[00:04:57] on these cities, and so it's just suppressing the use of what's going on in the border is
[00:05:04] not going to be enough.
[00:05:05] Goodbye.
[00:05:06] Now, in my -- just looking at this, I had -- and I've mentioned this earlier in the program
[00:05:14] to not as well, but I'm going to just re-plow a little bit of ground with you, because I'm
[00:05:18] interested in your opinion.
[00:05:20] I read the letter that Abbott wrote, and it was very good, it was very well-reasoned,
[00:05:28] he basically cited straight on that he superseded -- or the state law superseded federal government
[00:05:38] here.
[00:05:39] He had the authority to defend the border.
[00:05:41] You can read that, it's been widely publicized, it's on everybody's websites.
[00:05:45] You can read the clauses and the sections and the articles that he cited.
[00:05:49] I did think, though, that it would be a performative defiance, but then you had the 25 governors
[00:05:57] who have made their statements of support.
[00:05:59] That's good.
[00:06:00] The longer this drags out, I think the better it'll be for our side, the tension and division
[00:06:05] in Washington.
[00:06:06] This is a tinderbox, and the political stress level being what it is in this country, you
[00:06:10] don't know when something is going to take on a life of its own bigger than what people
[00:06:17] like Abbott might have intended.
[00:06:19] But I guess my question for you as Peter, though, if Biden did decide to go ahead and
[00:06:24] make a move here, would push come to shove.
[00:06:28] I mean, at that point, do you really believe that Abbott and the 25 Republican governors
[00:06:33] who are standing with him would do something or would they just say, "Well, we fought the
[00:06:37] good fight," but obviously, you know, law is the law and so on and so forth, as we've
[00:06:42] seen happen before.
[00:06:44] I think it's getting beyond that.
[00:06:46] I think what I think might happen is Biden would do that is that the House, the House
[00:06:50] Republican, will finally get the courage to impeach Biden, which is what they should
[00:06:56] be doing.
[00:06:57] They should have messed some boundaries with my office.
[00:06:59] They should have impeached Biden.
[00:07:00] They should have been done as soon as he abrogated all those against the borders that Trump
[00:07:04] got in place to keep the border secure, and they should have done it before the 2022 election
[00:07:11] talks to make clear that the immigration was the big issue.
[00:07:15] If he were to get a file about with the taxes, I think it might very well have been done
[00:07:20] but might very well impeach him at that point.
[00:07:23] Well that would be interesting.
[00:07:24] The congressmen respectively said in the first hour that they should have a shutdown over
[00:07:31] the border issue.
[00:07:32] They should shut down the government, and of course, Congressman Stockman was involved
[00:07:35] in the last two shutdowns in the '90s and in the mid-2010s, I guess it was.
[00:07:42] But again, with this situation on the border, you've got all of the rhetoric.
[00:07:44] The rhetoric is sharp.
[00:07:45] The rhetoric is very sharp, but sometimes things take a life of their own and they don't
[00:07:49] follow a script.
[00:07:50] So I'm eager to see how this progresses because at some point somebody's going to have to
[00:07:54] cry uncle here.
[00:07:55] Now I guess, I mean, again, looking into your crystal ball, Peter, does Biden just sort
[00:08:00] of rerout as Congressman Stockman and King were saying in the first hour, he's just
[00:08:06] going to reroute.
[00:08:07] It's not as if the border has been secured.
[00:08:11] Texas has put a plug in it a little.
[00:08:12] I mean, it's not down to net zero immigration in Texas, God knows, but an eagle pass, which
[00:08:17] is where we're focusing on, it has been improved, but it's getting rerouted to Arizona, New
[00:08:21] Mexico and California.
[00:08:23] So does Biden just, is he just content to let it be rerouted there?
[00:08:28] They're still coming in.
[00:08:29] So ultimately, nothing's changed, it's a little harder to get in in Texas.
[00:08:32] Do you think that's the way it plays out?
[00:08:33] I think they're here through the election.
[00:08:36] I think they probably would like to see that the borders on the southwest, the numbers
[00:08:40] on the southwest border fall, just simply because they don't want to have to fight over
[00:08:44] Washington, they like to do it, but you know, the funny thing about what the message has
[00:08:49] done here is that this gang who's running the Biden White House is clearly not, clearly
[00:08:56] not by itself as there's a-
[00:08:59] Exactly.
[00:09:00] The gang of, no good mixing that, who are running it, is there sheer fanaticism of that
[00:09:08] I mean, the absolute term to shove as many illegals into the country as possible, a astounding
[00:09:16] pace.
[00:09:17] And that causes me to think that they're actually frightened.
[00:09:21] They think they've got to do this while they have a chance, while they've got the chance.
[00:09:25] And that goes back, I think, to 2016, I think, profoundly shocked by Trump winning.
[00:09:31] And they know that this project that they had to elect new people.
[00:09:37] I mean, Musk was talking about it, tweeting about it today.
[00:09:40] You know, the just aim is to get as many illegals as possible in their amnesty, and for my
[00:09:46] ferment and a permanent democratic majority.
[00:09:49] They know that it could be turned around to stop.
[00:09:52] It could have been done in Trump's first two years.
[00:09:54] They could have an immigration martyr on it, because they could have a war, they could
[00:09:58] have serious deportation.
[00:10:00] They know that it could be done.
[00:10:03] And there's a path to doing it if Trump, you know, if the election works out the way
[00:10:08] I think he might.
[00:10:09] So they've got to see the opportunity now to do as much damage to the historic American
[00:10:14] nations that can.
[00:10:15] And so for that reason, I think they may very well continue to bring these numbers in.
[00:10:21] They might try to mask it a bit, or they might try and slow it down, but essentially they
[00:10:28] won't need people here.
[00:10:30] I'm sure they think that.
[00:10:33] Well, the curious thing that has happened, you know, James, is that there's almost a consent
[00:10:36] alone.
[00:10:37] Shall we talk later?
[00:10:38] Yeah, hold on right there.
[00:10:40] We're going to take a break very quickly with Peter Brimlow, vdair.com.
[00:10:44] Check all the latest news on this and vdair's coverage of the crisis at the border.
[00:10:47] Interesting entry by Eugene Gant a few days ago on Texan.
[00:10:55] And what may be coming.
[00:10:56] We'll be back with Peter Brimlow next.
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[00:12:56] All right, and we're back and we are live from Florida.
[00:13:15] Peter Brimlow joining us via telephone.
[00:13:18] If you missed Congressman Steve King, Congressman Steve Stockman in the first hour, be sure to
[00:13:22] check in the broadcast archives, which will be up in just a few minutes after our live
[00:13:27] broadcast concludes tonight.
[00:13:29] Still Michael Gaddy to come in the third hour.
[00:13:31] We are talking about the situation at the Texas border, not just the crisis of immigration,
[00:13:36] but perhaps the coming constitutional crisis if this thing escalates.
[00:13:41] So Peter, you were making a point right before the break, I'd like to invite you to continue
[00:13:44] making it.
[00:13:45] Well, James, what you were saying is it goes to this point as to how much things have changed.
[00:13:49] I mean, there's almost a consensus emerging now among the Republican candidates, including
[00:13:56] I think Nikki Haley that hacked this seriously deportation after this next election.
[00:14:03] Trump is saying the mass deportation, the largest deportation of ever, because that's
[00:14:07] absolutely critical to get these people out of the country.
[00:14:11] And I don't know that anybody has given me serious thoughts on how to do it.
[00:14:14] It's not as difficult as it appears because once they realize that Jake Zilp, you know,
[00:14:18] most of them, many of them will just go home anyway, that's what happens during operation
[00:14:22] wetback in the 50s when I saw how salty earlier illegal immigration crisis.
[00:14:28] The other thing that we found is that, you know, there's a consensus among Republicans
[00:14:32] in Congress that something has to be done about both of our citizenship, which of course
[00:14:37] is, but both our citizenship is like it's like it's internal war, you have war on the
[00:14:42] border, but if you have both of our citizenship, it means that the illegals will get in here
[00:14:46] and have children, those children will not be citizens and they may stay around, but they're
[00:14:53] not going to be affecting the vote, which is what the Democrats are going to want them
[00:14:59] here for.
[00:15:00] So that's obviously something that she would do right away.
[00:15:03] It's not going to be as much publicity as mass deportation, but it does seem to be surprisingly
[00:15:10] widespread about Republicans in Washington, that's sort of something that's done about
[00:15:18] that.
[00:15:19] All right, I wanted to circle back to something you said just a moment ago about how this
[00:15:27] could be something where if you have Trump, obviously, and you have a Republican party
[00:15:32] that has increasingly warmed to the idea of a secure border.
[00:15:36] Now, this was obviously something that the Republican Congress wasn't very good on prior
[00:15:40] to Trump, but it has been remade in his image in large part on that issue.
[00:15:45] Now, just a few days ago at a rally, President Trump said that the first thing he will do
[00:15:51] when he's sworn in is usher in the largest deportation in American history.
[00:15:58] Now, of course, campaign promises, campaign rhetoric, and what is actually done once someone
[00:16:03] is elected, it's normally a wide gap in between the two, build the wall, we're going to make
[00:16:10] Mexico pay for it, so on and so forth, but that doesn't mean that he might not necessarily
[00:16:15] want to.
[00:16:16] Do you have any reason to hope that an emboldened Republican Congress on the issue of immigration
[00:16:23] coupled with an ascendant and hopefully vengeful Trump in a second hypothetical term, would
[00:16:30] make a move on immigration or is this just something that is meant to get people into
[00:16:34] the polls?
[00:16:35] No, I think the problem is the base, they're afraid of the base.
[00:16:40] If you notice the center line for the Oklahoma, the polls in this, what is essentially an
[00:16:46] amnesty bill, the Transmogals, an amnesty through under the guise of getting a border
[00:16:53] under control, he's been centered by his own partner in Oklahoma.
[00:16:57] That's obviously not something that they like to see, the possibility of primary jobs.
[00:17:03] So yes, I do think there's a possibility of, the thing is, they've learned a lot, it takes
[00:17:11] people time to learn a new issue and I think they are in fact so slowly learning the immigration
[00:17:19] issue.
[00:17:20] The border bill has been passed by Congress HR2, it is apparently a very good bill, of
[00:17:26] course the Senate won't take it up and it doesn't look like the use of which the Republican
[00:17:32] negotiators in the side have gotten anything, we don't know what they've gotten because
[00:17:38] they haven't released the bill yet, although they say they want to vote next week, ludicrous
[00:17:43] situation, of course, but generally I think there's much more will or determination to
[00:17:48] do something.
[00:17:49] If I want to share some of the interest.
[00:17:53] How would you, Peter, being someone who has had so much experience in the media, the
[00:17:59] regime media, having been both an editor with Forbes and MarketWatch and your illustrious
[00:18:05] career and then being on the receiving end of it as an immigration patriot with vdair,
[00:18:10] you've been on both sides.
[00:18:11] Well, you've always been on the right side, I should say, but you've been targeted and
[00:18:15] you've had some experience from
[00:18:16] working within the other side, National Review and so on and so forth. But the media coverage of this, I'm just to give you one example.
[00:18:24] This is USA Today and I flagged this one, a USA Today article, headline reads, "Eagle Pass Braces for Its Next Conflict."
[00:18:31] A Texas town, the sub headline reads, "has become the site where state officials face off with the federal authorities over who will control international migration."
[00:18:39] There's your word, Peter. "Eagle Pass and the crosshairs of an Abbott-Biden border standoff."
[00:18:44] In the story reads, "Last week, the Supreme Court ruled," obviously this is a few days old, "the federal agents could remove Texas's border wire."
[00:18:51] In response, Texas Governor Greg Abbott defied the court order, fueling a growing standoff over constitutional authority at the border.
[00:18:59] "Eagle Pass, Texas is now bracing for what's ever next, as public city areas are overtaken with Abbott-sponsored border security initiatives."
[00:19:07] Obviously, Abbott's the bad guy here. He's making things disruptive. He's kind of mucking up there.
[00:19:14] Utopia down there at Eagle Pass by putting up these security measures.
[00:19:18] Right.
[00:19:19] Nothing surprising there at all in terms of the media coverage, but I would still like to make mention of it and at least get one of our guests on record tonight on how the media is covering this.
[00:19:28] Generally, they've most importantly told us to press the news.
[00:19:35] I was talking to Lydia's family from Texas, and I was talking to my father more than the day, and he tells me that people he knows in Dallas have said they have no idea what's going on in the border.
[00:19:48] He knows about it. He sees me there, but to an extraordinary extent, people know I did, know that I did what's going on.
[00:19:57] Now, of course, with this, with this, you're right, the coverage of the Texas class, of course, is very partisan.
[00:20:08] But, you know, I have to say that we've got to be careful with our Supreme Court ruling. They didn't tell -- they didn't all -- they didn't say that Biden, like, Texas had to take the wire down.
[00:20:21] In fact, they're not actually ruling on the underlying legal court case at all. It was a temper and junction that they had to lay out.
[00:20:31] Well, Peter, I don't think -- I don't have a legal suggestion that it's quite as bad as you might think.
[00:20:38] Well, if you don't mind, Peter, we just -- a little surprise for you here.
[00:20:43] Congressman King actually just walked right back into where we were broadcasting, heard you were on, and put his headset back on.
[00:20:48] So, here he is now to say hello, Steve King and Peter Primalo.
[00:20:51] Well, Peter, I'm glad to hear from you, and glad to know that you're still out there fighting the good fight.
[00:20:56] It gives me a lot of encouragement, and my wife thinks that I ought to be retired,
[00:21:00] but yours doesn't think you ought to be. And so, I'm going to do it until my last breath,
[00:21:05] and even after that, I'm going to come back and haunt him. How about you?
[00:21:08] Well, I think you have to come and speak for the Bertha Springs Castle under your congressman.
[00:21:13] We're trying to have -- we're having conferences here now, so you must come and see it.
[00:21:18] He wants you to come to the V-Dare Castle and give an address.
[00:21:23] I have taken a look at that, and I hope one day I can do that.
[00:21:27] What would the dates be that would make that available, Peter?
[00:21:31] Well, we have a conference in April, but I think that's quick.
[00:21:34] We'll get a talk to you about it.
[00:21:36] There's a conference in late April, but if you were coming, we would try to put some down special.
[00:21:41] We'll get you some special for Steve King now.
[00:21:45] It's got to be the only one.
[00:21:48] I'm just a regular guy with an irregular job, so I don't need the red carpet so much,
[00:21:53] although I just came back from that one, and I've taken a good look at the castle that you have there,
[00:21:58] and that's just terrific.
[00:21:59] So it is something I want to do, and hopefully we can connect offline and figure out a way.
[00:22:03] They've got me plenty busy in Iowa right now defending our constitutional rights,
[00:22:07] but we were talking about the border, and I know you have to be doing that too,
[00:22:10] and how we're going to secure that, and what's going to happen politically if we don't secure that.
[00:22:14] I think the American people will rise up.
[00:22:16] They're not going to tolerate this much longer.
[00:22:18] Well, Peter, while we have Congressman King on, and we just have a minute or two before our next break,
[00:22:22] how about a question from you for the Congressman?
[00:22:25] I guess, I would say Congressman, do you think that the situation in Congress has improved since you were assassinated?
[00:22:34] I mean, you were treated very, very badly by your colleagues.
[00:22:39] Do you have the sense that they're now more attuned to the immigration issue?
[00:22:44] He's asking if Congress has improved on this issue.
[00:22:46] Sorry for having to repeat the question, Peter.
[00:22:48] It's that the headset here in the remote broadcast and the background noise.
[00:22:51] Yeah.
[00:22:52] As Peter's question for you was, has the congressional, the House GOP congressional metal been strengthened
[00:22:59] on the immigration issue since your time there?
[00:23:02] Well, no, I don't think it's ranked.
[00:23:04] I mean, we pushed that pretty hard, and we had some support, but we had people out there that didn't want to fix immigration.
[00:23:11] John Boehner was one.
[00:23:12] Paul Ryan was another.
[00:23:13] I'm naming the speakers up the line.
[00:23:15] Kevin McCarthy, even less.
[00:23:17] Now we have Mike Johnson is the speaker of the House.
[00:23:19] That does help.
[00:23:20] And I'd say that is an improvement.
[00:23:21] I think that was his question.
[00:23:22] Is it better now than it was when you were there?
[00:23:24] Yeah.
[00:23:25] And I'd say that I don't know that it's better when I arrived there, but it's better now than it was a year ago.
[00:23:31] Yes.
[00:23:32] No, that was the question.
[00:23:33] That was the question.
[00:23:34] And I think Mike Johnson is a good man.
[00:23:36] He's a kind of a quiet fellow.
[00:23:37] He's a full-spectrum constitutional Christian conservative.
[00:23:41] He supports the strong social agenda from the conservative side and a strong fiscal responsibility agenda.
[00:23:46] And he wants to secure the border.
[00:23:48] He's not as strong a personality as it might take to roll some of these people that are working against him, however.
[00:23:53] Well, I'm listening here with the background noise for when the music starts.
[00:23:57] This was something that Peter and I were talking about.
[00:23:59] Do you think that Trump, if and when he's reelected and a Republican House, would have the will to really throw down the hammer on the immigration issue?
[00:24:11] If Trump is saying as soon as he gets elected, it's going to be the greatest deportation we've ever seen.
[00:24:16] Well, he has to do better than Eisenhower then.
[00:24:18] But I hope he does.
[00:24:19] And I do think if it's a mandate for the American people, there's an election tsunami, which is probably going to take.
[00:24:27] Then that mandate can be carried out, but to deport 40 million people.
[00:24:32] Oh, I just figured this out on the way down here on the floor.
[00:24:36] I know this math. I hear the music. I got to turn your headset up.
[00:24:41] Maybe if you're with us after the break, we'll continue with Peter Bremlow.
[00:24:44] You can tell us this mess.
[00:24:45] That's a deal.
[00:24:46] We've got to take a quick throw.
[00:24:47] And then we'll hand it back to Peter.
[00:24:48] All right, Steve King and Peter Bremlow will be right back.
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[00:25:10] The Pentagon finally launching strikes in Iraq and Syria after Iran-backed proxy groups killed three members of the US military last week, at least 85 targets hit.
[00:25:15] B-1 bombers flown from here in the US to the Middle East to carry out the strikes.
[00:25:20] The bodies of the three sergeants, two women, ages 23 and 24, and one man, who was 46, flown back to Dover Air Force Base Friday in Delaware.
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[00:25:36] In other news, New York City launching a $50 million program to hand out prepaid credit cards to illegal aliens.
[00:25:43] Administrators from Democrat Mayor Eric Adams office will begin handing out the prepaid credit cards to families being housed in New York City hotels.
[00:25:52] The immediate response card initiative appears to be similar to the state's food stamp program called SNAP, which provides lower income New Yorkers with a credit card to cover the cost of food.
[00:26:05] This freebie comes as New York City police say the latest crime wave is illegal aliens who have formed pickpocketing teams who are stealing wallets, purses, and cell phones from unsuspecting patrons at restaurants and bars in Manhattan.
[00:26:20] At least four of the illegal alien men involved in assaulting two police officers last weekend in Times Square, kicking them in the head, were arrested and set free on no bail, and they have reportedly boarded a bus to California.
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[00:29:59] All right, and we are back with Peter Bremelow, who is the featured guest of this hour. Again,
[00:30:16] if you're tuning in late or if for any other reason you missed the first hour with Congressman
[00:30:20] Steve King and and Congressman Steve Stockman. Be sure to go back to our broadcast archives,
[00:30:26] check it out, Steve King making a surprise that's on-core here in the second hour with Peter Bremelow.
[00:30:33] And you're going to tell us a quick story about some calculations you had on the drive down to
[00:30:36] Florida this week. Yes, and I'm going for memory here. I'm going for memory here, but my wife punched
[00:30:40] the calculator, so I have to put that little clause in there that it's a disclaimer. However,
[00:30:44] we were going down through the Florida Turnpike running about 78 mile an hour on that. And I'm
[00:30:50] watching these cars going by and how many people are being moved. And I'm thinking they've been
[00:30:54] telling us that it's impossible to deport all the illegal aliens. And so I'm thinking logistically,
[00:30:59] what would that really take? So I thought, well, if you take a Kia or whatever that Mexican car is,
[00:31:04] a Sonora or something like that, and you put six illegal aliens in that car and you send it off
[00:31:09] down the road and to across the Rio Grande somewhere anywhere south there's fine. And so six a minute
[00:31:15] time and you need three seconds separation between each vehicle in order to be safe, that's your
[00:31:19] reaction time. So that's 20 vehicles a minute. And with three seconds a time, 20 vehicles a minute
[00:31:25] with six people in it, times 60 seconds, 60 minutes per hour, times 24 hours a day, times 365 days of
[00:31:32] the year. If you just set them up in one laid convoy running down at 60 mile an hour, how many
[00:31:39] illegals could you deport in a year? And this comes, this Peter does stuff like this, by the way.
[00:31:44] And, and I came up with this number of 62 million in only a year single lane of traffic. So who says
[00:31:51] it's too hard to deport all these people? And you can let them keep the key and it's still be cheaper
[00:31:54] than what you don't have them here or give it back to the Chinese. Some of the Chinese will be driving
[00:31:59] it as far as I'm concerned. What do you think? What do you think Peter? Does that math that up?
[00:32:03] You think? Oh, it's a simple math team. Simple math team, they came and they can go. It's as
[00:32:08] simple as that. I don't even know that you need major. I think most of them would leave it to
[00:32:14] realize that the greater trade was over. I mean, you heard on the news that the New York
[00:32:19] 50, they're actually handing out credit cards to illegals with several thousand dollars on them.
[00:32:24] So as long as they're doing that, these people are going to stay. When they, when they stop doing
[00:32:29] that, they'll leave. That's the real problem here is that the age, the federal government and
[00:32:35] the NGOs are actually financing this massive displacement. If that can be stopped,
[00:32:41] the incentive structure will completely alter.
[00:32:46] I heard, in our immigration hearing, we had Rosemary Jinx of Numbers USA testifying and
[00:32:56] the Democrats decide they were going to take her apart on her testimony when she advocated for
[00:33:00] deportation. Then they said, "Well, what are you going to do? Are you going to put them all on
[00:33:04] planes and buses and send them back to their home country? How can you do that logistically?"
[00:33:08] She just looked at them and said, "They can go home on their own. How are they going to do that?"
[00:33:14] She said, "They got here somehow. Use the same method to go home." It was really simple as she
[00:33:18] slammed the door on that argument. You do hear people ringing in their hands and trying to come
[00:33:22] up with complicated schemes to get them out if ever the will were to do that, which I think,
[00:33:29] increasingly, we are reaching that point where there is the political will to do it. There's
[00:33:33] certainly the will amongst the base. It's probably simpler than any of us realized.
[00:33:40] Well, they didn't have any idea to come through the Darian Gap. They don't have enough
[00:33:44] initiative to get back south of the Rio Grande. Peter? One of the things we do is look at him
[00:33:49] with a workforce population. You can get this. You can work them out from the
[00:33:58] Department of Labor's monthly report. The workforce population has been consistently
[00:34:05] gone for a very long time, but the first month, directly after the election, to 2016,
[00:34:12] it actually suddenly fell. It started to fall. Before Trump, he was even inaugurated.
[00:34:20] They thought the end had come and they asked. We ran an article from somebody on the border
[00:34:26] with contacts on the border saying people drive and packed them with washing machines in the
[00:34:32] back of the car and stuff like that, because they thought the rules were going to be a serious
[00:34:37] crackdown. Now, of course, that reversed, of course, when they reversed it, how Trump wasn't able
[00:34:42] to get control of Congress and so on. But on the end of this administration, before COVID,
[00:34:48] the immigrant workforce population was again falling in absolute terms because of all these
[00:34:53] regulations and executive orders he got there. Then, of course, COVID came and it fell very
[00:34:59] dramatic. What I mean, he was able to do something, and he was failing to respond to incentives,
[00:35:05] and he just got changed his incentives. The critical thing that I've got, I think,
[00:35:10] is going to be moving the part of the story, putting illegal aliens in schools. The kids in
[00:35:17] school, they shouldn't be up to free school. That's a subvert, somewhat up to $10,000
[00:35:23] of people for people costing the public school. Why are we doing this?
[00:35:27] Peter, I would say also, I hear from people who say, "Well, we can't deport them because
[00:35:35] who's going to fix our roofs and who's going to clean the toilets and who's going to more
[00:35:39] lawns?" They go through all of that. Well, if that number is 30 to 40 million people,
[00:35:44] and I don't think that's a reach anymore, it may well be more than that. But if they all went home,
[00:35:48] there's a whole lot less work to do taking care of them. Those folks, they might find a way,
[00:35:53] and then they will say, "Well, who's going to raise our crops and who's going to prepare our food?"
[00:35:57] Does there ever been any civilization that ever went hungry because they were too lazy?
[00:36:03] I don't think so. We got here somehow also. We evolved into this. We devolved into this
[00:36:09] situation of dependency on illegal aliens, and we can transition out of it. We'll always find
[00:36:14] the ways to adapt to that, and in our culture, what do we store it if we do that? The rule of law also.
[00:36:19] What it's done, of course, is in PDS, retarded mechanization, in agriculture. If you look at the
[00:36:28] history of mechanization, agriculture was proceeding along very well, basically, until Martin and
[00:36:33] This is the question for people who would ask that. What would we ever do with Adam? How
[00:36:59] do we ever make it before they came to help us so generously?
[00:37:03] Why do they have to be the obvious one that I didn't have a leader?
[00:37:07] Why do they have to be illegal? Well, why do they have to be illegal? Why do I have to
[00:37:11] depend on illegal? We have lots of legal immigrants coming in. I think that you've
[00:37:15] been immigration moratorium for that 50 years, no, not immigration. But we don't – we
[00:37:20] are bringing in a million legal – legal immigrants. Why are they going to pick this?
[00:37:27] What do they for if we still have to bring in, you know, six, seven million illegals in
[00:37:31] three years? What's the point of having a legal immigration?
[00:37:36] I think that a real serious – I was joking about migrants earlier on, but the serious
[00:37:41] happen to try and persuade the public of the illegal immigration and legal immigration
[00:37:47] really the same thing. They don't make a distinction between them. The great thing
[00:37:51] about legal immigration is you could actually choose them. The choosing processes is not
[00:37:57] very efficient, apart because there's too much family reunification so it's all going
[00:38:01] on. But at least you can choose who these people are. Make sure they don't have diseases
[00:38:05] so why do you have to have 300,000 illegals a month come across the border when you can't
[00:38:10] choose them at all? Well, and I propose legislation that would have put a merit system in place
[00:38:17] for legal immigration. And they would have a number of characteristics in there, one
[00:38:22] what they'd be young, so they're not going on Social Security and Medicare right away,
[00:38:26] young. They'd have to have an education. They'd have an ability to have an earnings. They
[00:38:31] had to have an English language-speaking skills because that's the best measure of
[00:38:35] assimilation that you can have. There was one other indication in there, but if we went
[00:38:42] for those kind of people, they would assimilate quickly into the society with the language
[00:38:47] skills, the earning capacity, the education, and demonstrating that they'd be young and
[00:38:52] healthy. That's pretty much what we talked about earlier about Ellis Island, at least
[00:38:56] required that they'd be healthy. And we don't even do that if we bring people in on tragedy
[00:39:00] because they maybe have AIDS or they have some kind of illness. They're bringing illnesses
[00:39:05] that have been eradicated here for generations, tuberculosis. You know there's a surge in
[00:39:10] TB engine, tuberculosis is just a report in the Bay area in California. And now I tweeted
[00:39:16] out about this a few minutes ago, the San Jose Mercury News brought an article about it.
[00:39:21] But didn't say about immigration? The closest it came to was to say San Francisco's a big
[00:39:27] international population. Because the reason is because people come across the border who
[00:39:32] aren't in any way vetted and aren't tested. And as the article said, I think it's in San
[00:39:38] Francisco.
[00:39:39] I'm just going to say Peter, I think it's in San Francisco also where I saw an article
[00:39:45] a few days ago where they're having to lock up the microwavable meals in the grocery stores
[00:39:51] now behind, you know, like everything else, you know, these right-aids, these Walgreens,
[00:39:55] these pharmacy, wherever, they're having to lock up everything on the shelf. Used to,
[00:39:58] they would lock up certain items, other locking up socks. I guess that's just the benefits
[00:40:04] of multiculturalism and rampant immigration. But anyway, continue.
[00:40:10] Well, you know, the Congress was completely right. I mean, we are all going to put them
[00:40:15] guard against disease. And of course, one of the, one of the, there's a lot of bad reporting
[00:40:20] on the COVID thing. But one of the, one of the things that really is, they made no effort
[00:40:25] to figure out where it was coming from. I mean, Trump was right. He just shut off China.
[00:40:30] He should have done it earlier. Disease does travel internationally and commitment to immigration
[00:40:38] is so great that they wouldn't, they wouldn't close to COVID migration down.
[00:40:45] A quick break, I hear the music, our last break of the hour, an embarrassment of riches
[00:40:49] tonight. People are most Steve King here this hour. Steve King, Steve Stockman, the first
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[00:43:02] And we're back. We've had the honor of the last segment of and a half of being rejoined
[00:43:31] by Steve King, who was our featured guest along with Steve Stockman in the first hour, and
[00:43:35] teaming him up with Peter Bremlow. As we continue to talk about the situation at the
[00:43:39] border, now we're going to get into this. The real meats and potatoes of this with columnist
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[00:44:13] really looking forward to getting down into the fine details with Michael Gaddy as we wrap
[00:44:18] up a sensational show tonight with the two Steves. And now Peter Bremlow, before Congressman
[00:44:24] King left to go to his next engagement here at the conference, he wanted me to ask you,
[00:44:32] in the Democrats' mind, or people really even thinking this way, how many is too many?
[00:44:37] How much is too much? What is our carrying capacity? Is the room for eight billion illegal
[00:44:40] aliens? I mean, is there a number there? Is it just supposed to go on like this forever?
[00:44:46] That's a good question. Nobody really extrapolates that.
[00:44:49] Yeah, I mean, there's an assumption that the American population has got to continue to
[00:44:55] go on this ballot. It doesn't. But I've never understood the arguments. I mean, it's like
[00:45:02] an individual family size. People don't all typically have 20 children, although women
[00:45:10] are feeling the capable of bearing 20 children at the start. They tend to have smaller families.
[00:45:16] And the same is true with countries. At some point, there's no reason why they shouldn't
[00:45:22] stabilize the population, as long as the skill levels continue to improve. They could have
[00:45:29] a sort of great economic growth without going to the sky. They don't have to be as big as
[00:45:37] and your China desperate drive to increase.
[00:45:41] – and the culture of America – you don't need this constant impulse. I think immigration
[00:46:07] for the Americans right now is a luxury. They don't need it, and the surge in these enormous
[00:46:14] numbers – that have happened since 1965 Immigration Act, and of course, the collapse
[00:46:18] of the borders. A little immigration can have a certain beneficial effect, but bringing
[00:46:25] people in the numbers where they're actually displacing the host population. It's true
[00:46:31] that whites are going to go into – whites were 90% of the population in 1960, and they're
[00:46:36] going to go into a minority very soon, within 10, 10, or 15 years, and that's entirely
[00:46:40] the contribution. There's no cause for that. There's no reason for that. There are a lot
[00:46:46] of people in power right now, including those around Joe Biden, who simply don't like white
[00:46:50] Americans, and a more comfortable, as a Levantine situation, with a great mix of people, and
[00:46:56] that's one of the things that's driving them. But I don't see why all of America – why
[00:47:00] actual American nationalists should put up with that, patriots should put up with that.
[00:47:06] All right. Let me ask you this. This was something we foreshadowed this or teased this a few
[00:47:12] minutes ago. Eugene Gantt's article entry at Vdair, "Text It Just A Symptom, Immigration
[00:47:19] Driven Displacement Really Is Breaking Up U.S. State." So you have, of course, you know,
[00:47:23] we've talked about the issue of what's going on in Idaho. That's well known to people,
[00:47:31] but even – I didn't know, Peter, that you had it with some counties in Illinois. Obviously,
[00:47:38] the situation in Virginia, West Virginia, greater West Virginia, the CAL-3.
[00:47:42] What does the future look like for potential secession movements, regional or otherwise,
[00:47:55] red state, blue state, or even regional, here in the United States? How could this play
[00:47:58] out in favor of that? I think the redefined in the state is absolutely
[00:48:04] inevitable now because a lot of it goes back to Supreme Court decision, which imposed one
[00:48:11] man-in-one vote regime on these big states, so that they don't have a balance in mechanism
[00:48:17] like the U.S. Senate, which balances the several communities. So that means, for example, here
[00:48:22] in West Virginia, just across the Potomac is Western Maryland, it's completely outvoted.
[00:48:30] It's basically very conservative culture, very light West Virginia, but it's completely
[00:48:34] unfolded by Baltimore. So why should they stay in a state where they have no voice?
[00:48:43] And it's famous true in the Eastern, or Eastern Shore, or the Western, too. So I think the
[00:48:48] state will be – will be divided at some point because people are just going to get fed
[00:48:51] up with being outvoted. And, you know, immigration is helping that, it's driving that because
[00:48:58] it's bringing in people with very different values. And they're outvoting, like Northern
[00:49:05] Virginia, for example, now it's heavily made with immigrant. And these are people who vote
[00:49:09] for government role, but in South-South Virginia, you know, it's American still. And they don't
[00:49:14] want government role. So why should they push up with being outvoted by these people? The
[00:49:18] whole thing to do is secede and join the West Virginia. Or, you know, to express that kind
[00:49:24] of subdivision. The article, "We've been following this for years." And there are lots of examples
[00:49:30] all over the country where people are agitating to get out. Just a couple of years ago, in
[00:49:38] the Western panda of Maryland, several legislators have appealed to join West Virginia because
[00:49:44] if you wanted to feed from the German and German to Virginia, it makes a great deal of sense.
[00:49:48] So we're going to see a lot of that. What ultimately – what's really going to happen
[00:49:52] though, if this influence continues, people are actually going to think about leaving the
[00:49:58] union, which isn't detectable. And you can see that that's happening in Texas.
[00:50:03] All right. So it's a double-tiered thing. You could see the regional or state – in
[00:50:10] states, it's a session or reforming – however you want to call it. Call it a session. Call
[00:50:15] it a national divorce. But you could have it on a state level or on a regional level,
[00:50:20] or people actually leaving the union, not just the state's resorting. Although any
[00:50:24] of it is fantastic to think about it. I mean, it's hard to believe that anything – that
[00:50:28] exciting could actually happen because we've just been on this dull simmer for so many
[00:50:32] decades now, just slowly circling the drain to where something like this – a state split
[00:50:38] up or even states leaving the union. You think that that is a realistic possibility though.
[00:50:41] Or even I like the state. I think state splitting up, really by the state, it is likely. It's
[00:50:49] very likely. You know, something like Greg Idaho, where they just annex Oregon, Eastern
[00:50:56] Oregon, annex itself. So I don't know. I think that's inevitable because of the divisions
[00:51:02] of immigration introduced and the really compatibility between the different parts of the state as
[00:51:11] to whether the union itself will break up. You know, it's just a question how long they
[00:51:20] go on before we get this immigration situation to control. And so – I don't think it's
[00:51:31] impossible. I mean, this drive to get the Texas – Texas – the referendum in Texas
[00:51:36] are on the Republican ballot this year. They have to go to extraordinary lengths to frustrate
[00:51:43] it. As in California, they have to get only, like, just a way to sabotage it. But, you
[00:51:52] know, it happened like 190,000 signatures, you know, which is significant.
[00:51:58] You know, Peter, I'm going to tell you we have a – No, I was just going to say very
[00:52:04] quickly we have a small crowd here that most people are in the main hall and we're here
[00:52:08] doing a remote broadcast, which is part of the official program of doing it because this
[00:52:12] is my live broadcast time and they gave us a spot to do. We have a small crowd gathered
[00:52:15] around and listening and listening to you and a gentleman just walked over. He wrote
[00:52:19] the sharpie, "Texas will leave." So, you know, I think that there is a certain amount
[00:52:28] of excitement within the base to see something like this happen. That's the thing. I mean,
[00:52:31] there is a will there, whether or not the politicians will tap into it, whether or not
[00:52:36] they're going to be too controlled. I mean, the Republicans have never really been our
[00:52:39] friends on a grand level. Although they are moving in our direction on immigration, always
[00:52:43] you have people like King and Stockman. You had individuals that, you know, are obviously
[00:52:47] great, but if they want to keep up at the base, you know, things are happening and I can see
[00:52:53] it now. I do see a realistic scenario, a gameable, playable scenario where this happens, but
[00:53:00] we have about a minute remaining, a fast hour again. Final word to you, Peter Bremlow, vdair.com.
[00:53:06] Support the work of Peter and the vdair group. Nobody does it better on this issue.
[00:53:13] We have a conference coming up here in West Virginia in April, so if you go on the side
[00:53:16] and look around, you can, you'll be happy to book your ticket.
[00:53:23] All right, it's all there. Information at vdair.com, Peter. That's right.
[00:53:29] All right, you can check it out. Support the work and attend the conference. Have a chance
[00:53:35] to go and see the Berkeley Springs Castle there and that fantastic town that I will be visiting
[00:53:44] for the first time this year and I am looking forward to that. I have not yet been there
[00:53:48] and I look forward to rectifying that problem. Peter, again, folks, vdair.com is your stop
[00:53:55] for the immigration issue, an issue that has been, once again, thrust to the forefront.
[00:53:59] It's always been in the forefront of our hearts and minds, but now it's become, at least for
[00:54:03] now, the national issue and let's hope that it continues to be there. It's going to play
[00:54:07] into the good guys' hands, I think. And let's hope, let's hope. What else can we do? Let's
[00:54:13] hope that there is a will to power on this and that Trump will harness it if you can
[00:54:19] get reelected. Listen, I know for me once, for me twice, say this, say that, promise
[00:54:24] this, didn't happen. What are you going to do, vote for Biden? So let's go. Peter Bremlow,
[00:54:28] vdair.com. We'll talk to you again very soon. God bless you.
[00:54:32] Thank you.
[00:54:33] All right, there he goes. We'll be back with Michael Gaddy, third and final hour as I broadcast
[00:54:39] live from Orlando, Florida's not given the speech to a big crowd tomorrow and broadcasting
[00:54:46] live tonight with some great guests. Michael Gaddy to wrap it up.