Radio Show Hour 1 – 2026/09/05

[00:00:01] You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program. And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.

[00:00:31] Well, it's good to be home, everybody. It is Saturday evening, September the 5th. I'm your host, James Edwards, capping off a 14-day period that had me going to eight different cities. And it all started, I guess it was three weeks ago now. So this 14-day period would have been between August 14th through the 30th. And August the 14th, of course, we were down in Wetumpka, Alabama,

[00:01:00] broadcasting live from the Southern Cultural Center's National Conference. And since then, I have been all over the map, I guess. Last weekend in Washington, D.C., and back home now. Busy week for the Edwards family. My younger brother, my only sibling, has a birthday tomorrow. My dad's birthday is on Monday.

[00:01:24] So looking forward to spending time with family here coming up over the course of the next couple of days. As I said, though, eight cities, 14 days started in Alabama. There was a stretch last week of four different cities, four different hotels, and four consecutive nights. And what we were doing, I was meeting with supporters in some cases, stopping by to just meet individual supporters. Also meeting with leaders in private meetings. You know, there's two kinds of meetings. Well, maybe three.

[00:01:53] You have the AMREN public conference. You have the TPC-style conferences, which are private and invitation only. And then you have truly private meetings with other collaborators and other people who are leading organizations where you're meeting private to work on projects. And that's what the purpose of this trip was. And, of course, if we're ever doing a conference, you're invited to it if you're one of our donors.

[00:02:20] But this was a different kind of thing aside from the event in Alabama that I mentioned. My wife and kids went. They typically, at least one of them will tag along. But my whole family went on this most recent trip up to D.C. And we made several stops for several different reasons along the way, including in Lexington, Lexington, Virginia. It is so important to remember who your heroes are.

[00:02:46] And I had visited the graves of Generals Lee and Jackson several times myself. But it was my first time to take my kids. And so last week, middle of last week, or a week before last now, I guess it was, we were there. And very, very important. There's a reason that they built these monuments.

[00:03:07] And the reason is, a healthy society puts on its pedestals the men that we should strive to be like, that we should strive to emulate. And that's why those monuments are there. And very special to be able to be there with my wife, my son, and my two daughters. And we had some fun along the way, too. In addition to the work portion of it, we stopped by Natural Bridge, Virginia. Very beautiful, natural wonder.

[00:03:37] We toured some caverns, and we made it up to D.C. on Thursday, August 20th, 27th. My mind is so scattered right now. But it was, yes, the 27th is when we made it up to Washington. And I spent that day, I didn't have meetings that day. And so I spent that day touring D.C. It was the first time I had the opportunity.

[00:04:03] I've been to Washington many times for different meetings and for business. It was my first time, though, to actually do some sightseeing since I was up there in 2003 to meet with Willis Carto and American Free Press. That was the year before the radio show started, of course. And that was the last time I was there and actually took some time to myself to see some things. And, of course, I was seeing some things with my family that made it special.

[00:04:32] And we were situated right – our hotel was right in the middle of D.C., a five-minute walk to the White House. And that was actually one of the first things we did. My kids wanted to see the White House. And you get there, and it's completely, completely impenetrable barricaded. Not like I remember it at all. Pennsylvania Avenue, you couldn't even get to that part of Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House. Secret Service said, yeah, if you go down to Constitution Avenue, you can get a photo op there if you want to take pictures. I said, well, we just want to see it.

[00:05:02] I went down to Constitution, and it's a pretty far gander at the White House. You're closer to the Washington Monument than the White House. But there was a good viewing spot from H Street. If anybody knows downtown D.C., H Street had a pretty good – you weren't very far from the White House. It's really interesting how this has evolved over the years when Lincoln was president. You could just walk up to the door and knock on it. He might not come to the door. You might not be able to see him, but you could do that.

[00:05:28] You probably need a little bit more security than that for a head of state. But this thing was so locked down, and you have to have that. Why? You have to have it because in a multicultural society like this, in a modern-day babble like this, there is no trust, there is no security. And let me tell you that the seat of the empire, Washington, D.C., while it is beautiful in terms of some of its buildings, the architecture,

[00:05:56] the classic Roman-style architecture is breathtaking. And it just really is. It was just a complete mix of everything in the world and everybody in the world. I didn't necessarily feel unsafe at any point because they did have the National Guard. I mean, it was basically like you were under military occupation, so you felt safe in that way.

[00:06:23] I didn't feel unsafe walking around D.C. to all the sites, but it was an education. Uber did a lot of Ubering. Everybody who picked us up in an Uber was from a different third-world nation. We didn't even see the same third-world nation twice. India, the Sudan, you name it. There was a Sikh. There was, you know, these Indians. I don't know about the Indians. The Korean-like just comes through the poor. They're poor, I guess.

[00:06:53] But anyway, so, but I mean, you know, they were polite enough, got us to where we needed to go. But we did see the Washington Monument. We did see the White House. We saw the reflecting pool, which is completely also barricaded. It's drained. It's only a foot or two deep, even with water, and it's got heavy equipment in it. Trucks and all kinds of stuff. I don't know what's going on there. And I asked him, I said, why is everything shut down? I mean, why is everything, why can't you get, and I'm not talking about just regular fencing.

[00:07:22] It was heavy metal barricades, black. You couldn't see through it. And they said, well, they put it up seven months ago for refurbishment, and they said it was going to be a quick cleanup, and then they've never taken them down since. And so, you know, nobody really knows why it's barricaded like that. But we did see the Capitol. I went to the Supreme Court. There are some beautiful monuments there and some statues and all of that stuff. The Smithsonian museums, I didn't know because, again,

[00:07:51] it has been so long since I've been there as a tourist. All of the Smithsonian, this collection of museums are free. You go to them, and they're free. And by the time my wife and kids went over to the Smithsonian, they went to the National Archives Museum, and they also went to the Museum of Natural History, and there were several others. But, you know, and the Declaration of Independence is in there. You know, the actual Declaration of Independence,

[00:08:18] you can step right up and take a picture with it, and they did. So it was good for them to see that. And we were at a very fine hotel, and I was there for these meetings with a lot of different leaders of our cause, and just a lot of progress was made. There is so much going on. There's so much going on right now. There's never been a time like it. Everything's in play right now, and you just sort of felt it meeting with some of the folks that I met with.

[00:08:45] And there is a very palpable sense of optimism and hope for positive advancement, and I'm seeing now more than ever before different groups cooperating with one another and coordinating projects with one another. And through the work of this program, I have been blessed to be able to be a facilitator in some of that and bringing these people together.

[00:09:12] And just there in D.C. for three or four days, we were able to make some real concrete plans and to hear plans and ideas being shared. So all of that was going on. Going back a couple of weeks ago, starting in Alabama, I tried to cluster my travel schedule so it's just not all spread out over the year and just do it in a condensed type of way. And that's what we've been doing these last couple of weeks.

[00:09:40] I've got one more stop in Missouri week after next for a talk, and that'll be it. I have two kids who have birthdays in October, and then you get into Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I really like to not travel during the fall and early winter. And so Missouri is going to wrap it up in a couple of weeks. But I got a call. I got a call. We were actually planning to come home earlier this week on Tuesday

[00:10:07] and make a surprise stop in a little town called Troutdale, Virginia, and see some dear friends there. But on our way back, we had to race home. I got a call last weekend in Washington from my pastor's daughter, and she was letting me know that he wanted to see me, that time was getting short. And I'm going to be careful not to share any private health information,

[00:10:37] but the time was getting short. And I stepped outside on Pennsylvania Avenue, and I called my pastor and talked to him for 30 minutes there last Friday. And I'll tell you a little bit more about that when we come back. Some of the latest additions to Antelope Hill's varied catalog

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[00:13:10] So I'm wrapping up this two-week blitz, and one of my pastor's four daughters calls me and says that dad wants to talk to you, he wants to see you, this is what's going on, and he had been in declining health for a while, but I think that this rapid level of recent deterioration had caught people off guard, it certainly caught me off guard, and I talked to him fairly regularly.

[00:13:38] And I immediately got off and called him and was walking around on Pennsylvania Avenue getting the information and the news, and I said, Pastor, I'm here now, if I was home, I'd be there in minutes, but I'm here, and I'm going to cut my trip short, and I'm going to drive home straight on Sunday as soon as I can get out of here. And many of you know him, a lot of you have met him at some of our conferences, more have heard him on the radio, especially some years ago.

[00:14:07] He was born in Pascagoula, Mississippi, which is, of course, the home of the Mississippi Squirrel Revival, the great Ray Stevens song. Pastor was a big Ray Stevens fan, and when Ray came on TPC for an interview, Pastor co-hosted that interview with me a few years back, and then we went to go see Ray Stevens in concert along with my parents and my wife and kids and met Ray backstage, and just one of so many great memories

[00:14:36] over the course of my life. He, though, was born in Pascagoula, Mississippi, down on the Mississippi Gulf Coast, went to seminary, and then got hired to pastor the only congregation he would ever lead in the early 1980s when I was just a very young boy, maybe five years old, maybe not even that old. He came to Memphis with his wife, and then at that time, two daughters. He had four daughters total.

[00:15:05] Two were a couple of years older than me. Two were a few years younger than me, but all within a 10-year span of one another, so we all grew up together, and my parents and my maternal grandmother were already members of that church when he came, and they became fast friends. We lived right around the corner from the church. Basically, everybody in the neighborhood went to the church, and the church was right there in the neighborhood,

[00:15:36] and he would come over, and Grandma would cook. I think they even lived with my grandparents for a while. When they were first looking for housing here in Memphis, Grandma would cook for him all the time, immediately became just such a dear friend of our family, and vice versa. In fact, when looking back on my life to this point, I'm 46 years old. I've known him since before my ability to even process memories.

[00:16:04] Looking back on my life to this point, I grow more thankful every day that I was born into this family with a father and a mother who took me to church every Sunday, and from this time that I was old enough to retain memory, I knew on Sunday we were going to go to church at this small Southern Baptist congregation, and it was on those pews that I spent the early years of my life marinating in those pews,

[00:16:32] and it has made me a better man, and I think certainly a better man, but I think a better advocate and a more effective advocate as well. And I was very fortunate to have had the stability of consistent parents and grandparents who always knew, let me know how much I was loved, the importance of our cultural and spiritual heritage,

[00:17:00] and the difference between right and wrong, so it was in this nest that I flourished as a young boy when you're having these formative experiences, and that really is what I consider white privilege to be. White privilege, if it exists at all, is that our people engage in high investment parenting, and so I had these solid, sturdy examples

[00:17:29] from the very earliest of years. My maternal grandfather was a deacon at his church. It was a different church than the one that I grew up in, but I still went with him sometimes if I was spending the night over there, also in Memphis. He was a deacon there, and my grandmother on that side was very involved in the church as well, and then I had my paternal grandfather who didn't become a Christian until his very last days, but he had this incredible work ethic.

[00:17:58] He was illiterate. He couldn't read or write, but he built a very successful construction business, and I don't just mean, you know, handyman stuff, although that's good work. That's honorable work, but it was a concrete subcontracting business, and they were building homes, neighborhoods, apartments, shopping centers, very big developments in Memphis,

[00:18:28] and although he wasn't a church-going type, he was very charitable towards the church. He actually built an addition onto the church for free and poured the slab and did all of that, and he loved the pastor too, and then there was my dad, of course. You know, my dad's still alive, but at once the captain of the fire department, the coach of the basketball team at school,

[00:18:58] a business owner working in the family business along with my grandfather. So my two grandfathers, my father, and then there was pastor. Pastor. And I shudder to think what paths I might have taken had it not been for that solid foundation upon which my upbringing was built. I mean, who's to say? Who's to say? It's certainly not to say that you cannot come from a broken home

[00:19:27] and not come from very challenging, you know, a very challenging environment and not grow to become a great man. Surely you can, but there is a reason that, you know, you have this ideal and this model, and it's because it does give you some advantages. You can overcome disadvantages, and there are people with all of this that just don't turn out good. It just doesn't, there's no exact science to it,

[00:19:55] but if given the choice, I would have wanted to be raised in the environment that I was raised in this, the environment that I try to instill in my home. And so, how do you replace these men? You don't. You can't. How can you? How could you ever replace somebody like Pastor? My pastor.

[00:20:24] The only pastor I ever had. The only church I ever belonged to. He was quite literally part of every, without any exaggeration or hyperbole, every major moment of my life. Whether it be a time of celebration or despair, he was there, and he was always there.

[00:20:53] I came to accept Christ at an early age. He led me to that decision. When each of my four grandparents died, he was there. He introduced me to my wife. He officiated our wedding. When my kids were born, he was there every time. Sometimes he was the first one at the hospital when they were born.

[00:21:22] These are the very physical life and death moments that define your world. I've never gone through one without him. I don't know how. I don't know how. You've heard the story, of course, about, told us so many times

[00:21:52] on my anniversaries with my wedding anniversary. He came over to the house. I had a pickup truck at the time. He needed an extra truck to haul luggage to the youth camp. This was just the night before. If I had not been home that night, my life is totally different. I happened to be home. I was still living at home at the time, but I was home.

[00:22:23] I said, sure, pastor, anything for you. I'll drive. I get up there the next morning. They load the bed of the pickup truck up. He says, well, we have two extra guests that are coming this year. Is it okay if they ride with you? Because I had room for three in the cab of the truck. I said, sure. One of them was my future wife. It's just stuff like that. He

[00:22:53] introduced us, officiated our wedding, as I mentioned, and again, they officiated the funerals of everybody, every close relative who ever died. And he was there no matter the time. Both of my grandmothers passed away in the middle of the night, some years apart, but 1 a.m., 2 a.m. And he was there

[00:23:22] before the ambulances left, but I think one time before the ambulances even got there, and this is 2 a.m. You know, that's above and beyond. Churches today, so businesslike, so impersonal, this was a real flesh and blood congregation, just a sweet fellowship that emanated from the head down,

[00:23:51] him behind the pulpit, and it just cascaded. And you had that sort of, you had that community. And whether you're a capital C Christian or a small C Christian, you know, you can appreciate that aspect of it at least and how it's good for our people in that way. And it was just the most wonderful, I told my dad this last week, I said,

[00:24:21] I had the best childhood any boy could ever have. We'll talk a little bit more about this and I'll tell you why I'm talking about this and why we're taking the time to talk about this. I'm going to get to the point of all this much more than remembering a great man. And we'll talk about it when we come back. Stay tuned, please.

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[00:25:23] after Iran's previous attacks at sea targeted commercial shipping. The U.S. military said that two Iranian oil carriers were permanently disabled and that a third unladen one was destroyed. They called the tankers part of a shadow network helping to fund Iran's Revolutionary Guard. Iran warned of more strikes against U.S. military ships. John Scott reporting. A deadly crash in an air show in Greece. Correspondent Julie Walker reports. A Greek Air Force jet crashes at an air show

[00:25:52] north of Athens killing the plane's two pilots Saturday. The resulting fire sent large plumes of black smoke into the air which several thousand spectators could see. There were no injuries among the attendees. The crash of the twin-seat Phantom F4 jet occurred during a low-altitude maneuver. Water-dropping planes and helicopters assisted firefighters in an effort to contain the blaze which happened away from where the spectators were. Organizers of Athens Flying Week

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[00:30:18] And someone called your name We turned and saw this young man And he was smiling As he came And he said Friend You may not know me now And then he said But wait You used to teach my Sunday school And I was only eight

[00:30:47] And every week you would say a prayer Before the class would start One day When you said that prayer I asked Jesus In my heart

[00:31:01] I am so

[00:31:29] Talking about my pastor tonight The years all my life All those years From boyhood on The memories Crying together Laughing together So many good times and precious memories In church every Sunday Yes The after church meals Visiting In each other's homes It was a Just a I wish you all

[00:31:59] Could have known it Sixty people at church You know Maybe Maybe a hundred On Christmas and Easter If it was busting At the seams Remember And I love These small churches Just a single piano Singing from the hymnals Vacation Bible schools That I taught The choir Family vacations Together And as I grew From a boy To a man And got involved In politics Pastor was still there He helped with The Buchanan campaign Then as is now We never had

[00:32:29] An abundance of resources So if we were Doing something In Memphis Rather than Go to a place And rent chairs He would let us Take some chairs From church Provided of course They were back In time for the service He was an Absolutely Invaluable Asset to my campaign For the state legislature In 2002 When I announced We had a A kickoff party In March of 2002

[00:32:59] About 100 people There He introduced me He gave the speech That introduced me And introduced my candidacy Throughout the Entire course Of that campaign He knocked on doors He made all Of our mailers I mean we did Some direct mail And he came up With all of the The slogans And he was A genius Marketer I mean he really Was I still have the Mailers in the Attic that we Used During that Campaign

[00:33:28] He was with me Every step of the Way even in That endeavor And he was with me On election night To console me In my defeat And no matter What was going on In my life Whatever it May have been He was there To provide Guidance And wisdom Always resolute And he always Made the right Decision And not having Him in this World is going To be An incalculable

[00:33:58] Loss to me If you have Ever appreciated Anything that I've done Or anything That I've Attempted to do So much of it Has come from The example That I had set Before me Throughout the Course of my Life These men And him As I've said Many of you Met him He The first Conference we

[00:34:28] Ever had When we had A kickoff Party For the For the radio Show Sonny Landum The actor From Predator Came down For that Pastor was There too Of course But he The first time We had an Anniversary conference Was our 10 year Anniversary conference And he was there To open that In prayer He was there For every Conference we Had in Memphis To open it In prayer To set in As an attendee Opening it In prayer Those Friday Nights

[00:34:58] Before the Supper that Evening And he Sat in He was Sitting right Next to Jared Taylor As Jared did A clarinet Solo Or as actually A duet Along with our Friend the Pianist The pianist He was there For all of that He was there For everything Everything And So many Of you More Have heard Him on The air He Before we

[00:35:28] Did the Every Christmas And Easter Message with Pastor Brett McAtee He Would Would do Some Christmas And Easter Messages We didn't Do it Every year But it's What gave Me the Idea To do It Every year And now Brett Has taken Over For that After Pastor's Health Had been In decline For some Years But our Last visit Was on Monday Tuesday Was actually September 2nd Was his 77th Birthday

[00:35:59] And Monday was Our last Visit And my Dad went With me And we Were there With him In his Den And he Knew that The time Was short And we Talked about The old Days and The old Memories We talked About the Night he Beat me In risk I was I played As Europe And he Somehow beat Me as Australia One of the Church night Gatherings

[00:36:29] I don't Even know How old I was But it Was a Long time Ago Very sad Very Difficult Meeting On Monday But he Praised God Through It all What a Mighty God We About Not Wanting To Leave His Wife And His Girls And He Reminded me Of a Story that I'd Heard Before But He told The story

[00:36:59] Again About When my Dad's Dead My paternal Grandfather Was dying Of cancer At Vanderbilt He had Gone Into Surgery I think It was A 23 Hour Surgery Somehow The longest Surgery That they Had ever Done At that Point At that Hospital And Pastor Was there And Grandpa Said I saw Satan While I Was in Surgery And

[00:37:31] Pastor Asked Him You know He Invited Him And Pastor Told Me On Monday He Said James You Tell Your Kids They're Going To See Their Great Grandfather In Heaven Because Of What God Has Done And He Said James I'll See You Again There Too And He Had My Hand In My Father's Hand And We Prayed He Prayed For Us

[00:38:00] In That Moment And He Looked At Me Talking About Was When The SBLC And The Southern Baptist Convention Came After Him For Not Expelling Me As A Member And I Lump In My Throat As I Do Now And I Said Pastor I'm So Sorry About All That

[00:38:31] And He Said Don't Be I'm Not If There Had Been More Men Like That We Wouldn't Have Lost The West A Man Who Would Do The Right Thing No Matter The Personal Cost And I've Tried To The Best Of My Ability To Always Live By The Examples That Were Set Throughout My Life That's How I Was Raised These Are The Examples That Have Been Impressed Upon Me

[00:39:01] Never Betray A Brother But I Never Want Anyone I Love To Suffer Because Of Me And Going To Church Was Certainly One Of The Foundational Pillars Of My Life But It Was His Entire Existence In That Way It Was His Live Live We'll Talk A Little Bit More About That I Know

[00:39:31] We're Coming Up On Another Break We'll Take The Break I Need To Take The Break There Are Unsung Heroes Out There Men You Never Knew Or Perhaps You Only Knew Through A Few Stories Or Meeting Them And Passing At A Conference Or Hearing On The Radio A Couple Of Times There Are Men Who Who Spent Their Entire Life Setting An Example And We Need To Be Thankful For Them And We Need To Remember Them And That's Why I'm Doing This Hour Right

[00:40:01] Now We Have To Go On We Have To Continue To Fight We Have To Continue To Engage In The Struggle And We Will Even Tonight But This First Hour Tonight I Had To Do This It Was Very Important For Me To Do This And I Hope That It's Reaching You In Some Way That Can Be Of Value And I Do Have Something Else I Want To Say After This Next Break But We'll Talk About That Stand

[00:40:31] That He Addressed On Monday Even In These Final Days We'll Be Right Back Say Do Hey

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[00:46:17] Edwards said, I know James Edwards. I've known James my whole life. What has he done? And they said, well, the Southern Poverty, this is the leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention. Well, the Southern Poverty Law Center says, pastor says, no, no, I don't want to hear what they said. What did James say that you have a concern with? Well, CNN said, no, what did James say? They said, well, we believe that he's guilty of the sin of racism and you're going to need to take action. I said, what action should I take?

[00:46:46] They said, we need you to expel him from your membership. And he said, I don't think I can do that. I'm not going to do that. They said, well, then we'll have to consider disfellowshipping your entire congregation. So pastor called me and he told me what had happened. And I said, pastor, you call them back, call them back. I tell them you'll do it. And he said, I'm not going to do it. And I said, I'm asking you to do it. And he said, you don't understand. I can't do it.

[00:47:14] He said, I'm not doing it because I love you. He said, I love you, James. And you know how dear your family is. But that's not why I'm doing this. I'm doing it because it's the right thing to do. We wouldn't have lost the West if we had more men like that. And I look back on his life's work as a pastor, all the families he counseled, all the people in heaven today and those who are still going to be there one day as a result of God's work through him. His office was always open.

[00:47:44] His home was always open or he'd come to yours. The sermons on Sunday mornings for 35 years, the positive way he impacted so many lives along the way. Yet if you search his name, if you Google David Rogers, Lighthouse Baptist Church, the one return you're going to get is this filth, this smut smear from these hate merchants at the Southern, the discredited Southern Poverty Law Center. And I hate that because he was so good. And it's partly because of that, that I wanted to give this testimony tonight.

[00:48:17] My life will never be as good again for the rest of my life. There will be this void that just cannot be filled. And I do feel like a spiritual orphan now. And he was a good shepherd. And you can't relate because you didn't know him as I did. You couldn't have, you didn't have these experiences. You didn't grow up with this person for the time you were barely old enough to walk. You can't shortcut your way through a lifelong friendship that started when you were a toddler. You can't continue through every season and change of life. I wish you could have known him that way.

[00:48:46] But I hope that there's someone in your life or someone who has been in your life like that. I'll never belong to another church. I wouldn't want to. There'll never be another experience that can compare. There's so many churches are so weak today. Not long after that whole ordeal, he had a stroke and he retired. And he was getting closer to retirement by then anyway.

[00:49:10] But, and he did regain a lot of the things that the stroke impacted, but not everything. And he retired and the church disassembled rather than bringing in another pastor. They went to other congregations. But in the near decade since then, we, we still stayed in very, very close contact meals, doctor's appointments. I mean, I took him to get his eyes, you know, the LASIK surgery and other procedures.

[00:49:38] And then last summer, he called me last summer. I was on a family vacation. He called me. And I was at the table eating dinner with my wife and kids. I said, oh, pastor's calling. And he said, James, I got a favor to ask. I said, pastor, anything for you? He said, well, you may, you may regret saying that when I tell you what the favor is. I said, no, there's nothing you could possibly ask. He said, well, my wife, you know, has a trip with her family every year that she takes. And I'm not in any condition to travel anymore.

[00:50:08] And this was, this was last summer. He said, but I do need help at home. Would you mind coming and staying with me for three days? And of course, and my dad and I went over there and we stayed for three days. And we talked about just about every memory I've ever had in life. And it was just, just a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful three days. That was last summer. But we have unsung heroes out there.

[00:50:37] So please do remember the name David Rogers. As I said before, if I've ever meant anything to, you know, it's because of the men who shaped my life throughout the course of it. And also, one other thing I want to say to you tonight is spend time with your loved ones while you can. Return a call. I'm not always the best at that. If somebody's called you, call them back.

[00:51:06] If somebody's on your heart, go see them. Spend as much time with them as you can. It'll never be enough. And I told this to pastor last week. I said, I'm at home. My wife is a stay-at-home mom. We homeschool. We're together all day, every day. And I feel like, you know, as my kids get older now, have a 16-year-old daughter, an 11-year-old son, a five-year-old daughter. I said, even now, I feel it slipping away. It's going by too fast.

[00:51:35] And even though we're home together all day, every day, it doesn't feel like enough time. It'll never be enough time. But whoever it is, spend the time with them. Spend the time with them. And then try to live your life in a way that will inspire memory when you're gone. Leave a legacy and make it mean something.

[00:51:56] Make it mean more than how well you could fit into the momentary fashions of society. You know, how well you could conform to what everybody else is saying right now. I don't ever want anybody to be put out. I don't want anybody to lose a job or to pay a price. But you just don't get anywhere without sacrifice. And there's glory in that struggle.

[00:52:24] And it's easy to say that, but it's much, much harder when somebody you love suffers because of you. But if we are ever going, if we are ever going to survive, people are going to have to do that. And he set an example like that, like I've never seen before and that I may never see again.

[00:52:47] Let that, if you didn't know him, just let that one memory help guide you when you're in a similar situation. It's easy to say you would do it until you get the call or the knock comes out the door. Don't be foolhardy. Don't do things to bring harm to yourself. But if it's right, try to take the right stand. And that's what I'll try to do. And that's what I've tried to do.

[00:53:17] And I'll try to do it more and better going forward. And so that's the first hour. And I wanted to tie it into my trip and my travels because that call did come in while I was in Washington. And it did play a role in me cutting the trip short and unfortunately having to miss some people that I'd planned to see on the way back. But this is life.

[00:53:40] And as you get older and I'm 46 now, I'm not 24 like I was when I started the radio show. I'm not 22 like I was when I ran for the state legislature. I'm not 20 like I was when I was working for Pat. I'm 46. Not a little boy. As you get older, more people that you knew in life are going to go. Spend time with them while you can. Honor their memory for the rest of your life.

[00:54:07] We'll be back with Warren Bailock.